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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_awards_and_nominations_received_by_Monica
She's right. She gets the nominations tho. Competition was thicker back then.
Quote from: Lazarus on October 12, 2023, 10:05:21 AMhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_awards_and_nominations_received_by_Monica
She's right. She gets the nominations tho. Competition was thicker back then.
I was rooting for her hard during the Still Standing era. I felt like she delivered solid body of work.
Quote from: M-Rocka on October 12, 2023, 10:10:12 AMQuote from: Lazarus on October 12, 2023, 10:05:21 AMhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_awards_and_nominations_received_by_Monica
She's right. She gets the nominations tho. Competition was thicker back then.
I was rooting for her hard during the Still Standing era. I felt like she delivered solid body of work.
But to be honest though Aaliyah too was often overlooked in the 90s. Again competition was thicker back then. For them to get those nominations and recognitions was blessing nonetheless though.
Quote from: Lazarus on October 12, 2023, 10:05:21 AMhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_awards_and_nominations_received_by_Monica
She's right. She gets the nominations tho. Competition was thicker back then.
Monica has only won 5 awards total???
omg
The Makings of Me definitely deserved an award or two.
Quote from: Lazarus on October 12, 2023, 10:13:53 AMQuote from: M-Rocka on October 12, 2023, 10:10:12 AMQuote from: Lazarus on October 12, 2023, 10:05:21 AMhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_awards_and_nominations_received_by_Monica
She's right. She gets the nominations tho. Competition was thicker back then.
I was rooting for her hard during the Still Standing era. I felt like she delivered solid body of work.
But to be honest though Aaliyah too was often overlooked in the 90s. Again competition was thicker back then. For them to get those nominations and recognitions was blessing nonetheless though.
You're absolutely right, I remember vividly when she won the Best Female Video award for Try Again beating out both Brit & Xtina. I'm like oh she's a threat. :ohwow:
Quote from: Nine on October 12, 2023, 10:15:46 AMQuote from: Lazarus on October 12, 2023, 10:05:21 AMhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_awards_and_nominations_received_by_Monica
She's right. She gets the nominations tho. Competition was thicker back then.
Monica has only won 5 awards total???
omg
Sadly yes. I think it's 6 though. I recall a Billboard Music Award she won too.
Quote from: Nine on October 12, 2023, 10:17:03 AMThe Makings of Me definitely deserved an award or two.
I love that album after revisiting it a couple years ago. That and ATS.
Quote from: M-Rocka on October 12, 2023, 10:17:32 AMQuote from: Lazarus on October 12, 2023, 10:13:53 AMQuote from: M-Rocka on October 12, 2023, 10:10:12 AMQuote from: Lazarus on October 12, 2023, 10:05:21 AMhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_awards_and_nominations_received_by_Monica
She's right. She gets the nominations tho. Competition was thicker back then.
I was rooting for her hard during the Still Standing era. I felt like she delivered solid body of work.
But to be honest though Aaliyah too was often overlooked in the 90s. Again competition was thicker back then. For them to get those nominations and recognitions was blessing nonetheless though.
You're absolutely right, I remember vividly when she won the Best Female Video award for Try Again beating out both Brit & Xtina. I'm like oh she's a threat. :ohwow:
The early 2000's was her time. 🙌🏾
Kiiiiiiiiii
I mean she has a GrammY and when she realising regularly enough and good enough material (up until MoM) competition was thick.
Quote from: Lazarus on October 12, 2023, 10:17:52 AMQuote from: Nine on October 12, 2023, 10:15:46 AMQuote from: Lazarus on October 12, 2023, 10:05:21 AMhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_awards_and_nominations_received_by_Monica
She's right. She gets the nominations tho. Competition was thicker back then.
Monica has only won 5 awards total???
omg
Sadly yes. I think it's 6 though.
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Quote from: Nine on October 12, 2023, 10:17:03 AMThe Makings of Me definitely deserved an award or two.
Should've won that Grammy too for Everything To Me.
She could've gotten something for Still Standing but the Grammy competition was thick too. She was up against Fantasia, Faith, Jazmin, and Kelly for Best R&B Vocal Female Performance.
Quote from: M-Rocka on October 12, 2023, 10:17:32 AMQuote from: Lazarus on October 12, 2023, 10:13:53 AMQuote from: M-Rocka on October 12, 2023, 10:10:12 AMQuote from: Lazarus on October 12, 2023, 10:05:21 AMhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_awards_and_nominations_received_by_Monica
She's right. She gets the nominations tho. Competition was thicker back then.
I was rooting for her hard during the Still Standing era. I felt like she delivered solid body of work.
But to be honest though Aaliyah too was often overlooked in the 90s. Again competition was thicker back then. For them to get those nominations and recognitions was blessing nonetheless though.
You're absolutely right, I remember vividly when she won the Best Female Video award for Try Again beating out both Brit & Xtina. I'm like oh she's a threat. :ohwow:
quee was kinda stealthy huh
Mons brand of r&b is very "standard issue" when u compare it to someone like jazmine who's creative af but still manages to maintain that hard R&B core
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I still remember when Billboard gave Beyonce a special Hot 100 award for the most weeks in a calendar year at No. 1 on the Hot 100 for a female when Monica had more and someone called them out on it
They admitted to the error but never corrected it(to my knowledge)
It definitely bothers her, or did at one point.
Can someone tell her she has to EARN them?? :unsure:
Quote from: Bodak Shit on October 12, 2023, 11:50:55 AMMons brand of r&b is very "standard issue" when u compare it to someone like jazmine who's creative af but still manages to maintain that hard R&B core
nah
code red gave u modern variety
honestly, that album was so slept on as well
Quote from: ivorian oph on October 12, 2023, 01:20:23 PMQuote from: Bodak Shit on October 12, 2023, 11:50:55 AMMons brand of r&b is very "standard issue" when u compare it to someone like jazmine who's creative af but still manages to maintain that hard R&B core
nah
code red gave u modern variety
honestly, that album was so slept on as well
I'll listen later and come back to disagree with u
Sorry but this is an example of the music industry getting it RIGHT! this isn't jazmine sullivan or india arie being robbed after they released great material. This is monica and she's the personification of a MID ass artist. Awards are reserved for the greatest pieces of work. Monica ain't EVER been an amazing work kinda girl. SORRY
Quote from: Bodak Shit on October 12, 2023, 11:50:55 AMMons brand of r&b is very "standard issue" when u compare it to someone like jazmine who's creative af but still manages to maintain that hard R&B core
PRECISELY! she's had moments where if she won i wouldn't be surprised but if monica is in a category i'm PROBABLY gonna think someone else in the category is more deserving
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 12, 2023, 01:47:45 PMSorry but this is an example of the music industry getting it RIGHT! this isn't jazmine sullivan or india arie being robbed after they released great material. This is monica and she's the personification of a MID ass artist. Awards are reserved for the greatest pieces of work. Monica ain't EVER been an amazing work kinda girl. SORRY
I would agree if we're talking strictly Grammys but most award shows are supposedly based on statistics.
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 12, 2023, 01:49:41 PMQuote from: Bodak Shit on October 12, 2023, 11:50:55 AMMons brand of r&b is very "standard issue" when u compare it to someone like jazmine who's creative af but still manages to maintain that hard R&B core
PRECISELY! she's had moments where if she won i wouldn't be surprised but if monica is in a category i'm PROBABLY gonna think someone else in the category is more deserving
see boo
I do be knowing stuff about music :woohoo:
Quote from: Lazarus on October 12, 2023, 10:13:53 AMQuote from: M-Rocka on October 12, 2023, 10:10:12 AMQuote from: Lazarus on October 12, 2023, 10:05:21 AMhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_awards_and_nominations_received_by_Monica
She's right. She gets the nominations tho. Competition was thicker back then.
I was rooting for her hard during the Still Standing era. I felt like she delivered solid body of work.
But to be honest though Aaliyah too was often overlooked in the 90s. Again competition was thicker back then. For them to get those nominations and recognitions was blessing nonetheless though.
TBH.I think it has to do with her team.Also, like Lazarus said, competition was stiff back then.
She claims not to be bothered but clearly is.You have albums certified in 3 different decades, the biggest female duet of all time,had 3 no 1s and Grammy at 18.I wouldn't care about a Soul Train award.
Quote from: rosone1 on October 12, 2023, 02:21:02 PMTBH.I think it has to do with her team.Also, like Lazarus said, competition was stiff back then.
She claims not to be bothered but clearly is.You have albums certified in 3 different decades, the biggest female duet of all time,had 3 no 1s and Grammy at 18.I wouldn't care about a Soul Train award.
I think it's her team as well. I think about how Diddy's team was instrumental in getting him that MTV VMA award honor to coincide with his latest album release.
Coko or LeeLee said something similar to Mo about SWV being unappreciated & since getting with their current manager they've been getting their flowers because he keeps them in the media.
Quote from: Ulysses on October 12, 2023, 01:19:15 PMCan someone tell her she has to EARN them?? :unsure:
:kii:
Competition was crazy back then. She should have another Grammy and some more awards but a lot of Artists can say that. Her era was tough.
I don't think Monica bothered by it at least I hope not. It's just a blessing to get nominated tbh. Look at how many other artists been snubbed period regarding a nomination alone.
It's funny cause Brandy has felt the same way. I agree After the Storm and Still Standing eras were the times her team should've fought for more nominations and wins.
Quote from: DemetriusRocka 🤴🏾 on October 12, 2023, 05:35:52 PMIt's funny cause Brandy has felt the same way. I agree After the Storm and Still Standing eras were the times her team should've fought for more nominations and wins.
In term of awards, Brandy cleared. I don't know why she would feel that way. As far as those Monica's eras are concerned she was nominated she just didn't win she was up against Beyonce, Ashanti, and Mary in 2003 and Fantasia, Faith, Kelly, and Jazmine in 2010.
Quote from: Lazarus on October 12, 2023, 05:42:11 PMQuote from: DemetriusRocka 🤴🏾 on October 12, 2023, 05:35:52 PMIt's funny cause Brandy has felt the same way. I agree After the Storm and Still Standing eras were the times her team should've fought for more nominations and wins.
In term of awards, Brandy cleared. I don't know why she would feel that way. As far as those Monica's eras are concerned she was nominated she just didn't win she was up against Beyonce, Ashanti, and Mary in 2003 and Fantasia, Faith, Kelly, and Jazmine in 2010.
Only for her debut and it's premature because the label put that album together. She fared slightly better than Moe but I honestly remember watching the lady of Soul Awards being lost Brandy lost out to a bunch a new newcomers during the Full Moon era.
Quote from: DemetriusRocka 🤴🏾 on October 12, 2023, 05:46:33 PMQuote from: Lazarus on October 12, 2023, 05:42:11 PMQuote from: DemetriusRocka 🤴🏾 on October 12, 2023, 05:35:52 PMIt's funny cause Brandy has felt the same way. I agree After the Storm and Still Standing eras were the times her team should've fought for more nominations and wins.
In term of awards, Brandy cleared. I don't know why she would feel that way. As far as those Monica's eras are concerned she was nominated she just didn't win she was up against Beyonce, Ashanti, and Mary in 2003 and Fantasia, Faith, Kelly, and Jazmine in 2010.
Only for her debut and it's premature because the label put that album together. I honestly remember watching the lady of Soul Awards being lost that Brandy lost out to a bunch a new comers during the Full Moon era.
Brandy is still highly decorated with tons of awards. Doesn't matter when it was but yes things got weird around the full moon era for obvious reasons
Quote from: DemetriusRocka 🤴🏾 on October 12, 2023, 05:46:33 PMQuote from: Lazarus on October 12, 2023, 05:42:11 PMQuote from: DemetriusRocka 🤴🏾 on October 12, 2023, 05:35:52 PMIt's funny cause Brandy has felt the same way. I agree After the Storm and Still Standing eras were the times her team should've fought for more nominations and wins.
In term of awards, Brandy cleared. I don't know why she would feel that way. As far as those Monica's eras are concerned she was nominated she just didn't win she was up against Beyonce, Ashanti, and Mary in 2003 and Fantasia, Faith, Kelly, and Jazmine in 2010.
Only for her debut and it's premature because the label put that album together. She fared slightly better than Moe but I honestly remember watching the lady of Soul Awards being lost Brandy lost out to a bunch a new newcomers during the Full Moon era.
She cleared during her sophomore era too. She's still clearing, she's just at that legacy stage now though.
Quote from: Lazarus on October 12, 2023, 06:00:48 PMQuote from: DemetriusRocka 🤴🏾 on October 12, 2023, 05:46:33 PMQuote from: Lazarus on October 12, 2023, 05:42:11 PMQuote from: DemetriusRocka 🤴🏾 on October 12, 2023, 05:35:52 PMIt's funny cause Brandy has felt the same way. I agree After the Storm and Still Standing eras were the times her team should've fought for more nominations and wins.
In term of awards, Brandy cleared. I don't know why she would feel that way. As far as those Monica's eras are concerned she was nominated she just didn't win she was up against Beyonce, Ashanti, and Mary in 2003 and Fantasia, Faith, Kelly, and Jazmine in 2010.
Only for her debut and it's premature because the label put that album together. She fared slightly better than Moe but I honestly remember watching the lady of Soul Awards being lost Brandy lost out to a bunch a new newcomers during the Full Moon era.
She cleared during her sophomore era too. She's still clearing, she's just at that legacy stage now though.
OK.
