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Title: "No tip, no trip": Doordash/Uber drivers refusing to pick up orders with no tip
Post by: Russian Roulette on February 18, 2022, 09:32:14 PM
it's a trend unfolding that seems to be catching

i didn't even know they can actually see the tip beforehand
those who pride themselves on not tipping delivery people should probably know they can see that "0" next to the tip before handling your food.

or in some cases it doesn't say it exactly but they can quickly calculate it based on the order to figure it out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJtzfUwq2Kk
Title: Re: "No tip, no trip": Doordash/Uber drivers refusing to pick up orders with no tip
Post by: Purple Moon on February 18, 2022, 09:36:03 PM
Quote from: sabor brasileiro on February 18, 2022, 09:32:14 PM
it's a trend unfolding that seems to be catching

i didn't even know they can actually see the tip beforehand
those who pride yourselves on not tipping delivery people should probably know they can see that "0" next to the tip before handling your food.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJtzfUwq2Kk
maybe some people wanna tip in cash? Id be scared that uber eats will just keep the tip if i pay it digitally. Or maybe its different in the U.S.
Title: Re: "No tip, no trip": Doordash/Uber drivers refusing to pick up orders with no tip
Post by: Russian Roulette on February 18, 2022, 09:44:26 PM
Quote from: BrandySavedMyLife on February 18, 2022, 09:36:03 PM
Quote from: sabor brasileiro on February 18, 2022, 09:32:14 PM
it's a trend unfolding that seems to be catching

i didn't even know they can actually see the tip beforehand
those who pride yourselves on not tipping delivery people should probably know they can see that "0" next to the tip before handling your food.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJtzfUwq2Kk
maybe some people wanna tip in cash? Id be scared that uber eats will just keep the tip if i pay it digitally. Or maybe its different in the U.S.
its different here. uber eats drivers can def see exactly how much you tipped especially after the trip - they even send "Thank you" messages to confirm they'vre ceived it.

i honestly feel delivery drivers are sometimes treated like shit here in the states

many times its legit people saying "im not tipping cuz i dont have to"

very little appreciation for the service they provide

if im already spending the extra money to eat out and have it delivered as opposed to being more frugal by cooking my own food im def gonna go a little further and tip.

people make it about spending too much money unnecessarily but i feel if you're really concerned about cost and spending little money as possible u wouldn't be eating out . u'd be making a grilled cheese sandwich on ur stove or heating up ramen noodles or something .

sfsfsfsfsfssf

i just feel its kinda selfish and im kinda happy to see them standing up for themselves. people say "its ur job to do this im not paying u extra for that"....well they're kinda showing the gorls they dont HAVE to pick up your orders cuz they're independent contractors.

Title: Re: "No tip, no trip": Doordash/Uber drivers refusing to pick up orders with no tip
Post by: Nine on February 18, 2022, 09:48:50 PM
Time for them to stop bitching and get a new job then
Title: Re: "No tip, no trip": Doordash/Uber drivers refusing to pick up orders with no tip
Post by: Russian Roulette on February 18, 2022, 09:54:33 PM
Quote from: Nine on February 18, 2022, 09:48:50 PM
Time for them to stop bitching and get a new job then
they're keepin the same job toots

just leaving the orders with no tips to get cold ...skipping them
and pickin up the orders with a tip included to make sure those customers get their food pipin' hot and fresh

it's not their" job" to pick up tip-less orders cuz they don't have to as indpeendent contractors.
they can decline any order they choose.

some mcdonalds are actually beginning to separate the orders between "tip" and "no tip" for the drivers

sfnsfnsfnsfnsfns

sounds fair to me. if someones goin the extra mile for me imma do the same for them


:cheerup:



Title: Re: "No tip, no trip": Doordash/Uber drivers refusing to pick up orders with no tip
Post by: Nine on February 18, 2022, 10:00:40 PM
Afro is one of the drivers protesting and refusing to pick up orders

Title: Re: "No tip, no trip": Doordash/Uber drivers refusing to pick up orders with no tip
Post by: Russian Roulette on February 18, 2022, 10:09:10 PM
basically

and i spit in ur canadian bacon toots.

bone apple tea!

(https://c.tenor.com/o3jNj8j4p34AAAAd/bone-apple-tea-high-five.gif)
Title: Re: "No tip, no trip": Doordash/Uber drivers refusing to pick up orders with no tip
Post by: BetterAngels on February 18, 2022, 10:18:02 PM
I'm proud that they are standing up for themselves.  If you don't want to tip, then go pick up your own food.
Title: Re: "No tip, no trip": Doordash/Uber drivers refusing to pick up orders with no tip
Post by: Demetri Collier Electronics 🤴🏾 on February 19, 2022, 02:02:02 AM
I find this a little silly. I tip based off my service and experience so...... I wait until its iny heals and i have look at my order.
Title: Re: "No tip, no trip": Doordash/Uber drivers refusing to pick up orders with no tip
Post by: Purple Moon on February 19, 2022, 03:40:36 AM
Quote from: sabor brasileiro on February 18, 2022, 09:44:26 PM
Quote from: BrandySavedMyLife on February 18, 2022, 09:36:03 PM
Quote from: sabor brasileiro on February 18, 2022, 09:32:14 PM
it's a trend unfolding that seems to be catching

i didn't even know they can actually see the tip beforehand
those who pride yourselves on not tipping delivery people should probably know they can see that "0" next to the tip before handling your food.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJtzfUwq2Kk
maybe some people wanna tip in cash? Id be scared that uber eats will just keep the tip if i pay it digitally. Or maybe its different in the U.S.
its different here. uber eats drivers can def see exactly how much you tipped especially after the trip - they even send "Thank you" messages to confirm they'vre ceived it.

i honestly feel delivery drivers are sometimes treated like shit here in the states

many times its legit people saying "im not tipping cuz i dont have to"

very little appreciation for the service they provide

if im already spending the extra money to eat out and have it delivered as opposed to being more frugal by cooking my own food im def gonna go a little further and tip.

people make it about spending too much money unnecessarily but i feel if you're really concerned about cost and spending little money as possible u wouldn't be eating out . u'd be making a grilled cheese sandwich on ur stove or heating up ramen noodles or something .

sfsfsfsfsfssf

i just feel its kinda selfish and im kinda happy to see them standing up for themselves. people say "its ur job to do this im not paying u extra for that"....well they're kinda showing the gorls they dont HAVE to pick up your orders cuz they're independent contractors.
yea i love that, thats how things might change
Title: Re: "No tip, no trip": Doordash/Uber drivers refusing to pick up orders with no tip
Post by: Annie on February 19, 2022, 05:05:28 AM
A tip should be a bonus for good service. Delivery and good quality of food should be guaranteed. It's time for employers to pay their employees instead of counting on costumers to do it for them. Why would I pay a tip if you are late? Why in a restaurant get a big tip if the waiter is giving me an attitude and  the food is cold? A tip should be a reward. I think they should get minimal wage, there need to be good rules about this in the states to make sure people get paid what they deserve.
Title: Re: "No tip, no trip": Doordash/Uber drivers refusing to pick up orders with no tip
Post by: Annie on February 19, 2022, 05:08:03 AM
Quote from: BetterAngels on February 18, 2022, 10:18:02 PM
I'm proud that they are standing up for themselves.  If you don't want to tip, then go pick up your own food.

If the employer doesn't pay employees to deliver, then delete the delivery option and make consumers go pick up their own food.
Title: Re: "No tip, no trip": Doordash/Uber drivers refusing to pick up orders with no tip
Post by: Purple Moon on February 19, 2022, 05:39:54 AM
Quote from: annie on February 19, 2022, 05:08:03 AM
Quote from: BetterAngels on February 18, 2022, 10:18:02 PM
I'm proud that they are standing up for themselves.  If you don't want to tip, then go pick up your own food.

If the employer doesn't pay employees to deliver, then delete the delivery option and make consumers go pick up their own food.
i mean no matter in which country most delivery people get paid very little and get treated like shit. I understand where you'te coming from with the tip being earned by good service but why not just tip them to even out their unjust payment and treatment a bit? Sure if somebody cursed you out or is rude af you dont have to tip and you can complain
Title: Re: "No tip, no trip": Doordash/Uber drivers refusing to pick up orders with no tip
Post by: ssw4919 on February 19, 2022, 05:49:27 AM
I tip, and it never dawned on me to not do it.
Title: Re: "No tip, no trip": Doordash/Uber drivers refusing to pick up orders with no tip
Post by: United Nations Barbie 🇺🇳 on February 19, 2022, 05:58:40 AM
I mean, some drivers are really shitty so I can see why someone would want to wait until they receive their order before delivering but there's also no guarantee that the person who placed the order will even be there when they arrive.

Also, how much do you guys tip for delivery and how much for when you pick up takeout?
Title: Re: "No tip, no trip": Doordash/Uber drivers refusing to pick up orders with no tip
Post by: Demetri Collier Electronics 🤴🏾 on February 19, 2022, 06:04:41 AM
Quote from: annie on February 19, 2022, 05:05:28 AM
A tip should be a bonus for good service. Delivery and good quality of food should be guaranteed. It's time for employers to pay their employees instead of counting on costumers to do it for them. Why would I pay a tip if you are late? Why in a restaurant get a big tip if the waiter is giving me an attitude and  the food is cold? A tip should be a reward. I think they should get minimal wage, there need to be good rules about this in the states to make sure people get paid what they deserve.
Periodt!!!
Title: Re: "No tip, no trip": Doordash/Uber drivers refusing to pick up orders with no tip
Post by: United Nations Barbie 🇺🇳 on February 19, 2022, 06:06:07 AM
Quote from: Demetri Merrick Rocka 🤴🏾 on February 19, 2022, 06:04:41 AM
Quote from: annie on February 19, 2022, 05:05:28 AM
A tip should be a bonus for good service. Delivery and good quality of food should be guaranteed. It's time for employers to pay their employees instead of counting on costumers to do it for them. Why would I pay a tip if you are late? Why in a restaurant get a big tip if the waiter is giving me an attitude and  the food is cold? A tip should be a reward. I think they should get minimal wage, there need to be good rules about this in the states to make sure people get paid what they deserve.
Periodt!!!
Title: Re: "No tip, no trip": Doordash/Uber drivers refusing to pick up orders with no tip
Post by: Russian Roulette on February 19, 2022, 06:21:47 AM
These people who work for ubereats DoorDash etc aren't employees though

theyre independent contractors who have no hourly wage , just an agreement via an app of how customer payments will be split

but I mean it's getting to the point where the drivers are getting more strategic with their pickups . I can't blame them cuz they're putting wear and tear on their car, gas money, their time being spent ... don't forget rain, heat, cold weather ...all for someone who's placing a $5 order with no tip included?

gorls... get your trifling asses up and walk to the store to pick up ur own food if ur gonna be doing mess like that . Or better yet, if you really wanna save money do the old fashioned tea of actually cooking ur own food and serving it to urself.

People legit  treat luxuries as a necessity . You shouldn't be spending your last coins on takeout food and food delivery. So It's not even about who has more money to spend.

They're skipping/passing on those 0 tip orders now and leaving them at restaurants to get cold until a driver who ain't up on game yet takes the order . I can't blame them.
Title: Re: "No tip, no trip": Doordash/Uber drivers refusing to pick up orders with no tip
Post by: United Nations Barbie 🇺🇳 on February 19, 2022, 06:36:29 AM
I understand that drivers are not employees of these restaurants/delivery companies but I still feel like there needs to be action to hold these companies accountable. Where does the "$4.99 delivery fee" go and how is this legal?

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Title: Re: "No tip, no trip": Doordash/Uber drivers refusing to pick up orders with no tip
Post by: Russian Roulette on February 19, 2022, 06:48:55 AM
I honestly think people continue to do this because they're under the impression that these drivers are required to take whatever order that is assigned to them. 

so the attitude is pretty much "just do ur job! 🤷🏾‍♀️ Bring me my food for 0 tip! Lolz don't like it? Tough luck toots! Find another job!"

but I think that if more customers are aware that these drivers can pick their orders and leave yours sitting in the restaurant .... They'll def think about adding that tip so their food isn't ice cold by the time it arrives because 10 drivers hit the "no thnx lolz" button and passed on their  tipless order

very smart of them to try and get this "no tip no trip" thing trending. They need as many drivers on board as possible for it to really work well.
Title: Re: "No tip, no trip": Doordash/Uber drivers refusing to pick up orders with no tip
Post by: Russian Roulette on February 19, 2022, 06:56:43 AM
Quote from: Big Barbie on February 19, 2022, 06:36:29 AM
I understand that drivers are not employees of these restaurants/delivery companies but I still feel like there needs to be action to hold these companies accountable. Where does the "$4.99 delivery fee" go and how is this legal?

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bbbggggvggggggggvhggggg

I mean the delivery company actually provides and maintains the platform used etc . They have operation costs and or course they're in business to make a huge profit

Uber and DoorDash people actually make decent money when people are just slightly generous. I'm sure they're not balling out of control but I've seen some of them say they make a cute lil coin.

It sometimes comes down to the area they're working... many of them are strategic with that too.
Title: Re: "No tip, no trip": Doordash/Uber drivers refusing to pick up orders with no tip
Post by: Purple Moon on February 19, 2022, 07:16:59 AM
Quote from: sabor brasileiro on February 19, 2022, 06:56:43 AM
Quote from: Big Barbie on February 19, 2022, 06:36:29 AM
I understand that drivers are not employees of these restaurants/delivery companies but I still feel like there needs to be action to hold these companies accountable. Where does the "$4.99 delivery fee" go and how is this legal?

(https://c.tenor.com/Cg0LmzdXC9YAAAAC/kelly-osbourne-angmerino.gif)
bbbggggvggggggggvhggggg

I mean the delivery company actually provides and maintains the platform used etc . They have operation costs and or course they're in business to make a huge profit

Uber and DoorDash people actually make decent money when people are just slightly generous. I'm sure they're not balling out of control but I've seen some of them say they make a cute lil coin.

It sometimes comes down to the area they're working... many of them are strategic with that too.
in germany i heard from alot of drivers that they ditched uber for other apps because uber keeps the biggest percentage.  That's why alot of Uber drivers here do crazy hours to compensate for the huge part that Uber keeps and they fall asleep and crash the car. They are a shitty company.
Title: Re: "No tip, no trip": Doordash/Uber drivers refusing to pick up orders with no tip
Post by: Purple Moon on February 19, 2022, 07:20:21 AM
But im confused, are we talking about the uber cab drivers or just the uber food delivery? Here uber eats delivery is on bikes so its different from the uber cab drivers.
Title: Re: "No tip, no trip": Doordash/Uber drivers refusing to pick up orders with no tip
Post by: Russian Roulette on February 19, 2022, 07:21:46 AM
Quote from: BrandySavedMyLife on February 19, 2022, 07:20:21 AM
But im confused, are we talking about the uber cab drivers or just the uber food delivery? Here uber eats delivery is on bikes so its different from the uber cab drivers.
vbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb

It's ubereats

Here in the states most use their cars for it
Title: Re: "No tip, no trip": Doordash/Uber drivers refusing to pick up orders with no tip
Post by: Russian Roulette on February 19, 2022, 07:24:25 AM
Uhhhhhhhhbffffffffffffgg

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Title: Re: "No tip, no trip": Doordash/Uber drivers refusing to pick up orders with no tip
Post by: United Nations Barbie 🇺🇳 on February 19, 2022, 07:55:35 AM
Quote from: sabor brasileiro on February 19, 2022, 07:24:25 AM
Uhhhhhhhhbffffffffffffgg

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I was very detailed to limit the confusion. I don't see the problem.
:trannyjblige:
Title: Re: "No tip, no trip": Doordash/Uber drivers refusing to pick up orders with no tip
Post by: Russian Roulette on February 19, 2022, 08:12:35 AM
Gggggfffggggggggggg

the order was canceled hun.
Title: Re: "No tip, no trip": Doordash/Uber drivers refusing to pick up orders with no tip
Post by: Russian Roulette on February 19, 2022, 08:15:03 AM
  :uhh: :uhh: :uhh:

(https://uploadir.com/u/fvfm9swz)
Title: Re: "No tip, no trip": Doordash/Uber drivers refusing to pick up orders with no tip
Post by: Freemala Harris on February 19, 2022, 08:36:19 AM
hhhhhhhh when he ate that nugget and then TOSSED the rest @ Abigail
Title: Re: "No tip, no trip": Doordash/Uber drivers refusing to pick up orders with no tip
Post by: United Nations Barbie 🇺🇳 on February 19, 2022, 08:36:59 AM
Quote from: sabor brasileiro on February 19, 2022, 08:12:35 AM
Gggggfffggggggggggg

the order was canceled hun.
nnnnnnnnnnnnb

Um, so what am I eating?
:ummwhat:
Title: Re: "No tip, no trip": Doordash/Uber drivers refusing to pick up orders with no tip
Post by: Purple Moon on February 19, 2022, 08:39:41 AM
Quote from: sabor brasileiro on February 19, 2022, 07:21:46 AM
Quote from: BrandySavedMyLife on February 19, 2022, 07:20:21 AM
But im confused, are we talking about the uber cab drivers or just the uber food delivery? Here uber eats delivery is on bikes so its different from the uber cab drivers.
vbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb

It's ubereats

Here in the states most use their cars for it
interesting
Title: Re: "No tip, no trip": Doordash/Uber drivers refusing to pick up orders with no tip
Post by: Purple Moon on February 19, 2022, 08:41:43 AM
Quote from: sabor brasileiro on February 19, 2022, 08:15:03 AM
  :uhh: :uhh: :uhh:

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some desperate guy trying to suvk off a delivery driver he didnt even see yet  :dead:
Title: Re: "No tip, no trip": Doordash/Uber drivers refusing to pick up orders with no tip
Post by: CHOKE on February 19, 2022, 08:55:38 AM
There are jus some things you jus have to do for yourself, no matter how convenient another option may be

Like forget them not picking up your food, imagine what they're doing TO your food 
Title: Re: "No tip, no trip": Doordash/Uber drivers refusing to pick up orders with no tip
Post by: Ulysses on February 19, 2022, 09:00:20 AM
Poor folks always explaining why they don't tip. If you want that food HOT and good when it gets to your house, you better tip 
Title: Re: "No tip, no trip": Doordash/Uber drivers refusing to pick up orders with no tip
Post by: klappa. on February 19, 2022, 09:53:59 AM
u cant see the tip before hand this hoe is lying. and even if you could its DUMB to focus on that because many ppl like my self tip AFTER i receive my food in the app or in cash which is better. u only get a tip from me if u nice and deliver my food expeditiously. i'm not about to PRE-tip you for shit

:udontlookok:
Title: Re: "No tip, no trip": Doordash/Uber drivers refusing to pick up orders with no tip
Post by: Russian Roulette on February 19, 2022, 10:00:40 AM
Quoteor in some cases it doesn't say it exactly but they can quickly calculate it based on the order to figure it out

They've definitely figured out how to calculate whether someone has tipped or not because UE gives them the total earnings before they pick up the food .

Here at 2:25 to 3:00 a driver literally goes to a Denny's restaurant where TWO orders were available for pick up , and left the one with that clearly included no tip. She only picks up the one with a tip.

She declines the other order.

Someone else's food literally sat there getting cold waiting for another driver that's happy to waste their time picking it up. She walked right by it even though the distance to deliver was only 0.3 miles.

They're not stupid - they can do basic math and have figured out the system it seems . She literally says .... No tip , no trip 🤷🏾‍♀️ Before driving tf off lol

https://youtube.com/watch?v=RbzmhNnsVlQ

Title: Re: "No tip, no trip": Doordash/Uber drivers refusing to pick up orders with no tip
Post by: Harlem on February 19, 2022, 10:10:22 AM
This is a subject me and my pplz were talking about earlier this week... even when you do tip sometimes the UberEats or DoorDash delivery ppl don't even come straight to your door as instructed... it has happened to me plenty of times. I'm like bitch I tipped you, why are you leaving my food at the lobby and refusing to drop it at my door?!  :dead:

But I do think the app services should just include it in their fees like an automatic 15-20% tip for them in the total and anything extra is based on the customers satisfaction
Title: Re: "No tip, no trip": Doordash/Uber drivers refusing to pick up orders with no tip
Post by: klappa. on February 19, 2022, 10:11:01 AM
they cant calculate it. the apps arent set up that way. the only way they can see tip is if the restaurant puts the doordash reciept (not supposed to) on the bag instead of the store reciept. the doordash reciept will show the tip.

secondly, these drivers ARE getting paid for their deliveris. its not like they're delivering food for free. so if they think its a waste if time to deliver an order just because there's no tip, they're literally taking money out of their iwn pockets. very dumb.
Title: Re: "No tip, no trip": Doordash/Uber drivers refusing to pick up orders with no tip
Post by: rosone1 on February 19, 2022, 10:11:27 AM
The fees are already excessive.Plus, the prices are more than what it would be if you got it.Then on top of that you have to tip.
With Instacart and Doordash, I start with a small tip.If everything goes good, I adjust it.
Title: Re: "No tip, no trip": Doordash/Uber drivers refusing to pick up orders with no tip
Post by: klappa. on February 19, 2022, 10:13:39 AM
also the apps do the most these days. you got a delivery fee

then

service fee! small cart fee !

bitch the delivery IS the service tf  :everythingok: and i still need to tip on top of that ! yea i usually tip but sometimes when them fees stack, i dub

:letsmessfag:
Title: Re: "No tip, no trip": Doordash/Uber drivers refusing to pick up orders with no tip
Post by: Harlem on February 19, 2022, 10:15:37 AM
Quote from: ophelia_b on February 19, 2022, 10:13:39 AM
also the apps do the most these days. you got a delivery fee

then

service fee! small cart fee !

bitch the delivery IS the service tf  :everythingok: and i still need to tip on top of that ! yea i usually tip but sometimes when them fees stack, i dub

:letsmessfag:

Now this is a fuckin FACT! I'm like alright now y'all just adding dumb ass fees for no reason AND y'all already upcharging the food by like a $1-$3 extra from what it will be in person smh
Title: Re: "No tip, no trip": Doordash/Uber drivers refusing to pick up orders with no tip
Post by: Russian Roulette on February 19, 2022, 10:16:00 AM
I'm honestly happy for them...that they now get an opportunity to be picky with their deliveries . a lot of people actually pride themselves on shitting on and shortchanging service people like it's some badge of honor . Or like it's something cute . That shit really rubs me the wrong way.

this is their time to fight back a bit and gain control.

Anytime I use a service regularly I  want to feel like the people servicing me are happy and feel appreciated . I use UE every weekend so this is a big deal to me.

One UE guy recently delivered me a tea from midtown to here in downtown on his scooter ... when I saw he wasn't driving with the order I got nervous and felt bad like that's quite a distance to go without a car so I messaged him beforehand to check in before he took off ... to make sure he was fully aware of the distance he was about to take.

he was so damn happy to get the order to me like "oh no it'll be fast I promise !! I'll be there very soon!! " and he was . He was super duper nice about it and I was wondering why he was so happy but now it makes sense . They now know when they have a "good order" before delivering it.




Title: Re: "No tip, no trip": Doordash/Uber drivers refusing to pick up orders with no tip
Post by: rosone1 on February 19, 2022, 10:23:30 AM
Quote from: ophelia_b on February 19, 2022, 10:13:39 AM
also the apps do the most these days. you got a delivery fee

then

service fee! small cart fee !

bitch the delivery IS the service tf  :everythingok: and i still need to tip on top of that ! yea i usually tip but sometimes when them fees stack, i dub

:letsmessfag:
Right.UberEats "gave" me a 50% off promo last week.After fees, I saw no difference.
Title: Re: "No tip, no trip": Doordash/Uber drivers refusing to pick up orders with no tip
Post by: Harlem on February 19, 2022, 10:32:22 AM
Quote from: rosone1 on February 19, 2022, 10:23:30 AM
Quote from: ophelia_b on February 19, 2022, 10:13:39 AM
also the apps do the most these days. you got a delivery fee

then

service fee! small cart fee !

bitch the delivery IS the service tf  :everythingok: and i still need to tip on top of that ! yea i usually tip but sometimes when them fees stack, i dub

:letsmessfag:
Right.UberEats "gave" me a 50% off promo last week.After fees, I saw no difference.

LMAOOOOO the way they set you up to think you getting a discount but they add it back up in fees  :plzstop:
Title: Re: "No tip, no trip": Doordash/Uber drivers refusing to pick up orders with no tip
Post by: Russian Roulette on February 19, 2022, 10:32:37 AM
And yes UE and DoorDash etc charge other fees which tend to climb but guess what ... we complain about it and then STILL use the service instead of getting our asses out to get our own food or cooking it 

why? Cuz we love the LUXURY of food delivery. We love being able to be lazy and have our food not only prepared for us, but delivered to us on a platter .

But we're perfectly OK with paying those fees as we complain about them but .... punishing the DRIVER who is actually delivering the food to us and has no control over what decisions corporate makes about new and heightened fees .... With the whole "shit I already paid X amount of fees I ain't paying no more lol sorr lol" logic .

like think about it ... how would u feel?
Title: Re: "No tip, no trip": Doordash/Uber drivers refusing to pick up orders with no tip
Post by: Annie on February 19, 2022, 10:36:04 AM
Quote from: Big Barbie on February 19, 2022, 06:36:29 AM
I understand that drivers are not employees of these restaurants/delivery companies but I still feel like there needs to be action to hold these companies accountable. Where does the "$4.99 delivery fee" go and how is this legal?

(https://c.tenor.com/Cg0LmzdXC9YAAAAC/kelly-osbourne-angmerino.gif)

This!

Of course I tip but I pay a delivery fee for a reason. The food needs to arrive on time and it needs to be good quality. Or else as a company you just have to quite.
Title: Re: "No tip, no trip": Doordash/Uber drivers refusing to pick up orders with no tip
Post by: Annie on February 19, 2022, 10:37:42 AM
Quote from: Ulysses on February 19, 2022, 09:00:20 AM
Poor folks always explaining why they don't tip. If you want that food HOT and good when it gets to your house, you better tip

That's the company's responsibility. If you pay for food they need to deliver it in good condition. It's not the consumer's problem. And by making it the consumer's problem these companies will never be held accountable for underpaying staff.
Title: Re: "No tip, no trip": Doordash/Uber drivers refusing to pick up orders with no tip
Post by: ssw4919 on February 19, 2022, 10:41:00 AM
If I've ever had a problem with my order, which I think has just been InstaCart and not DoorDash, I drag them in the ratings or report them to the company.  That's worse than no tip, IMO.
Title: Re: "No tip, no trip": Doordash/Uber drivers refusing to pick up orders with no tip
Post by: Russian Roulette on February 19, 2022, 10:43:50 AM
Quote from: Harlem on February 19, 2022, 10:10:22 AM
This is a subject me and my pplz were talking about earlier this week... even when you do tip sometimes the UberEats or DoorDash delivery ppl don't even come straight to your door as instructed... it has happened to me plenty of times. I'm like bitch I tipped you, why are you leaving my food at the lobby and refusing to drop it at my door?!  :dead:

But I do think the app services should just include it in their fees like an automatic 15-20% tip for them in the total and anything extra is based on the customers satisfaction
i always meet the drivers outside in front of my building.

Honestly it makes things easier for both of us because They'd a) have to find parking which is usually a task in itself downtown b) wait for my concierge to allow them in cuz it's a secure building c) take the elevator up 14 floors

Like.... I just try to be reasonable . Im fully capable of throwing on my boots real quick and heading down to meet them in front . And it gives me just a hint of fresh air and direct sunlight for the day so why not .

Its ubereats . Not my personal salaried maid
Bdndnfnfnfnfnfdnnd



Title: Re: "No tip, no trip": Doordash/Uber drivers refusing to pick up orders with no tip
Post by: Russian Roulette on February 19, 2022, 10:47:19 AM
I think for people who live in houses with ample parking space out front that's different . The driver can def easily just walk up to the door and deliver .

That's not my situation. I live in a high rise in a busy commercial area. I have to be fair and reasonable .

Yeah I could def say "deliver directly to my front door... I don't care what it takes just get it done lmao!! :cheerup: " if I wanted to but why put them thru all that when I can just take my flat ass downstairs and get the shit myself

we gotta remember their time is money and what may seem super simple to us is a complete task for them.
Title: Re: "No tip, no trip": Doordash/Uber drivers refusing to pick up orders with no tip
Post by: Russian Roulette on February 19, 2022, 11:01:37 AM
Quote from: annie on February 19, 2022, 10:37:42 AM
Quote from: Ulysses on February 19, 2022, 09:00:20 AM
Poor folks always explaining why they don't tip. If you want that food HOT and good when it gets to your house, you better tip

That's the company's responsibility. If you pay for food they need to deliver it in good condition. It's not the consumer's problem. And by making it the consumer's problem these companies will never be held accountable for underpaying staff.
no, by continuing to use these services and paying those fees while punishing the drivers on the tip end  ... they will never be held accountable, will continue to make good profit  and the drivers who actually put in the footwork and keep their business running will suffer

We need to take accountability in our part in this  as consumers . Our vote is in our credit card swipes .

These corporations don't operate on feelings . They operate on coin and what generates or takes their coin away.


Title: Re: "No tip, no trip": Doordash/Uber drivers refusing to pick up orders with no tip
Post by: Purple Moon on February 19, 2022, 11:09:19 AM
Quote from: annie on February 19, 2022, 10:37:42 AM
Quote from: Ulysses on February 19, 2022, 09:00:20 AM
Poor folks always explaining why they don't tip. If you want that food HOT and good when it gets to your house, you better tip

That's the company's responsibility. If you pay for food they need to deliver it in good condition. It's not the consumer's problem. And by making it the consumer's problem these companies will never be held accountable for underpaying staff.
we can tip them while fighting for workers rights. Just waiting for a company to change its policies wont work.
Title: Re: "No tip, no trip": Doordash/Uber drivers refusing to pick up orders with no tip
Post by: Russian Roulette on February 19, 2022, 11:18:22 AM
Quote from: BrandySavedMyLife on February 19, 2022, 11:09:19 AM
Quote from: annie on February 19, 2022, 10:37:42 AM
Quote from: Ulysses on February 19, 2022, 09:00:20 AM
Poor folks always explaining why they don't tip. If you want that food HOT and good when it gets to your house, you better tip

That's the company's responsibility. If you pay for food they need to deliver it in good condition. It's not the consumer's problem. And by making it the consumer's problem these companies will never be held accountable for underpaying staff.
we can tip them while fighting for workers rights. Just waiting for a company to change its policies wont work.
!!

I was about to say waiting on big companies to "do the right thing" can be like waiting on paint to dry .

Which is why most times they're usually FORCED to do so out of boycotts, strikes and other threats to the coin. That's all they care about.

If these drivers suddenly or gradually went away completely a lot of us wouldn't know what to do with ourselves .

Dhdbdbbdbdbdbbdb.

If you love the luxury of food delivery Don't continue to push them away and piss them off . They're already figuring out ways to skip customers who aren't tipping entirely . Who knows what the next step may be .

Can u imagine a world where ... where ... we'd have to like ..:: cook or get our own food ? 😫😫😩😩 omf I don't even wanna fathom it!
Title: Re: "No tip, no trip": Doordash/Uber drivers refusing to pick up orders with no tip
Post by: JCJ on February 19, 2022, 11:19:23 AM
You can usually determine if you're getting a tip or not. If the order says it's paying 3-4 dollars during a no promo hour....there's no tip. I doordash from time to time.


And doordash also now tells you how many total miles the order will be so you can be selective based on that too. Not driving 10+ miles for $8.
Title: Re: "No tip, no trip": Doordash/Uber drivers refusing to pick up orders with no tip
Post by: Russian Roulette on February 19, 2022, 11:25:33 AM
Quote from: JCJ on February 19, 2022, 11:19:23 AM
You can usually determine if you're getting a tip or not. If the order says it's paying 3-4 dollars during a no promo hour....there's no tip. I doordash from time to time.


And doordash also now tells you how many total miles the order will be so you can be selective based on that too. Not driving 10+ miles for $8.
I got ur back booba :sistas:
Title: Re: "No tip, no trip": Doordash/Uber drivers refusing to pick up orders with no tip
Post by: klappa. on February 19, 2022, 11:27:20 AM
Quote from: annie on February 19, 2022, 10:37:42 AM
Quote from: Ulysses on February 19, 2022, 09:00:20 AM
Poor folks always explaining why they don't tip. If you want that food HOT and good when it gets to your house, you better tip

That's the company's responsibility. If you pay for food they need to deliver it in good condition. It's not the consumer's problem. And by making it the consumer's problem these companies will never be held accountable for underpaying staff.

these are FACTS

and i didnt comprehend this as "waiting" on a company to change their policy. but even if that is what you're saying, it STILL isn't the customers responsibility or concern. none of it. and that fact is not arguable lol.

if the delivery drivers in mass have a problem with their wage system, they need to either band together and fight or damn quit. but it ain't on the consumers. this is a independant contractor job that you sign up for. so if you don't like the stipulations there are a MILLION other jobs out there with different pay systems. take your fckn pick  :uhh:
Title: Re: "No tip, no trip": Doordash/Uber drivers refusing to pick up orders with no tip
Post by: Eh... on February 19, 2022, 12:05:11 PM
Quote from: Big Barbie on February 19, 2022, 06:06:07 AM
Quote from: Demetri Merrick Rocka 🤴🏾 on February 19, 2022, 06:04:41 AM
Quote from: annie on February 19, 2022, 05:05:28 AM
A tip should be a bonus for good service. Delivery and good quality of food should be guaranteed. It's time for employers to pay their employees instead of counting on costumers to do it for them. Why would I pay a tip if you are late? Why in a restaurant get a big tip if the waiter is giving me an attitude and  the food is cold? A tip should be a reward. I think they should get minimal wage, there need to be good rules about this in the states to make sure people get paid what they deserve.
Periodt!!!

This is a dumb mindset for gig workers like DD, GrubHub, etc... I do door dash sometimes in my free time and almost everything that you mentioned is out of the driver's control. If your food is late how is that the driver's problem? After they accept an order they have a certain timeframe to pick it up and to deliver it and if they take too long it will be unassigned from them and given to another driver. So that means if your food is really late other people either ignored it or the restaurant took too long to make it. I can't help it if your food is an hour+ later than the original delivery time if I just got it and delivered it immediately right after... Same thing applies to if your food is cold. Same thing applies if your order is wrong... We deliver closed/sealed bags we don't know if your order is wrong. The apps literally tell you when people has picked up your food so if it's an hour after it says they picked it up than it might be the driver's fault but other than that it's out of our control. I've delivered something before 3 hours after the original delivery time and the lady was pissed at me and I told her I just got this order I can't help how long it took. She didn't care she still complained about me and gave me a bad rating 🤷🏿‍♂️ after my horrible experiences I just stop caring about customers and just drop food off and go on. My acceptance rate is like 40 percent now bc I decline so many orders and I've seen some people with <10 percent acceptance rates
Title: Re: "No tip, no trip": Doordash/Uber drivers refusing to pick up orders with no tip
Post by: klappa. on February 19, 2022, 12:14:54 PM
Quote from: Eh... on February 19, 2022, 12:05:11 PM
Quote from: Big Barbie on February 19, 2022, 06:06:07 AM
Quote from: Demetri Merrick Rocka 🤴🏾 on February 19, 2022, 06:04:41 AM
Quote from: annie on February 19, 2022, 05:05:28 AM
A tip should be a bonus for good service. Delivery and good quality of food should be guaranteed. It's time for employers to pay their employees instead of counting on costumers to do it for them. Why would I pay a tip if you are late? Why in a restaurant get a big tip if the waiter is giving me an attitude and  the food is cold? A tip should be a reward. I think they should get minimal wage, there need to be good rules about this in the states to make sure people get paid what they deserve.
Periodt!!!

This is a dumb mindset for gig workers like DD, GrubHub, etc... I do door dash sometimes in my free time and almost everything that you mentioned is out of the driver's control. If your food is late how is that the driver's problem? After they accept an order they have a certain timeframe to pick it up and to deliver it and if they take too long it will be unassigned from them and given to another driver. So that means if your food is really late other people either ignored it or the restaurant took too long to make it. I can't help it if your food is an hour+ later than the original delivery time if I just got it and delivered it immediately right after... Same thing applies to if your food is cold. Same thing applies if your order is wrong... We deliver closed/sealed bags we don't know if your order is wrong. The apps literally tell you when people has picked up your food so if it's an hour after it says they picked it up than it might be the driver's fault but other than that it's out of our control. I've delivered something before 3 hours after the original delivery time and the lady was pissed at me and I told her I just got this order I can't help how long it took. She didn't care she still complained about me and gave me a bad rating 🤷🏿‍♂️ after my horrible experiences I just stop caring about customers and just drop food off and go on. My acceptance rate is like 40 percent now bc I decline so many orders and I've seen some people with <10 percent acceptance rates

it's not a dumb mindset, you BOTH have perfectly valid points

yea, a lot of stuff the delivery people can't help as its out of their control but they unfairly get blamed for it, but on the same token all delivery drivers represent the company as a whole so its not really the customer's job to parse and pick out who exactly is to blame for a poor service experience.

it literally falls down to the actual company. they need to hold drivers AND RESTAURANTS accountable more and ALSO give drivers more of an oppurtunity to defend themselvesvagain unfair/unwarranted blame regarding things that are out if their control.

but as far as pay, drivers are paid for every delivery. i tip. i belive in tipping. but uts simply not something thats OWED to you simply because you're doing a job. your PAYCHECK is whats owed to you. my tip is for recognizing great service. period.
Title: Re: "No tip, no trip": Doordash/Uber drivers refusing to pick up orders with no tip
Post by: Russian Roulette on February 19, 2022, 12:24:12 PM
Quote from: Eh... on February 19, 2022, 12:05:11 PM
Quote from: Big Barbie on February 19, 2022, 06:06:07 AM
Quote from: Demetri Merrick Rocka 🤴🏾 on February 19, 2022, 06:04:41 AM
Quote from: annie on February 19, 2022, 05:05:28 AM
A tip should be a bonus for good service. Delivery and good quality of food should be guaranteed. It's time for employers to pay their employees instead of counting on costumers to do it for them. Why would I pay a tip if you are late? Why in a restaurant get a big tip if the waiter is giving me an attitude and  the food is cold? A tip should be a reward. I think they should get minimal wage, there need to be good rules about this in the states to make sure people get paid what they deserve.
Periodt!!!

This is a dumb mindset for gig workers like DD, GrubHub, etc... I do door dash sometimes in my free time and almost everything that you mentioned is out of the driver's control. If your food is late how is that the driver's problem? After they accept an order they have a certain timeframe to pick it up and to deliver it and if they take too long it will be unassigned from them and given to another driver. So that means if your food is really late other people either ignored it or the restaurant took too long to make it. I can't help it if your food is an hour+ later than the original delivery time if I just got it and delivered it immediately right after... Same thing applies to if your food is cold. Same thing applies if your order is wrong... We deliver closed/sealed bags we don't know if your order is wrong. The apps literally tell you when people has picked up your food so if it's an hour after it says they picked it up than it might be the driver's fault but other than that it's out of our control. I've delivered something before 3 hours after the original delivery time and the lady was pissed at me and I told her I just got this order I can't help how long it took. She didn't care she still complained about me and gave me a bad rating 🤷🏿‍♂️ after my horrible experiences I just stop caring about customers and just drop food off and go on. My acceptance rate is like 40 percent now bc I decline so many orders and I've seen some people with <10 percent acceptance rates
someone literally posted on here a video of Bow Wow going IN on a door dasher driver because his order was wrong

and people in the comments cheering his mess on and cosigning ...totally oblivious to the fact that Chic-Fil-A is the one who really fucked up if they didn't get the order correct before SEALING the bag and handing it to the driver.

and bow was going in - calling the driver "dumb" and everything.

sdffsdfsfsfs just another example of these drivers getting the shit end of the stick because the customers have little to no knowledge of their actual experience and placing EVERYTHING on the person who delivers them the food - from the blame of an order being incorrect to shortchanging them on a tip because of fees that corporate has introduced.


the driver is just the final part of the process. the most direct part to us but only part of it.

Title: Re: "No tip, no trip": Doordash/Uber drivers refusing to pick up orders with no tip
Post by: DopeSoul. on February 19, 2022, 12:35:09 PM
I think a lot of ppl don't realize (myself at one point) that door dash literally just pick the mess up, deliver it and punch on

I would cuss them downe if my order was wrong but it's really the restaurants fault

One thing I appreciate that Uber eats does is call u and tell u if a store doesn't have something or if something is wrong

The rest don't do that from my experience
Title: Re: "No tip, no trip": Doordash/Uber drivers refusing to pick up orders with no tip
Post by: Eh... on February 19, 2022, 12:39:48 PM
Quote from: ophelia_b on February 19, 2022, 12:14:54 PM
Quote from: Eh... on February 19, 2022, 12:05:11 PM
Quote from: Big Barbie on February 19, 2022, 06:06:07 AM
Quote from: Demetri Merrick Rocka 🤴🏾 on February 19, 2022, 06:04:41 AM
Quote from: annie on February 19, 2022, 05:05:28 AM
A tip should be a bonus for good service. Delivery and good quality of food should be guaranteed. It's time for employers to pay their employees instead of counting on costumers to do it for them. Why would I pay a tip if you are late? Why in a restaurant get a big tip if the waiter is giving me an attitude and  the food is cold? A tip should be a reward. I think they should get minimal wage, there need to be good rules about this in the states to make sure people get paid what they deserve.
Periodt!!!

This is a dumb mindset for gig workers like DD, GrubHub, etc... I do door dash sometimes in my free time and almost everything that you mentioned is out of the driver's control. If your food is late how is that the driver's problem? After they accept an order they have a certain timeframe to pick it up and to deliver it and if they take too long it will be unassigned from them and given to another driver. So that means if your food is really late other people either ignored it or the restaurant took too long to make it. I can't help it if your food is an hour+ later than the original delivery time if I just got it and delivered it immediately right after... Same thing applies to if your food is cold. Same thing applies if your order is wrong... We deliver closed/sealed bags we don't know if your order is wrong. The apps literally tell you when people has picked up your food so if it's an hour after it says they picked it up than it might be the driver's fault but other than that it's out of our control. I've delivered something before 3 hours after the original delivery time and the lady was pissed at me and I told her I just got this order I can't help how long it took. She didn't care she still complained about me and gave me a bad rating 🤷🏿‍♂️ after my horrible experiences I just stop caring about customers and just drop food off and go on. My acceptance rate is like 40 percent now bc I decline so many orders and I've seen some people with <10 percent acceptance rates

it's not a dumb mindset, you BOTH have perfectly valid points

yea, a lot of stuff the delivery people can't help as its out of their control but they unfairly get blamed for it, but on the same token all delivery drivers represent the company as a whole so its not really the customer's job to parse and pick out who exactly is to blame for a poor service experience.

it literally falls down to the actual company. they need to hold drivers AND RESTAURANTS accountable more and ALSO give drivers more of an oppurtunity to defend themselvesvagain unfair/unwarranted blame regarding things that are out if their control.

but as far as pay, drivers are paid for every delivery. i tip. i belive in tipping. but uts simply not something thats OWED to you simply because you're doing a job. your PAYCHECK is whats owed to you. my tip is for recognizing great service. period.
That's the thing the driver's can't complain to anyone bc they are not an employee of the company. Rude restaurants and customers can tear us a new one and we can't do anything but decline the orders from that point forward. How does one provide great service when all they do is deliver? I don't even see most of the people I deliver to bc we just leave it at the door and go.

These tik tokers are just doing these posts to go viral at this point bc almost everybody is just declining orders until they feel like one is worth their time. The only people with real complaints are the people who are waiting on their food for extremely long times bc people aren't picking  them up. Unfortunately this issue will never be resolved just like waitresses pay. People are clearly getting paid doing these app or people would've stopped doing them. There's times I can work 30 mins and make a quick $50 and other times I can work 2 hours and only make like $20. I've never understood why gig workers complain about pay seeing that we don't have to take the orders. Nobody is forcing anyone to take these $2.50 20 miles round trip orders yet people go online and complain about them like customers know that's all they'll get paid for delivering their food
Title: Re: "No tip, no trip": Doordash/Uber drivers refusing to pick up orders with no tip
Post by: Russian Roulette on February 19, 2022, 12:40:15 PM
Quote from: DopeSoul. on February 19, 2022, 12:35:09 PM
I think a lot of ppl don't realize (myself at one point) that door dash literally just pick the mess up, deliver it and punch on

I would cuss them downe if my order was wrong but it's really the restaurants fault

One thing I appreciate that Uber eats does is call u and tell u if a store doesn't have something or if something is wrong

The rest don't do that from my experience
and the saddest part is stuff like that only FUELS the whole "i aint payin them no tip" teas.

bow wow just put a whole viral video out telling people about how a door dash driver got his mess wrong . and not only that, but how the drivers have a habit of getting his stuff wrong.

i would be super frustrated if i were a driver seeing something like that pushed out to the masses while im counting on customer generosity to help me make ends meet.

many people only need a LITTLE bit of a reason to justify them being stingy.


Title: Re: "No tip, no trip": Doordash/Uber drivers refusing to pick up orders with no tip
Post by: Russian Roulette on February 19, 2022, 12:42:08 PM
the vidya:

https://www.instagram.com/tv/CaI3dxGJrQ4/?utm_medium=copy_link 
Title: Re: "No tip, no trip": Doordash/Uber drivers refusing to pick up orders with no tip
Post by: DopeSoul. on February 19, 2022, 12:54:59 PM
Quote from: sabor brasileiro on February 19, 2022, 12:42:08 PM
the vidya:

https://www.instagram.com/tv/CaI3dxGJrQ4/?utm_medium=copy_link
SSSDDDDFFDDDDFDDFDDDDDFD

I understand the frustration..I do 

https://youtu.be/9IPr4mvlHGQ

I had my mouth all set for what the fuck I ordered only to open the bag and HALF or ALL or what I ordered ain't in there  :unsure:

But lashing the Doordash person isn't all that fair.

I don't know their policies..how anything works but are they supposed to double check the orders?

I'm thinking no because the bags are usually sealed and covered with our NAMES slapped on them for pick up and go...

So Bow hun..u need to be going off on Chic Fil KKK
Title: Re: "No tip, no trip": Doordash/Uber drivers refusing to pick up orders with no tip
Post by: Russian Roulette on February 19, 2022, 01:02:28 PM
Quote from: DopeSoul. on February 19, 2022, 12:54:59 PM
Quote from: sabor brasileiro on February 19, 2022, 12:42:08 PM
the vidya:

https://www.instagram.com/tv/CaI3dxGJrQ4/?utm_medium=copy_link
SSSDDDDFFDDDDFDDFDDDDDFD

I understand the frustration..I do 

https://youtu.be/9IPr4mvlHGQ

I had my mouth all set for what the fuck I ordered only to open the bag and HALF or ALL or what I ordered ain't in there  :unsure:

But lashing the Doordash person isn't all that fair.

I don't know their policies..how anything works but are they supposed to double check the orders?

I'm thinking no because the bags are usually sealed and covered with our NAMES slapped on them for pick up and go...

So Bow hun..u need to be going off on Chic Fil KKK
right ...the bags are safety sealed...bow wow's bag clearly had a safety seal on it..u can see it

i personally dont want the driver RUMMAGING thru my mess to make sure everything is there
thats the restaurants job to ensure the order is accurate. the driver's part of the process is to go into the place once the food is READY to be PICKED UP and then grab the order....confirming that they have everything.

if anything they can ask if everything is in that sealed bag, but even if they ask,  they have to take the restaurant's word for it if they say yes.

people just dont think before going off...i can understand cuz being HANGRY is a very real thing and u may just black tf owt and throw all logic and reason to the wind

gorls may be too hungry to think straight . sdsddsnsdnsdsn but its super unfair.
Title: Re: "No tip, no trip": Doordash/Uber drivers refusing to pick up orders with no tip
Post by: FAMÈ on February 19, 2022, 01:16:10 PM
Fuck these people. Sometimes I be tipping $3 and the service is TERRIBLE. 
Title: Re: "No tip, no trip": Doordash/Uber drivers refusing to pick up orders with no tip
Post by: Kaeli. on February 19, 2022, 01:22:42 PM
Don't they literally see the tips before they take the order? :dead:
Title: Re: "No tip, no trip": Doordash/Uber drivers refusing to pick up orders with no tip
Post by: klappa. on February 19, 2022, 01:22:50 PM
Quote from: Eh... on February 19, 2022, 12:39:48 PM
Quote from: ophelia_b on February 19, 2022, 12:14:54 PM
Quote from: Eh... on February 19, 2022, 12:05:11 PM
Quote from: Big Barbie on February 19, 2022, 06:06:07 AM
Quote from: Demetri Merrick Rocka 🤴🏾 on February 19, 2022, 06:04:41 AM
Quote from: annie on February 19, 2022, 05:05:28 AM
A tip should be a bonus for good service. Delivery and good quality of food should be guaranteed. It's time for employers to pay their employees instead of counting on costumers to do it for them. Why would I pay a tip if you are late? Why in a restaurant get a big tip if the waiter is giving me an attitude and  the food is cold? A tip should be a reward. I think they should get minimal wage, there need to be good rules about this in the states to make sure people get paid what they deserve.
Periodt!!!

This is a dumb mindset for gig workers like DD, GrubHub, etc... I do door dash sometimes in my free time and almost everything that you mentioned is out of the driver's control. If your food is late how is that the driver's problem? After they accept an order they have a certain timeframe to pick it up and to deliver it and if they take too long it will be unassigned from them and given to another driver. So that means if your food is really late other people either ignored it or the restaurant took too long to make it. I can't help it if your food is an hour+ later than the original delivery time if I just got it and delivered it immediately right after... Same thing applies to if your food is cold. Same thing applies if your order is wrong... We deliver closed/sealed bags we don't know if your order is wrong. The apps literally tell you when people has picked up your food so if it's an hour after it says they picked it up than it might be the driver's fault but other than that it's out of our control. I've delivered something before 3 hours after the original delivery time and the lady was pissed at me and I told her I just got this order I can't help how long it took. She didn't care she still complained about me and gave me a bad rating 🤷🏿‍♂️ after my horrible experiences I just stop caring about customers and just drop food off and go on. My acceptance rate is like 40 percent now bc I decline so many orders and I've seen some people with <10 percent acceptance rates

it's not a dumb mindset, you BOTH have perfectly valid points

yea, a lot of stuff the delivery people can't help as its out of their control but they unfairly get blamed for it, but on the same token all delivery drivers represent the company as a whole so its not really the customer's job to parse and pick out who exactly is to blame for a poor service experience.

it literally falls down to the actual company. they need to hold drivers AND RESTAURANTS accountable more and ALSO give drivers more of an oppurtunity to defend themselvesvagain unfair/unwarranted blame regarding things that are out if their control.

but as far as pay, drivers are paid for every delivery. i tip. i belive in tipping. but uts simply not something thats OWED to you simply because you're doing a job. your PAYCHECK is whats owed to you. my tip is for recognizing great service. period.
That's the thing the driver's can't complain to anyone bc they are not an employee of the company. Rude restaurants and customers can tear us a new one and we can't do anything but decline the orders from that point forward. How does one provide great service when all they do is deliver? I don't even see most of the people I deliver to bc we just leave it at the door and go.

These tik tokers are just doing these posts to go viral at this point bc almost everybody is just declining orders until they feel like one is worth their time. The only people with real complaints are the people who are waiting on their food for extremely long times bc people aren't picking  them up. Unfortunately this issue will never be resolved just like waitresses pay. People are clearly getting paid doing these app or people would've stopped doing them. There's times I can work 30 mins and make a quick $50 and other times I can work 2 hours and only make like $20. I've never understood why gig workers complain about pay seeing that we don't have to take the orders. Nobody is forcing anyone to take these $2.50 20 miles round trip orders yet people go online and complain about them like customers know that's all they'll get paid for delivering their food

exactly !!!!!!!!

you get paid per delivery regardless. some of these delivery drivers acting like if they dont get tipped, they werent paid at ALL. and if the delivery distsnce aint worth your time & effort just don't take it. nothing wrong wit that.

the issue is that everything is so automated. i did delivery at a point and it was like pulling teeth to get someone on the phone for assistance as an employee/contractor

as far as the service aspect, it really comes down to the specific customer understanding what in the drivers control and what isnt. and unfortunately many dont understand that. but also, unfortunately, its not their responsibility to.

like i said earlier, it all comes down to the company needing to holding the restaurants as accountabke as the drivers. if a restaurant promises a certain time the food will be ready and then goes way passed that, they should be penalized.
Title: Re: "No tip, no trip": Doordash/Uber drivers refusing to pick up orders with no tip
Post by: klappa. on February 19, 2022, 01:23:06 PM
Quote from: Kaeli. on February 19, 2022, 01:22:42 PM
Don't they literally see the tips before they take the order? :dead:

no.
Title: Re: "No tip, no trip": Doordash/Uber drivers refusing to pick up orders with no tip
Post by: Annie on February 19, 2022, 02:41:39 PM
I'm not waiting on companies to change I am just saying politicians should make laws about minimum wage. This sounds like a wild Wild West, especially in the USA.
Title: Re: "No tip, no trip": Doordash/Uber drivers refusing to pick up orders with no tip
Post by: klappa. on February 19, 2022, 03:14:38 PM
Quote from: annie on February 19, 2022, 02:41:39 PM
I'm not waiting on companies to change I am just saying politicians should make laws about minimum wage. This sounds like a wild Wild West, especially in the USA.

this is different. the delivery people are contract employeees, so minimum wage does not apply. they get paid per gig. so its honestly as simple as if you're not happy with what you are getting paid by the company you work for, then go work somewhere else.

but again, NONE of this is the consumer's responsibility or concern.
Title: Re: "No tip, no trip": Doordash/Uber drivers refusing to pick up orders with no tip
Post by: 'ology on February 19, 2022, 04:06:47 PM
Quote from: ssw4919 on February 19, 2022, 05:49:27 AM
I tip, and it never dawned on me to not do it.
!!!!!!!
Like.....  :uhh:
Title: Re: "No tip, no trip": Doordash/Uber drivers refusing to pick up orders with no tip
Post by: DopeSoul. on February 19, 2022, 04:15:23 PM
Quote from: 'ology on February 19, 2022, 04:06:47 PM
Quote from: ssw4919 on February 19, 2022, 05:49:27 AM
I tip, and it never dawned on me to not do it.
!!!!!!!
Like.....  :uhh:
VVVVBVVVBVVBVV
Title: Re: "No tip, no trip": Doordash/Uber drivers refusing to pick up orders with no tip
Post by: Purple Moon on February 19, 2022, 04:44:28 PM
things getting heated in here huh

who wants a homemade burger with a side of grilled cheese?
Title: Re: "No tip, no trip": Doordash/Uber drivers refusing to pick up orders with no tip
Post by: JCJ on February 19, 2022, 05:49:37 PM
Quote from: 'ology on February 19, 2022, 04:06:47 PM
Quote from: ssw4919 on February 19, 2022, 05:49:27 AM
I tip, and it never dawned on me to not do it.
!!!!!!!
Like.....  :uhh:


some girls are kinda...ghetto and need to be cooking their own meals
Title: Re: "No tip, no trip": Doordash/Uber drivers refusing to pick up orders with no tip
Post by: b7 on February 22, 2022, 10:35:27 PM
Quote from: Star of Dayquan ✡ on February 18, 2022, 09:54:33 PM
Quote from: Nine on February 18, 2022, 09:48:50 PM
Time for them to stop bitching and get a new job then
they're keepin the same job toots

just leaving the orders with no tips to get cold ...skipping them
and pickin up the orders with a tip included to make sure those customers get their food pipin' hot and fresh


vggfggggggggggggg
Title: Re: "No tip, no trip": Doordash/Uber drivers refusing to pick up orders with no tip
Post by: b7 on February 22, 2022, 10:38:42 PM
Uber eats and doordash and all that mess are super costly. The people in big cities that may not drive get charged so much just to have the food delivered. It's pretty crazy with the tip included but i don't think i'd just flat out not tip them, although i do prefer the idea of tipping after the job has been done.  IF you're able, i say just go pick the shit up ur self.
Title: Re: "No tip, no trip": Doordash/Uber drivers refusing to pick up orders with no tip
Post by: Russian Roulette on February 22, 2022, 10:44:31 PM
Quote from: RIG 7 on February 22, 2022, 10:38:42 PM
Uber eats and doordash and all that mess are super costly. The people in big cities that may not drive get charged so much just to have the food delivered. It's pretty crazy with the tip included but i don't think i'd just flat out not tip them, although i do prefer the idea of tipping after the job has been done.  IF you're able, i say just go pick the shit up ur self.
!!!!

That's why I don't even accept any "I don't got it" excuses

This is a luxury . And If u truly don't have it u shouldn't be spending ur last money on food delivery .

Struggling is not ordering out for food every night or week ... struggling is tryna make packs of ramen noodles and frozen hot dogs last thru the week.

Title: Re: "No tip, no trip": Doordash/Uber drivers refusing to pick up orders with no tip
Post by: b7 on February 22, 2022, 10:46:44 PM
Quote from: Star of Dayquan ✡ on February 19, 2022, 08:15:03 AM
  :uhh: :uhh: :uhh:

(https://uploadir.com/u/fvfm9swz)
not "sorry for the bother" sslslldsldd this polite rapist
Title: Re: "No tip, no trip": Doordash/Uber drivers refusing to pick up orders with no tip
Post by: klappa. on February 23, 2022, 06:26:31 AM
i mean they can't see the tip before hand, i dont know why yall still believing that lol

but basically

any delivery person skipping orders is an idiot taking money out their own pocket.

you. get. paid. per. delivery.

:omf:
Title: Re: "No tip, no trip": Doordash/Uber drivers refusing to pick up orders with no tip
Post by: Russian Roulette on February 23, 2022, 07:42:38 AM
Quote from: ophelia_b on February 23, 2022, 06:26:31 AM
i mean they can't see the tip before hand, i dont know why yall still believing that lol

but basically

any delivery person skipping orders is an idiot taking money out their own pocket.

you. get. paid. per. delivery.

:omf:
we have a DoorDash driver in the thread who confirmed they can tell when customers tip and when they don't before taking an order.

R u gonna argue with him too love

They can def tell if ur not tipping beforehand . so the better question is why do u choose not to believe that?

sfsffssfsfsfsfssfsfsf if it bothers u, just start adding a tip when u order.








Title: Re: "No tip, no trip": Doordash/Uber drivers refusing to pick up orders with no tip
Post by: klappa. on February 23, 2022, 08:15:15 AM
Quote from: Star of Dayquan on February 23, 2022, 07:42:38 AM
Quote from: ophelia_b on February 23, 2022, 06:26:31 AM
i mean they can't see the tip before hand, i dont know why yall still believing that lol

but basically

any delivery person skipping orders is an idiot taking money out their own pocket.

you. get. paid. per. delivery.

:omf:
we have a DoorDash driver in the thread who confirmed they can tell when customers tip and when they don't before taking an order.

R u gonna argue with him too love

They can def tell if ur not tipping beforehand . so the better question is why do u choose not to believe that?

sfsffssfsfsfsfssfsfsf if it bothers u, just start adding a tip when u order.

i did the mess as well babe

i already said if the restaurant puts the delivery reciept on the bag, which they not suppsed to, thats the only thing that shows a tip. otherwise youre just trying to calculate based on what they ordered and the total. and that aint even always accurate cuz the restaurants be hiking up prices in the app all the time.

so yea, i know what im sayin vcvcccvcccv

and like i said, mad people tip AFTER the food is delivered. so EITHER way you slice it, any delivery driver doing this is digging in their own pockets

and i tip 95% of the time tootz 💋
Title: Re: "No tip, no trip": Doordash/Uber drivers refusing to pick up orders with no tip
Post by: klappa. on February 23, 2022, 08:16:28 AM
come to think of it, i ALWAYS only add the tip after (or cash) and i don't have delays lolz

:letsmessfag:
Title: Re: "No tip, no trip": Doordash/Uber drivers refusing to pick up orders with no tip
Post by: JCJ on February 23, 2022, 08:18:21 AM
n


Yeah you definitely don't deliver for Doordash
Title: Re: "No tip, no trip": Doordash/Uber drivers refusing to pick up orders with no tip
Post by: Russian Roulette on February 23, 2022, 08:18:28 AM
also, they're not "idiots" for refusing certain orders

actually the opposite.

they're being STRATEGIC and SMART by waiting for the bigger orders which will produce a bigger coin for their pocket

rolling the dice just a bit and it's actually working for many of them.
driving 10 miles to deliver a $5 order of food to someone who didn't even add a tip isn't very smart.

Title: Re: "No tip, no trip": Doordash/Uber drivers refusing to pick up orders with no tip
Post by: klappa. on February 23, 2022, 08:19:20 AM
Quote from: JCJ on February 23, 2022, 08:18:21 AM
n


Yeah you definitely don't deliver for Doordash

k

👍🏾
Title: Re: "No tip, no trip": Doordash/Uber drivers refusing to pick up orders with no tip
Post by: klappa. on February 23, 2022, 08:23:45 AM
Quote from: Star of Dayquan on February 23, 2022, 08:18:28 AM
also, they're not "idiots" for refusing certain orders

actually the opposite.

they're being STRATEGIC and SMART by waiting for the bigger orders which will produce a bigger coin for their pocket

rolling the dice just a bit and it's actually working for many of them.
driving 10 miles to deliver a $5 order of food to someone who didn't even add a tip isn't very smart.

the size/amount of the order has no bearing on how much they make from the delivety hun. its a flat rate.

like i said.

you. get. paid. per. delivery.
Title: Re: "No tip, no trip": Doordash/Uber drivers refusing to pick up orders with no tip
Post by: Russian Roulette on February 23, 2022, 08:40:33 AM
Ur calling them idiots but ...

they clearly know how to actually work numbers a bit more than u do

it's a bit more complex than "paid per delivery!"

There's cost of gas, time spent , etc . that factor into this

Refusing a no tip $5 food order  for 10 miles so they can grab the next one with a $50 food order and $10 tip for 3 miles is very smart .

They would possibly miss the bigger tip if they spend so much time delivering that non tip 10 mile order. Do I have to break this down even further? I'm not even a dasher and I get it .

They're playing a numbers game.

This "paid per delivery! Stupid to turn some down !" Mess ur saying would only make sense if every trip paid the exact same amount.

The cherry picking game they're playing would def work especially in any busy metro area where orders are not far and in between each other .

Title: Re: "No tip, no trip": Doordash/Uber drivers refusing to pick up orders with no tip
Post by: CHOKE on February 23, 2022, 09:02:03 AM
Quote from: RIG 7 on February 22, 2022, 10:35:27 PM
Quote from: Star of Dayquan ✡ on February 18, 2022, 09:54:33 PM
Quote from: Nine on February 18, 2022, 09:48:50 PM
Time for them to stop bitching and get a new job then
they're keepin the same job toots



vggfggggggggggggg

yhygyygyggttgtggttfftrfrfrfrfrfrfrfrfrfrffrfrfrrffrrcfr
Title: Re: "No tip, no trip": Doordash/Uber drivers refusing to pick up orders with no tip
Post by: klappa. on February 23, 2022, 10:55:57 AM
Quote from: Star of Dayquan on February 23, 2022, 08:40:33 AM
Ur calling them idiots but ...

they clearly know how to actually work numbers a bit more than u do

it's a bit more complex than "paid per delivery!"



every trip DOES pay the exact same amount, i just said this

:omf: :omf: :omf:

again, they get a BASE pay per delivery, doesn't matter if the order is 5 dollars or 50. and a bigger order does NOT mean a bigger or tip, or tip at all. trust me. again, i did this.

so while these girls are picking and choosing which orders to take and crying on social media for tips, the gorls like me were taking every order in my VACINITY. THAT'S the strategy. cuz tip or not, my base stacked up and my checks were CUTE. never had to take to tiktok fuming about tips.

so yea, i'm def not the one who needs help figuring out the numbers lolz

:letsmessfag:
Title: Re: "No tip, no trip": Doordash/Uber drivers refusing to pick up orders with no tip
Post by: Russian Roulette on February 23, 2022, 11:14:17 AM
Oph they get a total of what their earnings will be for the trip INCLUDING TIP before taking the order

you have someone who is CURRENTLY a part of the dash system telling us how it works and ur telling us about ur experience as a PREVIOUS dasher 

systems, features  and platforms do change 

So its best we take the word of a current dasher 
Like the ones in recent YouTube videos and the one in this thread 

fnnfnfnfnf :disgusted:
Title: Re: "No tip, no trip": Doordash/Uber drivers refusing to pick up orders with no tip
Post by: Russian Roulette on February 23, 2022, 11:16:50 AM
And there could very well be good tipping jobs within a vicinity

sometimes I order from places that are like 5-10 blocks away from me but that doesn't mean I tip them less

jfjfjfjfdjfjjfdjjf

of course they're gonna prefer and take that order over someone who is tipping 0 and asking they travel 20 miles for a delivery. It's a good tea with less time spent getting it .

does that not make sense?

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/c1/3a/2b/c13a2b2e10855bffdc014f121c5eff7e.jpg)

Title: Re: "No tip, no trip": Doordash/Uber drivers refusing to pick up orders with no tip
Post by: United Nations Barbie 🇺🇳 on February 23, 2022, 11:29:44 AM
Quote from: There's Sum Bout Choke on February 23, 2022, 09:02:03 AM
Quote from: RIG 7 on February 22, 2022, 10:35:27 PM
Quote from: Star of Dayquan ✡ on February 18, 2022, 09:54:33 PM
Quote from: Nine on February 18, 2022, 09:48:50 PM
Time for them to stop bitching and get a new job then
they're keepin the same job toots



vggfggggggggggggg

yhygyygyggttgtggttfftrfrfrfrfrfrfrfrfrfrffrfrfrrffrrcfr
nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnbnnnn
Title: Re: "No tip, no trip": Doordash/Uber drivers refusing to pick up orders with no tip
Post by: United Nations Barbie 🇺🇳 on February 23, 2022, 11:30:11 AM
Nine was slaughtered in this bitch.
Title: Re: "No tip, no trip": Doordash/Uber drivers refusing to pick up orders with no tip
Post by: klappa. on February 23, 2022, 12:23:07 PM
Quote from: Star of Dayquan on February 23, 2022, 11:14:17 AM
Oph they get a total of what their earnings will be for the trip INCLUDING TIP before taking the order

you have someone who is CURRENTLY a part of the dash system telling us how it works and ur telling us about ur experience as a PREVIOUS dasher

systems, features  and platforms do change

So its best we take the word of a current dasher
Like the ones in recent YouTube videos and the one in this thread

fnnfnfnfnf :disgusted:

literally none of this negates anything i just said

cvvvccvvvvv sis read the mess and THEN formulate a response

:plzstop: :uhh:
Title: Re: "No tip, no trip": Doordash/Uber drivers refusing to pick up orders with no tip
Post by: klappa. on February 23, 2022, 12:25:42 PM
Quote from: Star of Dayquan on February 23, 2022, 11:16:50 AM
And there could very well be good tipping jobs within a vicinity

sometimes I order from places that are like 5-10 blocks away from me but that doesn't mean I tip them less

jfjfjfjfdjfjjfdjjf

of course they're gonna prefer and take that order over someone who is tipping 0 and asking they travel 20 miles for a delivery. It's a good tea with less time spent getting it .

does that not make sense?

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/c1/3a/2b/c13a2b2e10855bffdc014f121c5eff7e.jpg)

again, NONE of this negates anything i just said.  :plzstop:

my point was i was taking orders in my vicinity, so (again) tip or not i could complete a bunch of deliveries and that base added tf uhp.

vbvvbcvvvv just in here arguing to argue

:omf:
Title: Re: "No tip, no trip": Doordash/Uber drivers refusing to pick up orders with no tip
Post by: Russian Roulette on February 23, 2022, 12:32:33 PM
ok luv
Title: Re: "No tip, no trip": Doordash/Uber drivers refusing to pick up orders with no tip
Post by: klappa. on February 23, 2022, 12:35:44 PM
thnk Gd

luv u bby
Title: Re: "No tip, no trip": Doordash/Uber drivers refusing to pick up orders with no tip
Post by: RAY7 on February 23, 2022, 12:44:22 PM
Only in America does this debate happen because it's embarrassing to be poor
and these companies marketing is all about making these things affordable and low priced. So broke ppl will stretch their pennies just to be able to cover the product they're purchasing to seem on par with the ppl who can afford to tip. 
Title: Re: "No tip, no trip": Doordash/Uber drivers refusing to pick up orders with no tip
Post by: Russian Roulette on February 23, 2022, 12:54:21 PM
I don't even think it's about being poor

if ur truly struggling u def don't have coins to be ordering out for dinner

youre somewheree in ur kitchen making or heating up struggle food frozen like hot dogs or ramen noodles.

there are people who legit go out to restaurants as well ... order everything on the menu - surf, turf, murf lurf  and tip 0 dollars

thats Not poor . And I'd be offended if I were poor/struggling and people were saying thats poor . That's inconsiderate, selfish and disrespectful.

And possibly living beyond their means. But not poor.

Title: Re: "No tip, no trip": Doordash/Uber drivers refusing to pick up orders with no tip
Post by: RAY7 on February 23, 2022, 01:11:58 PM
Quote from: Star of Dayquan on February 23, 2022, 12:54:21 PM
I don't even think it's about being poor

if ur truly struggling u def don't have coins to be ordering out for dinner

youre somewheree in ur kitchen making or heating up struggle food frozen like hot dogs or ramen noodles.

there are people who legit go out to restaurants as well ... order everything on the menu - surf, turf, murf lurf  and tip 0 dollars

thats Not poor . And I'd be offended if I were poor/struggling and people were saying thats poor . That's inconsiderate, selfish and disrespectful.

And possibly living beyond their means. But not poor.
there's definitely some of the ramen noodles crew doing this though. Any extra $5 they have and they wanna order a pizza, and they only focus on paying the restaurant for the food and not the service person because it's not mandatory and they think the restaurant is paying them anyway. Ppl want luxury even if they can't afford it
Title: Re: "No tip, no trip": Doordash/Uber drivers refusing to pick up orders with no tip
Post by: Russian Roulette on February 23, 2022, 01:18:48 PM
Quote from: RAY7 on February 23, 2022, 01:11:58 PM
Quote from: Star of Dayquan on February 23, 2022, 12:54:21 PM
I don't even think it's about being poor

if ur truly struggling u def don't have coins to be ordering out for dinner

youre somewheree in ur kitchen making or heating up struggle food frozen like hot dogs or ramen noodles.

there are people who legit go out to restaurants as well ... order everything on the menu - surf, turf, murf lurf  and tip 0 dollars

thats Not poor . And I'd be offended if I were poor/struggling and people were saying thats poor . That's inconsiderate, selfish and disrespectful.

And possibly living beyond their means. But not poor.
there's definitely some of the ramen noodles crew doing this though. Any extra $5 they have and they wanna order a pizza, and they only focus on paying the restaurant for the food and not the service person because it's not mandatory and they think the restaurant is paying them anyway. Ppl want luxury even if they can't afford it
thats true but there are legit people who pride themselves on not tipping wait staff

I'm talking about the people who even go to restaurants and order a smorgasbord of mess and tip 0 to 75 cents

Jffnnfnfnfnndndndn

And legit think it's cute Or something to brag about


Title: Re: "No tip, no trip": Doordash/Uber drivers refusing to pick up orders with no tip
Post by: RAY7 on February 23, 2022, 01:21:23 PM
Quote from: Star of Dayquan on February 23, 2022, 01:18:48 PM
Quote from: RAY7 on February 23, 2022, 01:11:58 PM
Quote from: Star of Dayquan on February 23, 2022, 12:54:21 PM
I don't even think it's about being poor

if ur truly struggling u def don't have coins to be ordering out for dinner

youre somewheree in ur kitchen making or heating up struggle food frozen like hot dogs or ramen noodles.

there are people who legit go out to restaurants as well ... order everything on the menu - surf, turf, murf lurf  and tip 0 dollars

thats Not poor . And I'd be offended if I were poor/struggling and people were saying thats poor . That's inconsiderate, selfish and disrespectful.

And possibly living beyond their means. But not poor.
there's definitely some of the ramen noodles crew doing this though. Any extra $5 they have and they wanna order a pizza, and they only focus on paying the restaurant for the food and not the service person because it's not mandatory and they think the restaurant is paying them anyway. Ppl want luxury even if they can't afford it
thats true but there are legit people who pride themselves on not tipping wait staff

I'm talking about the people who even go to restaurants and order a smorgasbord of mess and tip 0 to 75 cents

Jffnnfnfnfnndndndn

And legit think it's cute Or something to brag about
yea that's just ignorant. I would hope that's the minority of ppl though because I don't think anyone would co-sign that behavior
Title: Re: "No tip, no trip": Doordash/Uber drivers refusing to pick up orders with no tip
Post by: Russian Roulette on February 23, 2022, 01:27:38 PM
I think people who live beyond their means with these services is another conversation in itself .

this is more for the whole "I never tip lolz :justabit: " crowd and how that's gonna start biting them in the ass.