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Title: Not 500 people missing
Post by: FlowerBomb on June 19, 2017, 12:12:00 PM
https://twitter.com/gaurangmorjaria/status/875999379181719552  :uhh: :uhh: :uhh:
Title: Re: Not 500 people
Post by: fedswatchin on June 19, 2017, 12:16:30 PM
That's so sad
Title: Re: Not 500 people
Post by: FlowerBomb on June 19, 2017, 12:19:43 PM
Today the list is 79 confirmed dead or missing and everyone that's in hospital is accounted for :uhh:
Really scary
Title: Re: Not 500 people
Post by: GLOCK on June 19, 2017, 12:20:18 PM
Damn
Title: Re: Not 500 people
Post by: GRAND on June 19, 2017, 12:20:42 PM
eeek

wtf

not sending food
Title: Re: Not 500 people
Post by: FlowerBomb on June 19, 2017, 12:21:06 PM
https://twitter.com/gaurangmorjaria/status/876595825257963522

omgggggggg
Title: Re: Not 500 people
Post by: 'ology on June 19, 2017, 12:21:28 PM
Wtf is going on 'cross the pond!
Title: Re: Not 500 people
Post by: FlowerBomb on June 19, 2017, 12:22:10 PM
& this is largley muslim community
Title: Re: Not 500 people
Post by: fedswatchin on June 19, 2017, 12:24:23 PM
To think that someone would intentionally light the flame on this entire complex is so fucked up
Title: Re: Not 500 people
Post by: GLOCK on June 19, 2017, 12:25:03 PM
Is Isis behind this?
Title: Re: Not 500 people
Post by: Gilgamesh. on June 19, 2017, 12:25:31 PM
So are the bodies still inside? :everythingok:
Title: Re: Not 500 people
Post by: FlowerBomb on June 19, 2017, 12:26:09 PM
Quote from: Same Ol' G on June 19, 2017, 12:25:03 PM
Is Isis behind this?
There was a woman a few days ago on the news that said a lot of people in their community felt as though it was a revenge attack for all the mess that's been going on the past few months
Title: Re: Not 500 people
Post by: GLOCK on June 19, 2017, 12:29:21 PM
Quote from: Jayden on June 19, 2017, 12:26:09 PM
Quote from: Same Ol' G on June 19, 2017, 12:25:03 PM
Is Isis behind this?
There was a woman a few days ago on the news that said a lot of people in their community felt as though it was a revenge attack for all the mess that's been going on the past few months
damn Isis really has it out for you girls!
I pray that y'all pull thru and someone finds them smh
Title: Re: Not 500 people
Post by: FlowerBomb on June 19, 2017, 12:35:33 PM
Documents being shredded, information on the building structure being deleted from contractors websites, donated food and items going missing, people being re-located OUTSIDE of the city....
:gorlonfire: :gorlonfire: :gorlonfire: :gorlonfire:
Title: Re: Not 500 people
Post by: FlowerBomb on June 19, 2017, 12:39:05 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh. on June 19, 2017, 12:25:31 PM
So are the bodies still inside? :everythingok:
someone said they are basically cremated and they'll never really know how many were still in the building.
Title: Re: Not 500 people missing
Post by: Palladium on June 19, 2017, 12:43:07 PM
WTF is really going on?

:omgwatshappening:
Title: Re: Not 500 people missing
Post by: BAPHOMET. on June 19, 2017, 12:45:42 PM
 
Quote from: Jayden on June 19, 2017, 12:39:05 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh. on June 19, 2017, 12:25:31 PM
So are the bodies still inside? :everythingok:
someone said they are basically cremated and they'll never really know how many were still in the building.

