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Title: Fat Joe steps outta line with Blk women during Ja Rule verzuz
Post by: The Only BLACK Kalmyks on September 15, 2021, 07:27:08 AM
i was hoping joe would go there and TAP Ja's ass real quick (so 50 could laugh at him :woohoo: )

but instead this burrito was in his FEELINGS all night and ended up resorting to calling lil mo and vita "dusty bitches" and saying ja rule found them in a crackhouse. All while they were backstage at the event.

and ended up having to run to twitter with an apology afterwards after the gorls LIT his ass up.

he gonna have to learn that you're chilling at the BBQ, but ur not quite like the others there so u better watch that MOUTH. :shook:

Black men can't even get away with this mess in 2021. You're a whole man. Respect women. Especially Black women.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CT06M3oAQ0P/

https://twitter.com/fatjoe/status/1437989980496961539/

(https://uploadir.com/u/2axrrub7)
Title: Re: Fat Joe steps outta line with Blk women during Ja Rule verzuz
Post by: Barbie Dangerous on September 15, 2021, 07:33:44 AM
cncncnc at the last slide of them storming the stage. Did he lie?
Title: Re: Fat Joe steps outta line with Blk women during Ja Rule verzuz
Post by: Martin Green on September 15, 2021, 07:34:48 AM
Yeah, as black people we definitely need to treat these situations w/ bold indignation. This type of mindset likely comes into play when Joe is hiring for his businesses and in the way he might raise his children. It's misogynoir. But some black people, specifically black men, allow just about anything in rap.
Title: Re: Fat Joe steps outta line with Blk women during Ja Rule verzuz
Post by: CHOKE on September 15, 2021, 07:38:33 AM
But I thought this is what they DO at these shows?
So I want that same energy they used to defend DaBaby

:woohoo:



Title: Re: Fat Joe steps outta line with Blk women during Ja Rule verzuz
Post by: The Only BLACK Kalmyks on September 15, 2021, 07:42:20 AM
i think fat joe was just talking out his ass honestly

dont think it was racially motivated

cuz if vita and lil mo were dusty bitches just cuz they're black women, then his guest who he brought to the stage (Remy Ma) would def be one too.

but still. he needs to watch it. associating black women with crack houses, calling them dusty.

it just aint gon SIT right with people. including me. he deserved the lashing
Title: Re: Fat Joe steps outta line with Blk women during Ja Rule verzuz
Post by: CHOKE on September 15, 2021, 07:50:47 AM
Ion give a fuck bout  your faults or mishappens nigga
We from the Bronx, New York, shit happens

https://youtu.be/ajmI1P3r1w4


:trannyjblige:
Title: Re: Fat Joe steps outta line with Blk women during Ja Rule verzuz
Post by: The Only BLACK Kalmyks on September 15, 2021, 07:52:19 AM
Quote from: YTManzWhore on September 15, 2021, 07:50:47 AM
Ion give a fuck bout  your faults or mishappens nigga
We from the Bronx, New York, shit happens

https://youtu.be/ajmI1P3r1w4


:trannyjblige:
uh HUH!
throw ya hands up in da air
yea khaled i see yew!

:trannyjblige:
Title: Re: Fat Joe steps outta line with Blk women during Ja Rule verzuz
Post by: Freemala Harris on September 15, 2021, 07:52:20 AM
Gross 

Now see

Makes me wanna fast forward this mess just to see all the ladies that showed up
Title: Re: Fat Joe steps outta line with Blk women during Ja Rule verzuz
Post by: Freemala Harris on September 15, 2021, 07:53:13 AM
https://www.instagram.com/p/CT05Bq5j77J/
Title: Re: Fat Joe steps outta line with Blk women during Ja Rule verzuz
Post by: The Only BLACK Kalmyks on September 15, 2021, 07:53:59 AM
Quote from: Freemala Harris on September 15, 2021, 07:53:13 AM
https://www.instagram.com/p/CT05Bq5j77J/
ndnfnfnf

I know remy didn't say shit about this

Male identifying , misogynist self
She was def backstage laughing .
Title: Re: Fat Joe steps outta line with Blk women during Ja Rule verzuz
Post by: CHOKE on September 15, 2021, 07:56:53 AM
Is it a problem if she identifies as a male?

:disgusted:
Title: Re: Fat Joe steps outta line with Blk women during Ja Rule verzuz
Post by: Freemala Harris on September 15, 2021, 07:58:47 AM
Quote from: paper planes on September 15, 2021, 07:53:59 AM
Quote from: Freemala Harris on September 15, 2021, 07:53:13 AM
https://www.instagram.com/p/CT05Bq5j77J/
ndnfnfnf

I know remy didn't say shit about this

Male identifying , misogynist self
She was def backstage laughing .

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Title: Re: Fat Joe steps outta line with Blk women during Ja Rule verzuz
Post by: The Only BLACK Kalmyks on September 15, 2021, 07:59:08 AM
Quote from: YTManzWhore on September 15, 2021, 07:56:53 AM
Is it a problem if she identifies as a male?

:disgusted:
l;],pk[mlojnpih'bgouhvy;

thats not what male identifying means boobah
Title: Re: Fat Joe steps outta line with Blk women during Ja Rule verzuz
Post by: Martin Green on September 15, 2021, 08:01:42 AM
Joe's use of the N-word is also problematic. He is a white Hispanic. His parents are also white Hispanics. Not to mention their cuban descent. I'm going to generalize a bit, but Cubans are largely Republican with often anti-black views, especially those from Florida. Not saying Joe is Republican, but that certain upbringings and ideologies aligned w/ anti-blackness might inform part of his life perspective.
Title: Re: Fat Joe steps outta line with Blk women during Ja Rule verzuz
Post by: The Only BLACK Kalmyks on September 15, 2021, 08:04:40 AM
Quote from: Martin Green on September 15, 2021, 08:01:42 AM
Joe's use of the N-word is also problematic. He is a white Hispanic. His parents are also white Hispanics. Not to mention their cuban descent. I'm going to generalize a bit, but Cubans are largely Republican with often anti-black views, especially those from Florida. Not saying Joe is Republican, but that certain upbringings and ideologies aligned w/ anti-blackness might inform part of his life perspective.
i don't think Joe is White.

he's very light but looks more Indigenous than anything. (Taino) then White and some African.
I know PR people who look like him and have parents that are leaning almost fully Taino.

his features - that nose, his eyes, etc. he's not a Ricky Martin by a long shot.
he's most definitely of color.

i can see ppl having a problem with him saying the "n" word though. he's def not a Black man.

(https://i.scdn.co/image/ab6761610000e5eb0611b0c36216936a143d0e25)
Title: Re: Fat Joe steps outta line with Blk women during Ja Rule verzuz
Post by: The Only BLACK Kalmyks on September 15, 2021, 08:21:27 AM
I'd say jlo is probably predominately white (Spanish)
But I can see Taino in her too

And Ricky Martin is what I'd call a white hispanic

Like I'm sure he may have those "other" roots too but it doesn't register for me . So it's probably super far back
Title: Re: Fat Joe steps outta line with Blk women during Ja Rule verzuz
Post by: Martin Green on September 15, 2021, 08:23:17 AM
Quote from: paper planes on September 15, 2021, 08:04:40 AM
Quote from: Martin Green on September 15, 2021, 08:01:42 AM
Joe's use of the N-word is also problematic. He is a white Hispanic. His parents are also white Hispanics. Not to mention their cuban descent. I'm going to generalize a bit, but Cubans are largely Republican with often anti-black views, especially those from Florida. Not saying Joe is Republican, but that certain upbringings and ideologies aligned w/ anti-blackness might inform part of his life perspective.
i don't think Joe is White.

he's very light but looks more Indigenous than anything. (Taino) then White and some African.
I know PR people who look like him and have parents that are leaning almost fully Taino.

his features - that nose, his eyes, etc. he's not a Ricky Martin by a long shot.
he's most definitely of color.

i can see ppl having a problem with him saying the "n" word though. he's def not a Black man.

(https://i.scdn.co/image/ab6761610000e5eb0611b0c36216936a143d0e25)

That's fair! Joe may be part taino or fully taino. A large number of PR do have taino backgrounds. But agreed, the major point is that he's not a black man. Though, I disagree with the use of the N-word regardless of race. His disrespect of black women is a major sticking point in this case though. We definitely have to demand respect b/c ppl will treat you the way you allow them to. And while Joe surrounds himself with a number of black people, I wonder how pro-black he really is. Not saying he isn't, just curious.
Title: Re: Fat Joe steps outta line with Blk women during Ja Rule verzuz
Post by: CHOKE on September 15, 2021, 08:27:36 AM
(https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/f6c08fbb8430523cba1b6a724dc315e8b87c33d0/0_469_2820_1692/master/2820.jpg?width=1200&height=900&quality=85&auto=format&fit=crop&s=bd801420d02e12e46841c1206a75cfd8)
Title: Re: Fat Joe steps outta line with Blk women during Ja Rule verzuz
Post by: Annie on September 15, 2021, 08:46:36 AM


2:38
I remember how controversial this J lo song was. Ja Rule told her it was ok to just follow Ashanti's demo? 
It's censored in the original vid she got on her channel.
Title: Re: Fat Joe steps outta line with Blk women during Ja Rule verzuz
Post by: Annie on September 15, 2021, 08:48:02 AM
2001:
"For anyone to think or suggest that I'm racist is really absurd and hateful to me," the singer-actress tells The Associated Press. "The use of the word in the song ... it was actually written by Ja Rule [and] it was not meant to be hurtful to anybody," she said during an interview on NBC's Today show this morning.

