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Title: Trans woman wins Miss Netherlands beauty pageant
Post by: stillpretty on July 09, 2023, 04:31:50 PM
and the gorls are pissed

https://twitter.com/evavlaar/status/1677976646148554753

https://twitter.com/saucycarletto/status/1678059442737127425
Title: Re: Trans woman wins Miss Netherlands beauty pageant
Post by: CHOKE on July 09, 2023, 04:48:14 PM
I came in expecting a gorgeous ass gal
Title: Re: Trans woman wins Miss Netherlands beauty pageant
Post by: oph. on July 09, 2023, 05:31:41 PM
Quote from: CHOKE on July 09, 2023, 04:48:14 PMI came in expecting a gorgeous ass gal

bcccccccccccccvv

she really is giving bill hader  :dead:
Title: Re: Trans woman wins Miss Netherlands beauty pageant
Post by: stillpretty on July 09, 2023, 05:33:24 PM
im all for inclusion but if ur gonna include the gorls, treat them the same.

even with them being partially blurred behind her i can CLEARLY see those women are way prettier

maybe there were categories in this mess which weighed way more heavily in scoring than actual beauty

Title: Re: Trans woman wins Miss Netherlands beauty pageant
Post by: Nine on July 09, 2023, 06:27:18 PM
I feel like they set her up. She's not cute at all.
Title: Re: Trans woman wins Miss Netherlands beauty pageant
Post by: oph. on July 09, 2023, 06:30:29 PM
well... to be FAIR... the winners ain't always cute lol

now if i find out she did power-lifting or sumn as her talent, imma have a problem
Title: Re: Trans woman wins Miss Netherlands beauty pageant
Post by: Nine on July 09, 2023, 06:36:47 PM
https://twitter.com/wallstreetsilv/status/1678030027084922880?

Actually yeah the finalists weren't cute either

Shit
Title: Re: Trans woman wins Miss Netherlands beauty pageant
Post by: Barbie Dangerous on July 09, 2023, 06:38:34 PM
https://twitter.com/downclowndc/status/1678041125725036546

BBBBBBBBBBBBVVVVVVVVVV

 :guys:
Title: Re: Trans woman wins Miss Netherlands beauty pageant
Post by: stillpretty on July 09, 2023, 06:46:33 PM
Quote from: Nine on July 09, 2023, 06:36:47 PMhttps://twitter.com/wallstreetsilv/status/1678030027084922880?

Actually yeah the finalists weren't cute either

Shit
habiba and chanille are def pretty

nathalie looks pretty. nazeli looks pretty

there are some pretty girls here IMO

but the winner def doesn't look alone in her trans-ness here.

im questioning a couple others

fsfssfsffss

Title: Re: Trans woman wins Miss Netherlands beauty pageant
Post by: CHOKE on July 09, 2023, 06:49:54 PM
See, ion like this

They set this girl up

There are some truly gorgeous trans girls who will never get this kind of press
Title: Re: Trans woman wins Miss Netherlands beauty pageant
Post by: stillpretty on July 09, 2023, 06:55:01 PM
here are closer pics.

habiba fuckin eats. no way she should have won over her if this is about beauty.
chanille looks gorgeous too

nathalie almost looks unreal.

but i have to say in this line up the winner doesnt stick out like a sore thumb
a lot of them here (the white ones) def have edgy, unconventional  looks.

(https://www.angelopedia.com/newspic/AKV8FJUDPTnetherland.jpg)
Title: Re: Trans woman wins Miss Netherlands beauty pageant
Post by: JCJ on July 09, 2023, 07:02:34 PM
Quote from: share my world on July 09, 2023, 06:46:33 PM
Quote from: Nine on July 09, 2023, 06:36:47 PMhttps://twitter.com/wallstreetsilv/status/1678030027084922880?

Actually yeah the finalists weren't cute either

Shit
habiba and chanille are def pretty

nathalie looks pretty. nazeli looks pretty

there are some pretty girls here IMO

but the winner def doesn't look alone in her trans-ness here.

im questioning a couple others

fsfssfsffss



The one on the far right look more masculine than she do
Title: Re: Trans woman wins Miss Netherlands beauty pageant
Post by: stillpretty on July 09, 2023, 07:03:49 PM
Quote from: JCJ on July 09, 2023, 07:02:34 PM
Quote from: share my world on July 09, 2023, 06:46:33 PM
Quote from: Nine on July 09, 2023, 06:36:47 PMhttps://twitter.com/wallstreetsilv/status/1678030027084922880?

Actually yeah the finalists weren't cute either

Shit
habiba and chanille are def pretty

nathalie looks pretty. nazeli looks pretty

there are some pretty girls here IMO

but the winner def doesn't look alone in her trans-ness here.

im questioning a couple others

fsfssfsffss



The one on the far right look more masculine than she do
ffenfenefnefnefnefnfen

jamie lee curtis been eatin her wheaties
Title: Re: Trans woman wins Miss Netherlands beauty pageant
Post by: Buy The Stars✨ on July 09, 2023, 07:28:22 PM
Quote from: CHOKE on July 09, 2023, 04:48:14 PMI came in expecting a gorgeous ass gal
!!!!!

i was really thought i was gonna see gigi gorgeous type or something.  this guy isnt cute at all.
Title: Re: Trans woman wins Miss Netherlands beauty pageant
Post by: Buy The Stars✨ on July 09, 2023, 07:29:45 PM
Quote from: share my world on July 09, 2023, 06:55:01 PMhere are closer pics.

habiba fuckin eats. no way she should have won over her if this is about beauty.
chanille looks gorgeous too

nathalie almost looks unreal.

but i have to say in this line up the winner doesnt stick out like a sore thumb
a lot of them here (the white ones) def have edgy, unconventional  looks.

(https://www.angelopedia.com/newspic/AKV8FJUDPTnetherland.jpg)

the bottom middle is kinda giving a white nene or am i trippin  :plzstop:
Title: Re: Trans woman wins Miss Netherlands beauty pageant
Post by: Buy The Stars✨ on July 09, 2023, 07:30:33 PM
Quote from: share my world on July 09, 2023, 06:55:01 PMhere are closer pics.

habiba fuckin eats. no way she should have won over her if this is about beauty.
chanille looks gorgeous too

nathalie almost looks unreal.

but i have to say in this line up the winner doesnt stick out like a sore thumb
a lot of them here (the white ones) def have edgy, unconventional  looks.

(https://www.angelopedia.com/newspic/AKV8FJUDPTnetherland.jpg)

she looks better here.  the winning picture is just a bad one
Title: Re: Trans woman wins Miss Netherlands beauty pageant
Post by: oph. on July 09, 2023, 07:33:24 PM
Quote from: Buy The Stars✨ on July 09, 2023, 07:29:45 PM
Quote from: share my world on July 09, 2023, 06:55:01 PMhere are closer pics.

habiba fuckin eats. no way she should have won over her if this is about beauty.
chanille looks gorgeous too

nathalie almost looks unreal.

but i have to say in this line up the winner doesnt stick out like a sore thumb
a lot of them here (the white ones) def have edgy, unconventional  looks.

(https://www.angelopedia.com/newspic/AKV8FJUDPTnetherland.jpg)

the bottom middle is kinda giving a white nene or am i trippin  :plzstop:

no, it's giving DOUG
Title: Re: Trans woman wins Miss Netherlands beauty pageant
Post by: stillpretty on July 09, 2023, 07:34:43 PM
yall r outta fuckin control
Title: Re: Trans woman wins Miss Netherlands beauty pageant
Post by: L0NZ. on July 09, 2023, 07:53:55 PM
Quote from: ivorian oph on July 09, 2023, 07:33:24 PM
Quote from: Buy The Stars✨ on July 09, 2023, 07:29:45 PM
Quote from: share my world on July 09, 2023, 06:55:01 PMhere are closer pics.

habiba fuckin eats. no way she should have won over her if this is about beauty.
chanille looks gorgeous too

nathalie almost looks unreal.

but i have to say in this line up the winner doesnt stick out like a sore thumb
a lot of them here (the white ones) def have edgy, unconventional  looks.

(https://www.angelopedia.com/newspic/AKV8FJUDPTnetherland.jpg)

the bottom middle is kinda giving a white nene or am i trippin  :plzstop:

no, it's giving DOUG

pre op tamar
Title: Re: Trans woman wins Miss Netherlands beauty pageant
Post by: Boomz on July 09, 2023, 08:50:49 PM
Quote from: ivorian oph on July 09, 2023, 07:33:24 PM
Quote from: Buy The Stars✨ on July 09, 2023, 07:29:45 PM
Quote from: share my world on July 09, 2023, 06:55:01 PMhere are closer pics.

habiba fuckin eats. no way she should have won over her if this is about beauty.
chanille looks gorgeous too

nathalie almost looks unreal.

but i have to say in this line up the winner doesnt stick out like a sore thumb
a lot of them here (the white ones) def have edgy, unconventional  looks.

(https://www.angelopedia.com/newspic/AKV8FJUDPTnetherland.jpg)

the bottom middle is kinda giving a white nene or am i trippin  :plzstop:

no, it's giving DOUG

Smsmdndnnkksisksks
S

I went back and looked and screamed bitch
It's given exactly that snnn
Title: Re: Trans woman wins Miss Netherlands beauty pageant
Post by: Hatsumomo on July 09, 2023, 08:59:08 PM
Right if it's gonna win let it at least be a cute one.
Title: Re: Trans woman wins Miss Netherlands beauty pageant
Post by: BAPHOMET. on July 10, 2023, 04:02:56 AM
This is horrible. Like... horrible.
Title: Re: Trans woman wins Miss Netherlands beauty pageant
Post by: stillpretty on July 10, 2023, 07:28:50 AM
Quote from: Buy The Stars✨ on July 09, 2023, 07:29:45 PM
Quote from: share my world on July 09, 2023, 06:55:01 PMhere are closer pics.

habiba fuckin eats. no way she should have won over her if this is about beauty.
chanille looks gorgeous too

nathalie almost looks unreal.

but i have to say in this line up the winner doesnt stick out like a sore thumb
a lot of them here (the white ones) def have edgy, unconventional  looks.

(https://www.angelopedia.com/newspic/AKV8FJUDPTnetherland.jpg)

the bottom middle is kinda giving a white nene or am i trippin  :plzstop:
def givin the botched version of nene

And she's kinda givin me Avatar teas
Title: Re: Trans woman wins Miss Netherlands beauty pageant
Post by: Kalifornia. on July 10, 2023, 12:00:54 PM
No shade, but trans gorls need their own competition.

It's kinda fucked up that they're being propped up and winning in spaces meant for women. I can see why some feel like the trans gorls are encroaching on them a bit.
Title: Re: Trans woman wins Miss Netherlands beauty pageant
Post by: oph. on July 10, 2023, 01:32:36 PM
Quote from: Kalifornia. on July 10, 2023, 12:00:54 PMNo shade, but trans gorls need their own competition.

It's kinda fucked up that they're being propped up and winning in spaces meant for women. I can see why some feel like the trans gorls are encroaching on them a bit.
Title: Re: Trans woman wins Miss Netherlands beauty pageant
Post by: Barbie Dangerous on July 10, 2023, 01:36:26 PM
https://twitter.com/luxxtheeicon/status/1677380995455262720

While we're on subject, what was wrong with what Lance said?? It's one thing if you wanna eliminate ALL categories but if you're hellbent on male/female categories, it's unfair to group trans women with cis women..
Title: Re: Trans woman wins Miss Netherlands beauty pageant
Post by: Nine on July 10, 2023, 01:43:07 PM
Quote from: ivorian oph on July 10, 2023, 01:32:36 PM
Quote from: Kalifornia. on July 10, 2023, 12:00:54 PMNo shade, but trans gorls need their own competition.

It's kinda fucked up that they're being propped up and winning in spaces meant for women. I can see why some feel like the trans gorls are encroaching on them a bit.
Title: Re: Trans woman wins Miss Netherlands beauty pageant
Post by: Nine on July 10, 2023, 01:47:51 PM
Quote from: Big Barbie on July 10, 2023, 01:36:26 PMhttps://twitter.com/luxxtheeicon/status/1677380995455262720

While we're on subject, what was wrong with what Lance said?? It's one thing if you wanna eliminate ALL categories but if you're hellbent on male/female categories, it's unfair to group trans women with cis women..
He shoulda kinda HUSH with his doping self

Although I agree
Title: Re: Trans woman wins Miss Netherlands beauty pageant
Post by: Nine on July 10, 2023, 01:49:38 PM
I've seen women say they feel like the message they're seeing is "men are better at being women than a woman"

and I could kinda see why they would think that

No shade to my trans girls
Title: Re: Trans woman wins Miss Netherlands beauty pageant
Post by: Stunna Gor’ on July 10, 2023, 02:16:09 PM
Quote from: CHOKE on July 09, 2023, 04:48:14 PMI came in expecting a gorgeous ass gal
NDJJDJDJJSNJDNNSRNNWNENNEENENDNSNSDNDNNDNDE

!!!!!!!! I just....
Title: Re: Trans woman wins Miss Netherlands beauty pageant
Post by: Stunna Gor’ on July 10, 2023, 02:16:30 PM
But edge! Progressive!
Title: Re: Trans woman wins Miss Netherlands beauty pageant
Post by: JCJ on July 10, 2023, 03:04:37 PM
lots of transphobia in here
Title: Re: Trans woman wins Miss Netherlands beauty pageant
Post by: Cartierline on July 10, 2023, 03:42:04 PM

Quote from: JCJ on July 10, 2023, 03:04:37 PMlots of transphobia in here
and for good reason.

:unbothered:
Title: Re: Trans woman wins Miss Netherlands beauty pageant
Post by: Purple Moon on July 10, 2023, 03:42:50 PM
Quote from: Nine on July 10, 2023, 01:49:38 PMI've seen women say they feel like the message they're seeing is "men are better at being women than a woman"

and I could kinda see why they would think that

No shade to my trans girls

r they
Title: Re: Trans woman wins Miss Netherlands beauty pageant
Post by: Barbie Dangerous on July 10, 2023, 03:46:30 PM
Quote from: JCJ on July 10, 2023, 03:04:37 PMlots of transphobia in here
Just the way I like it.

 :heythere:
Title: Re: Trans woman wins Miss Netherlands beauty pageant
Post by: JCJ on July 10, 2023, 03:55:07 PM
[afro]y'all are outta fucking control[/afro]
Title: Re: Trans woman wins Miss Netherlands beauty pageant
Post by: Boomz on July 10, 2023, 04:06:23 PM
Quote from: Nine on July 10, 2023, 01:49:38 PMI've seen women say they feel like the message they're seeing is "men are better at being women than a woman"

and I could kinda see why they would think that

No shade to my trans girls

Paranoia

Less than 1% of people identify as Trans. And that includes trans men

Do they think it's enough of them to takeover the role of cisgendered women in society?

The message is INCLUSION. That's it
Title: Re: Trans woman wins Miss Netherlands beauty pageant
Post by: ❄️☃️🌨� Shuji Feels Different 🌨�☃️❄️ on July 10, 2023, 04:17:28 PM
Fuck the trans. This is my position and I'm standing on it.

 :overit:
Title: Re: Trans woman wins Miss Netherlands beauty pageant
Post by: Summertime on July 10, 2023, 04:19:01 PM
Trans women need their own events & sports teams. It's unfair for women to have to compete against them especially in sports.
Title: Re: Trans woman wins Miss Netherlands beauty pageant
Post by: stillpretty on July 10, 2023, 04:22:28 PM
Quote from: JCJ on July 10, 2023, 03:55:07 PM[afro]y'all are outta fucking control[/afro]
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Title: Re: Trans woman wins Miss Netherlands beauty pageant
Post by: Kalifornia. on July 10, 2023, 04:32:09 PM
I've seen a lot of women pushing back on the 'cis' thing. They aren't with the idea of hyphenating their womanhood.
Title: Re: Trans woman wins Miss Netherlands beauty pageant
Post by: stillpretty on July 10, 2023, 04:34:00 PM
Quote from: Kalifornia. on July 10, 2023, 04:32:09 PMI've seen a lot of women pushing back on the 'cis' thing. They aren't with the idea of hyphenating their womanhood.
its offensive .

I'm a woman not your good cis
Title: Re: Trans woman wins Miss Netherlands beauty pageant
Post by: oph. on July 10, 2023, 04:45:55 PM
Quote from: Kalifornia. on July 10, 2023, 04:32:09 PMI've seen a lot of women pushing back on the 'cis' thing. They aren't with the idea of hyphenating their womanhood.

!!!!!!

like, why they gotta add an EXTRA mess just so you don't feel sub-categorized. and what's so damn scary about the title "trans-woman"? it's what tf you ARE. it's starting to feel like may of them view THEMSELVES as less than and feel the need to hold the title of just "woman" in order to feel like societal equals or something.
Title: Re: Trans woman wins Miss Netherlands beauty pageant
Post by: Ulysses on July 10, 2023, 11:42:36 PM
Trans women are actually in a disadvantage for something like this. I can understand people wanting to ban trans women from competing in women's sports for obvious reasons, but a trans woman is DEFINITELY at a disadvantage in a competition such as this.

I honestly think in THIS particular situation, they used her as a "look! We are all about equality!" to set an example.

But really, who gives a FUCK about these competitions? :dead:
Title: Re: Trans woman wins Miss Netherlands beauty pageant
Post by: oph. on July 11, 2023, 03:47:34 AM
Quote from: Boomz on July 10, 2023, 04:06:23 PM
Quote from: Nine on July 10, 2023, 01:49:38 PMI've seen women say they feel like the message they're seeing is "men are better at being women than a woman"

and I could kinda see why they would think that

No shade to my trans girls

Paranoia

Less than 1% of people identify as Trans. And that includes trans men

Do they think it's enough of them to takeover the role of cisgendered women in society?

The message is INCLUSION. That's it

well that 1% been snatching crowns and sports trophies, so yea i see their concern

and no. trans women shouldn't be INCLUDED with women because they aren't women. they are trans women. and that's okay. and for women, i dont think it's about taking over their role. it's moreso about taking over their SPACES.

women have and will experience things that no trans woman ever will. they are not the same.

and again, that's okay.
Title: Re: Trans woman wins Miss Netherlands beauty pageant
Post by: Hatsumomo on July 11, 2023, 07:09:24 AM
Quote from: Kalifornia. on July 10, 2023, 12:00:54 PMNo shade, but trans gorls need their own competition.

It's kinda fucked up that they're being propped up and winning in spaces meant for women. I can see why some feel like the trans gorls are encroaching on them a bit.
Title: Re: Trans woman wins Miss Netherlands beauty pageant
Post by: Stunna Gor’ on July 11, 2023, 08:41:44 AM
Quote from: Cartierline on July 10, 2023, 03:42:04 PM
Quote from: JCJ on July 10, 2023, 03:04:37 PMlots of transphobia in here
and for good reason.

:unbothered:
Title: Re: Trans woman wins Miss Netherlands beauty pageant
Post by: AfroJisiac on July 12, 2023, 07:00:07 AM
am sorry but ... the girl aint...cute to the point where she's takin' that crown home ... ch...
Title: Re: Trans woman wins Miss Netherlands beauty pageant
Post by: JCJ on July 12, 2023, 09:19:27 AM
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Title: Re: Trans woman wins Miss Netherlands beauty pageant
Post by: oph. on July 12, 2023, 09:29:32 AM
Quote from: AfroJisiac on July 12, 2023, 07:00:07 AMam sorry but ... the girl aint...cute to the point where she's takin' that crown home ... ch...
Title: Re: Trans woman wins Miss Netherlands beauty pageant
Post by: Boomz on July 12, 2023, 09:38:47 AM
(https://bsehexam.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/Rikkie.png)


 :receipts:
Title: Re: Trans woman wins Miss Netherlands beauty pageant
Post by: Boomz on July 12, 2023, 09:39:08 AM
EXOTICALS!
Title: Re: Trans woman wins Miss Netherlands beauty pageant
Post by: Boomz on July 12, 2023, 09:41:38 AM
Laugh lines kinda age her but QUEEN ate in her younger days

(https://cultweb.it/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/Rikkie-Valerie-Kolle-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Trans woman wins Miss Netherlands beauty pageant
Post by: Boomz on July 12, 2023, 09:41:57 AM
Is it young Tyra?!

 :omgwatshappening:
Title: Re: Trans woman wins Miss Netherlands beauty pageant
Post by: stillpretty on July 12, 2023, 09:53:56 AM
She looks like a white Russian / Slav

Def doesn't look like your average white person

But still clearly white

A lot of those white contestants  have edgy/ethnic looks

But that's not too surprising .. Netherlands/Dutch is a lil different from a place like England 
Title: Re: Trans woman wins Miss Netherlands beauty pageant
Post by: ❄️☃️🌨� Shuji Feels Different 🌨�☃️❄️ on July 12, 2023, 12:08:14 PM
Quote from: AfroJisiac on July 12, 2023, 07:00:07 AMam sorry but ... the girl aint...cute to the point where she's takin' that crown home ... ch...

Period :usuresis:
Title: Re: Trans woman wins Miss Netherlands beauty pageant
Post by: oph. on July 12, 2023, 12:11:45 PM
Quote from: ShujiRella🔥🥵 on July 12, 2023, 12:08:14 PM
Quote from: AfroJisiac on July 12, 2023, 07:00:07 AMam sorry but ... the girl aint...cute to the point where she's takin' that crown home ... ch...

Period :usuresis:

nmnbbvcvbcbcvbbvc

and those other pics posted solidified it
Title: Re: Trans woman wins Miss Netherlands beauty pageant
Post by: Boomz on July 12, 2023, 12:55:38 PM
fdssssssssssssssssssss

She TOOK the crown, hun

Das THAT!
 :cheerup:
Title: Re: Trans woman wins Miss Netherlands beauty pageant
Post by: Barbie Dangerous on July 12, 2023, 01:23:07 PM
Quote from: Boomz on July 12, 2023, 09:41:38 AMLaugh lines kinda age her but QUEEN ate in her younger days

(https://cultweb.it/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/Rikkie-Valerie-Kolle-1.jpg)
Wai Kwee!

She might not be too photogenic anymore so maybe she still gives this in person, hence the win.
Title: Re: Trans woman wins Miss Netherlands beauty pageant
Post by: Boomz on July 12, 2023, 03:03:39 PM
!!!

Was thinking the same. I googled her name and she's not ugly AT ALL. She could be a convincing high fashion model

Especially since theses foreign designers love an androgynous, "is she or isn't?" mess anyway
 :plzstop:

This would be a non-story if she wasn't trans
Title: Re: Trans woman wins Miss Netherlands beauty pageant
Post by: oph. on July 12, 2023, 03:23:35 PM
Quote from: Boomz on July 12, 2023, 03:03:39 PMThis would be a non-story if she wasn't trans

DUH

 :omf:
Title: Re: Trans woman wins Miss Netherlands beauty pageant
Post by: Boomz on July 12, 2023, 03:49:50 PM
Fagg
Quote from: ivorian oph on July 12, 2023, 03:23:35 PM
Quote from: Boomz on July 12, 2023, 03:03:39 PMThis would be a non-story if she wasn't trans

DUH

 :omf:
Fagg I'm sick of you

Y'all were saying she didn't deserve cause she AIN'T CUTE! If she looked the same and was cisgendered and won, ya'll wouldn't be foaming at the mouth, like I said

 :hmph:
Title: Re: Trans woman wins Miss Netherlands beauty pageant
Post by: 𝖘𝖖𝖚𝖎𝖉 on July 12, 2023, 04:09:48 PM
Quote from: Ulysses on July 10, 2023, 11:42:36 PMBut really, who gives a FUCK about these competitions? :dead:
!!!

The last time anyone gave a fuck about a beauty pageant was in 2015, and that's only cause Steve Harvey said the wrong name.
Gimme a break with this faux uproar. Nothing is being taken away from cisgendered women.
Title: Re: Trans woman wins Miss Netherlands beauty pageant
Post by: oph. on July 12, 2023, 04:28:15 PM
Quote from: Boomz on July 12, 2023, 03:49:50 PMFagg
Quote from: ivorian oph on July 12, 2023, 03:23:35 PM
Quote from: Boomz on July 12, 2023, 03:03:39 PMThis would be a non-story if she wasn't trans

DUH

 :omf:
Fagg I'm sick of you

Y'all were saying she didn't deserve cause she AIN'T CUTE! If she looked the same and was cisgendered and won, ya'll wouldn't be foaming at the mouth, like I said

 :hmph:

bvvvvvvvv

yea hun we said that and meant it

that has nothing to do with this only being a story cuz she's trans

if she was woman who wasn't cute, we'd have the same energy. it just wouldn't be a STORY
Title: Re: Trans woman wins Miss Netherlands beauty pageant
Post by: stillpretty on July 12, 2023, 04:34:09 PM
Quote from: 𝖘𝖖𝖚𝖎𝖉 on July 12, 2023, 04:09:48 PM
Quote from: Ulysses on July 10, 2023, 11:42:36 PMBut really, who gives a FUCK about these competitions? :dead:
!!!

The last time anyone gave a fuck about a beauty pageant was in 2015, and that's only cause Steve Harvey said the wrong name.
Gimme a break with this faux uproar. Nothing is being taken away from cisgendered women.
i think this recent event simply lends itself to a larger conversation about trans women entering ciswomen's spaces

especially when it comes to things like sports where cis women have spent their lives training, only to have someone who is inherently stronger by nature to come in and establish new standards and records in said sport which ultimately affect the women who were born women.

its a very real and valid argument which is backed by biology/science.

it doesn't necessarily JUST have to be about this very specific instance guys
of course being born a man would typically be a handicap in a woman's beauty contest.
not an upper hand.

sfsfsfsf

but i can def see someone thinking "damn they're even getting pity/woke prizes at the pageants now, in addition to everything else they're involved in! 🙄"

this is more so the icing on the cake rather than the cake itself.