If Queen didn't leave us?
https://instagram.com/p/BZM-OSIFsFU/
NO
H
No
His lineup is sickening
Omfff imagine Branica perched on the outter ends
Bran next to Rih
Mo next to Bey
That would be an ELITE mess
Who knows
d
Personally think Aaliyah would've switched over to movies...
here we go
Trinity!
This desperation to find black women that whitev people approve of yuck
Quote from: Kaeli. on September 18, 2017, 11:12:23 PM
Personally think Aaliyah would've switched over to movies...
Yeah The Matrix would've opened doors for her to be in all types of major films... I can see her leading a show on a prime time channel now, something dark thou... music she would've been a female JT, dropping music like every 4 years but really make it somethin special
Is there even a trinity now?
I feel like it's only Bey and Rih really running shit out of the black girls. Who is the 3rd?
Two Eleven Brandy could've been the 3rd girl... I mean no other bitch talent wise stood a chance when she was hungry during that time and if she would've kept going...
:stressed:
I don
Quote from: XXX. on September 18, 2017, 11:25:24 PM
Is there even a trinity now?
I feel like it's only Bey and Rih really running shit out of the black girls. Who is the 3rd?
I don't think we're gonna see another black female superstar for a while.
R&B isn't doing SHIT on top forty radio and Sza and Kehlani aren't that important outside a few pockets of social media.
Quote from: ANIMMAI on September 18, 2017, 11:37:07 PM
I donQuote from: XXX. on September 18, 2017, 11:25:24 PM
Is there even a trinity now?
I feel like it's only Bey and Rih really running shit out of the black girls. Who is the 3rd?
I don't think we're gonna see another black female superstar for a while.
R&B isn't doing SHIT on top forty radio and Sza and Kehlani aren't that important outside a few pockets of social media.
It kinda sucks IMO.
In a way, I feel like we won't see new stars until Beyonce and Rihanna finally peak. They just seem to cover all bases that any girl trying to break in would need.
ddffdfdfd
if SZA could stop fucking lying and pick a story to stick to, get good ass team behind her and some MAJOR deals... maybe.. just maybe.
Ci has all the potential too, especially if she got the right music
Quote from: Baph al Mana. on September 18, 2017, 11:41:02 PM
ddffdfdfd
if SZA could stop fucking lying and pick a story to stick to, get good ass team behind her and some MAJOR deals... maybe.. just maybe.
:kii:
Quote from: ANIMMAI on September 18, 2017, 11:37:07 PM
I donQuote from: XXX. on September 18, 2017, 11:25:24 PM
Is there even a trinity now?
I feel like it's only Bey and Rih really running shit out of the black girls. Who is the 3rd?
I don't think we're gonna see another black female superstar for a while.
R&B isn't doing SHIT on top forty radio and Sza and Kehlani aren't that important outside a few pockets of social media.
For a split second I thought it might be Zendaya.
Then I listened to her music...
The current trinity rather you girls like it or not
(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/26/11/c1/2611c1a4eb16b3821bad51e00e3045f2--rihanna-nicki-minaj-nicki-minaj-art.jpg)
They trash her anyway, what's good.
Quote from: L0NZ. on September 19, 2017, 07:13:15 AM
Quote from: Cho-Ku on September 19, 2017, 05:18:52 AM
rather
what
rath?er
ˈraT͟Hər/Submit
adverb
1.
used to indicate one's preference in a particular matter.
"would you like some wine, or would you rather stick to sherry?"
synonyms: sooner, by preference, preferably, by choice
"I would rather stay home"
2.
to a certain or significant extent or degree.
"she's been behaving rather strangely"
synonyms: quite, a bit, a little, fairly, slightly, somewhat, relatively, to some degree, comparatively; More
The next class will cost you stupid
:ATLcameo:
Quote from: wild enuff 2 tame meh on September 19, 2017, 07:16:41 AM
Quote from: Cho-Ku on September 19, 2017, 05:18:52 AM
The current trinity rather you girls like it or not
(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/26/11/c1/2611c1a4eb16b3821bad51e00e3045f2--rihanna-nicki-minaj-nicki-minaj-art.jpg)
:cmereddy:
(http://cdn.playbuzz.com/cdn/b728cc62-ee9c-4386-827b-8549d9758c81/1b144913-bde8-455f-9759-83f4a506a1a0.jpg)
:ohwow:
not quite hun. are you certified?
Yes
Got my PHD from Bankhead University
:receipts:
now it makes sense
no.
what won't be debated is that Ghan was the STAR of the trinity . she literally was successful in every facet of her career.
that is all i will say. if my fellow CAP queen didn't die she would be underappreciated in today's times like the rest of the trinity and that is all i will say.
Quote from: OwnIt on September 18, 2017, 11:14:23 PM
Trinity!
This desperation to find black women that whitev people approve of yuck
!!!
I liked Aaliyah but I don't think she would've managed to stay relevant until the 2010s with the music. She probably would've switched into acting or being a socialite mess.
No shade but Li would be giving a Cassie tea I think
Very pretty girl but probably more focused on modeling and acting
Quote from: OnikaChrist on September 19, 2017, 08:21:32 AM
Quote from: OwnIt on September 18, 2017, 11:14:23 PM
Trinity!
This desperation to find black women that whitev people approve of yuck
!!!
I liked Aaliyah but I don't think she would've managed to stay relevant until the 2010s with the music.
Well the music she made in 2001 is relevant in 2017 but I respect your opinion.
Quote from: Cho-Ku on September 19, 2017, 08:56:17 AM
No shade but Li would be giving a Cassie tea I think
Very pretty girl but probably more focused on modeling and acting
Cassie barely does either of those things
I really don't understand why it's so hard to imagine that she could've remained relevant in the 2000s and 2010s. Usher, Mary, Mariah, Bey, R. Kelly and others have successfully done it. Hell, Mary and Usher accomplished more in the 2000s than they did in the 90s - Grammy wins, #1 songs, record breaking first week sales, etc. It COULD have been the same with her.
:ummwhat:
Quote from: Marilyn on September 19, 2017, 09:21:24 AM
I really don't understand why it's so hard to imagine that she could've remained relevant in the 2000s and 2010s. Usher, Mary, Mariah, Bey, R. Kelly and others have successfully done it. Hell, Mary and Usher accomplished more in the 2000s than they did in the 90s - Grammy wins, #1 songs, record breaking first week sales, etc. It COULD have been the same with her.
:ummwhat:
!!!!!
Aaliyah was growing, not declining :plzstop:
Her influence today says a lot.
Aaliyah just being a socialite in this day and age please... at most she prolly would've played it smart like Justin Timberlake and had ppl craving another album from her while she did movies
No shade but how well Tinashe is doing with pretty much the same skill set?
A soft voice and dancing just isn't cutting it these days
Sor
Quote from: Cho-Ku on September 19, 2017, 09:42:50 AM
No shade but how well Tinashe is doing with pretty much the same skill set?
A soft voice and dancing just isn't cutting it these days
Sor
well that girl has no memorable or distinct anything about her
Aa at least had her own vibe
which everyones kinda into these days
Quote from: Cho-Ku on September 19, 2017, 09:42:50 AM
No shade but how well Tinashe is doing with pretty much the same skill set?
A soft voice and dancing just isn't cutting it these days
Sor
This does not make sense.
Quote from: Amir on September 19, 2017, 09:22:25 AM
Quote from: Marilyn on September 19, 2017, 09:21:24 AM
I really don't understand why it's so hard to imagine that she could've remained relevant in the 2000s and 2010s. Usher, Mary, Mariah, Bey, R. Kelly and others have successfully done it. Hell, Mary and Usher accomplished more in the 2000s than they did in the 90s - Grammy wins, #1 songs, record breaking first week sales, etc. It COULD have been the same with her.
:ummwhat:
!!!!!
Aaliyah was growing, not declining :plzstop:
Her influence today says a lot.
b
Quote from: MARS. on September 19, 2017, 10:00:43 AM
Quote from: Amir on September 19, 2017, 09:22:25 AM
Quote from: Marilyn on September 19, 2017, 09:21:24 AM
I really don't understand why it's so hard to imagine that she could've remained relevant in the 2000s and 2010s. Usher, Mary, Mariah, Bey, R. Kelly and others have successfully done it. Hell, Mary and Usher accomplished more in the 2000s than they did in the 90s - Grammy wins, #1 songs, record breaking first week sales, etc. It COULD have been the same with her.
:ummwhat:
!!!!!
Aaliyah was growing, not declining :plzstop:
Her influence today says a lot.
b
?
I think xfinit
Quote from: Amir on September 19, 2017, 10:04:44 AM
Quote from: MARS. on September 19, 2017, 10:00:43 AM
Quote from: Amir on September 19, 2017, 09:22:25 AM
Quote from: Marilyn on September 19, 2017, 09:21:24 AM
I really don't understand why it's so hard to imagine that she could've remained relevant in the 2000s and 2010s. Usher, Mary, Mariah, Bey, R. Kelly and others have successfully done it. Hell, Mary and Usher accomplished more in the 2000s than they did in the 90s - Grammy wins, #1 songs, record breaking first week sales, etc. It COULD have been the same with her.
:ummwhat:
!!!!!
Aaliyah was growing, not declining :plzstop:
Her influence today says a lot.
b
?
I think xfinity booked her mid sentence.
Quote from: Harlem on September 19, 2017, 09:34:36 AM
Aaliyah just being a socialite in this day and age please... at most she prolly would've played it smart like Justin Timberlake and had ppl craving another album from her while she did movies
nnn
Craving!Unless your name is Beyonce or Rihanna, no one is really craving an album from a female R&B artist these days.
Quote from: Marilyn on September 19, 2017, 09:21:24 AM
I really don't understand why it's so hard to imagine that she could've remained relevant in the 2000s and 2010s. Usher, Mary, Mariah, Bey, R. Kelly and others have successfully done it. Hell, Mary and Usher accomplished more in the 2000s than they did in the 90s - Grammy wins, #1 songs, record breaking first week sales, etc. It COULD have been the same with her.
:ummwhat:
Quote from: OnikaChrist on September 19, 2017, 11:20:04 AM
Quote from: Harlem on September 19, 2017, 09:34:36 AM
Aaliyah just being a socialite in this day and age please... at most she prolly would've played it smart like Justin Timberlake and had ppl craving another album from her while she did movies
nnn
Craving!
Unless your name is Beyonce or Rihanna, no one is really craving an album from a female R&B artist these days.
People are literally craving Brandy. Y'all are so brainwashed. Look outside the box drone.
How the hell do you crave something you get every other year basically
n
Quote from: L0NZ. on September 19, 2017, 11:31:05 AM
Quote from: OnikaChrist on September 19, 2017, 11:20:04 AM
Quote from: Harlem on September 19, 2017, 09:34:36 AM
Aaliyah just being a socialite in this day and age please... at most she prolly would've played it smart like Justin Timberlake and had ppl craving another album from her while she did movies
nnn
Craving!
Unless your name is Beyonce or Rihanna, no one is really craving an album from a female R&B artist these days.
People are literally craving Brandy. Y'all are so brainwashed. Look outside the box drone.
Obviously we crave Brandy because we're hardcore fans of R&B. I'm talking about the general public. If you're a female R&B artist and your name isn't Rih or Bey, the public unfourtunately don't care.
I love all of the following artist I'm about to name, but where exactly is Tinashe, Ciara, Brandy, Monica, etc. on the charts? They just don't care.
:ummwhat:
Quote from: wild enuff 2 tame meh on September 19, 2017, 07:16:41 AM
Quote from: Cho-Ku on September 19, 2017, 05:18:52 AM
The current trinity rather you girls like it or not
(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/26/11/c1/2611c1a4eb16b3821bad51e00e3045f2--rihanna-nicki-minaj-nicki-minaj-art.jpg)
:cmereddy:
:takeallofme:
TBH I could possibly see Li transitioning into doing more things behind the scenes. She was very smart and creative. I could see her eventually getting into directing.
State facts Onika. The general public (white people) only need bout 2 or 3 black girls thriving and popping at a time and the gorls will set them apart, calling them a Trinity like it's special to have white approval. Meanwhile there's a million Selena gomez's and mini Britney's that get even more pop radio airplay and favor.
Quote from: MΛΥDΛΥ on September 19, 2017, 12:12:05 PM
TBH I could possibly see Li transitioning into doing more things behind the scenes. She was very smart and creative. I could see her eventually getting into directing.
Yeah, she definitely could've still been successful in another industry but I don't think she'd still be successful in music today.