:-(
Title: Re: Not 500 people
Post by: BrokenHeartsHeal on June 19, 2017, 02:33:28 PM
Quote from: Same Ol' G on June 19, 2017, 12:25:03 PM
Is Isis behind this?

it was a cracker that did this. this and the damn van that mowed the muslim gorls the other day

Title: Re: Not 500 people missing
Post by: BrokenHeartsHeal on June 19, 2017, 03:14:19 PM
where the full interview. I wanna know what she was saying at the end, it was too enlightening.
Title: Re: Not 500 people missing
Post by: Eternal Bell on June 19, 2017, 03:54:41 PM
 :diddraispoot:
Title: Re: Not 500 people missing
Post by: FlowerBomb on June 19, 2017, 04:10:46 PM
(http://i1.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article10643125.ece/ALTERNATES/s810/Grenfell-Tower-fire-London-UK-14-Jun-2017.jpg)
I couldn't imagine
Title: Re: Not 500 people missing
Post by: FlowerBomb on June 19, 2017, 04:13:37 PM
QuoteTwo women feared dead in the Grenfell Tower blaze were allegedly threatened with legal action after raising fears over fire safety.

Mariem Elgwahry, 27, and mother-of-three Nadia Choucair, 33, were reportedly sent letters ordering them to stop a campaign for improved safety

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/two-women-feared-dead-in-grenfell-tower-blaze-threatened-with-legal-action-over-fire-safety-concerns-a3567636.html  :uhh:
Title: Re: Not 500 people missing
Post by: GLOCK on June 19, 2017, 04:30:09 PM
not them saying on 17 ppl when the damn flames reached the damn top of the mess :uhh:
Title: Re: Not 500 people missing
Post by: GLOCK on June 19, 2017, 04:30:53 PM
Quote from: Jayden on June 19, 2017, 04:13:37 PM
QuoteTwo women feared dead in the Grenfell Tower blaze were allegedly threatened with legal action after raising fears over fire safety.

Mariem Elgwahry, 27, and mother-of-three Nadia Choucair, 33, were reportedly sent letters ordering them to stop a campaign for improved safety

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/two-women-feared-dead-in-grenfell-tower-blaze-threatened-with-legal-action-over-fire-safety-concerns-a3567636.html  :uhh:
wtf is going on  :uhh:
Title: Re: Not 500 people missing
Post by: GLOCK on June 19, 2017, 04:31:09 PM
not them getting booked for tryna make a difference
Title: Re: Not 500 people missing
Post by: FlowerBomb on June 19, 2017, 04:37:09 PM
Quote from: Same Ol' G on June 19, 2017, 04:30:09 PM
not them saying on 17 ppl when the damn flames reached the damn top of the mess :uhh:
!!!
A lot of undocumented illegal immigrants were living there too
so either they've been burnt to cinders and no one knows who they were or can tell or they've fled from the authorities
Title: Re: Not 500 people missing
Post by: GLOCK on June 19, 2017, 04:40:36 PM
Quote from: Jayden on June 19, 2017, 04:37:09 PM
Quote from: Same Ol' G on June 19, 2017, 04:30:09 PM
not them saying on 17 ppl when the damn flames reached the damn top of the mess :uhh:
!!!
A lot of undocumented illegal immigrants were living there too
so either they've been burnt to cinders and no one knows who they were or can tell or they've fled from the authorities
this is eerie..

house of missing bodies  :uhh:
Title: Re: Not 500 people missing
Post by: FlowerBomb on June 19, 2017, 04:57:07 PM
glock i hate u ggggggggggg
Title: Re: Not 500 people missing
Post by: CHOKE on June 19, 2017, 05:51:45 PM
I love mysteries like this

I wonder what happened to them

Title: Re: Not 500 people missing
Post by: GRAND on June 19, 2017, 05:55:35 PM
Quote from: Cho-Ku on June 19, 2017, 05:51:45 PM
I love mysteries like this

I wonder what happened to them
burned alive hun
Title: Re: Not 500 people
Post by: Lane Bryant Jumpsuit on June 19, 2017, 05:55:47 PM
Quote from: Jayden on June 19, 2017, 12:39:05 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh. on June 19, 2017, 12:25:31 PM
So are the bodies still inside? :everythingok:
someone said they are basically cremated and they'll never really know how many were still in the building.

what about the teeth?
Title: Re: Not 500 people
Post by: FlowerBomb on June 19, 2017, 06:02:15 PM
Quote from: TheNextLew on June 19, 2017, 05:55:47 PM
Quote from: Jayden on June 19, 2017, 12:39:05 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh. on June 19, 2017, 12:25:31 PM
So are the bodies still inside? :everythingok:
someone said they are basically cremated and they'll never really know how many were still in the building.

what about the teeth?
apparently of lot of these dead and missing people were undocumented illegal immigrants so there wouldn't be any records
Title: Re: Not 500 people missing
Post by: FlowerBomb on June 19, 2017, 06:15:44 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DCh3WPrXsAAUATY.jpg)
Title: Re: Not 500 people missing
Post by: BAPHOMET. on June 19, 2017, 06:16:34 PM
Quote from: Jayden on June 19, 2017, 04:10:46 PM
(http://i1.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article10643125.ece/ALTERNATES/s810/Grenfell-Tower-fire-London-UK-14-Jun-2017.jpg)
I couldn't imagine

this damn Inferno Tower. rip to them all.
Title: Re: Not 500 people missing
Post by: BrokenHeartsHeal on June 19, 2017, 06:34:29 PM
Quote from: Cho-Ku on June 19, 2017, 05:51:45 PM
I love mysteries like this

I wonder what happened to them

:uhh: is this a live action documentary to you?
Title: Re: Not 500 people missing
Post by: XXX. on June 19, 2017, 06:35:30 PM
This is so crazy! Gives me 9/11 DOWN. 

Sleigh was telling me that they purposely set this on fire trying to get poor people out of the area or something.

The media is so corrupt.  They only cover what they're told.
Title: Re: Not 500 people missing
Post by: FlowerBomb on June 19, 2017, 06:39:55 PM
Quote from: CAKE. on June 19, 2017, 06:35:30 PM
This is so crazy! Gives me 9/11 DOWN. 

Sleigh was telling me that they purposely set this on fire trying to get poor people out of the area or something.

The media is so corrupt.  They only cover what they're told.
!!!!
Gentrification
That particular borough is one of the richest in London and properties are being snapped up by the Russian and Chinese billionaires.
The tenants were complaining about the council always talking about cuts and savings but it just came out today they have been sitting on ?300 million :uhh:
The flats next to the one that burnt out are multi-million pound properties, add to the fact they are working class and mostly brown people...
Title: Re: Not 500 people missing
Post by: BrokenHeartsHeal on June 19, 2017, 06:44:26 PM
Quote from: CAKE. on June 19, 2017, 06:35:30 PM
This is so crazy! Gives me 9/11 DOWN. 

Sleigh was telling me that they purposely set this on fire trying to get poor people out of the area or something.

The media is so corrupt.  They only cover what they're told.

More like The Bronx is burning
Title: Re: Not 500 people missing
Post by: XXX. on June 19, 2017, 06:46:41 PM
Quote from: Khoi Zan on June 19, 2017, 06:41:20 PM
500 people missing? How is that even possible...the building doesn't seem THAT huge


You ok?

The loft I live in has 50 units.  First floor has some studios & 1 bedrooms.  The 2nd and 3rd floors have 2,3 & 4 bedroom units.  So, if you just estimated 50 units at 2 people per unit, that's 100 people.

This is a damn TOWER.  There's 500+ people in there easy.
Title: Re: Not 500 people missing
Post by: XXX. on June 19, 2017, 06:49:43 PM
Quote from: Jayden on June 19, 2017, 06:39:55 PM
Quote from: CAKE. on June 19, 2017, 06:35:30 PM
This is so crazy! Gives me 9/11 DOWN. 

Sleigh was telling me that they purposely set this on fire trying to get poor people out of the area or something.

The media is so corrupt.  They only cover what they're told.
!!!!
Gentrification
That particular borough is one of the richest in London and properties are being snapped up by the Russian and Chinese billionaires.
The tenants were complaining about the council always talking about cuts and savings but it just came out today they have been sitting on ?300 million :uhh:
The flats next to the one that burnt out are multi-million pound properties, add to the fact they are working class and mostly brown people...

That's exactly what Sleigh was telling me. 

The borough has become the richest in London and that tower was like an eye sore full of poor brown people.

Really sad. 

