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Quote from: zanny on October 26, 2021, 11:37:38 AMhttps://ratedrnb.com/2019/03/monica-says-new-album-chapter-38-is-coming-soon/damn this was 2 and a half years ago.
Quote from: zanny on October 26, 2021, 11:41:17 AMconfirmed release date november 2020https://thatgrapejuice.net/2020/10/monica-confirms-november-release-date-for-new-album-trenches/
Quote from: zanny on October 26, 2021, 11:43:58 AMHowever, a recent interview with Yahoo suggests Trenches may actually arrive in early 2021.
Quote from: NEW MOON on October 09, 2023, 07:38:51 PMQuote from: ivorian oph on October 09, 2023, 06:23:12 PMQuote from: NEW MOON on October 09, 2023, 06:11:24 PMQuote from: ivorian oph on October 09, 2023, 06:05:12 PMQuote from: NEW MOON on October 09, 2023, 05:49:58 PMQuote from: ivorian oph on October 09, 2023, 05:45:48 PMQuote from: NEW MOON on October 09, 2023, 05:35:52 PMQuote from: ivorian oph on October 09, 2023, 12:29:43 PMQuote from: NEW MOON on October 09, 2023, 08:13:29 AMQuote from: ivorian oph on October 09, 2023, 08:08:03 AMQuote from: NEW MOON on October 08, 2023, 10:31:35 PMQuote from: ivorian oph on October 08, 2023, 09:30:54 PMQuote from: NEW MOON on October 08, 2023, 09:23:57 PMQuote from: ivorian oph on October 08, 2023, 08:55:28 PMQuote from: NEW MOON on October 08, 2023, 06:48:21 PMQuote from: ivorian oph on October 08, 2023, 04:58:41 PMQuote from: Nine on October 08, 2023, 04:54:22 PMhttps://twitter.com/Fedupmomz/status/1711049447877017661that wasn't even a readliving in ya mama mess is not the same as buying a home with your HUSBAND Ashley didn't buy a home with her husband. She's living in a home her husband owns. She's financially dependent on a man. i don't know enough about their agreement to go toe to toe on the details, but the fact remains the 2 situations are not the same. for that reason, it just wasn't a read.The fact that their situations aren't the same is why it's a read huh. candice while point was trynna call ashley a hypocrite. which doesnt work if the situations aren't even the sameIt's hypocritical because the circumstances are different but the principal isn't. While Ashley was shaming Candiace for her mother having the means to afford Candiace a home...Ashley had to practically bargain with husband just to have a roof over her head Ashley's point is contradicting. She's saying Candiace is an adult and should be able to have a home in her own name but Ashley couldn't even get that house without Michaels money. a) i recall ashley being able to buy a home on her own but being able to buy a BETTER one with his help. but even if she did bargainb) making that deal with the man you have a child with is nowhere near the same as relying on ya mamaso there is no opportunity for hypocrisy when the situations are nothing alikeBoth women could buy basic homes if they wanted too. Making a deal with a man who can cut you off at any moment and simply just pay child support is not the same as having unconditional support from your parent and having an inheritance. Ashley couldn't even get alimony. Ashley is hypocritical to be telling someone how they should handle their finances as an adult when she's living in a home she can't even afford. Candiace and Chris actually pay their mortgage on their own. If I recall correctly Mama Dot only put down a percentage. Ashley can't afford her 13k a month mortgage. She's relying on Michael for that. The man she's "divorcing". why would michael jeopardize the well-being of his child by cutting ashley off? additionally, candice's mother could easily cut her off at any time, she's under absolutely no obligation. and if anything michael cutting ashley off would be more publicly consequential Which is exactly why Ashley shouldn't be talking about anyone else's finances lol publicly consequential as in the backlash he would receive. nothing to do with the point your trying to make babe cvccccccHe can cut Ashley off and still pay his child support dues. Ashley couldn't get spousal support. Candiace isn't in a position to need it to begin with. Ashley is so concerned about Candiace being a reponsible adult when Ashley's own mother had Michael paying her rent while she had a free loader boyfriend staying with her. Talking about "don't ruin your mamas table". Ashley's mother couldn't even afford one. Ashley being a hypocrite still stands. again, two situations that aren't comparable. there's no comparing a divorced woman's spousal support to a married woman still getting parental support bvvvvvvvvand again, ashley being "so concerned" is a false narrative when she really just threw that fact out there in response to candice trying to kick her out. it was literally just in the moment shade that happened to be a fact.vvvcccc i know y'all wanna see ashley lashed, but this just wasn't it. It's not about it Being comparable it's about the principle of Ashley speaking on someone being a financially responsible adult when she nor her mother are barely that themselves. it is about it being comparable when the crux of her "read" was hypocrisy. and as far as i can recall, ashley wasnt forced to go to michael for financial help, she (stupidly) CHOSE to in order to get a bigger mess. so the financially irresponsible part don't even really stick Her making a stupid choice is a lack of responsibility lol. So it is hypocritical that she didn't take her own advice.
