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Title: Is Two Eleven more influential than it's given credit for?
Post by: TogetherAgain on January 05, 2020, 10:54:46 AM
Iono about you gorls, but when I listen to Two Eleven in 2020, I'm struck by how ahead of its time it is.

I can hear its influence throughout the current landscape of R&B and Hip-Hop - trap, minimalist alternative R&B, and dark pop, to name a few.

Do ya'll hear it too?

:gorlonfire:

Is the album being overlooked on Best of the Decade lists?

Title: Re: Is Two Eleven more influential than it's given credit for?
Post by: Rxxf on January 05, 2020, 10:56:37 AM
The only fucking album we got from Brandy last decade.
SMH.
Title: Re: Is Two Eleven more influential than it's given credit for?
Post by: 'ology on January 05, 2020, 11:01:58 AM
Yea I feel that it doesn't get the love it deserves it's a really good cohesive album. But it lacks a certain Brandy aspect about it. 
Title: Re: Is Two Eleven more influential than it's given credit for?
Post by: Gilgamesh. on January 05, 2020, 11:04:54 AM
ummm....

I don't agree, it was a good album though.
Title: Re: Is Two Eleven more influential than it's given credit for?
Post by: Ma Lo on January 05, 2020, 11:06:07 AM
I loved the album at first listen 
Title: Re: Is Two Eleven more influential than it's given credit for?
Post by: SouravMay on January 05, 2020, 11:08:21 AM
No it was a bunch of leftovers and sub-par productions by PICO...

The promises of a drake collab weren't kept, barely Brandy's Songwriting. No live instrumentation. It was an album of the season I guess with barely a direction.

Slower is iconic though
Title: Re: Is Two Eleven more influential than it's given credit for?
Post by: HUGO on January 05, 2020, 11:13:19 AM
Quote from: Niggahontas on January 05, 2020, 11:12:10 AM
It was Ghan's mixtape alber.

A bunch of hot songs thrown together for a quick microwave tea ...

Nowhere near the creativity of GODfrodisiac and was missing the cohesiveness of Snoreman
!!!!

All Ghana album have a feel. Two Eleven mainly lacks that. It's cute tho
Title: Re: Is Two Eleven more influential than it's given credit for?
Post by: HUGO on January 05, 2020, 11:14:15 AM
Quote from: Rxxf on January 05, 2020, 10:56:37 AM
The only fucking album we got from Brandy last decade.
SMH.
Oh wow
How dark
This is some bullshit
Title: Re: Is Two Eleven more influential than it's given credit for?
Post by: Ma Lo on January 05, 2020, 11:18:19 AM
If the new music ever comes I hope she breaks that 2nd single curse.. with how long she's been gone she needs to drop 15 singles and videos at once tbh 
Title: Re: Is Two Eleven more influential than it's given credit for?
Post by: SouravMay on January 05, 2020, 11:18:45 AM
Wasn't Without You for Alicia and NSATL for Kelly Rowland and then SOB just a frank ocean leak that was covered smh

Title: Re: Is Two Eleven more influential than it's given credit for?
Post by: b7 on January 05, 2020, 11:18:56 AM
No

Maybe songs like the Mike Will joint, which he had never done before her but no

I think her next album will be influential in a lot of ways and stand the test of time. She isn't doing songs that were once demos for every other artist and she's writing this time

No guarantee, but i can see the next album being something that people look too. TwoEleven was just a good collection of songs IMO

Nothing wrong with that but i hold brandy to a higher standard and i don't think she held herself to one in that regard at the time.
Title: Re: Is Two Eleven more influential than it's given credit for?
Post by: reekz on January 05, 2020, 11:21:26 AM
Quote from: Niggahontas on January 05, 2020, 11:12:10 AM
It was Ghan's mixtape alber.

A bunch of hot songs thrown together for a quick microwave tea ...

Nowhere near the creativity of GODfrodisiac and was missing the cohesiveness of Snoreman

Yea. When I go back on that album, it just seem dated like Human. Human is just boring now. I can't even get into Piano Man and I freaking loved that song at the time.
Title: Re: Is Two Eleven more influential than it's given credit for?
Post by: HUGO on January 05, 2020, 11:22:28 AM
Quote from: 1RIG on January 05, 2020, 11:18:56 AM

No guarantee, but i can see the next album being something that people look too. TwoEleven was just a good collection of songs IMO

Nothing wrong with that but i hold brandy to a higher standard and i don't think she held herself to one in that regard at the time.

Beautifully stated!!!
Title: Re: Is Two Eleven more influential than it's given credit for?
Post by: Ma Lo on January 05, 2020, 11:22:28 AM
Human  is a good winter album I think
Title: Re: Is Two Eleven more influential than it's given credit for?
Post by: SouravMay on January 05, 2020, 11:23:56 AM
Quote from: Ntwadumela on January 05, 2020, 11:22:28 AM
Human  is a good winter album I think

Yeah Human still gives me ALBUM, it has a cute flow and a proper direction.
Title: Re: Is Two Eleven more influential than it's given credit for?
Post by: Ma Lo on January 05, 2020, 11:24:18 AM
True is so beautiful that it honestly saves the whole album for me. Also the title track.
Title: Re: Is Two Eleven more influential than it's given credit for?
Post by: HUGO on January 05, 2020, 11:27:51 AM
Human still gives me Ghan album tho. Like all her albums have this feel and I can still remember how I felt first time listening to them and hearing each song. Two Eleven lacks that
Title: Re: Is Two Eleven more influential than it's given credit for?
Post by: Cowgirl on January 05, 2020, 11:29:14 AM
The album fucking sucked.
Title: Re: Is Two Eleven more influential than it's given credit for?
Post by: Good Morning Gorgeous on January 05, 2020, 11:29:46 AM
It definitely had some gems on it, but no additional credit is needed for that album.

