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Title: Male R&B
Post by: ssw4919 on February 19, 2022, 06:44:19 PM
Stole this from lipstickalley.  Where'd the male love songs go?  From the niggas?   :omgwatshappening:

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This is something I've noticed in the past few years, but that Ne-Yo thread solidified it for me. We have Ed Sheeran, Harry Styles, and even Justin Bieber representing the love songs for the white guys and they are dominating the radio with their love songs. I mean not a summer goes by without at least one of them dropping either a ballad like "Perfect" or a bop like "Watermelon Sugar", but when is the last time you can recall black men en masse having love songs on the radio? Not "I fucked your bitch! She sucked my dick". R&B doesn't even have love songs like that anymore.

I mean "Perfect" by Ed Sheeran is a masterpiece. The last black male artist with a song like that is probably John Legend with "All of Me."

Lil Nas X "Someone to Love Me" is one on the radio now, but is his music in the "urban" category? It's all so nebulous, but even if he is, he is the only one on the radio right now with a love song.
Title: Re: Male R&B
Post by: L0NZ. on February 19, 2022, 07:04:15 PM
This person said named 3 White artists, then asked why aren't Black male artists making love songs "en masse." Also, I hope this person got ate up over there because this is inaccurate on the basis of which artists get pushed and are the most popular. Male R&B artists DO make love songs and they can be found on their albums but not the radio. Sounds like the problem is why are the record labels pushing "nigga! bitch! sex!" songs to Black radio. 
Title: Re: Male R&B
Post by: Purple Moon on February 19, 2022, 07:12:21 PM
Giveon just to name one. Also ,,Perfect" is as basic as it gets. And what's wrong with songs about sex? 
Title: Re: Male R&B
Post by: oph. on February 19, 2022, 07:14:44 PM
Quote from: L0NZ. on February 19, 2022, 07:04:15 PM
This person said named 3 White artists, then asked why aren't Black male artists making love songs "en masse." Also, I hope this person got ate up over there because this is inaccurate on the basis of which artists get pushed and are the most popular. Male R&B artists DO make love songs and they can be found on their albums but not the radio. Sounds like the problem is why are the record labels pushing "nigga! bitch! sex!" songs to Black radio.
Title: Re: Male R&B
Post by: ssw4919 on February 19, 2022, 08:28:20 PM
Quote from: L0NZ. on February 19, 2022, 07:04:15 PM
Sounds like the problem is why are the record labels pushing "nigga! bitch! sex!" songs to Black radio.

Exactly.
Title: Re: Male R&B
Post by: Kaeli. on February 19, 2022, 08:59:17 PM
I agree that Mainstream male R&B artists aren't pulling their weight when it comes to great albums like the girls are, but Jacquees (ew), YK Osiris, Daniel Caesar, Silk Sonic, Giveon, Tory Lanez, Yung Bleu etc have all had smash love songs in the last few years. Chris' "No Guidance" was a massive hit for 2 consecutive years :dead: 

Is she asking why they don't make stripped piano & acoustic ballads? ...Because the love songs are there  :udontlookok: 
Title: Re: Male R&B
Post by: Purple Moon on February 19, 2022, 09:14:43 PM
Quote from: Kaeli. on February 19, 2022, 08:59:17 PM
I agree that Mainstream male R&B artists aren't pulling their weight when it comes to great albums like the girls are, but Jacquees (ew), YK Osiris, Daniel Caesar, Silk Sonic, Giveon, Tory Lanez, Yung Bleu etc have all had smash love songs in the last few years. Chris' "No Guidance" was a massive hit for 2 consecutive years :dead:

Is she asking why they don't make stripped piano & acoustic ballads? ...Because the love songs are there  :udontlookok:
!!!
Title: Re: Male R&B
Post by: oph. on February 19, 2022, 09:29:37 PM
Quote from: BrandySavedMyLife on February 19, 2022, 09:14:43 PM
Quote from: Kaeli. on February 19, 2022, 08:59:17 PM
I agree that Mainstream male R&B artists aren't pulling their weight when it comes to great albums like the girls are, but Jacquees (ew), YK Osiris, Daniel Caesar, Silk Sonic, Giveon, Tory Lanez, Yung Bleu etc have all had smash love songs in the last few years. Chris' "No Guidance" was a massive hit for 2 consecutive years :dead:

Is she asking why they don't make stripped piano & acoustic ballads? ...Because the love songs are there  :udontlookok:
!!!

vvvvvvccc yea

she just has a preference. SORRY sis, we all miss the 90's mess but dont get on here and lie  :omf:
Title: Re: Male R&B
Post by: FRANCE on February 19, 2022, 09:44:10 PM
I think people just need to accept the fact that music has changed. And is not meant to stay the same. In the 90s, our parents/grandparents probably wanted that doo-wop, motown sound back, but it just aint eva coming back. 
Title: Re: Male R&B
Post by: RAY7 on February 20, 2022, 08:01:23 AM
Sounds like a white person who only listens to Z100 to me. If he/she looks on the R&B section of Tidal, Apple Music or Spotify there's plenty of love songs or even try playing a Black radio station 
Title: Re: Male R&B
Post by: Nine on February 20, 2022, 08:38:16 AM
Quote from: Kaeli. on February 19, 2022, 08:59:17 PM
I agree that Mainstream male R&B artists aren't pulling their weight when it comes to great albums like the girls are, but Jacquees (ew), YK Osiris, Daniel Caesar, Silk Sonic, Giveon, Tory Lanez, Yung Bleu etc have all had smash love songs in the last few years. Chris' "No Guidance" was a massive hit for 2 consecutive years :dead:

Is she asking why they don't make stripped piano & acoustic ballads? ...Because the love songs are there  :udontlookok:
not "No Guidance"
Title: Re: Male R&B
Post by: Nine on February 20, 2022, 08:39:50 AM
But yeah black music is in the gutter.

I blame Hip hop and the record labels.
Title: Re: Male R&B
Post by: Harlem on February 20, 2022, 09:12:44 AM
Daniel Caesar has been thriving off of love songs, his love singles are still playing on radio & a part of the R&B playlists on streaming services
Title: Re: Male R&B
Post by: Demetri Collier Electronics 🤴🏾 on February 20, 2022, 10:54:31 AM
Quote from: Nine on February 20, 2022, 08:39:50 AM
But yeah black music is in the gutter.

I blame Hip hop and the record labels.
!!!!
Title: Re: Male R&B
Post by: Barbie Dangerous on February 20, 2022, 10:57:22 AM
Quote from: Harlem on February 20, 2022, 09:12:44 AM
Daniel Caesar has been thriving off of love songs, his love singles are still playing on radio & a part of the R&B playlists on streaming services
Yes but his popularity should be far greater, maybe that's what the op meant?
Title: Re: Male R&B
Post by: FAMÈ on February 20, 2022, 11:33:51 AM
Quote from: Nine on February 20, 2022, 08:39:50 AM
But yeah black music is in the gutter.

I blame Hip hop and the record labels.
Title: Re: Male R&B
Post by: Barbie Dangerous on February 20, 2022, 11:38:32 AM
Quote from: ᴴᴼᵀᴾᴵᴺᴷ on February 20, 2022, 11:33:51 AM
Quote from: Nine on February 20, 2022, 08:39:50 AM
But yeah black music is in the gutter.

I blame Hip hop and the record labels.
Title: Re: Male R&B
Post by: L0NZ. on February 21, 2022, 10:59:36 AM
I dont think the male artists themselves are responsible for their popularity. There's too many other factors that go into that. But I'm literally listening to the radio right now and "Woman" by Stokley sounds like a love song. he's not popular but...... Black male artists make love songs. 
Title: Re: Male R&B
Post by: Gilgamesh. on February 21, 2022, 11:16:45 AM
This is broad generalisation. I can think of plenty of male R&B singers that make love songs :uhh:
Title: Re: Male R&B
Post by: Young on February 21, 2022, 11:21:23 AM
https://youtu.be/hLpAZ8_BZS4
Title: Re: Male R&B
Post by: L0NZ. on February 21, 2022, 11:28:09 AM
nn
Title: Re: Male R&B
Post by: RAY7 on February 21, 2022, 11:29:14 AM
Well prove the OP right then Young 
Title: Re: Male R&B
Post by: Barbie Dangerous on February 21, 2022, 11:43:16 AM
Quote from: L0NZ. on February 21, 2022, 10:59:36 AM
I dont think the male artists themselves are responsible for their popularity. There's too many other factors that go into that.
Definitely!
Title: Re: Male R&B
Post by: Nine on February 21, 2022, 11:54:11 AM
Quote from: Young on February 21, 2022, 11:21:23 AM
https://youtu.be/hLpAZ8_BZS4
yeah mess like this is the problem with black music today

thanks for summing it up with this example
Title: Re: Male R&B
Post by: Young on February 21, 2022, 12:16:56 PM
HITfy is my mess

King Chris can take us to the clubs

Or give us a SUBSTANCE mess

https://youtu.be/r7CWEE3ZAWs
Title: Re: Male R&B
Post by: ssw4919 on February 21, 2022, 02:07:05 PM
Quote from: RAY7 on February 20, 2022, 08:01:23 AM
Sounds like a white person who only listens to Z100 to me. If he/she looks on the R&B section of Tidal, Apple Music or Spotify there's plenty of love songs or even try playing a Black radio station

Any hit records among them?  I think that's what they meant.
Title: Re: Male R&B
Post by: RAY7 on February 21, 2022, 03:55:40 PM
Quote from: ssw4919 on February 21, 2022, 02:07:05 PM
Quote from: RAY7 on February 20, 2022, 08:01:23 AM
Sounds like a white person who only listens to Z100 to me. If he/she looks on the R&B section of Tidal, Apple Music or Spotify there's plenty of love songs or even try playing a Black radio station

Any hit records among them?  I think that's what they meant.
hits on the urban charts? Yes
Hits on the level of Ed Sheeran and Harry Styles of course not. But they said: "R&B doesn't even have love songs like that anymore"

Which is a lie
Title: Re: Male R&B
Post by: ssw4919 on February 21, 2022, 04:38:49 PM
What songs are hits?

Being honest.  I don't listen to the radio.
Title: Re: Male R&B
Post by: Scott. on February 21, 2022, 05:54:28 PM
Quote from: ssw4919 on February 21, 2022, 02:07:05 PM
Quote from: RAY7 on February 20, 2022, 08:01:23 AM
Sounds like a white person who only listens to Z100 to me. If he/she looks on the R&B section of Tidal, Apple Music or Spotify there's plenty of love songs or even try playing a Black radio station

Any hit records among them?  I think that's what they meant.

Boom! That's exactly what he was saying