Quote from: ivorian oph on October 09, 2023, 06:23:12 PMQuote from: NEW MOON on October 09, 2023, 06:11:24 PMQuote from: ivorian oph on October 09, 2023, 06:05:12 PMQuote from: NEW MOON on October 09, 2023, 05:49:58 PMQuote from: ivorian oph on October 09, 2023, 05:45:48 PMQuote from: NEW MOON on October 09, 2023, 05:35:52 PMQuote from: ivorian oph on October 09, 2023, 12:29:43 PMQuote from: NEW MOON on October 09, 2023, 08:13:29 AMQuote from: ivorian oph on October 09, 2023, 08:08:03 AMQuote from: NEW MOON on October 08, 2023, 10:31:35 PMQuote from: ivorian oph on October 08, 2023, 09:30:54 PMQuote from: NEW MOON on October 08, 2023, 09:23:57 PMQuote from: ivorian oph on October 08, 2023, 08:55:28 PMQuote from: NEW MOON on October 08, 2023, 06:48:21 PMQuote from: ivorian oph on October 08, 2023, 04:58:41 PMQuote from: Nine on October 08, 2023, 04:54:22 PMhttps://twitter.com/Fedupmomz/status/1711049447877017661that wasn't even a readliving in ya mama mess is not the same as buying a home with your HUSBAND Ashley didn't buy a home with her husband. She's living in a home her husband owns. She's financially dependent on a man. i don't know enough about their agreement to go toe to toe on the details, but the fact remains the 2 situations are not the same. for that reason, it just wasn't a read.The fact that their situations aren't the same is why it's a read huh. candice while point was trynna call ashley a hypocrite. which doesnt work if the situations aren't even the sameIt's hypocritical because the circumstances are different but the principal isn't. While Ashley was shaming Candiace for her mother having the means to afford Candiace a home...Ashley had to practically bargain with husband just to have a roof over her head Ashley's point is contradicting. She's saying Candiace is an adult and should be able to have a home in her own name but Ashley couldn't even get that house without Michaels money. a) i recall ashley being able to buy a home on her own but being able to buy a BETTER one with his help. but even if she did bargainb) making that deal with the man you have a child with is nowhere near the same as relying on ya mamaso there is no opportunity for hypocrisy when the situations are nothing alikeBoth women could buy basic homes if they wanted too. Making a deal with a man who can cut you off at any moment and simply just pay child support is not the same as having unconditional support from your parent and having an inheritance. Ashley couldn't even get alimony. Ashley is hypocritical to be telling someone how they should handle their finances as an adult when she's living in a home she can't even afford. Candiace and Chris actually pay their mortgage on their own. If I recall correctly Mama Dot only put down a percentage. Ashley can't afford her 13k a month mortgage. She's relying on Michael for that. The man she's "divorcing". why would michael jeopardize the well-being of his child by cutting ashley off? additionally, candice's mother could easily cut her off at any time, she's under absolutely no obligation. and if anything michael cutting ashley off would be more publicly consequential Which is exactly why Ashley shouldn't be talking about anyone else's finances lol publicly consequential as in the backlash he would receive. nothing to do with the point your trying to make babe cvccccccHe can cut Ashley off and still pay his child support dues. Ashley couldn't get spousal support. Candiace isn't in a position to need it to begin with. Ashley is so concerned about Candiace being a reponsible adult when Ashley's own mother had Michael paying her rent while she had a free loader boyfriend staying with her. Talking about "don't ruin your mamas table". Ashley's mother couldn't even afford one. Ashley being a hypocrite still stands. again, two situations that aren't comparable. there's no comparing a divorced woman's spousal support to a married woman still getting parental support bvvvvvvvvand again, ashley being "so concerned" is a false narrative when she really just threw that fact out there in response to candice trying to kick her out. it was literally just in the moment shade that happened to be a fact.vvvcccc i know y'all wanna see ashley lashed, but this just wasn't it. It's not about it Being comparable it's about the principle of Ashley speaking on someone being a financially responsible adult when she nor her mother are barely that themselves. it is about it being comparable when the crux of her "read" was hypocrisy. and as far as i can recall, ashley wasnt forced to go to michael for financial help, she (stupidly) CHOSE to in order to get a bigger mess. so the financially irresponsible part don't even really stick