Title: Re: Not 500 people missing
Post by: fedswatchin on June 19, 2017, 06:51:33 PM
Quote from: Jayden on June 19, 2017, 06:15:44 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DCh3WPrXsAAUATY.jpg)
now see
Title: Re: Not 500 people missing
Post by: XXX. on June 19, 2017, 06:53:34 PM
Quote from: Khoi Zan on June 19, 2017, 06:50:04 PM
I'm fine, I just like to check things when they seem a little off.

This seems to be some sort of conspiracy theory as opposed to something that government officials are reporting/confirming:

http://yournewswire.com/500-dead-grenfell-tower-fire/

It just doesn't make sense. 500 people missing from a building that size?

I think 500 people missing is probably a reach.

But even the link you posted said the tower is home to about 600 people.

So, it seemed to have housed that many.
Title: Re: Not 500 people missing
Post by: FlowerBomb on June 19, 2017, 06:55:09 PM
Quote from: Khoi Zan on June 19, 2017, 06:51:21 PM
And it's not about me being in disbelief that a building that size can actually HOUSE 500 people. It's just questioning the chance that the majority of people in the building would be missing.
People are forgetting that it's Ramadan
A lot of people were up and awake at 12-1am and cooking just before their fasts started and a lot of people were visiting as well for prayers
Whole families were wiped out as well as groups of illegal immigrants living in the tower
these are all things said by the people who live in the area, groups of Filipino and Ethiopian families haven't been seen since then
Title: Re: Not 500 people missing
Post by: XXX. on June 19, 2017, 06:55:33 PM
Quote from: Khoi Zan on June 19, 2017, 06:54:16 PM
Quote from: CAKE. on June 19, 2017, 06:53:34 PM
Quote from: Khoi Zan on June 19, 2017, 06:50:04 PM
I'm fine, I just like to check things when they seem a little off.

This seems to be some sort of conspiracy theory as opposed to something that government officials are reporting/confirming:

http://yournewswire.com/500-dead-grenfell-tower-fire/

It just doesn't make sense. 500 people missing from a building that size?

But even the link you posted said the tower is home to about 600 people.

So, it seemed to have housed that many.
Read my next post hun.

Don't get sassy, babe.

And watch your mouth.
Title: Re: Not 500 people missing
Post by: FlowerBomb on June 19, 2017, 06:58:51 PM
Quote from: Khoi Zan on June 19, 2017, 06:57:36 PM
Quote from: Jayden on June 19, 2017, 06:55:09 PM
Quote from: Khoi Zan on June 19, 2017, 06:51:21 PM
And it's not about me being in disbelief that a building that size can actually HOUSE 500 people. It's just questioning the chance that the majority of people in the building would be missing.
People are forgetting that it's Ramadan
A lot of people were up and awake at 12-1am and cooking just before their fasts started and a lot of people were visiting as well for prayers
Whole families were wiped out as well as groups of illegal immigrants living in the tower
these are all things said by the people who live in the area, groups of Filipino and Ethiopian families haven't been seen since then
I'm not saying it's  definitely 100% wrong, but I will say that I wasn't surprised when I found it was a theory once I went to fact check a bit.
I know 500 is a reach but it makes more sense than the official number they were touting
Title: Re: Not 500 people missing
Post by: XXX. on June 19, 2017, 07:08:32 PM
Quote from: Khoi Zan on June 19, 2017, 07:05:50 PM
Quote from: Jayden on June 19, 2017, 06:58:51 PM
Quote from: Khoi Zan on June 19, 2017, 06:57:36 PM
Quote from: Jayden on June 19, 2017, 06:55:09 PM
Quote from: Khoi Zan on June 19, 2017, 06:51:21 PM
And it's not about me being in disbelief that a building that size can actually HOUSE 500 people. It's just questioning the chance that the majority of people in the building would be missing.
People are forgetting that it's Ramadan
A lot of people were up and awake at 12-1am and cooking just before their fasts started and a lot of people were visiting as well for prayers
Whole families were wiped out as well as groups of illegal immigrants living in the tower
these are all things said by the people who live in the area, groups of Filipino and Ethiopian families haven't been seen since then
I'm not saying it's  definitely 100% wrong, but I will say that I wasn't surprised when I found it was a theory once I went to fact check a bit.
I know 500 is a reach but it makes more sense than the official number they were touting
I just try to stay away from theories when it comes to stuff like this. So many people try to do the same thing with 9/11.