"I don't want to give it too much energy," Lopez said of the controversy. "I'm here to perform for the fans and that's what I'm going to do."

Ja Rule:  Ja, who penned the cut after being asked to collaborate with J. Lo by Sony Music CEO Tommy Mottola, said he doesn't see why Lopez has received flack for using the "n-word" on the track.

"I think it's silly," Ja said. "I think the whole thing, like everything else, is being blown out of proportion. She's not the first Latino to use that word on a record, and it's never been an issue before. I think it's just that she's a very high-profile star and it's something to let people get a chance to poke at her."
Title: Re: Fat Joe steps outta line with Blk women during Ja Rule verzuz
Post by: Annie on September 15, 2021, 08:48:33 AM
As a Puerto Rican rapper, have you ever been criticized for using the N Word?No absolutely not. Because blacks and Latinos anywhere you go in any hood, any ghetto, we're right beside each other, and with each other all the time especially in New York City. They've been calling me "that nigga" my whole life. I go to Africa, and the Africans say "what's up Fat Joe my nigga-ah?" So they don't have a problem with it. It's a term of endearment.

http://joelapuma.com/?portfolio=interview-fat-joe-talks-retaliation-towards-50-cent-the-n-word-and-new-york-rap (http://joelapuma.com/?portfolio=interview-fat-joe-talks-retaliation-towards-50-cent-the-n-word-and-new-york-rap)
Title: Re: Fat Joe steps outta line with Blk women during Ja Rule verzuz
Post by: Marilyn on September 15, 2021, 08:49:15 AM
His fat ass know he didn't have to call them dusty bitches. I don't think it was anti-black moment though. Just an ignorant QUICK comeback. Remy is as black as they come and that's his A1.
Title: Re: Fat Joe steps outta line with Blk women during Ja Rule verzuz
Post by: CHOKE on September 15, 2021, 08:51:33 AM
Quote from: Annie on September 15, 2021, 08:48:33 AM
As a Puerto Rican rapper, have you ever been criticized for using the N Word?No absolutely not. Because blacks and Latinos anywhere you go in any hood, any ghetto, we're right beside each other, and with each other all the time especially in New York City. They've been calling me "that nigga" my whole life. I go to Africa, and the Africans say "what's up Fat Joe my nigga-ah?" So they don't have a problem with it. It's a term of endearment.

http://joelapuma.com/?portfolio=interview-fat-joe-talks-retaliation-towards-50-cent-the-n-word-and-new-york-rap (http://joelapuma.com/?portfolio=interview-fat-joe-talks-retaliation-towards-50-cent-the-n-word-and-new-york-rap)

Yeah, dis kinda what Fro was sayin a while back
Title: Re: Fat Joe steps outta line with Blk women during Ja Rule verzuz
Post by: L0NZ. on September 15, 2021, 08:53:44 AM
Quote from: Martin Green on September 15, 2021, 07:34:48 AM
Yeah, as black people we definitely need to treat these situations w/ bold indignation. This type of mindset likely comes into play when Joe is hiring for his businesses and in the way he might raise his children. It's misogynoir. But some black people, specifically black men, allow just about anything in rap.

Love your vibe
Title: Re: Fat Joe steps outta line with Blk women during Ja Rule verzuz
Post by: Annie on September 15, 2021, 08:53:44 AM
When Latinx People Use the N-Word

Many of us assume our proximity to black people makes it O.K. for us to say the word. It's not. Oct. 17, 2019

QuoteAnd during a recent appearance (https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=17&v=U0riIBEEW1w) on the New York hip-hop radio station Hot 97, the Puerto Rican and Cuban-American rapper Fat Joe equated Latinx people with African-Americans, adding that they "may even identify themselves with African and black culture more than black people." The comment prompted debate online, in part because his own long history of casual N-word usage fundamentally overlooked how the slur is weaponized against blacks in ways it cannot be against nonblack Latinx people such as himself.


[...]

Perhaps within their inner circles and among their black friends they are able to use the word without consequence — the rapper Ja Rule, Ms. Lopez's featured guest on "I'm Real," defended her (http://www.mtv.com/news/1445967/ja-rule-defends-j-lo-gets-stevie-wonder-seal-of-approval-for-new-cut/). (She also claimed in the midst of protests (https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/lifestyle/2001/07/14/protesters-see-no-affection-in-jlos-use-of-racial-epithet/2b9832d0-6275-4cb6-b1b2-6bb990f2745b/) and opposition from major radio personalities over the single that it was he who wrote the lyric (https://genius.com/a/remembering-jennifer-lopez-s-n-word-controversy-15-years-later) for her.) But as public figures whose language choices affect a greater number of people with different experiences and perspectives, it reflects poorly. And each star failed to understand the gravity of the word and its relationship to black pain, responding in tone-deaf, defensive non-apologies.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/17/opinion/gina-rodriguez-n-word-latinx.html


Title: Re: Fat Joe steps outta line with Blk women during Ja Rule verzuz
Post by: L0NZ. on September 15, 2021, 08:54:25 AM
Quote from: Marilyn on September 15, 2021, 08:49:15 AM
His fat ass know he didn't have to call them dusty bitches. I don't think it was anti-black moment though. Just an ignorant QUICK comeback. Remy is as black as they come and that's his A1.

!!!! He meant dusty as far as status, even tho Rem........

But he holds her in really high regard.
Title: Re: Fat Joe steps outta line with Blk women during Ja Rule verzuz
Post by: The Only BLACK Kalmyks on September 15, 2021, 09:07:07 AM
Quote from: Martin Green on September 15, 2021, 08:23:17 AM
Quote from: paper planes on September 15, 2021, 08:04:40 AM
Quote from: Martin Green on September 15, 2021, 08:01:42 AM
Joe's use of the N-word is also problematic. He is a white Hispanic. His parents are also white Hispanics. Not to mention their cuban descent. I'm going to generalize a bit, but Cubans are largely Republican with often anti-black views, especially those from Florida. Not saying Joe is Republican, but that certain upbringings and ideologies aligned w/ anti-blackness might inform part of his life perspective.
i don't think Joe is White.

he's very light but looks more Indigenous than anything. (Taino) then White and some African.
I know PR people who look like him and have parents that are leaning almost fully Taino.

his features - that nose, his eyes, etc. he's not a Ricky Martin by a long shot.
he's most definitely of color.

i can see ppl having a problem with him saying the "n" word though. he's def not a Black man.

(https://i.scdn.co/image/ab6761610000e5eb0611b0c36216936a143d0e25)

That's fair! Joe may be part taino or fully taino. A large number of PR do have taino backgrounds. But agreed, the major point is that he's not a black man. Though, I disagree with the use of the N-word regardless of race. His disrespect of black women is a major sticking point in this case though. We definitely have to demand respect b/c ppl will treat you the way you allow them to. And while Joe surrounds himself with a number of black people, I wonder how pro-black he really is. Not saying he isn't, just curious.
i kinda feel for people like Fat Joe who literally grew up in the hood, shared the same turf as Black people...grew up in the hip hop culture (which includes the "n" word)...had the same struggles...and genuinely feel ONE with the community

and are suddenly being told "u cant say that". i do think it's unreasonable to not only expect these people to know they shouldn't be saying something they've been saying for decades with no malice and no issue, but to also LABEL them a certain way - racist, etc.

BUT at the same time, if black people themselves have to spend time UN-learning things ..such as what words we use when speaking with one another...dropping words like "nappy" from our vocabulary - whether or not it's meant to be malicious....

someone like fat joe should be prepared to UN-learn things as well. and be open to dropping a word or two from his vocab too. he doesn't get a pass from the classroom. lol
ultimately it comes down to the rule of intent vs. impact....the latter being the most significant factor

so although i am reasonable enough to understand WHY someone like fat joe is comfortable using certain language, so it literally never offends me..... i feel he should be open to learning why it may offend people when it's said in 2021.