Quote from: NEW MOON on October 09, 2023, 06:11:24 PMQuote from: ivorian oph on October 09, 2023, 06:05:12 PMQuote from: NEW MOON on October 09, 2023, 05:49:58 PMQuote from: ivorian oph on October 09, 2023, 05:45:48 PMQuote from: NEW MOON on October 09, 2023, 05:35:52 PMQuote from: ivorian oph on October 09, 2023, 12:29:43 PMQuote from: NEW MOON on October 09, 2023, 08:13:29 AMQuote from: ivorian oph on October 09, 2023, 08:08:03 AMQuote from: NEW MOON on October 08, 2023, 10:31:35 PMQuote from: ivorian oph on October 08, 2023, 09:30:54 PMQuote from: NEW MOON on October 08, 2023, 09:23:57 PMQuote from: ivorian oph on October 08, 2023, 08:55:28 PMQuote from: NEW MOON on October 08, 2023, 06:48:21 PMQuote from: ivorian oph on October 08, 2023, 04:58:41 PMQuote from: Nine on October 08, 2023, 04:54:22 PMhttps://twitter.com/Fedupmomz/status/1711049447877017661that wasn't even a readliving in ya mama mess is not the same as buying a home with your HUSBAND Ashley didn't buy a home with her husband. She's living in a home her husband owns. She's financially dependent on a man. i don't know enough about their agreement to go toe to toe on the details, but the fact remains the 2 situations are not the same. for that reason, it just wasn't a read.The fact that their situations aren't the same is why it's a read huh. candice while point was trynna call ashley a hypocrite. which doesnt work if the situations aren't even the sameIt's hypocritical because the circumstances are different but the principal isn't. While Ashley was shaming Candiace for her mother having the means to afford Candiace a home...Ashley had to practically bargain with husband just to have a roof over her head Ashley's point is contradicting. She's saying Candiace is an adult and should be able to have a home in her own name but Ashley couldn't even get that house without Michaels money. a) i recall ashley being able to buy a home on her own but being able to buy a BETTER one with his help. but even if she did bargainb) making that deal with the man you have a child with is nowhere near the same as relying on ya mamaso there is no opportunity for hypocrisy when the situations are nothing alikeBoth women could buy basic homes if they wanted too. Making a deal with a man who can cut you off at any moment and simply just pay child support is not the same as having unconditional support from your parent and having an inheritance. Ashley couldn't even get alimony. Ashley is hypocritical to be telling someone how they should handle their finances as an adult when she's living in a home she can't even afford. Candiace and Chris actually pay their mortgage on their own. If I recall correctly Mama Dot only put down a percentage. Ashley can't afford her 13k a month mortgage. She's relying on Michael for that. The man she's "divorcing". why would michael jeopardize the well-being of his child by cutting ashley off? additionally, candice's mother could easily cut her off at any time, she's under absolutely no obligation. and if anything michael cutting ashley off would be more publicly consequential Which is exactly why Ashley shouldn't be talking about anyone else's finances lol publicly consequential as in the backlash he would receive. nothing to do with the point your trying to make babe cvccccccHe can cut Ashley off and still pay his child support dues. Ashley couldn't get spousal support. Candiace isn't in a position to need it to begin with. Ashley is so concerned about Candiace being a reponsible adult when Ashley's own mother had Michael paying her rent while she had a free loader boyfriend staying with her. Talking about "don't ruin your mamas table". Ashley's mother couldn't even afford one. Ashley being a hypocrite still stands. again, two situations that aren't comparable. there's no comparing a divorced woman's spousal support to a married woman still getting parental support bvvvvvvvvand again, ashley being "so concerned" is a false narrative when she really just threw that fact out there in response to candice trying to kick her out. it was literally just in the moment shade that happened to be a fact.vvvcccc i know y'all wanna see ashley lashed, but this just wasn't it. It's not about it Being comparable it's about the principle of Ashley speaking on someone being a financially responsible adult when she nor her mother are barely that themselves.
Quote from: ivorian oph on October 09, 2023, 06:05:12 PMQuote from: NEW MOON on October 09, 2023, 05:49:58 PMQuote from: ivorian oph on October 09, 2023, 05:45:48 PMQuote from: NEW MOON on October 09, 2023, 05:35:52 PMQuote from: ivorian oph on October 09, 2023, 12:29:43 PMQuote from: NEW MOON on October 09, 2023, 08:13:29 AMQuote from: ivorian oph on October 09, 2023, 08:08:03 AMQuote from: NEW MOON on October 08, 2023, 10:31:35 PMQuote from: ivorian oph on October 08, 2023, 09:30:54 PMQuote from: NEW MOON on October 08, 2023, 09:23:57 PMQuote from: ivorian oph on October 08, 2023, 08:55:28 PMQuote from: NEW MOON on October 08, 2023, 06:48:21 PMQuote from: ivorian oph on October 08, 2023, 04:58:41 PMQuote from: Nine on October 08, 2023, 04:54:22 PMhttps://twitter.com/Fedupmomz/status/1711049447877017661that wasn't even a readliving in ya mama mess is not the same as buying a home with your HUSBAND Ashley didn't buy a home with her husband. She's living in a home her husband owns. She's financially dependent on a man. i don't know enough about their agreement to go toe to toe on the details, but the fact remains the 2 situations are not the same. for that reason, it just wasn't a read.The fact that their situations aren't the same is why it's a read huh. candice while point was trynna call ashley a hypocrite. which doesnt work if the situations aren't even the sameIt's hypocritical because the circumstances are different but the principal isn't. While Ashley was shaming Candiace for her mother having the means to afford Candiace a home...Ashley had to practically bargain with husband just to have a roof over her head Ashley's point is contradicting. She's saying Candiace is an adult and should be able to have a home in her own name but Ashley couldn't even get that house without Michaels money. a) i recall ashley being able to buy a home on her own but being able to buy a BETTER one with his help. but even if she did bargainb) making that deal with the man you have a child with is nowhere near the same as relying on ya mamaso there is no opportunity for hypocrisy when the situations are nothing alikeBoth women could buy basic homes if they wanted too. Making a deal with a man who can cut you off at any moment and simply just pay child support is not the same as having unconditional support from your parent and having an inheritance. Ashley couldn't even get alimony. Ashley is hypocritical to be telling someone how they should handle their finances as an adult when she's living in a home she can't even afford. Candiace and Chris actually pay their mortgage on their own. If I recall correctly Mama Dot only put down a percentage. Ashley can't afford her 13k a month mortgage. She's relying on Michael for that. The man she's "divorcing". why would michael jeopardize the well-being of his child by cutting ashley off? additionally, candice's mother could easily cut her off at any time, she's under absolutely no obligation. and if anything michael cutting ashley off would be more publicly consequential Which is exactly why Ashley shouldn't be talking about anyone else's finances lol publicly consequential as in the backlash he would receive. nothing to do with the point your trying to make babe cvccccccHe can cut Ashley off and still pay his child support dues. Ashley couldn't get spousal support. Candiace isn't in a position to need it to begin with. Ashley is so concerned about Candiace being a reponsible adult when Ashley's own mother had Michael paying her rent while she had a free loader boyfriend staying with her. Talking about "don't ruin your mamas table". Ashley's mother couldn't even afford one. Ashley being a hypocrite still stands. again, two situations that aren't comparable. there's no comparing a divorced woman's spousal support to a married woman still getting parental support bvvvvvvvvand again, ashley being "so concerned" is a false narrative when she really just threw that fact out there in response to candice trying to kick her out. it was literally just in the moment shade that happened to be a fact.vvvcccc i know y'all wanna see ashley lashed, but this just wasn't it.
Quote from: NEW MOON on October 09, 2023, 05:49:58 PMQuote from: ivorian oph on October 09, 2023, 05:45:48 PMQuote from: NEW MOON on October 09, 2023, 05:35:52 PMQuote from: ivorian oph on October 09, 2023, 12:29:43 PMQuote from: NEW MOON on October 09, 2023, 08:13:29 AMQuote from: ivorian oph on October 09, 2023, 08:08:03 AMQuote from: NEW MOON on October 08, 2023, 10:31:35 PMQuote from: ivorian oph on October 08, 2023, 09:30:54 PMQuote from: NEW MOON on October 08, 2023, 09:23:57 PMQuote from: ivorian oph on October 08, 2023, 08:55:28 PMQuote from: NEW MOON on October 08, 2023, 06:48:21 PMQuote from: ivorian oph on October 08, 2023, 04:58:41 PMQuote from: Nine on October 08, 2023, 04:54:22 PMhttps://twitter.com/Fedupmomz/status/1711049447877017661that wasn't even a readliving in ya mama mess is not the same as buying a home with your HUSBAND Ashley didn't buy a home with her husband. She's living in a home her husband owns. She's financially dependent on a man. i don't know enough about their agreement to go toe to toe on the details, but the fact remains the 2 situations are not the same. for that reason, it just wasn't a read.The fact that their situations aren't the same is why it's a read huh. candice while point was trynna call ashley a hypocrite. which doesnt work if the situations aren't even the sameIt's hypocritical because the circumstances are different but the principal isn't. While Ashley was shaming Candiace for her mother having