- She was not actively involved in the animated short that won her a Daytime Emmy. She was just a producer.
- She won the Tony for an off-Broadway show that she signed on as a producer for (along with like 15 people) when it went to Broadway
I think both her Emmy and Tony were awarded for producer credits that she obtained as part of a planned campaign to earn EGOT without having to be actively involved (allegedly in my opinion, don't sue me Jen). She didn't win them for being on TV or on Broadway. She bought in to high-quality products in order to ride them to an award win as a producer.
With that being said, does she deserve the EGOT title? We all know she won her Grammy and Oscar, but could anyone even tell you what she won her Emmy and Tony for if you asked them?
Discuss!
Disclaimer: I'm not trying to tear down Jennifer, this is merely an observation and my opinion.
She played the game to get it, but I don't feel she is a true EGOT.
I personally don't feel any of that should matters. People win awards all the time as producers by only slapping their name on something.
Don't get me wrong, i hear what what you're saying. I believe there's a lot more that goes into producing than money. Some of those people are really talented and true visionaries. I dont fault Jennifer if that's not her thing, she won't be the first nor last.
Same thing actually applies to John Legend so I wont discredit her
I guess it is what it is. There's no guarantee that the shows these ppl "produce" will win the awards so it's not cheating
Idk what Whoopi has hers for either so ...
I know the Oscar is for ghost and I'm sure the Grammy is for a comedy album
Quote from: DemetriusRocka 🤴🏾 on November 25, 2023, 09:38:26 PMI believe there's a lot more that goes into producing than money.
I want to see the receipts :receipts:
Quote from: RAY7 on November 25, 2023, 09:49:18 PMSame thing actually applies to John Legend so I wont discredit her
I guess it is what it is. There's no guarantee that the shows these ppl "produce" will win the awards so it's not cheating
I didn't know he was an EGOT.
Quote from: Monica is a liar on November 25, 2023, 09:56:57 PMIdk what Whoopi has hers for either so ...
I know the Oscar is for ghost and I'm sure the Grammy is for a comedy album
Emmy for Outstanding Special Class Special in 2002 for "Beyond Tara: The Extraordinary Life of Hattie McDaniel. She also had won an Emmy in 2009 for Outstanding Talk Show Host for "The View.
She has multiple Tonys, the first won in 2002 as a producer of the Broadway musical Thoroughly Modern Millie.
:ummwhat: She won it fair and square
white ppl do this shit all the time... i dont see the issue.
Quote from: Monica is a liar on November 25, 2023, 09:56:57 PMIdk what Whoopi has hers for either so ...
I know the Oscar is for ghost and I'm sure the Grammy is for a comedy album
It's not your place to know nor question her awards.
Quote from: BrandySavedMyLife on November 25, 2023, 10:05:22 PMQuote from: Monica is a liar on November 25, 2023, 09:56:57 PMIdk what Whoopi has hers for either so ...
I know the Oscar is for ghost and I'm sure the Grammy is for a comedy album
Emmy for Outstanding Special Class Special in 2002 for "Beyond Tara: The Extraordinary Life of Hattie McDaniel. She also had won an Emmy in 2009 for Outstanding Talk Show Host for "The View.
She has multiple Tonys, the first won in 2002 as a producer of the Broadway musical Thoroughly Modern Millie.
Yeah I can google too. Cbcbcbc
My point was you pointed out people may not know what Jennifer won for and I don't know what Whoopi won for (without looking it up)
Quote from: BrandySavedMyLife on November 25, 2023, 10:02:26 PMQuote from: DemetriusRocka 🤴🏾 on November 25, 2023, 09:38:26 PMI believe there's a lot more that goes into producing than money.
I want to see the receipts :receipts:
Lol. Just choosing the right source material is a talent. Having an eye for a what script and/or novel to tackle isn't easy, not everything you read will translate well on screen. Wisely using your budget can be a task not everybody is up for. Trying to cast a good or named actor and meeting their demands could bring up many issue including eating your budget, etc. The producer has one of hardest jobs on a set because they're incharge of so much.
Quote from: Bish on November 25, 2023, 09:37:47 PMShe played the game to get it, but I don't feel she is a true EGOT.
I low-key was waiting for Jennifer hudson to complete her EGOT.
I don't use Jennifer much but she earned hers the way they all have. John Legend didn't win an Oscar or Emmy for acting nor did he win a Tony for his performance.
And it's not over for her. Jennifer could win a few more Emmy's for her talk show, I'm sure she's going to return to Broadway later in her career.
Quote from: Monica is a liar on November 25, 2023, 10:21:13 PMQuote from: BrandySavedMyLife on November 25, 2023, 10:05:22 PMQuote from: Monica is a liar on November 25, 2023, 09:56:57 PMIdk what Whoopi has hers for either so ...
I know the Oscar is for ghost and I'm sure the Grammy is for a comedy album
Emmy for Outstanding Special Class Special in 2002 for "Beyond Tara: The Extraordinary Life of Hattie McDaniel. She also had won an Emmy in 2009 for Outstanding Talk Show Host for "The View.
She has multiple Tonys, the first won in 2002 as a producer of the Broadway musical Thoroughly Modern Millie.
Yeah I can google too. Cbcbcbc
My point was you pointed out people may not know what Jennifer won for and I don't know what Whoopi won for (without looking it up)
sorry just wanted to help out. But it makes more sense to not know what Whoopi won, she's old and this was a long time ago. Jennifer on the other hand is still one of the younger women.
Quote from: Red Ruby on November 25, 2023, 10:50:14 PMI don't use Jennifer much but she earned hers the way they all have. John Legend didn't win an Oscar or Emmy for acting nor did he win a Tony for his performance.
lol but just because u dnt win an oscar/emmy/tony in acting doesn't make it any less
Kudos Jennifer & John
The true EGOT is Viola Davis. :stressed:
Queen deserves everything she has worked hard for.
Quote from: Red Ruby on November 25, 2023, 10:50:14 PMI don't use Jennifer much but she earned hers the way they all have. John Legend didn't win an Oscar or Emmy for acting nor did he win a Tony for his performance.
well he won Best Original song at the Oscars so at least it was on his talent. His Tony was for Jesus Christ Superstar as a producer but he did also star in that musical and get nominated for his acting
Just saying King definitely put in work for everything except maybe the Emmy
tbh if you haven't PERFORMED in every category you won for, you aren't a true EGOT, imo. idc who you are.
Quote from: ivorian oph on November 26, 2023, 02:27:57 AMtbh if you haven't PERFORMED in every category you won for, you aren't a true EGOT, imo. idc who you are.
what about Viola not singing but reading for her Grammy?
Given everything Jen has had to overcome I'd def say she's more than deserving and a true winner - not only in terms of EGOT but in life
People forget that almost her entire family was killed in one day - in the most horrible and terrifying way .
Bitch , if "still standing" was a person .
The gorls love to try her for some reason but she minds her business, stays out of mess and seems like a good person.
People win awards for different talents -- singing, acting, writing, producing, etc.
They deserve the award for any credit and contribution.
this makes sense and she doesn't deserve it. I always wondered how the FUCK?
Quote from: Rxxf on November 26, 2023, 10:07:42 AMPeople win awards for different talents -- singing, acting, writing, producing, etc.
They deserve the award for any credit and contribution.
Nah, for me, being an "EGOT!" should have a different criteria. Yea give The producer a Grammy for producing a song. But calling someone the coveted EGOT! because they directed something and it won an Emmy? Nah. Did you win it for your acting role or nah
Quote from: ivorian oph on November 26, 2023, 02:27:57 AMtbh if you haven't PERFORMED in every category you won for, you aren't a true EGOT, imo. idc who you are.
Quote from: BrandySavedMyLife on November 26, 2023, 06:10:47 AMQuote from: ivorian oph on November 26, 2023, 02:27:57 AMtbh if you haven't PERFORMED in every category you won for, you aren't a true EGOT, imo. idc who you are.
what about Viola not singing but reading for her Grammy?
it's still a performance, isn't it ? :uhh:
Kandi is currently doing the same thing
maybe it's not the person being a "fraud" or "undeserving" of an EGOT
but a need to adjust our perceived value of having an EGOT
we gotta remember that the only real criteria to be an EGOT is ....to have an EGOT.
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regardless of how it's snatched. I'm sure there are plenty of people who feel artists don't deserve Grammys for their music, or Oscars for specific performances - especially in comparison to artists/actors whom they favor more.
maybe there's a feel that their work was too "lazy" or "uninspired" or even un-involved.
but ultimately that person has the trophy in their hand.
if anything, if we're questioning how a person earned the award(s), we have to question the value of these awards instead of pushing our tea onto the actor/artist in question.
if i see someone getting an award i feel they did nothing to get, i'm questioning whether the award is actually worth having (and especially if it's worth me holding in super high regard) - if it's that easy.
Jen has done nothing but mind her business and work. ultimately your beef is with the committee
Jen has always been the definition of overrated
Almost all the EGOTs got it in similar fashion so no point singling her out.
She should have won the best supporting actress Tony for the color purple. She really kilt it.
QUEEN just ATE this performance of Vision of Love in front of Mariah Carey.
This bitch really puts in the WORK. Singer, actress, The Voice coach in the USA and UK, TV host, performer, Broadway, producer, mother. You can't hate the work ethic, humbleness and the sheer grind.
Quote from: Amazing on November 26, 2023, 01:17:42 PMQUEEN just ATE this performance of Vision of Love in front of Mariah Carey.
This bitch really puts in the WORK. Singer, actress, The Voice coach in the USA and UK, TV host, performer, Broadway, producer, mother. You can't hate the work ethic, humbleness and the sheer grind.
This just proves how difficult this song is too sing because she did too much.
Quote from: ivorian oph on November 26, 2023, 11:23:37 AMQuote from: BrandySavedMyLife on November 26, 2023, 06:10:47 AMQuote from: ivorian oph on November 26, 2023, 02:27:57 AMtbh if you haven't PERFORMED in every category you won for, you aren't a true EGOT, imo. idc who you are.
what about Viola not singing but reading for her Grammy?
it's still a performance, isn't it ? :uhh:
!!!
Right lol
Quote from: Amazing on November 26, 2023, 01:17:42 PMQUEEN just ATE this performance of Vision of Love in front of Mariah Carey.
This bitch really puts in the WORK. Singer, actress, The Voice coach in the USA and UK, TV host, performer, Broadway, producer, mother. You can't hate the work ethic, humbleness and the sheer grind.
This was HORRIBLE :uhh:
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Quote from: Amazing on November 26, 2023, 01:17:42 PMQUEEN just ATE this performance of Vision of Love in front of Mariah Carey.
This bitch really puts in the WORK. Singer, actress, The Voice coach in the USA and UK, TV host, performer, Broadway, producer, mother. You can't hate the work ethic, humbleness and the sheer grind.
This was disgusting Dnndnf
But congrats to her.
I just learned today that she even is an EGOT.
Not that her's means any less. It's just EGOT's mean less overall.
All these things are too easy to get now.
I mean...Taylor has 3 AOTY awards and probably on her way to a 4th next year.
:plzstop:
These conversations are pointless to have in this era because our veteran faves had to do a whole lot more to get less.
We live in an era where one viral Tik-Tok video can get you a record contract. Not wrong or right. Just different times
I think you either love or hate her voice.
A lot of people love it but most Brandy stans wouldn't favour a voice like hers I think.
Quote from: Ｂｏｏｍｚ on November 26, 2023, 03:20:54 PMBut congrats to her.
I just learned today that she even is an EGOT.
Not that her's means any less. It's just EGOT's mean less overall.
All these things are too easy to get now.
I mean...Taylor has 3 AOTY awards and probably on her way to a 4th next year.
:plzstop:
These conversations are pointless to have in this era because our veteran faves had to do a whole lot more to get less.
We live in an era where one viral Tik-Tok video can get you a record contract. Not wrong or right. Just different times
Did u jus call me old :hmph:
Quote from: Monica is a liar on November 25, 2023, 10:21:13 PMQuote from: BrandySavedMyLife on November 25, 2023, 10:05:22 PMQuote from: Monica is a liar on November 25, 2023, 09:56:57 PMIdk what Whoopi has hers for either so ...
I know the Oscar is for ghost and I'm sure the Grammy is for a comedy album
Emmy for Outstanding Special Class Special in 2002 for "Beyond Tara: The Extraordinary Life of Hattie McDaniel. She also had won an Emmy in 2009 for Outstanding Talk Show Host for "The View.
She has multiple Tonys, the first won in 2002 as a producer of the Broadway musical Thoroughly Modern Millie.
Yeah I can google too. Cbcbcbc
My point was you pointed out people may not know what Jennifer won for and I don't know what Whoopi won for (without looking it up)
However, Whoopi worked for her accomplishments. She didn't just slap her name on something she figured would probably win.
Quote from: Amazing on November 26, 2023, 06:36:32 PMI think you either love or hate her voice.
A lot of people love it but most Brandy stans wouldn't favour a voice like hers I think.
I love Jens voice. But I think she could really shine if she lets someone coach and produce her. She needs to focus on showcasing more colors to her voice than all the screaming.
For me, when Jen gets it's right she's on another level - but a lot of times it's just too big and shouty.
ANCIENT TOPIC but its a good one
jennifers egot status is bullshit
Her Oscar ( eventhough she shouldnt have gotten that for just singing and not acting) thats like fairly legit
Her Grammy ( makes sense she released music and submited it they approved it) whatever
her TONY she lost that first nom to cynthia
and then she resubmitted for some bs show no one knows about and wins ----- fraudulent and paid for
and then she serves as an executive producer on an animated film that aired on tv and submits that for an emmy and wins? .....fraudulent and paid for
which leads me to Viola davis as well
HER 2 TONYS LEGIT
HER OSCAR LEGIT
HER EMMY LEGIT
NOW WE KNOW SHES NOT A SINGER OR COMMEDIAN TO RELEASE MUSIC OR A BODY OF RECORDED WORK TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR GRAMMY
BUT SHE SUDDENLY MAKES A MEMOIR THAT SHE NARRATES AND SUBMITS THAT NARRATION FOR A FUCKING GRAMMY? FOH
AND HAVE THE NERVE TO SAY OMG iM A EGOT WHILE ON STAGE WHO DOES THAT YEAH YOU BOUGHT AND PAID FOR THAT
Quote from: Purple Moon on November 25, 2023, 10:02:26 PMQuote from: DemetriusRocka 🤴🏾 on November 25, 2023, 09:38:26 PMI believe there's a lot more that goes into producing than money.
I want to see the receipts :receipts:
IT MAKES SENSE IF HE COMPOSED MUSIC
FOR FILM TELIVISION BROADWAY AND HIMSELF AND OTHER ARTISTS
HES A MUSICIAN