Title: Re: Fat Joe steps outta line with Blk women during Ja Rule verzuz
Post by: Martin Green on September 15, 2021, 09:26:31 AM
Quote from: paper planes on September 15, 2021, 09:07:07 AM
Quote from: Martin Green on September 15, 2021, 08:23:17 AM
Quote from: paper planes on September 15, 2021, 08:04:40 AM
Quote from: Martin Green on September 15, 2021, 08:01:42 AM
Joe's use of the N-word is also problematic. He is a white Hispanic. His parents are also white Hispanics. Not to mention their cuban descent. I'm going to generalize a bit, but Cubans are largely Republican with often anti-black views, especially those from Florida. Not saying Joe is Republican, but that certain upbringings and ideologies aligned w/ anti-blackness might inform part of his life perspective.
i don't think Joe is White.

he's very light but looks more Indigenous than anything. (Taino) then White and some African.
I know PR people who look like him and have parents that are leaning almost fully Taino.

his features - that nose, his eyes, etc. he's not a Ricky Martin by a long shot.
he's most definitely of color.

i can see ppl having a problem with him saying the "n" word though. he's def not a Black man.

(https://i.scdn.co/image/ab6761610000e5eb0611b0c36216936a143d0e25)

That's fair! Joe may be part taino or fully taino. A large number of PR do have taino backgrounds. But agreed, the major point is that he's not a black man. Though, I disagree with the use of the N-word regardless of race. His disrespect of black women is a major sticking point in this case though. We definitely have to demand respect b/c ppl will treat you the way you allow them to. And while Joe surrounds himself with a number of black people, I wonder how pro-black he really is. Not saying he isn't, just curious.
i kinda feel for people like Fat Joe who literally grew up in the hood, shared the same turf as Black people...grew up in the hip hop culture (which includes the "n" word)...had the same struggles...and genuinely feel ONE with the community

and are suddenly being told "u cant say that". i do think it's unreasonable to not only expect these people to know they shouldn't be saying something they've been saying for decades with no malice and no issue, but to also LABEL them a certain way - racist, etc.

BUT at the same time, if black people themselves have to spend time UN-learning things ..such as what words we use when speaking with one another...dropping words like "nappy" from our vocabulary - whether or not it's meant to be malicious....

someone like fat joe should be prepared to UN-learn things as well. and be open to dropping a word or two from his vocab too. he doesn't get a pass from the classroom. lol
ultimately it comes down to the rule of intent vs. impact....the latter being the most significant factor

so although i am reasonable enough to understand WHY someone like fat joe is comfortable using certain language, so it literally never offends me..... i feel he should be open to learning why it may offend people when it's said in 2021.

I agree w/ this! Joe definitely has to consider unlearning some things. B/c I grew up with poor white people who went to a majority black school and black culture was all they knew, but (at least for me), I made sure my white friends understood that just b/c some black people excuse the N-word doesn't mean all will.
Title: Re: Fat Joe steps outta line with Blk women during Ja Rule verzuz
Post by: The Only BLACK Kalmyks on September 15, 2021, 09:42:21 AM
Quote from: Martin Green on September 15, 2021, 09:26:31 AM
Quote from: paper planes on September 15, 2021, 09:07:07 AM
Quote from: Martin Green on September 15, 2021, 08:23:17 AM
Quote from: paper planes on September 15, 2021, 08:04:40 AM
Quote from: Martin Green on September 15, 2021, 08:01:42 AM
Joe's use of the N-word is also problematic. He is a white Hispanic. His parents are also white Hispanics. Not to mention their cuban descent. I'm going to generalize a bit, but Cubans are largely Republican with often anti-black views, especially those from Florida. Not saying Joe is Republican, but that certain upbringings and ideologies aligned w/ anti-blackness might inform part of his life perspective.
i don't think Joe is White.

he's very light but looks more Indigenous than anything. (Taino) then White and some African.
I know PR people who look like him and have parents that are leaning almost fully Taino.

his features - that nose, his eyes, etc. he's not a Ricky Martin by a long shot.
he's most definitely of color.

i can see ppl having a problem with him saying the "n" word though. he's def not a Black man.

(https://i.scdn.co/image/ab6761610000e5eb0611b0c36216936a143d0e25)

That's fair! Joe may be part taino or fully taino. A large number of PR do have taino backgrounds. But agreed, the major point is that he's not a black man. Though, I disagree with the use of the N-word regardless of race. His disrespect of black women is a major sticking point in this case though. We definitely have to demand respect b/c ppl will treat you the way you allow them to. And while Joe surrounds himself with a number of black people, I wonder how pro-black he really is. Not saying he isn't, just curious.
i kinda feel for people like Fat Joe who literally grew up in the hood, shared the same turf as Black people...grew up in the hip hop culture (which includes the "n" word)...had the same struggles...and genuinely feel ONE with the community

and are suddenly being told "u cant say that". i do think it's unreasonable to not only expect these people to know they shouldn't be saying something they've been saying for decades with no malice and no issue, but to also LABEL them a certain way - racist, etc.

BUT at the same time, if black people themselves have to spend time UN-learning things ..such as what words we use when speaking with one another...dropping words like "nappy" from our vocabulary - whether or not it's meant to be malicious....

someone like fat joe should be prepared to UN-learn things as well. and be open to dropping a word or two from his vocab too. he doesn't get a pass from the classroom. lol
ultimately it comes down to the rule of intent vs. impact....the latter being the most significant factor

so although i am reasonable enough to understand WHY someone like fat joe is comfortable using certain language, so it literally never offends me..... i feel he should be open to learning why it may offend people when it's said in 2021.

I agree w/ this! Joe definitely has to consider unlearning some things. B/c I grew up with poor white people who went to a majority black school and black culture was all they knew, but (at least for me), I made sure my white friends understood that just b/c some black people excuse the N-word doesn't mean all will.
:sistas:
Title: Re: Fat Joe steps outta line with Blk women during Ja Rule verzuz
Post by: klappa. on September 15, 2021, 09:46:11 AM
rem, vita, and mo loook tf GOOD
Title: Re: Fat Joe steps outta line with Blk women during Ja Rule verzuz
Post by: DopeSoul. on September 15, 2021, 09:47:24 AM
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Title: Re: Fat Joe steps outta line with Blk women during Ja Rule verzuz
Post by: Dr Naomi Campbell on September 15, 2021, 09:56:08 AM
Quote from: DopeSoul. on September 15, 2021, 09:47:24 AM
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Is it alfalfa
Title: Re: Fat Joe steps outta line with Blk women during Ja Rule verzuz
Post by: CHOKE on September 15, 2021, 09:57:51 AM
Awww Joe was a cutie 
Title: Re: Fat Joe steps outta line with Blk women during Ja Rule verzuz
Post by: klappa. on September 15, 2021, 10:01:22 AM
Quote from: DopeSoul. on September 15, 2021, 09:47:24 AM
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Title: Re: Fat Joe steps outta line with Blk women during Ja Rule verzuz
Post by: The Only BLACK Kalmyks on September 15, 2021, 10:23:32 AM
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/56/22/08/5622081c8e3d1fbbf8110873e808b143.jpg)

am mean....
Title: Re: Fat Joe steps outta line with Blk women during Ja Rule verzuz
Post by: Palladium on September 15, 2021, 10:27:56 AM
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Title: Re: Fat Joe steps outta line with Blk women during Ja Rule verzuz
Post by: The Only BLACK Kalmyks on September 15, 2021, 10:28:19 AM
Mariah def loves herself some "n" word lol

(https://c.tenor.com/LD4cyqPoY-UAAAAC/porsha-williams-real-housewives.gif)
Title: Re: Fat Joe steps outta line with Blk women during Ja Rule verzuz
Post by: Barbie Dangerous on September 15, 2021, 10:30:51 AM
Quote from: paper planes on September 15, 2021, 10:23:32 AM
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/56/22/08/5622081c8e3d1fbbf8110873e808b143.jpg)

am mean....
(https://c.tenor.com/YFZ3WU9vGjQAAAAM/scurry-brenda.gif)
Title: Re: Fat Joe steps outta line with Blk women during Ja Rule verzuz
Post by: klappa. on September 15, 2021, 10:31:17 AM
Quote from: paper planes on September 15, 2021, 10:23:32 AM
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/56/22/08/5622081c8e3d1fbbf8110873e808b143.jpg)

am mean....

yea she a cracker too
Title: Re: Fat Joe steps outta line with Blk women during Ja Rule verzuz
Post by: CHOKE on September 15, 2021, 10:37:27 AM
Moo was adorable 
Title: Re: Fat Joe steps outta line with Blk women during Ja Rule verzuz
Post by: Buy The Stars✨ on September 15, 2021, 10:42:12 AM
And why does this fat chimichanga get to say nigga ? He ain't black. I personally don't like it
Title: Re: Fat Joe steps outta line with Blk women during Ja Rule verzuz
Post by: Stunna Gor’ on September 15, 2021, 10:42:32 AM
Yea I didn't think it was genuinely that deep. Or that he had ill intent. Just poor judgment and choice of words.