Quote from: OwnIt on September 19, 2017, 12:13:02 PM
State facts Onika. The general public (white people) only need bout 2 or 3 black girls thriving and popping at a time and the gorls will set them apart, calling them a Trinity like it's special to have white approval. Meanwhile there's a million Selena gomez's and mini Britney's that get even more pop radio airplay and favor.
!!!
It's a shame but it's the truth. Our black women have to work twice as hard as any white women in the music industry just to see a small amount of success.
Quote from: Young on September 18, 2017, 10:55:03 PM
If Queen didn't leave us?
https://instagram.com/p/BZM-OSIFsFU/
Who knows?
Quote from: Harlem on September 18, 2017, 11:29:40 PM
Two Eleven Brandy could've been the 3rd girl... I mean no other bitch talent wise stood a chance when she was hungry during that time and if she would've kept going...
:stressed:
Please stop with this truth.
:stressed:
No shade but I see Aaliyah in the same boat as Monica and Brandy. Let's not act like that last album was about to flop for points until that tragedy. I love her though. She definitely would have benefited being out today.
God rest her soul.
You can tell an album is gonna flop a month after its release?
Y'all and these popular prewritten default statements with no real thought behind. Ch.
Quote from: Margiela. on September 19, 2017, 12:56:53 PM
No shade but I see Aaliyah in the same boat as Monica and Brandy. Let's not act like that last album was about to flop for points until that tragedy. I love her though. She definitely would have benefited being out today.
God rest her soul.
yea. I mean as dope as the music was on the Aaliyah album, most of it
really doesn't sound like chart topping popular stuff
probably would've scanned like Platinum like Full Moon and After the Storm
I've just never seen an artist celebrated so much more after they died than before
Quote from: L0NZ. on September 19, 2017, 01:00:10 PM
You can tell an album is gonna flop a month after its release?
It's my opinion luv and I'm judging based off the sales of the album before her passing. The album fell to #19.
If she were still alive I could see her kinda forcing Brandy to do better earlier than Two Eleven..
Quote from: AYR on September 19, 2017, 01:01:25 PM
Quote from: Margiela. on September 19, 2017, 12:56:53 PM
No shade but I see Aaliyah in the same boat as Monica and Brandy. Let's not act like that last album was about to flop for points until that tragedy. I love her though. She definitely would have benefited being out today.
God rest her soul.
yea. I mean as dope as the music was on the Aaliyah album, most of it
really doesn't sound like chart topping popular stuff
probably would've scanned like Platinum like Full Moon and After the Storm
I've just never seen an artist celebrated so much more after they died than before
Because she was everything
And her death being so close to 9/11 like that
It was just a really crazy time in music
The most beautiful thing walking Earth
Quote from: AYR on September 19, 2017, 01:01:25 PM
Quote from: Margiela. on September 19, 2017, 12:56:53 PM
No shade but I see Aaliyah in the same boat as Monica and Brandy. Let's not act like that last album was about to flop for points until that tragedy. I love her though. She definitely would have benefited being out today.
God rest her soul.
I've just never seen an artist celebrated so much more after they died than before
happens with literally every dead artist tho
Quote from: BowDown on September 19, 2017, 01:06:00 PM
If she were still alive I could see her kinda forcing Brandy to do better earlier than Two Eleven..
like in what ways do u mean
Brandy! Monica!
THOSE 2 aren't even one in the same. Stop acting like one's success or lack thereof is contingent upon the other's, it's not really rational.
Quote from: Kaeli. on September 19, 2017, 01:07:39 PM
Quote from: BowDown on September 19, 2017, 01:06:00 PM
If she were still alive I could see her kinda forcing Brandy to do better earlier than Two Eleven..
like in what ways do u mean
Image-wise, visuals for her music, more consistent sounds..
Not y'all in here really giving this thought. Who knows. What is a fact is that it's only Bey and Rihanna right now.
:calmdownsis:
Quote from: L0NZ. on September 19, 2017, 01:07:44 PM
Brandy! Monica!
THOSE 2 aren't even one in the same. Stop acting like one's success or lack thereof is contingent upon the other's, it's not really rational.
They get so mad about the Branica thing but then wanna LUMP them all together like a packaged deal
3 different girls with their own journey
Although a 3 way tour would have been otherworldly
Quote from: Margiela. on September 19, 2017, 12:56:53 PM
No shade but I see Aaliyah in the same boat as Monica and Brandy. Let's not act like that last album was about to flop for points until that tragedy. I love her though. She definitely would have benefited being out today.
God rest her soul.
it was Gold before she died lol
Quote from: Baph al Mana. on September 19, 2017, 01:14:12 PM
Not y'all in here really giving this thought. Who knows. What is a fact is that it's only Bey and Rihanna right now.
:calmdownsis:
!!!
Trinity!
Get out of the 90s luvs
Quote from: Kaeli. on September 19, 2017, 01:07:39 PM
Quote from: BowDown on September 19, 2017, 01:06:00 PM
If she were still alive I could see her kinda forcing Brandy to do better earlier than Two Eleven..
like in what ways do u mean
friendly competition
Quote from: Kaeli. on September 19, 2017, 01:06:42 PM
Quote from: AYR on September 19, 2017, 01:01:25 PM
Quote from: Margiela. on September 19, 2017, 12:56:53 PM
No shade but I see Aaliyah in the same boat as Monica and Brandy. Let's not act like that last album was about to flop for points until that tragedy. I love her though. She definitely would have benefited being out today.
God rest her soul.
I've just never seen an artist celebrated so much more after they died than before
happens with literally every dead artist tho
He knows that.
And you didn't "see" her celebrated because they way we see celebration now is different than before. In 2001, there were no Twitters, Facebooks, and other social media to SEE fans/stand celebrate anyone. There were no stan battles to fume at. Aaliyah died at the turn of the millennium. The way you're gauging how people "celebrate" her is by all the fans you see showing love on social media. So of course you didn't see it before her death because those channels didnt exist. Aaliyah had a full career by way of people celebrating her in life. She's been gone twice as long as her career lasted, of course the bulk of celebration happened after death.
Quote from: Young on September 19, 2017, 01:15:33 PM
Quote from: L0NZ. on September 19, 2017, 01:07:44 PM
Brandy! Monica!
THOSE 2 aren't even one in the same. Stop acting like one's success or lack thereof is contingent upon the other's, it's not really rational.
They get so mad about the Branica thing but then wanna LUMP them all together like a packaged deal
3 different girls with their own journey
Although a 3 way tour would have been otherworldly
Monica never had a journey.
I wonder how 9/11 would have affected Liy too
She never even went through all the mess we did
So crazy. Almost like she was too precious to even experience the industry change the way it did
Bow shutup
Quote from: AYR on September 19, 2017, 01:01:25 PM
Quote from: Margiela. on September 19, 2017, 12:56:53 PM
No shade but I see Aaliyah in the same boat as Monica and Brandy. Let's not act like that last album was about to flop for points until that tragedy. I love her though. She definitely would have benefited being out today.
God rest her soul.
I've just never seen an artist celebrated so much more after they died than before
are you serious :plzstop:
Quote from: Nine on September 19, 2017, 01:15:56 PM
Quote from: Baph al Mana. on September 19, 2017, 01:14:12 PM
Not y'all in here really giving this thought. Who knows. What is a fact is that it's only Bey and Rihanna right now.
:calmdownsis:
!!!
Trinity!
Get out of the 90s luvs
Okay ! :dead:
Quote from: AYR on September 19, 2017, 01:01:25 PM
Quote from: Margiela. on September 19, 2017, 12:56:53 PM
No shade but I see Aaliyah in the same boat as Monica and Brandy. Let's not act like that last album was about to flop for points until that tragedy. I love her though. She definitely would have benefited being out today.
God rest her soul.
yea. I mean as dope as the music was on the Aaliyah album, most of it
really doesn't sound like chart topping popular stuff
probably would've scanned like Platinum like Full Moon and After the Storm
I've just never seen an artist celebrated so much more after they died than before
I see this on both sides.
The album was falling fairly quickly prior to her death, but it also only ended up selling around 2 million. And that wasn't THAT much for 2001. So, the whole, "Everything became so overrated when she died!" isn't that strong of an argument when specifically talking about this album, because it's not like the album went on to sell 10 million or something. She only stayed in the top 10 3 more weeks after her death. Granted, hovering in the 20's for weeks was probably an easy 50k/weekly, because sales were so good back then. And I won't say there wasn't an obvious sales increase post-death, but I think people tend to lay that on thick.
Aaliyah (Album) Chart Run:
2-5-17-25-27-
19-1-3-10-21-22-23-22-20-23-29-37-51-51-54-58-59One thing is for sure, the album is amazing.
And I don't think an album's performance is indicative of what a career would have been. People tend to use this album's Billboard performance as leverage over her career. It's not like Aaliyah was ever pulling Alicia Keys numbers, and she was still winning VMAs over the white girls AND starring in films.
I can't say for sure where her career would have gone (who can?), but I don't think the last album really points to anything other than she was ahead of the curve musically.
Quote from: Kaeli. on September 19, 2017, 01:06:42 PM
Quote from: AYR on September 19, 2017, 01:01:25 PM
Quote from: Margiela. on September 19, 2017, 12:56:53 PM
No shade but I see Aaliyah in the same boat as Monica and Brandy. Let's not act like that last album was about to flop for points until that tragedy. I love her though. She definitely would have benefited being out today.
God rest her soul.
I've just never seen an artist celebrated so much more after they died than before
happens with literally every dead artist tho
no it doesn't usually its like Whitney/ Michael where they were already huge in life or like Natalie Cole/Donna Summer where some ppl are like sad for a week
with Aaliyah it's like history has been completely changed
Aaliyah was the biggest female R&B artist in the 90s, she could stop Bey, Ashanti, Ciara etc
She was this huge movie star slated to star in every movie
When I was young and she was alive she was just kinda "there"
not that huge but not a flop
Age Ain't... was like Gold and OIAM was 2x Platinum
The way ppl act like she RULED the industry and would still be going is just weird to me
Quote from: XXX. on September 19, 2017, 01:27:12 PM
Quote from: AYR on September 19, 2017, 01:01:25 PM
Quote from: Margiela. on September 19, 2017, 12:56:53 PM
No shade but I see Aaliyah in the same boat as Monica and Brandy. Let's not act like that last album was about to flop for points until that tragedy. I love her though. She definitely would have benefited being out today.
God rest her soul.
yea. I mean as dope as the music was on the Aaliyah album, most of it
really doesn't sound like chart topping popular stuff
probably would've scanned like Platinum like Full Moon and After the Storm
I've just never seen an artist celebrated so much more after they died than before
I see this on both sides.
The album was falling fairly quickly prior to her death, but it also only ended up selling around 2 million. And that wasn't THAT much for 2001. So, the whole, "Everything became so overrated when she died!" isn't that strong of an argument when specifically talking about this album, because it's not like the album went on to sell 10 million or something. She only stayed in the top 10 3 more weeks after her death. Granted, hovering in the 20's for weeks was probably an easy 50k/weekly, because sales were so good back then. And I won't say there wasn't an obvious sales increase post-death, but I think people tend to lay that on thick.
Aaliyah (Album) Chart Run:
2-5-17-25-27-19-1-3-10-21-22-23-22-20-23-29-37-51-51-54-58-59
One thing is for sure, the album is amazing.
And I don't think an album's performance is indicative of what a career would have been. People tend to use this album's Billboard performance as leverage over her career. It's not like Aaliyah was ever pulling Alicia Keys numbers, and she was still winning VMAs over the white girls AND starring in films.
I can't say for sure where her career would have gone (who can?), but I don't think the last album really points to anything other than she was ahead of the curve musically.
wow this thoughtful opinion.
Why are you taking that to heart and not with a grain of salt Ray. Every artist has delusional fans.
Quote from: AYR on September 19, 2017, 01:38:17 PM
Quote from: Kaeli. on September 19, 2017, 01:06:42 PM
Quote from: AYR on September 19, 2017, 01:01:25 PM
Quote from: Margiela. on September 19, 2017, 12:56:53 PM
No shade but I see Aaliyah in the same boat as Monica and Brandy. Let's not act like that last album was about to flop for points until that tragedy. I love her though. She definitely would have benefited being out today.
God rest her soul.
I've just never seen an artist celebrated so much more after they died than before
happens with literally every dead artist tho
no it doesn't usually its like Whitney/ Michael where they were already huge in life or like Natalie Cole/Donna Summer where some ppl are like sad for a week
with Aaliyah it's like history has been completely changed
Aaliyah was the biggest female R&B artist in the 90s, she could stop Bey, Ashanti, Ciara etc
She was this huge movie star slated to star in every movie
When I was young and she was alive she was just kinda "there"
not that huge but not a flop
Age Ain't... was like Gold and OIAM was 2x Platinum
The way ppl act like she RULED the industry and would still be going is just weird to me
this exaggeration
He's really not exaggerating tho
Age Ain't was only gold
:omgwatshappening:
It's def sprinkled with exaggeration.
It's not even just stans
Like everytime Billboard or Rolling Stone etc in the media does like
top R&B artist of the 90s or whatever, Aaliyah is always top 10
while Brandy is like in the 20s somewhere
and why does she have a biopic before Brandy, Mary, Usher, DC etc?
she was literally out between 93-01 that's 8 years.
I'm seriously not trying to hate, or downplay her greatness and legacy
but how can no one see how excessive her praise is?
I agree with ray.
Quote from: AYR on September 19, 2017, 01:38:17 PM
Quote from: Kaeli. on September 19, 2017, 01:06:42 PM
Quote from: AYR on September 19, 2017, 01:01:25 PM
Quote from: Margiela. on September 19, 2017, 12:56:53 PM
No shade but I see Aaliyah in the same boat as Monica and Brandy. Let's not act like that last album was about to flop for points until that tragedy. I love her though. She definitely would have benefited being out today.
God rest her soul.
I've just never seen an artist celebrated so much more after they died than before
happens with literally every dead artist tho
no it doesn't usually its like Whitney/ Michael where they were already huge in life or like Natalie Cole/Donna Summer where some ppl are like sad for a week
with Aaliyah it's like history has been completely changed
Aaliyah was the biggest female R&B artist in the 90s, she could stop Bey, Ashanti, Ciara etc
She was this huge movie star slated to star in every movie
When I was young and she was alive she was just kinda "there"
not that huge but not a flop
Age Ain't... was like Gold and OIAM was 2x Platinum
The way ppl act like she RULED the industry and would still be going is just weird to me
She was evolving Ray
And was growing and becoming a force in more than just music
She really was starting her reign
That's like someone saying If Rih left us at the start of her 3rd album she'd not have grown and become who she is today
I think truly Liy was headed on that path
Idk if you can put a limit on how much praise she gets, but I agree that she wasn't the hugest star. Still, her impact is undeniable
Quote from: AYR on September 19, 2017, 01:50:51 PM
It's not even just stans
Like everytime Billboard or Rolling Stone etc in the media does like
top R&B artist of the 90s or whatever, Aaliyah is always top 10
while Brandy is like in the 20s somewhere
and why does she have a biopic before Brandy, Mary, Usher, DC etc?
she was literally out between 93-01 that's 8 years.
I'm seriously not trying to hate, or downplay her greatness and legacy
but how can no one see how excessive her praise is?
valid points here
huge movie star! like nobody says that. If anything, people list movies she was gonna be in, which is a list factually, in response to someone claiming she wasn't shit or was just "there."
Quote from: Young on September 19, 2017, 01:51:56 PM
Quote from: AYR on September 19, 2017, 01:38:17 PM
Quote from: Kaeli. on September 19, 2017, 01:06:42 PM
Quote from: AYR on September 19, 2017, 01:01:25 PM
Quote from: Margiela. on September 19, 2017, 12:56:53 PM
No shade but I see Aaliyah in the same boat as Monica and Brandy. Let's not act like that last album was about to flop for points until that tragedy. I love her though. She definitely would have benefited being out today.
God rest her soul.
I've just never seen an artist celebrated so much more after they died than before
happens with literally every dead artist tho
no it doesn't usually its like Whitney/ Michael where they were already huge in life or like Natalie Cole/Donna Summer where some ppl are like sad for a week
with Aaliyah it's like history has been completely changed
Aaliyah was the biggest female R&B artist in the 90s, she could stop Bey, Ashanti, Ciara etc
She was this huge movie star slated to star in every movie
When I was young and she was alive she was just kinda "there"
not that huge but not a flop
Age Ain't... was like Gold and OIAM was 2x Platinum
The way ppl act like she RULED the industry and would still be going is just weird to me
She was evolving Ray
And was growing and becoming a force in more than just music
She really was starting her reign
That's like someone saying If Rih left us at the start of her 3rd album she'd not have grown and become who she is today
I think truly Liy was headed on that path
n
This thread is about to take a turn
Quote from: AYR on September 19, 2017, 01:50:51 PM
It's not even just stans
Like everytime Billboard or Rolling Stone etc in the media does like
top R&B artist of the 90s or whatever, Aaliyah is always top 10
while Brandy is like in the 20s somewhere
and why does she have a biopic before Brandy, Mary, Usher, DC etc?
she was literally out between 93-01 that's 8 years.
I'm seriously not trying to hate, or downplay her greatness and legacy
but how can no one see how excessive her praise is?
you just sounds salty tbh
Quote from: MARS. on September 19, 2017, 01:49:23 PM
Age Ain't was only gold
:omgwatshappening:
No. It was platinum. It sold 1.4 million
Quote from: L0NZ. on September 19, 2017, 01:52:55 PM
huge movie star! like nobody says that. If anything, people list movies she was gonna be in, which is a list factually, in response to someone claiming she wasn't shit or was just "there."
!!!!
Please quote a post where any of the stans called her a huge movie star :dead:
Quote from: MΛΥDΛΥ on September 19, 2017, 01:53:15 PM
This thread is about to take a turn
!!!
Something's brewing
(https://i.imgur.com/8Gnbu7A.gif)
Quote from: Amir on September 19, 2017, 01:53:43 PM
Quote from: AYR on September 19, 2017, 01:50:51 PM
It's not even just stans
Like everytime Billboard or Rolling Stone etc in the media does like
top R&B artist of the 90s or whatever, Aaliyah is always top 10
while Brandy is like in the 20s somewhere
and why does she have a biopic before Brandy, Mary, Usher, DC etc?
she was literally out between 93-01 that's 8 years.
I'm seriously not trying to hate, or downplay her greatness and legacy
but how can no one see how excessive her praise is?
you just sounds salty tbh
!!!
And that's NO shade Bro
Does it have something to do with Mya?
Quote from: Young on September 19, 2017, 01:55:13 PM
Quote from: Amir on September 19, 2017, 01:53:43 PM
Quote from: AYR on September 19, 2017, 01:50:51 PM
It's not even just stans
Like everytime Billboard or Rolling Stone etc in the media does like
top R&B artist of the 90s or whatever, Aaliyah is always top 10
while Brandy is like in the 20s somewhere
and why does she have a biopic before Brandy, Mary, Usher, DC etc?
she was literally out between 93-01 that's 8 years.
I'm seriously not trying to hate, or downplay her greatness and legacy
but how can no one see how excessive her praise is?
you just sounds salty tbh
!!!
And that's NO shade Bro
Does it have something to do with Mya?
definitely.
:guys:
Mya >>>>>
She was kinda giving the gorls hits and dance moves just like Liy. But she was just boring as hell so no one really cared too too deep
The way she's still inspiring and shitting on shit on now
That's timeless talent
That's a STAR
https://instagram.com/p/BYLZHwXnc0y/
https://instagram.com/p/BYMk0JNg7n4/
Quote from: OwnIt on September 19, 2017, 01:56:37 PM
Mya >>>>>
She was kinda giving the gorls hits and dance moves just like Liy. But she was just boring as hell so no one really cared too too deep
Love Queen Mya
She def' slayed Mon'... i think.
To me, it goes Brandy > Aaliyah >> Monica = Mya tbh
QuoteLike everytime Billboard or Rolling Stone etc in the media does like
top R&B artist of the 90s or whatever, Aaliyah is always top 10
while Brandy is like in the 20s somewhere
Like :uhh: :dead:
Maybe they just like her shit more than Brandys
..I do
:heyddy:
And most of the lists aren't
most successful songs of the 90s' where Brandy would beat her out, but they are
best songs of the 90s where it's all subjective to the writers taste.
Quoteand why does she have a biopic before Brandy, Mary, Usher, DC etc?
Probably because her life was more "scandalous" than the others?
These arguments just sound like your a bit bitter she gets more praise than your faves.
Quote from: OwnIt on September 19, 2017, 01:56:37 PM
Mya >>>>>
She was kinda giving the gorls hits and dance moves just like Liy. But she was just boring as hell so no one really cared too too deep
bybybybybybu
now it's Mya>>!?
Quote from: Lazarus on September 19, 2017, 01:53:45 PM
Quote from: MARS. on September 19, 2017, 01:49:23 PM
Age Ain't was only gold
:omgwatshappening:
No. It was platinum. It sold 1.4 million
it was certified platinum in October of 2001
after being out since 94...
Quote from: Amir on September 19, 2017, 01:58:18 PM
Quote from: OwnIt on September 19, 2017, 01:56:37 PM
Mya >>>>>
She was kinda giving the gorls hits and dance moves just like Liy. But she was just boring as hell so no one really cared too too deep
bybybybybybu now it's Mya>>!?
he's so predictable :dead:
Quote from: Amir on September 19, 2017, 01:58:18 PM
Quote from: OwnIt on September 19, 2017, 01:56:37 PM
Mya >>>>>
She was kinda giving the gorls hits and dance moves just like Liy. But she was just boring as hell so no one really cared too too deep
bybybybybybu now it's Mya>>!?
I just
Quote from: AYR on September 19, 2017, 01:58:54 PM
Quote from: Lazarus on September 19, 2017, 01:53:45 PM
Quote from: MARS. on September 19, 2017, 01:49:23 PM
Age Ain't was only gold
:omgwatshappening:
No. It was platinum. It sold 1.4 million
it was certified platinum in October of 2001
after being out since 94...
it was certified double plat in 2001
Quote from: AYR on September 19, 2017, 01:58:54 PM
Quote from: Lazarus on September 19, 2017, 01:53:45 PM
Quote from: MARS. on September 19, 2017, 01:49:23 PM
Age Ain't was only gold
:omgwatshappening:
No. It was platinum. It sold 1.4 million
it was certified platinum in October of 2001
after being out since 94...
Ray, it was certified 2x platinum in October 2001
Quote from: OwnIt on September 19, 2017, 01:57:43 PM
To me, it goes Brandy > Aaliyah >> Monica = Mya tbh
SDLKHJHJHJHJHJHJHJHJHJHJJ
Quote from: Amir on September 19, 2017, 01:57:46 PM
QuoteLike everytime Billboard or Rolling Stone etc in the media does like
top R&B artist of the 90s or whatever, Aaliyah is always top 10
while Brandy is like in the 20s somewhere
Like :uhh: :dead:
Maybe they just like her shit more than Brandys
..I do
:heyddy:
And most of the lists aren't most successful songs of the 90s' where Brandy would beat her out, but they are best songs of the 90s where it's all subjective to the writers taste.
And the writers might be.......stans.
Don't be salty be a journalist.
Mya is a talented girl with hits. But just like Mon, nothing stands out about her and she's just kinda hangin around without a sound. Brandy and Aaliyah had a sound and a vibe
q
Quote from: Lazarus on September 19, 2017, 02:00:08 PM
Quote from: AYR on September 19, 2017, 01:58:54 PM
Quote from: Lazarus on September 19, 2017, 01:53:45 PM
Quote from: MARS. on September 19, 2017, 01:49:23 PM
Age Ain't was only gold
:omgwatshappening:
No. It was platinum. It sold 1.4 million
it was certified platinum in October of 2001
after being out since 94...
Ray, it was certified 2x platinum in October 2001
How are we writing up paragraphs about excessive praise and can't get the facts straight. This isn't working.
Quote from: Lazarus on September 19, 2017, 02:00:08 PM
Quote from: AYR on September 19, 2017, 01:58:54 PM
Quote from: Lazarus on September 19, 2017, 01:53:45 PM
Quote from: MARS. on September 19, 2017, 01:49:23 PM
Age Ain't was only gold
:omgwatshappening:
No. It was platinum. It sold 1.4 million
it was certified platinum in October of 2001
after being out since 94...
Ray, it was certified 2x platinum in October 2001
I see I was on RIAA and didn't see the little 2x symbol
but I don't see any other cert for it in the site
I know who im ignoring ❤️✨
This is so fucking rich :plzstop:
Quote from: Young on September 19, 2017, 02:02:39 PM
q
Monica NEVER had a sound
You have to admit that sis
(https://i.imgur.com/L0x053l.gif)
The sound and influence of my girls >
Woo lmao
Quote from: AYR on September 19, 2017, 01:50:51 PM
It's not even just stans
Like everytime Billboard or Rolling Stone etc in the media does like
top R&B artist of the 90s or whatever, Aaliyah is always top 10
while Brandy is like in the 20s somewhere
and why does she have a biopic before Brandy, Mary, Usher, DC etc?
she was literally out between 93-01 that's 8 years.
I'm seriously not trying to hate, or downplay her greatness and legacy
but how can no one see how excessive her praise is?
