I think I've finally let go of the idea that Brandy will have this epic comeback in music, but I hate that she is now just reduced to her classics in the public eye. I feel like this really will be the new normal for Brandy fans/stans and we will just get a couple new songs every other year. Idek see her making albums anymore once she reaches her 50s.
Is she ever coming back? She's been MIA since December and we're heading into June. I think she needs to make a choice when it comes to her music career, either push through or just make a retirement announcement and commit to acting fulltime. These limbo periods are exhausting.
:ummwhat:
She's like 45 and her biggest hits were in the 90s/2000s - do you really need to ask?
Quote from: Gilgamesh. on May 23, 2023, 04:55:01 AMShe's like 45 and her biggest hits were in the 90s/2000s - do you really need to ask?
It's just unfortunate...
Quote from: Gilgamesh. on May 23, 2023, 04:55:01 AMShe's like 45 and her biggest hits were in the 90s/2000s - do you really need to ask?
It shouldn't be this way though. Smh
In Brandy's defense, even her peers who kept dropping music more consistently than her are looked at as legacy acts now too (Ush, Monica & Mya, etc.)... so it kinda speak volumes that Brandy's name still holds weight in this generation and she still gets looked at higher than the latter two
I'm just happy that she looks good again, her team is getting smarter with her moves, and her talent continues to improve as she grows... if there's one thing Brandy is, she's a damn student
Quote from: Gilgamesh. on May 23, 2023, 04:55:01 AMShe's like 45 and her biggest hits were in the 90s/2000s - do you really need to ask?
like :dead:
Of course. And although it's unfair that artists (particularly female and/or black artists) have a shelf-life, she's very fortunate to have a legacy let alone the actual legacy that she has.
Quote from: Big Barbie on May 23, 2023, 08:57:38 AMOf course. And although it's unfair that artists (particularly female and/or black artists) have a shelf-life, she's very fortunate to have a legacy let alone the actually legacy that she has.
lemme introduce u to the "don't set urself up for disappointment" starter kit
- don't wait around for new music announcements
- enjoy the massive body of work GHan has created already . A lot of the tea is timeless . Especially the unreleased gems
- don't wait around for new music announcements
- don't read too far into her seemingly cryptic bio edits and posts
- shade Monica at every given opportunity .
works just fine fa me :cheerup:
Quote from: 325 on May 23, 2023, 09:32:58 AMlemme introduce u to the "don't set urself up for disappointment" starter kit
- don't wait around for new music announcements
- enjoy the massive body of work GHan has created already . A lot of the tea is timeless . Especially the unreleased gems
- don't wait around for new music announcements
- don't read too far into her seemingly cryptic bio edits and posts
- shade Monica at every given opportunity .
works just fine fa me :cheerup:
cvbbvvbbvvbbbbb
Yes, and that's fine.
Every big artist will cool down and become a legacy act at some point.
No one stays on top forever y'all
Quote from: NEW MOON on May 22, 2023, 11:37:48 PMIs she ever coming back? She's been MIA since December and we're heading into June. I think she needs to make a choice when it comes to her music career, either push through or just make a retirement announcement and commit to acting fulltime. These limbo periods are exhausting.
This is so entitled and bratty.
Quote from: NEW MOON on May 23, 2023, 05:06:54 AMQuote from: Gilgamesh. on May 23, 2023, 04:55:01 AMShe's like 45 and her biggest hits were in the 90s/2000s - do you really need to ask?
It's just unfortunate...
it's a blessing if anything
:unsure:
Quote from: Harlem on May 23, 2023, 08:54:11 AMIn Brandy's defense, even her peers who kept dropping music more consistently than her are looked at as legacy acts now too (Ush, Monica & Mya, etc.)... so it kinda speak volumes that Brandy's name still holds weight in this generation and she still gets looked at higher than the latter two
I'm just happy that she looks good again, her team is getting smarter with her moves, and her talent continues to improve as she grows... if there's one thing Brandy is, she's a damn student
Yeah her team is doing great especially her agent but they should rethink allowing her to go MIA on social media for months. Consistent engagement will grow her followers. Several actors have said for years producers are making casting decisions based on follower numbers. Elle Fanning just spoke ab how she didn't get a major role over the other actress having more followers. The MIA stuff doesn't work for acting. The public needs to be engaged w her prior to studio scheduled press runs.
Brandy's music and acting career definitely could've gone a lot further I think if it weren't for many things, maybe especially certain choices she's made in her personal life and unfortunate circumstances. It's good that she's aware of this (I've heard her talk about it) but it was no doubt painful for her to accept and maybe still is. But that's all water under the bridge now and shoulda coulda woulda. It is what it is. I think she was used to being ..a hit maker .like on the charts and when that changed, she probably feels like why rush to put out music when it's not even appreciated. She is really something else.
i don't think usher is looked at as a legacy act
She needs to do a Vegas show like Usher
Quote from: ivorian oph on May 23, 2023, 10:26:04 AMi don't think usher is looked at as a legacy act
Usher hasn't had a hit in years and he's doing a Vegas residency performing all his old hits.
I would say he is.
Quote from: Nine on May 23, 2023, 10:34:00 AMQuote from: ivorian oph on May 23, 2023, 10:26:04 AMi don't think usher is looked at as a legacy act
Usher hasn't had a hit in years and he's doing a Vegas residency performing all his old hits.
I would say he is.
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Quote from: Nine on May 23, 2023, 10:34:00 AMQuote from: ivorian oph on May 23, 2023, 10:26:04 AMi don't think usher is looked at as a legacy act
Usher hasn't had a hit in years and he's doing a Vegas residency performing all his old hits.
I would say he is.
I kinda agree but I think, despite the fact his music as been very hit and miss since like Raymond v Raymond, he's does a great job of remaining semi-relevant.
Beyoncé is a legacy act but she also slays the current scene too.
Usher definitely goes quiet for extended periods of time. I'd actually argue that during B7, Cinderella anniversary, Queens era Brandy was more present then all of her peers.
Brandy could be more active on social media like Monica, but that gets stale after awhile. When Brandy pops out it's a moment because she never does.
Brandy is a legacy act but that's to be expected. I don't see it as a bad thing. I do feel she'll have her Cher Believe in Love moment where she strikes gold later in her career. Acting will keep her afloat in the mean time. She's good
Quote from: Big Barbie on May 23, 2023, 10:38:24 AMBeyoncé is a legacy act but she also slays the current scene too.
I wouldn't consider Bey a legacy act tbh.
Quote from: Saint on May 23, 2023, 10:23:59 AMBrandy's music and acting career definitely could've gone a lot further
:unsure:
Quote from: Big Barbie on May 23, 2023, 10:38:24 AMBeyoncé is a legacy act but she also slays the current scene too.
No she isn't :plzstop:
Beyoncé is very much so mainstream
Yeah, Brandy knows all this. She knows things would be much easier for her if she didn't end so many previous relationships.
She might never have the comeback that we want for her. But Brandy seems to be in a great space and will be fine. Considering she is doing all this alone and not a part of some industry clique is pretty inspiring for sure. I wish her well.
Quote from: Big Barbie on May 23, 2023, 10:38:24 AMBeyoncé is a legacy act but she also slays the current scene too.
r u retarded
Yes she is and there's nothing wrong with that.
Quote from: GYNandTONIC on May 23, 2023, 10:49:49 AMUsher definitely goes quiet for extended periods of time. I'd actually argue that during B7, Cinderella anniversary, Queens era Brandy was more present then all of her peers.
Brandy could be more active on social media like Monica, but that gets stale after awhile. When Brandy pops out it's a moment because she never does.
Brandy is a legacy act but that's to be expected. I don't see it as a bad thing. I do feel she'll have her Cher Believe in Love moment where she strikes gold later in her career. Acting will keep her afloat in the mean time. She's good
Bran has to rethink the MIA stuff ASAP. It's fine for music but for acting it doesn't work. Her name carries weight in hollywood which is why she does get some nice productions but in order for her to get access to certain roles by becoming a box office star as top billed she has to up her profile (visibility).