I think he was just trying to give a Jadakiss mess and was just talking shit. Nothing internally to hurt anybody. But today's climate is just different and he gotta be more cautious with his words.
Title: Re: Fat Joe steps outta line with Blk women during Ja Rule verzuz
Post by: Buy The Stars✨ on September 15, 2021, 10:44:31 AM
Quote from: paper planes on September 15, 2021, 08:04:40 AM
Quote from: Martin Green on September 15, 2021, 08:01:42 AM
Joe's use of the N-word is also problematic. He is a white Hispanic. His parents are also white Hispanics. Not to mention their cuban descent. I'm going to generalize a bit, but Cubans are largely Republican with often anti-black views, especially those from Florida. Not saying Joe is Republican, but that certain upbringings and ideologies aligned w/ anti-blackness might inform part of his life perspective.
i don't think Joe is White.

he's very light but looks more Indigenous than anything. (Taino) then White and some African.
I know PR people who look like him and have parents that are leaning almost fully Taino.

his features - that nose, his eyes, etc. he's not a Ricky Martin by a long shot.
he's most definitely of color.

i can see ppl having a problem with him saying the "n" word though. he's def not a Black man.

(https://i.scdn.co/image/ab6761610000e5eb0611b0c36216936a143d0e25)

He presents as white Latino. Cause if that's the case Ricky Martin and Gina Rodriguez (who was dragged for saying it) should be able to say it too. We can't just pick a choose some Mexicans cause they are "down with the niggas"
Title: Re: Fat Joe steps outta line with Blk women during Ja Rule verzuz
Post by: The Only BLACK Kalmyks on September 15, 2021, 10:47:05 AM
Quote from: Troye on September 15, 2021, 10:44:31 AM
Quote from: paper planes on September 15, 2021, 08:04:40 AM
Quote from: Martin Green on September 15, 2021, 08:01:42 AM
Joe's use of the N-word is also problematic. He is a white Hispanic. His parents are also white Hispanics. Not to mention their cuban descent. I'm going to generalize a bit, but Cubans are largely Republican with often anti-black views, especially those from Florida. Not saying Joe is Republican, but that certain upbringings and ideologies aligned w/ anti-blackness might inform part of his life perspective.
i don't think Joe is White.

he's very light but looks more Indigenous than anything. (Taino) then White and some African.
I know PR people who look like him and have parents that are leaning almost fully Taino.

his features - that nose, his eyes, etc. he's not a Ricky Martin by a long shot.
he's most definitely of color.

i can see ppl having a problem with him saying the "n" word though. he's def not a Black man.

(https://i.scdn.co/image/ab6761610000e5eb0611b0c36216936a143d0e25)

He presents as white Latino. Cause if that's the case Ricky Martin and Gina Rodriguez (who was dragged for saying it) should be able to say it too. We can't just pick a choose some Mexicans cause they are "down with the niggas"
he looks nothing like Ricky Martin.
Title: Re: Fat Joe steps outta line with Blk women during Ja Rule verzuz
Post by: The Only BLACK Kalmyks on September 15, 2021, 10:49:35 AM
His eyes nose etc are all very Taino / indigenous

what I was talking to Martin about had nothing to do with how "down" that makes him

hdnfndnddnnd


it was just about his appearance / race . If u keep reading further in this thread ull see more of what I said specifically in regards to being "down"

But he's clearly of mixed lineage , like a lot of PRs are .
Title: Re: Fat Joe steps outta line with Blk women during Ja Rule verzuz
Post by: Buy The Stars✨ on September 15, 2021, 10:51:38 AM
im not saying he looks like ricky. im saying if joe can say it ricky can say it.  If cardi b can say it gina rodriguez can say it .. i PROMISE you no one is looking to see  what size their nose is to decide if they can say it or not. I know new york is dif maybe but in texas and more places down SOUTH ?  its are you BLACK or NO? 

Title: Re: Fat Joe steps outta line with Blk women during Ja Rule verzuz
Post by: DopeSoul. on September 15, 2021, 10:53:03 AM
(https://64.media.tumblr.com/f0a8fbc3abd71958371f402d0b236982/tumblr_inline_pg05zouQHG1sit9bf_540.gif)
Title: Re: Fat Joe steps outta line with Blk women during Ja Rule verzuz
Post by: The Only BLACK Kalmyks on September 15, 2021, 10:53:36 AM
Quote from: paper planes on September 15, 2021, 10:49:35 AM
His eyes nose etc are all very Taino / indigenous

what I was talking to Martin about had nothing to do with how "down" that makes him

hdnfndnddnnd


it was just about his appearance / race . If u keep reading further in this thread ull see more of what I said specifically in regards to being "down"

But he's clearly of mixed lineage , like a lot of PRs are .

Unless ur just determined to be on a soapbox this morning .

Fnfnfnf I actually said that joe should be open to be unlearning it .
Title: Re: Fat Joe steps outta line with Blk women during Ja Rule verzuz
Post by: Buy The Stars✨ on September 15, 2021, 10:55:58 AM
i rread what you wrote butter cup.  I know youre not really here for him saying it.  im just  adding more to the convo is all.. I think it should be all or nothing. I hate seeing some ppl ok with one person saying but not another cause they arent from the "hood" 
Title: Re: Fat Joe steps outta line with Blk women during Ja Rule verzuz
Post by: Dr Naomi Campbell on September 15, 2021, 10:58:29 AM
Quote from: Trey on September 15, 2021, 10:42:32 AM
Yea I didn't think it was genuinely that deep. Or that he had ill intent. Just poor judgment and choice of words.

I think he was just trying to give a Jadakiss mess and was just talking shit. Nothing internally to hurt anybody. But today's climate is just different and he gotta be more cautious with his words.
yh
Title: Re: Fat Joe steps outta line with Blk women during Ja Rule verzuz
Post by: Stunna Gor’ on September 15, 2021, 11:02:46 AM
Quote from: Troye on September 15, 2021, 10:51:38 AM
im not saying he looks like ricky. im saying if joe can say it ricky can say it.  If cardi b can say it gina rodriguez can say it .. i PROMISE you no one is looking to see  what size their nose is to decide if they can say it or not. I know new york is dif maybe but in texas and more places down SOUTH ?  its are you BLACK or NO?
ddddddddddddddffff

Yea, NYC is very different with defining boundaries and I had to adapt QUICKLY. Who's included in the "culture" stretches a bit.... FURTHER there.

:udontlookok:
Title: Re: Fat Joe steps outta line with Blk women during Ja Rule verzuz
Post by: Stunna Gor’ on September 15, 2021, 11:07:17 AM
It's "are you soot or NOT", in the south. Tacos ain't no honorary members.

DDDDDSDDDSDSDSSS

:sevynstreeter:
Title: Re: Fat Joe steps outta line with Blk women during Ja Rule verzuz
Post by: The Only BLACK Kalmyks on September 15, 2021, 11:09:55 AM
Quote from: Trey on September 15, 2021, 11:02:46 AM
Quote from: Troye on September 15, 2021, 10:51:38 AM
im not saying he looks like ricky. im saying if joe can say it ricky can say it.  If cardi b can say it gina rodriguez can say it .. i PROMISE you no one is looking to see  what size their nose is to decide if they can say it or not. I know new york is dif maybe but in texas and more places down SOUTH ?  its are you BLACK or NO?
ddddddddddddddffff

Yea, NYC is very different with defining boundaries and I had to adapt QUICKLY. Who's included in the "culture" stretches a bit.... FURTHER there.

:udontlookok:
right.

It's regional . That's why I can kinda understand why ppl have such a hard time understanding the dynamics of NYC . Although the conversations can be super frustrating

In places like North Carolina where I've been
I've been the line is def drawn a lot more clearly.

They even question black folks on their degree of blackness :omf: which I had literally never seen before

Title: Re: Fat Joe steps outta line with Blk women during Ja Rule verzuz
Post by: RAY7 on September 15, 2021, 11:17:27 AM
yea Joe was just talking shit and took it a little far
Title: Re: Fat Joe steps outta line with Blk women during Ja Rule verzuz
Post by: Stunna Gor’ on September 15, 2021, 11:20:56 AM
SHRHDJDHDJDNDDNNFFNGNFNGNFJFNFFNF

!!! This shift is so funny to me. 20 years ago, anybody that could do the damn electric slide or quote some Ludacris lyrics was brought to the cookout. Now we're so selective like we over goddam CAPACITY. Even niggers are being turned away at the door. 

:udontlookok:
Title: Re: Fat Joe steps outta line with Blk women during Ja Rule verzuz
Post by: Nine on September 15, 2021, 11:21:19 AM
FUCK Fat Joe.

He's ignorant af and too involved in black business.