Hardly Breathing is still a favorite of mine.
Title: Re: Is Two Eleven more influential than it's given credit for?
Post by: Good Morning Gorgeous on January 05, 2020, 11:33:01 AM
See, this is why I LOVE Brandy stans. You guys can truly be honest and unbiased regarding her work. Unfortunately, the same can't be said for the stans of other artists.
Title: Re: Is Two Eleven more influential than it's given credit for?
Post by: RAY7 on January 05, 2020, 11:37:25 AM
Great album, I'm not hearing any influence but
Slower
Without You
Wish Your Love Away
Hardly Breathing 
Do You Know
Put It Down
Scared of Beautiful 
So Sick
No Such Thing
Music

I genuinely like all those songs and she sang her face off
top 3 Brandy album for me 
Title: Re: Is Two Eleven more influential than it's given credit for?
Post by: iheart4everbrandy on January 05, 2020, 11:44:52 AM
211 was an okay album... it was no Never Say Never, Full Moon or Afrodisiac... to me, those are influential  albums. Other artists cite these albums all the time.
Title: Re: Is Two Eleven more influential than it's given credit for?
Post by: Buy The Stars✨ on January 05, 2020, 11:52:35 AM
It def has a different sound.  There are a few artists who did create similar sounds with their albums 
Title: Re: Is Two Eleven more influential than it's given credit for?
Post by: Naomi Hit Me on January 05, 2020, 11:59:02 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh. on January 05, 2020, 11:04:54 AM
ummm....

I don't agree, it was a good album though.
Title: Re: Is Two Eleven more influential than it's given credit for?
Post by: Harlem on January 05, 2020, 12:05:50 PM
Bran could've def ran the Mike Will sound b/c that was the only thing she was ahead of at that time but we all know DYK didn't get properly release

But I think this album/era was meant to do is get her "poppin" again to the general public... she accomplished it a little b/c it was good to hear her on the radio again, people sing her songs and praise her looks/performances. It was all positive for her until that engagement was over. I'm only disappointed that she wasn't able to follow through after the fact
Title: Re: Is Two Eleven more influential than it's given credit for?
Post by: Justaway_ on January 05, 2020, 01:45:13 PM
Some of the songs were great/amazing, but how was it influential though? Y'all just sayin' anything :dead:

Bran chased R&B trends like never before. She and the label wanted commercial success first and foremost with the album. All the Bangladesh tracks sound like Talk That Talk rejects, Scared of Beautiful is really beautiful but also very Frank Ocean, Rico Love's tracks deserve no fuckin comment :dead: like others said, stuff like Slower and DYK were actually unique and somewhat experimental, but that's about it. Bran's vocals have always been studied by literally everyone, but i'm sure they go to her magnum opus Afrodisiac or NSN/Full Moon for vocal inspiration instead.
Title: Re: Is Two Eleven more influential than it's given credit for?
Post by: Justaway_ on January 05, 2020, 01:49:35 PM
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Title: Re: Is Two Eleven more influential than it's given credit for?
Post by: Kaeli. on January 05, 2020, 01:50:18 PM
I wouldn't call it influential because ain't nobody listing it as an influence, but it could be released today and still be cute 
Title: Re: Is Two Eleven more influential than it's given credit for?
Post by: jtwoeleven on January 05, 2020, 01:51:41 PM
It's a good album, but like others have touched on, it is missing a certain Brandy-esque cohesiveness that previous albums had.
Title: Re: Is Two Eleven more influential than it's given credit for?
Post by: Harlem on January 05, 2020, 01:56:04 PM
It was a good era for her growth though during that time, that was way more influential to me than the music... I just loved seeing her feeling herself again and how well received it was
Title: Re: Is Two Eleven more influential than it's given credit for?
Post by: FRANCE on January 05, 2020, 02:12:18 PM
I pretty much echo the same sentiments as everyone. Album was good overall, but you could tell that Brandy at that time was still seeking commercial success and it showed in the quality of the album and the lack of direction. The only song that was personal was Wildest Dreams, but overall, just good songs thrown together. 

The album lacked so much depth that the intro and the outro was the same boring instrumental.
Title: Re: Is Two Eleven more influential than it's given credit for?
Post by: Vonc2002 on January 05, 2020, 02:18:48 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh. on January 05, 2020, 11:04:54 AM
ummm....

I don't agree, it was a good album though.
Title: Re: Is Two Eleven more influential than it's given credit for?
Post by: Harlem on January 05, 2020, 02:27:53 PM
I fuck with "Music" a lot, probably b/c it reminds of her unreleased era but just mixed/mastered
Title: Re: Is Two Eleven more influential than it's given credit for?
Post by: reekz on January 05, 2020, 02:31:28 PM
Quote from: Harlem on January 05, 2020, 02:27:53 PM
I fuck with "Music" a lot, probably b/c it reminds of her unreleased era but just mixed/mastered

Music and Can You Hear Me now are so timeless. Love those two.
Title: Re: Is Two Eleven more influential than it's given credit for?
Post by: b7 on January 05, 2020, 02:39:17 PM
I looove the other mix of Can you hear me now 

Brandy probably wanted her vocals and adlibs turned up and that's exactly what we got. Really good
Title: Re: Is Two Eleven more influential than it's given credit for?
Post by: Just Dropped In To See What Condition My Condition Was In on January 05, 2020, 03:31:13 PM
Quote from: Niggahontas on January 05, 2020, 11:12:10 AM
It was Ghan's mixtape alber.

A bunch of hot songs thrown together for a quick microwave tea ...

Nowhere near the creativity of GODfrodisiac and was missing the cohesiveness of Snoreman
Human>>>>>>>>>>Any Toni Album after Libra.
Title: Re: Is Two Eleven more influential than it's given credit for?
Post by: Cowgirl on January 05, 2020, 03:40:10 PM
Can we discuss Human again? I feel bad for shading ha for so many years.