Actors are losing out on major roles bc a studio doesn't feel they have enough followers. Elle Fanning just said the below:
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"I did try out for...I'm not going to say what it was, but I didn't get a part once for something big because, it might not have just been this reason, but this was the feedback that I heard, was because I didn't have enough Instagram followers at the time," she said. "So that was a little like...I firmly don't believe in not getting a part [for that].
Fanning has more than six million followers on Instagram alone. She currently stars in Hulu's "The Great," opposite Nicholas Hoult.
Beyoncé is not a legacy act
Maybe we have two different definitions then. How are you guys classifying? To me a legacy artist is someone whose body of work will keep them making money no matter if they release anymore..
You're suffering for 2 reasons:
1. Because she doesn't need the money, and even if she does need more she has acting options which is better than the music industry. Girls like Lalah Hathaway, Fantasia, and Mya keep their fans fed by releasing new music and touring cause they have to. For the most part music was their only avenue to make money and they never had a slew of major brand deals.
2. The passion is not there. She has nothing to prove. She's an amazing vocalist but she was never an artist outside of the studio. Brandy's vocal arrangements is where her artistry ends. She doesn't care about visuals and live shows like a Gaga, Janelle Monae etc. She was a teenager who had dreams of being a megastar like Whitney Houston, mission accomplished. She was a teen pop star, we all just lucked out by actually being able to witness her mature into a superb influential vocalist. Brandy has a love for music and recording but it ends in the studio where she let's it all out. She's not that artist that's dying inside if her precious art isn't being released to the public or if she doesn't hit the stage.
Bonus: She's also not thirsty or desperate for fame and willing to do anything just to stay relevant. Ciara and Kelly Rowland are clear examples of that. Alternatively, look at how someone like Ashanti just goes out and makes her show money then goes right back to being on vacation despite being commercially viable.
fas is an act that needs to be held accountable .
that's what category she's under for sure .
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Quote from: PRESSED on May 23, 2023, 10:50:46 AMQuote from: Big Barbie on May 23, 2023, 10:38:24 AMBeyoncé is a legacy act but she also slays the current scene too.
No she isn't :plzstop:
at all
:dead:
and i agree that usher IS a legacy act, but i don't think he's really LOOKED AT as such. idk it's hard to explain
I think it's because even though he hasn't had an album out in a while. He still has a large presence at radio, award shows, etc. Things that make him seem more current imo.
Quote from: Big Barbie on May 23, 2023, 11:20:51 AMMaybe we have two different definitions then. How are you guys classifying? To me a legacy artist is someone whose body of work will keep them making money no matter if they release anymore..
A legacy act is someone who isn't really viable commercially anymore but can live off of past hits. Beyonce is still making hit records.
:unsure:
Quote from: PRESSED on May 23, 2023, 10:50:46 AMQuote from: Big Barbie on May 23, 2023, 10:38:24 AMBeyoncé is a legacy act but she also slays the current scene too.
No she isn't :plzstop:
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bow sis...
Bows answer is actually the most reasonable and balanced IMO
It makes sense
Fas definitely leans a lot on her legacy mess but she is still current .
Nicki will be in that category too in a few years if she keeps up the amazing work
how does bey lean heavily on her old mess? the only time we hear the mess is on tours (which is supposed to happen) and BARELY then because she got so much new mess to squeeze in
:uhh:
Just my opinionata
This entire "legacy act" thing is way too ambiguous and varied in personal definition to debate anyway
We could literally be talking about entirely different things
Quote from: NEW MOON on May 22, 2023, 11:37:48 PMI think I've finally let go of the idea that Brandy will have this epic comeback in music, but I hate that she is now just reduced to her classics in the public eye. I feel like this really will be the new normal for Brandy fans/stans and we will just get a couple new songs every other year. Idek see her making albums anymore once she reaches her 50s.
Is she ever coming back? She's been MIA since December and we're heading into June. I think she needs to make a choice when it comes to her music career, either push through or just make a retirement announcement and commit to acting fulltime. These limbo periods are exhausting.
You have to remember that she started off her professional career as an actress. Yeah she sung backgrounds but Thea came before the Atlantic signing. She said long time ago she prefers Hollywood over the music industry. She's making pretty good money when she acts & said she doesn't audition for stuff so her name carries weight in Hollywood. All Bran has to fix is her visibility problem. Would love to her get to the point where she's top billed for a summer blockbuster.
Quote from: 325 on May 23, 2023, 12:20:03 PMJust my opinionata
This entire "legacy act" thing is way too ambiguous
It's not lol
It is .
Someone could actually have a "legacy act" that's so strong that it could translate into a non-"legacy act"
Unless the artist in question is releasing #1 singles nonstop like a hot/new/trendy/current artist would , it's not that simple.
If you have to reference a tour every time to prove they are not a "legacy act". You could indeed be referring to a "legacy act" - just a VERY strong one .
I hope that makes sense
It doesn't bby but luh you :wub:
Quote from: JCJ on May 23, 2023, 12:37:57 PMIt doesn't bby b-
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the fuck u think this is
Quote from: 325 on May 23, 2023, 12:10:08 PMBows answer is actually the most reasonable and balanced IMO
It makes sense
Exactly, that's the way I interpreted and it makes perfect sense. Beyoncé and Nicki are legacy artists to me atp but they're both presently slaying commercially as well which is rare.
Quote from: 325 on May 23, 2023, 12:20:03 PMJust my opinionata
This entire "legacy act" thing is way too ambiguous and varied in personal definition to debate anyway
We could literally be talking about entirely different things
She shouldn't even be trying to chase the charts at this point in her career.
Brandy paid her dues. She can afford to just make music for the hell of it.
Actually releasing it is where the problem lies...
Quote from: Kalifornia. on May 23, 2023, 01:26:17 PMShe shouldn't even be trying to chase the charts at this point in her career.
Brandy paid her dues. She can afford to just make music for the hell of it.
Actually releasing it is where the problem lies...
Bow is so dumb :plzstop:
Quote from: 325 on May 23, 2023, 12:20:03 PMJust my opinionata
i know but i'm asking HOW. like, in what way does she "heavily lean" on her older hits ?
:ATLcameo:
Do we really need to ask that question when she literally has songs that directly and explicitly reference her legacy
One of those songs actually being someone's username on here
If that's not a "legacy act" I don't know what is
I don't feel like reading the OP again. But isn't a legacy act just another term for a Nostalgia Act which is someone washed up ?
:overit:
Quote from: JCJ on May 23, 2023, 01:48:59 PMBow is so dumb :plzstop:
I said what the fuck I said. A legacy act doesn't automatically mean no longer commercially successful in the present-tense although that's usually the case.
Do you have to have a good catalog with classics to be a legacy act? If so, Nicki isn't one.
Quote from: Big Barbie on May 23, 2023, 02:30:05 PMQuote from: JCJ on May 23, 2023, 01:48:59 PMBow is so dumb :plzstop:
I said what the fuck I said. A legacy act doesn't automatically mean no longer commercially successful in the present-tense although that's usually the case.
there are clearly varying definitions of this "legacy act" thing and Jay swears there isn't
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People in here are defining it differently and that's why there's confusion as to who it should and shouldn't be assigned to
Is that not obvious ?
And that's not shade. I'm trying to think of the Nicki classics and drawing blank. Like the ones that stick like grits. Moment For Life is my fav and is an anthem song admittedly, but All I'm coming up with are my favorite featured verses by her
Legacy act sounds like a book to me
Quote from: Big Barbie on May 23, 2023, 10:38:24 AMBeyoncé is a legacy act but she also slays the current scene too.
Quote from: PRESSED on May 23, 2023, 10:50:46 AMQuote from: Big Barbie on May 23, 2023, 10:38:24 AMBeyoncé is a legacy act but she also slays the current scene too.
