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I love both dearly but i kinda gree with him.
NSN - the better album song for song
FM - the better album sonically and vocally.
Oh shit! I wonder what two songs of his Darkchild kicked off NSN smh
Djdjdududududu
Im on the fence but they kinda right
nsn >>>>>>>
learn the hard way kinda shits on... well .. EVERYTHING
:loose2when:
Quote from: Gilgamesh. on October 29, 2021, 07:12:19 AM
NSN - the better album song for song
FM - the better album sonically and vocally.
NSN >>>
Quote from: ophliyah on October 29, 2021, 07:53:47 AM
nsn >>>>>>>
learn the hard way kinda shits on... well .. EVERYTHING
:loose2when:
learn the hard way transitioning into Almost doesn't count!
Quote from: The definition on October 29, 2021, 08:13:29 AM
Quote from: ophliyah on October 29, 2021, 07:53:47 AM
nsn >>>>>>>
learn the hard way kinda shits on... well .. EVERYTHING
:loose2when:
learn the hard way transitioning into Almost doesn't count!
:gorlonfire: :gorlonfire: :gorlonfire:
Quote from: The definition on October 29, 2021, 08:13:29 AM
Quote from: ophliyah on October 29, 2021, 07:53:47 AM
nsn >>>>>>>
learn the hard way kinda shits on... well .. EVERYTHING
:loose2when:
learn the hard way transitioning into Almost doesn't count!
One of my favorite transitions
Them strings
That little flame sound effect
:gorlonfire:
IDK this is tough like
WAU, Full Moon, Like This, WYTM, He Is, Nothing, Love Wouldn't are great songs not just great vocals and production. Then you have stuff like Can We and Wow that kind of are filler hmmm
Quote from: RAY7 on October 29, 2021, 09:49:44 AM
IDK this is tough like
WAU, Full Moon, Like This, WYTM, He Is, Nothing, Love Wouldn't are great songs
There's more of this on NSN is what the sentiment is
I hope he leaks the two songs he did for Never Say Never someday
Apparently Alicia Keys & Deborah Cox both almost took "He Is" before Brandy jumped on it... They all heard it the same day and all wanted it... but Brandy wouldn't leave the studio until they wrote the song and she recorded it on the spot. Otherwise it could have been Deborah's or Alicia's
When he didn't get to have his songs on Never Say Never he quit the "Brandy Band" .... he used to be her keyboard player. He didn't want to tour and perform with her if he wasn't even on the album. She made it up to him with He Is on the next album.
YouKnowIGotSoul: Talk to me about the creation behind Brandy "He Is".
Warryn Campbell: That song was created through a chord progression that I had been playing on the piano probably since I was 14 years old. The chord progression the song uses is something that I made up in school. I was in the 9th grade and I was in the piano room playing and I made this little tune up. I would play it from time to time. Fast forward to whenever we wrote the song, I was in the studio and I was like "You know what? I've never used these chord before." I was putting together a beat and I put them down. I recorded them and it sounded really cool, so I started adding layers on top of it. I added rhodes and bass and after a while, I was like "This sounds really amazing!" I remember being at the Record Plant Studio in LA, and for some reason, I had a lot of artists coming through that day to meet with me or hang out with me. I remember Alicia Keys came through the studio. She heard the track and loved it. It wasn't finished yet so I was like "It's something that I'm just fooling around with." Then Deborah Cox came. By the time she got there, the track was finished and I almost gave it to her because she wanted it. She was like "I love that. I want that!" I was like "Let me listen to it a little more then I'll get back to you." When Brandy got there, she loved it so much, so she was like "Let's write it right now and sing it right now!" That's how we came up with that. Me and my writing partner Harold Lilly sat there and wrote the song. She sung it that night and that's what happened. It almost didn't make it to Brandy though.
YouKnowIGotSoul: Talk about your experience working with Brandy.