Are we sure it was a plane?  :plea:
I saw President Bush kicking at tower 1's foundation to make sure it fell down! :guys:


Only reason I went to check was because you didn't give a disclaimer mess. :plzstop:
I thought it was an actual report but just had my doubts.

Otherwise, yeah the world's fucked up so I am not surprised when people assume the worst about their leaders/government.

Do you not believe that 9/11 was planned by our government?
Title: Re: Not 500 people missing
Post by: XXX. on June 19, 2017, 07:24:54 PM
Quote from: Khoi Zan on June 19, 2017, 07:17:34 PM
Quote from: CAKE. on June 19, 2017, 07:08:32 PM
Quote from: Khoi Zan on June 19, 2017, 07:05:50 PM
Quote from: Jayden on June 19, 2017, 06:58:51 PM
Quote from: Khoi Zan on June 19, 2017, 06:57:36 PM
Quote from: Jayden on June 19, 2017, 06:55:09 PM
Quote from: Khoi Zan on June 19, 2017, 06:51:21 PM
And it's not about me being in disbelief that a building that size can actually HOUSE 500 people. It's just questioning the chance that the majority of people in the building would be missing.
People are forgetting that it's Ramadan
A lot of people were up and awake at 12-1am and cooking just before their fasts started and a lot of people were visiting as well for prayers
Whole families were wiped out as well as groups of illegal immigrants living in the tower
these are all things said by the people who live in the area, groups of Filipino and Ethiopian families haven't been seen since then
I'm not saying it's  definitely 100% wrong, but I will say that I wasn't surprised when I found it was a theory once I went to fact check a bit.
I know 500 is a reach but it makes more sense than the official number they were touting
I just try to stay away from theories when it comes to stuff like this. So many people try to do the same thing with 9/11.

Are we sure it was a plane?  :plea:
I saw President Bush kicking at tower 1's foundation to make sure it fell down! :guys:


Only reason I went to check was because you didn't give a disclaimer mess. :plzstop:
I thought it was an actual report but just had my doubts.

Otherwise, yeah the world's fucked up so I am not surprised when people assume the worst about their leaders/government.

Do you not believe that 9/11 was planned by our government?
I just don't get into theories, luv.

For me it's about the tragedy itself - the lives that were lost. How scared I was as a child not even knowing what the hell was going on in what was supposed to have been a regular day at school. Not being able to quickly make it back home because all of the buses that were being taken out of Queens to Manhattan to help....losing my sense of security as a New Yorker, and, realizing how fucked up this world is.

If our government was behind this, they'll never admit it and we'll never know because there's one thing America is great at doing - and that's sweeping mess under a rug. Wouldn't put it past them but I don't subscribe to what I don't find to be factual. Not saying that our government is just so wonderful that it couldn't have happened - this is the same place that thought enslaving other human beings was fine and dandy. But, I prefer not to dig into a bunch of theories; I choose to focus on what I know to be fact.

That's fair.

It's funny how my knee-jerk reaction is to beat you over the head with indisputable facts about 9/11.  But that's the problem a lot of people have.  Forcing stuff like that on others.

And your stance is a respectable one.
















































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Title: Re: Not 500 people missing
Post by: XXX. on June 19, 2017, 07:29:52 PM
Quote from: Khoi Zan on June 19, 2017, 07:28:45 PM
But I agree. You have people that are so set out to prove their own theories that it almost becomes self indulgent. "Look at me! Smarter than you! I'm up on this, you need to get woke! Eww, you believe the news, you so dumb!  :unsure: :-( I'll pray for you!"

Like hun, sit the hell down somewhere. I'm a Black person in America - we're kinda busy dealing with mess that is blatantly thrown on the table instead of under it, but I'll text you once I have more time for this 9/11 theory session.

:kii:

That's very true, though.  Because I literally felt myself wanting to be like that with you. 
Title: Re: Not 500 people missing
Post by: b7 on June 21, 2017, 09:51:22 AM


Mcmcmcmcm bitch

I'm shocked she didn't get fired on this very day
:plzstop:
Title: Re: Not 500 people missing
Post by: b7 on June 21, 2017, 09:56:27 AM

BITCH-a!