No she isn't :plzstop:
I'm about to backhand her
"Legacy act" is viewed as derogatory in the industry, is it not? :uhh:
Especially for someone who is Brandy's age
Quote from: ivorian oph on May 23, 2023, 11:31:47 AMand i agree that usher IS a legacy act, but i don't think he's really LOOKED AT as such. idk it's hard to explain
Agreed.
It's cause he keeps himself out there. Performing on popular platforms (Tiny Desk) and collaborating with the current generation (City Girls, Summer Walker).
Quote from: Ｂｏｏｍｚ on May 23, 2023, 02:48:30 PM"Legacy act" is viewed as derogatory in the industry, is it not? :uhh:
Especially for someone who is Brandy's age
to some people (immature stans), maybe. But in general, no.
Quote from: Aamerica Has A Problem on May 23, 2023, 02:31:58 PMDo you have to have a good catalog with classics to be a legacy act? If so, Nicki isn't one.
shim def ain't one either
her first mug is a legacy act tho
Quote from: 325 on May 23, 2023, 02:32:54 PMQuote from: Big Barbie on May 23, 2023, 02:30:05 PMQuote from: JCJ on May 23, 2023, 01:48:59 PMBow is so dumb :plzstop:
I said what the fuck I said. A legacy act doesn't automatically mean no longer commercially successful in the present-tense although that's usually the case.
there are clearly varying definitions of this "legacy act" thing and Jay swears there isn't
Fnnfnfnfnf
People in here are defining it differently and that's why there's confusion as to who it should and shouldn't be assigned to
Is that not obvious ?
We all are more or less saying the same thing
I don't think legacy act has to be bad thing, especially if you have catalogue like Brandy. It's annoying because out of all the girls she came up with she's the only one who's voice and sound really translates to today's radio.
Quote from: BAPHOMET. on May 23, 2023, 02:21:47 PMI don't feel like reading the OP again. But isn't a legacy act just another term for a Nostalgia Act which is someone washed up ?
:overit:
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Yes.
https://www.altpress.com/next-legacy-artists-paramore-bring-me-the-horizon-lil-peep/#:~:text=The%20%E2%80%9Clegacy%E2%80%9D%20title%20for%20rock,and%20incapable%20of%20making%20music.
It screams non-viable and elderly
Quote from: Ｂｏｏｍｚ on May 23, 2023, 02:48:30 PM"Legacy act" is viewed as derogatory in the industry, is it not? :uhh:
Especially for someone who is Brandy's age
I think it has a new meaning. Very similar to how a Vegas residency has a completely different meaning today than it did when Elvis was doing it.
Quote from: Gilgamesh. on May 23, 2023, 02:58:32 PMI don't think legacy act has to be bad thing, especially if you have catalogue like Brandy. It's annoying because out of all the girls she came up with she's the only one who's voice and sound really translates to today's radio.
Maybe that's why I'm so resistant to the term.
Like Usher, Brandy can still have a cute R&B hit and get booked for popular platforms
Quote from: Ｂｏｏｍｚ on May 23, 2023, 02:43:20 PMQuote from: Big Barbie on May 23, 2023, 10:38:24 AMBeyoncé is a legacy act but she also slays the current scene too.
Quote from: PRESSED on May 23, 2023, 10:50:46 AMQuote from: Big Barbie on May 23, 2023, 10:38:24 AMBeyoncé is a legacy act but she also slays the current scene too.
No she isn't :plzstop:
I'm about to backhand her
I hope she trolls us or something.
Nicki will be in that category too in a few years if she keeps up the amazing work
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No.
Beyoncé is very relevant and current.
Nicki isn't a legacy act either.
Brandy definitely is though.
I don't see legacy as being irrelevant nor do
I see anything negative with the term, artists just aren't in their prime. I simply relate it to longevity and reaching a certain level of success.
Quote from: 325 on May 23, 2023, 01:59:37 PMDo we really need to ask that question when she literally has songs that directly and explicitly reference her legacy
One of those songs actually being someone's username on here
If that's not a "legacy act" I don't know what is
are u referring to NEW songs?? bvvvvvvv
like, REFERENCING her old mess in a song or two is definitely not what's making her new mess sell. and to call that "heavily leaning" is quite intellectually dishonest imo
but ok, u answered my question thank u bby
Quote from: Big Barbie on May 23, 2023, 03:42:43 PMI don't see legacy as being irrelevant nor do
I see anything negative with the term, artists just aren't in their prime. I simply relate it to longevity and reaching a certain level of success.
And you're right my friend.
Now you know you're wrong :plzstop:
:kii: Nah seriously, he is right in what he thinks a legacy act is. I disagree with him about Beyonce being one tho. She's too a part of today's pop culture for her to be one IMO. But he is not wrong.
Quote from: JCJ on May 23, 2023, 04:58:11 PMNow you know you're wrong :plzstop:
Let me explain something to you
Quote from: JCJ on May 23, 2023, 04:58:11 PMNow you know you're wrong :plzstop:
Nevermind I thought that was Bow's original mess. Carry on
Quote from: Gilgamesh. on May 23, 2023, 10:08:04 AMQuote from: NEW MOON on May 22, 2023, 11:37:48 PMIs she ever coming back? She's been MIA since December and we're heading into June. I think she needs to make a choice when it comes to her music career, either push through or just make a retirement announcement and commit to acting fulltime. These limbo periods are exhausting.
This is so entitled and bratty.
So you came back and re-read it just to post this?
Let me sum up this thread: some replies desperately tried to depict a "legacy artist" as a has-been/washed-up artist but this was debunked.
Quote from: Big Barbie on May 23, 2023, 06:34:23 PMLet me sum up this thread: some replies desperate tried to depict a "legacy artist" as a has-been/washed-up artist but this was debunked.
:unsure:
Ggffffnn
Gorl plea'
Who made you the expert? :uhh:
Brandy can make a comeback to music but with the right sound. She just need the right song and producer.
Who, me?
Quote from: yearofbrandy on May 23, 2023, 06:47:14 PMBrandy can make a comeback to music but with the right sound. She just need the right song and producer.
She definitely has the potential
But I don't think it will happen unless an act of Divine intervention.
I've realized Brandy's problem isn't just music politics
Vaughn as her publicist for the last decade stunned me. Along with the her team pretty much being paid interns.
Along with the refusal to sing live, the resistance to put out music. Not wanting to let go of Frank Gatson.
Her contract with Chameleon was settled in 2017. Why couldn't we get two EP's in 2018/2019? And then the album release in 2020? Anyway...
Quote from: NEW MOON on May 23, 2023, 06:51:21 PMQuote from: yearofbrandy on May 23, 2023, 06:47:14 PMBrandy can make a comeback to music but with the right sound. She just need the right song and producer.
She definitely has the potential
But I don't think it will happen unless an act of Divine intervention.
I've realized Brandy's problem isn't just music politics
Vaughn as her publicist for the last decade stunned me. Along with the her team pretty much being paid interns.
Along with the refusal to sing live, the resistance to put out music. Not wanting to let go of Frank Gatson.
Her contract with Chameleon was settled in 2017. Why couldn't we get two EP's in 2018/2019? And then the album release in 2020? Anyway...
:omf:
Quote from: NEW MOON on May 23, 2023, 06:51:21 PMQuote from: yearofbrandy on May 23, 2023, 06:47:14 PMBrandy can make a comeback to music but with the right sound. She just need the right song and producer.
She definitely has the potential
But I don't think it will happen unless an act of Divine intervention.
I've realized Brandy's problem isn't just music politics
Vaughn as her publicist for the last decade stunned me. Along with the her team pretty much being paid interns.
Along with the refusal to sing live, the resistance to put out music. Not wanting to let go of Frank Gatson.
Her contract with Chameleon was settled in 2017. Why couldn't we get two EP's in 2018/2019? And then the album release in 2020? Anyway...
who was it that said they had a whole project with Brandy and she said "I changed my mind" at the last minute?
