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Title: Funky Dineva, Claudia J. & Al Reynolds discuss Kim K and cultural appropriation
Post by: b7 on December 16, 2021, 02:25:00 AM
Of course Funky's color struck self had the most ignorant take of them all  :ermm: :-/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3L2DZdYodM&ab_channel=FOXSoul


Al gave a quick shout out to Brandy later on into the clip, maybe 6-7 minutes in
Title: Re: Funky Dineva, Claudia J. & Al Reynolds discuss Kim K and cultural appropriation
Post by: The Only BLACK Kalmyks on December 16, 2021, 02:38:30 AM
If someone's not black they have no room to say mess like "braids don't belong to black people"

And khloe with those afro textured wigs and extra extra bronzer. These girls know exactly what they're doing . They wanna be exotical .

Really no way around it.

Imma watch in a bit but I'm already cringing at what funky has to say in this one. I'm convinced some of these people have no black women in their family at all . Completely disconnected


Title: Re: Funky Dineva, Claudia J. & Al Reynolds discuss Kim K and cultural appropriation
Post by: b7 on December 16, 2021, 02:43:48 AM
Quote from: Lady of Lithuania on December 16, 2021, 02:38:30 AM
If someone's not black they have no room to say mess like "braids don't belong to black people"

And khloe with those afro textured wigs and extra extra bronzer. These girls know exactly what they're doing . They wanna be exotical .

Really no way around it.

Imma watch in a bit but I'm already cringing at what funky has to say in this one. I'm convinced some of these people have no black women in their family at all . Completely disconnected
!!! You're gonna be DISGUSTED when u watch the full clip and they're already handing him his ass in the comments, as they should.  :dead:  Just gross

And this smirk on his face toward the end as he says "Give them white women back their hair"  :blink:  is he insane?



These youtube comment lashings:

QuoteDineva we can't give them back what they don't have. Lol
Most of them don't have hair that color either, but nobody ever says anything. Only a small subset of their population can produce that blonde hair, the rest is brashy, dull and thin. But it is ok if they weave it up right?
Dineva if black women need to focus then gay men should focus. When black women use YASS and other slang don't be mad- like y'all always are. Love to claim we stole from y'all but we must back down on our owning what is ours that is being stolen.
And those 10 white girls in Georgia with a big booty ( from their great great black grandfather)is a small subset as well- so you can't use that.
If you gonna align things, align them right.
🥰🥰smooches😘😘

:kii:
Title: Re: Funky Dineva, Claudia J. & Al Reynolds discuss Kim K and cultural appropriation
Post by: The Only BLACK Kalmyks on December 16, 2021, 02:56:03 AM
Quote from: Somebody's RIG on December 16, 2021, 02:43:48 AM
Quote from: Lady of Lithuania on December 16, 2021, 02:38:30 AM
If someone's not black they have no room to say mess like "braids don't belong to black people"

And khloe with those afro textured wigs and extra extra bronzer. These girls know exactly what they're doing . They wanna be exotical .

Really no way around it.

Imma watch in a bit but I'm already cringing at what funky has to say in this one. I'm convinced some of these people have no black women in their family at all . Completely disconnected
!!! You're gonna be DISGUSTED when u watch the full clip and they're already handing him his ass in the comments, as they should.  :dead:  Just gross

And this smirk on his face toward the end as he says "Give them white women back their hair"  :blink:  is he insane?



These youtube comment lashings:

QuoteDineva we can't give them back what they don't have. Lol
Most of them don't have hair that color either, but nobody ever says anything. Only a small subset of their population can produce that blonde hair, the rest is brashy, dull and thin. But it is ok if they weave it up right?
Dineva if black women need to focus then gay men should focus. When black women use YASS and other slang don't be mad- like y'all always are. Love to claim we stole from y'all but we must back down on our owning what is ours that is being stolen.
And those 10 white girls in Georgia with a big booty ( from their great great black grandfather)is a small subset as well- so you can't use that.
If you gonna align things, align them right.
🥰🥰smooches😘😘

:kii:
bbbbbbbbb :omf:

Watching Now

yes al. Shut it down . "Can't agree with funky. They're smart. They know what they're doing."

Basically. How hard is that to comprehend? :disgusted: as "woke" as funky tries to present himself he can't seem to hide his anti blackness and pure ignorance whenever black women are at the center of a discussion.

It's like he can't help it . He HAS to find a way to minimize and dismiss their plight . And Its really fuckin disgusting

All that time spent imitating black women and knows nothing about them. He musta slid out of an Armenian coochie at birth.




Title: Re: Funky Dineva, Claudia J. & Al Reynolds discuss Kim K and cultural appropriation
Post by: Gilgamesh. on December 16, 2021, 03:03:32 AM
I'm a big of FD but his take on Black women always seems to come from a judgmental place.
Title: Re: Funky Dineva, Claudia J. & Al Reynolds discuss Kim K and cultural appropriation
Post by: b7 on December 16, 2021, 03:04:17 AM
Quote from: Lady of Lithuania on December 16, 2021, 02:56:03 AM
Quote from: Somebody's RIG on December 16, 2021, 02:43:48 AM
Quote from: Lady of Lithuania on December 16, 2021, 02:38:30 AM
If someone's not black they have no room to say mess like "braids don't belong to black people"

And khloe with those afro textured wigs and extra extra bronzer. These girls know exactly what they're doing . They wanna be exotical .

Really no way around it.

Imma watch in a bit but I'm already cringing at what funky has to say in this one. I'm convinced some of these people have no black women in their family at all . Completely disconnected
!!! You're gonna be DISGUSTED when u watch the full clip and they're already handing him his ass in the comments, as they should.  :dead:  Just gross

And this smirk on his face toward the end as he says "Give them white women back their hair"  :blink:  is he insane?



These youtube comment lashings:

QuoteDineva we can't give them back what they don't have. Lol
Most of them don't have hair that color either, but nobody ever says anything. Only a small subset of their population can produce that blonde hair, the rest is brashy, dull and thin. But it is ok if they weave it up right?
Dineva if black women need to focus then gay men should focus. When black women use YASS and other slang don't be mad- like y'all always are. Love to claim we stole from y'all but we must back down on our owning what is ours that is being stolen.
And those 10 white girls in Georgia with a big booty ( from their great great black grandfather)is a small subset as well- so you can't use that.
If you gonna align things, align them right.
🥰🥰smooches😘😘

:kii:
bbbbbbbbb :omf:

Watching Now

yes al. Shut it down . "Can't agree with funky. They're smart. They know what they're doing."

Basically. How hard is that to comprehend? :disgusted: as "woke" as funky tries to present himself he can't seem to hide his anti blackness and pure ignorance whenever black women are at the center of a discussion.

It's like he can't help it . He HAS to find a way to minimize and dismiss their plight . And Its really fuckin disgusting

All that time spent imitating black women and knows nothing about them. He musta slid out of an Armenian coochie at birth.
dssdsdsds DRAG it.  I really don't understand what the fuck the problem is  :unsure:  Gotta be some trauma from childhood with a Black Woman involved because this level of vitriol hidden under the guise of being curious and inquisitive is so transparent and embarrassing. 

"just wanna know what ya'll want! Lemme know"

n

We want you to crack open a book instead of a bottle of Whiskey hun
Title: Re: Funky Dineva, Claudia J. & Al Reynolds discuss Kim K and cultural appropriation
Post by: b7 on December 16, 2021, 03:05:23 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh. on December 16, 2021, 03:03:32 AM
I'm a big of FD but his take on Black women always seems to come from a judgmental place.
!!!! I enjoy a lot of his videos and watch this show quite a bit but this is where he consistently loses me. Pure ignorance and willful ignorance at this point
Title: Re: Funky Dineva, Claudia J. & Al Reynolds discuss Kim K and cultural appropriation
Post by: The Only BLACK Kalmyks on December 16, 2021, 03:10:10 AM
Hdjfnfnfndndndn @ Claudia

" on her appropriating our culture....umm, she does ."

Straight to the got damn point.

Funky wtf is the PROBLEM

(https://c.tenor.com/Aa2T4pPtuggAAAAC/whats-not-clicking-point.gif)
Title: Re: Funky Dineva, Claudia J. & Al Reynolds discuss Kim K and cultural appropriation
Post by: The Only BLACK Kalmyks on December 16, 2021, 03:20:18 AM
Quote from: Somebody's RIG on December 16, 2021, 03:04:17 AM
Quote from: Lady of Lithuania on December 16, 2021, 02:56:03 AM
Quote from: Somebody's RIG on December 16, 2021, 02:43:48 AM
Quote from: Lady of Lithuania on December 16, 2021, 02:38:30 AM
If someone's not black they have no room to say mess like "braids don't belong to black people"

And khloe with those afro textured wigs and extra extra bronzer. These girls know exactly what they're doing . They wanna be exotical .

Really no way around it.

Imma watch in a bit but I'm already cringing at what funky has to say in this one. I'm convinced some of these people have no black women in their family at all . Completely disconnected
!!! You're gonna be DISGUSTED when u watch the full clip and they're already handing him his ass in the comments, as they should.  :dead:  Just gross

And this smirk on his face toward the end as he says "Give them white women back their hair"  :blink:  is he insane?



These youtube comment lashings:

QuoteDineva we can't give them back what they don't have. Lol
Most of them don't have hair that color either, but nobody ever says anything. Only a small subset of their population can produce that blonde hair, the rest is brashy, dull and thin. But it is ok if they weave it up right?
Dineva if black women need to focus then gay men should focus. When black women use YASS and other slang don't be mad- like y'all always are. Love to claim we stole from y'all but we must back down on our owning what is ours that is being stolen.
And those 10 white girls in Georgia with a big booty ( from their great great black grandfather)is a small subset as well- so you can't use that.
If you gonna align things, align them right.
🥰🥰smooches😘😘

:kii:
bbbbbbbbb :omf:

Watching Now

yes al. Shut it down . "Can't agree with funky. They're smart. They know what they're doing."

Basically. How hard is that to comprehend? :disgusted: as "woke" as funky tries to present himself he can't seem to hide his anti blackness and pure ignorance whenever black women are at the center of a discussion.

It's like he can't help it . He HAS to find a way to minimize and dismiss their plight . And Its really fuckin disgusting

All that time spent imitating black women and knows nothing about them. He musta slid out of an Armenian coochie at birth.
dssdsdsds DRAG it.  I really don't understand what the fuck the problem is  :unsure:  Gotta be some trauma from childhood with a Black Woman involved because this level of vitriol hidden under the guise of being curious and inquisitive is so transparent and embarrassing. 

"just wanna know what ya'll want! Lemme know"

n

We want you to crack open a book instead of a bottle of Whiskey hun
that's crossed my mind too...I honestly would like to know what the relationship is like between he and the women in his family.

It's like every time black women come up he's ready and willing to go against the grain with them.

But then again you have a lot of black people who are connected with their family and still think and talk like this. Hell, the women in his family could think and talk like this themselves.

Title: Re: Funky Dineva, Claudia J. & Al Reynolds discuss Kim K and cultural appropriation
Post by: Nine on December 16, 2021, 10:15:30 AM
Yeah I'm really finding Funky Danigga more and more annoying lately.

He has some internalized anti-blackness for sure. What he said about OG basically revealed that to me.
Title: Re: Funky Dineva, Claudia J. & Al Reynolds discuss Kim K and cultural appropriation
Post by: Plastic. on December 16, 2021, 10:20:46 AM
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Title: Re: Funky Dineva, Claudia J. & Al Reynolds discuss Kim K and cultural appropriation
Post by: United Nations Barbie 🇺🇳 on December 16, 2021, 10:36:27 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh. on December 16, 2021, 03:03:32 AM
I'm a big of FD but his take on Black women always seems to come from a judgmental place.
Which is so strange bc he's so intelligent..
Title: Re: Funky Dineva, Claudia J. & Al Reynolds discuss Kim K and cultural appropriation
Post by: The Only BLACK Kalmyks on December 16, 2021, 10:44:30 AM
Quote from: plastic on December 16, 2021, 10:20:46 AM
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nfnfnfnnfnffnnfnfngnnfmmfmg

Is that how they do it in Armenia

"Armenians braid hair too!"

Kim is a mess. She knows damn well her mother father or none of her grandparents were sitting there braiding her hair

Fnnfnfnfnfnfn
Title: Re: Funky Dineva, Claudia J. & Al Reynolds discuss Kim K and cultural appropriation
Post by: Andthecategoryis... on December 16, 2021, 01:40:30 PM
I get his point though...what do y'all want??
The same people who complain are the same ones giving them attention and praising them for everything else.
Kim can wear braids if she wants to wear braids...I really dnt see the big deal.

I do think the family as a whole does want to look like black women and be in the culture etc but at this point between the white media and blacks always giving them attention and babies...what can we do at this point.
Move on.
Title: Re: Funky Dineva, Claudia J. & Al Reynolds discuss Kim K and cultural appropriation
Post by: L0NZ. on December 16, 2021, 01:53:55 PM
Quote from: Somebody's RIG on December 16, 2021, 02:25:00 AM
Of course Funky's color struck self had the most ignorant take of them all  :ermm: :-/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3L2DZdYodM&ab_channel=FOXSoul


Al gave a quick shout out to Brandy later on into the clip, maybe 6-7 minutes in

I must be as ignorant as he because I agree with him lol



Edit: wait wait I agree with the FIRST part. I didn't realize he said more later in the clip let me watch
Title: Re: Funky Dineva, Claudia J. & Al Reynolds discuss Kim K and cultural appropriation
Post by: The Only BLACK Kalmyks on December 16, 2021, 02:26:35 PM
Quote from: Andthecategoryis... on December 16, 2021, 01:40:30 PM
The same people who complain are the same ones giving them attention and praising them for everything else.
I highly doubt that.

And Kim sees the problem in what she's accused of doing which is why she tries to excuse it.

The issue is that blackfishing is a not-so-distant cousin of blackface.

Quote from: Andthecategoryis... on December 16, 2021, 01:40:30 PM
I get his point though...what do y'all want??
what can we do at this point.
Move on.
Other minority groups are fiercely protective over many aspects of their culture . If anything I'd say that historically, black people have been more than generous and welcoming when it comes to the cookout.... but newer generations are saying hell nah this is ours. We're drawing a line and holding those who cross the line accountable.

And  those who do express that have every right to do so. They don't need to be hushed.





Title: Re: Funky Dineva, Claudia J. & Al Reynolds discuss Kim K and cultural appropriation
Post by: L0NZ. on December 16, 2021, 02:40:34 PM
If a regular regular White girl walked up in a convenient store and reaches into the door to grab her a Spritebut she has braids, we are offended and she's appropriating? I dont know guys it gotta be room for levels of this. Are we mad at Kim because she's rich and beautiful and influential and on a level high enough that outsiders admire her while she's in her braids? Cuz if Sarah pulled up next to me and she has braids I'm like.... Ok.... She likes braids and Black culture. And that's ok to me :uhh:
Title: Re: Funky Dineva, Claudia J. & Al Reynolds discuss Kim K and cultural appropriation
Post by: L0NZ. on December 16, 2021, 02:43:12 PM
I think we're mad at the public response not the girls themselves wearing their braids. And the latter is only an issue when the girl is famous and admired enough to garner a positive response in the media while Black women in those same spaces in the media are vilified. And that's what Funky was saying about being mad a the media. 
Title: Re: Funky Dineva, Claudia J. & Al Reynolds discuss Kim K and cultural appropriation
Post by: The Only BLACK Kalmyks on December 16, 2021, 02:45:30 PM
Quote from: L0NZ. on December 16, 2021, 02:40:34 PM
If a regular regular White girl walked up in a convenient store and reaches into the door to grab her a Spritebut she has braids, we are offended and she's appropriating? I dont know guys it gotta be room for levels of this. Are we mad at Kim because she's rich and beautiful and influential and on a level high enough that outsiders admire her while she's in her braids? Cuz if Sarah pulled up next to me and she has braids I'm like.... Ok.... She likes braids and Black culture. And that's ok to me :uhh:
it's not about everyone in the community having to be offended ... and if they're not offended somethings wrong with them

It's totally ok to not be outraged

But just be reasonable to understand why others find it offensive to any degree. That's all. It's not super hard
Title: Re: Funky Dineva, Claudia J. & Al Reynolds discuss Kim K and cultural appropriation
Post by: The Only BLACK Kalmyks on December 16, 2021, 02:48:27 PM
I'm not personally super offended by non-African American (non-white) people saying nigga .  But I'd advise them that you WILL run across a black person who takes issue with it .

Like Sis I understand u from the same place I am and ur 4th great grandma was part black or whatever but if it doesn't register in ur appearance to the black person who hears u saying it, brace urself for a lashing.

Nfnfnfnf and don't say I didn't warn u. We still cool tho
Title: Re: Funky Dineva, Claudia J. & Al Reynolds discuss Kim K and cultural appropriation
Post by: RAY7 on December 16, 2021, 02:54:36 PM
Kim and her family are specifically the ones being criticized. Like Claudia said it's like being used as a tool for their success on purpose, and it's more than just her braids. The fake body, the botox lips etc.
Title: Re: Funky Dineva, Claudia J. & Al Reynolds discuss Kim K and cultural appropriation
Post by: The Only BLACK Kalmyks on December 16, 2021, 02:59:58 PM
All funky had to say is "EYE don't see an issue with it personally. Here's why."

which he would totally be entitled to.

but as usual he took an opportunity to roll his neck at black women trying to tell them how to feel and what should and shouldn't matter to THEM.

He's NOT entitled to that.
Title: Re: Funky Dineva, Claudia J. & Al Reynolds discuss Kim K and cultural appropriation
Post by: L0NZ. on December 16, 2021, 03:14:34 PM
Quote from: Lady of Lithuania on December 16, 2021, 02:59:58 PM
All funky had to say is "EYE don't see an issue with it personally. Here's why."

which he would totally be entitled to.

but as usual he took an opportunity to roll his neck at black women trying to tell them how to feel and what should and shouldn't matter to THEM.

He's NOT entitled to that.

Right, even though I really don't understand why myself, I guess I can respect that some people do find it offensive.
Title: Re: Funky Dineva, Claudia J. & Al Reynolds discuss Kim K and cultural appropriation
Post by: The Only BLACK Kalmyks on December 16, 2021, 03:19:24 PM
Quote from: L0NZ. on December 16, 2021, 03:14:34 PM
Quote from: Lady of Lithuania on December 16, 2021, 02:59:58 PM
All funky had to say is "EYE don't see an issue with it personally. Here's why."

which he would totally be entitled to.

but as usual he took an opportunity to roll his neck at black women trying to tell them how to feel and what should and shouldn't matter to THEM.

He's NOT entitled to that.

Right, even though I really don't understand why myself, I guess I can respect that some people do find it offensive.
period pooh 🤷🏾
Title: Re: Funky Dineva, Claudia J. & Al Reynolds discuss Kim K and cultural appropriation
Post by: L0NZ. on December 16, 2021, 03:20:50 PM
Question. So in the way that 4 White people in Armenia used to get their hair braided, and 4 Black people in Australia have naturally blonde hair........ is (insert female singer with blonde hair here) wearing it to appeal to a broader/different audience the same as Kim wearing braids to appeal to a certain audience? 
Title: Re: Funky Dineva, Claudia J. & Al Reynolds discuss Kim K and cultural appropriation
Post by: Dr Naomi Campbell on December 16, 2021, 03:26:01 PM
Quote from: L0NZ. on December 16, 2021, 03:20:50 PM
Question. So in the way that 4 White people in Armenia used to get their hair braided, and 4 Black people in Australia have naturally blonde hair........ is (insert female singer with blonde hair here) wearing it to appeal to a broader/different audience the same as Kim wearing braids to appeal to a certain audience?
I dunno
Beyoncé with blonde hair seems more like a brand/artistic/marketing thing to me more than an attempt to appeal to white people it's kinda synonymous with her.
It sets her apart from other black female singers and it's instantly recognisable.
You think black woman with blonde hair? Beyoncé.
That dyke cut or red curly hair? Rihanna
Swoop over the eye? Aaliyah
Middle part, jet black weave? Naomi
Braids? Brandy
Title: Re: Funky Dineva, Claudia J. & Al Reynolds discuss Kim K and cultural appropriation
Post by: L0NZ. on December 16, 2021, 03:28:46 PM
Quote from: Naomi's cheekbones on December 16, 2021, 03:26:01 PM
Quote from: L0NZ. on December 16, 2021, 03:20:50 PM
Question. So in the way that 4 White people in Armenia used to get their hair braided, and 4 Black people in Australia have naturally blonde hair........ is (insert female singer with blonde hair here) wearing it to appeal to a broader/different audience the same as Kim wearing braids to appeal to a certain audience?
I dunno
Beyoncé with blonde hair seems more like a brand/artistic/marketing thing to me more than an attempt to appeal to white people it's kinda synonymous with her.

To me that's a yes bro. She wouldn't be where she is if she didn't appeal to White people.
Title: Re: Funky Dineva, Claudia J. & Al Reynolds discuss Kim K and cultural appropriation
Post by: The Only BLACK Kalmyks on December 16, 2021, 03:28:54 PM
It's not the same.

A white woman with blond hair and blue eyes is seen as the standard of beauty in America. If anything non-white people who try to emulate that look ... for many of them it's more than just "appealing to a wider audience" ... it's literally tryna even out the playing field as much as they can .

Trying to find some level of fairness.

In many cases it's also, unfortunately , buying into the idea that those looks are "better" or more beautiful. Often times, these women are VICTIMS whether they know it or not.

It'll never be the same as a white woman saying she wants to be Laquesha for the weekend . It goes WAY deeper than just a fun aesthetic.
Title: Re: Funky Dineva, Claudia J. & Al Reynolds discuss Kim K and cultural appropriation
Post by: L0NZ. on December 16, 2021, 03:34:01 PM
Quote from: Lady of Lithuania on December 16, 2021, 03:28:54 PM
It's not the same.

A white woman with blond hair and blue eyes is seen as the standard of beauty in America.

Then why would anyone blackfish?

Are people like Kim actually helping to level that same playing field you spoke of? Blurring the lines a bit, you know, flipping the script real ally-ish?

Title: Re: Funky Dineva, Claudia J. & Al Reynolds discuss Kim K and cultural appropriation
Post by: L0NZ. on December 16, 2021, 03:40:12 PM
Quote from: Lady of Lithuania on December 16, 2021, 03:28:54 PM

In many cases it's also, unfortunately , buying into the idea that those looks are "better" or more beautiful. Often times, these women are VICTIMS whether they know it or not.

It'll never be the same as a white woman saying she wants to be Laquesha for the weekend . It goes WAY deeper than just a fun aesthetic.

I also weighed this, and wanted to go deeper in one of my posts but I'm working and on mobile so ain got time for that, but the appropriation vs. assimilation angle
Title: Re: Funky Dineva, Claudia J. & Al Reynolds discuss Kim K and cultural appropriation
Post by: Dr Naomi Campbell on December 16, 2021, 03:40:22 PM
Quote from: L0NZ. on December 16, 2021, 03:34:01 PM
Quote from: Lady of Lithuania on December 16, 2021, 03:28:54 PM
It's not the same.

A white woman with blond hair and blue eyes is seen as the standard of beauty in America.

Then why would anyone blackfish?

Are people like Kim actually helping to level that same playing field you spoke of? Blurring the lines a bit, you know, flipping the script real ally-ish?
I think the issue is people like Kim can move in and out of black spaces and profit, then by Monday morning she can still benefit from
her white privilege, she's getting the best of both worlds.
Why does she get praise she donning black features and trends, when black women are looked down on for the exact same things she gets magazine covers for? whereas black women can't move in and out of white spaces like that.
When white women get bored of their own beauty standards, out come the bronzers, tanners, crimped weaves, braids, full lips etc. They get to and can  look "trendy for the season" when for black women their features, fashions, bodies, hairstyles etc aren't trends.
Title: Re: Funky Dineva, Claudia J. & Al Reynolds discuss Kim K and cultural appropriation
Post by: L0NZ. on December 16, 2021, 03:44:52 PM
Quote from: Naomi's cheekbones on December 16, 2021, 03:40:22 PM
Quote from: L0NZ. on December 16, 2021, 03:34:01 PM
Quote from: Lady of Lithuania on December 16, 2021, 03:28:54 PM
It's not the same.

A white woman with blond hair and blue eyes is seen as the standard of beauty in America.

Then why would anyone blackfish?

Are people like Kim actually helping to level that same playing field you spoke of? Blurring the lines a bit, you know, flipping the script real ally-ish?
I think the issue is people like Kim can move in and out of black spaces and profit, then by Monday morning she can still benefit from
her white privilege, she's getting the best of both worlds.
Why does she get praise she donning black features and trends, when black women are looked down on for the exact same things she gets magazine covers for? whereas black women can't move in and out of white spaces like that.
When white women get bored of their own beauty standards, out come the bronzers, tanners, crimped weaves, braids, full lips etc. They get to and can  look "trendy for the season" when for black women their features, fashions, bodies, hairstyles etc aren't trends.

Agreed! That's what I was saying here.

QuoteI think we're mad at the public response not the girls themselves wearing their braids. And the latter is only an issue when the girl is famous and admired enough to garner a positive response in the media while Black women in those same spaces in the media are vilified. And that's what Funky was saying about being mad a the media.

To me, again, I feel like it's a thing we're only bothered by celebrities who do it. Or anyone who can "profit" from it, or be praised in some fashion like you mentioned. Because I really can't see Jamal being offended by Kyle in some busted ass dreadlocks (white dreads be lookin bad can't lie) I feel like in common people land it's like "ok, emulate us then!" Because Kyle is gonnna get looked at sideways in the job interview the same as Jamal tbh.

Title: Re: Funky Dineva, Claudia J. & Al Reynolds discuss Kim K and cultural appropriation
Post by: The Only BLACK Kalmyks on December 16, 2021, 03:56:35 PM
Quote from: L0NZ. on December 16, 2021, 03:34:01 PM
Quote from: Lady of Lithuania on December 16, 2021, 03:28:54 PM
It's not the same.

A white woman with blond hair and blue eyes is seen as the standard of beauty in America.

Then why would anyone blackfish?

Are people like Kim actually helping to level that same playing field you spoke of? Blurring the lines a bit, you know, flipping the script real ally-ish?
I meant that blond hair and blue eyes is "a" Standard or beauty in America.

Its kinda arguable whether it's "THEE" standard in 2021 ... especially among certain populations

And a lot of these non black women are "mixed-fishing" in reality . Creating a look of being more "exotic " and cashing in on a trend of mixed and racially ambiguous people being more popular and visible in the media these days.

Make no mistake . Most  of these women are not trying to look unambiguously black. They want that midpoint look ... of black mixed with something else.

Here's the issue. Kim is not Black. At all. Her momma ain't black, daddy ain't black... grandma grandpa .. no one . U can climb up her family tree for generations and not one negro will appear. Fnnfnfnfnf and it's evident in her appearance . She's just armenian. Dassit.

So for her , and her sister khloe as non black women ... to sit around and play dress up as women of black descent . It's just not their place to do it

And for women who are of actual black/African descent ...whether they're mixed or not .. who've experienced the brunt of stereotyping and unfair labeling for wearing the same styles that were created by their community...

It's a slap in the face . Kim , and women like her, hop IN and OUT of blackness as they see fit. They'll get black for one occasion and strut their Armenian stuff for the next. For those who can't do that....I hope you can see why it's offensive.
Title: Re: Funky Dineva, Claudia J. & Al Reynolds discuss Kim K and cultural appropriation
Post by: Kalifornia. on December 16, 2021, 03:56:44 PM
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Title: Re: Funky Dineva, Claudia J. & Al Reynolds discuss Kim K and cultural appropriation
Post by: Dr Naomi Campbell on December 16, 2021, 04:00:04 PM
Quote from: L0NZ. on December 16, 2021, 03:44:52 PM
Quote from: Naomi's cheekbones on December 16, 2021, 03:40:22 PM
Quote from: L0NZ. on December 16, 2021, 03:34:01 PM
Quote from: Lady of Lithuania on December 16, 2021, 03:28:54 PM
It's not the same.

A white woman with blond hair and blue eyes is seen as the standard of beauty in America.

Then why would anyone blackfish?

Are people like Kim actually helping to level that same playing field you spoke of? Blurring the lines a bit, you know, flipping the script real ally-ish?
I think the issue is people like Kim can move in and out of black spaces and profit, then by Monday morning she can still benefit from
her white privilege, she's getting the best of both worlds.
Why does she get praise she donning black features and trends, when black women are looked down on for the exact same things she gets magazine covers for? whereas black women can't move in and out of white spaces like that.
When white women get bored of their own beauty standards, out come the bronzers, tanners, crimped weaves, braids, full lips etc. They get to and can  look "trendy for the season" when for black women their features, fashions, bodies, hairstyles etc aren't trends.

Agreed! That's what I was saying here.

QuoteI think we're mad at the public response not the girls themselves wearing their braids. And the latter is only an issue when the girl is famous and admired enough to garner a positive response in the media while Black women in those same spaces in the media are vilified. And that's what Funky was saying about being mad a the media.

To me, again, I feel like it's a thing we're only bothered by celebrities who do it. Or anyone who can "profit" from it, or be praised in some fashion like you mentioned. Because I really can't see Jamal being offended by Kyle in some busted ass dreadlocks (white dreads be lookin bad can't lie) I feel like in common people land it's like "ok, emulate us then!" Because Kyle is gonnna get looked at sideways in the job interview the same as Jamal tbh.
dndndndj
I dunno I think Jamal look at Billy sideways and go about his business, it's when Billy starts talking about it being fashion choice and starts being ignorant about it is when Jamal would get mad about it.
Title: Re: Funky Dineva, Claudia J. & Al Reynolds discuss Kim K and cultural appropriation
Post by: Kaeli. on December 16, 2021, 04:05:05 PM
Quote from: plastic on December 16, 2021, 10:20:46 AM
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I know THESE ain't the braids people are pissed about :udontlookok:

Crackers have historically worn these. Now if It's a cornrow mess or something then yea i see the frustration.

Lemme just watch the mess
Title: Re: Funky Dineva, Claudia J. & Al Reynolds discuss Kim K and cultural appropriation
Post by: The Only BLACK Kalmyks on December 16, 2021, 04:08:18 PM
And khloe with her kinky-curly and afro wigs. :omf:

People just have eyes and common sense.

Not some random unwarranted vendetta against the kardashians lol

theyre super famous so of course whatever they do will garner attention and criticism from those who take issue.
cant throw on a kinky curly wig in front of 15 million people and not expect 1 or 2 to have an issue with it. people are gonna speak up.




Title: Re: Funky Dineva, Claudia J. & Al Reynolds discuss Kim K and cultural appropriation
Post by: RAY7 on December 16, 2021, 04:08:29 PM
Quote from: L0NZ. on December 16, 2021, 03:20:50 PM
Question. So in the way that 4 White people in Armenia used to get their hair braided, and 4 Black people in Australia have naturally blonde hair........ is (insert female singer with blonde hair here) wearing it to appeal to a broader/different audience the same as Kim wearing braids to appeal to a certain audience?
who Faith? Mary? Whitney?
Title: Re: Funky Dineva, Claudia J. & Al Reynolds discuss Kim K and cultural appropriation
Post by: Dr Naomi Campbell on December 16, 2021, 04:11:40 PM
Like when I see crackers with durags trying to get waves jdjddjdj
I'm not waving my BLM flag going on marches but I will chuckle and give a ch
Title: Re: Funky Dineva, Claudia J. & Al Reynolds discuss Kim K and cultural appropriation
Post by: RAY7 on December 16, 2021, 04:14:52 PM
Martin Lawrence did actually get into a fight with the white dude with dreads on set of House Party 2
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Title: Re: Funky Dineva, Claudia J. & Al Reynolds discuss Kim K and cultural appropriation
Post by: GYNandTONIC on December 16, 2021, 04:23:49 PM
I get it that some ppl may not find her antics offensive.

However, nothing is more irritating then when ppl suggest you be quiet or blind to the obvious. If Kim wanna cosplay in black girl aesthetics, fine. If people want to point it out and have conversations about it, fine. Sometimes people want to vent and bring social awareness, and nothing is wrong with that. 

There is a history and pattern. It's not a one off. She know how woke sistas feel and it hasn't changed her. Black men straight and gay have coddled her along the way. 
Title: Re: Funky Dineva, Claudia J. & Al Reynolds discuss Kim K and cultural appropriation
Post by: The Only BLACK Kalmyks on December 16, 2021, 05:44:23 PM
Quote from: L0NZ. on December 16, 2021, 03:40:12 PM
Quote from: Lady of Lithuania on December 16, 2021, 03:28:54 PM

In many cases it's also, unfortunately , buying into the idea that those looks are "better" or more beautiful. Often times, these women are VICTIMS whether they know it or not.

It'll never be the same as a white woman saying she wants to be Laquesha for the weekend . It goes WAY deeper than just a fun aesthetic.

I also weighed this, and wanted to go deeper in one of my posts but I'm working and on mobile so ain got time for that, but the appropriation vs. assimilation angle
right.

Such a big difference.

Not to be underestimated. I know for a fact that entire family identities can buried under the rug and lost just cuz assimilation and survival is or was clearly a top priority . It's powerful and obviously sad.


Title: Re: Funky Dineva, Claudia J. & Al Reynolds discuss Kim K and cultural appropriation
Post by: Freemala Harris on December 16, 2021, 06:05:34 PM
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Title: Re: Funky Dineva, Claudia J. & Al Reynolds discuss Kim K and cultural appropriation
Post by: Buy The Stars✨ on December 16, 2021, 06:16:07 PM
Quote from: Freemala Harris on December 16, 2021, 06:05:34 PM
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taraji looks good here!
Title: Re: Funky Dineva, Claudia J. & Al Reynolds discuss Kim K and cultural appropriation
Post by: The Only BLACK Kalmyks on December 16, 2021, 06:23:24 PM
Quote from: GYNandTONIC on December 16, 2021, 04:23:49 PM
I get it that some ppl may not find her antics offensive.

However, nothing is more irritating then when ppl suggest you be quiet or blind to the obvious. If Kim wanna cosplay in black girl aesthetics, fine. If people want to point it out and have conversations about it, fine. Sometimes people want to vent and bring social awareness, and nothing is wrong with that.

There is a history and pattern. It's not a one off. She know how woke sistas feel and it hasn't changed her. Black men straight and gay have coddled her along the way.
perfectly stated

we don't  all have to think the same way.

if one black person is not offended there's really no sense in trying to force them to be offended by something.
to me that's kinda unintentionally anti-black in itself....tryna tell them how they should feel simply cuz they're Black.
......especially when it includes derogatory insults and name calling

same goes for those who are offended by blackfishing. u cant tell them that what they feel is wrong. their perception is their reality of the situation and if the concern is at least somewhat reasonable ...let them do them.

part of having love for each other is being able to have conversations without dismissing one another/each other's feelings and concerns so quickly

once we start dismissing one another  and telling each other to STFU that's when things get very nasty...very quickly.






Title: Re: Funky Dineva, Claudia J. & Al Reynolds discuss Kim K and cultural appropriation
Post by: L0NZ. on December 16, 2021, 06:33:00 PM
Quote from: Lady of Lithuania on December 16, 2021, 06:23:24 PM
Quote from: GYNandTONIC on December 16, 2021, 04:23:49 PM
I get it that some ppl may not find her antics offensive.

However, nothing is more irritating then when ppl suggest you be quiet or blind to the obvious. If Kim wanna cosplay in black girl aesthetics, fine. If people want to point it out and have conversations about it, fine. Sometimes people want to vent and bring social awareness, and nothing is wrong with that.

There is a history and pattern. It's not a one off. She know how woke sistas feel and it hasn't changed her. Black men straight and gay have coddled her along the way.

once we start dismissing one another  and telling each other to STFU that's when things get very nasty...very quickly.

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Title: Re: Funky Dineva, Claudia J. & Al Reynolds discuss Kim K and cultural appropriation
Post by: The Only BLACK Kalmyks on December 16, 2021, 06:34:13 PM
Quote from: L0NZ. on December 16, 2021, 06:33:00 PM
Quote from: Lady of Lithuania on December 16, 2021, 06:23:24 PM
Quote from: GYNandTONIC on December 16, 2021, 04:23:49 PM
I get it that some ppl may not find her antics offensive.

However, nothing is more irritating then when ppl suggest you be quiet or blind to the obvious. If Kim wanna cosplay in black girl aesthetics, fine. If people want to point it out and have conversations about it, fine. Sometimes people want to vent and bring social awareness, and nothing is wrong with that.

There is a history and pattern. It's not a one off. She know how woke sistas feel and it hasn't changed her. Black men straight and gay have coddled her along the way.

once we start dismissing one another  and telling each other to STFU that's when things get very nasty...very quickly.

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Title: Re: Funky Dineva, Claudia J. & Al Reynolds discuss Kim K and cultural appropriation
Post by: b7 on December 16, 2021, 06:57:52 PM
Quote from: Lady of Lithuania on December 16, 2021, 03:10:10 AM
Hdjfnfnfndndndn @ Claudia

" on her appropriating our culture....umm, she does ."

Straight to the got damn point.

Funky wtf is the PROBLEM

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Title: Re: Funky Dineva, Claudia J. & Al Reynolds discuss Kim K and cultural appropriation
Post by: Marilyn on December 16, 2021, 07:13:36 PM
I'm sorry but I'm fucking screaming at him pointing out that they always Google them same 10 people from that one tribe who have natural blonde hair
Title: Re: Funky Dineva, Claudia J. & Al Reynolds discuss Kim K and cultural appropriation
Post by: b7 on December 16, 2021, 07:16:53 PM
Quote from: Nine Fushiguro. on December 16, 2021, 10:15:30 AM
Yeah I'm really finding Funky Danigga more and more annoying lately.

He has some internalized anti-blackness for sure. What he said about OG basically revealed that to me.
I forgot about his OG hot takes. Super nasty 🤢 and i wish she never would have went back to the Basketball wives for another season of that shit cuz they manipulated her into some mess and made her look exactly the way they wanted to from the start
Title: Re: Funky Dineva, Claudia J. & Al Reynolds discuss Kim K and cultural appropriation
Post by: b7 on December 16, 2021, 07:17:47 PM
Quote from: Lady of Lithuania on December 16, 2021, 10:44:30 AM
Quote from: plastic on December 16, 2021, 10:20:46 AM
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Is that how they do it in Armenia

"Armenians braid hair too!"

Kim is a mess. She knows damn well her mother father or none of her grandparents were sitting there braiding her hair

Fnnfnfnfnfnfn
bxxnxhnxncncncnc between that and blaming her daughter .... n

she couldn't wait to have some Black kids huh
Title: Re: Funky Dineva, Claudia J. & Al Reynolds discuss Kim K and cultural appropriation
Post by: The Only BLACK Kalmyks on December 16, 2021, 07:30:32 PM
Quote from: Marilyn on December 16, 2021, 07:13:36 PM
I'm sorry but I'm fucking screaming at him pointing out that they always Google them same 10 people from that one tribe who have natural blonde hair
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i know exactly which pics ur talking about to. those lil kids smiling  :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:

now that is def a mess. they know damn well.

or when the gorls bring up other groups of africans as representations of the african-american phenotype as if our ancestors weren't pulled from west africa.

i think Nigerians look the most like African-Americans. :blush: :wub:
i see people from my neighborhood, family, church, all up in this picture. sfsfsfsfs

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Title: Re: Funky Dineva, Claudia J. & Al Reynolds discuss Kim K and cultural appropriation
Post by: b7 on December 16, 2021, 09:09:45 PM
Quote from: Lady of Lithuania on December 16, 2021, 02:45:30 PM
Quote from: L0NZ. on December 16, 2021, 02:40:34 PM
If a regular regular White girl walked up in a convenient store and reaches into the door to grab her a Spritebut she has braids, we are offended and she's appropriating? I dont know guys it gotta be room for levels of this. Are we mad at Kim because she's rich and beautiful and influential and on a level high enough that outsiders admire her while she's in her braids? Cuz if Sarah pulled up next to me and she has braids I'm like.... Ok.... She likes braids and Black culture. And that's ok to me :uhh:
it's not about everyone in the community having to be offended ... and if they're not offended somethings wrong with them

It's totally ok to not be outraged

But just be reasonable to understand why others find it offensive to any degree. That's all. It's not super hard
!!!! im certainly not outraged. I think anyone outside of Black Women look pretty stupid but it doesn't anger me. But im protective over Black women and i can see why many of them don't use all the way around. Funky is ignorant as shit about a lot of things, not necessarily just this topic.
Title: Re: Funky Dineva, Claudia J. & Al Reynolds discuss Kim K and cultural appropriation
Post by: b7 on December 16, 2021, 09:10:49 PM
Quote from: RAY7 on December 16, 2021, 02:54:36 PM
Kim and her family are specifically the ones being criticized. Like Claudia said it's like being used as a tool for their success on purpose, and it's more than just her braids. The fake body, the botox lips etc.
Even more insulting for many when they act oblivious to this fact and that's really what Claudia was speaking to. Kim be LYING  :kii: "North said"!
Title: Re: Funky Dineva, Claudia J. & Al Reynolds discuss Kim K and cultural appropriation
Post by: b7 on December 16, 2021, 09:12:43 PM
Quote from: Lady of Lithuania on December 16, 2021, 02:59:58 PM
All funky had to say is "EYE don't see an issue with it personally. Here's why."

which he would totally be entitled to.

but as usual he took an opportunity to roll his neck at black women trying to tell them how to feel and what should and shouldn't matter to THEM.

He's NOT entitled to that.
"Give white women their hair back" was said twice. Fucking gross  :x no Black woman in her right mind has ever wanted that.  If they're rocking inches from anywhere in the world, it likely came from another country but certainly not anything to do with some white shit

Brazil, India, Peru, etc.

:sup:
Title: Re: Funky Dineva, Claudia J. & Al Reynolds discuss Kim K and cultural appropriation
Post by: b7 on December 16, 2021, 09:14:27 PM
Quote from: Naomi's cheekbones on December 16, 2021, 03:26:01 PM
Quote from: L0NZ. on December 16, 2021, 03:20:50 PM
Question. So in the way that 4 White people in Armenia used to get their hair braided, and 4 Black people in Australia have naturally blonde hair........ is (insert female singer with blonde hair here) wearing it to appeal to a broader/different audience the same as Kim wearing braids to appeal to a certain audience?
I dunno
Beyoncé with blonde hair seems more like a brand/artistic/marketing thing to me more than an attempt to appeal to white people it's kinda synonymous with her.
It sets her apart from other black female singers and it's instantly recognisable.
You think black woman with blonde hair? Beyoncé.
That dyke cut or red curly hair? Rihanna
Swoop over the eye? Aaliyah
Middle part, jet black weave? Naomi
Braids? Brandy
Yeeees

Whites don't have culture outside of hotdogs and the fourth of July
Title: Re: Funky Dineva, Claudia J. & Al Reynolds discuss Kim K and cultural appropriation
Post by: The Only BLACK Kalmyks on December 16, 2021, 09:29:02 PM
Quote from: Somebody's RIG on December 16, 2021, 09:12:43 PM
Quote from: Lady of Lithuania on December 16, 2021, 02:59:58 PM
All funky had to say is "EYE don't see an issue with it personally. Here's why."

which he would totally be entitled to.

but as usual he took an opportunity to roll his neck at black women trying to tell them how to feel and what should and shouldn't matter to THEM.

He's NOT entitled to that.
"Give white women their hair back" was said twice. Fucking gross  :x no Black woman in her right mind has ever wanted that.  If they're rocking inches from anywhere in the world, it likely came from another country but certainly not anything to do with some white shit

Brazil, India, Peru, etc.

:sup:
yeah most black women aren't on the hunt for blond bundles.

not to say its "better" to be in search of other types of bundles but yeah.

like jayden said fas stands out with it and that's a big reason why.