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Title: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: BranNu on December 15, 2020, 09:43:58 PM
https://twitter.com/djordxc/status/1319746113671487488?s=12

What do y'all think?

I think it might be true

Brandy said that she was able to found her sound with Rodney Jerkins but B7 is the total opposite

As much as I love B7 it's so much different that her past album but she also grown ever since
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: Buy The Stars✨ on December 15, 2020, 09:45:28 PM
I agree with that whole tweet lol 
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: Bish on December 15, 2020, 10:15:12 PM
That entire thread is so accurate.

What I love and appreciate about B7 is the areas where Brandy's artistry shines through. The decisions she makes regarding placement is still on point.  And it's, for me, her most vulnerable album. But his production is so underwhelming.

I just cannot wrap my head over her giving him so much creative control. And it's not his age because Rodney was fucking 19 when he did NSN. He just doesn't have IT. If they did not have a personal relationship he would not have been this heavily involved, if at all.
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: FRANCE on December 15, 2020, 10:16:24 PM
B7 is my least fave Brandy album. Not bad, but not my fave. Havent listened to it in weeks. And when I do, I stop at I Am More. 

Some of the songs on the album are also sung in the key of a male's voice. I wish a few of the songs were a couple steps up. 
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: Justaway_ on December 15, 2020, 10:16:59 PM
Well that is Brandy's true problem artistically. She doesn't have a "sound": Her albums have always been shaped after the main producer's sound, not hers. Afrodisiac was drastically diferent from FM, as were Human, 2/11 and this one. Bran developed her vocals and that's her unique thing, but sonically she depends way too much on the producer, which sucks. Wish she played a bigger role in her own productions instead of only managing how many runs and adlibs she gon add.
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: Bish on December 15, 2020, 10:19:07 PM
Quote from: Justaway_ on December 15, 2020, 10:16:59 PM
Well that is Brandy's true problem artistically. She doesn't have a "sound": Her albums have always been shaped after the main producer's sound, not hers. Afrodisiac was drastically diferent from FM, as was Human, 2/11 and this one. Bran developed her vocals and that's her unique thing, but sonically she depends way too much on the producer, which sucks. Wish she played a bigger role in her own productions more than how many runs and adlibs she gon add.
OMG yes!!!
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: Bigmacthawoppa on December 15, 2020, 10:19:12 PM
Yup. And his sound isn't good or original.

I think she just feels like so many people have jacked the sound she pioneered, she felt she needed to do something completely different this time.

But the thing is it was HER sound for a reason. People try but no one can do it like she did it.

I sincerely hope the next album is with different producers who actually respect and revere her more. Camper gives me riding coattails teas.
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: ….ok. on December 15, 2020, 10:20:54 PM
Quote from: Justaway_ on December 15, 2020, 10:16:59 PM
Well that is Brandy's true problem artistically. She doesn't have a "sound": Her albums have always been shaped after the main producer's sound, not hers. Afrodisiac was drastically diferent from FM, as were Human, 2/11 and this one. Bran developed her vocals and that's her unique thing, but sonically she depends way too much on the producer, which sucks. Wish she played a bigger role in her own productions instead of only managing how many runs and adlibs she gon add.
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Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: how u let him cheat on December 15, 2020, 10:21:05 PM
Quote from: Justaway_ on December 15, 2020, 10:16:59 PM
Well that is Brandy's true problem artistically. She doesn't have a "sound": Her albums have always been shaped after the main producer's sound, not hers. Afrodisiac was drastically diferent from FM, as was Human, 2/11 and this one. Bran developed her vocals and that's her unique thing, but sonically she depends way too much on the producer, which sucks. Wish she played a bigger role in her own productions more than how many runs and adlibs she gon add.

i agree with this but u don't think its a bad thing. i think its a unique thing to be so recognizable for your voice that you can adapt and fully commit to each producer's style while still maintaining recognizability. like, NOT many are able to fckn say the damn same
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: Justaway_ on December 15, 2020, 10:23:20 PM
This is also awful because producers tend to objectify Bran as a vessel to fill with a certain sound. Then they feel like she's a property rather than an equal who's more than capable of controlling her productions and musical vision. That's why Darkchild, TC and others feel jealous whenever Bran is working with someone else.
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: Bentley. HARRIS! on December 15, 2020, 10:26:33 PM
Quote from: Justaway_ on December 15, 2020, 10:16:59 PM
Well that is Brandy's true problem artistically. She doesn't have a "sound": Her albums have always been shaped after the main producer's sound, not hers. Afrodisiac was drastically diferent from FM, as were Human, 2/11 and this one. Bran developed her vocals and that's her unique thing, but sonically she depends way too much on the producer, which sucks. Wish she played a bigger role in her own productions instead of only managing how many runs and adlibs she gon add.
wow
don't know that I've ever seen anybody pin it down like this

I really don't know why she didn't stick with Afro sound  :dead:

i mean ... it was the natural evolution of Almost Doesn't Count, Angel In Disguise, and Sittin Up IMR

that's what Timbaland realized, he brought out that sultry sound in her voice, while stacking raspy harmonies over pop/rnb guitar riffs... I mean it was such a simple formula  :plzstop:
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: RedOctober on December 15, 2020, 10:38:06 PM
Honestly I believe this is all Brandy. No shade but the album is...well...bipolar. It's all over the place. It's Brandy down. You can't tell me she wasn't in the studio stacking for days and having Camp adjust this, and modify that. I do blame Camp for not editing Bran. That's why I think Rodney was so great for Bran...he put his foot down when it was necessary.
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: GYNandTONIC on December 15, 2020, 10:52:57 PM
Brandy is a vocalist, not a producer. I see nothing w/ her adopting the sound that best showcases where she is emotionally. A painter doesn't have to make the canvas and the brushes.

The drastic difference this time is she had a choice. Camper was chosen. There wasn't a label dictating who she should build a sound with. That is independence and musically I hear that. Camper may be rough around the edges, but that might be the exact reason why Bran pulled him in.

B7 is my 2nd favorite Brandy album and it's isn't because it musically perfect. That's what I love about it. It's raw and faded

Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: FRANCE on December 15, 2020, 11:02:24 PM
One thing I will say about B7 - I expected more of a vocal lashing on the album. After 2/11, Brandy really started to be heralded as a vocal beast, more than ever before. I wasnt expecting Beggin N Pleadin gospel type vocals but I really was hoping she would really go for it. And I didnt get that. I dont think she took risks like she did on Full Moon or Human. I really just want for her to work with more than one producer. Camper did his thing on some of the songs like Rather Be, but I'm sure there are other producers waiting in line to give Brandy their best. And its a shame we didnt get to hear what could've been. 
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: RAY7 on December 15, 2020, 11:21:06 PM
Quote from: FRANCE on December 15, 2020, 11:02:24 PM
One thing I will say about B7 - I expected more of a vocal lashing on the album. After 2/11, Brandy really started to be heralded as a vocal beast, more than ever before. I wasnt expecting Beggin N Pleadin gospel type vocals but I really was hoping she would really go for it. And I didnt get that. I dont think she took risks like she did on Full Moon or Human. I really just want for her to work with more than one producer. Camper did his thing on some of the songs like Rather Be, but I'm sure there are other producers waiting in line to give Brandy their best. And its a shame we didnt get to hear what could've been.
you don't think Bran took risks vocally on B7? All those high falsetto notes that she barely did on any other album? IDK what else y'all want her to do with the voice she has, she still did plenty of runs and some belting
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: bby ddy on December 15, 2020, 11:25:14 PM
Brandy is indie. No one put a gun to her head and forced her to record B7. No label put her in a boardroom filled with writers and producers. B7 is her baby. She's proud of it and you can tell. Some fans don't wanna accept it, but it's all her. And she doesn't need to work with ANY of the producers mentioned in that tweet. 
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: Justaway_ on December 15, 2020, 11:40:07 PM
Quote from: GYNandTONIC on December 15, 2020, 10:52:57 PM
Brandy is a vocalist, not a producer. I see nothing w/ her adopting the sound that best showcases where she is emotionally. A painter doesn't have to make the canvas and the brushes.