:stressed:
Title: Re: Is Two Eleven more influential than it's given credit for?
Post by: Moon on January 05, 2020, 03:43:23 PM
the album was HORRIBLE

And it all started with that horrible ass song put it down. I don't care what anyone says, the song is terrible and so was the video.

now let's get into RHD, one of if not her best 1st single mess. If she had been in a different label situation at the time.. omg
Title: Re: Is Two Eleven more influential than it's given credit for?
Post by: Cowgirl on January 05, 2020, 03:46:25 PM
Quote from: afromoondiac on January 05, 2020, 03:43:23 PM
now let's get into RHD, one of if not her best 1st single mess. If she had been in a different label situation at the time.. omg
LET'S!!!
Title: Re: Is Two Eleven more influential than it's given credit for?
Post by: Harlem on January 05, 2020, 04:12:59 PM
Quote from: 1RIG on January 05, 2020, 02:39:17 PM
I looove the other mix of Can you hear me now

Brandy probably wanted her vocals and adlibs turned up and that's exactly what we got. Really good

What's other mix, king?! Link me
:stressed:
Title: Re: Is Two Eleven more influential than it's given credit for?
Post by: Good Morning Gorgeous on January 05, 2020, 04:31:34 PM
Quote from: TinaSnow on January 05, 2020, 03:40:10 PM
Can we discuss Human again? I feel bad for shading ha for so many years.

:stressed:

That is THE album I hate the most from Brandy.
Title: Re: Is Two Eleven more influential than it's given credit for?
Post by: Annie on January 05, 2020, 04:37:26 PM
Quote from: LF on January 05, 2020, 02:12:18 PM
I pretty much echo the same sentiments as everyone. Album was good overall, but you could tell that Brandy at that time was still seeking commercial success and it showed in the quality of the album and the lack of direction. The only song that was personal was Wildest Dreams, but overall, just good songs thrown together.

The album lacked so much depth that the intro and the outro was the same boring instrumental.

!!!!

I still play Wildest dreams, So sick and slower. Wish your love away sometimes

Songs like Put it down and let me go were cute but not timeless. It just didn't age well. Mixtape vibes. I'm still mad at the intro and outro.
Title: Re: Is Two Eleven more influential than it's given credit for?
Post by: Annie on January 05, 2020, 04:40:10 PM
Quote from: mylogistics on January 05, 2020, 04:31:34 PM
Quote from: TinaSnow on January 05, 2020, 03:40:10 PM
Can we discuss Human again? I feel bad for shading ha for so many years.

:stressed:

That is THE album I hate the most from Brandy.
I was just gonna say
Can we discuss Afro or FM? NSN
Can't save the thread with Human  :everythingok:
Title: Re: Is Two Eleven more influential than it's given credit for?
Post by: AfroJisiac on January 06, 2020, 11:58:33 AM
Quote from: Ntwadumela on January 05, 2020, 11:18:19 AM
If the new music ever comes I hope she breaks that 2nd single curse.. with how long she's been gone she needs to drop 15 singles and videos at once tbh
too unsure about her choices for that.
she let people make her change her mind all the time so one day it's that song as the 2nd single and the next day it's "oh that other song will be the 2nd single"
i dont see how u can have ur singles lined up (at least the 3 1st ones) and be sure about them.. be ready and release them without blinkin'...

look.. when someone like Beyonce is releasin' her album she already KNOWS which songs are gonna be single (when it's not the whole album lol)...she knows where she's goin' and what to do with that album...

Brandy coulda been at that point in her career where she sould be sure of her songs choices and release wtf she wants withouth constantly 2nd guessing everything.
Dont get me wrong... 2nd-guessing things makes u move forward and not make certain mistakes but always 2nd guessing things makes u go nowhere.. and sometimes i feel likethat's the case with brandy music wise...hell i wouldn't be surprised to see her scrap all the work she did with DJ Camper for another route...
Title: Re: Is Two Eleven more influential than it's given credit for?
Post by: Young on January 07, 2020, 04:27:43 AM
Quote from: 'ology on January 05, 2020, 11:01:58 AM
Yea I feel that it doesn't get the love it deserves it's a really good cohesive album. But it lacks a certain Brandy aspect about it.
Title: Re: Is Two Eleven more influential than it's given credit for?
Post by: Young on January 07, 2020, 04:29:18 AM
Quote from: Hugo on January 05, 2020, 11:22:28 AM
Quote from: 1RIG on January 05, 2020, 11:18:56 AM

No guarantee, but i can see the next album being something that people look too. TwoEleven was just a good collection of songs IMO

Nothing wrong with that but i hold brandy to a higher standard and i don't think she held herself to one in that regard at the time.

Beautifully stated!!!
Title: Re: Is Two Eleven more influential than it's given credit for?
Post by: Young on January 07, 2020, 04:31:02 AM
Quote from: 89 on January 05, 2020, 11:37:25 AM
Great album, I'm not hearing any influence but
Slower
Without You
Wish Your Love Away
Hardly Breathing
Do You Know
Put It Down
Scared of Beautiful
So Sick
No Such Thing
Music

I genuinely like all those songs and she sang her face off
top 3 Brandy album for me

She really did what she needed w/that album

I mean ; Put It Down was a comeback tea for her
Title: Re: Is Two Eleven more influential than it's given credit for?
Post by: AfroJisiac on January 07, 2020, 08:59:52 AM
Dorian,  Mahniggah is so pretty in your siggy !!
Title: Re: Is Two Eleven more influential than it's given credit for?
Post by: lovechild on January 11, 2020, 07:23:08 AM
I don't think so . I honestly don't even think Brandy was inspired making the album . She even said so herself that she didn't believe in it fully . So why would the masses? It's cute but it isn't iconic and timeless like her first 4 albums . I don't even listen to 211 like that and If I do it's mostly for Music , so sick or do you know.  I need BRANDY to remember who she is and truly make another masterpiece the girls will study for the next 20 years .

yeah the into and outro for 211... are you kidding me???? Like how did she let that fly? 
Title: Re: Is Two Eleven more influential than it's given credit for?
Post by: Aalumeci. on January 16, 2020, 04:45:21 PM
No
Title: Re: Is Two Eleven more influential than it's given credit for?
Post by: Aalumeci. on January 16, 2020, 04:45:51 PM
Quote from: lovechild on January 11, 2020, 07:23:08 AM
I don't think so . I honestly don't even think Brandy was inspired making the album . She even said so herself that she didn't believe in it fully . So why would the masses? It's cute but it isn't iconic and timeless like her first 4 albums . I don't even listen to 211 like that and If I do it's mostly for Music , so sick or do you know.  I need BRANDY to remember who she is and truly make another masterpiece the girls will study for the next 20 years .

yeah the into and outro for 211... are you kidding me???? Like how did she let that fly?
Title: Re: Is Two Eleven more influential than it's given credit for?
Post by: Hotfuzz07 on April 21, 2020, 06:46:16 PM
Quote from: Ntwadumela on January 05, 2020, 11:18:19 AM
If the new music ever comes I hope she breaks that 2nd single curse.. with how long she's been gone she needs to drop 15 singles and videos at once tbh

This is crazy ! So many missed opportunities since Full Moon (nothing could have saved Human though imo).