Our country is fucking disgusting
:plzstop:
Title: Re: Not 500 people
Post by: Cowgirl on June 21, 2017, 10:14:13 AM
Quote from: Jayden on June 19, 2017, 12:39:05 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh. on June 19, 2017, 12:25:31 PM
So are the bodies still inside? :everythingok:
someone said they are basically cremated and they'll never really know how many were still in the building.
:'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Not 500 people missing
Post by: Cowgirl on June 21, 2017, 10:19:16 AM
Quote from: 1RIG on June 21, 2017, 09:56:27 AM

BITCH-a!

Our country is fucking disgusting
:plzstop:
The biggest crime scene in the history of the world right? And all the evidence was cleaned up and sent away.



I've never seen this.
:plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:
Title: Re: Not 500 people missing
Post by: b7 on June 21, 2017, 10:21:26 AM
Quote from: BowDown on June 21, 2017, 10:19:16 AM
Quote from: 1RIG on June 21, 2017, 09:56:27 AM

BITCH-a!

Our country is fucking disgusting
:plzstop:
The biggest crime scene in the history of the world right? And all the evidence was cleaned up and sent away.



I've never seen this.
:plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:
cncncncnc
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The view used to be fucking LIT. trust me

Rosie lit that Blonde ass up on the daily
Title: Re: Not 500 people missing
Post by: Cowgirl on June 21, 2017, 10:25:46 AM
Quote from: 1RIG on June 21, 2017, 10:21:26 AM
Quote from: BowDown on June 21, 2017, 10:19:16 AM
Quote from: 1RIG on June 21, 2017, 09:56:27 AM

BITCH-a!

Our country is fucking disgusting
:plzstop:
The biggest crime scene in the history of the world right? And all the evidence was cleaned up and sent away.



I've never seen this.
:plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:
cncncncnc
C
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The view used to be fucking LIT. trust me

Rosie lit that Blonde ass up on the daily
I see. This effortless book all with such a straightface and monotonous tone. Let me settle into some more of these clips.
:plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:
Title: Re: Not 500 people missing
Post by: b7 on June 21, 2017, 10:31:31 AM
Quote from: BowDown on June 21, 2017, 10:25:46 AM
Quote from: 1RIG on June 21, 2017, 10:21:26 AM
Quote from: BowDown on June 21, 2017, 10:19:16 AM
Quote from: 1RIG on June 21, 2017, 09:56:27 AM

BITCH-a!

Our country is fucking disgusting
:plzstop:
The biggest crime scene in the history of the world right? And all the evidence was cleaned up and sent away.



I've never seen this.
:plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:
cncncncnc
C
C
C
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The view used to be fucking LIT. trust me

Rosie lit that Blonde ass up on the daily
I see. This effortless book all with such a straightface and monotonous tone. Let me settle into some more of these clips.
:plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:
please do :kii:

Watch "Rosie's last day on the view" omg
Title: Re: Not 500 people missing
Post by: GLOCK on June 21, 2017, 10:38:26 AM
I sorta stan for Rosie
She was very sweet and nice to Kalief Browder and tried to help me out
Title: Re: Not 500 people missing
Post by: KING BENTLEY. on June 21, 2017, 10:40:02 AM
Quote from: 1RIG on June 21, 2017, 09:56:27 AM

BITCH-a!

Our country is fucking disgusting
:plzstop:
sssssssss

Rosie used to DIG in that ass



And the way she kinda booked Trump before it was a common thing is legendary
Title: Re: Not 500 people missing
Post by: HUGO on June 21, 2017, 10:43:09 AM
Wtf is going on in London :uhh:

No where is fucking safe huh?
Title: Re: Not 500 people missing
Post by: como la whore on June 21, 2017, 10:50:58 AM
Quote from: 1RIG on June 21, 2017, 09:51:22 AM


Mcmcmcmcm bitch

I'm shocked she didn't get fired on this very day
:plzstop:

Elizabeth was always SO clueless and I almost felt bad for her  :plzstop: Rosie was such a smart bitch and would shred her so effortlessly  :plzstop: