Ack! Would this have been the trinity ?

Started by Young, September 18, 2017, 10:55:03 PM

Previous topic - Next topic

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

RAY7

Her singles and 3rd album are great
just beautiful music


Aalonso.

Quote from: XXX. on September 19, 2017, 02:09:44 PM
Quote from: AYR on September 19, 2017, 01:50:51 PM
It's not even just stans
Like everytime Billboard or Rolling Stone etc in the media does like
top R&B artist of the 90s or whatever, Aaliyah is always top 10
while Brandy is like in the 20s somewhere
and why does she have a biopic before Brandy, Mary, Usher, DC etc?
she was literally out between 93-01 that's 8 years.
I'm seriously not trying to hate, or downplay her greatness and legacy
but how can no one see how excessive her praise is?


Ray, she died at 22.  She was young and beautiful.  That plays a huge part in the strength of her memory.  We never got to see her age, make too many mistakes, or live in a social media world that would have humanized her.  Aaliyah died in an era where mystique existed, and stars feeling like Gods was still a thing.  We didn't go to TMZ or TheShadeRoom to get the news of her death.  We heard it on the radio or by word of mouth.  It was just a different time.  So, that's still the realm she resides in whether you like it or not. 


This is very beautiful.

Young



XXX.

Quote from: AYR on September 19, 2017, 02:21:39 PM
Quote from: XXX. on September 19, 2017, 02:09:44 PM
Quote from: AYR on September 19, 2017, 01:50:51 PM
It's not even just stans
Like everytime Billboard or Rolling Stone etc in the media does like
top R&B artist of the 90s or whatever, Aaliyah is always top 10
while Brandy is like in the 20s somewhere
and why does she have a biopic before Brandy, Mary, Usher, DC etc?
she was literally out between 93-01 that's 8 years.
I'm seriously not trying to hate, or downplay her greatness and legacy
but how can no one see how excessive her praise is?

But doesn't that speak more to Aaliyah's musical influence and impact?  You just got done saying in a previous post that other artists don't get this much fanfare posthumous, but apparently, she did something during her time living that still has her presence felt today.

Ray, she died at 22.  She was young and beautiful.  That plays a huge part in the strength of her memory.  We never got to see her age, make too many mistakes, or live in a social media world that would have humanized her.  Aaliyah died in an era where mystique existed, and stars feeling like Gods was still a thing.  We didn't go to TMZ or TheShadeRoom to get the news of her death.  We heard it on the radio or by word of mouth.  It was just a different time.  So, that's still the realm she resides in whether you like it or not. 

I think what you're in denial about is her impact on the culture.  Whether it's a vocal, production, or outfit, we still reference Aaliyah when we see and hear it in other artists.  Racking your brain over sales, stats & years in is apparently irrelevant, because there's no way you can prove she still wouldn't place high on these lists had she not died.

You can't debate her impact, because Aaliyah will win every time.
I never debated her impact though that's the thing
but then again I just wonder as we all do and no one has the answer
would ppl still be referencing her if she were alive to the level that they are?
It's just all kind of crazy to me, seems like the shock of what happened to her
caused her to be way more highly regarded, impactful etc
than her work itself

But are you not questioning her impact when asking why she's placed higher on lists than other artists or why she has a film and they don't?

RAY7

Quote from: XXX. on September 19, 2017, 02:27:55 PM
Quote from: AYR on September 19, 2017, 02:21:39 PM
Quote from: XXX. on September 19, 2017, 02:09:44 PM
Quote from: AYR on September 19, 2017, 01:50:51 PM
It's not even just stans
Like everytime Billboard or Rolling Stone etc in the media does like
top R&B artist of the 90s or whatever, Aaliyah is always top 10
while Brandy is like in the 20s somewhere
and why does she have a biopic before Brandy, Mary, Usher, DC etc?
she was literally out between 93-01 that's 8 years.
I'm seriously not trying to hate, or downplay her greatness and legacy
but how can no one see how excessive her praise is?