But doesn't that speak more to Aaliyah's musical influence and impact? You just got done saying in a previous post that other artists don't get this much fanfare posthumous, but apparently, she did something during her time living that still has her presence felt today.
Ray, she died at 22. She was young and beautiful. That plays a huge part in the strength of her memory. We never got to see her age, make too many mistakes, or live in a social media world that would have humanized her. Aaliyah died in an era where mystique existed, and stars feeling like Gods was still a thing. We didn't go to TMZ or TheShadeRoom to get the news of her death. We heard it on the radio or by word of mouth. It was just a different time. So, that's still the realm she resides in whether you like it or not.
I think what you're in denial about is her impact on the culture. Whether it's a vocal, production, or outfit, we still reference Aaliyah when we see and hear it in other artists. Racking your brain over sales, stats & years in is apparently irrelevant, because there's no way you can prove she still wouldn't place high on these lists had she not died.
You can't debate her impact, because Aaliyah will win every time.
Quote from: XXX. on September 19, 2017, 02:09:44 PM
Quote from: AYR on September 19, 2017, 01:50:51 PM
It's not even just stans
Like everytime Billboard or Rolling Stone etc in the media does like
top R&B artist of the 90s or whatever, Aaliyah is always top 10
while Brandy is like in the 20s somewhere
and why does she have a biopic before Brandy, Mary, Usher, DC etc?
she was literally out between 93-01 that's 8 years.
I'm seriously not trying to hate, or downplay her greatness and legacy
but how can no one see how excessive her praise is?
But doesn't that speak more to Aaliyah's musical influence and impact? You just got done saying in a previous post that other artists don't get this much fanfare posthumous, but apparently, she did something during her time living that still has her presence felt today.
Ray, she died at 22. She was young and beautiful. That plays a huge part in the strength of her memory. We never got to see her age, make too many mistakes, or live in a social media world that would have humanized her. Aaliyah died in an era where mystique existed, and stars feeling like Gods was still a thing. We didn't go to TMZ or TheShadeRoom to get the news of her death. We heard it on the radio or by word of mouth. It was just a different time. So, that's still the realm she resides in whether you like it or not.
I think what you're in denial about is her impact on the culture. Whether it's a vocal, production, or outfit, we still reference Aaliyah when we see and hear it in other artists. Racking your brain over sales, stats & years in is apparently irrelevant, because there's no way you can prove she still wouldn't place high on these lists had she not died.
You can't debate her impact, because Aaliyah will win every time.
Quote from: XXX. on September 19, 2017, 02:09:44 PM
Quote from: AYR on September 19, 2017, 01:50:51 PM
It's not even just stans
Like everytime Billboard or Rolling Stone etc in the media does like
top R&B artist of the 90s or whatever, Aaliyah is always top 10
while Brandy is like in the 20s somewhere
and why does she have a biopic before Brandy, Mary, Usher, DC etc?
she was literally out between 93-01 that's 8 years.
I'm seriously not trying to hate, or downplay her greatness and legacy
but how can no one see how excessive her praise is?
But doesn't that speak more to Aaliyah's musical influence and impact? You just got done saying in a previous post that other artists don't get this much fanfare posthumous, but apparently, she did something during her time living that still has her presence felt today.
Ray, she died at 22. She was young and beautiful. That plays a huge part in the strength of her memory. We never got to see her age, make too many mistakes, or live in a social media world that would have humanized her. Aaliyah died in an era where mystique existed, and stars feeling like Gods was still a thing. We didn't go to TMZ or TheShadeRoom to get the news of her death. We heard it on the radio or by word of mouth. It was just a different time. So, that's still the realm she resides in whether you like it or not.
I think what you're in denial about is her impact on the culture. Whether it's a vocal, production, or outfit, we still reference Aaliyah when we see and hear it in other artists. Racking your brain over sales, stats & years in is apparently irrelevant, because there's no way you can prove she still wouldn't place high on these lists had she not died.
You can't debate her impact, because Aaliyah will win every time.
:omf: :omf: :omf:
Quote from: Young on September 18, 2017, 10:55:03 PM
If Queen didn't leave us?
https://instagram.com/p/BZM-OSIFsFU/
Guys also I need Brandy and Monica in this
Bran next to Rih
Mon next to Bey
Both on outter ends
Someone draw or find drawings like this
Thanks ❤️
I'll rock it as my sig forever
OK close this
Quote from: XXX. on September 19, 2017, 02:09:44 PM
Quote from: AYR on September 19, 2017, 01:50:51 PM
It's not even just stans
Like everytime Billboard or Rolling Stone etc in the media does like
top R&B artist of the 90s or whatever, Aaliyah is always top 10
while Brandy is like in the 20s somewhere
and why does she have a biopic before Brandy, Mary, Usher, DC etc?
she was literally out between 93-01 that's 8 years.
I'm seriously not trying to hate, or downplay her greatness and legacy
but how can no one see how excessive her praise is?
But doesn't that speak more to Aaliyah's musical influence and impact? You just got done saying in a previous post that other artists don't get this much fanfare posthumous, but apparently, she did something during her time living that still has her presence felt today.
Ray, she died at 22. She was young and beautiful. That plays a huge part in the strength of her memory. We never got to see her age, make too many mistakes, or live in a social media world that would have humanized her. Aaliyah died in an era where mystique existed, and stars feeling like Gods was still a thing. We didn't go to TMZ or TheShadeRoom to get the news of her death. We heard it on the radio or by word of mouth. It was just a different time. So, that's still the realm she resides in whether you like it or not.
I think what you're in denial about is her impact on the culture. Whether it's a vocal, production, or outfit, we still reference Aaliyah when we see and hear it in other artists. Racking your brain over sales, stats & years in is apparently irrelevant, because there's no way you can prove she still wouldn't place high on these lists had she not died.
You can't debate her impact, because Aaliyah will win every time.
I never debated her impact though that's the thing
but then again I just wonder as we all do and no one has the answer
would ppl still be referencing her if she were alive to the level that they are?
It's just all kind of crazy to me, seems like the shock of what happened to her
caused her to be way more highly regarded, impactful etc
than her work itself
Quote from: Amir on September 19, 2017, 01:53:43 PM
Quote from: AYR on September 19, 2017, 01:50:51 PM
It's not even just stans
Like everytime Billboard or Rolling Stone etc in the media does like
top R&B artist of the 90s or whatever, Aaliyah is always top 10
while Brandy is like in the 20s somewhere
and why does she have a biopic before Brandy, Mary, Usher, DC etc?
she was literally out between 93-01 that's 8 years.
I'm seriously not trying to hate, or downplay her greatness and legacy
but how can no one see how excessive her praise is?
you just sounds salty tbh
That what my soul felt, too. I could feel his keyboard short-circuiting from the tears
Her work is exquisite when it's all said and done
Her singles and 3rd album are great
just beautiful music
Quote from: XXX. on September 19, 2017, 02:09:44 PM
Quote from: AYR on September 19, 2017, 01:50:51 PM
It's not even just stans
Like everytime Billboard or Rolling Stone etc in the media does like
top R&B artist of the 90s or whatever, Aaliyah is always top 10
while Brandy is like in the 20s somewhere
and why does she have a biopic before Brandy, Mary, Usher, DC etc?
she was literally out between 93-01 that's 8 years.
I'm seriously not trying to hate, or downplay her greatness and legacy
but how can no one see how excessive her praise is?
Ray, she died at 22. She was young and beautiful. That plays a huge part in the strength of her memory. We never got to see her age, make too many mistakes, or live in a social media world that would have humanized her. Aaliyah died in an era where mystique existed, and stars feeling like Gods was still a thing. We didn't go to TMZ or TheShadeRoom to get the news of her death. We heard it on the radio or by word of mouth. It was just a different time. So, that's still the realm she resides in whether you like it or not.
This is very beautiful.
She always served MUG omfff
https://instagram.com/p/BZFkOrqh51e/
https://instagram.com/p/BYuk68JBKTt/
Quote from: AYR on September 19, 2017, 02:21:39 PM
Quote from: XXX. on September 19, 2017, 02:09:44 PM
Quote from: AYR on September 19, 2017, 01:50:51 PM
It's not even just stans
Like everytime Billboard or Rolling Stone etc in the media does like
top R&B artist of the 90s or whatever, Aaliyah is always top 10
while Brandy is like in the 20s somewhere
and why does she have a biopic before Brandy, Mary, Usher, DC etc?
she was literally out between 93-01 that's 8 years.
I'm seriously not trying to hate, or downplay her greatness and legacy
but how can no one see how excessive her praise is?
But doesn't that speak more to Aaliyah's musical influence and impact? You just got done saying in a previous post that other artists don't get this much fanfare posthumous, but apparently, she did something during her time living that still has her presence felt today.
Ray, she died at 22. She was young and beautiful. That plays a huge part in the strength of her memory. We never got to see her age, make too many mistakes, or live in a social media world that would have humanized her. Aaliyah died in an era where mystique existed, and stars feeling like Gods was still a thing. We didn't go to TMZ or TheShadeRoom to get the news of her death. We heard it on the radio or by word of mouth. It was just a different time. So, that's still the realm she resides in whether you like it or not.
I think what you're in denial about is her impact on the culture. Whether it's a vocal, production, or outfit, we still reference Aaliyah when we see and hear it in other artists. Racking your brain over sales, stats & years in is apparently irrelevant, because there's no way you can prove she still wouldn't place high on these lists had she not died.
You can't debate her impact, because Aaliyah will win every time.
I never debated her impact though that's the thing
but then again I just wonder as we all do and no one has the answer
would ppl still be referencing her if she were alive to the level that they are?
It's just all kind of crazy to me, seems like the shock of what happened to her
caused her to be way more highly regarded, impactful etc
than her work itself
But are you not questioning her impact when asking why she's placed higher on lists than other artists or why she has a film and they don't?
Quote from: XXX. on September 19, 2017, 02:27:55 PM
Quote from: AYR on September 19, 2017, 02:21:39 PM
Quote from: XXX. on September 19, 2017, 02:09:44 PM
Quote from: AYR on September 19, 2017, 01:50:51 PM
It's not even just stans
Like everytime Billboard or Rolling Stone etc in the media does like
top R&B artist of the 90s or whatever, Aaliyah is always top 10
while Brandy is like in the 20s somewhere
and why does she have a biopic before Brandy, Mary, Usher, DC etc?
she was literally out between 93-01 that's 8 years.
I'm seriously not trying to hate, or downplay her greatness and legacy
but how can no one see how excessive her praise is?
But doesn't that speak more to Aaliyah's musical influence and impact? You just got done saying in a previous post that other artists don't get this much fanfare posthumous, but apparently, she did something during her time living that still has her presence felt today.
Ray, she died at 22. She was young and beautiful. That plays a huge part in the strength of her memory. We never got to see her age, make too many mistakes, or live in a social media world that would have humanized her. Aaliyah died in an era where mystique existed, and stars feeling like Gods was still a thing. We didn't go to TMZ or TheShadeRoom to get the news of her death. We heard it on the radio or by word of mouth. It was just a different time. So, that's still the realm she resides in whether you like it or not.
I think what you're in denial about is her impact on the culture. Whether it's a vocal, production, or outfit, we still reference Aaliyah when we see and hear it in other artists. Racking your brain over sales, stats & years in is apparently irrelevant, because there's no way you can prove she still wouldn't place high on these lists had she not died.
You can't debate her impact, because Aaliyah will win every time.
I never debated her impact though that's the thing
but then again I just wonder as we all do and no one has the answer
would ppl still be referencing her if she were alive to the level that they are?
It's just all kind of crazy to me, seems like the shock of what happened to her
caused her to be way more highly regarded, impactful etc
than her work itself
But are you not questioning her impact when asking why she's placed higher on lists than other artists or why she has a film and they don't?
Im moreso questioning why she has the impact for that stuff
not if she actually has it because that's quite obvious
Quote from: L0NZ. on September 19, 2017, 02:25:03 PM
Quote from: XXX. on September 19, 2017, 02:09:44 PM
Quote from: AYR on September 19, 2017, 01:50:51 PM
It's not even just stans
Like everytime Billboard or Rolling Stone etc in the media does like
top R&B artist of the 90s or whatever, Aaliyah is always top 10
while Brandy is like in the 20s somewhere
and why does she have a biopic before Brandy, Mary, Usher, DC etc?
she was literally out between 93-01 that's 8 years.
I'm seriously not trying to hate, or downplay her greatness and legacy
but how can no one see how excessive her praise is?
