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What were the ratings for BFV at its peak?
I'm tryna see sumn...
Similar to the Nene conversation of how she felt she should have as much money as Kim. Not to take anything from the Kardashians but are the Braxton and RHOA not more entertaining than the Kardashians?
Another toxic and delusional bitch
While I don't think WeTV or Bravo's audience is as large—I do think Braxtons for example should be much bigger and more financially well off from the show and the several seasons it had
Quote from: Kalifornia. on August 04, 2023, 12:31:08 PMWhat were the ratings for BFV at its peak?
I'm tryna see sumn...
I don't think they broke 3 million viewers. Once again she doesn't know what she's talking about
Quote from: Young on August 04, 2023, 12:46:50 PMWhile I don't think WeTV or Bravo's audience is as large—I do think Braxtons for example should be much bigger and more financially well off from the show and the several seasons it had
But if the people aren't really watching the show.. how tf can you justify paying them large salaries
tamar is delusional.
kardashians played THE SOCIAL MEDIA GAME. the end. they became influencers on a massive scale and monetized that in a way none of these other gors have. tamar thinks she deserves the same solely off the strength of her last name. and why nene's snout is being mentioned at all, i have no clue.
Quote from: Young on August 04, 2023, 12:46:50 PMWhile I don't think WeTV or Bravo's audience is as large—I do think Braxtons for example should be much bigger and more financially well off from the show and the several seasons it had
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I'm not understanding why this is hard to comprehend. Do we not always talk about how black people have limitless talent yet white people can do the bare minimum and reap maximum results?
no shade to Toni but she was a female R&B singer of certain age, the show was on WeTV
Their audience and show was never going to be as the KUWTK
I need her to be for real
Quote from: Nine on August 04, 2023, 12:54:38 PMno shade to Toni but she was a female R&B singer of certain age, the show was on WeTV
Their audience and show was never going to be as the KUWTK
I need her to be for real
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kardashians appeal to a younger, more easily influenced demographic that go out and BUY shit. companies and networks are willing to pay a lot of money for that influence.
I think RHOA at its peak is debatable, cause the ratings and cultural impact was on par with The Kardashians imo; But no shade, BFV was not as popular as either of those shows.
Quote from: Young on August 04, 2023, 12:46:50 PMWhile I don't think WeTV or Bravo's audience is as large—I do think Braxtons for example should be much bigger and more financially well off from the show and the several seasons it had
Them being more financial well off comes down to a) how much they negotiated b) how big they're audience is, which you yourself admitted is smaller...
I get the sentiment here but I don't think BFV is a good example.
I've never watched a full episode of BFV but the point is they had the talent/content to be bigger, no?
Quote from: Big Barbie on August 04, 2023, 01:07:04 PMI've never watched a full episode of BFV but the point is they had the talent/content to be bigger, no?
But they're not "bigger" because they had a smaller audience. That's not the networks fault, matter fact WeTV gave BFV and that Mary Mary show a big push.
I wish Tamar would just say what it really is, she and her sisters are waaay more talented and she wishes and wishes she could leverage her talent for coin the way Kim has leveraged Her pretty privilege and fame.
I kind of get her and Nene's point. It's similar with black actresses are routinely paid lower than their white counterparts even someone like Viola who said she doesn't make as much as Meryl Streep.
Quote from: Gilgamesh. on August 04, 2023, 01:11:37 PMQuote from: Big Barbie on August 04, 2023, 01:07:04 PMI've never watched a full episode of BFV but the point is they had the talent/content to be bigger, no?
But they're not "bigger" because they had a smaller audience. That's not the networks fault, matter fact WeTV gave BFV and that Mary Mary show a big push.
I wish Tamar would just say what it really is, she and her sisters are waaay more talented and she wishes and wishes she could leverage her talent for coin the way Kim has leveraged Her pretty privilege and fame.
Not saying it's because of audience scope but yea. I hear what she's saying without fully saying it.
Quote from: Big Barbie on August 04, 2023, 01:07:04 PMI've never watched a full episode of BFV but the point is they had the talent/content to be bigger, no?
And yet they weren't. What do your slow ass be talking about :plzstop:
Quote from: JCJ on August 04, 2023, 01:14:47 PMQuote from: Big Barbie on August 04, 2023, 01:07:04 PMI've never watched a full episode of BFV but the point is they had the talent/content to be bigger, no?
And yet they weren't. What do your slow ass be talking about :plzstop:
FUCKING BLACK TALENT NOT GETTING THEIR DUES.
Damn. How was that unclear? :uhh:
Quote from: Gilgamesh. on August 04, 2023, 01:11:37 PMQuote from: Big Barbie on August 04, 2023, 01:07:04 PMI've never watched a full episode of BFV but the point is they had the talent/content to be bigger, no?
But they're not "bigger" because they had a smaller audience. That's not the networks fault, matter fact WeTV gave BFV and that Mary Mary show a big push.
I wish Tamar would just say what it really is, she and her sisters are waaay more talented and she wishes and wishes she could leverage her talent for coin the way Kim has leveraged Her pretty privilege and fame.
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Quote from: Gilgamesh. on August 04, 2023, 01:11:37 PMQuote from: Big Barbie on August 04, 2023, 01:07:04 PMI've never watched a full episode of BFV but the point is they had the talent/content to be bigger, no?
But they're not "bigger" because they had a smaller audience. That's not the networks fault, matter fact WeTV gave BFV and that Mary Mary show a big push.
I wish Tamar would just say what it really is, she and her sisters are waaay more talented and she wishes and wishes she could leverage her talent for coin the way Kim has leveraged Her pretty privilege and fame.
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Honestly Tamar lucky Toni agreed to do this show at all because without her name attached there would be no Braxton Family Values. Toni only did this because of the guilt she felt for becoming a successful artist and leaving her sisters and family behind.
Can someone please provide where I said the Braxtons have less money simply because they didn't have the same audience?
Quote from: Big BarbieThe Braxton's have less money simply because they didn't have the audience
The one thing I didn't understand/agree with is didn't BFV come out after Kardashians?
I remember them being out in like 07 I thought
None the less BFV had several successful seasons—I wish they were being compensated appropriately.
For example the show is on streaming and I wonder if they're getting their fair share
Quote from: Nine on August 04, 2023, 01:26:32 PMQuote from: Big BarbieThe Braxton's have less money simply because they didn't have the audience
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GODni is loaded :ohwow:
Quote from: Young on August 04, 2023, 02:07:35 PMThe one thing I didn't understand/agree with is didn't BFV come out after Kardashians?
I remember them being out in like 07 I thought
None the less BFV had several successful seasons—I wish they were being compensated appropriately.
For example the show is on streaming and I wonder if they're getting their fair share
was tamar vocal about being unhappy about what she was being paid before this? genuinely asking. cuz if not, it seems like she just feels this way compared to what the kardashians make. but she has tp realize, the kardashian brand simply brings more to the table than the braxtons as far as this money driven industry is concerned.
Yeah, she doesnt deserve to be as big or get more pay.
And lets just face something here. Black ppl still today make up a small percentage of the US population. A small one. When compared to white ppl. So generally speaking, white ppl are going to reach a bigger audience and get more pay. And the truth of the matter is, white ppl are more willing to go out and buy/support white talent than black ppl are. Thats just the truth. So a lot of the times we blame 'racism' but in many ways, we ourselves as black ppl hold each other back.
Quote from: FRANCE on August 04, 2023, 03:14:03 PMAnd lets just face something here. Black ppl still today make up a small percentage of the US population. A small one. When compared to white ppl. So generally speaking, white ppl are going to reach a bigger audience and get more pay. And the truth of the matter is, white ppl are more willing to go out and buy/support white talent than black ppl are. Thats just the truth.
This is a great point too
Quote from: ivorian oph on August 04, 2023, 02:32:40 PMQuote from: Young on August 04, 2023, 02:07:35 PMThe one thing I didn't understand/agree with is didn't BFV come out after Kardashians?
I remember them being out in like 07 I thought
None the less BFV had several successful seasons—I wish they were being compensated appropriately.
For example the show is on streaming and I wonder if they're getting their fair share
was tamar vocal about being unhappy about what she was being paid before this? genuinely asking. cuz if not, it seems like she just feels this way compared to what the kardashians make. but she has tp realize, the kardashian brand simply brings more to the table than the braxtons as far as this money driven industry is concerned.
I think the entire family has mentioned something to the effect of the contracts on the show being a bit of a mess at some point or another
This sounds more like the negotiations are not as fair...
Quote from: Young on August 04, 2023, 03:23:10 PMQuote from: FRANCE on August 04, 2023, 03:14:03 PMAnd lets just face something here. Black ppl still today make up a small percentage of the US population. A small one. When compared to white ppl. So generally speaking, white ppl are going to reach a bigger audience and get more pay. And the truth of the matter is, white ppl are more willing to go out and buy/support white talent than black ppl are. Thats just the truth.
This is a great point too
I see that point too -- but
Some times black people do not have the resources (or disposable income) to support their artists/talent.
It can be a vicious cycle.
I mean IDK why these girls are complaining about stuff when they know how the world works. The Kardashians slutted themselves out for fame and leeched off of other celebs. It's not even a fair competition. Unless Tamar does a sextape with this yt man she's with or Nene goes back to stripping
But even then no one wants to see 45-50 yrs olds like that
The Braxton family didn't know how to come together to actually brand themselves and use the show to push a product.
It took them five seasons to do one album because they couldn't get past their family conflicts. And then it was just a Christmas album.
They are more talented but not business savvy
Quote from: FRANCE on August 04, 2023, 03:14:03 PMThats just the truth. So a lot of the times we blame 'racism' but in many ways, we ourselves as black ppl hold each other back.
!!!!!Thank you!!!!!
Quote from: Rxxf on August 04, 2023, 03:35:06 PMThis sounds more like the negotiations are not as fair...
!! Definitely. Black talent always gets lowballed. Sometimes you gotta take what you can get and learn how to be Savvy. Kandi didn't get paid for her first season of Housewives, but now's the highest-paid and longest-running wife. #PeepGame
Quote from: DemetriusRocka 🤴🏾 on August 04, 2023, 05:15:42 PMQuote from: Rxxf on August 04, 2023, 03:35:06 PMThis sounds more like the negotiations are not as fair...
!! Definitely. Black talent always gets lowballed. Sometimes you gotta take what you can get and learn how to be Savvy. Kandi didn't get paid for her first season of Housewives, but now's the highest-paid and longest-running wife. #PeepGame
And that's one of the biggest differences. What kinda business has Towanda, Trina, or even Toni and Tamar done since the show aired? I only remember Trina starting up that Bar Chix business and it sure aint no OLG. Is it even still open? Tamar just wanted to have a great music career and the show helped with that. And now she just hops from reality show to reality show.
A big part of the Kardashian brand is beauty too. No shade, but thats not the Braxton brand. Kanye said it himself - their talent is beauty. The plastic surgery, the image, all of that, which they leveraged to other business. One of the Kardashians got into modeling to expand that brand even more. Not everyone is as smart and truly talented like Kandi is. Tamar was prob broke before she left Vince. Toni filed a couple bankruptcies. And Towanda's man was using her living off the little that she made at the time. I mean, I'm sure not gonna assume that these women truly have what it takes to be financially and business savvy enough to be multi-millionaires off a WeTV show.
you'll never get paid the same or more than someone if you don't bring equal or more value than them in this industry. tamar knows that. deluded self.
Let's not forget they have Kris in the background putting in WORK. She stays pulling stunts and making deals to stay relevant.
That bitch literally pimped her daughter out for fame. :dead:
She's driven.
The Braxtons don't have that.
Quote from: Kalifornia. on August 04, 2023, 06:39:01 PMLet's not forget they have Kris in the background putting in WORK. She stays pulling stunts and making deals to stay relevant.
That bitch literally pimped her daughter out for fame. :dead:
She's driven.
The Braxtons don't have that.
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Quote from: Kalifornia. on August 04, 2023, 06:39:01 PMLet's not forget they have Kris in the background putting in WORK. She stays pulling stunts and making deals to stay relevant.
That bitch literally pimped her daughter out for fame. :dead:
She's driven.
The Braxtons don't have that.
You're taking this too far, we know WHY the Kardashians have made the money they have. She said her family was underpaid and she didn't lie.
Quote from: Big Barbie on August 04, 2023, 11:26:06 PMQuote from: Kalifornia. on August 04, 2023, 06:39:01 PMLet's not forget they have Kris in the background putting in WORK. She stays pulling stunts and making deals to stay relevant.
That bitch literally pimped her daughter out for fame. :dead:
She's driven.
The Braxtons don't have that.
You're taking this too far, we know WHY the Kardashians have made the money they have. She said her family was underpaid and she didn't lie.
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In the 80s and early 90s,the black population was about third less than it is now.The most watched shows on network tv were black shows.
The Kardashians didn't start off making that much money.The have 20 seasons, the Braxton's could barely hold it together for 6(7th doesn't count :plzstop: )
Quote from: rosone1 on August 05, 2023, 02:43:33 PMIn the 80s and early 90s, the black population was about third less than it is now.The most watched shows on network tv were black shows.So that's no the main issue.
The Kardashians didn't start off making that much money.The have 20 seasons, the Braxton's could barely hold it together for 6(7th doesn't count :plzstop: )
The point of reality tv is to pay people less. Even the Kardashian's weren't getting much from the show itself until they went over to Hulu with their own deal. Ryan Seacrest is rich from producing the original show.