Warryn Campbell: Brandy is one of my first jobs. I was in Brandy's band after I finished with Death Row records. Actually in the middle of Death Row, Brandy did a tour and I went on tour with her as a keyboard player in her band. On her first album I was with her and we just became really good friends. In the meantime, I started developing as a songwriter and producer. I just missed doing the "Never Say Never" album. I was still in the development phase at that point and I was very young. I really wanted to be on that album. Since I wasn't on the album, I quit her band. *Laughs* I felt like as a songwriter, I was like "You know what? I'm supporting an album that I'm not even on as a songwriter and I want to be a songwriter." I didn't want to be out there playing and being in bands for the rest of my career. I wanted to do other things, so I quit the band. She wasn't at the rehearsal when I quit, so I happened to be at home and at the time I still lived at home with my parents. I saw her car pull up and she was like "Why'd you quit?!" I was like "Brandy, I'm a songwriter now. I can't just be on the road and I don't even have a song on this album. I just don't feel right doing it." We remained friends and she made sure that I was on the next album with "He Is" and the album following that with "Who I Am". We've always been very close. She was at my wedding. It was just a great friendship and still is.
WHO called "Can We" filler?!?!
NSN great songs:
Angel
Put That
Tomorrow
Almost
Learn the Hard Way
Have You Ever
Top of the world
Happy
hmmm
Me
u looking for a slap
Quote from: RAY7 on October 29, 2021, 10:29:18 AM
NSN great songs:
Angel
Put That
Tomorrow
Almost
Learn the Hard Way
Have You Ever
Top of the world
Happy
hmmm
Top of The World?
TBIM?
U Don't Know Me?
Nnnnn
When it comes down to it, what they say about FM being an "artists" album is true af. Id hesitate to play it casually for a general audience. I feel like most of the songs have that "something" that you have to have "ears" for. To be able to almost decipher what they have going on. It sounds like "a lot" to a lot of people, but when u know how/what to pick apart, the marrying of all that "extra" is skillful and beautiful.
Quote from: L0NZ. on October 29, 2021, 10:31:19 AM
Quote from: RAY7 on October 29, 2021, 10:29:18 AM
NSN great songs:
Angel
Put That
Tomorrow
Almost
Learn the Hard Way
Have You Ever
Top of the world
Happy
hmmm
Top of The World?
TBIM?
U Don't Know Me?
Nnnnn
Top is on there and I'll add TBIM
NSN is only better to me lyrically.
FM kinda trumps it sonically, vocally, and production wise.
yh yall are right
if it's up against I thought...
FM and NSN have similar amounts of filler tracks, to me.
But FM just has more good songs in general.
Quote from: Naomi's cheekbones on October 29, 2021, 10:52:56 AM
yh yall are right
if it's up against I thought...
nnnnnn
yeah, if you put cute next to gorgeous, well...
Quote from: Gilgamesh. on October 29, 2021, 07:12:19 AM
I love both dearly but i kinda gree with him.
NSN - the better album song for song
FM - the better album sonically and vocally.
Quote from: Gilgamesh. on October 29, 2021, 07:12:19 AM
I love both dearly but i kinda gree with him.
NSN - the better album song for song
FM - the better album sonically and vocally.
sonically?
FM is a schizophrenic mess. Now vocally it's probably her best
Sonically, NSN hands down is her best album, and possibly a top pop album of all time (in the genre)
Hey hon, didn't ask for your opinion
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Quote from: Gilgamesh. on October 29, 2021, 11:21:01 AM
Hey hon, didn't ask for your opinion
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Dndjdjdjd
I really can't decide. I go back and forth.
NSN is definitely the better album
Full moon has higher highs but also lower lows. Never Say Never is better as a complete album imo... more cohesive.
I prefer Full Moon & especially afrodisiac tho
Quote from: Gilgamesh. on October 29, 2021, 07:12:19 AM
I love both dearly but i kinda gree with him.
NSN - the better album song for song
FM - the better album sonically and vocally.
!!!!!!!!!!
I've always felt this way. Btw, Warryn Campbell >>>>>
Quote from: Nine Fushiguro. on October 29, 2021, 10:48:19 AM
NSN is only better to me lyrically.