I wish she picked at least :

Full Moon : "When You Touch Me" or even "Nothing" (she could have used the Usher formula with a slow jam single as the 2nd single). Followed by "Full Moon" as the third single. Maybe "Like this" as the final single for Urban AC but not sure about this one (it's a personal favorite).

Afrodisiac : "I Tried" as the first single (and "Where You Wanna Be" for Urban radios)

Two Eleven : "DYKWYH" (second single), then "Wish Your Love Away" or "Slower". Both "DYKWYH" and "IWYLA" got decent airplay during the album release, that's frustrating they didn't pick one of these two tracks.
I love "Wildest Dreams", although I didn't feel it was radio-friendly. I love the throwback vibe during the chorus (very MJB).

Title: Re: Is Two Eleven more influential than it's given credit for?
Post by: The definition on April 22, 2020, 01:58:30 PM
Brandy blamed Darkchild for the failure of Human because of her low self esteem she went on to produce an album 2/11 with songs meant to make her popular and relevant again in the mainstream, instead of making music for her fans. If Brandy would have swallowed her pride after human and gone back to the studio and created songs with same creativity as her previous album then she could have easily made 2 masterpiece albums by now. The direction she took with 2/11 was a mistake.

Title: Re: Is Two Eleven more influential than it's given credit for?
Post by: Afrodisiac15 on May 01, 2020, 01:10:00 PM
Two Eleven does lack that Brandy album feel , But some how critics rated it a 77 naming it Brandy's " Most critically acclaimed album to date" beating Afrodisiac at 73
Title: Re: Is Two Eleven more influential than it's given credit for?
Post by: DraeDrizzl3 on May 01, 2020, 01:21:27 PM
Yall for real think Human is better than Two Eleven?
:thatssowendy:
Title: Re: Is Two Eleven more influential than it's given credit for?
Post by: RAY7 on May 01, 2020, 01:24:20 PM
that boring mess
Title: Re: Is Two Eleven more influential than it's given credit for?
Post by: wizzy on May 01, 2020, 01:26:49 PM
LOVED Two Eleven
Title: Re: Is Two Eleven more influential than it's given credit for?
Post by: wizzy on May 01, 2020, 01:27:29 PM
Quote from: DraeDrizzl3 on May 01, 2020, 01:21:27 PM
Yall for real think Human is better than Two Eleven?
:thatssowendy:
no
:disgusted:
Title: Re: Is Two Eleven more influential than it's given credit for?
Post by: DraeDrizzl3 on May 01, 2020, 01:30:36 PM
Quote from: Lil Uni Vert on May 01, 2020, 01:27:29 PM
Quote from: DraeDrizzl3 on May 01, 2020, 01:21:27 PM
Yall for real think Human is better than Two Eleven?
:thatssowendy:
no
:disgusted:
Some of these replies in here had me a bit confused :dead:

Title: Re: Is Two Eleven more influential than it's given credit for?
Post by: CREAM. on May 01, 2020, 01:31:17 PM
I'm screaming at "dark pop"

what do y'all be talking about 
Title: Re: Is Two Eleven more influential than it's given credit for?
Post by: DraeDrizzl3 on May 01, 2020, 01:32:21 PM
Quote from: CREAM. on May 01, 2020, 01:31:17 PM
I'm screaming at "dark pop"

what do y'all be talking about
AKDJFNSNSJSJAKSKSKAKKA

Human was a pop mess, through and through. It had hints of R&B in there  :dead:
Title: Re: Is Two Eleven more influential than it's given credit for?
Post by: RAY7 on May 01, 2020, 01:34:43 PM
Quote from: CREAM. on May 01, 2020, 01:31:17 PM
I'm screaming at "dark pop"

what do y'all be talking about
!!! making up genres  :dead: :dead: :dead:
Title: Re: Is Two Eleven more influential than it's given credit for?
Post by: Moon on May 01, 2020, 01:39:37 PM
Human >>>>
she sang her ass off on this album 
Title: Re: Is Two Eleven more influential than it's given credit for?
Post by: LOONA. on May 01, 2020, 01:41:17 PM
Quote from: CREAM. on May 01, 2020, 01:31:17 PM
I'm screaming at "dark pop"

what do y'all be talking about

Ghhhjjhgffggggggggggggggggggggggghg GB hhhhbnnn
Title: Re: Is Two Eleven more influential than it's given credit for?
Post by: wizzy on May 01, 2020, 01:42:54 PM
Quote from: DraeDrizzl3 on May 01, 2020, 01:30:36 PM
Quote from: Lil Uni Vert on May 01, 2020, 01:27:29 PM
Quote from: DraeDrizzl3 on May 01, 2020, 01:21:27 PM
Yall for real think Human is better than Two Eleven?
:thatssowendy:
no
:disgusted:
Some of these replies in here had me a bit confused :dead:
bxbcb
I don't think B set out to change the world with Two Eleven, especially after her game changing albums went on to be replicated by other girls who achieved the commercial success FM and Afro didnt
And after that cloudy day of an album that was Human, I think she just went with something light and upbeat
a pleasant change
Title: Re: Is Two Eleven more influential than it's given credit for?
Post by: LOONA. on May 01, 2020, 01:43:18 PM
Quote from: Lil Uni Vert on May 01, 2020, 01:27:29 PM
Quote from: DraeDrizzl3 on May 01, 2020, 01:21:27 PM
Yall for real think Human is better than Two Eleven?
:thatssowendy:
no
:disgusted:
Title: Re: Is Two Eleven more influential than it's given credit for?
Post by: Eh... on May 01, 2020, 01:50:50 PM
Quote from: DraeDrizzl3 on May 01, 2020, 01:30:36 PM
Quote from: Lil Uni Vert on May 01, 2020, 01:27:29 PM
Quote from: DraeDrizzl3 on May 01, 2020, 01:21:27 PM
Yall for real think Human is better than Two Eleven?
:thatssowendy:
no
:disgusted:
Some of these replies in here had me a bit confused :dead:

I think they are just as confused as you... They are saying they didn't like 2/11 but Human is boring but better... What does it all mean? Lol
Title: Re: Is Two Eleven more influential than it's given credit for?
Post by: Kaeli. on May 01, 2020, 02:21:30 PM
Human is a better ALBUM than Two

tbh

Two eleven was just a bunch of good songs compiled together. & has 2 of the worst Brandy songs I've ever had the displeasure of listening to 
Title: Re: Is Two Eleven more influential than it's given credit for?
Post by: Le Champ on May 01, 2020, 02:33:53 PM
Human is one of her best albums vocally, but most of the songs were not Brandy songs.
I still listen to some mess from Two
Title: Re: Is Two Eleven more influential than it's given credit for?
Post by: BRockaBaby on May 01, 2020, 02:35:08 PM
Quote from: 'ology on January 05, 2020, 11:01:58 AM
Yea I feel that it doesn't get the love it deserves it's a really good cohesive album. But it lacks a certain Brandy aspect about it.
Title: Re: Is Two Eleven more influential than it's given credit for?
Post by: CREAM. on May 01, 2020, 02:36:26 PM
I like about 3 songs on Human 

can probably count on two hands how many times I've listened to that album

not really a good representation of her as an artist and the songs are too poppy for my taste 
Title: Re: Is Two Eleven more influential than it's given credit for?
Post by: wizzy on May 01, 2020, 02:37:58 PM
Quote from: CREAM. on May 01, 2020, 02:36:26 PM
I like about 3 songs on Human

can probably count on two hands how many times I've listened to that album

not really a good representation of her as an artist and the songs are too poppy for my taste
Title: Re: Is Two Eleven more influential than it's given credit for?
Post by: Le Champ on May 01, 2020, 02:40:15 PM
Quote from: CREAM. on May 01, 2020, 02:36:26 PM
I like about 3 songs on Human

can probably count on two hands how many times I've listened to that album

not really a good representation of her as an artist and the songs are too poppy for my taste

wow he is preaching in here
Title: Re: Is Two Eleven more influential than it's given credit for?
Post by: Buy The Stars✨ on May 01, 2020, 03:36:42 PM
Quote from: CREAM. on May 01, 2020, 02:36:26 PM
I like about 3 songs on Human

can probably count on two hands how many times I've listened to that album

not really a good representation of her as an artist and the songs are too poppy for my taste

really? that whole album slays me .. i love pop brandy it proves she can do any genre of music and slay it
Title: Re: Is Two Eleven more influential than it's given credit for?
Post by: Demetri La Robyn 🤴🏾 on May 01, 2020, 04:54:17 PM
What's funny about this whole thread it exemplifies just  how versatile brandy's music is. Her audience represents that versatility too. You all like different types of music and sounds and brandy has dabbled in it all.  The true tea  is that human and two eleven are pretty evenly matched imho, just two different sounds. Who are we to say which album iis more boring than the other it's all subjective anyway. I know plenty of people who think full moon and afrodisiac(myself included) are boring. 
Title: Re: Is Two Eleven more influential than it's given credit for?
Post by: HUGO on May 02, 2020, 02:50:57 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh. on January 05, 2020, 11:04:54 AM
ummm....

I don't agree, it was a good album though.
Title: Re: Is Two Eleven more influential than it's given credit for?
Post by: BigDawg on May 02, 2020, 02:56:21 PM
You can tell that she didn't connect with 2/11
Title: Re: Is Two Eleven more influential than it's given credit for?
Post by: demitri.petty on May 03, 2020, 01:24:00 PM
I love Two Eleven because vocally she out sang Human!!

the runs, harmonies, and vocal DEPTH of 2/11 >>>>>>>
Title: Re: Is Two Eleven more influential than it's given credit for?
Post by: Just Dropped In To See What Condition My Condition Was In on May 03, 2020, 01:26:01 PM
Quote from: negro. indian. cocktail. 🍷 on January 05, 2020, 11:12:10 AM
It was Ghan's mixtape alber.

A bunch of hot songs thrown together for a quick microwave tea ...

Nowhere near the creativity of GODfrodisiac and was missing the cohesiveness of Snoreman
Not too much on Human faggot. :uhh: Human is a much better album than Two Eleven.
Title: Re: Is Two Eleven more influential than it's given credit for?
Post by: Just Dropped In To See What Condition My Condition Was In on May 03, 2020, 01:26:23 PM
Quote from: demitri.petty on May 03, 2020, 01:24:00 PM
I love Two Eleven because vocally she out sang Human!!

the runs, harmonies, and vocal DEPTH of 2/11 >>>>>>>
No.  :uhh:
Title: Re: Is Two Eleven more influential than it's given credit for?
Post by: Just Dropped In To See What Condition My Condition Was In on May 03, 2020, 01:26:59 PM
Human>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Two Eleven in every single way possible.
Title: Re: Is Two Eleven more influential than it's given credit for?
Post by: Le Champ on May 03, 2020, 01:28:23 PM
Human is my least favorite Brandy album, but vocally, it's unmatched lol
Title: Re: Is Two Eleven more influential than it's given credit for?
Post by: Bigmacthawoppa on May 03, 2020, 01:29:24 PM
Quote from: Fuck it! on May 03, 2020, 01:26:59 PM
Human>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Two Eleven in every single way possible.

