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wow that was in poor taste..
I cringed throughout the whole video.
no he fucking didn't :uhh:
What the hell do ebonics have to do with not recognizing black excellence in film?
That was so tacky.
No ma'am. This wasn't cute nor funny.
This was disgusting. I didn't find this funny at all. White people really are trying it. I mean they've been trying it but they getting real edgy. I don't watch his show but it needs to be boycotted against. No black person should ever visit his show ever.
Done with him. Never found him funny anyway.
NOT "The Revenant AL Sharpton" :dead:
:uhh:
I wasn't offended by this
I actually chuckled a lil
Quote from: Gilgamesh. on January 22, 2016, 03:43:36 PM
What the hell do ebonics have to do with not recognizing black excellence in film?
That was so tacky.
!!!!!!
:uhh:
it's degrading IMO
this isn't about language and slang
this is about performance and acknowledging minority actors
who are in films that do not represent the slang or ebonics that is joke/skit was demonstrating
the fuck
I am so disgusted
I cringed. fjjjjjjjj Wtf. :uhh:
Another backfire for the late dyke lolz
and I'm sorry, but Snoop Dogg is not helping either with his way of speaking out, even tho i love him
only reinforces ignorant minds
and the comments are fucking insane. This is why I can't get with that whole "not every white people feels" mess. It's always what about Asians/Wetbacks etc. They didn't have the history that African Americans have had here in the US so when I see people say that it makes my blood boil.
Quote from: imaan. on January 22, 2016, 04:06:06 PM
I cringed. fjjjjjjjj Wtf. :uhh:
Another backfire for the late dyke lolz
Go watch child porn with robert and stay out my threads weird obese bitch. :supluv:
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gen' is steamed
d
What's your obsession with mentioning child porn? Weird late dyke. I'm calling the feds.
Quote from: H??R J?RD∆Ń on January 22, 2016, 04:06:31 PM
and the comments are fucking insane. This is why I can't get with that whole "not every white people feels" mess. It's always what about Asians/Wetbacks etc. They didn't have the history that African Americans have had here in the US so when I see people say that it makes my blood boil.
I think it's dangerous to think any one group of people are one way.
For any race.
Judge by character. Plz.
I will say that the majority of white people are ignorant to these issues, though.
rrrrrrrrrrrrrrds
it makes me cringe when i hear you guys say "white this, white that" "black this, black that".
there's so much racial reference on this forum.
when it really should be about character and intent.
Quote from: H??R J?RD∆Ń on January 22, 2016, 04:06:31 PM
and the comments are fucking insane. This is why I can't get with that whole "not every white people feels" mess. It's always what about Asians/Wetbacks etc. They didn't have the history that African Americans have had here in the US so when I see people say that it makes my blood boil.
v
I get their point of view though. It does come off as niggas are being whiny about this whole thing. I don't get the outrage tbqfh.
Quote from: imaan. on January 22, 2016, 04:10:00 PM
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What's Rob's obsession with child porn?
Ask him yourself sootie
Quote from: imaan. on January 22, 2016, 04:10:38 PM
Quote from: Saturn. on January 22, 2016, 04:09:30 PM
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gen' is steamed
!!! 24/7. Just pressed and ugly.
You came into my thread though baboon shaped hoe.
Crying to him wont change anything :plzstop:
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This black thing is so late :plzstop: Kill it with fire.
:uhh:
Sick of these genalogic mutation ass white devils
This wasn't funny
This was crossing a bit of a line IMO. Jimmy has to be smarter than that :uhh:
Quote from: Gilgamesh. on January 22, 2016, 03:43:36 PM
What the hell do ebonics have to do with not recognizing black excellence in film?
That was so tacky.
!!! Are u fucking kidding me
Even the crowd didn't use
n
These courtesy cackles and awkward, scattered laughter
Quote from: imaan. on January 22, 2016, 04:16:14 PM
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This black thing is so late :plzstop: Kill it with fire.
Nothing blacker than the rings around your neck and eyes sootie
Now just admit you defend rapists and ill let go of that nappy ass brillo pad
so now do yall think a full out on war to exterminate em is a good idea
kept tellin yall
Quote from: Genesis on January 22, 2016, 04:23:48 PM
Quote from: imaan. on January 22, 2016, 04:16:14 PM
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This black thing is so late :plzstop: Kill it with fire.
Nothing blacker than the rings around your neck and eyes sootie
Now just admit you defend rapists and ill let go of that nappy ass brillo pad
this is so off topic
Can u do this somewhere else
omg
Wow. My jaw dropped by the time they changed 'room' to 'crib'
wtff
oh no
this is like a bad madTV spoof
Quote from: RIG on January 22, 2016, 04:25:50 PM
Quote from: Genesis on January 22, 2016, 04:23:48 PM
Quote from: imaan. on January 22, 2016, 04:16:14 PM
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This black thing is so late :plzstop: Kill it with fire.
Nothing blacker than the rings around your neck and eyes sootie
Now just admit you defend rapists and ill let go of that nappy ass brillo pad
this is so off topic
Can u do this somewhere else
Rig please with that bias ass shit.
You always down my neck but never say shit to the ones that start with me
If you wanna play hero apply that shit to everybody.
Quote from: RIG on January 22, 2016, 04:25:50 PM
Quote from: Genesis on January 22, 2016, 04:23:48 PM
Quote from: imaan. on January 22, 2016, 04:16:14 PM
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This black thing is so late :plzstop: Kill it with fire.
Nothing blacker than the rings around your neck and eyes sootie
Now just admit you defend rapists and ill let go of that nappy ass brillo pad
this is so off topic
Can u do this somewhere else
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'dasdasdad
lash her!
I quickly clicked to Twitter, to ask him what the fuck relevancy ebonics has to what's going on, and I see this
QuoteI do care.Was trying to poke fun at the film industry, not those it excludes.For offending those I intended to defend, I am sorry.
I read a little more, and see someone say, "I can see why, but I think it's more of a dig @ how Hollywood views the role of black people in films."
And I kinda get it.
But yea, poor taste.
Quote from: RIG on January 22, 2016, 04:25:50 PM
Quote from: Genesis on January 22, 2016, 04:23:48 PM
Quote from: imaan. on January 22, 2016, 04:16:14 PM
d
This black thing is so late :plzstop: Kill it with fire.
Nothing blacker than the rings around your neck and eyes sootie
Now just admit you defend rapists and ill let go of that nappy ass brillo pad
this is so off topic
Can u do this somewhere else
sdddddddddddddddd
the backfire has me in FITS! :kii:
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I kinda like it :dead:
Quote from: Vonc2002 on January 22, 2016, 04:35:00 PM
f
I kinda like it :dead:
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I'm sorry but The Revenant Al Sharpton>>>
Quote from: imaan. on January 22, 2016, 04:33:23 PM
Quote from: RIG on January 22, 2016, 04:25:50 PM
Quote from: Genesis on January 22, 2016, 04:23:48 PM
Quote from: imaan. on January 22, 2016, 04:16:14 PM
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This black thing is so late :plzstop: Kill it with fire.
Nothing blacker than the rings around your neck and eyes sootie
Now just admit you defend rapists and ill let go of that nappy ass brillo pad
this is so off topic
Can u do this somewhere else
sdddddddddddddddd
the backfire has me in FITS! :kii:
"Save me Rig please!"
Cause he damn sure wont say shit to anybody else. Maybe he gon ban me again without breaking any rules. We"ll see.
Quote from: Vonc2002 on January 22, 2016, 04:35:00 PM
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I kinda like it :dead:
Betweeen this and the "All Africans look the same" mess. I just...
ddddddddds
Quote from: Gilgamesh. on January 22, 2016, 04:47:53 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on January 22, 2016, 04:35:00 PM
f
I kinda like it :dead:
Betweeen this and the "All Africans look the same" mess. I just...
:kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii:
Quote from: inluvwitbran on January 22, 2016, 04:40:13 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on January 22, 2016, 04:35:00 PM
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I kinda like it :dead:
n
I'm sorry but The Revenant Al Sharpton>>>
ssssssssssssssssssssss
Ray, we better fckn hide
Quote from: Gilgamesh. on January 22, 2016, 04:47:53 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on January 22, 2016, 04:35:00 PM
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I kinda like it :dead:
Betweeen this and the "All Africans look the same" mess. I just...
I was thinking the same.
:dead:
Disgusting
I'm over this Oscar mess already. Hollyweird is regressing a bit, but the whole idea of demanding to be rewarded for something (whether a grammy or oscar) just seems desperate to me. Take pride in your work and keep satisfying the people who appreciate it.
Quote from: ANIMMAI on January 22, 2016, 05:02:44 PM
I'm over this Oscar mess already. Hollyweird is regressing a bit, but the whole idea of demanding to be rewarded for something (whether a grammy or oscar) just seems desperate to me. Take pride in your work and keep satisfying the people who appreciate it.
pretty much
You guys do not see the bigger picture. Oscars write history. They are what will remain.
When people look back at cinematic accomplishments of human kind, they will see nothing but white people which will further cement and perpetuate the notion of white supremacy for the future.
Quote from: Rajesha on January 22, 2016, 05:05:48 PM
You guys do not see the bigger picture. Oscars write history. They are what will remain.
When people look back at cinematic accomplishments of human kind, they will see nothing but white people which will further cement and perpetuate the notion of white supremacy for the future.
!
Quote from: Rajesha on January 22, 2016, 05:05:48 PM
You guys do not see the bigger picture. Oscars write history. They are what will remain.
When people look back at cinematic accomplishments of human kind, they will see nothing but white people which will further cement and perpetuate the notion of white supremacy for the future.
am mean, you'll be presented as "Academy award winner _______ " for the rest of your career and that sounds really cute but most people can't name who won for any of the major categories in any specific year. :dead:
and like Viola said, the issue isn't the awards...it's the studios and overwhelmingly Caucasian folks behind the scenes that need to be examined.
Quote from: ANIMMAI on January 22, 2016, 05:02:44 PM
I'm over this Oscar mess already. Hollyweird is regressing a bit, but the whole idea of demanding to be rewarded for something (whether a grammy or oscar) just seems desperate to me. Take pride in your work and keep satisfying the people who appreciate it.
I don't see how anyone is demanding anything
they are just boycotting it until it changes or forever
we need more shondas and mara brocks getting their projects greenlit and less hashtags and social media trends :hmph:
Quote from: Rajesha on January 22, 2016, 05:05:48 PM
You guys do not see the bigger picture. Oscars write history. They are what will remain.
When people look back at cinematic accomplishments of human kind, they will see nothing but white people which will further cement and perpetuate the notion of white supremacy for the future.
Wait Malc'!
Quote from: ANIMMAI on January 22, 2016, 05:09:55 PM
Quote from: Rajesha on January 22, 2016, 05:05:48 PM
You guys do not see the bigger picture. Oscars write history. They are what will remain.
When people look back at cinematic accomplishments of human kind, they will see nothing but white people which will further cement and perpetuate the notion of white supremacy for the future.
am mean, you'll be presented as "Academy award winner _______ " for the rest of your career and that sounds really cute but most people can't name who won for any of the major categories in any specific year. :dead:
and like Viola said, the issue isn't the awards...it's the studios and overwhelmingly Caucasian folks behind the scenes that need to be examined.
Yumz, I don't know shit about science or scientific people or who invented what, so what I will do is go down all the Noble prize winners, as the starting point of my research. You want to know what good R&B of the 80's was like many people are going to start with the Grammys. And believe me lots of old 40's movies would be forgotten by now had it not been for the Oscar they won. Any Oscar winner will forever be remembered, as the institution as of now has outlived any actor. This has political magnitude. Oscars will be covered in books about Human culture etc.
Either you devalue the Oscar by taking its credibility and giving it a bias/racist reputation or you make sure you get included because in a 100 years people will have forgotten Gabrielle Union, but probably still remember Halle Berry or hell Jennifer Hudson. Because the Oscar will still be around. I only know Hattie McDaniels cause she won.
The hashtags and social media trends are making a difference. People like throw out alternatives of what "we should be doing" but aren't themselves assisting in making a difference.
Quote from: H??R J?RD∆Ń on January 22, 2016, 05:15:18 PM
The hashtags and social media trends are making a difference. People like throw out alternatives of what "we should be doing" but aren't themselves assisting in making a difference.
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No it's not.
The problem is Hollywood not hiring black actors in movies and creating for them. The academy can only do so much. There needs to more roles (oscar bait roles) and people willing to hire black actors for huge money making franchises and stuff.
Yes they are
I mean the #oscarssowhite hashtag really got a lot of attention
Quote from: imaan. on January 22, 2016, 05:16:29 PM
Quote from: H??R J?RD∆Ń on January 22, 2016, 05:15:18 PM
The hashtags and social media trends are making a difference. People like throw out alternatives of what "we should be doing" but aren't themselves assisting in making a difference.
d
No it's not.
Are you kidding me :uhh: we wouldn't be having this discussion if it wasn't for individuals on Social media bringing up the fact that there were no black people nominated at all
OH, PLEASE! What'll be remembered :dead:
The actors, singers, performers, etc we regard as great are not even awarded performers. Halle Barry was the first black women to win an academy award for a leading role, Diana Ross doesnt even have a grammy. You do the work because u love it. If ur waiting around to be validated thats on u. Screaming about white men and white supremacy but waiting around for that same white man to tell u good job nigger :dead:
If ur so concerned about great black performers why not look to who we award and hold an NAACP award in such high regard.
Trying to preach about black history and using a white man's award in the process, please.
Quote from: Rajesha on January 22, 2016, 05:15:05 PM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on January 22, 2016, 05:09:55 PM
Quote from: Rajesha on January 22, 2016, 05:05:48 PM
You guys do not see the bigger picture. Oscars write history. They are what will remain.
When people look back at cinematic accomplishments of human kind, they will see nothing but white people which will further cement and perpetuate the notion of white supremacy for the future.
am mean, you'll be presented as "Academy award winner _______ " for the rest of your career and that sounds really cute but most people can't name who won for any of the major categories in any specific year. :dead:
and like Viola said, the issue isn't the awards...it's the studios and overwhelmingly Caucasian folks behind the scenes that need to be examined.
Yumz, I don't know shit about science or scientific people or who invented what, so what I will do is go down all the Noble prize winners, as the starting point of my research. You want to know what good R&B of the 80's was like many people are going to start with the Grammys. And believe me lots of old 40's movies would be forgotten by had it not been for the Oscar. Any Oscar winner will forever be remembered, as the institution as of now has outlived any actor. This has political magnitude. Oscars will be covered in books about Human culture etc.
Either you devalue the Oscar by taking its credibility and giving it a bias/racist reputation or you make sure you get included because in a 100 years people will have forgotten Gabrielle Union, but probably still remember Halle Berry or hell Jennifer Hudson. Because the Oscar will still be around. I only know Hattie McDaniels cause she won.
well, of course you remember Hattie and Halle because they were historic wins. I just don't see the need for validation from awards or a pat on the back from a committee of white people.
Sorry :dead:
Quote from: inluvwitbran on January 22, 2016, 05:18:44 PM
Yes they are
I mean the #oscarssowhite hashtag really got a lot of attention
Right. She's fucking insane.
I mean Black Lives Matter started as a damn hashtag and look what it's become now.
Quote from: H??R J?RD∆Ń on January 22, 2016, 05:18:45 PM
Quote from: imaan. on January 22, 2016, 05:16:29 PM
Quote from: H??R J?RD∆Ń on January 22, 2016, 05:15:18 PM
The hashtags and social media trends are making a difference. People like throw out alternatives of what "we should be doing" but aren't themselves assisting in making a difference.
d
No it's not.
Are you kidding me :uhh: we wouldn't be having this discussion if it wasn't for individuals on Social media bringing up the fact that there were no black people nominated at all
Discussions and moaning isn't making a difference. This parody is proof. They're laughing.
(https://media.giphy.com/media/l2JI5BUnWrvl4yBvq/giphy.gif)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKzts7O0z30
Let's cut to the chase. Funke Akindele deserved an Oscar nod for this. This performance :ohwow:
Quote from: ANIMMAI on January 22, 2016, 05:19:29 PM
Quote from: Rajesha on January 22, 2016, 05:15:05 PM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on January 22, 2016, 05:09:55 PM
Quote from: Rajesha on January 22, 2016, 05:05:48 PM
You guys do not see the bigger picture. Oscars write history. They are what will remain.
When people look back at cinematic accomplishments of human kind, they will see nothing but white people which will further cement and perpetuate the notion of white supremacy for the future.
am mean, you'll be presented as "Academy award winner _______ " for the rest of your career and that sounds really cute but most people can't name who won for any of the major categories in any specific year. :dead:
and like Viola said, the issue isn't the awards...it's the studios and overwhelmingly Caucasian folks behind the scenes that need to be examined.
Yumz, I don't know shit about science or scientific people or who invented what, so what I will do is go down all the Noble prize winners, as the starting point of my research. You want to know what good R&B of the 80's was like many people are going to start with the Grammys. And believe me lots of old 40's movies would be forgotten by had it not been for the Oscar. Any Oscar winner will forever be remembered, as the institution as of now has outlived any actor. This has political magnitude. Oscars will be covered in books about Human culture etc.
Either you devalue the Oscar by taking its credibility and giving it a bias/racist reputation or you make sure you get included because in a 100 years people will have forgotten Gabrielle Union, but probably still remember Halle Berry or hell Jennifer Hudson. Because the Oscar will still be around. I only know Hattie McDaniels cause she won.
well, of course you remember Hattie and Halle because they were historic wins. I just don't see the need for validation from awards or a pat on the back from a committee of white people.
Sorry :dead:
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Quote from: Vonc2002 on January 22, 2016, 05:18:48 PM
OH, PLEASE! What'll be remembered :dead:
The actors, singers, performers, etc we regard as great are not even awarded performers. Halle Barry was the first black women to win an academy award for a leading role, Diana Ross doesnt even have a grammy. You do the work because u love it. If ur waiting around to be validated thats on u. Screaming about white men and white supremacy but waiting around for that same white man to tell u good job nigger :dead:
If ur so concerned about great black performers why not look to who we award and hold an NAACP award in such high regard.
Trying to preach about black history and using a white man's award in the process, please.
We're >>>><<<<<
This is how I feel too.
Quote from: Jonovan on January 22, 2016, 05:17:26 PM
The problem is Hollywood not hiring black actors in movies and creating for them. The academy can only do so much. There needs to more roles (oscar bait roles) and people willing to hire black actors for huge money making franchises and stuff.
Right, the Oscars are a small piece of a larger picture and protesting over not being nominated isn't the only thing you should be doing to get more stories told.
Quote from: Vonc2002 on January 22, 2016, 05:18:48 PM
OH, PLEASE! What'll be remembered :dead:
The actors, singers, performers, etc we regard as great are not even awarded performers. Halle Barry was the first black women to win an academy award for a leading role, Diana Ross doesnt even have a grammy. You do the work because u love it. If ur waiting around to be validated thats on u. Screaming about white men and white supremacy but waiting around for that same white man to tell u good job nigger :dead:
If ur so concerned about great black performers why not look to who we award and hold an NAACP award in such high regard.
Trying to preach about black history and using a white man's award in the process, please.
I never said I seek white validation.
Either you destroy the Oscar's reputation or you make sure you are part of it.
But if you keep it this way, white people will have tons of heroes to look up too and blacks will look like flops in the future.
Quote from: imaan. on January 22, 2016, 05:20:13 PM
Quote from: H??R J?RD∆Ń on January 22, 2016, 05:18:45 PM
Quote from: imaan. on January 22, 2016, 05:16:29 PM
Quote from: H??R J?RD∆Ń on January 22, 2016, 05:15:18 PM
The hashtags and social media trends are making a difference. People like throw out alternatives of what "we should be doing" but aren't themselves assisting in making a difference.
d
No it's not.
Are you kidding me :uhh: we wouldn't be having this discussion if it wasn't for individuals on Social media bringing up the fact that there were no black people nominated at all
Discussions and moaning isn't making a difference. This parody is proof. They're laughing.
(https://media.giphy.com/media/l2JI5BUnWrvl4yBvq/giphy.gif)
Okay girl.
You really need to pick a stance and stick to it. All this back and forth shit is late.
Quote from: ANIMMAI on January 22, 2016, 05:21:41 PM
Quote from: Jonovan on January 22, 2016, 05:17:26 PM
The problem is Hollywood not hiring black actors in movies and creating for them. The academy can only do so much. There needs to more roles (oscar bait roles) and people willing to hire black actors for huge money making franchises and stuff.
Right, the Oscars are a small piece of a larger picture and protesting over not being nominated isn't the only thing you should be doing to get more stories told.
thats true but it is a start
why criticize it? That's so counterproductive
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/09/magazine/the-misadventures-of-issa-rae.html?_r=0
This article perfectly sums up Hollywood's issue with diversity and it doesn't really have shit to do with who the academy is giving awards to :kii:
Screaming about white men and white supremacy but waiting around for that same white man to tell u good job nigger :dead:
If ur so concerned about great black performers why not look to who we award and hold an NAACP award in such high regard.
Trying to preach about black history and using a white man's award in the process, please.
This perfect response :kii:
I like that the Oscars now have a slightly bad ring to their name. It takes away from their credibility. Because as of now, if you like it or not, they make up the most prestigious and esteemed Award for theatrical excellence in the world.
It is an important matter. Just like who wins Olympic Gold and who discovers the moon or who built the pyramids.
We need our own writers and studios and our own platforms.
All these awards were created for whites by whites, we always cackle and devalue our own accomplishments and platforms for the whities.
Quote from: H??R J?RD∆Ń on January 22, 2016, 05:23:09 PM
Quote from: imaan. on January 22, 2016, 05:20:13 PM
Quote from: H??R J?RD∆Ń on January 22, 2016, 05:18:45 PM
Quote from: imaan. on January 22, 2016, 05:16:29 PM
Quote from: H??R J?RD∆Ń on January 22, 2016, 05:15:18 PM
The hashtags and social media trends are making a difference. People like throw out alternatives of what "we should be doing" but aren't themselves assisting in making a difference.
d
No it's not.
Are you kidding me :uhh: we wouldn't be having this discussion if it wasn't for individuals on Social media bringing up the fact that there were no black people nominated at all
Discussions and moaning isn't making a difference. This parody is proof. They're laughing.
(https://media.giphy.com/media/l2JI5BUnWrvl4yBvq/giphy.gif)
Okay girl.
You really need to pick a stance and stick to it. All this back and forth shit is late.
I've BEEN saying this Oscars outrage is stupid so wtf are you talking about :uhh:
There's no back and forth shit.
Niggers look stupid rn bitching about the Oscars.
Quote from: Vonc2002 on January 22, 2016, 05:18:48 PM
OH, PLEASE! What'll be remembered :dead:
The actors, singers, performers, etc we regard as great are not even awarded performers. Halle Barry was the first black women to win an academy award for a leading role, Diana Ross doesnt even have a grammy. You do the work because u love it. If ur waiting around to be validated thats on u. Screaming about white men and white supremacy but waiting around for that same white man to tell u good job nigger :dead:
If ur so concerned about great black performers why not look to who we award and hold an NAACP award in such high regard.
Trying to preach about black history and using a white man's award in the process, please.
(http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view/845130/damn-damn-damn-o.gif)(http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view/845130/damn-damn-damn-o.gif)
(http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view/845130/damn-damn-damn-o.gif)(http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view/845130/damn-damn-damn-o.gif)
Quote from: Genesis on January 22, 2016, 04:28:26 PM
Quote from: RIG on January 22, 2016, 04:25:50 PM
Quote from: Genesis on January 22, 2016, 04:23:48 PM
Quote from: imaan. on January 22, 2016, 04:16:14 PM
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This black thing is so late :plzstop: Kill it with fire.
Nothing blacker than the rings around your neck and eyes sootie
Now just admit you defend rapists and ill let go of that nappy ass brillo pad
this is so off topic
Can u do this somewhere else
Rig please with that bias ass shit.
You always down my neck but never say shit to the ones that start with me
If you wanna play hero apply that shit to everybody.
i quoted you, but that was for everyone
I know Bsource is kinda known for thread derailment but it can kinda be annoying in certain threads. You don't have to engage with iman every time
Quote from: inluvwitbran on January 22, 2016, 05:23:35 PM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on January 22, 2016, 05:21:41 PM
Quote from: Jonovan on January 22, 2016, 05:17:26 PM
The problem is Hollywood not hiring black actors in movies and creating for them. The academy can only do so much. There needs to more roles (oscar bait roles) and people willing to hire black actors for huge money making franchises and stuff.
Right, the Oscars are a small piece of a larger picture and protesting over not being nominated isn't the only thing you should be doing to get more stories told.
thats true but it is a start
why criticize it? That's so counterproductive
I'm not trying to begrudge anything (even though that seems like it), I just think it's tacky in general when someone complains over not being rewarded. Like, where do you get the nerve :dead:
I feel the same way when artists get on twitter and complain over not being nominated for a Grammy.
Quote from: imaan. on January 22, 2016, 05:24:24 PM
Screaming about white men and white supremacy but waiting around for that same white man to tell u good job nigger :dead:
If ur so concerned about great black performers why not look to who we award and hold an NAACP award in such high regard.
Trying to preach about black history and using a white man's award in the process, please.
This perfect response :kii:
As of now the Oscar does not have the sub-category "white", so the argument fails. You would have to paint the Oscars with a brush, that makes the general public acknowledge it as a white for white niche Award, that would be a great step, to further the acknowledgement of black acting and film making.
Quote from: L0NZ. on January 22, 2016, 04:30:24 PM
I quickly clicked to Twitter, to ask him what the fuck relevancy ebonics has to what's going on, and I see this
QuoteI do care.Was trying to poke fun at the film industry, not those it excludes.For offending those I intended to defend, I am sorry.
I read a little more, and see someone say, "I can see why, but I think it's more of a dig @ how Hollywood views the role of black people in films."
And I kinda get it.
But yea, poor taste.
interesting. But still, not worth it. He could have even prefaced the jokes with that thought process, and the jokes would have come off a lot differently
The fact that he didn't, tells me that this is just damage control.
It's gonna be interesting the next time a "Jennifer Hudson acts better than Beyonce because she has an Oscar" thread pops up
Quote from: Rajesha on January 22, 2016, 05:22:42 PM
But if you keep it this way, white people will have tons of heroes to look up too and blacks will look like flops in the future.
...because they weren't given an award? That sounds kind of superficial.
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Quote from: ANIMMAI on January 22, 2016, 05:27:47 PM
Quote from: Rajesha on January 22, 2016, 05:22:42 PM
But if you keep it this way, white people will have tons of heroes to look up too and blacks will look like flops in the future.
...because they weren't given an award? That sounds kind of superficial.
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!!
Quote from: inluvwitbran on January 22, 2016, 05:27:39 PM
It's gonna be interesting the next time a "Jennifer Hudson acts better than Beyonce because she has an Oscar" thread pops up
:plzstop:
White people rack these awards yearly so what makes 2016 so different? Negroes sit. Always wanting to debate and moan over something. FOH.
Debate about the important things. Like the HIV rate, poverty, obesity and broken families in the community. Not an award.
There are many black legends who were never awarded or acclaimed outside of the black community yet they managed to make an impact in their respective industry.
Quote from: Amara on January 22, 2016, 05:25:07 PM
We need our own writers and studios and our own platforms.
All these awards were created for whites by whites, we always cackle and devalue our own accomplishments and platforms for the whities.
I agree with this
At least Jada opened the floor to much needed dialogue though
If there's one positive thing about this, it's that people are talking.
Now if they continue that concern...that's another problem :dead:
Quote from: imaan. on January 22, 2016, 05:29:16 PM
There are many black legends who were never awarded or acclaimed outside of the black community yet they managed to make an impact in their respective industry.
Quote from: inluvwitbran on January 22, 2016, 05:27:39 PM
It's gonna be interesting the next time a "Jennifer Hudson acts better than Beyonce because she has an Oscar" thread pops up
d
or when you mention Beyonce's Grammys over her BET Awards. Oh.
But equality! #OscarsSoDamnWhite!
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Quote from: ANIMMAI on January 22, 2016, 05:27:47 PM
Quote from: Rajesha on January 22, 2016, 05:22:42 PM
But if you keep it this way, white people will have tons of heroes to look up too and blacks will look like flops in the future.
...because they weren't given an award? That sounds kind of superficial.
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!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Because thats how we truly decide if we love someone as an actor or not, if they have an Academy award :dead:
Quote from: imaan. on January 22, 2016, 05:30:45 PM
Quote from: inluvwitbran on January 22, 2016, 05:27:39 PM
It's gonna be interesting the next time a "Jennifer Hudson acts better than Beyonce because she has an Oscar" thread pops up
d
or when you mention Beyonce's Grammys over her BET Awards. Oh.
But equality! #OscarsSoDamnWhite!
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g
Quote from: ANIMMAI on January 22, 2016, 05:30:20 PM
Quote from: imaan. on January 22, 2016, 05:29:16 PM
There are many black legends who were never awarded or acclaimed outside of the black community yet they managed to make an impact in their respective industry.
Quote from: ANIMMAI on January 22, 2016, 05:27:47 PM
Quote from: Rajesha on January 22, 2016, 05:22:42 PM
But if you keep it this way, white people will have tons of heroes to look up too and blacks will look like flops in the future.
...because they weren't given an award? That sounds kind of superficial.
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Why do you think countries PUMP so much money into beauty pageants, Olympic sports events, NASA programs, fund science projects etc. They want their nation to be PERCHED in history. It is all just titles and Awards, but for the future generation it is pride and self esteem. And simply being associated with greatness will up your outside perception. Because many Latinas were deemed the most beautiful, people consider Hispanic women often times pretty be default, same how blacks get stereotyped as whatever they are "historically" known for.
Leaving traces is crucial.
Quote from: imaan. on January 22, 2016, 05:30:45 PM
Quote from: inluvwitbran on January 22, 2016, 05:27:39 PM
It's gonna be interesting the next time a "Jennifer Hudson acts better than Beyonce because she has an Oscar" thread pops up
d
or when you mention Beyonce's Grammys over her BET Awards. Oh.
never did that though
but oh REBUTTAL!
:kii:
look, when the fuck is angela bassett gonna be honored?!
she needs ha just due!
:omgwatshappening:
Quote from: Rajesha on January 22, 2016, 05:31:51 PM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on January 22, 2016, 05:27:47 PM
Quote from: Rajesha on January 22, 2016, 05:22:42 PM
But if you keep it this way, white people will have tons of heroes to look up too and blacks will look like flops in the future.
...because they weren't given an award? That sounds kind of superficial.
(https://media.giphy.com/media/l2JI5BUnWrvl4yBvq/giphy.gif)
Why do you think country PUMP so much money into beauty pageants, Olympic sports events, NASA programs, fund science projects etc. They want their nation to be PERCHED in history. It is all just titles and Awards, but for the future generation it is pride and self esteem. And simply being associated with greatness will up your outside perception. Because many Latinas were deemed the most beautiful, people consider Hispanic women often times pretty be default, same how blacks get stereotyped as whatever they are "historically" known for.
Leaving traces is crucial.
You make a good point too.
Quote from: imaan. on January 22, 2016, 05:29:16 PM
White people rack these awards yearly so what makes 2016 so different? Negroes sit. Always wanting to debate and moan over something. FOH.
Debate about the important things. Like the HIV rate, poverty, obesity and broken families in the community. Not an award.
There are many black legends who were never awarded or acclaimed outside of the black community yet they managed to make an impact in their respective industry.
I agree
I don't think awards hold as much weight as everyone is trying to make it seem
I don't think people hold Beyonce or Mariah for example, in such high regard because of the Grammy or 18 #1s
Quote from: H??R J?RD∆Ń on January 22, 2016, 05:29:35 PM
Quote from: Amara on January 22, 2016, 05:25:07 PM
We need our own writers and studios and our own platforms.
All these awards were created for whites by whites, we always cackle and devalue our own accomplishments and platforms for the whities.
I agree with this
!!!!
If we had proper studios, amazing writers, directors and producers(who are actually out there, but can't get work), black people wouldn't even care about the oscars.
We need our own, if we poured money and support into the platforms we already have, instead of comparing them to outlets that have 10x the money and backing we have, we'd wouldn't be having this dialogue
I think it's time we created and nourished our own, instead of fighting for what the whites don't want to give us, it implies no matter what we accomplish or achieve, deep down it'll never be 'white' so it's not good enough
Quote from: Amara on January 22, 2016, 05:30:17 PM
At least Jada opened the floor to much needed dialogue though
If there's one positive thing about this, it's that people are talking.
Now if they continue that concern...that's another problem :dead:
right
and the dialogue needs to be had. It's not like ppl are begging
The point of what Jada said is if they won't recognize us, we should stop supporting. The next move SHOULD be to support more Black shows
but wait until they happen jeez :uhh:
The issue for me is that every single time we raise an issue it's always "why not this or why not that" why can't we do it all? Why can't we attack it all at once. You have blacks speaking out against every injustice there is not just one. This Oscars injust is just the latest one.
Why fight the change we are trying to succeed? Why not just support and stand United? That's the problem with Blacks in General. We do so much to tear each other down. The shit is sad and it really makes these kinds of discussions uncomfortable for me.
Quote from: Amara on January 22, 2016, 05:35:48 PM
If we had proper studios, amazing writers, directors and producers(who are actually out there, but can't get work), black people wouldn't even care about the oscars.
We need our own, if we poured money and support into the platforms we already have, instead of comparing them to outlets that have 10x the money and backing we have, we'd wouldn't be having this dialogue
I think it's time we created and nourished our own, instead of fighting for what the whites don't want to give us, it implies no matter what we accomplish or achieve, deep down it'll never be 'white' so it's not good enough
right
It's why I appreciate Tyler, even though he's trash. Cause there's trash in every demographic
I just wish some others could begin to have the breakthrough he had. We haven't really had anyone like him in a while.
Quote from: Amara on January 22, 2016, 05:35:48 PM
If we had proper studios, amazing writers, directors and producers(who are actually out there, but can't get work), black people wouldn't even care about the oscars.
We need our own, if we poured money and support into the platforms we already have, instead of comparing them to outlets that have 10x the money and backing we have, we'd wouldn't be having this dialogue
I think it's time we created and nourished our own, instead of fighting for what the whites don't want to give us, it implies no matter what we accomplish or achieve, deep down it'll never be 'white' so it's not good enough
Preach luv
:butwait!:
I'm sorry I don't want my people to look like flops in classes about history and human culture. Either fill them shits up with niggers, or destroy the institution. It's annoying enough that all the great things are officially "European", all the biggest films, all the biggest sports event winners, all the great scientific accomplishments, all the best "writers", "poets"...
etc.
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well, maybe it is a personal thing. I'm not looking to the person with the most awards and trophies as the harbinger of talent nor I'm shitting on the person who didn't get recognized by the the majority...
but that's just me :bvy:
I thought you didn't consider yourself black
And that's no shade
Quote from: H??R J?RD∆Ń on January 22, 2016, 05:36:55 PM
The issue for me is that every single time we raise an issue it's always "why not this or why not that" why can't we do it all? Why can't we attack it all at once. You have blacks speaking out against every injustice there is not just one. This Oscars injust is just the latest one.
Why fight the change we are trying to succeed? Why not just support and stand United? That's the problem with Blacks in General. We do so much to tear each other down. The shit is sad and it really makes these kinds of discussions uncomfortable for me.
exactly EVERY TIME it never fails. Now ppl are complaining about how Black ppl are mad about the Oscars because "insert other tragedy or issue" that's the brainwashing in us. Always have to stop one movement to try to start another and never accomplish anything
there also needs to be someone WILLING to take risks!!
i love tyler perry, but it delivers certain material that is not progressive, to maybe no fault of his own - because he thinks that's what the people want or say they want.
i remember when Hollywood Divas were talking about their WITCH SHOW project
Bitch, I would be PERCHED to watch an all black female witch TV show.
Shit, I even want Brandy in a supernatural mess.
But they shot it down.
There needs to be someone who's willing to take films to the next level for black actors, IMO.
It's crazy to me how Will and Jada can sit on Overbrook and complain
You ain't helping
:bvy:
CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG?!
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Well history isn't that long and I don't see the European reign being over anytime soon
I just want to see more of us behind the scenes instead of begging to be recognized by people who really don't fuck with us that heavy.
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Quote from: SUPREME on January 22, 2016, 05:33:28 PM
Quote from: imaan. on January 22, 2016, 05:29:16 PM
White people rack these awards yearly so what makes 2016 so different? Negroes sit. Always wanting to debate and moan over something. FOH.
Debate about the important things. Like the HIV rate, poverty, obesity and broken families in the community. Not an award.
There are many black legends who were never awarded or acclaimed outside of the black community yet they managed to make an impact in their respective industry.
I agree
I don't think awards hold as much weight as everyone is trying to make it seem
I don't think people hold Beyonce or Mariah for example, in such high regard because of the Grammy or 18 #1s
Those things are really just the small part of their legacy.
Though they are nice when said. They don't speak to the impact they've had on the industry.
Just nice to have.
Quote from: Nine on January 22, 2016, 05:40:33 PM
It's crazy to me how Will and Jada can sit on Overbrook and complain
You ain't helping
:bvy:
They produce black mainstream content. They hire black writers, black directors, black producers, etc. They put in the work.
Quote from: H??R J?RD∆Ń on January 22, 2016, 05:44:01 PM
Quote from: Nine on January 22, 2016, 05:40:33 PM
It's crazy to me how Will and Jada can sit on Overbrook and complain
You ain't helping
:bvy:
They produce black mainstream content. They hire black writers, black directors, black producers, etc. They put in the work.
exactly
I just posted a link to the Overbrook site they def are helping
Quote from: ANIMMAI on January 22, 2016, 05:09:55 PM
Quote from: Rajesha on January 22, 2016, 05:05:48 PM
You guys do not see the bigger picture. Oscars write history. They are what will remain.
When people look back at cinematic accomplishments of human kind, they will see nothing but white people which will further cement and perpetuate the notion of white supremacy for the future.
am mean, you'll be presented as "Academy award winner _______ " for the rest of your career and that sounds really cute but most people can't name who won for any of the major categories in any specific year. :dead:
and like Viola said, the issue isn't the awards...it's the studios and overwhelmingly Caucasian folks behind the scenes that need to be examined.
true
Whoopi shared similar thoughts
Quote from: H??R J?RD∆Ń on January 22, 2016, 05:44:01 PM
Quote from: Nine on January 22, 2016, 05:40:33 PM
It's crazy to me how Will and Jada can sit on Overbrook and complain
You ain't helping
:bvy:
They produce black mainstream content. They hire black writers, black directors, black producers, etc. They put in the work.
The last thing they did was Annie and The Queen Latifah Show
:holdupguys:
@ yumz
Sometimes it is a matter of temporal resources. Ok, so in music, you will go in depth. But let's say you quickly want to inform yourself about for example architecture, you will just see whatever appears on the surface of your research, or maybe fashion models, you might end up checking out girls who covered VOGUE to get some quick info.
Titles and Awards give you a tighter grip in history, and will make you easier to discover.
Quote from: Rajesha on January 22, 2016, 05:15:05 PM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on January 22, 2016, 05:09:55 PM
Quote from: Rajesha on January 22, 2016, 05:05:48 PM
You guys do not see the bigger picture. Oscars write history. They are what will remain.
When people look back at cinematic accomplishments of human kind, they will see nothing but white people which will further cement and perpetuate the notion of white supremacy for the future.
am mean, you'll be presented as "Academy award winner _______ " for the rest of your career and that sounds really cute but most people can't name who won for any of the major categories in any specific year. :dead:
and like Viola said, the issue isn't the awards...it's the studios and overwhelmingly Caucasian folks behind the scenes that need to be examined.
Yumz, I don't know shit about science or scientific people or who invented what, so what I will do is go down all the Noble prize winners, as the starting point of my research. You want to know what good R&B of the 80's was like many people are going to start with the Grammys. And believe me lots of old 40's movies would be forgotten by now had it not been for the Oscar they won. Any Oscar winner will forever be remembered, as the institution as of now has outlived any actor. This has political magnitude. Oscars will be covered in books about Human culture etc.
Either you devalue the Oscar by taking its credibility and giving it a bias/racist reputation or you make sure you get included because in a 100 years people will have forgotten Gabrielle Union, but probably still remember Halle Berry or hell Jennifer Hudson. Because the Oscar will still be around. I only know Hattie McDaniels cause she won.
malc wait
:stressed:
Idk guys. 😩😩😩 I think both sides make great points. I will say, I personally wouldn't put one issue over the other. Sure, projects getting green lit and all the white prejudiced folks behind the scenes, make up a big chunk of the issue, but I don't see an issue with the "boycott" either because it still can help bring about some sort of change or at least garner some attention toward the real damn issue
It's a START
Quote from: RIG on January 22, 2016, 05:49:08 PM
Quote from: Rajesha on January 22, 2016, 05:15:05 PM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on January 22, 2016, 05:09:55 PM
Quote from: Rajesha on January 22, 2016, 05:05:48 PM
You guys do not see the bigger picture. Oscars write history. They are what will remain.
When people look back at cinematic accomplishments of human kind, they will see nothing but white people which will further cement and perpetuate the notion of white supremacy for the future.
am mean, you'll be presented as "Academy award winner _______ " for the rest of your career and that sounds really cute but most people can't name who won for any of the major categories in any specific year. :dead:
and like Viola said, the issue isn't the awards...it's the studios and overwhelmingly Caucasian folks behind the scenes that need to be examined.
Yumz, I don't know shit about science or scientific people or who invented what, so what I will do is go down all the Noble prize winners, as the starting point of my research. You want to know what good R&B of the 80's was like many people are going to start with the Grammys. And believe me lots of old 40's movies would be forgotten by now had it not been for the Oscar they won. Any Oscar winner will forever be remembered, as the institution as of now has outlived any actor. This has political magnitude. Oscars will be covered in books about Human culture etc.
Either you devalue the Oscar by taking its credibility and giving it a bias/racist reputation or you make sure you get included because in a 100 years people will have forgotten Gabrielle Union, but probably still remember Halle Berry or hell Jennifer Hudson. Because the Oscar will still be around. I only know Hattie McDaniels cause she won.
malc wait
:stressed:
Idk guys. 😩😩😩 I think both sides make great points. I will say, I personally wouldn't put one issue over the other. Sure, projects getting green lit and all the white prejudiced folks behind the scenes, make up a big chunk of the issue, but I don't see an issue with the "boycott" either because it still can help bring about some sort of change or at least garner some attention toward the real damn issue
It's a START
exactly what I said, why do we keep trying to prevent the START?
If they show up at the MTV Movie awards later THEN complain
this was corny..
sdsd
none of these white late night hosts are funny
Quote from: RIG on January 22, 2016, 05:49:08 PM
Quote from: Rajesha on January 22, 2016, 05:15:05 PM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on January 22, 2016, 05:09:55 PM
Quote from: Rajesha on January 22, 2016, 05:05:48 PM
You guys do not see the bigger picture. Oscars write history. They are what will remain.
When people look back at cinematic accomplishments of human kind, they will see nothing but white people which will further cement and perpetuate the notion of white supremacy for the future.
am mean, you'll be presented as "Academy award winner _______ " for the rest of your career and that sounds really cute but most people can't name who won for any of the major categories in any specific year. :dead:
and like Viola said, the issue isn't the awards...it's the studios and overwhelmingly Caucasian folks behind the scenes that need to be examined.
Yumz, I don't know shit about science or scientific people or who invented what, so what I will do is go down all the Noble prize winners, as the starting point of my research. You want to know what good R&B of the 80's was like many people are going to start with the Grammys. And believe me lots of old 40's movies would be forgotten by now had it not been for the Oscar they won. Any Oscar winner will forever be remembered, as the institution as of now has outlived any actor. This has political magnitude. Oscars will be covered in books about Human culture etc.
Either you devalue the Oscar by taking its credibility and giving it a bias/racist reputation or you make sure you get included because in a 100 years people will have forgotten Gabrielle Union, but probably still remember Halle Berry or hell Jennifer Hudson. Because the Oscar will still be around. I only know Hattie McDaniels cause she won.
malc wait
:stressed:
Idk guys. 😩😩😩 I think both sides make great points. I will say, I personally wouldn't put one issue over the other. Sure, projects getting green lit and all the white prejudiced folks behind the scenes, make up a big chunk of the issue, but I don't see an issue with the "boycott" either because it still can help bring about some sort of change or at least garner some attention toward the real damn issue
It's a START
I am actually impressed with what Jada's little vidya sparked.
Quote from: ANIMMAI on January 22, 2016, 05:19:29 PM
Quote from: Rajesha on January 22, 2016, 05:15:05 PM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on January 22, 2016, 05:09:55 PM
Quote from: Rajesha on January 22, 2016, 05:05:48 PM
You guys do not see the bigger picture. Oscars write history. They are what will remain.
When people look back at cinematic accomplishments of human kind, they will see nothing but white people which will further cement and perpetuate the notion of white supremacy for the future.
am mean, you'll be presented as "Academy award winner _______ " for the rest of your career and that sounds really cute but most people can't name who won for any of the major categories in any specific year. :dead:
and like Viola said, the issue isn't the awards...it's the studios and overwhelmingly Caucasian folks behind the scenes that need to be examined.
Yumz, I don't know shit about science or scientific people or who invented what, so what I will do is go down all the Noble prize winners, as the starting point of my research. You want to know what good R&B of the 80's was like many people are going to start with the Grammys. And believe me lots of old 40's movies would be forgotten by had it not been for the Oscar. Any Oscar winner will forever be remembered, as the institution as of now has outlived any actor. This has political magnitude. Oscars will be covered in books about Human culture etc.
Either you devalue the Oscar by taking its credibility and giving it a bias/racist reputation or you make sure you get included because in a 100 years people will have forgotten Gabrielle Union, but probably still remember Halle Berry or hell Jennifer Hudson. Because the Oscar will still be around. I only know Hattie McDaniels cause she won.
well, of course you remember Hattie and Halle because they were historic wins. I just don't see the need for validation from awards or a pat on the back from a committee of white people.
Sorry :dead:
i see what you mean, but I just don't think of it like that. The award usually goes to performances that can't be denied no matter what race is handing out the trophy or ultimately helping to make the decision
Quote from: SUPREME on January 22, 2016, 05:33:28 PM
Quote from: imaan. on January 22, 2016, 05:29:16 PM
White people rack these awards yearly so what makes 2016 so different? Negroes sit. Always wanting to debate and moan over something. FOH.
Debate about the important things. Like the HIV rate, poverty, obesity and broken families in the community. Not an award.
There are many black legends who were never awarded or acclaimed outside of the black community yet they managed to make an impact in their respective industry.
I agree
I don't think awards hold as much weight as everyone is trying to make it seem
I don't think people hold Beyonce or Mariah for example, in such high regard because of the Grammy or 18 #1s
dead. This is true too
n
Cuz those things aren't the first things that come to mind when I think of them. Like ... EVER :dead:
This entire segment was late.
:hmph:
Gz bxdbbd they are trying to distract us.
What the fuck is bout to happen?