But doesn't that speak more to Aaliyah's musical influence and impact?  You just got done saying in a previous post that other artists don't get this much fanfare posthumous, but apparently, she did something during her time living that still has her presence felt today.

Ray, she died at 22.  She was young and beautiful.  That plays a huge part in the strength of her memory.  We never got to see her age, make too many mistakes, or live in a social media world that would have humanized her.  Aaliyah died in an era where mystique existed, and stars feeling like Gods was still a thing.  We didn't go to TMZ or TheShadeRoom to get the news of her death.  We heard it on the radio or by word of mouth.  It was just a different time.  So, that's still the realm she resides in whether you like it or not. 

I think what you're in denial about is her impact on the culture.  Whether it's a vocal, production, or outfit, we still reference Aaliyah when we see and hear it in other artists.  Racking your brain over sales, stats & years in is apparently irrelevant, because there's no way you can prove she still wouldn't place high on these lists had she not died.

You can't debate her impact, because Aaliyah will win every time.
I never debated her impact though that's the thing
but then again I just wonder as we all do and no one has the answer
would ppl still be referencing her if she were alive to the level that they are?
It's just all kind of crazy to me, seems like the shock of what happened to her
caused her to be way more highly regarded, impactful etc
than her work itself

But are you not questioning her impact when asking why she's placed higher on lists than other artists or why she has a film and they don't?
Im moreso questioning why she has the impact for that stuff
not if she actually has it because that's quite obvious

XXX.

Quote from: L0NZ. on September 19, 2017, 02:25:03 PM
Quote from: XXX. on September 19, 2017, 02:09:44 PM
Quote from: AYR on September 19, 2017, 01:50:51 PM
It's not even just stans
Like everytime Billboard or Rolling Stone etc in the media does like
top R&B artist of the 90s or whatever, Aaliyah is always top 10
while Brandy is like in the 20s somewhere
and why does she have a biopic before Brandy, Mary, Usher, DC etc?
she was literally out between 93-01 that's 8 years.
I'm seriously not trying to hate, or downplay her greatness and legacy
but how can no one see how excessive her praise is?


Ray, she died at 22.  She was young and beautiful.  That plays a huge part in the strength of her memory.  We never got to see her age, make too many mistakes, or live in a social media world that would have humanized her.  Aaliyah died in an era where mystique existed, and stars feeling like Gods was still a thing.  We didn't go to TMZ or TheShadeRoom to get the news of her death.  We heard it on the radio or by word of mouth.  It was just a different time.  So, that's still the realm she resides in whether you like it or not. 


This is very beautiful.

You know what's funny?  I have fallen into the same traps Ray is falling in by letting the stan war stuff piss me off.  "If Aaliyah was around, there'd be no Beyonce!" and all that mess.

But once you separate all that stuff from the actual artist, Aaliyah's influence and impact is undeniable.

ReVon

It baffles me how people argue where Aaliyah would be today.
Yall get heated as hell like the woman is alive and well, taking over the industry.
The fact of the matter is, WE WILL NEVER KNOW.
To sit on the net and create a fairytale of what here life and relevance
would be today is asinine af. And Aaliyah was never all that SUPER popular anyway.
She did what she was here to do for the time she was here.
Let that lady rest in peace.


Young



XXX.

Quote from: AYR on September 19, 2017, 02:30:49 PM
Quote from: XXX. on September 19, 2017, 02:27:55 PM
Quote from: AYR on September 19, 2017, 02:21:39 PM
Quote from: XXX. on September 19, 2017, 02:09:44 PM
Quote from: AYR on September 19, 2017, 01:50:51 PM
It's not even just stans
Like everytime Billboard or Rolling Stone etc in the media does like
top R&B artist of the 90s or whatever, Aaliyah is always top 10
while Brandy is like in the 20s somewhere
and why does she have a biopic before Brandy, Mary, Usher, DC etc?
she was literally out between 93-01 that's 8 years.
I'm seriously not trying to hate, or downplay her greatness and legacy
but how can no one see how excessive her praise is?

But doesn't that speak more to Aaliyah's musical influence and impact?  You just got done saying in a previous post that other artists don't get this much fanfare posthumous, but apparently, she did something during her time living that still has her presence felt today.

Ray, she died at 22.  She was young and beautiful.  That plays a huge part in the strength of her memory.  We never got to see her age, make too many mistakes, or live in a social media world that would have humanized her.  Aaliyah died in an era where mystique existed, and stars feeling like Gods was still a thing.  We didn't go to TMZ or TheShadeRoom to get the news of her death.  We heard it on the radio or by word of mouth.  It was just a different time.  So, that's still the realm she resides in whether you like it or not. 

I think what you're in denial about is her impact on the culture.  Whether it's a vocal, production, or outfit, we still reference Aaliyah when we see and hear it in other artists.  Racking your brain over sales, stats & years in is apparently irrelevant, because there's no way you can prove she still wouldn't place high on these lists had she not died.

You can't debate her impact, because Aaliyah will win every time.
I never debated her impact though that's the thing
but then again I just wonder as we all do and no one has the answer
would ppl still be referencing her if she were alive to the level that they are?
It's just all kind of crazy to me, seems like the shock of what happened to her
caused her to be way more highly regarded, impactful etc
than her work itself

But are you not questioning her impact when asking why she's placed higher on lists than other artists or why she has a film and they don't?
Im moreso questioning why she has the impact for that stuff
not if she actually has it because that's quite obvious

I feel like you're not giving enough credit to her being the vessel for new sounds and production in R&B that Tim and Missy helped her create.  She also does not have that much music, so her catalog feels tighter and more classic.  There's no real flops or missteps, and it adds weight to her as an artist.  You can't really be mad at that, because it means while she was living, she was getting it right.

Records like "One In A Million" & "Are You That Somebody" were WTF! moments when they dropped.  Give her that!  She may have been lowkey, but she helped to shift the genre forward.  And that's why she gets so much critical acclaim.

Aalonso.

Quote from: ALEON on September 19, 2017, 02:37:58 PM
It baffles me how people argue where Aaliyah would be today.
Yall get heated as hell like the woman is alive and well, taking over the industry.
The fact of the matter is, WE WILL NEVER KNOW.
To sit on the net and create a fairytale of what here life and relevance
would be today is asinine af. And Aaliyah was never all that SUPER popular anyway.
She did what she was here to do for the time she was here.
Let that lady rest in peace.


n

FUME!

You're doing the same thing you just fumed about.

So keep fuming.

Aalonso.

Quote from: Young on September 19, 2017, 02:38:57 PM
Someone is pissed

The way he keep hopping out his chair fjdjdjdjdjd. Tie your shoes first.

Harlem

Quote from: BowDown on September 19, 2017, 12:56:03 PM
Quote from: Harlem on September 18, 2017, 11:29:40 PM
Two Eleven Brandy could've been the 3rd girl... I mean no other bitch talent wise stood a chance when she was hungry during that time and if she would've kept going...
:stressed:
Please stop with this truth.
:stressed:

I means it's facts thou! Brandy's full potential is so mind blowing to me
:stressed:

Young

Quote from: L0NZ. on September 19, 2017, 02:41:40 PM
Quote from: Young on September 19, 2017, 02:38:57 PM
Someone is pissed

The way he keep hopping out his chair fjdjdjdjdjd. Tie your shoes first.

Dbdbdbdbfbfbfbfbfbffbfbff


Young

Quote from: Harlem on September 19, 2017, 02:42:17 PM
Quote from: BowDown on September 19, 2017, 12:56:03 PM
Quote from: Harlem on September 18, 2017, 11:29:40 PM
Two Eleven Brandy could've been the 3rd girl... I mean no other bitch talent wise stood a chance when she was hungry during that time and if she would've kept going...
:stressed:
Please stop with this truth.
:stressed:

I means it's facts thou! Brandy's full potential is so mind blowing to me
:stressed:

!!!!!

That's how I feel about all 5 of my girls

They really are the best of the best 😭