Spic self.
Title: Re: Fat Joe steps outta line with Blk women during Ja Rule verzuz
Post by: RAY7 on September 15, 2021, 11:23:28 AM
That verzuz was one of the best though.
Both Kings have hits, it was King Ja for me though
Title: Re: Fat Joe steps outta line with Blk women during Ja Rule verzuz
Post by: Nine on September 15, 2021, 11:27:10 AM
Quote from: paper planes on September 15, 2021, 10:28:19 AM
Mariah def loves herself some "n" word lol

(https://c.tenor.com/LD4cyqPoY-UAAAAC/porsha-williams-real-housewives.gif)
f

Mariah's never said the n word in a song or on video

You tried it bby

(https://c.tenor.com/LD4cyqPoY-UAAAAC/porsha-williams-real-housewives.gif)m
Title: Re: Fat Joe steps outta line with Blk women during Ja Rule verzuz
Post by: klappa. on September 15, 2021, 11:28:23 AM
Quote from: Trey on September 15, 2021, 10:42:32 AM
Yea I didn't think it was genuinely that deep. Or that he had ill intent. Just poor judgment and choice of words.

I think he was just trying to give a Jadakiss mess and was just talking shit. Nothing internally to hurt anybody. But today's climate is just different and he gotta be more cautious with his words.

fuck that

he KNEW those girls were backstage and still decided to call them dusty bitches from a crack house

this fat michelin man fag can go
Title: Re: Fat Joe steps outta line with Blk women during Ja Rule verzuz
Post by: The Only BLACK Kalmyks on September 15, 2021, 11:31:29 AM
Quote from: Trey on September 15, 2021, 11:20:56 AM
SHRHDJDHDJDNDDNNFFNGNFNGNFJFNFFNF

!!! This shift is so funny to me. 20 years ago, anybody that could do the damn electric slide or quote some Ludacris lyrics was brought to the cookout. Now we're so selective like we over goddam CAPACITY. Even niggers are being turned away at the door.

:udontlookok:
am mean other races do it
Gate keeping . Asians will be quick to drawn the line if they see a DROP of "other" in someone . Same with White people historically . Curry Indians , etc

So shit why can't black ppl do it too. I'm honestly not against it

BUT I think it'll be a lot more confusing and harder for us to do that because there's much more diversity in our community than Asians , etc. you can put two Asian ppl next to each other and they will look exactly the same . (No shade)

It's just not that simple for black people - mostly due to generational mixing from slavery . Which is why Rachel passed as a Creole tea for years with no objections :omf:



Title: Re: Fat Joe steps outta line with Blk women during Ja Rule verzuz
Post by: Marilyn on September 15, 2021, 11:35:00 AM
Puerto Ricans and Dominicans use the N
word like water. That's a long debated topic.
Title: Re: Fat Joe steps outta line with Blk women during Ja Rule verzuz
Post by: Kalifornia. on September 15, 2021, 11:35:57 AM
Quote from: Troye on September 15, 2021, 10:44:31 AM
Quote from: paper planes on September 15, 2021, 08:04:40 AM
Quote from: Martin Green on September 15, 2021, 08:01:42 AM
Joe's use of the N-word is also problematic. He is a white Hispanic. His parents are also white Hispanics. Not to mention their cuban descent. I'm going to generalize a bit, but Cubans are largely Republican with often anti-black views, especially those from Florida. Not saying Joe is Republican, but that certain upbringings and ideologies aligned w/ anti-blackness might inform part of his life perspective.
i don't think Joe is White.

he's very light but looks more Indigenous than anything. (Taino) then White and some African.
I know PR people who look like him and have parents that are leaning almost fully Taino.

his features - that nose, his eyes, etc. he's not a Ricky Martin by a long shot.
he's most definitely of color.

i can see ppl having a problem with him saying the "n" word though. he's def not a Black man.

(https://i.scdn.co/image/ab6761610000e5eb0611b0c36216936a143d0e25)

He presents as white Latino. Cause if that's the case Ricky Martin and Gina Rodriguez (who was dragged for saying it) should be able to say it too. We can't just pick a choose some Mexicans cause they are "down with the niggas"

He does not present as White Latino. ANYONE can look at Joe and see he's not a White man.

He has a light complexion, but those features are telling a completely different story.
Title: Re: Fat Joe steps outta line with Blk women during Ja Rule verzuz
Post by: Kalifornia. on September 15, 2021, 11:38:04 AM
Quote from: RAY7 on September 15, 2021, 11:17:27 AM
yea Joe was just talking shit and took it a little far

That's how I feel
Title: Re: Fat Joe steps outta line with Blk women during Ja Rule verzuz
Post by: The Only BLACK Kalmyks on September 15, 2021, 11:41:42 AM
Joe is like his buddy king pun .

These are not white men ndndndnd
Mixed with white sure but not white

(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/64/7b/b5/647bb563381ebde87f7de4acce014914--big-pun-hiphop-beats.jpg)
Title: Re: Fat Joe steps outta line with Blk women during Ja Rule verzuz
Post by: Buy The Stars✨ on September 15, 2021, 11:46:17 AM
Quote from: Kalifornia. on September 15, 2021, 11:35:57 AM
Quote from: Troye on September 15, 2021, 10:44:31 AM
Quote from: paper planes on September 15, 2021, 08:04:40 AM
Quote from: Martin Green on September 15, 2021, 08:01:42 AM
Joe's use of the N-word is also problematic. He is a white Hispanic. His parents are also white Hispanics. Not to mention their cuban descent. I'm going to generalize a bit, but Cubans are largely Republican with often anti-black views, especially those from Florida. Not saying Joe is Republican, but that certain upbringings and ideologies aligned w/ anti-blackness might inform part of his life perspective.
i don't think Joe is White.

he's very light but looks more Indigenous than anything. (Taino) then White and some African.
I know PR people who look like him and have parents that are leaning almost fully Taino.

his features - that nose, his eyes, etc. he's not a Ricky Martin by a long shot.
he's most definitely of color.

i can see ppl having a problem with him saying the "n" word though. he's def not a Black man.

(https://i.scdn.co/image/ab6761610000e5eb0611b0c36216936a143d0e25)

He presents as white Latino. Cause if that's the case Ricky Martin and Gina Rodriguez (who was dragged for saying it) should be able to say it too. We can't just pick a choose some Mexicans cause they are "down with the niggas"

He does not present as White Latino. ANYONE can look at Joe and see he's not a White man.

He has a light complexion, but those features are telling a completely different story.

he is LIGHT SKIN. someone could think he is white
Title: Re: Fat Joe steps outta line with Blk women during Ja Rule verzuz
Post by: The Only BLACK Kalmyks on September 15, 2021, 11:51:03 AM
Quote from: Troye on September 15, 2021, 11:46:17 AM
Quote from: Kalifornia. on September 15, 2021, 11:35:57 AM
Quote from: Troye on September 15, 2021, 10:44:31 AM
Quote from: paper planes on September 15, 2021, 08:04:40 AM
Quote from: Martin Green on September 15, 2021, 08:01:42 AM
Joe's use of the N-word is also problematic. He is a white Hispanic. His parents are also white Hispanics. Not to mention their cuban descent. I'm going to generalize a bit, but Cubans are largely Republican with often anti-black views, especially those from Florida. Not saying Joe is Republican, but that certain upbringings and ideologies aligned w/ anti-blackness might inform part of his life perspective.
i don't think Joe is White.

he's very light but looks more Indigenous than anything. (Taino) then White and some African.
I know PR people who look like him and have parents that are leaning almost fully Taino.

his features - that nose, his eyes, etc. he's not a Ricky Martin by a long shot.
he's most definitely of color.

i can see ppl having a problem with him saying the "n" word though. he's def not a Black man.

(https://i.scdn.co/image/ab6761610000e5eb0611b0c36216936a143d0e25)

He presents as white Latino. Cause if that's the case Ricky Martin and Gina Rodriguez (who was dragged for saying it) should be able to say it too. We can't just pick a choose some Mexicans cause they are "down with the niggas"

He does not present as White Latino. ANYONE can look at Joe and see he's not a White man.

He has a light complexion, but those features are telling a completely different story.

he is LIGHT SKIN. someone could think he is white
using that logic

U think people would assume pun was white?

(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/64/7b/b5/647bb563381ebde87f7de4acce014914--big-pun-hiphop-beats.jpg)
Title: Re: Fat Joe steps outta line with Blk women during Ja Rule verzuz
Post by: Kalifornia. on September 15, 2021, 11:55:28 AM
Quote from: Troye on September 15, 2021, 11:46:17 AM
Quote from: Kalifornia. on September 15, 2021, 11:35:57 AM
Quote from: Troye on September 15, 2021, 10:44:31 AM
Quote from: paper planes on September 15, 2021, 08:04:40 AM
Quote from: Martin Green on September 15, 2021, 08:01:42 AM
Joe's use of the N-word is also problematic. He is a white Hispanic. His parents are also white Hispanics. Not to mention their cuban descent. I'm going to generalize a bit, but Cubans are largely Republican with often anti-black views, especially those from Florida. Not saying Joe is Republican, but that certain upbringings and ideologies aligned w/ anti-blackness might inform part of his life perspective.
i don't think Joe is White.

he's very light but looks more Indigenous than anything. (Taino) then White and some African.
I know PR people who look like him and have parents that are leaning almost fully Taino.

his features - that nose, his eyes, etc. he's not a Ricky Martin by a long shot.
he's most definitely of color.

i can see ppl having a problem with him saying the "n" word though. he's def not a Black man.