FM kinda trumps it sonically, vocally, and production wise.
Quote from: RAY7 on October 29, 2021, 09:49:44 AM
IDK this is tough like
WAU, Full Moon, Like This, WYTM, He Is, Nothing, Love Wouldn't are great songs not just great vocals and production. Then you have stuff like Can We and Wow that kind of are filler hmmm
FILLER???? Do you know the definition of a filler track on an album? No tracks are filler on FM
I think NSN just has easier songs to digest and its a nostalgic album b/c it was so big and Bran was at the top of her game but FM is the better album if we aren't basing it on preference. They both are the pinnacle of her legacy.
Quote from: Andthecategoryis... on October 29, 2021, 02:32:55 PM
I think NSN just has easier songs to digest and its a nostalgic album b/c it was so big and Bran was at the top of her game but FM is the better album if we aren't basing it on preference. They both are the pinnacle of her legacy.
This I agree with.
Quote from: Andthecategoryis... on October 29, 2021, 02:16:30 PM
Quote from: RAY7 on October 29, 2021, 09:49:44 AM
IDK this is tough like
WAU, Full Moon, Like This, WYTM, He Is, Nothing, Love Wouldn't are great songs not just great vocals and production. Then you have stuff like Can We and Wow that kind of are filler hmmm
FILLER???? Do you know the definition of a filler track on an album? No tracks are filler on FM
Can We
Love Wouldn't Count Me Out
Die Without You
Are all unnecessary tbh
Quote from: Kaeli. on October 29, 2021, 03:26:00 PM
Quote from: Andthecategoryis... on October 29, 2021, 02:16:30 PM
Quote from: RAY7 on October 29, 2021, 09:49:44 AM
IDK this is tough like
WAU, Full Moon, Like This, WYTM, He Is, Nothing, Love Wouldn't are great songs not just great vocals and production. Then you have stuff like Can We and Wow that kind of are filler hmmm
FILLER???? Do you know the definition of a filler track on an album? No tracks are filler on FM
Can We
Love Wouldn't Count Me Out
Die Without You
Are all unnecessary tbh
Quote from: Kaeli. on October 29, 2021, 03:26:00 PM
Quote from: Andthecategoryis... on October 29, 2021, 02:16:30 PM
Quote from: RAY7 on October 29, 2021, 09:49:44 AM
IDK this is tough like
WAU, Full Moon, Like This, WYTM, He Is, Nothing, Love Wouldn't are great songs not just great vocals and production. Then you have stuff like Can We and Wow that kind of are filler hmmm
FILLER???? Do you know the definition of a filler track on an album? No tracks are filler on FM
Can We
Love Wouldn't Count Me Out
Die Without You
Are all unnecessary tbh
Girlllllll BYEEEEEEEEE
:kii: :kii: :kii:
But your musical taste is questionable anyway. The way Bran ate tf outta them tracks, I cnt.
Nah, Kae got it right.
I'd add WOW to the list too.
n at "Love Wouldn't Count Me Out"
Quote from: Nine Fushiguro. on October 29, 2021, 08:04:44 PM
Nah, Kae got it right.
I'd add WOW to the list too.
WAIT cuz the end of WOW when she drops the octave and does all those runs over the "so goooood Iiiiiiiii" still gets me to this day.
They both lash me in different ways. She was damn near a child when she recorded NSN and there is an innocence to the sound of the album that I enjoy .. .. so it hits me differently than the more vocally mature Full Moon, where you can hear the growth.The subject matters on Full Moon were so SICK and creative so for that I'm going with Full Moon. Way ahead of it's time.
FM is the better album. PERIOD.
Quote from: DopeSoul. on October 29, 2021, 08:05:47 PM
n at "Love Wouldn't Count Me Out"
!!! That's one of the best songs
The booklet and packaging of Full Moon kinda shuts down the whole convo let alone the music. Whew.