Ray, she died at 22. She was young and beautiful. That plays a huge part in the strength of her memory. We never got to see her age, make too many mistakes, or live in a social media world that would have humanized her. Aaliyah died in an era where mystique existed, and stars feeling like Gods was still a thing. We didn't go to TMZ or TheShadeRoom to get the news of her death. We heard it on the radio or by word of mouth. It was just a different time. So, that's still the realm she resides in whether you like it or not.
This is very beautiful.
You know what's funny? I have fallen into the same traps Ray is falling in by letting the stan war stuff piss me off. "If Aaliyah was around, there'd be no Beyonce!" and all that mess.
But once you separate all that stuff from the actual artist, Aaliyah's influence and impact is undeniable.
It baffles me how people argue where Aaliyah would be today.
Yall get heated as hell like the woman is alive and well, taking over the industry.
The fact of the matter is, WE WILL NEVER KNOW.
To sit on the net and create a fairytale of what here life and relevance
would be today is asinine af. And Aaliyah was never all that SUPER popular anyway.
She did what she was here to do for the time she was here.
Let that lady rest in peace.
Someone is pissed
Quote from: AYR on September 19, 2017, 02:30:49 PM
Quote from: XXX. on September 19, 2017, 02:27:55 PM
Quote from: AYR on September 19, 2017, 02:21:39 PM
Quote from: XXX. on September 19, 2017, 02:09:44 PM
Quote from: AYR on September 19, 2017, 01:50:51 PM
It's not even just stans
Like everytime Billboard or Rolling Stone etc in the media does like
top R&B artist of the 90s or whatever, Aaliyah is always top 10
while Brandy is like in the 20s somewhere
and why does she have a biopic before Brandy, Mary, Usher, DC etc?
she was literally out between 93-01 that's 8 years.
I'm seriously not trying to hate, or downplay her greatness and legacy
but how can no one see how excessive her praise is?
But doesn't that speak more to Aaliyah's musical influence and impact? You just got done saying in a previous post that other artists don't get this much fanfare posthumous, but apparently, she did something during her time living that still has her presence felt today.
Ray, she died at 22. She was young and beautiful. That plays a huge part in the strength of her memory. We never got to see her age, make too many mistakes, or live in a social media world that would have humanized her. Aaliyah died in an era where mystique existed, and stars feeling like Gods was still a thing. We didn't go to TMZ or TheShadeRoom to get the news of her death. We heard it on the radio or by word of mouth. It was just a different time. So, that's still the realm she resides in whether you like it or not.
I think what you're in denial about is her impact on the culture. Whether it's a vocal, production, or outfit, we still reference Aaliyah when we see and hear it in other artists. Racking your brain over sales, stats & years in is apparently irrelevant, because there's no way you can prove she still wouldn't place high on these lists had she not died.
You can't debate her impact, because Aaliyah will win every time.
I never debated her impact though that's the thing
but then again I just wonder as we all do and no one has the answer
would ppl still be referencing her if she were alive to the level that they are?
It's just all kind of crazy to me, seems like the shock of what happened to her
caused her to be way more highly regarded, impactful etc
than her work itself
But are you not questioning her impact when asking why she's placed higher on lists than other artists or why she has a film and they don't?
Im moreso questioning why she has the impact for that stuff
not if she actually has it because that's quite obvious
I feel like you're not giving enough credit to her being the vessel for new sounds and production in R&B that Tim and Missy helped her create. She also does not have that much music, so her catalog feels tighter and more classic. There's no real flops or missteps, and it adds weight to her as an artist. You can't really be mad at that, because it means while she was living, she was getting it right.
Records like "One In A Million" & "Are You That Somebody" were WTF! moments when they dropped. Give her that! She may have been lowkey, but she helped to shift the genre forward. And that's why she gets so much critical acclaim.
Quote from: ALEON on September 19, 2017, 02:37:58 PM
It baffles me how people argue where Aaliyah would be today.
Yall get heated as hell like the woman is alive and well, taking over the industry.
The fact of the matter is, WE WILL NEVER KNOW.
To sit on the net and create a fairytale of what here life and relevance
would be today is asinine af. And Aaliyah was never all that SUPER popular anyway.
She did what she was here to do for the time she was here.
Let that lady rest in peace.
n
FUME!
You're doing the same thing you just fumed about.
So keep fuming.
Quote from: Young on September 19, 2017, 02:38:57 PM
Someone is pissed
The way he keep hopping out his chair fjdjdjdjdjd. Tie your shoes first.
Quote from: BowDown on September 19, 2017, 12:56:03 PM
Quote from: Harlem on September 18, 2017, 11:29:40 PM
Two Eleven Brandy could've been the 3rd girl... I mean no other bitch talent wise stood a chance when she was hungry during that time and if she would've kept going...
:stressed:
Please stop with this truth.
:stressed:
I means it's facts thou! Brandy's full potential is so mind blowing to me
:stressed:
Quote from: L0NZ. on September 19, 2017, 02:41:40 PM
Quote from: Young on September 19, 2017, 02:38:57 PM
Someone is pissed
The way he keep hopping out his chair fjdjdjdjdjd. Tie your shoes first.
Dbdbdbdbfbfbfbfbfbffbfbff
Quote from: Harlem on September 19, 2017, 02:42:17 PM
Quote from: BowDown on September 19, 2017, 12:56:03 PM
Quote from: Harlem on September 18, 2017, 11:29:40 PM
Two Eleven Brandy could've been the 3rd girl... I mean no other bitch talent wise stood a chance when she was hungry during that time and if she would've kept going...
:stressed:
Please stop with this truth.
:stressed:
I means it's facts thou! Brandy's full potential is so mind blowing to me
:stressed:
!!!!!
That's how I feel about all 5 of my girls
They really are the best of the best 😭
Quote from: XXX. on September 19, 2017, 02:09:44 PM
Quote from: AYR on September 19, 2017, 01:50:51 PM
It's not even just stans
Like everytime Billboard or Rolling Stone etc in the media does like
top R&B artist of the 90s or whatever, Aaliyah is always top 10
while Brandy is like in the 20s somewhere
and why does she have a biopic before Brandy, Mary, Usher, DC etc?
she was literally out between 93-01 that's 8 years.
I'm seriously not trying to hate, or downplay her greatness and legacy
but how can no one see how excessive her praise is?
But doesn't that speak more to Aaliyah's musical influence and impact? You just got done saying in a previous post that other artists don't get this much fanfare posthumous, but apparently, she did something during her time living that still has her presence felt today.
Ray, she died at 22. She was young and beautiful. That plays a huge part in the strength of her memory. We never got to see her age, make too many mistakes, or live in a social media world that would have humanized her. Aaliyah died in an era where mystique existed, and stars feeling like Gods was still a thing. We didn't go to TMZ or TheShadeRoom to get the news of her death. We heard it on the radio or by word of mouth. It was just a different time. So, that's still the realm she resides in whether you like it or not.
I think what you're in denial about is her impact on the culture. Whether it's a vocal, production, or outfit, we still reference Aaliyah when we see and hear it in other artists. Racking your brain over sales, stats & years in is apparently irrelevant, because there's no way you can prove she still wouldn't place high on these lists had she not died.
You can't debate her impact, because Aaliyah will win every time.
omffff
:stressed:
Quote from: XXX. on September 19, 2017, 02:39:07 PM
Quote from: AYR on September 19, 2017, 02:30:49 PM
Quote from: XXX. on September 19, 2017, 02:27:55 PM
Quote from: AYR on September 19, 2017, 02:21:39 PM
Quote from: XXX. on September 19, 2017, 02:09:44 PM
Quote from: AYR on September 19, 2017, 01:50:51 PM
It's not even just stans
Like everytime Billboard or Rolling Stone etc in the media does like
top R&B artist of the 90s or whatever, Aaliyah is always top 10
while Brandy is like in the 20s somewhere
and why does she have a biopic before Brandy, Mary, Usher, DC etc?
she was literally out between 93-01 that's 8 years.
I'm seriously not trying to hate, or downplay her greatness and legacy
but how can no one see how excessive her praise is?
But doesn't that speak more to Aaliyah's musical influence and impact? You just got done saying in a previous post that other artists don't get this much fanfare posthumous, but apparently, she did something during her time living that still has her presence felt today.
Ray, she died at 22. She was young and beautiful. That plays a huge part in the strength of her memory. We never got to see her age, make too many mistakes, or live in a social media world that would have humanized her. Aaliyah died in an era where mystique existed, and stars feeling like Gods was still a thing. We didn't go to TMZ or TheShadeRoom to get the news of her death. We heard it on the radio or by word of mouth. It was just a different time. So, that's still the realm she resides in whether you like it or not.
I think what you're in denial about is her impact on the culture. Whether it's a vocal, production, or outfit, we still reference Aaliyah when we see and hear it in other artists. Racking your brain over sales, stats & years in is apparently irrelevant, because there's no way you can prove she still wouldn't place high on these lists had she not died.
You can't debate her impact, because Aaliyah will win every time.
I never debated her impact though that's the thing
but then again I just wonder as we all do and no one has the answer
would ppl still be referencing her if she were alive to the level that they are?
It's just all kind of crazy to me, seems like the shock of what happened to her
caused her to be way more highly regarded, impactful etc
than her work itself
But are you not questioning her impact when asking why she's placed higher on lists than other artists or why she has a film and they don't?
Im moreso questioning why she has the impact for that stuff
not if she actually has it because that's quite obvious
I feel like you're not giving enough credit to her being the vessel for new sounds and production in R&B that Tim and Missy helped her create. She also does not have that much music, so her catalog feels tighter and more classic. There's no real flops or missteps, and it adds weight to her as an artist. You can't really be mad at that, because it means while she was living, she was getting it right.
Records like "One In A Million" & "Are You That Somebody" were WTF! moments when they dropped. Give her that! She may have been lowkey, but she helped to shift the genre forward. And that's why she gets so much critical acclaim.
I mean, she was A vessel, not even the only one
and not even a writer/vocal arranger or anything
Do we give the same recognition to Ginuwine for Pony, So Anxious etc?
:singsKellyRowland:
:Her life was stole, now we'll never know"
:stressed:
Quote from: AYR on September 19, 2017, 02:56:15 PM
Quote from: XXX. on September 19, 2017, 02:39:07 PM
Quote from: AYR on September 19, 2017, 02:30:49 PM
Quote from: XXX. on September 19, 2017, 02:27:55 PM
Quote from: AYR on September 19, 2017, 02:21:39 PM
Quote from: XXX. on September 19, 2017, 02:09:44 PM
Quote from: AYR on September 19, 2017, 01:50:51 PM
It's not even just stans
Like everytime Billboard or Rolling Stone etc in the media does like
top R&B artist of the 90s or whatever, Aaliyah is always top 10
while Brandy is like in the 20s somewhere
and why does she have a biopic before Brandy, Mary, Usher, DC etc?
she was literally out between 93-01 that's 8 years.
I'm seriously not trying to hate, or downplay her greatness and legacy
but how can no one see how excessive her praise is?
But doesn't that speak more to Aaliyah's musical influence and impact? You just got done saying in a previous post that other artists don't get this much fanfare posthumous, but apparently, she did something during her time living that still has her presence felt today.
Ray, she died at 22. She was young and beautiful. That plays a huge part in the strength of her memory. We never got to see her age, make too many mistakes, or live in a social media world that would have humanized her. Aaliyah died in an era where mystique existed, and stars feeling like Gods was still a thing. We didn't go to TMZ or TheShadeRoom to get the news of her death. We heard it on the radio or by word of mouth. It was just a different time. So, that's still the realm she resides in whether you like it or not.
I think what you're in denial about is her impact on the culture. Whether it's a vocal, production, or outfit, we still reference Aaliyah when we see and hear it in other artists. Racking your brain over sales, stats & years in is apparently irrelevant, because there's no way you can prove she still wouldn't place high on these lists had she not died.
You can't debate her impact, because Aaliyah will win every time.
I never debated her impact though that's the thing
but then again I just wonder as we all do and no one has the answer
would ppl still be referencing her if she were alive to the level that they are?
It's just all kind of crazy to me, seems like the shock of what happened to her
caused her to be way more highly regarded, impactful etc
than her work itself
But are you not questioning her impact when asking why she's placed higher on lists than other artists or why she has a film and they don't?
Im moreso questioning why she has the impact for that stuff
not if she actually has it because that's quite obvious
I feel like you're not giving enough credit to her being the vessel for new sounds and production in R&B that Tim and Missy helped her create. She also does not have that much music, so her catalog feels tighter and more classic. There's no real flops or missteps, and it adds weight to her as an artist. You can't really be mad at that, because it means while she was living, she was getting it right.
Records like "One In A Million" & "Are You That Somebody" were WTF! moments when they dropped. Give her that! She may have been lowkey, but she helped to shift the genre forward. And that's why she gets so much critical acclaim.