Lock this fucking thread now. :uhh:
Quote from: Ｂｏｏｍｚ on May 23, 2023, 06:41:27 PMGgffffnn
Gorl plea'
Who made you the expert? :uhh:
me
just PMed goddess her certificate a few mins ago
wat about it toots
Quote from: Harlem on May 23, 2023, 08:54:11 AMIn Brandy's defense, even her peers who kept dropping music more consistently than her are looked at as legacy acts now too (Ush, Monica & Mya, etc.)... so it kinda speak volumes that Brandy's name still holds weight in this generation and she still gets looked at higher than the latter two
I'm just happy that she looks good again, her team is getting smarter with her moves, and her talent continues to improve as she grows... if there's one thing Brandy is, she's a damn student
Idk about them dropping music more consistently than her, they all have the same number of albums and besides Usher they all have around the same number of singles. I think they all just stay in the public eye more than her now so it seems like they are more consistent, but fans of all of them are always waiting for music to drop.
That aside, yeah, they are all legacy acts at this point. They might get a hit nowadays, especially an "R&B hit", but people are still gonna mainly want to listen to their older music.
Quote from: Aamerica Has A Problem on May 23, 2023, 07:05:11 PMQuote from: NEW MOON on May 23, 2023, 06:51:21 PMQuote from: yearofbrandy on May 23, 2023, 06:47:14 PMBrandy can make a comeback to music but with the right sound. She just need the right song and producer.
She definitely has the potential
But I don't think it will happen unless an act of Divine intervention.
I've realized Brandy's problem isn't just music politics
Vaughn as her publicist for the last decade stunned me. Along with the her team pretty much being paid interns.
Along with the refusal to sing live, the resistance to put out music. Not wanting to let go of Frank Gatson.
Her contract with Chameleon was settled in 2017. Why couldn't we get two EP's in 2018/2019? And then the album release in 2020? Anyway...
who was it that said they had a whole project with Brandy and she said "I changed my mind" at the last minute?
Rico Love
I do feel like she's not as active in the scene as other artists. She barely attends any award shows and she barely goes to any movie premieres. Like she should've definitely been at the little mermaid premiere in LA. Dunno if she just refuses to do stuff like this or if her team is just trash. But then again it's kinda been like this for a long time.
Quote from: Kalifornia. on May 23, 2023, 01:26:17 PMShe shouldn't even be trying to chase the charts at this point in her career.
Brandy paid her dues. She can afford to just make music for the hell of it.
Actually releasing it is where the problem lies...
Quote from: Heated🔥 on May 23, 2023, 10:40:31 PMQuote from: Kalifornia. on May 23, 2023, 01:26:17 PMShe shouldn't even be trying to chase the charts at this point in her career.
Brandy paid her dues. She can afford to just make music for the hell of it.
Actually releasing it is where the problem lies...
Quote from: Kalifornia. on May 23, 2023, 07:20:44 PMQuote from: Aamerica Has A Problem on May 23, 2023, 07:05:11 PMQuote from: NEW MOON on May 23, 2023, 06:51:21 PMQuote from: yearofbrandy on May 23, 2023, 06:47:14 PMBrandy can make a comeback to music but with the right sound. She just need the right song and producer.
She definitely has the potential
But I don't think it will happen unless an act of Divine intervention.
I've realized Brandy's problem isn't just music politics
Vaughn as her publicist for the last decade stunned me. Along with the her team pretty much being paid interns.
Along with the refusal to sing live, the resistance to put out music. Not wanting to let go of Frank Gatson.
Her contract with Chameleon was settled in 2017. Why couldn't we get two EP's in 2018/2019? And then the album release in 2020? Anyway...
who was it that said they had a whole project with Brandy and she said "I changed my mind" at the last minute?
Rico Love
I want this thread locked.
Ghan if you're in here just drop an EP.
:unbothered:
Quote from: Heated🔥 on May 23, 2023, 10:35:20 PMI do feel like she's not as active in the scene as other artists. She barely attends any award shows and she barely goes to any movie premieres. Like she should've definitely been at the little mermaid premiere in LA. Dunno if she just refuses to do stuff like this or if her team is just trash. But then again it's kinda been like this for a long time.
As she was a former Black Disney Princess I was a little disappointed she ain't pull up to support Halle... that would've been a good look for her to pop out and on brand
Quote from: Harlem on May 23, 2023, 11:26:42 PMQuote from: Heated🔥 on May 23, 2023, 10:35:20 PMI do feel like she's not as active in the scene as other artists. She barely attends any award shows and she barely goes to any movie premieres. Like she should've definitely been at the little mermaid premiere in LA. Dunno if she just refuses to do stuff like this or if her team is just trash. But then again it's kinda been like this for a long time.
As she was a former Black Disney Princess I was a little disappointed she ain't pull up to support Halle... that would've been a good look for her to pop out and on brand
exactly and that would've been such an amazing moment. Halle has been praising her in so many interviews.
I think Brandy goes thru spiritual stuff
And she's extremely sensitive
BRANDY WAS AT HOME WRITING IN HER JOURNAL GIVING :sobusyjetsetter:
WHILE EVERYONE ELSE WAS AT THE LITTLE MERMAID PREMIERE :dead:
STAY MAD! :fuming:
Fffdx
NOT HER WRITING IN HER DIARY IN ALL CAPS
Quote from: DopeSoul. on May 23, 2023, 11:57:59 PMI think Brandy goes thru spiritual stuff
And she's extremely sensitive
I think Child stars don't fully recover from the dopamine burnout of being a teen sensation and then it fading out quickly. So the highs and lows come quickly. She started pulling back after the BET Awards performance.
Quote from: Aamerica Has A Problem on May 23, 2023, 07:05:11 PMQuote from: NEW MOON on May 23, 2023, 06:51:21 PMQuote from: yearofbrandy on May 23, 2023, 06:47:14 PMBrandy can make a comeback to music but with the right sound. She just need the right song and producer.
She definitely has the potential
But I don't think it will happen unless an act of Divine intervention.
I've realized Brandy's problem isn't just music politics
Vaughn as her publicist for the last decade stunned me. Along with the her team pretty much being paid interns.
Along with the refusal to sing live, the resistance to put out music. Not wanting to let go of Frank Gatson.
Her contract with Chameleon was settled in 2017. Why couldn't we get two EP's in 2018/2019? And then the album release in 2020? Anyway...
who was it that said they had a whole project with Brandy and she said "I changed my mind" at the last minute?
Rico Love :unsure:
What's wrong with having a legacy? :unsure:
Quote from: Lazarus on May 23, 2023, 10:58:08 AMYes she is and there's nothing wrong with that.
mxmxmxxcnxnxncncncn
Oh I missed this post. Laz, do we have a problem?
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Brandy with a better creative and marketing teams can really SHIT on a lot of her peers but I won't go down that rabbit hole
Quote from: Harlem on May 24, 2023, 07:47:03 AMBrandy with a better creative and marketing teams can really SHIT on a lot of her peers but I won't go down that rabbit hole
She told us on B7 it doesn't have anything to do with a team bro
Quote from: Big Barbie on May 24, 2023, 06:44:57 AMQuote from: Lazarus on May 23, 2023, 10:58:08 AMYes she is and there's nothing wrong with that.
mxmxmxxcnxnxncncncn
Oh I missed this post. Laz, do we have a problem?
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I was talking about Brandy.
n
Quote from: NEW MOON on May 24, 2023, 02:58:34 AMQuote from: DopeSoul. on May 23, 2023, 11:57:59 PMI think Brandy goes thru spiritual stuff
And she's extremely sensitive
I think Child stars don't fully recover from the dopamine burnout of being a teen sensation and then it fading out quickly. So the highs and lows come quickly. She started pulling back after the BET Awards performance.