Quote from: RAY7 on October 29, 2021, 08:27:48 PM
Quote from: DopeSoul. on October 29, 2021, 08:05:47 PM
n at "Love Wouldn't Count Me Out"
!!! That's one of the best songs
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Never Say Nev' >>
Ray i just got that change sajnsad;klsadmdsaklmsdads
Leave "Wild Side" outta this
:watchit:
Quote from: Gilgamesh. on October 29, 2021, 11:21:01 AM
Hey hon, didn't ask for your opinion
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:dead:
Quote from: Gilgamesh. on October 29, 2021, 11:21:01 AM
Hey hon, didn't ask for your opinion
(https://i.ibb.co/mv26Z28/sorryu.gif)
BBBBNBBBNbbnnnbbnbvvvvvbVVVVBBBVVVBnn
Quote from: RAY7 on October 29, 2021, 08:27:48 PM
Quote from: DopeSoul. on October 29, 2021, 08:05:47 PM
n at "Love Wouldn't Count Me Out"
!!! That's one of the best songs
Exactly!!!! Should've been a single too
Quote from: Nine Fushiguro. on October 29, 2021, 08:38:59 PM
Quote from: RAY7 on October 29, 2021, 08:27:48 PM
Quote from: DopeSoul. on October 29, 2021, 08:05:47 PM
n at "Love Wouldn't Count Me Out"
!!! That's one of the best songs
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DSFHLKJDS:KFJDS:KLFJDS:FLJDSK:FJ !!!
Like :uhh:
Really nice damn vocal but that's about it :udontlookok:
Anyways the best messes on Full GOD are... damns, there's so many i can't even list the tea out :letsmessfag:
But LWCMO ain't on there
Quote from: Andthecategoryis... on October 29, 2021, 07:57:38 PM
Quote from: Kaeli. on October 29, 2021, 03:26:00 PM
Quote from: Andthecategoryis... on October 29, 2021, 02:16:30 PM
Quote from: RAY7 on October 29, 2021, 09:49:44 AM
IDK this is tough like
WAU, Full Moon, Like This, WYTM, He Is, Nothing, Love Wouldn't are great songs not just great vocals and production. Then you have stuff like Can We and Wow that kind of are filler hmmm
FILLER???? Do you know the definition of a filler track on an album? No tracks are filler on FM
Can We
Love Wouldn't Count Me Out
Die Without You
Are all unnecessary tbh
Girlllllll BYEEEEEEEEE
:kii: :kii: :kii:
But your musical taste is questionable anyway. The way Bran ate tf outta them tracks, I cnt.
d
Don't you need to be somewhere curating another list of terrible ideas for Brandy?
A&R! Sylvia Rhone!Move, Babe.
Unrelated to the original post..but I wanted to share this: I found an interesting article about a woman who listened to Never Say Never while she was going through a very bad depression.
The Relatable Depression of 'Never Say Never'
(https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/images/brandy003-1528396310.jpg)
20 years after its debut, Brandy's sophomore album is still helping me through tough times.
https://www.shondaland.com/live/a21088443/the-relatable-depression-of-never-say-never/
(https://www.shondaland.com/live/a21088443/the-relatable-depression-of-never-say-never/)
:wub:
Never Say Never still means so much to me..so many different vibes and emotions. :stressed: Brandy's music is so healing
Quote from: annie on January 31, 2022, 05:32:07 PM
Unrelated to the original post..but I wanted to share this: I found an interesting article about a woman who listened to Never Say Never while she was going through a very bad depression.
The Relatable Depression of 'Never Say Never'
(https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/images/brandy003-1528396310.jpg)
20 years after its debut, Brandy's sophomore album is still helping me through tough times.
https://www.shondaland.com/live/a21088443/the-relatable-depression-of-never-say-never/
(https://www.shondaland.com/live/a21088443/the-relatable-depression-of-never-say-never/)
:wub:
Never Say Never still means so much to me..so many different vibes and emotions. :stressed: Brandy's music is so healing
Wow this is dope! Definitely worth it's own thread, thanks for sharing this.
FM>>>
NSN was a very somber album now that I think about it. If you take out Happy, TBIM, and TOTW it's as depressing (in a good way) as the My Life album.
Brandy was going through it!!