he basically took to twitter to post a link to "hebrews to negroes" - which is basically one of those hotep movies claiming that black people are the "original jews" , and the movie also claims that the holocaust is some sort of made up event that never happened. (trailer below)
many are calling it "anti-semitic", while others in his defense are saying he's posting "the truth"
i personally don't feel like he was/is being intentionally hateful and harmful. i don't think his end goal or message was "kill the jews!" . but instead he just strongly believes in and subscribes to something that is totally wrong, and totally not fact-based in any way.
That movie features a completely made up fairytale that erases and rewrites the real, fact based, science confirmed history of Africans we descend from and morphs them into "egyptians!" , "israelites!" - which in itself is offensive. and in addition to that, dismissing real life consequences of Jewish people who existed in the era of the Holocaust and eras slightly before/after that - many of whom who I know for a fact fled their home countries in Eastern Europe to America - most likely just to avoid being killed.
I don't think Kyrie is evil or trying to hurt anyone. I just think he strongly believes in something that is not true and he needs to be better educated and informed. He has a right to his beliefs but if I knew him, I'd encourage him to open himself up to the possibility that, based on facts, what he believes may not be real.
https://twitter.com/BleacherReport/status/1588693911291441152
https://twitter.com/SaraEisen/status/1588689457703956487
here's the trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1rzH9j-RB4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NkmhJkWA_8
Kyrie is always in mess because he's a big conspiracy theorist. He believes that earth is flat, and he also was against the Covid vaccines. This is just the latest conspiracy that he's into. But this is the worst because he is playing in a league that is literally run by a Jewish man :plzstop:
This hotep mess is really spreading and I HATE it. I literally had to listen to my cousin/barber saying our ancestors "bowed down" to the white ppl and said if all the slaves really fought back that slavery wouldn't have lasted as long
:gorlonfire:
Quote from: RAY7 on November 05, 2022, 11:30:11 PMKyrie is always in mess because he's a big conspiracy theorist. He believes that earth is flat, and he also was against the Covid vaccines. This is just the latest conspiracy that he's into. But this is the worst because he is playing in a league that is literally run by a Jewish man :plzstop:
i just read about the covid and flat earth mess as i was looking more into him
all things considered, as i learn more about him as a person, it seems like he loves being edgy and against the grain. very "yeah i said it! come get meh!"
whether that's his intention or not .
but he may wanna rethink this hotep mess.
if u gonna stand on something as a huge celeb at least let it be fact based and real. stand up for black people and our REAL history and struggles. stand up for our women and what they face.
leave this foolery to the losers who have nothing better to do than make up these extraordinarily elaborate stories. it's a complete waste of ur influence to entertain it and play in it.
don't be out here risking it all for some fairytale.
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Quote from: RAY7 on November 05, 2022, 11:33:40 PMThis hotep mess is really spreading and I HATE it. I literally had to listen to my cousin/barber saying our ancestors "bowed down" to the white ppl and said if all the slaves really fought back that slavery wouldn't have lasted as long
:gorlonfire:
a lot of the hotep mess is actually VERY disrespectful to our african ancestors IMO as it revises and even completely erases their identities and where they came from.
and as u mentioned here, even goes as far as finger pointing at them as if we know what it feels like to be physically enslaved . the nerve of him giving some "oh boy i woulda!!!" speech.
u should have politely and informatively dragged the shit out of him.
........after he finished ur line up tea. sfsffssfsfsfsfsf
He lost me at the " Holocaust never happened" when there is irrefutable evidence of Hitler's regime and the suffering the Jews endured in concentration camps. He's a fool and I'm glad he's getting dragged.
This is sad but unsurprising. :melmel:
A growing number of black men believe in these conspiracy theories, a lot of which are adjacent to right wing foolishness that white folks have been pushing for many years. So unfortunately, it tracks that black men are the largest block of our race that supports and votes for conservatives. The kanye's of the world are not isolated. A lot of rappers and celeb black men were all inside Trump's ass during the 2020 election.
It's also about wanting money and power. Hoteps are actually the ones that need to wake tf up.
Quote from: Saint on November 06, 2022, 01:56:46 AMHe lost me at the " Holocaust never happened" when there is irrefutable evidence of Hitler's regime and the suffering the Jews endured in concentration camps. He's a fool and I'm glad he's getting dragged.
to be fair, he never actually said it never happened himself , but the documentary he posted def throws that in there .
But this is what happens when u just share a link to something without any sort of disclaimer or notes about how u feel on some or all of its contents .
It's a
complete co-sign . Whether u want it to be or not . There's plenty of room for people to reasonably conclude that you subscribe to and are actually promoting everything presented in what you shared.
He's now apologized
My heart kinda feels some type of way to see a black man having to backpedal on something he may truly believe in .
If he truly believes in something involving the community , why wouldn't he be passionate enough to put it out there in hopes of informing others?
He says "I can't be antisemitic when I know where I come from". And I could be wrong, but I feel that is coming from his heart . I think he may honestly believe there was an identity stolen and he is reclaiming it .
It's just unfortunate that what he believes in is definitely not true at all. And not only is it not true , it can easily be seen as dismissive and even blatantly disrespectful towards a very hurtful, very real history that others hold very close to their hearts .
Impact will always override intent .
I can see and understand all sides of this , but the facts are just not on Kyries side .
https://www.instagram.com/p/Ckmv4uJMOYi/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
Quote from: RAY7 on November 06, 2022, 07:42:33 AMhttps://www.instagram.com/p/Ckmv4uJMOYi/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
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The Jews are so annoying. Not a fuckin checklist.
Quote from: RAY7 on November 06, 2022, 07:42:33 AMhttps://www.instagram.com/p/Ckmv4uJMOYi/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
and after all that he'll still believe what he believes
Fnfnfnfbnfnf
meet with the Jews !
he needs to be meeting with black people who can educate and inform him . Or even better , black people of actual jewish heritage.
And I don't even think that would help cuz that hotep mess runs deep.
But Every word from those old ass Jewish men will DEFINITELY be going in one ear and out the other .
:omf:
Hope king just does what he needs to do to keep his bag for his family . This to-do list is a joke if it's real. And pointless
Ebros half-Jewish self has kinda picked a side in this
I totally agree with him. Someone simply believing something wholeheartedly isn't automatically intentional hatred and malice. Even if what they believe may be technically incorrect and/or historically inaccurate.
That's why my heart is with Kyrie. These are his beliefs , I don't think he's trolling and I honestly don't think he's out to hurt anyone.
https://twitter.com/oldmanebro/status/1588266063535697920
Quote from: Cartierline on November 06, 2022, 07:51:53 AMQuote from: RAY7 on November 06, 2022, 07:42:33 AMhttps://www.instagram.com/p/Ckmv4uJMOYi/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
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The Jews are so annoying. Not a fuckin checklist.
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Quote from: RAY7 on November 06, 2022, 07:42:33 AMhttps://www.instagram.com/p/Ckmv4uJMOYi/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
Dnndnfnf
Not a to do list
Where's the video of that older black woman in a wheelchair screaming, "Am I supposed to feel sorry for her?!? Because I don't!"
Quote from: Justice Jackson on November 06, 2022, 03:53:17 AMThis is sad but unsurprising. :melmel:
A growing number of black men believe in these conspiracy theories, a lot of which are adjacent to right wing foolishness that white folks have been pushing for many years. So unfortunately, it tracks that black men are the largest block of our race that supports and votes for conservatives. The kanye's of the world are not isolated. A lot of rappers and celeb black men were all inside Trump's ass during the 2020 election.
It's also about wanting money and power. Hoteps are actually the ones that need to wake tf up.
!!!
Like someone said before, a lot of Black men don't want equality. They want the same privilege/power White men have.
Quote from: RAY7 on November 06, 2022, 07:42:33 AMhttps://www.instagram.com/p/Ckmv4uJMOYi/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
It'll be interesting to see how bigotry in the league is handled in the future. I hope they realize they're setting a standard with this.
Edit. Oops lol
tyler made this post in the midst of all the mess
one side of me smiles because i know for a fact that black and jewish relations existed. they def found common ground with one another and even started families together.
but the other side of me cant help but to side eye king as much as i love him
labeling everything that's going on as "hate" when it can actually be lack of education and information. (at least in kyrie's case. considering his mess was nowhere as blatant as kanye)
i can appreciate the story tho as it is beautiful
https://www.instagram.com/p/CkZY5YaPweS/
Yea Tyler is just trying to kiss ass so they don't come for him
Quote from: RAY7 on November 06, 2022, 05:36:03 PMYea Tyler is just trying to kiss ass so they don't come for him
it def comes off as " i aint with those niggas at ALL. lemme make it crystal clear"
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love king to pieces but its ok to just be quiet if ur not able to see more than one side of things
Quote from: RAY7 on November 06, 2022, 07:42:33 AMhttps://www.instagram.com/p/Ckmv4uJMOYi/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
He was dumb for posting it
But I dont like this. They never make THEM do all this to get back in their good graces :-/
A part of me is hoping he bulks at doing any of this list except apologize. :uhh:
Quote from: Ｂｏｏｍｚ on November 06, 2022, 06:00:59 PMQuote from: RAY7 on November 06, 2022, 07:42:33 AMhttps://www.instagram.com/p/Ckmv4uJMOYi/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
He was dumb for posting it
But I dont like this. They never make THEM do all this to get back in their good graces :-/
A part of me is hoping he bulks at doing any of this list except apologize. :uhh:
And the repercussions for hate-speech against Black people has neverrr been this serious :uhh:
While I don't agree with all of this, this is the energy I need BLM to have.
Shaq calling Kyrie an "idiot" and saying he feels obligated to give an explanation for his actions :udontlookok:
kyrie may be misinformed and technically incorrect but at least he's speaking on his own behalf and what he believes is true.
shaq clearly PROPPED up there tap dancing and giving a "he makin us look bad so i am here as the official negro spokesperson! " speech that im pretty sure no black people asked him to give.
its ok to disagree but to sit up and call him names....grow tf up and get a backbone.
https://twitter.com/RaspyRawls/status/1587941921842163712
Quote from: Gilgamesh. on November 06, 2022, 06:43:35 PMQuote from: Ｂｏｏｍｚ on November 06, 2022, 06:00:59 PMQuote from: RAY7 on November 06, 2022, 07:42:33 AMhttps://www.instagram.com/p/Ckmv4uJMOYi/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
He was dumb for posting it
But I dont like this. They never make THEM do all this to get back in their good graces :-/
A part of me is hoping he bulks at doing any of this list except apologize. :uhh:
And the repercussions for hate-speech against Black people has neverrr been this serious :uhh:
thats because unfortunately we are not in any positions to do anything to anyone these ppl are shading their bosses and company owners etc
Like if you're gonna be outspoken and edgy it can't be from a platform that can easily be taken away