I mean, she was A vessel, not even the only one
and not even a writer/vocal arranger or anything
Do we give the same recognition to Ginuwine for Pony, So Anxious etc?
Here's "Pony" on 2 lists I just found with a simple Google search.
http://www.complex.com/music/best-90s-r-b-songs/ginuwine-pony
http://www.vh1.com/news/1720/40-greatest-rb-songs-of-the-90s/
So, yes. Ginuwine gets his credit.
Again, you're grasping for straws to discredit Aaliyah without providing any real weight for your claims.
But I'm over the discussion now.
Quote from: XXX. on September 19, 2017, 03:01:52 PM
Quote from: AYR on September 19, 2017, 02:56:15 PM
Quote from: XXX. on September 19, 2017, 02:39:07 PM
Quote from: AYR on September 19, 2017, 02:30:49 PM
Quote from: XXX. on September 19, 2017, 02:27:55 PM
Quote from: AYR on September 19, 2017, 02:21:39 PM
Quote from: XXX. on September 19, 2017, 02:09:44 PM
Quote from: AYR on September 19, 2017, 01:50:51 PM
It's not even just stans
Like everytime Billboard or Rolling Stone etc in the media does like
top R&B artist of the 90s or whatever, Aaliyah is always top 10
while Brandy is like in the 20s somewhere
and why does she have a biopic before Brandy, Mary, Usher, DC etc?
she was literally out between 93-01 that's 8 years.
I'm seriously not trying to hate, or downplay her greatness and legacy
but how can no one see how excessive her praise is?
But doesn't that speak more to Aaliyah's musical influence and impact? You just got done saying in a previous post that other artists don't get this much fanfare posthumous, but apparently, she did something during her time living that still has her presence felt today.
Ray, she died at 22. She was young and beautiful. That plays a huge part in the strength of her memory. We never got to see her age, make too many mistakes, or live in a social media world that would have humanized her. Aaliyah died in an era where mystique existed, and stars feeling like Gods was still a thing. We didn't go to TMZ or TheShadeRoom to get the news of her death. We heard it on the radio or by word of mouth. It was just a different time. So, that's still the realm she resides in whether you like it or not.
I think what you're in denial about is her impact on the culture. Whether it's a vocal, production, or outfit, we still reference Aaliyah when we see and hear it in other artists. Racking your brain over sales, stats & years in is apparently irrelevant, because there's no way you can prove she still wouldn't place high on these lists had she not died.
You can't debate her impact, because Aaliyah will win every time.
I never debated her impact though that's the thing
but then again I just wonder as we all do and no one has the answer
would ppl still be referencing her if she were alive to the level that they are?
It's just all kind of crazy to me, seems like the shock of what happened to her
caused her to be way more highly regarded, impactful etc
than her work itself
But are you not questioning her impact when asking why she's placed higher on lists than other artists or why she has a film and they don't?
Im moreso questioning why she has the impact for that stuff
not if she actually has it because that's quite obvious
I feel like you're not giving enough credit to her being the vessel for new sounds and production in R&B that Tim and Missy helped her create. She also does not have that much music, so her catalog feels tighter and more classic. There's no real flops or missteps, and it adds weight to her as an artist. You can't really be mad at that, because it means while she was living, she was getting it right.
Records like "One In A Million" & "Are You That Somebody" were WTF! moments when they dropped. Give her that! She may have been lowkey, but she helped to shift the genre forward. And that's why she gets so much critical acclaim.
I mean, she was A vessel, not even the only one
and not even a writer/vocal arranger or anything
Do we give the same recognition to Ginuwine for Pony, So Anxious etc?
Here's "Pony" on 2 lists I just found with a simple Google search.
http://www.complex.com/music/best-90s-r-b-songs/ginuwine-pony
http://www.vh1.com/news/1720/40-greatest-rb-songs-of-the-90s/
So, yes. Ginuwine gets his credit.
Again, you're grasping for straws to discredit Aaliyah without providing any real weight for your claims.
But I'm over the discussion now.
Im glad you're over it
that was cool or whatever but clearly he doesn't get as much as she does
it would make sense if they were recognized on a similar level
Guys, just let her rest in peace.
I hate talking about Aaliyah because it always make me sad to think she actually died in a plane crash. Such talent being taken out at such a young age. :stressed:
Quote from: AYR on September 19, 2017, 02:56:15 PM
Quote from: XXX. on September 19, 2017, 02:39:07 PM
Quote from: AYR on September 19, 2017, 02:30:49 PM
Quote from: XXX. on September 19, 2017, 02:27:55 PM
Quote from: AYR on September 19, 2017, 02:21:39 PM
Quote from: XXX. on September 19, 2017, 02:09:44 PM
Quote from: AYR on September 19, 2017, 01:50:51 PM
It's not even just stans
Like everytime Billboard or Rolling Stone etc in the media does like
top R&B artist of the 90s or whatever, Aaliyah is always top 10
while Brandy is like in the 20s somewhere
and why does she have a biopic before Brandy, Mary, Usher, DC etc?
she was literally out between 93-01 that's 8 years.
I'm seriously not trying to hate, or downplay her greatness and legacy
but how can no one see how excessive her praise is?
But doesn't that speak more to Aaliyah's musical influence and impact? You just got done saying in a previous post that other artists don't get this much fanfare posthumous, but apparently, she did something during her time living that still has her presence felt today.
Ray, she died at 22. She was young and beautiful. That plays a huge part in the strength of her memory. We never got to see her age, make too many mistakes, or live in a social media world that would have humanized her. Aaliyah died in an era where mystique existed, and stars feeling like Gods was still a thing. We didn't go to TMZ or TheShadeRoom to get the news of her death. We heard it on the radio or by word of mouth. It was just a different time. So, that's still the realm she resides in whether you like it or not.
I think what you're in denial about is her impact on the culture. Whether it's a vocal, production, or outfit, we still reference Aaliyah when we see and hear it in other artists. Racking your brain over sales, stats & years in is apparently irrelevant, because there's no way you can prove she still wouldn't place high on these lists had she not died.
You can't debate her impact, because Aaliyah will win every time.
I never debated her impact though that's the thing
but then again I just wonder as we all do and no one has the answer
would ppl still be referencing her if she were alive to the level that they are?
It's just all kind of crazy to me, seems like the shock of what happened to her
caused her to be way more highly regarded, impactful etc
than her work itself
But are you not questioning her impact when asking why she's placed higher on lists than other artists or why she has a film and they don't?
Im moreso questioning why she has the impact for that stuff
not if she actually has it because that's quite obvious
I feel like you're not giving enough credit to her being the vessel for new sounds and production in R&B that Tim and Missy helped her create. She also does not have that much music, so her catalog feels tighter and more classic. There's no real flops or missteps, and it adds weight to her as an artist. You can't really be mad at that, because it means while she was living, she was getting it right.
Records like "One In A Million" & "Are You That Somebody" were WTF! moments when they dropped. Give her that! She may have been lowkey, but she helped to shift the genre forward. And that's why she gets so much critical acclaim.
I mean, she was A vessel, not even the only one
and not even a writer/vocal arranger or anything
Do we give the same recognition to Ginuwine for Pony, So Anxious etc?
Tim and Missy themselves give Aaliyah the praise for taking a chance on them. Not anyone else. Do they do that because she died too?
Well Aaliyah's influence goes beyond music, so no it wouldn't be the same
Ray was obliterated in here
22
She had done so much so quick
A 22 year old LEGEND and icon in music
It's absolutely insane
Quote from: 1RIG on September 19, 2017, 03:09:45 PM
Well Aaliyah's influence goes beyond music, so no it wouldn't be the same
Ray was obliterated in here
damn yea
Quote from: L0NZ. on September 19, 2017, 03:09:44 PM
Quote from: AYR on September 19, 2017, 02:56:15 PM
Quote from: XXX. on September 19, 2017, 02:39:07 PM
Quote from: AYR on September 19, 2017, 02:30:49 PM
Quote from: XXX. on September 19, 2017, 02:27:55 PM
Quote from: AYR on September 19, 2017, 02:21:39 PM
Quote from: XXX. on September 19, 2017, 02:09:44 PM
Quote from: AYR on September 19, 2017, 01:50:51 PM
It's not even just stans
Like everytime Billboard or Rolling Stone etc in the media does like
top R&B artist of the 90s or whatever, Aaliyah is always top 10
while Brandy is like in the 20s somewhere
and why does she have a biopic before Brandy, Mary, Usher, DC etc?
she was literally out between 93-01 that's 8 years.
I'm seriously not trying to hate, or downplay her greatness and legacy
but how can no one see how excessive her praise is?
But doesn't that speak more to Aaliyah's musical influence and impact? You just got done saying in a previous post that other artists don't get this much fanfare posthumous, but apparently, she did something during her time living that still has her presence felt today.
Ray, she died at 22. She was young and beautiful. That plays a huge part in the strength of her memory. We never got to see her age, make too many mistakes, or live in a social media world that would have humanized her. Aaliyah died in an era where mystique existed, and stars feeling like Gods was still a thing. We didn't go to TMZ or TheShadeRoom to get the news of her death. We heard it on the radio or by word of mouth. It was just a different time. So, that's still the realm she resides in whether you like it or not.
I think what you're in denial about is her impact on the culture. Whether it's a vocal, production, or outfit, we still reference Aaliyah when we see and hear it in other artists. Racking your brain over sales, stats & years in is apparently irrelevant, because there's no way you can prove she still wouldn't place high on these lists had she not died.
You can't debate her impact, because Aaliyah will win every time.
I never debated her impact though that's the thing
but then again I just wonder as we all do and no one has the answer
would ppl still be referencing her if she were alive to the level that they are?
It's just all kind of crazy to me, seems like the shock of what happened to her
caused her to be way more highly regarded, impactful etc
than her work itself
But are you not questioning her impact when asking why she's placed higher on lists than other artists or why she has a film and they don't?
Im moreso questioning why she has the impact for that stuff
not if she actually has it because that's quite obvious
I feel like you're not giving enough credit to her being the vessel for new sounds and production in R&B that Tim and Missy helped her create. She also does not have that much music, so her catalog feels tighter and more classic. There's no real flops or missteps, and it adds weight to her as an artist. You can't really be mad at that, because it means while she was living, she was getting it right.
Records like "One In A Million" & "Are You That Somebody" were WTF! moments when they dropped. Give her that! She may have been lowkey, but she helped to shift the genre forward. And that's why she gets so much critical acclaim.
I mean, she was A vessel, not even the only one
and not even a writer/vocal arranger or anything
Do we give the same recognition to Ginuwine for Pony, So Anxious etc?
Tim and Missy themselves give Aaliyah the praise for taking a chance on them. Not anyone else. Do they do that because she died too?
theyre biased and in love with her
that doesn't count, but clearly they could've picked any cute little girl to work with
Yea you're a hater.
Quote from: Young on September 19, 2017, 03:09:59 PM
22
She had done so much so quick
A 22 year old LEGEND and icon in music
It's absolutely insane
!!!!
Most artists nowadays don't pop off until they reach early 20's. It's amazing to see how much she accomplished in such a short period of time. :plzstop:
And now that Mac Line mess
She's STILL booking
Calling her a legend at 22 is another example of doing too much.
What did she do when she was ALIVE that made her a legend?
Quote from: AYR on September 19, 2017, 03:14:51 PM
Quote from: L0NZ. on September 19, 2017, 03:09:44 PM
Quote from: AYR on September 19, 2017, 02:56:15 PM
Quote from: XXX. on September 19, 2017, 02:39:07 PM
Quote from: AYR on September 19, 2017, 02:30:49 PM
Quote from: XXX. on September 19, 2017, 02:27:55 PM
Quote from: AYR on September 19, 2017, 02:21:39 PM
Quote from: XXX. on September 19, 2017, 02:09:44 PM
Quote from: AYR on September 19, 2017, 01:50:51 PM
It's not even just stans
Like everytime Billboard or Rolling Stone etc in the media does like
top R&B artist of the 90s or whatever, Aaliyah is always top 10
while Brandy is like in the 20s somewhere
and why does she have a biopic before Brandy, Mary, Usher, DC etc?
she was literally out between 93-01 that's 8 years.
I'm seriously not trying to hate, or downplay her greatness and legacy
but how can no one see how excessive her praise is?
But doesn't that speak more to Aaliyah's musical influence and impact? You just got done saying in a previous post that other artists don't get this much fanfare posthumous, but apparently, she did something during her time living that still has her presence felt today.