Mariah isn't a producer either, but you see her stamp in all of her albums, and most of them have substantial differences. Memoirs was all Dream but still was a "Mariah" record; HE adapted to her song structures, thematics and vocal habits, etc., not the other way around. He didn't drown her in his sound. Her albums are consistent and despite the vocal decline, you see and appreciate Mariah's essence in each of the records.

Brandy bestows herself to the producer to the point of losing that "essence" to please them, and that's why B7 is melodically modest despite that being one of Brandy's strong points since the very beginning. She's admitted to be insecure and we all see that in every long ass break between albums, and cannot decide for herself which songs are "it", but a seductive, persuasive producer does it for her so he will always put his own vision for the record instead.

I know Bran has the potential to be way more involved in her music because the sole aspect of her vocal knowledge makes her super capable. But her insecurities get in the way.
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: Ulysses on December 15, 2020, 11:45:07 PM
Bran had a major part in this album. MORE than any one of her other albums. Soooo THIS is more of a "Brandy" album and you can tell she put HERSELF into this record. It's def her best. Camper helped bring it out. 
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: Justaway_ on December 15, 2020, 11:46:49 PM
If that's the case.................. :udontlookok: 
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: Brandy's Unconditional Ocean on December 15, 2020, 11:48:58 PM
She's an Artist that changes ever album and era  :dead:

She changed the second she left Rodney and went to Tim and then evolved again. She evolves
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: b7 on December 15, 2020, 11:51:13 PM
Brandy has done a lot of incredible things with her voice this era and on this album that no one else could ever dream of doing :dead:

She definitely pushed herself in every area if you ask me
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: b7 on December 15, 2020, 11:52:10 PM
And  :dead: @ Camper having the power to change Brandy.  Brandy never comes back the same and you can expect a completely different Album the next time

Brandy fans been acting so Brand new lately  :kii:
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: FRANCE on December 15, 2020, 11:58:35 PM
Hey, one thing about B7 - some people love it and love Camper and some people dont. For me, the last time Brandy really BROUGHT it vocally on an album is Human. Her live performances this era have been her best though. I personally wanted more from Brandy vocally and that's me. If others are filled, good 4 u. :)
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: Harlem on December 16, 2020, 12:00:50 AM
All I really want is for Timbaland to come back into play. He seems the fuck ready to get back in w/ her
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: ptyytyme on December 16, 2020, 12:01:43 AM
I don't know how you all call yourselves fans and not understand that Brandy poured her heart and soul into this album. It's almost as confusing as you all not understanding the type of performer Brandy is when you complain about the lipping. Brandy sees herself so much differently as an artist than you all do.
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: Gilgamesh. on December 16, 2020, 12:53:19 AM
I don't think she needs to work with any of those producers except Tim.

But, unfortunately, I genuinely think this new sound is as much her as it is Camper. If anything I'd say she probably had more control due to their relationship.
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: JCJ 🪐 on December 16, 2020, 01:09:44 AM
Quote from: Justaway_ on December 15, 2020, 11:46:49 PM
If that's the case.................. :udontlookok:

Dnndjdjfjfn no shade but I would prefer that she never write again  :dead:
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: JCJ 🪐 on December 16, 2020, 01:10:54 AM
Or write as much
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: Andthecategoryis... on December 16, 2020, 01:39:07 AM
Quote from: FRANCE on December 15, 2020, 11:58:35 PM
Hey, one thing about B7 - some people love it and love Camper and some people dont. For me, the last time Brandy really BROUGHT it vocally on an album is Human. Her live performances this era have been her best though. I personally wanted more from Brandy vocally and that's me. If others are filled, good 4 u. :)
I just don't be knowing what you want from her sometimes, like I feel like you want NSN pretty voice Bran but then say you want more vocally but when she gives a loud lashing vocal you hate it lol.
Bran is different vocally every album and I think she brought it vocally on this album, she said it would be in her lower range and the way she uses her voice on these songs correlate directly with the mood and feel of the album. Two Eleven was vocals down idk what y'all be hearing and I'm not finna let y'all sleep on the Queen. I still think a lot of her fans don't get the genius behind her voice and only take to her because of her tone and runs.
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: Andthecategoryis... on December 16, 2020, 01:47:51 AM
Camper can't change Bran, THIS IS HER...WEIRD AS FVCK as she has been for the past 5 years. Bran is a vocal genius but she lacks musical and artistic direction; she's never known who she is as an artist and that's why she so easily adapts to those producer sounds.

Those albums before WERE NOT BRANDY and I don't know what part y'all don't get. Lashawn was such a mastermind behind her sound and the way she conceptualized singing. Vocally its her tone, runs, harmonies and a lot of her ideas of what certain things may sound like but I don't think we've ever gotten a true Brandy album from her own heart until B7 whether its considered to be good or bad.

This girl sat and said she wanted to re-record the Full Moon album in a lower key and i was done  :hmph:
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: JCJ 🪐 on December 16, 2020, 01:50:34 AM
Whether or not they were "Brandy" they were definitely her "brand." It's understandable why people would want that
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: Justaway_ on December 16, 2020, 01:52:48 AM
Quote from: Brandy's Unconditional Ocean on December 15, 2020, 11:48:58 PM
She evolves

So 2/11 was an evolution from Afrodisiac and Full Moon, even Human?  :omf:
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: Andthecategoryis... on December 16, 2020, 01:59:46 AM
Quote from: Justaway_ on December 16, 2020, 01:52:48 AM
Quote from: Brandy's Unconditional Ocean on December 15, 2020, 11:48:58 PM
She evolves

So 2/11 was an evolution from Afrodisiac and Full Moon, even Human?  :omf:
If Full Moon is such the Magnum Opus that y'all consider her to be then what much more do you expect or want her to evolve into within R&B???? The only other directions I can sen Bran going in for a completely dif sound is if she gave us a POP/ROCK , Country, Jazz, Alternative, EDM or Aretha Soulful type of vibe.
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: Ma Lo on December 16, 2020, 02:46:39 AM
I don't know one artist that really stays the same from project to project. Especially a good artist. They are constantly evolving.  And if B7 sold millions and was nominated for a bunch of Grammys, he wouldn't be saying this. I don't agree with this at all. Just another know it all wanna be A&R ass fag that think he got all the answers but don't know shit. 
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: ….ok. on December 16, 2020, 05:01:30 AM
makin some cookies guys 
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: Young on December 16, 2020, 05:22:42 AM
Quote from: Brandy's Unconditional Ocean on December 15, 2020, 11:48:58 PM
She's an Artist that changes ever album and era  :dead:

She changed the second she left Rodney and went to Tim and then evolved again. She evolves
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: brocka4life on December 16, 2020, 06:12:19 AM
Quote from: Justaway_ on December 15, 2020, 10:16:59 PM
Well that is Brandy's true problem artistically. She doesn't have a "sound": Her albums have always been shaped after the main producer's sound, not hers. Afrodisiac was drastically diferent from FM, as were Human, 2/11 and this one. Bran developed her vocals and that's her unique thing, but sonically she depends way too much on the producer, which sucks. Wish she played a bigger role in her own productions instead of only managing how many runs and adlibs she gon add.

How many singers actually do what you're saying Brandy doesn't?

This happens all the time. Back when AFRO dropped, people were claiming Brandy was trying to take Aaliyah's sound because she worked with Timbaland.

There's nothing wrong with having an issue with the material, but it becomes a problem when unrealistic expectations are placed on Brandy as an artist.