(https://i.scdn.co/image/ab6761610000e5eb0611b0c36216936a143d0e25)

He presents as white Latino. Cause if that's the case Ricky Martin and Gina Rodriguez (who was dragged for saying it) should be able to say it too. We can't just pick a choose some Mexicans cause they are "down with the niggas"

He does not present as White Latino. ANYONE can look at Joe and see he's not a White man.

He has a light complexion, but those features are telling a completely different story.

he is LIGHT SKIN. someone could think he is white

:dead: :uhh:

Asians are light skinned too bby

(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/41NUA-R4OxL.jpg)

That looks like a White man to you?
Title: Re: Fat Joe steps outta line with Blk women during Ja Rule verzuz
Post by: Buy The Stars✨ on September 15, 2021, 11:55:40 AM
Quote from: paper planes on September 15, 2021, 11:51:03 AM
Quote from: Troye on September 15, 2021, 11:46:17 AM
Quote from: Kalifornia. on September 15, 2021, 11:35:57 AM
Quote from: Troye on September 15, 2021, 10:44:31 AM
Quote from: paper planes on September 15, 2021, 08:04:40 AM
Quote from: Martin Green on September 15, 2021, 08:01:42 AM
Joe's use of the N-word is also problematic. He is a white Hispanic. His parents are also white Hispanics. Not to mention their cuban descent. I'm going to generalize a bit, but Cubans are largely Republican with often anti-black views, especially those from Florida. Not saying Joe is Republican, but that certain upbringings and ideologies aligned w/ anti-blackness might inform part of his life perspective.
i don't think Joe is White.

he's very light but looks more Indigenous than anything. (Taino) then White and some African.
I know PR people who look like him and have parents that are leaning almost fully Taino.

his features - that nose, his eyes, etc. he's not a Ricky Martin by a long shot.
he's most definitely of color.

i can see ppl having a problem with him saying the "n" word though. he's def not a Black man.

(https://i.scdn.co/image/ab6761610000e5eb0611b0c36216936a143d0e25)

He presents as white Latino. Cause if that's the case Ricky Martin and Gina Rodriguez (who was dragged for saying it) should be able to say it too. We can't just pick a choose some Mexicans cause they are "down with the niggas"

He does not present as White Latino. ANYONE can look at Joe and see he's not a White man.

He has a light complexion, but those features are telling a completely different story.

he is LIGHT SKIN. someone could think he is white
using that logic

U think people would assume pun was white?

(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/64/7b/b5/647bb563381ebde87f7de4acce014914--big-pun-hiphop-beats.jpg)

not from this pic no but he def aint black thats for sure
Title: Re: Fat Joe steps outta line with Blk women during Ja Rule verzuz
Post by: RAY7 on September 15, 2021, 11:56:24 AM
Nick.... :dead:
Title: Re: Fat Joe steps outta line with Blk women during Ja Rule verzuz
Post by: Buy The Stars✨ on September 15, 2021, 11:57:22 AM
Quote from: Kalifornia. on September 15, 2021, 11:55:28 AM
Quote from: Troye on September 15, 2021, 11:46:17 AM
Quote from: Kalifornia. on September 15, 2021, 11:35:57 AM
Quote from: Troye on September 15, 2021, 10:44:31 AM
Quote from: paper planes on September 15, 2021, 08:04:40 AM
Quote from: Martin Green on September 15, 2021, 08:01:42 AM
Joe's use of the N-word is also problematic. He is a white Hispanic. His parents are also white Hispanics. Not to mention their cuban descent. I'm going to generalize a bit, but Cubans are largely Republican with often anti-black views, especially those from Florida. Not saying Joe is Republican, but that certain upbringings and ideologies aligned w/ anti-blackness might inform part of his life perspective.
i don't think Joe is White.

he's very light but looks more Indigenous than anything. (Taino) then White and some African.
I know PR people who look like him and have parents that are leaning almost fully Taino.

his features - that nose, his eyes, etc. he's not a Ricky Martin by a long shot.
he's most definitely of color.

i can see ppl having a problem with him saying the "n" word though. he's def not a Black man.

(https://i.scdn.co/image/ab6761610000e5eb0611b0c36216936a143d0e25)

He presents as white Latino. Cause if that's the case Ricky Martin and Gina Rodriguez (who was dragged for saying it) should be able to say it too. We can't just pick a choose some Mexicans cause they are "down with the niggas"

He does not present as White Latino. ANYONE can look at Joe and see he's not a White man.

He has a light complexion, but those features are telling a completely different story.

he is LIGHT SKIN. someone could think he is white

:dead: :uhh:

Asians are light skinned too bby

(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/41NUA-R4OxL.jpg)

That looks like a White man to you?

now you trying to be funny .. clearly he is part of the fortune cookie crew
Title: Re: Fat Joe steps outta line with Blk women during Ja Rule verzuz
Post by: The Only BLACK Kalmyks on September 15, 2021, 11:57:38 AM
Quote from: Troye on September 15, 2021, 11:55:40 AM
Quote from: paper planes on September 15, 2021, 11:51:03 AM
Quote from: Troye on September 15, 2021, 11:46:17 AM
Quote from: Kalifornia. on September 15, 2021, 11:35:57 AM
Quote from: Troye on September 15, 2021, 10:44:31 AM
Quote from: paper planes on September 15, 2021, 08:04:40 AM
Quote from: Martin Green on September 15, 2021, 08:01:42 AM
Joe's use of the N-word is also problematic. He is a white Hispanic. His parents are also white Hispanics. Not to mention their cuban descent. I'm going to generalize a bit, but Cubans are largely Republican with often anti-black views, especially those from Florida. Not saying Joe is Republican, but that certain upbringings and ideologies aligned w/ anti-blackness might inform part of his life perspective.
i don't think Joe is White.

he's very light but looks more Indigenous than anything. (Taino) then White and some African.
I know PR people who look like him and have parents that are leaning almost fully Taino.

his features - that nose, his eyes, etc. he's not a Ricky Martin by a long shot.
he's most definitely of color.

i can see ppl having a problem with him saying the "n" word though. he's def not a Black man.

(https://i.scdn.co/image/ab6761610000e5eb0611b0c36216936a143d0e25)

He presents as white Latino. Cause if that's the case Ricky Martin and Gina Rodriguez (who was dragged for saying it) should be able to say it too. We can't just pick a choose some Mexicans cause they are "down with the niggas"

He does not present as White Latino. ANYONE can look at Joe and see he's not a White man.

He has a light complexion, but those features are telling a completely different story.

he is LIGHT SKIN. someone could think he is white
using that logic

U think people would assume pun was white?

(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/64/7b/b5/647bb563381ebde87f7de4acce014914--big-pun-hiphop-beats.jpg)

not from this pic no but he def aint black thats for sure
ok that's more reasonable .

Title: Re: Fat Joe steps outta line with Blk women during Ja Rule verzuz
Post by: Buy The Stars✨ on September 15, 2021, 11:57:49 AM
at the end of the day.  fat joe shouldnt say the N word .. he aint BLACK 
Title: Re: Fat Joe steps outta line with Blk women during Ja Rule verzuz
Post by: The Only BLACK Kalmyks on September 15, 2021, 11:58:18 AM
Quote from: Troye on September 15, 2021, 11:57:22 AM
Quote from: Kalifornia. on September 15, 2021, 11:55:28 AM
Quote from: Troye on September 15, 2021, 11:46:17 AM
Quote from: Kalifornia. on September 15, 2021, 11:35:57 AM
Quote from: Troye on September 15, 2021, 10:44:31 AM
Quote from: paper planes on September 15, 2021, 08:04:40 AM
Quote from: Martin Green on September 15, 2021, 08:01:42 AM
Joe's use of the N-word is also problematic. He is a white Hispanic. His parents are also white Hispanics. Not to mention their cuban descent. I'm going to generalize a bit, but Cubans are largely Republican with often anti-black views, especially those from Florida. Not saying Joe is Republican, but that certain upbringings and ideologies aligned w/ anti-blackness might inform part of his life perspective.
i don't think Joe is White.

he's very light but looks more Indigenous than anything. (Taino) then White and some African.
I know PR people who look like him and have parents that are leaning almost fully Taino.

his features - that nose, his eyes, etc. he's not a Ricky Martin by a long shot.
he's most definitely of color.

i can see ppl having a problem with him saying the "n" word though. he's def not a Black man.