I play competitive sports and I have had my biggest bouts of depression right after a tournament because I often do not know when the next time I'm going to feel like that is. Doesn't matter if I win or lose, it has to do with the fact that I'm not playing as much as I want to, not competing, while seemingly everyone else is. If that makes sense. I've always related to Brandy in that way, at least I think so.
Quote from: Lazarus on May 24, 2023, 08:57:32 AMQuote from: Big Barbie on May 24, 2023, 06:44:57 AMQuote from: Lazarus on May 23, 2023, 10:58:08 AMYes she is and there's nothing wrong with that.
mxmxmxxcnxnxncncncn
Oh I missed this post. Laz, do we have a problem?
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I was talking about Brandy.
Oh I'm sorry my beautiful King!
@Justaway_ 's messy ass falsely connected your post.
that's right
call his ass to the carpet
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i mean, if we keepin it real
in this day and age
there's really no EXCUSE for bran to not be releasing music in some capacity. it's 2023, and sis has the chops and resources to record some mess at HOME and release it independently. she just doesn't WANT to. which, for what it's worth, is better than recording album after album and not releasing SHIT *cough*monica*cough*
they're both a mess, tbh. kelly too. this hoe said she was releasing every quarter last year
:omf:
Quote from: ivorian oph on May 24, 2023, 11:06:28 AMi mean, if we keepin it real
in this day and age
there's really no EXCUSE for bran to not be releasing music in some capacity. sis has the chops and resources to record some mess at HOME and release it independently. she just doesn't WANT to.
Yea
I feel like Brandy has a lot of industry stories. She needs to gone head and write her book
Quote from: ivorian oph on May 24, 2023, 11:06:28 AMi mean, if we keepin it real
in this day and age
there's really no EXCUSE for bran to not be releasing music in some capacity. it's 2023, and sis has the chops and resources to record some mess at HOME and release it independently. she just doesn't WANT to. which, for what it's worth, is better than recording album after album and not releasing SHIT *cough*monica*cough*
they're both a mess, tbh. kelly too. this hoe said she was releasing every quarter last year
:omf:
MONICA IS HILARIOUS. BUT I ACTUALLY THINK IT'S A METHOD TO HER MADNESS. :fuming:
Quote from: ivorian oph on May 24, 2023, 11:06:28 AMi mean, if we keepin it real
in this day and age
there's really no EXCUSE for bran to not be releasing music in some capacity. it's 2023, and sis has the chops and resources to record some mess at HOME and release it independently. she just doesn't WANT to. which, for what it's worth, is better than recording album after album and not releasing SHIT *cough*monica*cough*
they're both a mess, tbh. kelly too. this hoe said she was releasing every quarter last year
:omf:
This is how I feel.
There's no reason Brandy can't be dropping music regularly. Other than the fact that she doesn't want to, and that's fine. Just be honest with your fans and stop hiding behind lies or blaming the label.
She went indie and nothing changed, which leads me to believe the excuses in the past were bullshit.
It's all her.
Quote from: Aamerica Has A Problem on May 24, 2023, 11:33:34 AMI feel like Brandy has a lot of industry stories. She needs to gone head and write her book
This too
Honestly I hope Nelly Furtado's comeback hits and it inspires Brandy to get out of her own ass. I wanna see the most confident Brandy ever when she comes back out.
She's still hot. She's still immensely talented. She's still got her own sound. Despite the troubles, she's still loved by many. Times a ticking though...
It cost money to put out music.What is the point when it doesn't get the support it should and people just compare to your older stuff.
And I am speaking on the general public.
I blame Stacy Barthe
It costs money but girls like Dawn & other indie artists release on the regular.
Are they more coined than Brandy?
Quote from: Kalifornia. on May 24, 2023, 05:19:39 PMIt costs money but girls like Dawn & other indie artists release on the regular.
Are they more coined than Brandy?
had Sonja been-
What did Stacy do tho?
Claude Kelly just tweeted this about Queen. She's had a great career lol the whole "comeback" thing is stupid to me.
https://twitter.com/claudekelly/status/1661438184838889489
Now I do agree about her touring more.She hasn't even done spot date in a while.
Quote from: rosone1 on May 24, 2023, 05:15:37 PMIt cost money to put out music.What is the point when it doesn't get the support it should and people just compare to your older stuff.
And I am speaking on the general public.
!!!
I think she was disappointed with the B7 sales and said fuck music
ghan had one foot owt the door for a while now
lets not act "should i go" never happened
bitch the way i was at the edge of my SEAT listening to that mess for the first time
that BITCH. sfsfsfsfsfsf :plzstop: and she had the nerve to put that song last AND wait to the end of the song to be like "ill stay a lil longer lolz"
im inclined to believe shes not far off from feeling the way in 2023 that she felt during the recording of that song
listen to the lyrics. still relevant for her today IMO
GODfrodisiac is fucking genius
:unsure:
Quote from: 𝖘𝖖𝖚𝖎𝖉 on May 24, 2023, 05:40:30 PMQuote from: rosone1 on May 24, 2023, 05:15:37 PMIt cost money to put out music.What is the point when it doesn't get the support it should and people just compare to your older stuff.
And I am speaking on the general public.
!!!
I think she was disappointed with the B7 sales and said fuck music
She shouldn't though considering B7 has over 100 million streams on Spotify. For an indie release that's amazing.
YALL DON'T HAVE ONE CLUE HOW THAT LADY FEELS ABOUT THAT ALBUM.
JUST BE MAKING SHIT UP :plzstop: :kii: :dead:
Quote from: Say-Something-ReVon on May 25, 2023, 09:56:16 AMYALL DON'T HAVE ONE CLUE HOW THAT LADY FEELS ABOUT THAT ALBUM.
JUST BE MAKING SHIT UP :plzstop: :kii: :dead:
bnnnnnnnnnnnnbhh
Idk how/why she would feel like B7 wasn't a success.
:unsure:
Quote from: Brandy's Unconditional Ocean on May 24, 2023, 05:28:36 PMClaude Kelly just tweeted this about Queen. She's had a great career lol the whole "comeback" thing is stupid to me.
https://twitter.com/claudekelly/status/1661438184838889489
Is he on B-Source?! Wtf type of on point tweet is this :plzstop:
Quote from: Kalifornia. on May 24, 2023, 05:19:39 PMIt costs money but girls like Dawn & other indie artists release on the regular.
Are they more coined than Brandy?
No, just more ambitious.
Quote from: Harlem on May 25, 2023, 03:51:12 PMQuote from: Brandy's Unconditional Ocean on May 24, 2023, 05:28:36 PMClaude Kelly just tweeted this about Queen. She's had a great career lol the whole "comeback" thing is stupid to me.
https://twitter.com/claudekelly/status/1661438184838889489
Is he on B-Source?! Wtf type of on point tweet is this :plzstop:
Literally what I was just talking about
Quote from: Brandy's Unconditional Ocean on May 24, 2023, 05:28:36 PMClaude Kelly just tweeted this about Queen. She's had a great career lol the whole "comeback" thing is stupid to me.
https://twitter.com/claudekelly/status/1661438184838889489
But how so? She lips at every chance since 2006
I think Bran's way too afraid of failure. In every sense.
She wants to thrive and succeed, masters the hell out of her craft, records at every opportunity but when she's about to release or promote, starts to doubt herself, her own product and waits for "the right time" too long until said momentum's possibility is long gone. The same fear that causes her to lipsync that often.
Quote from: Justaway_ on May 25, 2023, 09:04:08 PMI think Bran's way too afraid of failure. In every sense.
She wants to thrive and succeed, masters the hell out of her craft, records at every opportunity but when she's about to release or promote, starts to doubt herself, her own product and waits for "the right time" too long until said momentum's possibility is long gone. The same fear that causes her to lipsync that often.
Quote from: NEW MOON on May 23, 2023, 06:51:21 PMQuote from: yearofbrandy on May 23, 2023, 06:47:14 PMBrandy can make a comeback to music but with the right sound. She just need the right song and producer.