Ray, she died at 22. She was young and beautiful. That plays a huge part in the strength of her memory. We never got to see her age, make too many mistakes, or live in a social media world that would have humanized her. Aaliyah died in an era where mystique existed, and stars feeling like Gods was still a thing. We didn't go to TMZ or TheShadeRoom to get the news of her death. We heard it on the radio or by word of mouth. It was just a different time. So, that's still the realm she resides in whether you like it or not.
I think what you're in denial about is her impact on the culture. Whether it's a vocal, production, or outfit, we still reference Aaliyah when we see and hear it in other artists. Racking your brain over sales, stats & years in is apparently irrelevant, because there's no way you can prove she still wouldn't place high on these lists had she not died.
You can't debate her impact, because Aaliyah will win every time.
I never debated her impact though that's the thing
but then again I just wonder as we all do and no one has the answer
would ppl still be referencing her if she were alive to the level that they are?
It's just all kind of crazy to me, seems like the shock of what happened to her
caused her to be way more highly regarded, impactful etc
than her work itself
But are you not questioning her impact when asking why she's placed higher on lists than other artists or why she has a film and they don't?
Im moreso questioning why she has the impact for that stuff
not if she actually has it because that's quite obvious
I feel like you're not giving enough credit to her being the vessel for new sounds and production in R&B that Tim and Missy helped her create. She also does not have that much music, so her catalog feels tighter and more classic. There's no real flops or missteps, and it adds weight to her as an artist. You can't really be mad at that, because it means while she was living, she was getting it right.
Records like "One In A Million" & "Are You That Somebody" were WTF! moments when they dropped. Give her that! She may have been lowkey, but she helped to shift the genre forward. And that's why she gets so much critical acclaim.
I mean, she was A vessel, not even the only one
and not even a writer/vocal arranger or anything
Do we give the same recognition to Ginuwine for Pony, So Anxious etc?
Tim and Missy themselves give Aaliyah the praise for taking a chance on them. Not anyone else. Do they do that because she died too?
theyre biased and in love with her
that doesn't count, but clearly they could've picked any cute little girl to work with
yup you're jaded.
so many frowns abound
I can literally SEE a babys face just as it's about to cry fddddd
Quote from: Cho-Ku on September 19, 2017, 03:20:23 PM
Calling her a legend at 22 is another example of doing too much.
What did she do when she was ALIVE that made her a legend?
n
She accomplished so much!
........Waaaaaaaaa
I'm screaming
But yeah she was doing legendary shit
Icon then
Legend now
:blessed:
Sorry guys
Not mocking the idea of her accomplishing so much by 22 when she really did.
You're done hon
She wasn't a legend at 22 hon' bun
Quote from: Young on September 19, 2017, 03:27:42 PM
I'm screaming
But yeah she was doing legendary shit
Icon then
Legend now
let's just cut to the pig feet and collard greens
Her death is the best thing that could have happened to her career
Faggot how bout we skip to the fucking A LA MODE then
You don't know that and CANT say that especially when it was looking otherwise for her
She was beginning to blow and brand herself by doing what what Beyonce did as she blew up but 2 years prior lol
Quote from: Cho-Ku on September 19, 2017, 03:50:47 PM
let's just cut to the pig feet and collard greens
Her death is the best thing that could have happened to her career
You NEVER ever make sense.
Quote from: Cho-Ku on September 19, 2017, 03:50:47 PM
let's just cut to the pig feet and collard greens
Her death is the best thing that could have happened to her career
n
Yea cuz the back to back blockbuster films, offers and endorsements are something to sneeze at :dead:
Y'all just hate her stans and that's fine I guess, but I've never seen her true fans bring up Beyonc?. Just idiots on twitter that would rather spark up debate about any ole thing
Don't pay that one legged Mexican troll anymind
What does Beyonce have to do with it
Young basically agreed with me
She was an "icon" before she died and become a legend after her death
We're all on the same page girls
:calmdownsis:
Blockbuster films?
Quote from: AYR on September 19, 2017, 03:59:23 PM
Blockbuster films?
She was going to do the Matrix or something
They say that a lot maybe that's what he means
Quote from: Cho-Ku on September 19, 2017, 04:01:38 PM
Quote from: AYR on September 19, 2017, 03:59:23 PM
Blockbuster films?
She was going to do the Matrix or something
They say that a lot maybe that's what he means
yea 2 and 3
her character Zee was played by Oscar nominated actress Nona Gaye
i think Beyonce's name needs to not be brought up.
Cause this shit can kinda go wayyyyy left lol.
:calmdownsis:
yea so make another instance of it! makes so much sense n
Quote from: 1RIG on September 19, 2017, 03:56:28 PM
Quote from: Cho-Ku on September 19, 2017, 03:50:47 PM
let's just cut to the pig feet and collard greens
Her death is the best thing that could have happened to her career
n
Yea cuz the back to back blockbuster films, offers and endorsements are something to sneeze at :dead:
Y'all just hate her stans and that's fine I guess, but I've never seen her true fans bring up Beyonc?. Just idiots on twitter that would rather spark up debate about any ole thing
Zankou was systemically lashed in this bitch
Quote from: OwnIt on September 19, 2017, 04:08:10 PM
Zankou was systemically lashed in this bitch
this part always kills me :kii:
And I wasn't comparing Aaliyah and Bey just saying that is the kind of avenue Liy was taking
Romeo Must Die
Queen Of'
Matrix
And then was tapped for Sparkle
She was doing shit and had things lined up
She barely got to really promote the album; tour etc
Like the fact that she was building up a slay and never got to--I just don't see why we would count her out like that
It's unfair
Especially because her legacy is one of the most influencial and Revalvent in all of music
Forgot how huge Sparkle was for Whitney and Jordin
I just know flowers wilt when you walk past
Breathe bbycakes
Quote from: Amir on September 19, 2017, 04:15:28 PM
I just know flowers wilt when you walk past
Breathe bbycakes
-
Quote from: AYR on September 19, 2017, 04:14:08 PM
Forgot how huge Sparkle was for Whitney and Jordin
:guys:
Omg
Quote from: AYR on September 19, 2017, 04:14:08 PM
Forgot how huge Sparkle was for Whitney and Jordin
:diddraispoot: :diddraispoot: :diddraispoot: :diddraispoot: :diddraispoot: :diddraispoot: :diddraispoot:
Let's really get into the mess cause Ray has a point
Saying she was going to be a legend because of these movies
The Trix' and Sparkle
Are we really basing all of this on these 2 movies?
:omgwatshappening:
The way Ray just slapped Pearls "Im Every Woman" wig off
:guys:
Quote from: Baph al Mana. on September 19, 2017, 04:26:06 PM
The way Ray just slapped Pearls "Im Every Woman" wig off
:guys:
vghhjhhbhhhjghjhj
Never I love Whitney and she did well with the acting in Sparkle
I couldn't understand a word Whitney was saying in Sparkle
I using my friends account to post but;
To me it Kind of seems like AALIYAH was taking over!
1999
https://instagram.com/p/BY2YOUkjpTe/
2000
https://instagram.com/p/BYzayj1DNqa/
I don't really see the other TEENS mentioned in this threads or going up there to Book an actual MOON mess for fav female!
Really no Shade, but would you go to Brandy or Monica's instahram or FB page and ask this same question and expect a rational replies? :kii: :kii: :kii:
Missus is so fucking annoying :dead:
the real MISSUS knew that Aaliyah was 21 at the time of the VMAS 2000 when she won
not a teen
Quote from: AYR on September 19, 2017, 05:36:25 PM
the real MISSUS knew that Aaliyah was 21 at the time of the VMAS 2000 when she won
not a teen
She may have been a teen tho
Didn't Kellz get her to change her age?
Quote from: L0NZ. on September 19, 2017, 04:07:32 PM
yea so make another instance of it! makes so much sense n
the way baph FLEW pass this lashing. Shit
Quote from: AYR on September 19, 2017, 05:36:25 PM
the real MISSUS knew that Aaliyah was 21 at the time of the VMAS 2000 when she won
not a teen
D
Thw Real RAY would be in my DM's begging for pics of the kitty as soon I hit the Bsource Registration tab.
(https://media.giphy.com/media/viNpQDhmA2UsE/giphy.gif)
vvvvvvvcv
Yuck
Quote from: wild enuff 2 tame meh on September 19, 2017, 07:17:18 AM
but im sure if GODliyah were still here the gorls would be trashing her just like they do nicki.
so rip princess . u aint missin nothing
Djjfff
Did you really just put that thing on Liy's level
Quote from: OwnIt on September 19, 2017, 05:58:23 PM
vvvvvvvcv
Yuck
Gggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhg
(http://i.imgur.com/MSwwUOd.gif)
Ray is a damn FREAK'! Don't let that church grunt fool ya', girl! ^_^ ^_^
Liy definitely would've given a JT mess
And Rih probably wouldn't exist (dammit)
he said what he said, mutt.
Quote from: Baph al Mana. on September 19, 2017, 06:06:52 PM
Quote from: Drais. on September 19, 2017, 06:05:41 PM
And Rih probably wouldn't exist (dammit)
plea'
v
yeah nah. If Li was still here their lanes would be very different.
Quote from: Young on September 19, 2017, 04:11:25 PM
And I wasn't comparing Aaliyah and Bey just saying that is the kind of avenue Liy was taking
Romeo Must Die
Queen Of'
Matrix
And then was tapped for Sparkle
She was doing shit and had things lined up
She barely got to really promote the album; tour etc
Like the fact that she was building up a slay and never got to--I just don't see why we would count her out like that
It's unfair
Especially because her legacy is one of the most influencial and Revalvent in all of music
what is this bby
:guys:
MelMel I will fuck you up beloved dbdbfbfbfbfbfbf
Quote from: TRY.It.AGAIN on September 19, 2017, 06:05:11 PM
Quote from: OwnIt on September 19, 2017, 05:58:23 PM
vvvvvvvcv
Yuck
Gggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhg
(http://i.imgur.com/MSwwUOd.gif)
Ray is a damn FREAK'! Don't let that church grunt fool ya', girl! ^_^ ^_^
kfjhgvbf,b.mnbvhlv,mn
not a church grunt
CVCCCCVCCCCCC;;;:hhvvvv
Not influencial and Revalvent
Him and zankou are a mess
Quote from: Young on September 19, 2017, 06:43:06 PM
MelMel I will fuck you up beloved dbdbfbfbfbfbfbf
:omgwatshappening: :omgwatshappening: :omgwatshappening:
Quote from: Pearls on September 19, 2017, 05:36:39 PM
Quote from: AYR on September 19, 2017, 03:59:23 PM
Blockbuster films?
Hdhdhdbsbzvzvzvsgzgzgzgsgsgsz
ummm yes?
She was also offered roles in Scary movie which was huge. For a singer to have hits and do both >>
Not doing honey 4 and bring it on 7
n
Quote from: OwnIt on September 19, 2017, 06:43:46 PM
CVCCCCVCCCCCC;;;:hhvvvv
Not influencial and Revalvent
Him and zankou are a mess
ghmsdcccccccccccccccc
is it latin class
Quote from: Young on September 18, 2017, 10:55:03 PM
If Queen didn't leave us?
https://instagram.com/p/BZM-OSIFsFU/
well ... basically. In terms of a hierarchy mess.
Aaliyah opened the door wide for both Rih and Bey tbh
Becoming a major star/icon and tapping into the big screen. And really Rihanna becoming this fashion/swaggy goddess.
It's safe to say Aaliyah would be the undisputed Queen right now
:stressed:
But who knows, Liy also seemed like the no nonsense type. Sis might've been on album 10 and retired a legend by now.
Quote from: 1RIG on September 19, 2017, 06:48:52 PM
Quote from: Pearls on September 19, 2017, 05:36:39 PM
Quote from: AYR on September 19, 2017, 03:59:23 PM
Blockbuster films?
Hdhdhdbsbzvzvzvsgzgzgzgsgsgsz
ummm yes?
She was also offered roles in Scary movie which was huge. For a singer to have hits and do both >>
Not doing honey 4 and bring it on 7
n
SDFLKJHKKKKKKKKKKHKHKHKHKHKHKHKHKHKHKHK
(https://i.imgur.com/8SC1LV9.gif)
Matrix?! Huh? :dead: this oblivious act
Does she need to be in Harry Potter in order to get some credit?
Ddd
And why are ALL of thd ci's giving a 50+ gif mess like they have a POINT to prove!
:roflmao:
Am getting a 2008 OVERLOAD!
(https://acrossthehogsback.files.wordpress.com/2016/08/giphy8.gif?w=676)
Quote from: 1RIG on September 19, 2017, 06:50:45 PM
Matrix?! Huh? :dead: this oblivious act
Does she need to be in Harry Potter in order to get some credit?
sssssss
And sis prolly would've booked that role if she was alive too!
What I love about Liy was her genuine TALENT in all aspects.
She was a great singer.
She was a great actress.
Quote from: 1RIG on September 19, 2017, 06:48:52 PM
Quote from: Pearls on September 19, 2017, 05:36:39 PM
Quote from: AYR on September 19, 2017, 03:59:23 PM
Blockbuster films?
Hdhdhdbsbzvzvzvsgzgzgzgsgsgsz
ummm yes?
She was also offered roles in Scary movie which was huge. For a singer to have hits and do both >>
Not doing honey 4 and bring it on 7
n
Although she was cast as Honey 1 :lopsided:
so yea y'all can stfu
Quote from: OwnIt on September 19, 2017, 04:29:16 PM
I couldn't understand a word Whitney was saying in Sparkle
I don't know why this made me scream. :kii:
Quote from: ORORO MUNROE-UDAKU on September 19, 2017, 06:50:22 PM
Quote from: Young on September 18, 2017, 10:55:03 PM
If Queen didn't leave us?
https://instagram.com/p/BZM-OSIFsFU/
well ... basically. In terms of a hierarchy mess.
Aaliyah opened the door wide for both Rih and Bey tbh
Becoming a major star/icon and tapping into the big screen. And really Rihanna becoming this fashion/swaggy goddess.
It's safe to say Aaliyah would be the undisputed Queen right now
:stressed:
But who knows, Liy also seemed like the no nonsense type. Sis might've been on album 10 and retired a legend by now.
Ack!!
The highest most 'alted one :gorlonfire:
Quote from: XXX. on September 19, 2017, 07:06:28 PM
Quote from: OwnIt on September 19, 2017, 04:29:16 PM
I couldn't understand a word Whitney was saying in Sparkle
I don't know why this made me scream. :kii:
ncncncnncnc Whitney's tongue was heavy as fuck
Undisputed Quee'QuoteAfter Aaliyah was released in July 2001, it debuted at number two on the Billboard 200 albums chart, selling 187,000 but sold diminishingly afterwards.
She was selling 100k first week in 2001. That was a flop in 2000 and not much better in 2017
If Bey gave a 100k tea could you imagine?
But
Icon
This leprechaun is still googling Aaliyah 6 hours later.
Guys
Big numbers first week wasn't even mandatory back then
Albums always stayed on the charts for weeks and months back then
She was certified Gold fast
And had bangers lined up that she didn't even really get to promote or do how she wanted
I sure didT google ha
Let you girls tell it she was on Britney's level back then
Quote from: TRY.It.AGAIN on September 19, 2017, 06:51:29 PM
Ddd
And why are ALL of thd ci's giving a 50+ gif mess like they have a POINT to prove!
:roflmao:
Am getting a 2008 OVERLOAD!
(https://acrossthehogsback.files.wordpress.com/2016/08/giphy8.gif?w=676)
I praised liy up n down in this thread
Bitch
re-fried bean brain fag, not one person in here said anything like that let y'all tell it!!!. shut up
She wasn't a legend back then and looking at the stats and numbers maybe not even an icon. She was actually on a decline on the charts
Truly Sor but the death helped
(https://media.giphy.com/media/l4JyYeTh0W3qMfT0s/giphy.gif)
what's gonna help your dead leg?
Sis I'm trying to keep it classy
But if you wanna joke about death we can do that too
(https://33.media.tumblr.com/17a28c246ebfb6934012d40981242ce5/tumblr_n1fbc5vgsS1qg5o2oo3_250.gif)
We sure can.
And make them good and creative. I've heard 16 years worth of them so think hard.
Quote from: OwnIt on September 19, 2017, 07:20:23 PM
Quote from: TRY.It.AGAIN on September 19, 2017, 06:51:29 PM
Ddd
And why are ALL of thd ci's giving a 50+ gif mess like they have a POINT to prove!
:roflmao:
Am getting a 2008 OVERLOAD!
(https://acrossthehogsback.files.wordpress.com/2016/08/giphy8.gif?w=676)
I praised liy up n down in this thread
Bitch
Tal! my fcking bi+ch!
(https://media.tenor.com/images/0dc3d5636233a2a0ffde7646d8bb09b6/tenor.gif)
Dddd
I'm talking about ur SIG for Christ's sake, hun!
HOW could I miss the mess when it's slowing down my Toshiba a bit each time I reach to scroll!
:ermm: :ermm:
Quote from: 1RIG on September 19, 2017, 06:48:52 PM
Quote from: Pearls on September 19, 2017, 05:36:39 PM
Quote from: AYR on September 19, 2017, 03:59:23 PM
Blockbuster films?
Hdhdhdbsbzvzvzvsgzgzgzgsgsgsz
ummm yes?
She was also offered roles in Scary movie which was huge. For a singer to have hits and do both >>
Not doing honey 4 and bring it on 7
n
Oh sorry. I was basing "blockbuster movies" off of what she actually did. What made it to theaters, not what she was penciled in for. Am I allowed to do that without offending anyone, or?
Quote from: Pearls on September 19, 2017, 08:36:28 PM
Quote from: 1RIG on September 19, 2017, 06:48:52 PM
Quote from: Pearls on September 19, 2017, 05:36:39 PM
Quote from: AYR on September 19, 2017, 03:59:23 PM
Blockbuster films?
Hdhdhdbsbzvzvzvsgzgzgzgsgsgsz
ummm yes?
She was also offered roles in Scary movie which was huge. For a singer to have hits and do both >>
Not doing honey 4 and bring it on 7
n
Oh sorry. I was basing "blockbuster movies" off of what she actually did. What made it to theaters, not what she was penciled in for. Am I allowed to do that without offending anyone, or?
Inking the deals is success in itself. Don't.
Quote from: Pearls on September 19, 2017, 08:36:28 PM
Quote from: 1RIG on September 19, 2017, 06:48:52 PM
Quote from: Pearls on September 19, 2017, 05:36:39 PM
Quote from: AYR on September 19, 2017, 03:59:23 PM
Blockbuster films?
Hdhdhdbsbzvzvzvsgzgzgzgsgsgsz
ummm yes?
She was also offered roles in Scary movie which was huge. For a singer to have hits and do both >>
Not doing honey 4 and bring it on 7
n
Oh sorry. I was basing "blockbuster movies" off of what she actually did. What made it to theaters, not what she was penciled in for. Am I allowed to do that without offending anyone, or?
Wtf
Threads pondering on where Aaliyah would be had she not died always turn out exactly the same.
In pure MESS!
Quote from: TRY.It.AGAIN on September 19, 2017, 08:17:52 PM
Quote from: OwnIt on September 19, 2017, 07:20:23 PM
Quote from: TRY.It.AGAIN on September 19, 2017, 06:51:29 PM
Ddd
And why are ALL of thd ci's giving a 50+ gif mess like they have a POINT to prove!
:roflmao:
Am getting a 2008 OVERLOAD!
(https://acrossthehogsback.files.wordpress.com/2016/08/giphy8.gif?w=676)
I praised liy up n down in this thread
Bitch
Tal! my fcking bi+ch!
(https://media.tenor.com/images/0dc3d5636233a2a0ffde7646d8bb09b6/tenor.gif)
Dddd
I'm talking about ur SIG for Christ's sake, hun!
HOW could I miss the mess when it's slowing down my Toshiba a bit each time I reach to scroll!
:ermm: :ermm:
oh girl vccvvvvcvvvvccccvvcxzzzzxcccccc
Them itty bitty 125x125 gifs slowing down your drive?
Time for an upgrade
(https://media.tenor.com/images/0dc3d5636233a2a0ffde7646d8bb09b6/tenor.gif)
Quote from: Pearls on September 19, 2017, 08:36:28 PM
Quote from: 1RIG on September 19, 2017, 06:48:52 PM
Quote from: Pearls on September 19, 2017, 05:36:39 PM
Quote from: AYR on September 19, 2017, 03:59:23 PM
Blockbuster films?
Hdhdhdbsbzvzvzvsgzgzgzgsgsgsz
ummm yes?
She was also offered roles in Scary movie which was huge. For a singer to have hits and do both >>
Not doing honey 4 and bring it on 7
n
Oh sorry. I was basing "blockbuster movies" off of what she actually did. What made it to theaters, not what she was penciled in for. Am I allowed to do that without offending anyone, or?
:everythingok: :everythingok: :everythingok: :everythingok: :everythingok: :everythingok: :everythingok:
Quote from: Young on September 19, 2017, 07:19:03 PM
Big numbers first week wasn't even mandatory back then
Albums always stayed on the charts for weeks and months back then
She was certified Gold fast
And had bangers lined up that she didn't even really get to promote or do how she wanted
!!!
350K and 400K first week and then stalling out like everyone does now, was NOT a thing back then :dead: bitches were going platinum and double PLAT no matter how long it took
Quote from: Baph al Mana. on September 19, 2017, 08:42:23 PM
Quote from: Pearls on September 19, 2017, 08:36:28 PM
Quote from: 1RIG on September 19, 2017, 06:48:52 PM
Quote from: Pearls on September 19, 2017, 05:36:39 PM
Quote from: AYR on September 19, 2017, 03:59:23 PM
Blockbuster films?
Hdhdhdbsbzvzvzvsgzgzgzgsgsgsz
ummm yes?
She was also offered roles in Scary movie which was huge. For a singer to have hits and do both >>
Not doing honey 4 and bring it on 7
n
Oh sorry. I was basing "blockbuster movies" off of what she actually did. What made it to theaters, not what she was penciled in for. Am I allowed to do that without offending anyone, or?
:everythingok: :everythingok: :everythingok: :everythingok: :everythingok: :everythingok: :everythingok:
that made zero sense. A book is a book and she was fucking booked LMAO
... and sought after, feverishly.
The album was falling down the charts before...
Anyway I'm looking at what she actually accomplished when she was alive
Saying she was going to do Scream and the Matrix really doesn't mean much.
Those movies were huge but what are those actors doing now?
n
Were they also big and ascending in the music genres with endorsements to boot? Because, again, that?s what separates her from the rest lol
She was only one single in (an experimental risky one at that) so saying her album was falling down the chart doesnt mean much
That happened a lot back then and she easily could have risen right back up with songs like Rock the boat. sales and fans werent as fickle back then. First week didnt mean as much
How aaliyah gon be part of that trinity
I hope the ones questioning these blockbuster movies know she actually started filming for The Matrix but her death caused them to recast and refilm, they tributed her on the DVD behind the scenes showing the footage, like it wasn't a alleged mess :dead:
18 pages :dead:
Quote from: Harlem on September 20, 2017, 03:34:51 PM
I hope the ones questioning these blockbuster movies know she actually started filming for The Matrix but her death caused them to recast and refilm, they tributed her on the DVD behind the scenes showing the footage, like it wasn't a alleged mess :dead:
yea this is true
the part was like a cameo though
:dead:
Quote from: AYR on September 20, 2017, 04:17:12 PM
Quote from: Harlem on September 20, 2017, 03:34:51 PM
I hope the ones questioning these blockbuster movies know she actually started filming for The Matrix but her death caused them to recast and refilm, they tributed her on the DVD behind the scenes showing the footage, like it wasn't a alleged mess :dead:
yea this is true
the part was like a cameo though
EXACTLY!
I could see if she was the lead female role
fdgggggggggggg
Ray HATES Aaliyah
Y'all are a mess! :kii:
She would not be successful today in music. She was too weird for mainstream like Kelis. It only worked for Gaga because she's white.
But I would take her over nicki anyday.
Quote from: Genesis on September 20, 2017, 04:39:54 PM
She would not be successful today in music. She was too weird for mainstream like Kelis.
People can adapt if they want. Aaliyah had the look and vocal to do pop if she'd wanted to. "Aaliyah" the person was already actually very mainstream with good runs on TRL, hosting it, presenting at numerous MTV awards shows and specials, etc. She was becoming the media darling. Her music was still We Need A Resolution tho. A bit of a conflict.
Not GaGa and Kelis.
Aaliyah punched out the jams just like every other R&B girl.
Weird!
hhhh yea the Gaga thing was way off. I wouldnt stan tbh.
Quote from: L0NZ. on September 20, 2017, 04:46:07 PM
Quote from: Genesis on September 20, 2017, 04:39:54 PM
She would not be successful today in music. She was too weird for mainstream like Kelis.
People can adapt if they want. Aaliyah had the look and vocal to do pop if she'd wanted to. "Aaliyah" the person was already actually very mainstream with good runs on TRL, hosting it, presenting at numerous MTV awards shows and specials, etc. She was becoming the media darling. Her music was still We Need A Resolution tho. A bit of a conflict.
her ?weirdness? is a huge inspiration for all these popular indie girls anyway :dead: