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Title: Idris Elba: “I am not a Black actor”
Post by: The Only BLACK Kalmyks on February 12, 2023, 03:32:35 PM
this is pure mess

He's gone to Twitter to explain where he's coming from with the statement but the gorls are tearing him to shreds

https://twitter.com/cnn/status/1624023273733324802

https://twitter.com/idriselba/status/1624445115224686592
Title: Re: Idris Elba: “I am not a Black actor”
Post by: The Only BLACK Kalmyks on February 12, 2023, 03:38:10 PM
He's definitely wrong in comparing being an actor to an architect - especially in terms of race.

Acting is one industry where your race/ethnicity can actually be a deciding factor on whether you get a job and it's perfectly legal

As in, someone can say "I'm looking for a Black male lead actor for this movie  " and it makes sense because it's a STORY being told and the persons race/ethnicity plays a huge part in the VISION of the story.

However , hiring someone as a marketing executive .... Only thing that should matter is their skill and experience with marketing .

Same for architecture - which is the example he used  . I don't know the race of the person and people who built the building I live in. But I know it was built well, it hasn't  collapsed on me since I've been here and that's all that matters . They were skilled.

He clearly hasn't thought this through and/ or has a very difficult time articulating the reasoning behind  his statements .

Title: Re: Idris Elba: “I am not a Black actor”
Post by: Buy The Stars✨ on February 12, 2023, 03:41:40 PM
meh.  i get what he was trying to say he just misspoke a bit. i hate black twitter sometimes. always quick to drag and tear someone down. let this BLACK king slide.
Title: Re: Idris Elba: “I am not a Black actor”
Post by: Barbie Dangerous on February 12, 2023, 03:45:28 PM
Quote from: Buy The Stars✨ on February 12, 2023, 03:41:40 PMmeh.  i get what he was trying to say he just misspoke a bit. i hate black twitter sometimes. always quick to drag and tear someone down. let this BLACK king slide.
Title: Re: Idris Elba: “I am not a Black actor”
Post by: Barbie Dangerous on February 12, 2023, 03:45:58 PM
And he can slide his non-black actor penis inside of me.
Title: Re: Idris Elba: “I am not a Black actor”
Post by: The Only BLACK Kalmyks on February 12, 2023, 03:57:20 PM
I think a lot of people are having flashbacks to days of "I'm not Black, I'm OJ."

It's one of those things where even if this person means no harm at all .. which in this case I don't think Idris means any harm and doesn't need to be crucified...

There is a history of people doing and saying these things with a lot of anti-black underlining ...

 OJ Simpson probably being the most famous example .

I'm not personally outraged but i can understand the side eyes and knee jerk reactions to the comment .
Title: Re: Idris Elba: “I am not a Black actor”
Post by: Buy The Stars✨ on February 12, 2023, 04:09:22 PM
Quote from: Big Barbie on February 12, 2023, 03:45:58 PMAnd he can slide his non-black actor penis inside of me.

DEATH !  :plzstop:
i love the way he speaks.  i normally hate British accents cause all of them sound CORNY AF but his voice is just different i love it
Title: Re: Idris Elba: “I am not a Black actor”
Post by: Buy The Stars✨ on February 12, 2023, 04:10:38 PM
Quote from: Rio de Atlanta on February 12, 2023, 03:57:20 PMI think a lot of people are having flashbacks to days of "I'm not Black, I'm OJ."

It's one of those things where even if this person means no harm at all .. which in this case I don't think Idris means any harm and doesn't need to be crucified...

There is a history of people doing and saying these things with a lot of anti-black underlining ...

 OJ Simpson probably being the most famous example .

I'm not personally outraged but i can understand the side eyes and knee jerk reactions to the comment .

not everyone is OJ though. does young black twitter even know who OJ is?  i havent even seen the comments but im sure  all of them are going to the extreme with it
Title: Re: Idris Elba: “I am not a Black actor”
Post by: The Only BLACK Kalmyks on February 12, 2023, 04:18:27 PM
Quote from: Buy The Stars✨ on February 12, 2023, 04:10:38 PM
Quote from: Rio de Atlanta on February 12, 2023, 03:57:20 PMI think a lot of people are having flashbacks to days of "I'm not Black, I'm OJ."

It's one of those things where even if this person means no harm at all .. which in this case I don't think Idris means any harm and doesn't need to be crucified...

There is a history of people doing and saying these things with a lot of anti-black underlining ...

 OJ Simpson probably being the most famous example .

I'm not personally outraged but i can understand the side eyes and knee jerk reactions to the comment .

not everyone is OJ though. does young black twitter even know who OJ is?  i havent even seen the comments but im sure  all of them are going to the extreme with it
yes everyone isn't OJ which is what I kinda said in the post u just quoted.

But sometimes it's about understanding why people react to things a certain way luv. Just Adding one or two more dimensions to our thinking

OJ is one example but it's not unheard of in general.

"Girlfriends" even had an episode where they touched on it . Like literally touched on this Idris situation specifically lol

Joan's famous actor boyfriend at the time was getting dragged by Maya for being spotted in an interview saying "stop calling me a black actor, I'm just an actor"

With maya saying: "like there's something soooo wrong about being called a black actor! 🙄 😡 "

Joan's boyfriend was later dragged more in the episode by two other girls at a poetry reading where they basically used their poetry to  call him a coon and a sell out.

So it's not just bored twitter gorls ... some people may genuinely be offended . I'm not personally offended  but I get those who are.
Title: Re: Idris Elba: “I am not a Black actor”
Post by: Nine on February 12, 2023, 04:27:18 PM
I get where he was going, but clearly the thought wasn't fully formed yet.
Title: Re: Idris Elba: “I am not a Black actor”
Post by: Ulysses on February 12, 2023, 04:27:52 PM
I understand what he is saying. Can't be mad at that
Title: Re: Idris Elba: “I am not a Black actor”
Post by: Pearls Khan on February 12, 2023, 04:37:10 PM
Damns. Keep beatin Fro's ass in here guys

 :woohoo:
Title: Re: Idris Elba: “I am not a Black actor”
Post by: The Only BLACK Kalmyks on February 12, 2023, 04:48:04 PM
heres the episode

4:30

Maya takes offense to Joan's boyfriend pulling an Idris

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaRSkNzYJH0
Title: Re: Idris Elba: “I am not a Black actor”
Post by: The Only BLACK Kalmyks on February 12, 2023, 04:48:19 PM
Quote from: Pearls Khan on February 12, 2023, 04:37:10 PMDamns. Keep beatin Fro's ass in here guys

 :woohoo:
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Title: Re: Idris Elba: “I am not a Black actor”
Post by: The Only BLACK Kalmyks on February 12, 2023, 04:56:34 PM
Quote from: Nine on February 12, 2023, 04:27:18 PMI get where he was going, but clearly the thought wasn't fully formed yet.
!!!

i dont think he saw this backlash coming at all

but idris is not from america so i think thats why

snsdjnsdjnsjdnjnsdjnsdjsdnsds

i def think that Will or Samuel or Denzel definitely woulda known better

even if they felt a certain way and had the best/most innocent intentions behind their thoughts , they'd be highly aware of what the perception and reaction would be from african-americans once they put certain things out in the open.

so they'd leave certain tea in their drafts.

Title: Re: Idris Elba: “I am not a Black actor”
Post by: Buy The Stars✨ on February 12, 2023, 05:05:26 PM
Quote from: Rio de Atlanta on February 12, 2023, 04:18:27 PM
Quote from: Buy The Stars✨ on February 12, 2023, 04:10:38 PM
Quote from: Rio de Atlanta on February 12, 2023, 03:57:20 PMI think a lot of people are having flashbacks to days of "I'm not Black, I'm OJ."

It's one of those things where even if this person means no harm at all .. which in this case I don't think Idris means any harm and doesn't need to be crucified...

There is a history of people doing and saying these things with a lot of anti-black underlining ...

 OJ Simpson probably being the most famous example .

I'm not personally outraged but i can understand the side eyes and knee jerk reactions to the comment .

not everyone is OJ though. does young black twitter even know who OJ is?  i havent even seen the comments but im sure  all of them are going to the extreme with it
yes everyone isn't OJ which is what I kinda said in the post u just quoted.

But sometimes it's about understanding why people react to things a certain way luv. Just Adding one or two more dimensions to our thinking

OJ is one example but it's not unheard of in general.

"Girlfriends" even had an episode where they touched on it . Like literally touched on this Idris situation specifically lol

Joan's famous actor boyfriend at the time was getting dragged by Maya for being spotted in an interview saying "stop calling me a black actor, I'm just an actor"

With maya saying: "like there's something soooo wrong about being called a black actor! 🙄 😡 "

Joan's boyfriend was later dragged more in the episode by two other girls at a poetry reading where they basically used their poetry to  call him a coon and a sell out.

So it's not just bored twitter gorls ... some people may genuinely be offended . I'm not personally offended  but I get those who are.
Your last sentence is my issue. Ppl are just looking for stuff to get offended by  . I'm over it
Title: Re: Idris Elba: “I am not a Black actor”
Post by: Boomz on February 12, 2023, 09:17:46 PM
Did y'all see what John Boyega said?


https://twitter.com/johnboyega/status/1624057588257026048

King kinda ate my other King right uhp
Title: Re: Idris Elba: “I am not a Black actor”
Post by: The Only BLACK Kalmyks on February 12, 2023, 09:45:22 PM
Quote from: Boomz on February 12, 2023, 09:17:46 PMDid y'all see what John Boyega said?


https://twitter.com/johnboyega/status/1624057588257026048

King kinda ate my other King right uhp
he makes perfect sense.

it's almost as if idris feels the "black" prefix is some sort of handicap that he brought upon himself and can reverse by himself

thats not the way it works.

if there's an objective behind this all, he's windmilling at the wrong thing. the conversation needs to be on creating more space and opportunity for black actors

which is why tyler always holds a special place in my heart. regardless of how people feel about the quality of his work, he was employing a lot of these Black actors at a time when it wasn't trendy to do it for movies, etc.


Title: Re: Idris Elba: “I am not a Black actor”
Post by: Stunna Gor’ on February 12, 2023, 10:54:47 PM
Yea, I get what he's trying to say. He's not being anti black.. but he probably should've known this wasn't gonna be received well. Sdddccddd

I think he's saying he just doesn't want his opportunities and accomplishments limited. As others said, it's obviously a much more complicated conversation than just that... but yea, I think that's simply just all he was trying to say.
Title: Re: Idris Elba: “I am not a Black actor”
Post by: L0NZ. on February 13, 2023, 08:48:55 AM
Quote from: Georgina Sparks on February 12, 2023, 10:54:47 PMYea, I get what he's trying to say. He's not being anti black.. but he probably should've known this wasn't gonna be received well. Sdddccddd

I think he's saying he just doesn't want his opportunities and accomplishments limited. As others said, it's obviously a much more complicated conversation that just that... but yea, I think that's simply just all he was trying to say.