She definitely has the potential
But I don't think it will happen unless an act of Divine intervention.
I've realized Brandy's problem isn't just music politics
Vaughn as her publicist for the last decade stunned me. Along with the her team pretty much being paid interns.
Along with the refusal to sing live, the resistance to put out music. Not wanting to let go of Frank Gatson.
Her contract with Chameleon was settled in 2017. Why couldn't we get two EP's in 2018/2019? And then the album release in 2020? Anyway...
Brandy is repped by CAA. No entertainer deciding to be repped by them has hired paid interns. It's the top agency in the biz. If she was into having paid interns she would be like some entertainers who choose not to have an agent.
Her cousin is no slouch either. He's been managing Metro Boomin for a few years who just headlined at Coachella, has multiple #1s, who just did the soundtrack for the upcoming Spiderman movie & has numerous brand deals. He also manages Vory who is one of the most popular artists in the industry.
Her team is clearly good bc every time ppl think her career is over they keep landing major opportunities.
No entertainer just lands a partnership w Disney somebody on her team bagged her that. She went from only acting every 3 years to now landing roles every year since 2021 has to do w the clout she has in hollywood & her agent. Can't wait to see what else they've been working on bc clearly a lot is in the pipeline for her. No one on here thought they were lining her up to do more endorsements.
Also, many of you have to get over the fake concern for music. It's simply not her passion. It's really okay that she's not in love with it. She started in 93'. Many singers/actors would love the opportunity to have the choice not to do something. That's a privilege that she has. Even w acting the fact that she's in the position to take the roles she wants instead of having to take everything is beautiful. Love that for her.
Quote from: Murrah on May 23, 2023, 11:22:47 AMYou're suffering for 2 reasons:
1. Because she doesn't need the money, and even if she does need more she has acting options which is better than the music industry. Girls like Lalah Hathaway, Fantasia, and Mya keep their fans fed by releasing new music and touring cause they have to. For the most part music was their only avenue to make money and they never had a slew of major brand deals.
2. The passion is not there. She has nothing to prove. She's an amazing vocalist but she was never an artist outside of the studio. Brandy's vocal arrangements is where her artistry ends. She doesn't care about visuals and live shows like a Gaga, Janelle Monae etc. She was a teenager who had dreams of being a megastar like Whitney Houston, mission accomplished. She was a teen pop star, we all just lucked out by actually being able to witness her mature into a superb influential vocalist. Brandy has a love for music and recording but it ends in the studio where she let's it all out. She's not that artist that's dying inside if her precious art isn't being released to the public or if she doesn't hit the stage.
Bonus: She's also not thirsty or desperate for fame and willing to do anything just to stay relevant. Ciara and Kelly Rowland are clear examples of that. Alternatively, look at how someone like Ashanti just goes out and makes her show money then goes right back to being on vacation despite being commercially viable.
Bran really is in the sweet spot in her career to do WTF she wants.
Don't want to perform, doesn't have to. Don't want to put out music, doesn't have to. Don't want to go to events, doesn't have to. A lot of entertainers would love to have such a privilege.
Despite her being an introvert she's still managing to land endorsement deals & good roles. Even w acting Bran doesn't have much movie experience especially lead roles but she's still booking great roles which says a lot. Someone like her is making 6 figures an epi for TV so why would she go trot herself on stage when she can simply sit on a set & agree to an endorsement & make way more money doing that.
Quote from: Say-Something-ReVon on May 24, 2023, 02:26:00 PMQuote from: ivorian oph on May 24, 2023, 11:06:28 AMi mean, if we keepin it real
in this day and age
there's really no EXCUSE for bran to not be releasing music in some capacity. it's 2023, and sis has the chops and resources to record some mess at HOME and release it independently. she just doesn't WANT to. which, for what it's worth, is better than recording album after album and not releasing SHIT *cough*monica*cough*
they're both a mess, tbh. kelly too. this hoe said she was releasing every quarter last year
:omf:
MONICA IS HILARIOUS. BUT I ACTUALLY THINK IT'S A METHOD TO HER MADNESS. :fuming:
She's COMING
Quote from: rosone1 on May 24, 2023, 05:37:43 PMNow I do agree about her touring more.She hasn't even done spot date in a while.
I've yet to see her live and I don't LIKE that
I was suppose to be at that DC show too ..
Quote from: Big Barbie on May 25, 2023, 09:56:46 AMQuote from: Say-Something-ReVon on May 25, 2023, 09:56:16 AMYALL DON'T HAVE ONE CLUE HOW THAT LADY FEELS ABOUT THAT ALBUM.
JUST BE MAKING SHIT UP :plzstop: :kii: :dead:
bnnnnnnnnnnnnbhh
Sbdddddddd
Quote from: Brandy's Unconditional Ocean on May 24, 2023, 05:28:36 PMClaude Kelly just tweeted this about Queen. She's had a great career lol the whole "comeback" thing is stupid to me.
https://twitter.com/claudekelly/status/1661438184838889489
I'm confused too ab what she needs to "comeback" for in music. Even w only 7 albums & barely performing her name rolls off of her peers mouths throughout the year. All she has to do now is continuing to build up her Broadway & Hollywood legacies.
She's at the point in her career where she has to establish herself as a serious actress. She needs a Brendan Fraser moment & that's clearly what her team is working on.
WELL, AT LEAST SHE IS A CONVERSATION. THAT IS HUGE IN TODAYS OVER POPULATED INDUSTRY :plzstop: :kii: :dead:
Quote from: Justaway_ on May 25, 2023, 09:04:08 PMI think Bran's way too afraid of failure. In every sense.
She wants to thrive and succeed, masters the hell out of her craft, records at every opportunity but when she's about to release or promote, starts to doubt herself, her own product and waits for "the right time" too long until said momentum's possibility is long gone. The same fear that causes her to lipsync that often.
This!..... Brandy has always been trying to recapture her glory years of when she was a teen, she desperately wants the public to love her again like in the 90s,and she sees failure of her music projects as rejection from the public
She's a legacy act and it's nothing wrong with that. Hell I honestly think Mary is a legacy act now too.
Quote from: Summertime on May 26, 2023, 11:37:22 AMQuote from: NEW MOON on May 23, 2023, 06:51:21 PMQuote from: yearofbrandy on May 23, 2023, 06:47:14 PMBrandy can make a comeback to music but with the right sound. She just need the right song and producer.
She definitely has the potential
But I don't think it will happen unless an act of Divine intervention.
I've realized Brandy's problem isn't just music politics
Vaughn as her publicist for the last decade stunned me. Along with the her team pretty much being paid interns.
Along with the refusal to sing live, the resistance to put out music. Not wanting to let go of Frank Gatson.
Her contract with Chameleon was settled in 2017. Why couldn't we get two EP's in 2018/2019? And then the album release in 2020? Anyway...
Brandy is repped by CAA. No entertainer deciding to be repped by them has hired paid interns. It's the top agency in the biz. If she was into having paid interns she would be like some entertainers who choose not to have an agent.
Her cousin is no slouch either. He's been managing Metro Boomin for a few years who just headlined at Coachella, has multiple #1s, who just did the soundtrack for the upcoming Spiderman movie & has numerous brand deals. He also manages Vory who is one of the most popular artists in the industry.
Her team is clearly good bc every time ppl think her career is over they keep landing major opportunities.
No entertainer just lands a partnership w Disney somebody on her team bagged her that. She went from only acting every 3 years to now landing roles every year since 2021 has to do w the clout she has in hollywood & her agent. Can't wait to see what else they've been working on bc clearly a lot is in the pipeline for her. No one on here thought they were lining her up to do more endorsements.
Also, many of you have to get over the fake concern for music. It's simply not her passion. It's really okay that she's not in love with it. She started in 93'. Many singers/actors would love the opportunity to have the choice not to do something. That's a privilege that she has. Even w acting the fact that she's in the position to take the roles she wants instead of having to take everything is beautiful. Love that for her.