!!!!

Yeah, 2/11 is by far her worst album. It just feels like a bunch of songs thrown together to sound current. Human may have been too AC/poppy but it still felt like more of a Brandy album, with the effort put into it. Anyone could have released 2/11.
Title: Re: Is Two Eleven more influential than it's given credit for?
Post by: Seashell on May 03, 2020, 02:01:57 PM
it's a good album but I can't think of any records that it influenced.
Title: Re: Is Two Eleven more influential than it's given credit for?
Post by: demitri.petty on May 03, 2020, 02:05:58 PM
Quote from: Bigmacthawoppa on May 03, 2020, 01:29:24 PM
Quote from: Fuck it! on May 03, 2020, 01:26:59 PM
Human>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Two Eleven in every single way possible.

!!!!

Yeah, 2/11 is by far her worst album. It just feels like a bunch of songs thrown together to sound current. Human may have been too AC/poppy but it still felt like more of a Brandy album, with the effort put into it. Anyone could have released 2/11.

I'm listening to 2/11 right now, I don't agree with the last part of your comment. 2/11 is still a BRANDY album. I can't think of another artist who even has the same musical ear as brandy. Like she finds hidden places to tuck harmonies and notes lol. 2/11 still has some good Brandy elements in it vocally. She MADE those songs. But I can agree that I feel like they wanted it to be a current sound of R&B at the time
Title: Re: Is Two Eleven more influential than it's given credit for?
Post by: Le Champ on May 03, 2020, 02:07:34 PM
Quote from: demitri.petty on May 03, 2020, 02:05:58 PM
Quote from: Bigmacthawoppa on May 03, 2020, 01:29:24 PM
Quote from: Fuck it! on May 03, 2020, 01:26:59 PM
Human>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Two Eleven in every single way possible.

!!!!

Yeah, 2/11 is by far her worst album. It just feels like a bunch of songs thrown together to sound current. Human may have been too AC/poppy but it still felt like more of a Brandy album, with the effort put into it. Anyone could have released 2/11.

I'm listening to 2/11 right now, I don't agree with the last part of your comment. 2/11 is still a BRANDY album. I can't think of another artist who even has the same musical ear as brandy. Like she finds hidden places to tuck harmonies and notes lol. 2/11 still has some good Brandy elements in it vocally. She MADE those songs. But I can agree that I feel like they wanted it to be a current sound of R&B at the time

Well Brandy will kill any song vocally. That'll never be an issue. I think they're saying those songs weren't really unique to her outside of a few.
Title: Re: Is Two Eleven more influential than it's given credit for?
Post by: Just Dropped In To See What Condition My Condition Was In on May 03, 2020, 02:08:51 PM
Quote from: demitri.petty on May 03, 2020, 02:05:58 PM
Quote from: Bigmacthawoppa on May 03, 2020, 01:29:24 PM
Quote from: Fuck it! on May 03, 2020, 01:26:59 PM
Human>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Two Eleven in every single way possible.

!!!!

Yeah, 2/11 is by far her worst album. It just feels like a bunch of songs thrown together to sound current. Human may have been too AC/poppy but it still felt like more of a Brandy album, with the effort put into it. Anyone could have released 2/11.

I'm listening to 2/11 right now, I don't agree with the last part of your comment. 2/11 is still a BRANDY album. I can't think of another artist who even has the same musical ear as brandy. Like she finds hidden places to tuck harmonies and notes lol. 2/11 still has some good Brandy elements in it vocally. She MADE those songs. But I can agree that I feel like they wanted it to be a current sound of R&B at the time
Two Eleven is NOT a Brandy album. That album is her worst album period.
Title: Re: Is Two Eleven more influential than it's given credit for?
Post by: ZuZu on May 03, 2020, 10:16:55 PM
no.
Title: Re: Is Two Eleven more influential than it's given credit for?
Post by: Bigmacthawoppa on May 03, 2020, 10:56:48 PM
Quote from: ZuZu on May 03, 2020, 10:16:55 PM
no.

:plzstop:
Title: Re: Is Two Eleven more influential than it's given credit for?
Post by: reekz on May 03, 2020, 11:03:29 PM
2/11 was the greatest album of 2012 in my opinion. I listen to it now and bish..I just don't know what happened.

:uhh:

like I pass damn near every song.
Title: Re: Is Two Eleven more influential than it's given credit for?
Post by: Le Champ on May 03, 2020, 11:07:21 PM
Quote from: trapMysoulagain on May 03, 2020, 11:03:29 PM
2/11 was the greatest album of 2012 in my opinion. I listen to it now and bish..I just don't know what happened.

:uhh:

like I pass damn near every song.
fsdlkfnsdf

I still use half of the album, but the only songs I really go back to are Without You, DYK and WYLA.
Title: Re: Is Two Eleven more influential than it's given credit for?
Post by: reekz on May 03, 2020, 11:16:20 PM
Quote from: Lee on May 03, 2020, 11:07:21 PM
Quote from: trapMysoulagain on May 03, 2020, 11:03:29 PM
2/11 was the greatest album of 2012 in my opinion. I listen to it now and bish..I just don't know what happened.

:uhh:

like I pass damn near every song.
fsdlkfnsdf

I still use half of the album, but the only songs I really go back to are Without You, DYK and WYLA.

Only song I revisit is Slower, PID, Paint, Music, what u need
Title: Re: Is Two Eleven more influential than it's given credit for?
Post by: Harlem on May 04, 2020, 12:31:41 AM
Wooooo, DYK and Slower>>>>>>>>>>

And the BET Honors version of Without You>>>>>>>

Also, Music doesn't get enough praise but that was a fuckin gem
Title: Re: Is Two Eleven more influential than it's given credit for?
Post by: wizzy on May 04, 2020, 12:35:41 AM
Slower, Without You, Do You Know, HB, Scared, Music, What U Need, Put It Down, So Sick
:flamebroiled:
Title: Re: Is Two Eleven more influential than it's given credit for?
Post by: DraeDrizzl3 on May 04, 2020, 02:47:05 AM
Quote from: Lee on May 03, 2020, 01:28:23 PM
Human is my least favorite Brandy album, but vocally, it's unmatched lol
Title: Re: Is Two Eleven more influential than it's given credit for?
Post by: DraeDrizzl3 on May 04, 2020, 02:49:06 AM
Honestly, Two Eleven wasn't ground breaking but it was fire. Only song I skip, which has always been a skip imo, is No Such Thing as Too Late. 
Title: Re: Is Two Eleven more influential than it's given credit for?
Post by: Le Champ on May 04, 2020, 02:50:57 AM
Quote from: DraeDrizzl3 on May 04, 2020, 02:49:06 AM
Honestly, Two Eleven wasn't ground breaking but it was fire. Only song I skip, which has always been a skip imo, is No Such Thing as Too Late.

whew yea I kinda always SKIPPED that song  :dead:
I hate most things by Rico Love...basic ass
Title: Re: Is Two Eleven more influential than it's given credit for?
Post by: pop on May 04, 2020, 09:25:41 AM
She made the right album at the right time ... it's was one of the best album of 2012,, she couldn't make no creative album that would've been to risky 2/11 did what it had to do to prove Bran could make a album
with a current sound
Title: Re: Is Two Eleven more influential than it's given credit for?
Post by: BrandyFromTheFuture on May 04, 2020, 01:18:56 PM
My favorite 2/11 song is Wildest Dreams and that is a modern day Brandy classic. Fight me!
Title: Re: Is Two Eleven more influential than it's given credit for?
Post by: Harlem on May 04, 2020, 01:33:26 PM
Quote from: BrandySavedMyLife on May 04, 2020, 01:18:56 PM
My favorite 2/11 song is Wildest Dreams and that is a modern day Brandy classic. Fight me!

LMAOOOOO 😂😭

I think we all agree now, people just ain't want it as a single
Title: Re: Is Two Eleven more influential than it's given credit for?
Post by: Young on May 04, 2020, 01:38:49 PM
Quote from: AfroJisiac on January 07, 2020, 08:59:52 AM
Dorian,  Mahniggah is so pretty in your siggy !!

sssss

Wait

Where bby, that's Bran  :dead: :uhh:
Title: Re: Is Two Eleven more influential than it's given credit for?
Post by: Young on May 04, 2020, 01:39:16 PM
Whoops nvm I'm just now seeing the date ssssp
Title: Re: Is Two Eleven more influential than it's given credit for?
Post by: Bish on May 04, 2020, 02:11:59 PM
Quote from: trapMysoulagain on May 03, 2020, 11:03:29 PM
2/11 was the greatest album of 2012 in my opinion. I listen to it now and bish..I just don't know what happened.

:uhh:

like I pass damn near every song.
:kii:

There were no bad songs but nothing that really sticks with you or makes you want to revisit often.

WITHOUT YOU was the standout when the album came out but I wore it out that first week. But the rare times I go back to listen to it (which may be only a couple times in the past year) I really live for it.

The songs are just forgettable basically. But if I put it in I'd listen to it.

Slower
DYKWYH
PID
Without you
Hardly breathing
Wildest dreams

Dass it. It does not hold up to the rest of her catalog.
Title: Re: Is Two Eleven more influential than it's given credit for?
Post by: Seashell on May 05, 2020, 09:42:33 PM
Quote from: Fuck it! on May 03, 2020, 02:08:51 PM
Quote from: demitri.petty on May 03, 2020, 02:05:58 PM
Quote from: Bigmacthawoppa on May 03, 2020, 01:29:24 PM
Quote from: Fuck it! on May 03, 2020, 01:26:59 PM
Human>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Two Eleven in every single way possible.

!!!!

Yeah, 2/11 is by far her worst album. It just feels like a bunch of songs thrown together to sound current. Human may have been too AC/poppy but it still felt like more of a Brandy album, with the effort put into it. Anyone could have released 2/11.

I'm listening to 2/11 right now, I don't agree with the last part of your comment. 2/11 is still a BRANDY album. I can't think of another artist who even has the same musical ear as brandy. Like she finds hidden places to tuck harmonies and notes lol. 2/11 still has some good Brandy elements in it vocally. She MADE those songs. But I can agree that I feel like they wanted it to be a current sound of R&B at the time
Two Eleven is NOT a Brandy album. That album is her worst album period.


Not when Human exists  :shannonsmissing:

In reality, Brandy has no bad album but Human is her weakest.
Title: Re: Is Two Eleven more influential than it's given credit for?
Post by: Le Champ on May 05, 2020, 09:46:14 PM
Quote from: Seashell on May 05, 2020, 09:42:33 PM
Quote from: Fuck it! on May 03, 2020, 02:08:51 PM
Quote from: demitri.petty on May 03, 2020, 02:05:58 PM
Quote from: Bigmacthawoppa on May 03, 2020, 01:29:24 PM
Quote from: Fuck it! on May 03, 2020, 01:26:59 PM
Human>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Two Eleven in every single way possible.

!!!!

Yeah, 2/11 is by far her worst album. It just feels like a bunch of songs thrown together to sound current. Human may have been too AC/poppy but it still felt like more of a Brandy album, with the effort put into it. Anyone could have released 2/11.

I'm listening to 2/11 right now, I don't agree with the last part of your comment. 2/11 is still a BRANDY album. I can't think of another artist who even has the same musical ear as brandy. Like she finds hidden places to tuck harmonies and notes lol. 2/11 still has some good Brandy elements in it vocally. She MADE those songs. But I can agree that I feel like they wanted it to be a current sound of R&B at the time
Two Eleven is NOT a Brandy album. That album is her worst album period.


Not when Human exists  :shannonsmissing:

In reality, Brandy has no bad album but Human is her weakest.