(https://i.scdn.co/image/ab6761610000e5eb0611b0c36216936a143d0e25)

He presents as white Latino. Cause if that's the case Ricky Martin and Gina Rodriguez (who was dragged for saying it) should be able to say it too. We can't just pick a choose some Mexicans cause they are "down with the niggas"

He does not present as White Latino. ANYONE can look at Joe and see he's not a White man.

He has a light complexion, but those features are telling a completely different story.

he is LIGHT SKIN. someone could think he is white

:dead: :uhh:

Asians are light skinned too bby

(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/41NUA-R4OxL.jpg)

That looks like a White man to you?

now you trying to be funny .. clearly he is part of the fortune cookie crew
I don't think be was being funny

Fnnfnfnff he was just applying ur logic to an example
Title: Re: Fat Joe steps outta line with Blk women during Ja Rule verzuz
Post by: Kalifornia. on September 15, 2021, 12:00:12 PM
Quote from: Troye on September 15, 2021, 11:57:22 AM
Quote from: Kalifornia. on September 15, 2021, 11:55:28 AM
Quote from: Troye on September 15, 2021, 11:46:17 AM
Quote from: Kalifornia. on September 15, 2021, 11:35:57 AM
Quote from: Troye on September 15, 2021, 10:44:31 AM
Quote from: paper planes on September 15, 2021, 08:04:40 AM
Quote from: Martin Green on September 15, 2021, 08:01:42 AM
Joe's use of the N-word is also problematic. He is a white Hispanic. His parents are also white Hispanics. Not to mention their cuban descent. I'm going to generalize a bit, but Cubans are largely Republican with often anti-black views, especially those from Florida. Not saying Joe is Republican, but that certain upbringings and ideologies aligned w/ anti-blackness might inform part of his life perspective.
i don't think Joe is White.

he's very light but looks more Indigenous than anything. (Taino) then White and some African.
I know PR people who look like him and have parents that are leaning almost fully Taino.

his features - that nose, his eyes, etc. he's not a Ricky Martin by a long shot.
he's most definitely of color.

i can see ppl having a problem with him saying the "n" word though. he's def not a Black man.

(https://i.scdn.co/image/ab6761610000e5eb0611b0c36216936a143d0e25)

He presents as white Latino. Cause if that's the case Ricky Martin and Gina Rodriguez (who was dragged for saying it) should be able to say it too. We can't just pick a choose some Mexicans cause they are "down with the niggas"

He does not present as White Latino. ANYONE can look at Joe and see he's not a White man.

He has a light complexion, but those features are telling a completely different story.

he is LIGHT SKIN. someone could think he is white

:dead: :uhh:

Asians are light skinned too bby

(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/41NUA-R4OxL.jpg)

That looks like a White man to you?

now you trying to be funny .. clearly he is part of the fortune cookie crew

And clearly Joe isn't White. Like... :uhh:
Title: Re: Fat Joe steps outta line with Blk women during Ja Rule verzuz
Post by: Kalifornia. on September 15, 2021, 12:00:38 PM
Quote from: paper planes on September 15, 2021, 11:58:18 AM
Quote from: Troye on September 15, 2021, 11:57:22 AM
Quote from: Kalifornia. on September 15, 2021, 11:55:28 AM
Quote from: Troye on September 15, 2021, 11:46:17 AM
Quote from: Kalifornia. on September 15, 2021, 11:35:57 AM
Quote from: Troye on September 15, 2021, 10:44:31 AM
Quote from: paper planes on September 15, 2021, 08:04:40 AM
Quote from: Martin Green on September 15, 2021, 08:01:42 AM
Joe's use of the N-word is also problematic. He is a white Hispanic. His parents are also white Hispanics. Not to mention their cuban descent. I'm going to generalize a bit, but Cubans are largely Republican with often anti-black views, especially those from Florida. Not saying Joe is Republican, but that certain upbringings and ideologies aligned w/ anti-blackness might inform part of his life perspective.
i don't think Joe is White.

he's very light but looks more Indigenous than anything. (Taino) then White and some African.
I know PR people who look like him and have parents that are leaning almost fully Taino.

his features - that nose, his eyes, etc. he's not a Ricky Martin by a long shot.
he's most definitely of color.

i can see ppl having a problem with him saying the "n" word though. he's def not a Black man.

(https://i.scdn.co/image/ab6761610000e5eb0611b0c36216936a143d0e25)

He presents as white Latino. Cause if that's the case Ricky Martin and Gina Rodriguez (who was dragged for saying it) should be able to say it too. We can't just pick a choose some Mexicans cause they are "down with the niggas"

He does not present as White Latino. ANYONE can look at Joe and see he's not a White man.

He has a light complexion, but those features are telling a completely different story.

he is LIGHT SKIN. someone could think he is white

:dead: :uhh:

Asians are light skinned too bby

(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/41NUA-R4OxL.jpg)

That looks like a White man to you?

now you trying to be funny .. clearly he is part of the fortune cookie crew
I don't think be was being funny

Fnnfnfnff he was just applying ur logic to an example

!!!
Exactly
Title: Re: Fat Joe steps outta line with Blk women during Ja Rule verzuz
Post by: Buy The Stars✨ on September 15, 2021, 12:01:40 PM
joe is way lighter than that jap you posted
Title: Re: Fat Joe steps outta line with Blk women during Ja Rule verzuz
Post by: Nine on September 15, 2021, 12:02:29 PM
Quote from: Troye on September 15, 2021, 11:57:49 AM
at the end of the day.  fat joe shouldnt say the N word .. he aint BLACK
speak King
Title: Re: Fat Joe steps outta line with Blk women during Ja Rule verzuz
Post by: RAY7 on September 15, 2021, 12:02:29 PM
Nick arent you bi-racial?
Title: Re: Fat Joe steps outta line with Blk women during Ja Rule verzuz
Post by: 𝖘𝖖𝖚𝖎𝖉 on September 15, 2021, 12:02:33 PM
Quote from: paper planes on September 15, 2021, 11:31:29 AM
BUT I think it'll be a lot more confusing and harder for us to do that because there's much more diversity in our community than Asians , etc. you can put two Asian ppl next to each other and they will look exactly the same . (No shade)
That's a very offensive thing to say. So a Korean and an Indonesian looks the same to you?
Title: Re: Fat Joe steps outta line with Blk women during Ja Rule verzuz
Post by: The Only BLACK Kalmyks on September 15, 2021, 12:03:07 PM
To be completely fair ... considering that joe is obviously mixed I can see some people maybe seeing him as White .

I mean Martin also said he considers him to be White so we have at least two people in this thread who agree on that .

That's the thing with people of mixed heritage ... it depends on who is looking at them. I've seen people say Mariah looks like a white woman and others who are like  :uhh: :uhh: when people deny her blackness .

But she's mixed so it makes sense . It can be a toss up
Title: Re: Fat Joe steps outta line with Blk women during Ja Rule verzuz
Post by: Barbie Dangerous on September 15, 2021, 12:03:08 PM
I personally thought Fat Joe and Big Pun were African American.
Title: Re: Fat Joe steps outta line with Blk women during Ja Rule verzuz
Post by: The Only BLACK Kalmyks on September 15, 2021, 12:03:45 PM
Quote from: 𝖘𝖖𝖚𝖎𝖉 on September 15, 2021, 12:02:33 PM
Quote from: paper planes on September 15, 2021, 11:31:29 AM
BUT I think it'll be a lot more confusing and harder for us to do that because there's much more diversity in our community than Asians , etc. you can put two Asian ppl next to each other and they will look exactly the same . (No shade)
That's a very offensive thing to say. So a Korean and an Indonesian looks the same to you?
I should be specific

East Asians . Korean Japanese Chinese

Def not the sexy ones like south East Asians :woohoo:

The brown ones have more variety . And are hot tbh.
Title: Re: Fat Joe steps outta line with Blk women during Ja Rule verzuz
Post by: The Only BLACK Kalmyks on September 15, 2021, 12:04:31 PM
Quote from: Planet Her on September 15, 2021, 12:03:08 PM
I personally thought Fat Joe and Big Pun were African American.
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Title: Re: Fat Joe steps outta line with Blk women during Ja Rule verzuz
Post by: RAY7 on September 15, 2021, 12:05:20 PM
Quote from: Planet Her on September 15, 2021, 12:03:08 PM
I personally thought Fat Joe and Big Pun were African American.
:dead:
Title: Re: Fat Joe steps outta line with Blk women during Ja Rule verzuz
Post by: Kalifornia. on September 15, 2021, 12:06:52 PM
Quote from: Troye on September 15, 2021, 12:01:40 PM
joe is way lighter than that jap you posted

They're about the same complexion. Nick you can't be serious.
Title: Re: Fat Joe steps outta line with Blk women during Ja Rule verzuz
Post by: Kalifornia. on September 15, 2021, 12:08:30 PM
Quote from: Planet Her on September 15, 2021, 12:03:08 PM
I personally thought Fat Joe and Big Pun were African American.