CAA is her management and her relationship with them is fairly new, within the last 3-4 years? Management is just one facet. There are other aspects of an entertainers career other than management you know? Like having a PR team?
But like I said, for other aspects of her career....I mean Vaughn is her publicist. She should be working with a publicist that can broaden her reach.
And how is it fake concern if were voicing our discontent with it not being her passion, when it's what she's KNOWN for and it's what she keeps bread-crumbing us with? If it's not her passion anymore, well...what is the point? No shade, but I don't think many of us stan Brandy for her acting over her music.
Quote from: Young on May 26, 2023, 11:49:03 AMQuote from: rosone1 on May 24, 2023, 05:37:43 PMNow I do agree about her touring more.She hasn't even done spot date in a while.
I've yet to see her love and I don't LIKE that
I was suppose to be at that DC show too ..
i was there ackkk
Quote from: NEW MOON on May 26, 2023, 05:56:02 PMQuote from: Summertime on May 26, 2023, 11:37:22 AMQuote from: NEW MOON on May 23, 2023, 06:51:21 PMQuote from: yearofbrandy on May 23, 2023, 06:47:14 PMBrandy can make a comeback to music but with the right sound. She just need the right song and producer.
She definitely has the potential
But I don't think it will happen unless an act of Divine intervention.
I've realized Brandy's problem isn't just music politics
Vaughn as her publicist for the last decade stunned me. Along with the her team pretty much being paid interns.
Along with the refusal to sing live, the resistance to put out music. Not wanting to let go of Frank Gatson.
Her contract with Chameleon was settled in 2017. Why couldn't we get two EP's in 2018/2019? And then the album release in 2020? Anyway...
Brandy is repped by CAA. No entertainer deciding to be repped by them has hired paid interns. It's the top agency in the biz. If she was into having paid interns she would be like some entertainers who choose not to have an agent.
Her cousin is no slouch either. He's been managing Metro Boomin for a few years who just headlined at Coachella, has multiple #1s, who just did the soundtrack for the upcoming Spiderman movie & has numerous brand deals. He also manages Vory who is one of the most popular artists in the industry.
Her team is clearly good bc every time ppl think her career is over they keep landing major opportunities.
No entertainer just lands a partnership w Disney somebody on her team bagged her that. She went from only acting every 3 years to now landing roles every year since 2021 has to do w the clout she has in hollywood & her agent. Can't wait to see what else they've been working on bc clearly a lot is in the pipeline for her. No one on here thought they were lining her up to do more endorsements.
Also, many of you have to get over the fake concern for music. It's simply not her passion. It's really okay that she's not in love with it. She started in 93'. Many singers/actors would love the opportunity to have the choice not to do something. That's a privilege that she has. Even w acting the fact that she's in the position to take the roles she wants instead of having to take everything is beautiful. Love that for her.
CAA is her management and her relationship with them is fairly new, within the last 3-4 years? Management is just one facet. There are other aspects of an entertainers career other than management you know? Like having a PR team?
But like I said, for other aspects of her career....I mean Vaughn is her publicist. She should be working with a publicist that can broaden her reach.
And how is it fake concern if were voicing our discontent with it not being her passion, when it's what she's KNOWN for and it's what she keeps bread-crumbing us with? If it's not her passion anymore, well...what is the point? No shade, but I don't think many of us stan Brandy for her acting over her music.
CAA is not management. It is a talent agency. They have been listed on her press statements for at least 10 years. Her manager is her cousin. Agent, manager & lawyer are the most important roles on an entertainer's team.
It doesn't matter why most claim to stan her on here. Her career has never been solely music based so why be shocked that she doesn't live & breathe music? She didn't even start off as a professional singer.
I would like to add that CAA does have paid interns though. A big agent can only do so much in a day and they usually only focus on their top talent, they have lower-level agents aka interns to take care of the rest of their roster.
Agree on Brandy being in a sweet spot.
All in all... Brandy is content where she is. And therein lies the "problem". I wish she'd do more features with other artists tho. Love again was successful in its lane. Somebody's son is certified in a few countries. Girl is mine and I could be wrong are dance hits overseas. She has options but it's clear music is not a priority for her Anymore. I don't think the Stans are ready to swallow that pill
Quote from: Summertime on May 26, 2023, 06:44:54 PMQuote from: NEW MOON on May 26, 2023, 05:56:02 PMQuote from: Summertime on May 26, 2023, 11:37:22 AMQuote from: NEW MOON on May 23, 2023, 06:51:21 PMQuote from: yearofbrandy on May 23, 2023, 06:47:14 PMBrandy can make a comeback to music but with the right sound. She just need the right song and producer.
She definitely has the potential
But I don't think it will happen unless an act of Divine intervention.
I've realized Brandy's problem isn't just music politics
Vaughn as her publicist for the last decade stunned me. Along with the her team pretty much being paid interns.
Along with the refusal to sing live, the resistance to put out music. Not wanting to let go of Frank Gatson.
Her contract with Chameleon was settled in 2017. Why couldn't we get two EP's in 2018/2019? And then the album release in 2020? Anyway...
Brandy is repped by CAA. No entertainer deciding to be repped by them has hired paid interns. It's the top agency in the biz. If she was into having paid interns she would be like some entertainers who choose not to have an agent.
Her cousin is no slouch either. He's been managing Metro Boomin for a few years who just headlined at Coachella, has multiple #1s, who just did the soundtrack for the upcoming Spiderman movie & has numerous brand deals. He also manages Vory who is one of the most popular artists in the industry.
Her team is clearly good bc every time ppl think her career is over they keep landing major opportunities.
No entertainer just lands a partnership w Disney somebody on her team bagged her that. She went from only acting every 3 years to now landing roles every year since 2021 has to do w the clout she has in hollywood & her agent. Can't wait to see what else they've been working on bc clearly a lot is in the pipeline for her. No one on here thought they were lining her up to do more endorsements.
Also, many of you have to get over the fake concern for music. It's simply not her passion. It's really okay that she's not in love with it. She started in 93'. Many singers/actors would love the opportunity to have the choice not to do something. That's a privilege that she has. Even w acting the fact that she's in the position to take the roles she wants instead of having to take everything is beautiful. Love that for her.
CAA is her management and her relationship with them is fairly new, within the last 3-4 years? Management is just one facet. There are other aspects of an entertainers career other than management you know? Like having a PR team?
But like I said, for other aspects of her career....I mean Vaughn is her publicist. She should be working with a publicist that can broaden her reach.
And how is it fake concern if were voicing our discontent with it not being her passion, when it's what she's KNOWN for and it's what she keeps bread-crumbing us with? If it's not her passion anymore, well...what is the point? No shade, but I don't think many of us stan Brandy for her acting over her music.
CAA is not management. It is a talent agency. They have been listed on her press statements for at least 10 years. Her manager is her cousin. Agent, manager & lawyer are the most important roles on an entertainer's team.
It doesn't matter why most claim to stan her on here. Her career has never been solely music based so why be shocked that she doesn't live & breathe music? She didn't even start off as a professional singer.
Talent agencies manage their talent, hun.
And I must be thinking of the new company her cousin inked her a deal with. The same one as Doja Cat.
She doesn't seem to care about her musical legacy imo. Like how does she have soooo many songs in her catalogue she hasn't performed? Even when she discusses her music you can tell she STANS for her vocal arrangements and harmonies but never quoting specific lyrics. She's never expressed wishing to get back in with Kenisha Pratt (RIP) or Candice Nelson. Mind you we're not talking about writers who gave her their best demos, these are original songs written specifically for her expressing her thoughts from conversations. "Should I Go?" anyone. Nooo other artist would have such a deeply personal song in their catalogue and never perform it.
I came to the realization that she doesn't seem to be connected to her music once she revealed not having a copy nor remembering the lyrics to Black Pepper. You're gearing up to release another project and "comeback" after giving birth; you're practicing choreography for the music video, but you could care less about it now? It was allegedly first single material, but didn't make the album? Not even a bonus track. That's a problem sis. Says a lot. We had no mentions about fighting with the label.
Clearly, you weren't passionate about it, so much so that Kanye was able to come in last minute and sway you to change direction with Talk About Our Love, and yet now you don't even care to perform that song. :kii:
I think things would be drastically different if she shifted into becoming the Neo Soul artist / rapper and recorded the music that she clearly wanted to evidenced by unreleased music post the Atlantic Release and Mike City cuts. R&B pop diva Brandy was a manufactured product she's been trying to run away from. She wants her name to be mentioned in the conversations with India.Arie, Goapele, Sade, but she never committed enough to re-Establishing herself.
Sis loves her hippie fashions and wants so desperately for the music to match.
Quote from: Murrah on May 27, 2023, 03:15:51 AMShe doesn't seem to care about her musical legacy imo. Like how does she have soooo many songs in her catalogue she hasn't performed? Even when she discusses her music you can tell she STANS for her vocal arrangements and harmonies but never quoting specific lyrics. She's never expressed wishing to get back in with Kenisha Pratt (RIP) or Candice Nelson. Mind you we're not talking about writers who gave her their best demos, these are original songs written specifically for her expressing her thoughts from conversations. "Should I Go?" anyone. Nooo other artist would have such a deeply personal song in their catalogue and never perform it.
I came to the realization that she doesn't seem to be connected to her music once she revealed not having a copy nor remembering the lyrics to Black Pepper. You're gearing up to release another project and "comeback" after giving birth; you're practicing choreography for the music video, but you could care less about it now? It was allegedly first single material, but didn't make the album? Not even a bonus track. That's a problem sis. Says a lot. We had no mentions about fighting with the label.
Clearly, you weren't passionate about it, so much so that Kanye was able to come in last minute and sway you to change direction with Talk About Our Love, and yet now you don't even care to perform that song. :kii:
I think things would be drastically different if she shifted into becoming the Neo Soul artist / rapper and recorded the music that she clearly wanted to evidenced by unreleased music post the Atlantic Release and Mike City cuts. R&B pop diva Brandy was a manufactured product she's been trying to run away from. She wants her name to be mentioned in the conversations with India.Arie, Goapele, Sade, but she never committed enough to re-Establishing herself.
Sis loves her hippie fashions and wants so desperately for the music to match.
I think Atlantic stopped prioritizing Brandy as an artist when she pulled the plug on Full Moon. Everyone says she couldn't promote because she was pregnant, but she was promoting the album all the way until her daughters birth.
After a 12 week maternity leave, she could have fought to rebrand the album with a fourth single, after He Is flopped.
All that to say by the time Black Pepper came around, Atlantic didn't believe in Brandy's vision because she didn't push Full Moon more. So they scrapped Black Pepper and thought Kanye would give her a good come back. If Brandy didn't stop pushing Full Moon, I really believe Black Pepper would have been the album title and lead single.
No matter how we slice it, she's a legend has made her mark. I'll take the music and movies when we get em LOL
Yeah, Brandy could have benefited from continuing her campaign later that fall. Re-releasing a special edition of the album with some 3 new songs and some remixes. I think Janet and Mary did the same thing around that time.
Anyways, I am eagerly looking forward to her next movie role. Barry Jenkins give her a call please.
And WTH y'all doing way back in 2002. :plzstop: :plzstop:
Quote from: rosone1 on May 27, 2023, 01:25:18 PMAnd WTH y'all doing way back in 2002. :plzstop: :plzstop:
That's where it all started tbh...
Quote from: Murrah on May 27, 2023, 03:15:51 AMShe doesn't seem to care about her musical legacy imo. Like how does she have soooo many songs in her catalogue she hasn't performed? Even when she discusses her music you can tell she STANS for her vocal arrangements and harmonies but never quoting specific lyrics. She's never expressed wishing to get back in with Kenisha Pratt (RIP) or Candice Nelson. Mind you we're not talking about writers who gave her their best demos, these are original songs written specifically for her expressing her thoughts from conversations. "Should I Go?" anyone. Nooo other artist would have such a deeply personal song in their catalogue and never perform it.
SHITTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
every time she popped out it was
"why dont you re- "BAM!!" my calls?!!"
I think another part of it is that Brandy is PAID.
:dead:
Sis does not have to perform or release music for a living anymore.
She doesn't necessarily have to do shows to earn money.
I think people miss out on this factor.
I mean - she has songwriting and producing credit on her biggest hit.
Quote from: Rxxf on May 27, 2023, 10:46:37 PMI think another part of it is that Brandy is PAID.
:dead:
Sis does not have to perform or release music for a living anymore.
Not only that but there isn't much money in simply releasing music and she doesn't like to tour a lot so there's that.
Quote from: Big Barbie on May 27, 2023, 10:48:57 PMQuote from: Rxxf on May 27, 2023, 10:46:37 PMI think another part of it is that Brandy is PAID.
:dead:
Sis does not have to perform or release music for a living anymore.
Not only that but there isn't much money in simply releasing music and she doesn't like to tour a lot so there's that.
And Brandy isn't known for performing.
Like a Beyonce - who will forever perform.
I do think performing more often can help her long term (music wise) - staying connected.
However, Brandy's acting career is what is going to sustain her in her older years.
She is an entertainer and can do it all.
I think it'd make more sense to release music (since its her passion...?) regardless if it sells or not.
You dont have to make it some big roll out with CDs being pumped everywhere. Get some physicals out and make those like collectors and put everything else on Streaming.
Touring is where the actual money is. So pumping her catalogs with more new music that she can perform and enjoy doing would be better than her acting gigs.
Brandy should be touring, she could have a world tour.....her catalog is strong enough to sell out shows everywhere, I don't get her attitude against touring, as a musician, you owe it to your fans to tour....is she lazy or what
Yeah she should be doing more shows
Quote from: Aamerica Has A Problem on May 27, 2023, 02:30:05 PMevery time she popped out it was
"why dont you re- "BAM!!" my calls?!!"
Hgfggfghhhhhfhh
"Why yew trip bout where I be?!"DURNT!
Quote from: BAPHOMET. on May 28, 2023, 12:20:04 AMI think it'd make more sense to release music (since its her passion...?) regardless if it sells or not.
You dont have to make it some big roll out with CDs being pumped everywhere. Get some physicals out and make those like collectors and put everything else on Streaming.
Touring is where the actual money is. So pumping her catalogs with more new music that she can perform and enjoy doing would be better than her acting gigs.
Quote from: Kalifornia. on May 28, 2023, 02:20:02 PMQuote from: Aamerica Has A Problem on May 27, 2023, 02:30:05 PMevery time she popped out it was
"why dont you re- "BAM!!" my calls?!!"
Hgfggfghhhhhfhh
"Why yew trip bout where I be?!"
DURNT!
oh my GODDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD :kii: :kii: :kii:
Quote from: Aamerica Has A Problem on May 28, 2023, 02:32:13 PMQuote from: Kalifornia. on May 28, 2023, 02:20:02 PMQuote from: Aamerica Has A Problem on May 27, 2023, 02:30:05 PMevery time she popped out it was
"why dont you re- "BAM!!" my calls?!!"
Hgfggfghhhhhfhh
"Why yew trip bout where I be?!"
DURNT!
oh my GODDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD :kii: :kii: :kii:
the hilarious thing is Frank had Kelly doing the exact same opening with her song Ice
:omf:
Quote from: Kalifornia. on May 28, 2023, 02:20:02 PMQuote from: Aamerica Has A Problem on May 27, 2023, 02:30:05 PMevery time she popped out it was
"why dont you re- "BAM!!" my calls?!!"
Hgfggfghhhhhfhh
"Why yew trip bout where I be?!"
DURNT!
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My favorite "Thought that you'd be Aaaalllll" :plzstop:
Then the way she FLINGS her stiff arm around into place