She's always said when approaching an album she works with different producers to find the sound she wants. I don't recall her ever taking credit for creating the sound alone. And most of her albums have a main producer.

The issue for Brandy is that her listeners dissect everything about her music. The average girl's fans just listen for a bop and a coo, and are usually satisfied.
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: brocka4life on December 16, 2020, 06:20:39 AM
Quote from: RIG 7 on December 15, 2020, 11:52:10 PM
And  :dead: @ Camper having the power to change Brandy.  Brandy never comes back the same and you can expect a completely different Album the next time

Brandy fans been acting so Brand new lately  :kii:

They've done this every era since AFRO. When AFRO dropped, they made a big deal about Rodney not being on the album. HUMAN came and they wanted Rodney dead because it didn't "sound like a Brandy album." 2/11 came and they wanted Rodney back.

She will never please everybody. B7 is a BRANDY album more than a lot of the others, especially 2/11 and HUMAN.
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: ….ok. on December 16, 2020, 06:25:35 AM
:guys:
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: Ma Lo on December 16, 2020, 06:36:37 AM
Quote from: brocka4life on December 16, 2020, 06:20:39 AM
Quote from: RIG 7 on December 15, 2020, 11:52:10 PM
And  :dead: @ Camper having the power to change Brandy.  Brandy never comes back the same and you can expect a completely different Album the next time

Brandy fans been acting so Brand new lately  :kii:

They've done this every era since AFRO. When AFRO dropped, they made a big deal about Rodney not being on the album. HUMAN came and they wanted Rodney dead because it didn't "sound like a Brandy album." 2/11 came and they wanted Rodney back.

She will never please everybody. B7 is a BRANDY album more than a lot of the others, especially 2/11 and HUMAN.

Nailed it
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: Gilgamesh. on December 16, 2020, 07:44:34 AM
Quote from: Catherine Of Aragon on December 16, 2020, 02:46:39 AM
I don't know one artist that really stays the same from project to project. Especially a good artist. They are constantly evolving. And if B7 sold millions and was nominated for a bunch of Grammys, he wouldn't be saying this. I don't agree with this at all. Just another know it all wanna be A&R ass fag that think he got all the answers but don't know shit.

No shade, Brandy wasn't exactly heating up the charts with the last two or three messes either, hell RHD was a hit most people still don't use Human so i don't think commercial success is what people are longing for here.
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: REALucid on December 16, 2020, 07:48:25 AM
Love the album. Still play it regularly.

I never want another 2/11.
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: brocka4life on December 16, 2020, 08:02:32 AM
Quote from: REALucid on December 16, 2020, 07:48:25 AM
Love the album. Still play it regularly.

I never want another 2/11.

!!!!
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: Luxury on December 16, 2020, 08:05:27 AM
Ho, ho, sideline ho...
YEWS a heaux ...  :giveittomeddy:
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: Gilgamesh. on December 16, 2020, 08:06:06 AM
Quote from: REALucid on December 16, 2020, 07:48:25 AM
Love the album. Still play it regularly.

I never want another 2/11.

I know everything is subjective but it really suprises me that you and Vonc got in :plzstop:
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: Luxury on December 16, 2020, 08:08:01 AM
Quote from: Andthecategoryis... on December 16, 2020, 01:47:51 AM


This girl sat and said she wanted to re-record the Full Moon album in a lower key and i was done  :hmph:
:melmel: Ghan...   I love u sis
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: GYNandTONIC on December 16, 2020, 08:13:24 AM
I'm curious to know who you guys want see Executive produce the next project.

Personally, I long for Diddy to over see a Brandy project. He doesn't have to be on or produce any of the music. I just think sonically and visually he would get her together
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: Justaway_ on December 16, 2020, 08:17:30 AM
p
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: Aalumeci. on December 16, 2020, 08:33:15 AM
Djdjdjd what's funny about Diddy knows his way around a project actually nnnn
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: Luxury on December 16, 2020, 08:34:36 AM
Quote from: L0NZ. on December 16, 2020, 08:33:15 AM
Djdjdjd what's funny about Diddy knows his way around a project actually nnnn
!
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: brocka4life on December 16, 2020, 08:46:47 AM
Quote from: L0NZ. on December 16, 2020, 08:33:15 AM
Djdjdjd what's funny about Diddy knows his way around a project actually nnnn

Just curious, what were the most recent r&b albums he EP'd?
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: Kaeli. on December 16, 2020, 08:48:53 AM
Quote from: ptyytyme on December 16, 2020, 12:01:43 AM
I don't know how you all call yourselves fans and not understand that Brandy poured her heart and soul into this album. It's almost as confusing as you all not understanding the type of performer Brandy is when you complain about the lipping. Brandy sees herself so much differently as an artist than you all do.
What type of performer is Brandy? She doesn't even have that many "great" performances. it's confusing that we want someone that willingly embraced the Vocal Bible title to...sing live? She doesn't even try to make the pre record believable. Stop enabling her bullshit. That's the problem now

& while we're talking about it. Brandy's "vision" is late and terrible and she doesn't need to be at the helm of her own mess. She needs direction. And NOT from Pamper.
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: Zankou. on December 16, 2020, 08:50:52 AM
:ummwhat:
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: Kaeli. on December 16, 2020, 08:51:27 AM
Oh! 

& the second half of B7 is fucking GARBAGE. 
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: Ma Lo on December 16, 2020, 08:51:57 AM
Quote from: Kaeli. on December 16, 2020, 08:51:27 AM
Oh!

& the second half of B7 is fucking GARBAGE.

nah.
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: Kaeli. on December 16, 2020, 08:52:35 AM
Don't think I asked for a dissenting opinion 
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: brocka4life on December 16, 2020, 08:52:38 AM
Brandy should just put out a few EPs next year. Each having a different approach vocally. One to cater to the fans that like different things about her vocals and the different sounds she's had. Drop one like every quarter in 2021. Shoot a video or two for each one. Then in 2022, release another full album. 
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: Gilgamesh. on December 16, 2020, 08:54:38 AM
Quote from: brocka4life on December 16, 2020, 08:52:38 AM
Brandy should just put out a few EPs next year. Each having a different approach vocally. One to cater to the fans that like different things about her vocals and the different sounds she's had. Drop one like every quarter in 2021. Shoot a video or two for each one. Then in 2022, release another full album.

Bro, you know damn well Bran ain't with the EP/mixtape thing :dead:
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: Kaeli. on December 16, 2020, 08:55:43 AM
Quote from: RIG 7 on December 15, 2020, 11:51:13 PM
Brandy has done a lot of incredible things with her voice this era and on this album that no one else could ever dream of doing :dead:

She definitely pushed herself in every area if you ask me
what exactly did she do vocally on this album that she hasn't on any of the 6 before

Outside of the few high notes
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: brocka4life on December 16, 2020, 09:08:28 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh. on December 16, 2020, 08:54:38 AM
Quote from: brocka4life on December 16, 2020, 08:52:38 AM
Brandy should just put out a few EPs next year. Each having a different approach vocally. One to cater to the fans that like different things about her vocals and the different sounds she's had. Drop one like every quarter in 2021. Shoot a video or two for each one. Then in 2022, release another full album.

Bro, you know damn well Bran ain't with the EP/mixtape thing :dead:

I said should, not will.
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: Bentley. HARRIS! on December 16, 2020, 09:29:55 AM
Quote from: RAY7 on December 15, 2020, 11:21:06 PM
Quote from: FRANCE on December 15, 2020, 11:02:24 PM
One thing I will say about B7 - I expected more of a vocal lashing on the album. After 2/11, Brandy really started to be heralded as a vocal beast, more than ever before. I wasnt expecting Beggin N Pleadin gospel type vocals but I really was hoping she would really go for it. And I didnt get that. I dont think she took risks like she did on Full Moon or Human. I really just want for her to work with more than one producer. Camper did his thing on some of the songs like Rather Be, but I'm sure there are other producers waiting in line to give Brandy their best. And its a shame we didnt get to hear what could've been.
you don't think Bran took risks vocally on B7? All those high falsetto notes that she barely did on any other album? IDK what else y'all want her to do with the voice she has, she still did plenty of runs and some belting
s

oh Ray ....

guys ... vocalists are MORE than just runs and belting. It's alot of things, it's Jill's timbre, it's Erykah's attack of the notes, it's Fantasia's conviction, it's Monica's emotion
... sorry I missed this. hopefully ppl aren't in here spreading more myths.

and that's the problem, so many Brandy fans have a misconception of what a "sound" is or even what her "sound" is.