the means to afford Candiace a home...Ashley had to practically bargain with husband just to have a roof over her head Ashley's point is contradicting. She's saying Candiace is an adult and should be able to have a home in her own name but Ashley couldn't even get that house without Michaels money. a) i recall ashley being able to buy a home on her own but being able to buy a BETTER one with his help. but even if she did bargainb) making that deal with the man you have a child with is nowhere near the same as relying on ya mamaso there is no opportunity for hypocrisy when the situations are nothing alikeBoth women could buy basic homes if they wanted too. Making a deal with a man who can cut you off at any moment and simply just pay child support is not the same as having unconditional support from your parent and having an inheritance. Ashley couldn't even get alimony. Ashley is hypocritical to be telling someone how they should handle their finances as an adult when she's living in a home she can't even afford. Candiace and Chris actually pay their mortgage on their own. If I recall correctly Mama Dot only put down a percentage. Ashley can't afford her 13k a month mortgage. She's relying on Michael for that. The man she's "divorcing". why would michael jeopardize the well-being of his child by cutting ashley off? additionally, candice's mother could easily cut her off at any time, she's under absolutely no obligation. and if anything michael cutting ashley off would be more publicly consequential Which is exactly why Ashley shouldn't be talking about anyone else's finances lol publicly consequential as in the backlash he would receive. nothing to do with the point your trying to make babe cvccccccHe can cut Ashley off and still pay his child support dues. Ashley couldn't get spousal support. Candiace isn't in a position to need it to begin with. Ashley is so concerned about Candiace being a reponsible adult when Ashley's own mother had Michael paying her rent while she had a free loader boyfriend staying with her. Talking about "don't ruin your mamas table". Ashley's mother couldn't even afford one. Ashley being a hypocrite still stands.
Quote from: ivorian oph on October 09, 2023, 05:45:48 PMQuote from: NEW MOON on October 09, 2023, 05:35:52 PMQuote from: ivorian oph on October 09, 2023, 12:29:43 PMQuote from: NEW MOON on October 09, 2023, 08:13:29 AMQuote from: ivorian oph on October 09, 2023, 08:08:03 AMQuote from: NEW MOON on October 08, 2023, 10:31:35 PMQuote from: ivorian oph on October 08, 2023, 09:30:54 PMQuote from: NEW MOON on October 08, 2023, 09:23:57 PMQuote from: ivorian oph on October 08, 2023, 08:55:28 PMQuote from: NEW MOON on October 08, 2023, 06:48:21 PMQuote from: ivorian oph on October 08, 2023, 04:58:41 PMQuote from: Nine on October 08, 2023, 04:54:22 PMhttps://twitter.com/Fedupmomz/status/1711049447877017661that wasn't even a readliving in ya mama mess is not the same as buying a home with your HUSBAND Ashley didn't buy a home with her husband. She's living in a home her husband owns. She's financially dependent on a man. i don't know enough about their agreement to go toe to toe on the details, but the fact remains the 2 situations are not the same. for that reason, it just wasn't a read.The fact that their situations aren't the same is why it's a read huh. candice while point was trynna call ashley a hypocrite. which doesnt work if the situations aren't even the sameIt's hypocritical because the circumstances are different but the principal isn't. While Ashley was shaming Candiace for her mother having the means to afford Candiace a home...Ashley had to practically bargain with husband just to have a roof over her head Ashley's point is contradicting. She's saying Candiace is an adult and should be able to have a home in her own name but Ashley couldn't even get that house without Michaels money. a) i recall ashley being able to buy a home on her own but being able to buy a BETTER one with his help. but even if she did bargainb) making that deal with the man you have a child with is nowhere near the same as relying on ya mamaso there is no opportunity for hypocrisy when the situations are nothing alikeBoth women could buy basic homes if they wanted too. Making a deal with a man who can cut you off at any moment and simply just pay child support is not the same as having unconditional support from your parent and having an inheritance. Ashley couldn't even get alimony. Ashley is hypocritical to be telling someone how they should handle their finances as an adult when she's living in a home she can't even afford. Candiace and Chris actually pay their mortgage on their own. If I recall correctly Mama Dot only put down a percentage. Ashley can't afford her 13k a month mortgage. She's relying on Michael for that. The man she's "divorcing". why would michael jeopardize the well-being of his child by cutting ashley off? additionally, candice's mother could easily cut her off at any time, she's under absolutely no obligation. and if anything michael cutting ashley off would be more publicly consequential Which is exactly why Ashley shouldn't be talking about anyone else's finances lol publicly consequential as in the backlash he would receive. nothing to do with the point your trying to make babe cvcccccc
Quote from: NEW MOON on October 09, 2023, 05:35:52 PMQuote from: ivorian oph on October 09, 2023, 12:29:43 PMQuote from: NEW MOON on October 09, 2023, 08:13:29 AMQuote from: ivorian oph on October 09, 2023, 08:08:03 AMQuote from: NEW MOON on October 08, 2023, 10:31:35 PMQuote from: ivorian oph on October 08, 2023, 09:30:54 PMQuote from: NEW MOON on October 08, 2023, 09:23:57 PMQuote from: ivorian oph on October 08, 2023, 08:55:28 PMQuote from: NEW MOON on October 08, 2023, 06:48:21 PMQuote from: ivorian oph on October 08, 2023, 04:58:41 PMQuote from: Nine on October 08, 2023, 04:54:22 PMhttps://twitter.com/Fedupmomz/status/1711049447877017661that wasn't even a readliving in ya mama mess is not the same as buying a home with your HUSBAND Ashley didn't buy a home with her husband. She's living in a home her husband owns. She's financially dependent on a man. i don't know enough about their agreement to go toe to toe on the details, but the fact remains the 2 situations are not the same. for that reason, it just wasn't a read.The fact that their situations aren't the same is why it's a read huh. candice while point was trynna call ashley a hypocrite. which doesnt work if the situations aren't even the sameIt's hypocritical because the circumstances are different but the principal isn't. While Ashley was shaming Candiace for her mother having the means to afford Candiace a home...Ashley had to practically bargain with husband just to have a roof over her head Ashley's point is contradicting. She's saying Candiace is an adult and should be able to have a home in her own name but Ashley couldn't even get that house without Michaels money. a) i recall ashley being able to buy a home on her own but being able to buy a BETTER one with his help. but even if she did bargainb) making that deal with the man you have a child with is nowhere near the same as relying on ya mamaso there is no opportunity for hypocrisy when the situations are nothing alikeBoth women could buy basic homes if they wanted too. Making a deal with a man who can cut you off at any moment and simply just pay child support is not the same as having unconditional support from your parent and having an inheritance. Ashley couldn't even get alimony. Ashley is hypocritical to be telling someone how they should handle their finances as an adult when she's living in a home she can't even afford. Candiace and Chris actually pay their mortgage on their own. If I recall correctly Mama Dot only put down a percentage. Ashley can't afford her 13k a month mortgage. She's relying on Michael for that. The man she's "divorcing". why would michael jeopardize the well-being of his child by cutting ashley off? additionally, candice's mother could easily cut her off at any time, she's under absolutely no obligation. and if anything michael cutting ashley off would be more publicly consequential Which is exactly why Ashley shouldn't be talking about anyone else's finances lol
Quote from: ivorian oph on October 09, 2023, 12:29:43 PMQuote from: NEW MOON on October 09, 2023, 08:13:29 AMQuote from: ivorian oph on October 09, 2023, 08:08:03 AMQuote from: NEW MOON on October 08, 2023, 10:31:35 PMQuote from: ivorian oph on October 08, 2023, 09:30:54 PMQuote from: NEW MOON on October 08, 2023, 09:23:57 PMQuote from: ivorian oph on October 08, 2023, 08:55:28 PMQuote from: NEW MOON on October 08, 2023, 06:48:21 PMQuote from: ivorian oph on October 08, 2023, 04:58:41 PMQuote from: Nine on October 08, 2023, 04:54:22 PMhttps://twitter.com/Fedupmomz/status/1711049447877017661that wasn't even a readliving in ya mama mess is not the same as buying a home with your HUSBAND Ashley didn't buy a home with her husband. She's living in a home her husband owns. She's financially dependent on a man. i don't know enough about their agreement to go toe to toe on the details, but the fact remains the 2 situations are not the same. for that reason, it just wasn't a read.The fact that their situations aren't the same is why it's a read huh. candice while point was trynna call ashley a hypocrite. which doesnt work if the situations aren't even the sameIt's hypocritical because the circumstances are different but the principal isn't. While Ashley was shaming Candiace for her mother having the means to afford Candiace a home...Ashley had to practically bargain with husband just to have a roof over her head Ashley's point is contradicting. She's saying Candiace is an adult and should be able to have a home in her own name but Ashley couldn't even get that house without Michaels money. a) i recall ashley being able to buy a home on her own but being able to buy a BETTER one with his help. but even if she did bargainb) making that deal with the man you have a child with is nowhere near the same as relying on ya mamaso there is no opportunity for hypocrisy when the situations are nothing alikeBoth women could buy basic homes if they wanted too. Making a deal with a man who can cut you off at any moment and simply just pay child support is not the same as having unconditional support from your parent and having an inheritance. Ashley couldn't even get alimony. Ashley is hypocritical to be telling someone how they should handle their finances as an adult when she's living in a home she can't even afford. Candiace and Chris actually pay their mortgage on their own. If I recall correctly Mama Dot only put down a percentage. Ashley can't afford her 13k a month mortgage. She's relying on Michael for that. The man she's "divorcing". why would michael jeopardize the well-being of his child by cutting ashley off? additionally, candice's mother could easily cut her off at any time, she's under absolutely no obligation. and if anything michael cutting ashley off would be more publicly consequential
Quote from: NEW MOON on October 09, 2023, 08:13:29 AMQuote from: ivorian oph on October 09, 2023, 08:08:03 AMQuote from: NEW MOON on October 08, 2023, 10:31:35 PMQuote from: ivorian oph on October 08, 2023, 09:30:54 PMQuote from: NEW MOON on October 08, 2023, 09:23:57 PMQuote from: ivorian oph on October 08, 2023, 08:55:28 PMQuote from: NEW MOON on October 08, 2023, 06:48:21 PMQuote from: ivorian oph on October 08, 2023, 04:58:41 PMQuote from: Nine on October 08, 2023, 04:54:22 PMhttps://twitter.com/Fedupmomz/status/1711049447877017661that wasn't even a readliving in ya mama mess is not the same as buying a home with your HUSBAND Ashley didn't buy a home with her husband. She's living in a home her husband owns. She's financially dependent on a man. i don't know enough about their agreement to go toe to toe on the details, but the fact remains the 2 situations are not the same. for that reason, it just wasn't a read.The fact that their situations aren't the same is why it's a read huh. candice while point was trynna call ashley a hypocrite. which doesnt work if the situations aren't even the sameIt's hypocritical because the circumstances are different but the principal isn't. While Ashley was shaming Candiace for her mother having the means to afford Candiace a home...Ashley had to practically bargain with husband just to have a roof over her head Ashley's point is contradicting. She's saying Candiace is an adult and should be able to have a home in her own name but Ashley couldn't even get that house without Michaels money. a) i recall ashley being able to buy a home on her own but being able to buy a BETTER one with his help. but even if she did bargainb) making that deal with the man you have a child with is nowhere near the same as relying on ya mamaso there is no opportunity for hypocrisy when the situations are nothing alikeBoth women could buy basic homes if they wanted too. Making a deal with a man who can cut you off at any moment and simply just pay child support is not the same as having unconditional support from your parent and having an inheritance. Ashley couldn't even get alimony. Ashley is hypocritical to be telling someone how they should handle their finances as an adult when she's living in a home she can't even afford. Candiace and Chris actually pay their mortgage on their own. If I recall correctly Mama Dot only put down a percentage. Ashley can't afford her 13k a month mortgage. She's relying on Michael for that. The man she's "divorcing".
Quote from: ivorian oph on October 09, 2023, 08:08:03 AMQuote from: NEW MOON on October 08, 2023, 10:31:35 PMQuote from: ivorian oph on October 08, 2023, 09:30:54 PMQuote from: NEW MOON on October 08, 2023, 09:23:57 PMQuote from: ivorian oph on October 08, 2023, 08:55:28 PMQuote from: NEW MOON on October 08, 2023, 06:48:21 PMQuote from: ivorian oph on October 08, 2023, 04:58:41 PMQuote from: Nine on October 08, 2023, 04:54:22 PMhttps://twitter.com/Fedupmomz/status/1711049447877017661that wasn't even a readliving in ya mama mess is not the same as buying a home with your HUSBAND Ashley didn't buy a home with her husband. She's living in a home her husband owns. She's financially dependent on a man. i don't know enough about their agreement to go toe to toe on the details, but the fact remains the 2 situations are not the same. for that reason, it just wasn't a read.The fact that their situations aren't the same is why it's a read huh. candice while point was trynna call ashley a hypocrite. which doesnt work if the situations aren't even the sameIt's hypocritical because the circumstances are different but the principal isn't. While Ashley was shaming Candiace for her mother having the means to afford Candiace a home...Ashley had to practically bargain with husband just to have a roof over her head Ashley's point is contradicting. She's saying Candiace is an adult and should be able to have a home in her own name but Ashley couldn't even get that house without Michaels money. a) i recall ashley being able to buy a home on her own but being able to buy a BETTER one with his help. but even if she did bargainb) making that deal with the man you have a child with is nowhere near the same as relying on ya mamaso there is no opportunity for hypocrisy when the situations are nothing alike
Quote from: NEW MOON on October 08, 2023, 10:31:35 PMQuote from: ivorian oph on October 08, 2023, 09:30:54 PMQuote from: NEW MOON on October 08, 2023, 09:23:57 PMQuote from: ivorian oph on October 08, 2023, 08:55:28 PMQuote from: NEW MOON on October 08, 2023, 06:48:21 PMQuote from: ivorian oph on October 08, 2023, 04:58:41 PMQuote from: Nine on October 08, 2023, 04:54:22 PMhttps://twitter.com/Fedupmomz/status/1711049447877017661that wasn't even a readliving in ya mama mess is not the same as buying a home with your HUSBAND Ashley didn't buy a home with her husband. She's living in a home her husband owns. She's financially dependent on a man. i don't know enough about their agreement to go toe to toe on the details, but the fact remains the 2 situations are not the same. for that reason, it just wasn't a read.The fact that their situations aren't the same is why it's a read huh. candice while point was trynna call ashley a hypocrite. which doesnt work if the situations aren't even the sameIt's hypocritical because the circumstances are different but the principal isn't. While Ashley was shaming Candiace for her mother having the means to afford Candiace a home...Ashley had to practically bargain with husband just to have a roof over her head Ashley's point is contradicting. She's saying Candiace is an adult and should be able to have a home in her own name but Ashley couldn't even get that house without Michaels money.
Quote from: ivorian oph on October 08, 2023, 09:30:54 PMQuote from: NEW MOON on October 08, 2023, 09:23:57 PMQuote from: ivorian oph on October 08, 2023, 08:55:28 PMQuote from: NEW MOON on October 08, 2023, 06:48:21 PMQuote from: ivorian oph on October 08, 2023, 04:58:41 PMQuote from: Nine on October 08, 2023, 04:54:22 PMhttps://twitter.com/Fedupmomz/status/1711049447877017661that wasn't even a readliving in ya mama mess is not the same as buying a home with your HUSBAND Ashley didn't buy a home with her husband. She's living in a home her husband owns. She's financially dependent on a man. i don't know enough about their agreement to go toe to toe on the details, but the fact remains the 2 situations are not the same. for that reason, it just wasn't a read.The fact that their situations aren't the same is why it's a read huh. candice while point was trynna call ashley a hypocrite. which doesnt work if the situations aren't even the same
Quote from: NEW MOON on October 08, 2023, 09:23:57 PMQuote from: ivorian oph on October 08, 2023, 08:55:28 PMQuote from: NEW MOON on October 08, 2023, 06:48:21 PMQuote from: ivorian oph on October 08, 2023, 04:58:41 PMQuote from: Nine on October 08, 2023, 04:54:22 PMhttps://twitter.com/Fedupmomz/status/1711049447877017661that wasn't even a readliving in ya mama mess is not the same as buying a home with your HUSBAND Ashley didn't buy a home with her husband. She's living in a home her husband owns. She's financially dependent on a man. i don't know enough about their agreement to go toe to toe on the details, but the fact remains the 2 situations are not the same. for that reason, it just wasn't a read.The fact that their situations aren't the same is why it's a read
Quote from: ivorian oph on October 08, 2023, 08:55:28 PMQuote from: NEW MOON on October 08, 2023, 06:48:21 PMQuote from: ivorian oph on October 08, 2023, 04:58:41 PMQuote from: Nine on October 08, 2023, 04:54:22 PMhttps://twitter.com/Fedupmomz/status/1711049447877017661that wasn't even a readliving in ya mama mess is not the same as buying a home with your HUSBAND Ashley didn't buy a home with her husband. She's living in a home her husband owns. She's financially dependent on a man. i don't know enough about their agreement to go toe to toe on the details, but the fact remains the 2 situations are not the same. for that reason, it just wasn't a read.
Quote from: NEW MOON on October 08, 2023, 06:48:21 PMQuote from: ivorian oph on October 08, 2023, 04:58:41 PMQuote from: Nine on October 08, 2023, 04:54:22 PMhttps://twitter.com/Fedupmomz/status/1711049447877017661that wasn't even a readliving in ya mama mess is not the same as buying a home with your HUSBAND Ashley didn't buy a home with her husband. She's living in a home her husband owns. She's financially dependent on a man.
Quote from: ivorian oph on October 08, 2023, 04:58:41 PMQuote from: Nine on October 08, 2023, 04:54:22 PMhttps://twitter.com/Fedupmomz/status/1711049447877017661that wasn't even a readliving in ya mama mess is not the same as buying a home with your HUSBAND
Quote from: Nine on October 08, 2023, 04:54:22 PMhttps://twitter.com/Fedupmomz/status/1711049447877017661
Quote from: Red Ruby on October 10, 2023, 11:46:37 AMWtf is there to even argue about? I can't even read that mess because there are too many quotes.
Quote from: Red Ruby on October 10, 2023, 11:46:37 AMI can't even read
Quote from: Red Ruby on October 10, 2023, 01:40:03 PMOh I already skip over your me--
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