Quote from: Bodak Shit on October 12, 2023, 01:26:56 PMQuote from: ivorian oph on October 12, 2023, 01:20:23 PMQuote from: Bodak Shit on October 12, 2023, 11:50:55 AMMons brand of r&b is very "standard issue" when u compare it to someone like jazmine who's creative af but still manages to maintain that hard R&B core
nah
code red gave u modern variety
honestly, that album was so slept on as well
I'll listen later and come back to disagree with u
vcccc disagree wit those ancestry results hun, not me
:unbothered:
Quote from: rosone1 on October 12, 2023, 01:52:42 PMQuote from: Vonc2002 on October 12, 2023, 01:47:45 PMSorry but this is an example of the music industry getting it RIGHT! this isn't jazmine sullivan or india arie being robbed after they released great material. This is monica and she's the personification of a MID ass artist. Awards are reserved for the greatest pieces of work. Monica ain't EVER been an amazing work kinda girl. SORRY
I would agree if we're talking strictly Grammys but most award shows are supposedly based on statistics.
!!!
:omf:
mon has def no been given he flowers in regard to the awards circuit in GENERAL. not even up for debate tbh ccccccc
I ACTUALLY THINK SHE HAS GOTTEN EXACTLY WHAT SHE HAS WORKED FOR. SHE NEVER EXPANDED AND PUSHED HERSELF
INTO OTHER VENTURES. JUST GOOD SINGING FOR THE HOOD IS NOT GOING TO MAKE YOU A CROSSOVER INTERNATIONAL
MEGA STAR AND HOUSEHOLD NAME. SHE SHOULD HAVE TAKEN NOTES FROM BRANDY. BRANDY WAS ALL OVER THE PLACE
SNATCHING EVERY OPERTUNITY. I FEEL LIKE MONICA BACK THEN THOUGHT SHE WAS TOO HOOD OR REAL TO STRETCH HERSELF
BECAUSE SHE THOUGHT IT WAS BEING FAKE OR PHONY. SHE COULD HAVE BEEN HUGE TOO. SHE WAS NOT WILLING TO PLAY THE GAME
SO THE GAME PLAYED HER. YALL SEE WHAT HAPPENED WHEN SHE TEAMED UP WITH BRANDY! AND SHE AIN'T EVEN REALLY WANT TO DO THAT.
Quote from: Lazarus on October 12, 2023, 06:00:48 PMQuote from: DemetriusRocka 🤴🏾 on October 12, 2023, 05:46:33 PMQuote from: Lazarus on October 12, 2023, 05:42:11 PMQuote from: DemetriusRocka 🤴🏾 on October 12, 2023, 05:35:52 PMIt's funny cause Brandy has felt the same way. I agree After the Storm and Still Standing eras were the times her team should've fought for more nominations and wins.
In term of awards, Brandy cleared. I don't know why she would feel that way. As far as those Monica's eras are concerned she was nominated she just didn't win she was up against Beyonce, Ashanti, and Mary in 2003 and Fantasia, Faith, Kelly, and Jazmine in 2010.
Only for her debut and it's premature because the label put that album together. She fared slightly better than Moe but I honestly remember watching the lady of Soul Awards being lost Brandy lost out to a bunch a new newcomers during the Full Moon era.
She cleared during her sophomore era too. She's still clearing, she's just at that legacy stage now though.
Quote from: Say-Something-ReVon on October 12, 2023, 07:57:49 PMI ACTUALLY THINK SHE HAS GOTTEN EXACTLY WHAT SHE HAS WORKED FOR. SHE NEVER EXPANDED AND PUSHED HERSELF
INTO OTHER VENTURES. JUST GOOD SINGING FOR THE HOOD IS NOT GOING TO MAKE YOU A CROSSOVER INTERNATIONAL
MEGA STAR AND HOUSEHOLD NAME. SHE SHOULD HAVE TAKEN NOTES FROM BRANDY. BRANDY WAS ALL OVER THE PLACE
SNATCHING EVERY OPERTUNITY. I FEEL LIKE MONICA BACK THEN THOUGHT SHE WAS TOO HOOD OR REAL TO STRETCH HERSELF
BECAUSE SHE THOUGHT IT WAS BEING FAKE OR PHONY. SHE COULD HAVE BEEN HUGE TOO. SHE WAS NOT WILLING TO PLAY THE GAME
SO THE GAME PLAYED HER. YALL SEE WHAT HAPPENED WHEN SHE TEAMED UP WITH BRANDY! AND SHE AIN'T EVEN REALLY WANT TO DO THAT.
Agreed
Code Red could've won a few too. That all men lie song is bad and above average.
Quote from: bby ddy on October 12, 2023, 08:47:18 PMQuote from: Say-Something-ReVon on October 12, 2023, 07:57:49 PMI ACTUALLY THINK SHE HAS GOTTEN EXACTLY WHAT SHE HAS WORKED FOR. SHE NEVER EXPANDED AND PUSHED HERSELF
INTO OTHER VENTURES. JUST GOOD SINGING FOR THE HOOD IS NOT GOING TO MAKE YOU A CROSSOVER INTERNATIONAL
MEGA STAR AND HOUSEHOLD NAME. SHE SHOULD HAVE TAKEN NOTES FROM BRANDY. BRANDY WAS ALL OVER THE PLACE
SNATCHING EVERY OPERTUNITY. I FEEL LIKE MONICA BACK THEN THOUGHT SHE WAS TOO HOOD OR REAL TO STRETCH HERSELF
BECAUSE SHE THOUGHT IT WAS BEING FAKE OR PHONY. SHE COULD HAVE BEEN HUGE TOO. SHE WAS NOT WILLING TO PLAY THE GAME
SO THE GAME PLAYED HER. YALL SEE WHAT HAPPENED WHEN SHE TEAMED UP WITH BRANDY! AND SHE AIN'T EVEN REALLY WANT TO DO THAT.
Agreed
dhdjdjddnjdjddjdjddd at the all caps but
!!!!!
I think she got exactly the half of flower she deserves. I never hear anyone reference Monica as an inspiration and her music and vocals are nothing groundbreaking.
:udontlookok:
Blackberry is ICONIC though
VOCALLY MONICA IS JUST NOT THAT INSPIRATION GIRL. SHE CAN SANG ABSOLUTELY BUT I FEEL LIKE SO MANY GIRLS/GUYS IN THE CHURCH HOOD CAN SING LIKE THAT. GRANTED SHE IS PROBABLY THE ONLY ONE IN THE INDUSTRY WHO SOUNDS LIKE HER SO THATS WHY SHE HAS A SOLID LANE AND IS STILL AROUND.
Quote from: Ma Lo on October 12, 2023, 09:52:40 PMCode Red could've won a few too. That all men lie song is bad and above average.
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Quote from: Say-Something-ReVon on October 12, 2023, 07:57:49 PMI ACTUALLY THINK SHE HAS GOTTEN EXACTLY WHAT SHE HAS WORKED FOR. SHE NEVER EXPANDED AND PUSHED HERSELF
INTO OTHER VENTURES. JUST GOOD SINGING FOR THE HOOD IS NOT GOING TO MAKE YOU A CROSSOVER INTERNATIONAL
MEGA STAR AND HOUSEHOLD NAME. SHE SHOULD HAVE TAKEN NOTES FROM BRANDY. BRANDY WAS ALL OVER THE PLACE
SNATCHING EVERY OPERTUNITY. I FEEL LIKE MONICA BACK THEN THOUGHT SHE WAS TOO HOOD OR REAL TO STRETCH HERSELF
BECAUSE SHE THOUGHT IT WAS BEING FAKE OR PHONY. SHE COULD HAVE BEEN HUGE TOO. SHE WAS NOT WILLING TO PLAY THE GAME
SO THE GAME PLAYED HER. YALL SEE WHAT HAPPENED WHEN SHE TEAMED UP WITH BRANDY! AND SHE AIN'T EVEN REALLY WANT TO DO THAT.
Right.She didn't play industry politics well and she didn't have a good team.I remember when she turned down an Estee Lauder contract back in the day.I'm sure she's regretful but she still had a really good career.
I feel bad for the Chante Moores, Tamias, Phyllis Hyman and countless others who are the real "often forgotten".
I wouldn't consider Tamia forgotten. She received 4 Grammy nominations before she even dropped her debut album and continued to get nominated afterwards.
so yea, mons has been overlooked and deserved more. period.
Quote from: STUNNA GOD on October 12, 2023, 10:08:11 PMQuote from: bby ddy on October 12, 2023, 08:47:18 PMQuote from: Say-Something-ReVon on October 12, 2023, 07:57:49 PMI ACTUALLY THINK SHE HAS GOTTEN EXACTLY WHAT SHE HAS WORKED FOR. SHE NEVER EXPANDED AND PUSHED HERSELF
INTO OTHER VENTURES. JUST GOOD SINGING FOR THE HOOD IS NOT GOING TO MAKE YOU A CROSSOVER INTERNATIONAL
MEGA STAR AND HOUSEHOLD NAME. SHE SHOULD HAVE TAKEN NOTES FROM BRANDY. BRANDY WAS ALL OVER THE PLACE
SNATCHING EVERY OPERTUNITY. I FEEL LIKE MONICA BACK THEN THOUGHT SHE WAS TOO HOOD OR REAL TO STRETCH HERSELF
BECAUSE SHE THOUGHT IT WAS BEING FAKE OR PHONY. SHE COULD HAVE BEEN HUGE TOO. SHE WAS NOT WILLING TO PLAY THE GAME
SO THE GAME PLAYED HER. YALL SEE WHAT HAPPENED WHEN SHE TEAMED UP WITH BRANDY! AND SHE AIN'T EVEN REALLY WANT TO DO THAT.
Agreed
dhdjdjddnjdjddjdjddd at the all caps but
!!!!!
I think she got exactly the half of flower she deserves. I never hear anyone reference Monica as an inspiration and her music and vocals are nothing groundbreaking.
:udontlookok:
Period
I agree with the all caps statement. And she had Clive behind her too so the opportunities could've been there if she wanted them to be
Quote from: Lazarus on October 13, 2023, 02:07:17 AMI wouldn't consider Tamia forgotten. She received 4 Grammy nominations before she even dropped her debut album and continued to get nominated afterwards.
That's true but is seems she doesn't get the appreciation she deserves.
You
Quote from: Say-Something-ReVon on October 12, 2023, 07:57:49 PMI ACTUALLY THINK SHE HAS GOTTEN EXACTLY WHAT SHE HAS WORKED FOR. SHE NEVER EXPANDED AND PUSHED HERSELF
INTO OTHER VENTURES. JUST GOOD SINGING FOR THE HOOD IS NOT GOING TO MAKE YOU A CROSSOVER INTERNATIONAL
MEGA STAR AND HOUSEHOLD NAME. SHE SHOULD HAVE TAKEN NOTES FROM BRANDY. BRANDY WAS ALL OVER THE PLACE
SNATCHING EVERY OPERTUNITY. I FEEL LIKE MONICA BACK THEN THOUGHT SHE WAS TOO HOOD OR REAL TO STRETCH HERSELF
BECAUSE SHE THOUGHT IT WAS BEING FAKE OR PHONY. SHE COULD HAVE BEEN HUGE TOO. SHE WAS NOT WILLING TO PLAY THE GAME
SO THE GAME PLAYED HER. YALL SEE WHAT HAPPENED WHEN SHE TEAMED UP WITH BRANDY! AND SHE AIN'T EVEN REALLY WANT TO DO THAT.
Right.She didn't play industry politics well and she didn't have a good team.I remember when she turned down an Estee Lauder contract back in the day.I'm sure she's regretful but she still had a really good career.
I feel bad for the Chante Moores, Tamias, Phyllis Hyman and countless others who are the real "often forgotten".
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An Estee Lauder offer was a big deal for her. I don't get why she would decline that.
Quote from: Harlem on October 13, 2023, 10:51:59 AMI agree with the all caps statement. And she had Clive behind her too so the opportunities could've been there if she wanted them to be
That Part!
She had Clive behind her for the second album because he wanted to revamp her image and she followed suit to a certain extend. By the time the early 00s came though Alicia Keys became his golden girl tbh.
Seems like she might be campaigning for that gospel grammy. Hopefully they win.
HDHSHDJDNDNSNDNNSNDNDNDNDNDNNDNFNFFNNFF
She wanted a HOOD ass career and that's exactly what she got. :uhh:
:udontlookok:
Quote from: STUNNA GOD on October 15, 2023, 04:09:21 PMHDHSHDJDNDNSNDNNSNDNDNDNDNDNNDNFNFFNNFF
She wanted a HOOD ass career and that's exactly what she got. :uhh:
:udontlookok:
:kii:
Mary J. Blige makes Hood music and she was always treated like royalty when it came to black award shows. Monica has a right to feel a way she could have been more celebrated by her community. Like, fuck the Grammys and Vma's.
Quote from: DemetriusRocka 🤴🏾 on October 15, 2023, 06:24:08 PMMary J. Blige makes Hood music and she was always treated like royalty when it came to black award shows. Monica has a right to feel a way she could have been more celebrated by her community. Like, fuck the Grammys and Vma's.
MONICA HAS NEVER NOR WILL SHE EVER POSSESS THE STAGE PRESENCE MARY HAD. MARY LITERALLY BARED HER RAW ENTIRE SOUL ON
STAGE AND THAT'S WHAT TOOK HER FURTHER. PLUS HER SOUND DIMENOR AND VIBE WAS JUST MORE CAPTIVATING TO THE MASSES.
I NEVER THINK OF THEM IN THE SAME LANE AT ALL. NOT EVEN A LITTLE BIT.
Quote from: Summertime on October 13, 2023, 11:32:47 AMYou Quote from: Say-Something-ReVon on October 12, 2023, 07:57:49 PMI ACTUALLY THINK SHE HAS GOTTEN EXACTLY WHAT SHE HAS WORKED FOR. SHE NEVER EXPANDED AND PUSHED HERSELF
INTO OTHER VENTURES. JUST GOOD SINGING FOR THE HOOD IS NOT GOING TO MAKE YOU A CROSSOVER INTERNATIONAL
MEGA STAR AND HOUSEHOLD NAME. SHE SHOULD HAVE TAKEN NOTES FROM BRANDY. BRANDY WAS ALL OVER THE PLACE
SNATCHING EVERY OPERTUNITY. I FEEL LIKE MONICA BACK THEN THOUGHT SHE WAS TOO HOOD OR REAL TO STRETCH HERSELF
BECAUSE SHE THOUGHT IT WAS BEING FAKE OR PHONY. SHE COULD HAVE BEEN HUGE TOO. SHE WAS NOT WILLING TO PLAY THE GAME
SO THE GAME PLAYED HER. YALL SEE WHAT HAPPENED WHEN SHE TEAMED UP WITH BRANDY! AND SHE AIN'T EVEN REALLY WANT TO DO THAT.
Right.She didn't play industry politics well and she didn't have a good team.I remember when she turned down an Estee Lauder contract back in the day.I'm sure she's regretful but she still had a really good career.
I feel bad for the Chante Moores, Tamias, Phyllis Hyman and countless others who are the real "often forgotten".
An Estee Lauder offer was a big deal for her. I don't get why she would decline that.
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The same reason she turned down Broadway roles and other opportunities... She didn't want to do it. She wanted to release her music and go back to her life like she did and still does. The woman wasn't complaining, she was answering a question during an interview. Other than this I've never heard her mention anything like this. She considers herself an underdog but she says she knows she put herself in that position bc she wanted a life and she had one
Monica definitely deserves her flowers. She's accomplished a lot without having a major presence in TV/Pop culture, endorsement deals, feature films and headlining major tours like her peers. I'm sorry! Y'all can't deny sis has put in the time and talent. And she has held it down for the girls from around the way. That level of authenticity in her music and her presence is undeniable. Monica >
Yeah.After seeing a longer clip, I caught she wasn't complaining but was happy about the position she was/is in.
Quote from: Eh... on October 15, 2023, 07:28:13 PMQuote from: Summertime on October 13, 2023, 11:32:47 AMYou Quote from: Say-Something-ReVon on October 12, 2023, 07:57:49 PMI ACTUALLY THINK SHE HAS GOTTEN EXACTLY WHAT SHE HAS WORKED FOR. SHE NEVER EXPANDED AND PUSHED HERSELF
INTO OTHER VENTURES. JUST GOOD SINGING FOR THE HOOD IS NOT GOING TO MAKE YOU A CROSSOVER INTERNATIONAL
MEGA STAR AND HOUSEHOLD NAME. SHE SHOULD HAVE TAKEN NOTES FROM BRANDY. BRANDY WAS ALL OVER THE PLACE
SNATCHING EVERY OPERTUNITY. I FEEL LIKE MONICA BACK THEN THOUGHT SHE WAS TOO HOOD OR REAL TO STRETCH HERSELF
BECAUSE SHE THOUGHT IT WAS BEING FAKE OR PHONY. SHE COULD HAVE BEEN HUGE TOO. SHE WAS NOT WILLING TO PLAY THE GAME
SO THE GAME PLAYED HER. YALL SEE WHAT HAPPENED WHEN SHE TEAMED UP WITH BRANDY! AND SHE AIN'T EVEN REALLY WANT TO DO THAT.
Right.She didn't play industry politics well and she didn't have a good team.I remember when she turned down an Estee Lauder contract back in the day.I'm sure she's regretful but she still had a really good career.
I feel bad for the Chante Moores, Tamias, Phyllis Hyman and countless others who are the real "often forgotten".
An Estee Lauder offer was a big deal for her. I don't get why she would decline that.
The same reason she turned down Broadway roles and other opportunities... She didn't want to do it. She wanted to release her music and go back to her life like she did and still does. The woman wasn't complaining, she was answering a question during an interview. Other than this I've never heard her mention anything like this. She considers herself and underdog but she says she knows she put herself in that position bc she wanted a life and she had one
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period
To me she always seemed content with being a local "sanging" urban girl
Quote from: DopeSoul. on October 15, 2023, 11:42:22 PMTo me she always seemed content with being a local "sanging" urban girl
THIS JUST MADE ME BUST OUT LAUGHING. :plzstop: :kii: :dead:
Quote from: rosone1 on October 15, 2023, 07:59:53 PMYeah.After seeing a longer clip, I caught she was complaining but was happy about the position she was/is in.
SHE SHOULD HAVE JUST SAID THAT WITHOUT ALL THE EXTRA ADDITIVES. :disgusted:
Quote from: Say-Something-ReVon on October 16, 2023, 02:07:03 AMQuote from: rosone1 on October 15, 2023, 07:59:53 PMYeah.After seeing a longer clip, I caught she was complaining but was happy about the position she was/is in.
SHE SHOULD HAVE JUST SAID THAT WITHOUT ALL THE EXTRA ADDITIVES. :disgusted:
or she could've said what TF she said and let any pissed gor fume abt it
:woohoo:
And if y'all her documentary celebrating the 25th anniversary of "Miss Thang" she basically says the same thing. She's content with her life and career decisions she's made.
Quote from: Say-Something-ReVon on October 15, 2023, 06:44:16 PMQuote from: DemetriusRocka 🤴🏾 on October 15, 2023, 06:24:08 PMMary J. Blige makes Hood music and she was always treated like royalty when it came to black award shows. Monica has a right to feel a way she could have been more celebrated by her community. Like, fuck the Grammys and Vma's.
MONICA HAS NEVER NOR WILL SHE EVER POSSESS THE STAGE PRESENCE MARY HAD. MARY LITERALLY BARED HER RAW ENTIRE SOUL ON
STAGE AND THAT'S WHAT TOOK HER FURTHER. PLUS HER SOUND DIMENOR AND VIBE WAS JUST MORE CAPTIVATING TO THE MASSES.
I NEVER THINK OF THEM IN THE SAME LANE AT ALL. NOT EVEN A LITTLE BIT.
They're more alike than people would like to admit but we can agree to disagree. Monica is much more guarded with her life than Mary was/is but she is for sure one of Marys children. I see more Mary in her than Whitney tbh.
https://twitter.com/_IAMCHERYLLYNN/status/1713412313745588331?t=S7FPGmpuvooxsYWI27KMxQ&s=19
Cheryl Lynn shows support
Quote from: DemetriusRocka 🤴🏾 on October 16, 2023, 06:25:09 PMQuote from: Say-Something-ReVon on October 15, 2023, 06:44:16 PMQuote from: DemetriusRocka 🤴🏾 on October 15, 2023, 06:24:08 PMMary J. Blige makes Hood music and she was always treated like royalty when it came to black award shows. Monica has a right to feel a way she could have been more celebrated by her community. Like, fuck the Grammys and Vma's.
MONICA HAS NEVER NOR WILL SHE EVER POSSESS THE STAGE PRESENCE MARY HAD. MARY LITERALLY BARED HER RAW ENTIRE SOUL ON
STAGE AND THAT'S WHAT TOOK HER FURTHER. PLUS HER SOUND DIMENOR AND VIBE WAS JUST MORE CAPTIVATING TO THE MASSES.
I NEVER THINK OF THEM IN THE SAME LANE AT ALL. NOT EVEN A LITTLE BIT.
They're more alike than people would like to admit but we can agree to disagree. Monica is much more guarded with her life than Mary was/is but she is for sure one of Marys children. I see more Mary in her than Whitney tbh.
AGREED... DISAGREED... EITHER WAY IT'S TUMBLEWEED
I DEFINITELY NEVER SAW THE WHITNEY COMPARISON. THAT SHIT STILL CONFUSES ME TO THIS VERY DAY. :dead:
Quote from: ivorian oph on October 16, 2023, 10:58:00 AMQuote from: Say-Something-ReVon on October 16, 2023, 02:07:03 AMQuote from: rosone1 on October 15, 2023, 07:59:53 PMYeah.After seeing a longer clip, I caught she was complaining but was happy about the position she was/is in.
SHE SHOULD HAVE JUST SAID THAT WITHOUT ALL THE EXTRA ADDITIVES. :disgusted:
or she could've said what TF she said and let any pissed gor fume abt it
:woohoo:
YOU ARE CLEARLY THE VAGINA HERE ON FIRE. YOU STEAMED PRESSED CATFISH YOU! :dead:
Quote from: Say-Something-ReVon on October 17, 2023, 12:49:54 AMQuote from: ivorian oph on October 16, 2023, 10:58:00 AMQuote from: Say-Something-ReVon on October 16, 2023, 02:07:03 AMQuote from: rosone1 on October 15, 2023, 07:59:53 PMYeah.After seeing a longer clip, I caught she was complaining but was happy about the position she was/is in.
SHE SHOULD HAVE JUST SAID THAT WITHOUT ALL THE EXTRA ADDITIVES. :disgusted:
or she could've said what TF she said and let any pissed gor fume abt it
:woohoo:
YOU ARE CLEARLY THE VAGINA HERE ON FIRE. YOU STEAMED PRESSED CATFISH YOU! :dead:
:disgusted:
this nonsense ass post vvvvccxx