It was so quiet..too quiet...I thought Brian Warner would recover with Ye's support, but Rolling Stone said 'not so fast'! This is the man 'praying' at Sunday Service:
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Marilyn Manson: The Monster Hiding in Plain SightHe was a provocative media darling for decades. Offstage, exes allege, he was an abuser who made their lives hell. A Rolling Stone investigation based on court documents and
more than 55 new interviewshttps://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/marilyn-manson-abuse-allegations-1256888/
The article is a complete timeline for those who are interested..very very dark & depressing, but in a nutshell :omf:
Marilyn Manson: 10 Key Takeaways From Our Nine-Month InvestigationQuote1. His Pattern of Alleged Mistreatment of Women Predates His Fame
2. His Alleged Sexual Improprieties Date Back to at Least the Early 1990s
3. Rape Has Been a Frequent Source of Dark Humor for Decades
4. Sources Say He Seems to Revel in Saying the N-word
5. He Seems to Have a Bizarre Nazi Fixation
6. He Has Allegedly Verbally and Physically Abused Band Members and Employees
7. He Had a "Bad Girls' Room" Exes Allege He Used for Psychological Torture
8. Warner Allegedly Began Relationships With "Love Bombing"
9. Warner Is Accused of Multiple Sexual Assaults and Physical Abuse
10. The Accusers Met Last Year to Share Their Allegations
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/marilyn-manson-key-takeaways-1257082/
He is currently under investigation for domestic violence incident in 2009-2010. There are no criminal charges yet. There are multiple civil lawsuits but Manson of course denies everything.
Lock him up already :nowgorl:
Ndjdjdj let's see how many pages this gets
I did the investigation myself the last nine months so this better be a success
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It's probably going to be lonely in here
I remember growing up thinking he was literally a demon, and hearing all these rumors about him urinating on his fans and stuff
interesting that he's really a terrible person
I can't believe he's gotten away with it for so long
Has Vonc posted in here yet?
Quote from: Naomi's cheekbones on November 15, 2021, 05:15:39 PM
I can't believe he's gotten away with it for so long
And he keeps getting away with it..because a lot of women have gone through trauma and it's difficult for them to express. It took a long time before these women were brave enough to talk about it. (His stans are very intense, so they get a lot of hate online..very sad) He is a very intimidating person and the women are scared they will get murdered..or for example pets get killed. He is a very bizarre person who probably also has a lot of footage (from women and other celebs drunk or on drugs) that he can use to destroy lives. Hollywood stars have been protecting him and Kanye is not helping either.
Quote from: Naomi's cheekbones on November 15, 2021, 05:15:39 PM
I can't believe he's gotten away with it for so long
he's still rich and white
Good to see u know another color other than BLACK
I'll keep you updated on the white demons. No problem.
Horrible. Lock him up now
He's a sick man. Cancel him.
Does he even still make music
I wonder what rose mcgowan has to say
His label dropped him but apparently he is still recording music. In that big article there's one single line about it and his stans on Reddit were posting it as a separate thread (Rolling Stone article: Manson is working on new music ). Some of these fans completely ignored this book of allegations and posted it like that's all they got from the article. :dead: His fanbase is :omgwatshappening: very optimistic..maybe they are used to scandals? Imagine reading the article and all you think about is 'yay new music!' :dead:
His last release was the song with Kanye
Well his image as an artist was very demonic
not shocked that his fans still wanna support
This FREAK
Quote from: RAY7 on November 15, 2021, 09:40:52 PM
Well his image as an artist was very demonic
not shocked that his fans still wanna support
Some fans feel like they should have known what they signed up for. Or that the abuse was BDSM..they are all gold diggers blah blah.
There is also this narrative that he is actually a very intelligent and sweet man. A man who cares about his fans and loves animals. They believe MM is just a persona and Brian Warner is misunderstood.
It might have to do with the fact that a lot of people who love him have gone through difficult times and his music helped them get out of the darkness.. (there are also women who have been abused themselves who stand up for him. It's really odd to see people claim 'but I know what abuse looks like and this is not it'). It's probably not just a MM thing, people don't want to see their heroes fall from the pedestal.
Quote from: annie on November 16, 2021, 05:51:34 AM
Quote from: RAY7 on November 15, 2021, 09:40:52 PM
Well his image as an artist was very demonic
not shocked that his fans still wanna support
There is also this narrative that he is actually a very intelligent and sweet man. A man who cares about his fans and loves animals. They believe MM is just a persona and Brian Warner is misunderstood.
That's what I thought too. And it's also similar to what Rose described him as in her book.
But I literally haven't listened to his music again since these allegations came out and I don't think I could ever listen the same way. He's pretty much dead to me now.
Vonc got handled in here btw
Quote from: 𝖘𝖖𝖚𝖎𝖉 on November 16, 2021, 06:25:26 AM
Quote from: annie on November 16, 2021, 05:51:34 AM
Quote from: RAY7 on November 15, 2021, 09:40:52 PM
Well his image as an artist was very demonic
not shocked that his fans still wanna support
There is also this narrative that he is actually a very intelligent and sweet man. A man who cares about his fans and loves animals. They believe MM is just a persona and Brian Warner is misunderstood.
That's what I thought too. And it's also similar to what Rose described him as in her book.
But I literally haven't listened to his music again since these allegations came out and I don't think I could ever listen the same way. He's pretty much dead to me now.
It makes me wonder if he treated Rose and Dita von Teese in a different way. Because Dita for example admits he had problems with drugs but she never said anything about abuse. Maybe because she has a big career she was some sort of muse that was treated differently (or she just doesn't want to talk about it). But all of the other girls he dated afterwards all started dressing the same way and the same makeup as Dita. Past girlfriends said they had to change hair colors, wear pencil skirts, the pale face, red lip.
who tf is he
rose & this iconic look are the only reasons i know him
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Quote from: הוא כל כך טרייל (he so trill) on November 16, 2021, 08:08:28 AM
who tf is he
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Run Lana run
I remember this cover from back in the day.
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This is one of his most popular songs
[youtube] https://youtube.com/watch?v=dbhjEDH4pIk
Bfnfnfnfnfnfnfnf a weird white ho it seems
Quote from: הוא כל כך טרייל (he so trill) on November 16, 2021, 08:35:25 AM
Bfnfnfnfnfnfnfnf a weird white ho it seems
In the 90s he was such a popular rock artist. He was controversial, he was called the anti-christ. He hated Christianity and he made some very dark music videos and songs. There were very creepy urban myths: about him removing ribs to suck his own d. A mystery video called 'groupie' that was never released because it was pure abuse.
There's a Reddit page where multiple people shared he would SA young girls or push them to have sex with him or his friends on his tourbus.
He was blamed for the Columbine massacre. Many believed his music and imagery were the reason for the murders. A lot of conservative Christian mothers were scared to death their children would listen to this man.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marilyn_Manson–Columbine_High_School_massacre_controversy (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marilyn_Manson%E2%80%93Columbine_High_School_massacre_controversy)
I don't know about the USA but in Europe he is still very well known. Not for new music but as a 90s icon. And for Rolling Stone to make this article and also admit they promoted him (basically enabled bad behavior) is a big deal.
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Eminem as MM
In a way in hiphop Eminem was treated like MM..people/parents were scared of him especially early in his career. Em was trolling a lot, he had dark lyrics, controversy & shock. But at least Em had some humor.
People were shocked by the Devil shoes Lil Nas X created but compared to MM he is Disney.