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I legit thought Joe was a light skinned or biracial Black person at first.
Title: Re: Fat Joe steps outta line with Blk women during Ja Rule verzuz
Post by: Dr Naomi Campbell on September 15, 2021, 12:10:16 PM
This thread was hilarious
Title: Re: Fat Joe steps outta line with Blk women during Ja Rule verzuz
Post by: The Only BLACK Kalmyks on September 15, 2021, 12:10:38 PM
Quote from: Kalifornia. on September 15, 2021, 12:08:30 PM
Quote from: Planet Her on September 15, 2021, 12:03:08 PM
I personally thought Fat Joe and Big Pun were African American.

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I legit thought Joe was a light skinned or biracial Black person at first.
I can def see that. I've said joe could just say he's Creole and people would buy it .

But for some reason bow saying African American made me scream
Title: Re: Fat Joe steps outta line with Blk women during Ja Rule verzuz
Post by: The Only BLACK Kalmyks on September 15, 2021, 12:14:27 PM
And sub-zero I'll deal with u later .

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Title: Re: Fat Joe steps outta line with Blk women during Ja Rule verzuz
Post by: RAY7 on September 15, 2021, 12:14:30 PM
but Joe & Pun both always broadcasted being hispanic :dead:
from their song lyrics to their videos/clothing etc
Title: Re: Fat Joe steps outta line with Blk women during Ja Rule verzuz
Post by: Barbie Dangerous on September 15, 2021, 12:17:28 PM
Quote from: paper planes on September 15, 2021, 12:10:38 PM
Quote from: Kalifornia. on September 15, 2021, 12:08:30 PM
Quote from: Planet Her on September 15, 2021, 12:03:08 PM
I personally thought Fat Joe and Big Pun were African American.

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I legit thought Joe was a light skinned or biracial Black person at first.
I can def see that. I've said joe could just say he's Creole and people would buy it .

But for some reason bow saying African American made me scream
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Title: Re: Fat Joe steps outta line with Blk women during Ja Rule verzuz
Post by: Barbie Dangerous on September 15, 2021, 12:18:44 PM
Quote from: RAY7 on September 15, 2021, 12:14:30 PM
but Joe & Pun both always broadcasted being hispanic :dead:
from their song lyrics to their videos/clothing etc
I mean when I first saw them/before the Puerto Rican representation
Title: Re: Fat Joe steps outta line with Blk women during Ja Rule verzuz
Post by: The Only BLACK Kalmyks on September 15, 2021, 12:19:02 PM
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Title: Re: Fat Joe steps outta line with Blk women during Ja Rule verzuz
Post by: Stunna Gor’ on September 15, 2021, 12:19:18 PM
Quote from: Planet Her on September 15, 2021, 12:17:28 PM
Quote from: paper planes on September 15, 2021, 12:10:38 PM
Quote from: Kalifornia. on September 15, 2021, 12:08:30 PM
Quote from: Planet Her on September 15, 2021, 12:03:08 PM
I personally thought Fat Joe and Big Pun were African American.

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I legit thought Joe was a light skinned or biracial Black person at first.
I can def see that. I've said joe could just say he's Creole and people would buy it .

But for some reason bow saying African American made me scream
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Title: Re: Fat Joe steps outta line with Blk women during Ja Rule verzuz
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Title: Re: Fat Joe steps outta line with Blk women during Ja Rule verzuz
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Title: Re: Fat Joe steps outta line with Blk women during Ja Rule verzuz
Post by: Stunna Gor’ on September 15, 2021, 12:23:13 PM
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Title: Re: Fat Joe steps outta line with Blk women during Ja Rule verzuz
Post by: The Only BLACK Kalmyks on September 15, 2021, 12:25:02 PM
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Title: Re: Fat Joe steps outta line with Blk women during Ja Rule verzuz
Post by: Kalifornia. on September 15, 2021, 12:25:36 PM
Quote from: paper planes on September 15, 2021, 12:10:38 PM
Quote from: Kalifornia. on September 15, 2021, 12:08:30 PM
Quote from: Planet Her on September 15, 2021, 12:03:08 PM
I personally thought Fat Joe and Big Pun were African American.

!!!
I legit thought Joe was a light skinned or biracial Black person at first.
I can def see that. I've said joe could just say he's Creole and people would buy it .

But for some reason bow saying African American made me scream

I was legit just about to say this. He could be right in the mix with Tina and her Creole cousins.

I'm not saying he has the right to say the n-word, because he doesn't, but I'd never in a million years look at Joe and think White man.
Title: Re: Fat Joe steps outta line with Blk women during Ja Rule verzuz
Post by: JCJ on September 15, 2021, 12:37:58 PM
Quote from: Planet Her on September 15, 2021, 12:03:08 PM
I personally thought Fat Joe and Big Pun were African American.

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Title: Re: Fat Joe steps outta line with Blk women during Ja Rule verzuz
Post by: Buy The Stars✨ on September 15, 2021, 12:57:22 PM
Quote from: RAY7 on September 15, 2021, 12:02:29 PM
Nick arent you bi-racial?

yeah and ?
Title: Re: Fat Joe steps outta line with Blk women during Ja Rule verzuz
Post by: Buy The Stars✨ on September 15, 2021, 12:58:32 PM
Quote from: Kalifornia. on September 15, 2021, 12:25:36 PM
Quote from: paper planes on September 15, 2021, 12:10:38 PM
Quote from: Kalifornia. on September 15, 2021, 12:08:30 PM
Quote from: Planet Her on September 15, 2021, 12:03:08 PM
I personally thought Fat Joe and Big Pun were African American.

!!!
I legit thought Joe was a light skinned or biracial Black person at first.
I can def see that. I've said joe could just say he's Creole and people would buy it .

But for some reason bow saying African American made me scream

I was legit just about to say this. He could be right in the mix with Tina and her Creole cousins.

I'm not saying he has the right to say the n-word, because he doesn't, but I'd never in a million years look at Joe and think White man.

thats fair but im just sayin just cause YOU dont see it doesnt mean someone else wont is all i am saying.  at least we agree he shouldnt be saying it
Title: Re: Fat Joe steps outta line with Blk women during Ja Rule verzuz
Post by: RAY7 on September 15, 2021, 01:01:55 PM
Quote from: Troye on September 15, 2021, 12:57:22 PM
Quote from: RAY7 on September 15, 2021, 12:02:29 PM
Nick arent you bi-racial?

yeah and ?
and a lot of ppl are starting to say bi-racials aren't Black so...
Title: Re: Fat Joe steps outta line with Blk women during Ja Rule verzuz
Post by: Buy The Stars✨ on September 15, 2021, 01:05:49 PM
Quote from: RAY7 on September 15, 2021, 01:01:55 PM
Quote from: Troye on September 15, 2021, 12:57:22 PM
Quote from: RAY7 on September 15, 2021, 12:02:29 PM
Nick arent you bi-racial?

yeah and ?
and a lot of ppl are starting to say bi-racials aren't Black so...

well i guess j cole and drake need to watch out then HUH?
Title: Re: Fat Joe steps outta line with Blk women during Ja Rule verzuz
Post by: RAY7 on September 15, 2021, 01:10:18 PM
Quote from: Troye on September 15, 2021, 01:05:49 PM
Quote from: RAY7 on September 15, 2021, 01:01:55 PM
Quote from: Troye on September 15, 2021, 12:57:22 PM
Quote from: RAY7 on September 15, 2021, 12:02:29 PM
Nick arent you bi-racial?

yeah and ?
and a lot of ppl are starting to say bi-racials aren't Black so...

well i guess j cole and drake need to watch out then HUH?
yep
Title: Re: Fat Joe steps outta line with Blk women during Ja Rule verzuz
Post by: Edge gorl on September 15, 2021, 01:32:01 PM
Disrespectful fat fck
Title: Re: Fat Joe steps outta line with Blk women during Ja Rule verzuz
Post by: Kalifornia. on September 15, 2021, 01:40:15 PM
Quote from: Troye on September 15, 2021, 12:58:32 PM
Quote from: Kalifornia. on September 15, 2021, 12:25:36 PM
Quote from: paper planes on September 15, 2021, 12:10:38 PM
Quote from: Kalifornia. on September 15, 2021, 12:08:30 PM
Quote from: Planet Her on September 15, 2021, 12:03:08 PM
I personally thought Fat Joe and Big Pun were African American.

!!!
I legit thought Joe was a light skinned or biracial Black person at first.
I can def see that. I've said joe could just say he's Creole and people would buy it .

But for some reason bow saying African American made me scream

I was legit just about to say this. He could be right in the mix with Tina and her Creole cousins.

I'm not saying he has the right to say the n-word, because he doesn't, but I'd never in a million years look at Joe and think White man.

thats fair but im just sayin just cause YOU dont see it doesnt mean someone else wont is all i am saying.  at least we agree he shouldnt be saying it

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Do you think he looks like a White man?