It's redundant to say Brandy's "sound" is fully based on runs because Jazzy and Kim and a few others can run right there with her  :plzstop:

Layering and Stacking, she's great at that! but that's vocal production babies

that's why on the first 4 alberms she was able to think more from the artists stanpoint.

Brandy has to remember, she's the artist! not the vocal producer. You can't SIT up in a studio punching, layering, stacking, and running ... and think you gonna have an ALBUM

no man ... where is the Focus? where is ADC? Where is WYTM?!!! where is the damn How I Feel?!! ... dammit where is the damn variety outside of this smoky, sleepy, layered, over-processed repetitive running mess

I mean is that all you gorls care about! some fckn running and layers?! like ... shit
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: Kaeli. on December 16, 2020, 09:32:00 AM
:omgwatshappening: 
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: Bentley. HARRIS! on December 16, 2020, 09:37:34 AM
BIK is BROKE! check their accounts 😈
LBA is that girl, expanding even
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: GYNandTONIC on December 16, 2020, 09:39:06 AM
To attack Brandy as a vocalist is just stupid!

Borderline ALONE had the girls studying and dissecting for dear life. If your ears are over it...that's fine. But to continuously try to downplay her ability and influence (with her current work) is just stupid. Because the evidence is there and this particular album for Brandy has done more than her last few.
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: ….ok. on December 16, 2020, 09:42:55 AM
Quote from: Kaeli. on December 16, 2020, 08:51:27 AM
Oh!

& the second half of B7 is fucking GARBAGE.
careful bvy cuz

don't get drowsy taken care of in here princess
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: Bentley. HARRIS! on December 16, 2020, 09:44:18 AM
Quote from: GYNandTONIC on December 16, 2020, 09:39:06 AM
To attack Brandy as a vocalist is just stupid!

Borderline ALONE had the girls studying and dissecting for dear life. If your ears are over it...that's fine. But to continuously try to downplay her ability and influence (with her current work) is just stupid. Because the evidence is there and this particular album for Brandy has done more than her last few.
Hey Gyn!

Who attacked her as a vocalist?
:damselindistress:
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: Amazing on December 16, 2020, 09:44:46 AM
I hate Camper's productions.

I hate almost everything he has done with Mary J Blige too. He makes her voice sound super weird and horrible in every song.

He is definitely the problem.
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: Bigmacthawoppa on December 16, 2020, 09:54:24 AM
Quote from: Bentley. HARRIS! on December 16, 2020, 09:29:55 AM
Quote from: RAY7 on December 15, 2020, 11:21:06 PM
Quote from: FRANCE on December 15, 2020, 11:02:24 PM
One thing I will say about B7 - I expected more of a vocal lashing on the album. After 2/11, Brandy really started to be heralded as a vocal beast, more than ever before. I wasnt expecting Beggin N Pleadin gospel type vocals but I really was hoping she would really go for it. And I didnt get that. I dont think she took risks like she did on Full Moon or Human. I really just want for her to work with more than one producer. Camper did his thing on some of the songs like Rather Be, but I'm sure there are other producers waiting in line to give Brandy their best. And its a shame we didnt get to hear what could've been.
you don't think Bran took risks vocally on B7? All those high falsetto notes that she barely did on any other album? IDK what else y'all want her to do with the voice she has, she still did plenty of runs and some belting
s

oh Ray ....

guys ... vocalists are MORE than just runs and belting. It's alot of things, it's Jill's timbre, it's Erykah's attack of the notes, it's Fantasia's conviction, it's Monica's emotion
... sorry I missed this. hopefully ppl aren't in here spreading more myths.

and that's the problem, so many Brandy fans have a misconception of what a "sound" is or even what her "sound" is.

It's redundant to say Brandy's "sound" is fully based on runs because Jazzy and Kim and a few others can run right there with her  :plzstop:

Layering and Stacking, she's great at that! but that's vocal production babies

that's why on the first 4 alberms she was able to think more from the artists stanpoint.

Brandy has to remember, she's the artist! not the vocal producer. You can't SIT up in a studio punching, layering, stacking, and running ... and think you gonna have an ALBUM

no man ... where is the Focus? where is ADC? Where is WYTM?!!! where is the damn How I Feel?!! ... dammit where is the damn variety outside of this smoky, sleepy, layered, over-processed repetitive running mess

I mean is that all you gorls care about! some fckn running and layers?! like ... shit

!!!!!

I think that's it for me. This vocal filter and constant singing in a male key makes her voice unappealing on this record. Never thought I'd ever say that, but here we are.
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: Bigmacthawoppa on December 16, 2020, 09:57:08 AM
Quote from: I'm on the Borderline on December 16, 2020, 09:44:46 AM
I hate Camper's productions.

I hate almost everything he has done with Mary J Blige too. He makes her voice sound super weird and horrible in every song.

He is definitely the problem.

He's terrible. Cheap ass "horns" everywhere. That's his sound. Just a horn patch in every song  :dead:
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: Kaeli. on December 16, 2020, 10:00:54 AM
Quote from: king of hearts on December 16, 2020, 09:42:55 AM
Quote from: Kaeli. on December 16, 2020, 08:51:27 AM
Oh!

& the second half of B7 is fucking GARBAGE.
careful bvy cuz

don't get drowsy taken care of in here princess
QUEENzy actually put together a cohesive mess last year

Am hoping brans will do the same for her next alber

:wellheythere:
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: Kaeli. on December 16, 2020, 10:01:25 AM
Quote from: Bigmacthawoppa on December 16, 2020, 09:57:08 AM
Quote from: I'm on the Borderline on December 16, 2020, 09:44:46 AM
I hate Camper's productions.

I hate almost everything he has done with Mary J Blige too. He makes her voice sound super weird and horrible in every song.

He is definitely the problem.

He's terrible. Cheap ass "horns" everywhere. That's his sound. Just a horn patch in every song  :dead:
VVSBSBSHUSJEJEIEOKEIDO
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: Kaeli. on December 16, 2020, 10:01:48 AM
Also Mary can't sing anymore

not sure how much anybody can help her 
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: Amazing on December 16, 2020, 10:07:39 AM
Quote from: Kaeli. on December 16, 2020, 10:01:48 AM
Also Mary can't sing anymore

not sure how much anybody can help her

Other producers get her to hold back in the studio on them interesting notes. This definitely works better for her because the tone is still there. Like This works:

https://youtu.be/NSh3Uh-kj_k

I bet Camper be telling her she is killing it in the booth.  :-/
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: ….ok. on December 16, 2020, 10:14:46 AM
Quote from: Kaeli. on December 16, 2020, 10:00:54 AM
Quote from: king of hearts on December 16, 2020, 09:42:55 AM
Quote from: Kaeli. on December 16, 2020, 08:51:27 AM
Oh!

& the second half of B7 is fucking GARBAGE.
careful bvy cuz

don't get drowsy taken care of in here princess
QUEENzy actually put together a cohesive mess last year


well a bowel movement is cohesive too princess

1 plop 2 plops 3 plops 4
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: SouravMay on December 16, 2020, 10:21:01 AM
Quote from: brocka4life on December 16, 2020, 06:20:39 AM
Quote from: RIG 7 on December 15, 2020, 11:52:10 PM
And  :dead: @ Camper having the power to change Brandy.  Brandy never comes back the same and you can expect a completely different Album the next time

Brandy fans been acting so Brand new lately  :kii:

They've done this every era since AFRO. When AFRO dropped, they made a big deal about Rodney not being on the album. HUMAN came and they wanted Rodney dead because it didn't "sound like a Brandy album." 2/11 came and they wanted Rodney back.

She will never please everybody. B7 is a BRANDY album more than a lot of the others, especially 2/11 and HUMAN.

thank you.
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: SouravMay on December 16, 2020, 10:21:44 AM
How dare you listen to GOD-7, the most 'brandy' album since full moon and then wish for fucking PICO love to come back, who gave the most generic songs ever.

:plzstop: :plzstop:
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: SouravMay on December 16, 2020, 10:24:25 AM
Quote from: I'm on the Borderline on December 16, 2020, 10:07:39 AM
Quote from: Kaeli. on December 16, 2020, 10:01:48 AM
Also Mary can't sing anymore

not sure how much anybody can help her

Other producers get her to hold back in the studio on them interesting notes. This definitely works better for her because the tone is still there. Like This works:

https://youtu.be/NSh3Uh-kj_k

I bet Camper be telling her she is killing it in the booth.  :-/

ACKKK that is my JAM... I love this song
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: SouravMay on December 16, 2020, 10:26:13 AM
Quote from: brocka4life on December 16, 2020, 08:02:32 AM
Quote from: REALucid on December 16, 2020, 07:48:25 AM
Love the album. Still play it regularly.

I never want another 2/11.

!!!!

THIS.

Two Eleven and Human were really just lil compilations and no albums.
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: Amazing on December 16, 2020, 10:27:20 AM
Quote from: Mack on December 16, 2020, 10:24:25 AM
Quote from: I'm on the Borderline on December 16, 2020, 10:07:39 AM
Quote from: Kaeli. on December 16, 2020, 10:01:48 AM
Also Mary can't sing anymore

not sure how much anybody can help her

Other producers get her to hold back in the studio on them interesting notes. This definitely works better for her because the tone is still there. Like This works:

https://youtu.be/NSh3Uh-kj_k

I bet Camper be telling her she is killing it in the booth.  :-/

ACKKK that is my JAM... I love this song

Produced by B. A. M.

I LOVE his work. Brandy needs to make an album with him and Pop & Oak.
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: Andthecategoryis... on December 16, 2020, 10:27:41 AM
Quote from: brocka4life on December 16, 2020, 08:52:38 AM
Brandy should just put out a few EPs next year. Each having a different approach vocally. One to cater to the fans that like different things about her vocals and the different sounds she's had. Drop one like every quarter in 2021. Shoot a video or two for each one. Then in 2022, release another full album.
Yesss this is what I want, idk why she insist on still acting like its 1998 when people have the attention span of a two year old. Give us three different Eps with dif sounds and vocals 3-5 songs to keep her name out there.
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: JCJ 🪐 on December 16, 2020, 10:33:13 AM
Quote from: king of hearts on December 16, 2020, 05:01:30 AM
makin some cookies guys


Better be chocolate chip
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: Kaeli. on December 16, 2020, 10:34:09 AM
Quote from: king of hearts on December 16, 2020, 10:14:46 AM
Quote from: Kaeli. on December 16, 2020, 10:00:54 AM
Quote from: king of hearts on December 16, 2020, 09:42:55 AM
Quote from: Kaeli. on December 16, 2020, 08:51:27 AM
Oh!

& the second half of B7 is fucking GARBAGE.
careful bvy cuz

don't get drowsy taken care of in here princess
QUEENzy actually put together a cohesive mess last year


well a bowel movement
no need to talk about B7 in here hun :guys:
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: JCJ 🪐 on December 16, 2020, 10:39:03 AM
 :omgwatshappening:
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: ….ok. on December 16, 2020, 10:41:04 AM
ur out of line.  :trannyjblige:
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: Bigmacthawoppa on December 16, 2020, 10:42:57 AM
Quote from: Mack on December 16, 2020, 10:26:13 AM
Quote from: brocka4life on December 16, 2020, 08:02:32 AM
Quote from: REALucid on December 16, 2020, 07:48:25 AM
Love the album. Still play it regularly.

I never want another 2/11.

!!!!

THIS.

Two Eleven and Human were really just lil compilations and no albums.

Ummm b7 is only decent through the first 7 or so songs. It feels like an EP where they ran out of songs that fit the theme and the back half was tacked on for length. If any of her mess gives compilation teas it's b7
:plzstop:
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: SouravMay on December 16, 2020, 10:53:27 AM
Quote from: Bigmacthawoppa on December 16, 2020, 10:42:57 AM
Quote from: Mack on December 16, 2020, 10:26:13 AM
Quote from: brocka4life on December 16, 2020, 08:02:32 AM
Quote from: REALucid on December 16, 2020, 07:48:25 AM
Love the album. Still play it regularly.

I never want another 2/11.

!!!!

THIS.

Two Eleven and Human were really just lil compilations and no albums.

Ummm b7 is only decent through the first 7 or so songs. It feels like an EP where they ran out of songs that fit the theme and the back half was tacked on for length. If any of her mess gives compilation teas it's b7
:plzstop:

The album is perfect until this High Heels mess comes on.
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: Bigmacthawoppa on December 16, 2020, 10:54:33 AM
D okay gur
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: SouravMay on December 16, 2020, 10:55:58 AM
two elev' was just a bunch of leftovers from kelly rowland and company. it was a bunch of hot songs, but no album feel at all.
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: Luxury on December 16, 2020, 10:58:31 AM
Quote from: GYNandTONIC on December 16, 2020, 09:39:06 AM
To attack Brandy as a vocalist is just stupid!

Borderline ALONE had the girls studying and dissecting for dear life. If your ears are over it...that's fine. But to continuously try to downplay her ability and influence (with her current work) is just stupid. Because the evidence is there and this particular album for Brandy has done more than her last few.
When did this happen hun :everythingok:
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: Bigmacthawoppa on December 16, 2020, 10:59:46 AM
I'm not saying 2/11 was great- it was my least favorite before b7 came out. But at least those songs were well produced and professional sounding. With, you know, structure and stuff.
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: Bigmacthawoppa on December 16, 2020, 11:00:33 AM
Quote from: Luxury on December 16, 2020, 10:58:31 AM
Quote from: GYNandTONIC on December 16, 2020, 09:39:06 AM
To attack Brandy as a vocalist is just stupid!

Borderline ALONE had the girls studying and dissecting for dear life. If your ears are over it...that's fine. But to continuously try to downplay her ability and influence (with her current work) is just stupid. Because the evidence is there and this particular album for Brandy has done more than her last few.
When did this happen hun :everythingok:

Dddd these sensitive ass people. No one has ever said that on here  :dead:
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: Luxury on December 16, 2020, 11:02:26 AM
Quote from: Bigmacthawoppa on December 16, 2020, 10:42:57 AM
Quote from: Mack on December 16, 2020, 10:26:13 AM
Quote from: brocka4life on December 16, 2020, 08:02:32 AM
Quote from: REALucid on December 16, 2020, 07:48:25 AM
Love the album. Still play it regularly.

I never want another 2/11.

!!!!

THIS.

Two Eleven and Human were really just lil compilations and no albums.

Ummm b7 is only decent through the first 7 or so songs. It feels like an EP where they ran out of songs that fit the theme and the back half was tacked on for length. If any of her mess gives compilation teas it's b7
:plzstop:
:letsmessfag:
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: Young on December 16, 2020, 11:15:48 AM
Brandy's VOICE is a sound in and of itself ; first of all .
And so is her style of singing .

I definitely think Camper's style of production allowed for Bran to vocally be free and create the melodies and harmonies she loves to make.

No matter the producer, Brandy brings BRANDY to a record tho.

We can all have our preferences about which album is better; but the fascinating part about Bran is her music and albums resonate differently with different people. I appreciate how she's able to reinvent herself in new ways with each producer she gets with.

This album is clearly more intimate and subdued for the most part as far as production. But that's one of the beautiful things about B7!  It's intimate , it's Brandy's voice , and it's Bran at her most vulnerable. I love it !

But I would definitely appreciate a different sound next era. Maybe a song or two by Camper.
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: Harlem on December 16, 2020, 11:34:03 AM
Brandy's adult dream team is Timbaland, James Fauntleroy & Candice Nelson. She just needs to lock them in a studio and create what we all been waiting for, for fuckin years!

Dead Frank Gatson, book Jaquel or Fatima Robinson, book some nice videographers and give us something dope!

In the meantime, she just need to release Rather Be & Say Something and keep it pushing
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: Annie on December 16, 2020, 11:51:10 AM
Where is Lew? I need his predictions on the next release date. Last time he said something like it will take ten years and it happened. 
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: bby ddy on December 16, 2020, 12:24:47 PM
Quote from: Young on December 16, 2020, 11:15:48 AM
Brandy's VOICE is a sound in and of itself ; first of all .
And so is her style of singing .

I definitely think Camper's style of production allowed for Bran to vocally be free and create the melodies and harmonies she loves to make.

No matter the producer, Brandy brings BRANDY to a record tho.

We can all have our preferences about which album is better; but the fascinating part about Bran is her music and albums resonate differently with different people. I appreciate how she's able to reinvent herself in new ways with each producer she gets with.

This album is clearly more intimate and subdued for the most part as far as production. But that's the beautiful of B7 . It's intimate , it's Brandy's voice , it's vulnerable, and it's Bran at her most vulnerable state. I love it !

But I would definitely appreciate a different sound next era. Maybe a song or two by Camper.

This.

The girls are crazy to believe this isn't Brandy's doing. This is her first indie record. She's the captain. If she was easily persuaded, she woulda released an album back in 2014/2015 when Jeff was managing her.
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: Andthecategoryis... on December 16, 2020, 12:50:08 PM
Quote from: bby ddy on December 16, 2020, 12:24:47 PM
Quote from: Young on December 16, 2020, 11:15:48 AM
Brandy's VOICE is a sound in and of itself ; first of all .
And so is her style of singing .

I definitely think Camper's style of production allowed for Bran to vocally be free and create the melodies and harmonies she loves to make.

No matter the producer, Brandy brings BRANDY to a record tho.

We can all have our preferences about which album is better; but the fascinating part about Bran is her music and albums resonate differently with different people. I appreciate how she's able to reinvent herself in new ways with each producer she gets with.

This album is clearly more intimate and subdued for the most part as far as production. But that's the beautiful of B7 . It's intimate , it's Brandy's voice , it's vulnerable, and it's Bran at her most vulnerable state. I love it !

But I would definitely appreciate a different sound next era. Maybe a song or two by Camper.

This.

The girls are crazy to believe this isn't Brandy's doing. This is her first indie record. She's the captain. If she was easily persuaded, she woulda released an album back in 2014/2015 when Jeff was managing her.
Ugh what happened with her and Jeff?? She was right there in the midst of him preparing HER for her big rise to stardom and promised she was gonna be at them Grammys and top of the charts and a couple of years later she took off. I thought it was gonna be HER as the breakout star and Brandy on her comeback/iconic game but then the relationship went left.
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: RAY7 on December 16, 2020, 12:56:05 PM
Quote from: Andthecategoryis... on December 16, 2020, 12:50:08 PM
Quote from: bby ddy on December 16, 2020, 12:24:47 PM
Quote from: Young on December 16, 2020, 11:15:48 AM
Brandy's VOICE is a sound in and of itself ; first of all .
And so is her style of singing .

I definitely think Camper's style of production allowed for Bran to vocally be free and create the melodies and harmonies she loves to make.

No matter the producer, Brandy brings BRANDY to a record tho.

We can all have our preferences about which album is better; but the fascinating part about Bran is her music and albums resonate differently with different people. I appreciate how she's able to reinvent herself in new ways with each producer she gets with.

This album is clearly more intimate and subdued for the most part as far as production. But that's the beautiful of B7 . It's intimate , it's Brandy's voice , it's vulnerable, and it's Bran at her most vulnerable state. I love it !

But I would definitely appreciate a different sound next era. Maybe a song or two by Camper.

This.

The girls are crazy to believe this isn't Brandy's doing. This is her first indie record. She's the captain. If she was easily persuaded, she woulda released an album back in 2014/2015 when Jeff was managing her.
Ugh what happened with her and Jeff?? She was right there in the midst of him preparing HER for her big rise to stardom and promised she was gonna be at them Grammys and top of the charts and a couple of years later she took off. I thought it was gonna be HER as the breakout star and Brandy on her comeback/iconic game but then the relationship went left.
I think Jeff stepped back when Bran was having the legal issues with Breyon and Chameleon ent
they were tryna force Bran into a bad deal and Jeff didnt want any parts of it
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: Le Champ on December 16, 2020, 12:57:25 PM
I agree that the latter half of the album (after Say Something) isn't as strong as the first, but it's still solid IMO. I don't use I Am More, but I like everything else. Love Again may have felt more iconic if we hadn't had it a year before the album came out lol
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: Bigmacthawoppa on December 16, 2020, 12:57:45 PM
I don't think she likes being pushed unless it's someone she's very comfortable/close with like LaShawn. Getting with Camper satisfied her need to be surrounded by people who won't question what she's doing. She's an icon and he's an up and comer, so I think maybe he just "yes manned" her ideas and she prefers it that way. Just a theory.
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: ….ok. on December 16, 2020, 01:04:02 PM
whore'dorves coming up ☺️☺️
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: Kalifornia. on December 16, 2020, 01:34:45 PM
Unconditional Oceans has crept into my Apple Music Top 25
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: Dr Naomi Campbell on December 16, 2020, 01:38:27 PM
I don't have an issue with Brandy being a vocal vessel or a muse.
It takes talent to adapt to different producer styles without it coming off as try hard.
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: Dr Naomi Campbell on December 16, 2020, 01:42:39 PM
Quote from: Harlem on December 16, 2020, 11:34:03 AM
Brandy's adult dream team is Timbaland, Danja, James Fauntleroy & Candice Nelson. She just needs to lock them in a studio and create what we all been waiting for, for fuckin years!

Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: Le Champ on December 16, 2020, 01:43:36 PM
Quote from: Bigmacthawoppa on December 16, 2020, 12:57:45 PM
I don't think she likes being pushed unless it's someone she's very comfortable/close with like LaShawn. Getting with Camper satisfied her need to be surrounded by people who won't question what she's doing. She's an icon and he's an up and comer, so I think maybe he just "yes manned" her ideas and she prefers it that way. Just a theory.
I can see this. Camper is very much obsessed and will probably praise anything she does. Although I enjoy b7, I definitely feel like that could get in the way of her being at her best.
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: Zankou. on December 16, 2020, 01:46:17 PM
Quote from: Kalifornia. on December 16, 2020, 01:34:45 PM
Unconditional Oceans has crept into my Apple Music Top 25

Creep into a clinic
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: Dr Naomi Campbell on December 16, 2020, 01:46:55 PM
*coffin
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: RAY7 on December 16, 2020, 01:52:32 PM
Quote from: Bigmacthawoppa on December 16, 2020, 12:57:45 PM
I don't think she likes being pushed unless it's someone she's very comfortable/close with like LaShawn. Getting with Camper satisfied her need to be surrounded by people who won't question what she's doing. She's an icon and he's an up and comer, so I think maybe he just "yes manned" her ideas and she prefers it that way. Just a theory.
this doesn't make sense though because LaShawn is all through the album and you say he pushes her so she still got a push even if it wasn't from Camper which we don't even know for a fact
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: ….ok. on December 16, 2020, 01:55:51 PM
I dunno if Timbo is even an option anymore tbh

unless he gets in the mood to do a passion project mess , I'm assuming a budget is needed to secure his time...
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: Dr Naomi Campbell on December 16, 2020, 01:56:35 PM
Quote from: king of hearts on December 16, 2020, 01:55:51 PM
I dunno if Timbo is even an option anymore tbh

unless he gets in the mood to do a passion project mess , I'm assuming a budget is needed to secure his time...
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: Dr Naomi Campbell on December 16, 2020, 01:57:06 PM
Unless he's in it for the nostalgia
I don't want a copy and paste beat mess from timbo
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: Bigmacthawoppa on December 16, 2020, 01:57:59 PM
I was moreso referring to her and Jeff parting ways. Plus, we know she went back in and re-recorded a lot of these vocals after LaShawn died. I have a feeling the original cuts were a lot cleaner/better. Listen to the original snippets of Borderline. Those runs and belts>>>>>

She ended up ditching that and throwing in a bit tew much autotune.
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: RAY7 on December 16, 2020, 02:01:34 PM
Quote from: Bigmacthawoppa on December 16, 2020, 01:57:59 PM
Plus, we know she went back in and re-recorded a lot of these vocals after LaShawn died. 

we do? We were in the studio sessions?
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: RAY7 on December 16, 2020, 02:02:09 PM
Are there full versions of the original versions of all the songs on B7?
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: Bigmacthawoppa on December 16, 2020, 02:02:53 PM
Quote from: RAY7 on December 16, 2020, 02:01:34 PM
Quote from: Bigmacthawoppa on December 16, 2020, 01:57:59 PM
Plus, we know she went back in and re-recorded a lot of these vocals after LaShawn died. 

we do? We were in the studio sessions?

I'm just going based on the timelines of what she teased vs the final product. Don't be deliberately obtuse :dead:
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: Bigmacthawoppa on December 16, 2020, 02:04:16 PM
Quote from: RAY7 on December 16, 2020, 02:02:09 PM
Are there full versions of the original versions of all the songs on B7?

Ok are you implying she didn't go into the studio and redo any vocals after LaShawn died? No there are not full versions but there are several songs she teased before which are now completely different.
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: TriBeCa on December 16, 2020, 02:09:30 PM
Quote from: Jayda X on December 16, 2020, 01:56:35 PM
Quote from: king of hearts on December 16, 2020, 01:55:51 PM
I dunno if Timbo is even an option anymore tbh

unless he gets in the mood to do a passion project mess , I'm assuming a budget is needed to secure his time...

Uhh Timbaland was all up in Brandy's comments over the summer, letting her know HE was ready to make more magic. If anything, Brandy is the one holding herself back.
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: RAY7 on December 16, 2020, 02:24:01 PM
Quote from: Bigmacthawoppa on December 16, 2020, 02:04:16 PM
Quote from: RAY7 on December 16, 2020, 02:02:09 PM
Are there full versions of the original versions of all the songs on B7?

Ok are you implying she didn't go into the studio and redo any vocals after LaShawn died? No there are not full versions but there are several songs she teased before which are now completely different.
Im only saying we didnt hear the full songs before, so did she re-do "some" vocals? yes
is it "a lot"? thats not really confirmed
does it have anything to do with Camper being a "yes man"? No
I mean Rodney pushes her a lot and there are versions of a lot of the Human era songs so...
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: Bigmacthawoppa on December 16, 2020, 02:43:13 PM
Quote from: RAY7 on December 16, 2020, 02:24:01 PM
Quote from: Bigmacthawoppa on December 16, 2020, 02:04:16 PM
Quote from: RAY7 on December 16, 2020, 02:02:09 PM
Are there full versions of the original versions of all the songs on B7?

Ok are you implying she didn't go into the studio and redo any vocals after LaShawn died? No there are not full versions but there are several songs she teased before which are now completely different.
Im only saying we didnt hear the full songs before, so did she re-do "some" vocals? yes
is it "a lot"? thats not really confirmed
does it have anything to do with Camper being a "yes man"? No
I mean Rodney pushes her a lot and there are versions of a lot of the Human era songs so...

Actually she recently revealed that it was LaShawn in the studio pushing those FM vocals out of her. She said she was too nervous to sing in front of Rodney. So my assumption was that with Lashawn gone she retooled some of the songs and didn't have someone there challenging her, i.e. Camper.
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: Bentley. HARRIS! on December 16, 2020, 02:45:41 PM
Quote from: Bigmacthawoppa on December 16, 2020, 02:43:13 PM
Quote from: RAY7 on December 16, 2020, 02:24:01 PM
Quote from: Bigmacthawoppa on December 16, 2020, 02:04:16 PM
Quote from: RAY7 on December 16, 2020, 02:02:09 PM
Are there full versions of the original versions of all the songs on B7?

Ok are you implying she didn't go into the studio and redo any vocals after LaShawn died? No there are not full versions but there are several songs she teased before which are now completely different.
Im only saying we didnt hear the full songs before, so did she re-do "some" vocals? yes
is it "a lot"? thats not really confirmed
does it have anything to do with Camper being a "yes man"? No
I mean Rodney pushes her a lot and there are versions of a lot of the Human era songs so...

Actually she recently revealed that it was LaShawn in the studio pushing those FM vocals out of her. She said she was too nervous to sing in front of Rodney. So my assumption was that with Lashawn gone she retooled some of the songs and didn't have someone there challenging her, i.e. Camper.
sssssssssss

yea Ray what are you even trying to say, it's confusing lol
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: ReVon on December 16, 2020, 02:49:08 PM
Yall are funny as hell :dead:
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: RAY7 on December 16, 2020, 02:56:42 PM
Quote from: Bigmacthawoppa on December 16, 2020, 02:43:13 PM
Quote from: RAY7 on December 16, 2020, 02:24:01 PM
Quote from: Bigmacthawoppa on December 16, 2020, 02:04:16 PM
Quote from: RAY7 on December 16, 2020, 02:02:09 PM
Are there full versions of the original versions of all the songs on B7?

Ok are you implying she didn't go into the studio and redo any vocals after LaShawn died? No there are not full versions but there are several songs she teased before which are now completely different.
Im only saying we didnt hear the full songs before, so did she re-do "some" vocals? yes
is it "a lot"? thats not really confirmed
does it have anything to do with Camper being a "yes man"? No
I mean Rodney pushes her a lot and there are versions of a lot of the Human era songs so...

Actually she recently revealed that it was LaShawn in the studio pushing those FM vocals out of her. She said she was too nervous to sing in front of Rodney. So my assumption was that with Lashawn gone she retooled some of the songs and didn't have someone there challenging her, i.e. Camper.
just because she didnt sing in front of Rodney doesnt mean he didnt push her by listening to the recordings and making her do them over, and there's like three versions of "Fall" which LaShawn co-wrote so
is Bran re-doing vocals an effect of losing LaShawn or just Bran being a perfectionist no matter who shes working with?
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: Aalumeci. on December 16, 2020, 02:59:07 PM
Quote from: Bentley. HARRIS! on December 16, 2020, 02:45:41 PM
Quote from: Bigmacthawoppa on December 16, 2020, 02:43:13 PM
Quote from: RAY7 on December 16, 2020, 02:24:01 PM
Quote from: Bigmacthawoppa on December 16, 2020, 02:04:16 PM
Quote from: RAY7 on December 16, 2020, 02:02:09 PM
Are there full versions of the original versions of all the songs on B7?

Ok are you implying she didn't go into the studio and redo any vocals after LaShawn died? No there are not full versions but there are several songs she teased before which are now completely different.
Im only saying we didnt hear the full songs before, so did she re-do "some" vocals? yes
is it "a lot"? thats not really confirmed
does it have anything to do with Camper being a "yes man"? No
I mean Rodney pushes her a lot and there are versions of a lot of the Human era songs so...

Actually she recently revealed that it was LaShawn in the studio pushing those FM vocals out of her. She said she was too nervous to sing in front of Rodney. So my assumption was that with Lashawn gone she retooled some of the songs and didn't have someone there challenging her, i.e. Camper.
sssssssssss

yea Ray what are you even trying to say, it's confusing lol

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"Redo" some "a lot" but "kinda" confirmed but not, yes.
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: RAY7 on December 16, 2020, 03:11:42 PM
Quote from: L0NZ. on December 16, 2020, 02:59:07 PM
Quote from: Bentley. HARRIS! on December 16, 2020, 02:45:41 PM
Quote from: Bigmacthawoppa on December 16, 2020, 02:43:13 PM
Quote from: RAY7 on December 16, 2020, 02:24:01 PM
Quote from: Bigmacthawoppa on December 16, 2020, 02:04:16 PM
Quote from: RAY7 on December 16, 2020, 02:02:09 PM
Are there full versions of the original versions of all the songs on B7?

Ok are you implying she didn't go into the studio and redo any vocals after LaShawn died? No there are not full versions but there are several songs she teased before which are now completely different.
Im only saying we didnt hear the full songs before, so did she re-do "some" vocals? yes
is it "a lot"? thats not really confirmed
does it have anything to do with Camper being a "yes man"? No
I mean Rodney pushes her a lot and there are versions of a lot of the Human era songs so...

Actually she recently revealed that it was LaShawn in the studio pushing those FM vocals out of her. She said she was too nervous to sing in front of Rodney. So my assumption was that with Lashawn gone she retooled some of the songs and didn't have someone there challenging her, i.e. Camper.
sssssssssss

yea Ray what are you even trying to say, it's confusing lol

F
F

"Redo" some "a lot" but "kinda" confirmed but not, yes.
the person I was talking to replied, with no problem guys...
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: Ma Lo on December 16, 2020, 03:55:11 PM
I stopped reading when I read " brandy doesn't have a style" .. I just ...
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: ….ok. on December 16, 2020, 04:02:10 PM
Quote from: Say-Something-ReVon on December 16, 2020, 02:49:08 PM
Yall are funny as hell :dead:
wats happening
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: REALucid on December 16, 2020, 04:03:23 PM
Quote from: Corporate Cannibal. on December 16, 2020, 03:58:01 PM
Y'all complain every era. b7 shits on Two Eleven and Human. She approaches each album differently when it comes to vocals. Why are yall surprised? if you don't like it, that's fine. It's all subjective anyway. But some of yall go overboard. Go listen to the old shit lol
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: ….ok. on December 16, 2020, 04:06:37 PM
u fags are out of line. :ummwhat:
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: RAY7 on December 16, 2020, 04:09:47 PM
Quote from: REALucid on December 16, 2020, 04:03:23 PM
Quote from: Corporate Cannibal. on December 16, 2020, 03:58:01 PM
Y'all complain every era. b7 shits on Two Eleven and Human. She approaches each album differently when it comes to vocals. Why are yall surprised? if you don't like it, that's fine. It's all subjective anyway. But some of yall go overboard. Go listen to the old shit lol
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: JCJ 🪐 on December 16, 2020, 04:14:12 PM
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Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: Luxury on December 16, 2020, 04:22:41 PM
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Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: Bigmacthawoppa on December 16, 2020, 04:23:56 PM
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Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: ….ok. on December 16, 2020, 04:26:58 PM
Quote from: Luxury on December 16, 2020, 04:22:41 PM
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Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: ….ok. on December 16, 2020, 04:39:28 PM
Let's brighten up the mood in here

apple martinis for everyone ! Lmao!

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Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: GYNandTONIC on December 16, 2020, 04:44:42 PM
Quote from: Catherine Of Aragon on December 16, 2020, 03:55:11 PM
I stopped reading when I read " brandy doesn't have a style" .. I just ...

Like... :uhh:
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: yummy on December 16, 2020, 04:48:03 PM
what's going on
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: yearofbrandy on December 16, 2020, 05:18:18 PM
Omg Brandy is performing and doing the most since the full moon era and here we are complaining! 
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: Bentley. HARRIS! on December 16, 2020, 05:37:53 PM
Quote from: RAY7 on December 16, 2020, 03:11:42 PM
Quote from: L0NZ. on December 16, 2020, 02:59:07 PM
Quote from: Bentley. HARRIS! on December 16, 2020, 02:45:41 PM
Quote from: Bigmacthawoppa on December 16, 2020, 02:43:13 PM
Quote from: RAY7 on December 16, 2020, 02:24:01 PM
Quote from: Bigmacthawoppa on December 16, 2020, 02:04:16 PM
Quote from: RAY7 on December 16, 2020, 02:02:09 PM
Are there full versions of the original versions of all the songs on B7?

Ok are you implying she didn't go into the studio and redo any vocals after LaShawn died? No there are not full versions but there are several songs she teased before which are now completely different.
Im only saying we didnt hear the full songs before, so did she re-do "some" vocals? yes
is it "a lot"? thats not really confirmed
does it have anything to do with Camper being a "yes man"? No
I mean Rodney pushes her a lot and there are versions of a lot of the Human era songs so...

Actually she recently revealed that it was LaShawn in the studio pushing those FM vocals out of her. She said she was too nervous to sing in front of Rodney. So my assumption was that with Lashawn gone she retooled some of the songs and didn't have someone there challenging her, i.e. Camper.
sssssssssss

yea Ray what are you even trying to say, it's confusing lol

F
F

"Redo" some "a lot" but "kinda" confirmed but not, yes.
the person I was talking to replied, with no problem guys...
I reply to slow ppl all the time
it's called being a good person

not calling you slow tho
just saying that getting a reply doesn't mean you made any sense, cause you didn't heart🙏🏾
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: Bentley. HARRIS! on December 16, 2020, 05:44:02 PM
And I feel like .... if ppl feel like she doesn't have a SET sound ... then they honestly can

I mean ... are yawl gonna hate them if they don't change their mind?  lol

it's just a different viewpoint of how her career has progressed that's all

I'm a fan of Afrodisiac, the MOST critically acclaimed album and it's her most adult album, and also the overall broad favorite of the entire fanbase, (even tho there is a cult following of FM among singers).
And I'm also a fan of very distinct "artists" who have distinct "sounds"

So I'm very particular about certain things, I don't go up for just any lil' thing lol
Ray stans for Ashanti, Usher, and Tank ... and wants to enter the chat about having a sound?! :dead: ok

I mean ... we're all friends here is what I'm tryna say. No foul.
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: BranNu on December 16, 2020, 06:13:43 PM
Quote from: yearofbrandy on December 16, 2020, 05:18:18 PM
Omg Brandy is performing and doing the most since the full moon era and here we are complaining!

Nobody is complaining
Title: Re: DJ Camper is changing Bran
Post by: Andthecategoryis... on December 17, 2020, 10:58:40 AM
Quote from: Bigmacthawoppa on December 16, 2020, 01:57:59 PM
I was moreso referring to her and Jeff parting ways. Plus, we know she went back in and re-recorded a lot of these vocals after LaShawn died. I have a feeling the original cuts were a lot cleaner/better. Listen to the original snippets of Borderline. Those runs and belts>>>>>

She ended up ditching that and throwing in a bit tew much autotune.
Borderline has always sounded like that, very moody and layered from that reversed clip she posted years back and it sounded that way in the studio w/ Lashawn. The one she posted on instagram was proab just a reference or her playing around...although I wish we got that grunt