Wow yea
Title: Re: Is Two Eleven more influential than it's given credit for?
Post by: Bigmacthawoppa on May 05, 2020, 09:50:06 PM
Quote from: Seashell on May 05, 2020, 09:42:33 PM
Quote from: Fuck it! on May 03, 2020, 02:08:51 PM
Quote from: demitri.petty on May 03, 2020, 02:05:58 PM
Quote from: Bigmacthawoppa on May 03, 2020, 01:29:24 PM
Quote from: Fuck it! on May 03, 2020, 01:26:59 PM
Human>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Two Eleven in every single way possible.

!!!!

Yeah, 2/11 is by far her worst album. It just feels like a bunch of songs thrown together to sound current. Human may have been too AC/poppy but it still felt like more of a Brandy album, with the effort put into it. Anyone could have released 2/11.

I'm listening to 2/11 right now, I don't agree with the last part of your comment. 2/11 is still a BRANDY album. I can't think of another artist who even has the same musical ear as brandy. Like she finds hidden places to tuck harmonies and notes lol. 2/11 still has some good Brandy elements in it vocally. She MADE those songs. But I can agree that I feel like they wanted it to be a current sound of R&B at the time
Two Eleven is NOT a Brandy album. That album is her worst album period.


Not when Human exists  :shannonsmissing:

In reality, Brandy has no bad album but Human is her weakest.

You might not like it but it's more of a Brandy album than 2/11, which was a collection of demos. Literally.
Title: Re: Is Two Eleven more influential than it's given credit for?
Post by: Bish on May 05, 2020, 10:04:03 PM
Quote from: Seashell on May 05, 2020, 09:42:33 PM
Quote from: Fuck it! on May 03, 2020, 02:08:51 PM
Quote from: demitri.petty on May 03, 2020, 02:05:58 PM
Quote from: Bigmacthawoppa on May 03, 2020, 01:29:24 PM
Quote from: Fuck it! on May 03, 2020, 01:26:59 PM
Human>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Two Eleven in every single way possible.

!!!!

Yeah, 2/11 is by far her worst album. It just feels like a bunch of songs thrown together to sound current. Human may have been too AC/poppy but it still felt like more of a Brandy album, with the effort put into it. Anyone could have released 2/11.

I'm listening to 2/11 right now, I don't agree with the last part of your comment. 2/11 is still a BRANDY album. I can't think of another artist who even has the same musical ear as brandy. Like she finds hidden places to tuck harmonies and notes lol. 2/11 still has some good Brandy elements in it vocally. She MADE those songs. But I can agree that I feel like they wanted it to be a current sound of R&B at the time
Two Eleven is NOT a Brandy album. That album is her worst album period.


Not when Human exists  :shannonsmissing:

In reality, Brandy has no bad album but Human is her weakest.
HUMAN is one of my least favorites, but at least it feels authentically Brandy and has a point of view. There's real artistry behind it whether the music is your taste or not.

Brandy tried too hard on 2/11 to distance herself from the Human sound because it was such a flop commercially. She ended up going too far to the left. The songs had Brandy-isms because she's always going to infuse her style into whatever she does, but it lacked authenticity.
Title: Re: Is Two Eleven more influential than it's given credit for?
Post by: Le Champ on May 05, 2020, 11:40:16 PM
Y'all remember when Bran LASHED Human? ,sdjknlksndfklnsd
:dead: :dead:

https://www.out.com/entertainment/music/2010/09/15/catching-brandy (https://www.out.com/entertainment/music/2010/09/15/catching-brandy)
Title: Re: Is Two Eleven more influential than it's given credit for?
Post by: jtwoeleven on May 06, 2020, 01:07:54 AM
I see Two Eleven as her most trendy album, meaning, following musical trends of that time, or a bit earlier, rather than setting them. Though she sounds great on the songs, they don't sound...how shall I say...organic to her, if that makes sense. Like, I can definitely hear other people singing select songs from that album, as if they were clearly shopped to other artists before she got them.
Title: Re: Is Two Eleven more influential than it's given credit for?
Post by: Monika on May 06, 2020, 06:36:23 AM
Quote from: afromoondiac on May 01, 2020, 01:39:37 PM
Human >>>>
she sang her ass off on this album
Brandy was goin' in! Love that album!  :feelinmyself:
Title: Re: Is Two Eleven more influential than it's given credit for?
Post by: Monika on May 06, 2020, 06:54:21 AM
Quote from: Lee on May 01, 2020, 02:33:53 PM
Human is one of her best albums vocally, but most of the songs were not Brandy songs.
I still listen to some mess from Two
can you list the songs you feel this way about? I feel like the songs on that album fit her well. The only song i feel doesn't fit her is "Piano Man". All the other songs fit her well. I guess it's because i connect the album with what Brandy has gone through.

Like, RHD, Torn Down, True, Warm It Up (lawd know knows this world needs to warm up because the heart of man is evil!)  The Definition, and more are songs that i connect to. I love this album. I connect with it more than 211. It's true. I feel more in tune with it.

The 211 album is amazing also, but i connect with Human more. All her albums shit, though! My girl knows how to make, huh?  :scrumptious:
Title: Re: Is Two Eleven more influential than it's given credit for?
Post by: Monika on May 06, 2020, 06:57:59 AM
Quote from: Troye on May 01, 2020, 03:36:42 PM
Quote from: CREAM. on May 01, 2020, 02:36:26 PM
I like about 3 songs on Human

can probably count on two hands how many times I've listened to that album

not really a good representation of her as an artist and the songs are too poppy for my taste

really? that whole album slays me .. i love pop brandy it proves she can do any genre of music and slay it
yesssss, love Pop Brandy! I really love all sides of her musically. She is just an amazing artist.
Title: Re: Is Two Eleven more influential than it's given credit for?
Post by: Monika on May 06, 2020, 07:03:01 AM
Quote from: demitri.petty on May 03, 2020, 01:24:00 PM
I love Two Eleven because vocally she out sang Human!!

the runs, harmonies, and vocal DEPTH of 2/11 >>>>>>>
yesssss, she was sanging! Omg, that way this heffa laid into " Slower" and "Wish Your Love Away!"  :plzstop: