https://www.instagram.com/reel/C1ZyTURrpli/?igsh=YjFqcTRva3UxdDQw
https://x.com/mimiezaforas/status/1740267979559010490?s=
:ermm:
Why are the Barbz pissed that Trina's opinion doesn't match theirs??? :uhh:
#1 rapper, singer, artist, dancer, model, director, actor, mother.
She didn't lie
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She told the truth. She certainly doesn't sing anymore
She looks a sloppy ass mess wtf
I like her but Trina is so fuckin DUMB
Not only is she dumb for naming Beyonce (who's a singer, not a rapper)... she's dumb for not naming herself.
Girl... you are one of the biggest and most influential female rappers of all time. Your impact can be seen through a lot of girls that are out today such as City Girls, Latto, Suki, etc.
You should've just named yourself 🤷🏽�♀️
Quote from: Lucid Salvatore on December 28, 2023, 02:13:37 PMI like her but Trina is so fuckin DUMB
Not only is she dumb for naming Beyonce (who's a singer, not a rapper)... she's dumb for not naming herself.
Girl... you are one of the biggest and most influential female rappers of all time. Your impact can be seen through a lot of girls that are out today such as City Girls, Latto, Suki, etc.
You should've just named yourself 🤷🏽�♀️
I think the rationale is that saying Beyonce is like saying Jesus to these people so no one should really get that offended.
I see it. Jack of all trades self.
Queen Bey >>>>>
maybe she's on drugs
https://www.instagram.com/p/C1aNW4zOYS9/?igsh=MXVubjV1c3MyYjA5Mw==
Quote from: M-Rocka on December 28, 2023, 04:15:22 PMhttps://www.instagram.com/p/C1aNW4zOYS9/?igsh=MXVubjV1c3MyYjA5Mw==
I'm a Trina now. Barbz should all just off themselves
https://www.instagram.com/p/C1afBbVJi7w/?igsh=MXJ2a2tnc2tqZXA1Mg==
@Ulysses
Trina helped pave the way for an icki, guys. Let's not be TOTALLY stupid
bobby lytes stepped into the chat to remind the gorls that his cousin trina sold albums when it was about pure sales/CDs/cassettes and mess
now is that a shot at Nicki or Consuela? :shannonsmissing:
cuz Nicki def conquered pure sales downe before the streaming era came in.
Quote from: Ulysses on December 28, 2023, 06:32:02 PMTrina helped pave the way for an icki, guys. Let's not be TOTALLY stupid
N
Does Trina know that?
The way she used to kiss her ass
Guess she finally came to her senses
Quote from: Mongols of Russia on December 28, 2023, 06:49:08 PMbobby lytes stepped into the chat to remind the gorls that his cousin trina sold albums when it was about pure sales/CDs/cassettes and mess
now is that a shot at Nicki or Consuela? :shannonsmissing:
cuz Nicki def conquered pure sales downe before the streaming era came in.
Trina doesn't even have a platinum album.😂
She was at bottom of the barrel sales wise when it came to other female rappers during that time frame compared to the likes of Eve, Foxy, Kim,etc.
Quote from: Lazarus on December 28, 2023, 09:36:25 PMQuote from: Mongols of Russia on December 28, 2023, 06:49:08 PMbobby lytes stepped into the chat to remind the gorls that his cousin trina sold albums when it was about pure sales/CDs/cassettes and mess
now is that a shot at Nicki or Consuela? :shannonsmissing:
cuz Nicki def conquered pure sales downe before the streaming era came in.
Trina doesn't even have a platinum album.😂
She was at bottom of the barrel sales wise when it came to other female rappers during that time frame compared to the likes of Eve, Foxy, Kim,etc.
uhuuusususdsds
yeah trina is iconic but she is like the perfect example of "local"
like, she ruled Miami but outside of that its hit or miss
literally
Trina
Quote from: Mongols of Russia on December 28, 2023, 09:37:30 PMQuote from: Lazarus on December 28, 2023, 09:36:25 PMQuote from: Mongols of Russia on December 28, 2023, 06:49:08 PMbobby lytes stepped into the chat to remind the gorls that his cousin trina sold albums when it was about pure sales/CDs/cassettes and mess
now is that a shot at Nicki or Consuela? :shannonsmissing:
cuz Nicki def conquered pure sales downe before the streaming era came in.
Trina doesn't even have a platinum album.😂
She was at bottom of the barrel sales wise when it came to other female rappers during that time frame compared to the likes of Eve, Foxy, Kim,etc.
uhuuusususdsds
yeah trina is iconic but she is like the perfect example of "local"
like, she ruled Miami but outside of that its hit or miss
literally
So basically a more successful version of Rasheeda?
Because the atl gorls go up for Rash :uhh:
Oh, and Khia's gonna play HOPSCOTCH with Trina's wig
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Quote from: Dee on December 28, 2023, 10:55:29 PMTrina
Quote from: Mongols of Russia on December 28, 2023, 09:37:30 PMQuote from: Lazarus on December 28, 2023, 09:36:25 PMQuote from: Mongols of Russia on December 28, 2023, 06:49:08 PMbobby lytes stepped into the chat to remind the gorls that his cousin trina sold albums when it was about pure sales/CDs/cassettes and mess
now is that a shot at Nicki or Consuela? :shannonsmissing:
cuz Nicki def conquered pure sales downe before the streaming era came in.
Trina doesn't even have a platinum album.😂
She was at bottom of the barrel sales wise when it came to other female rappers during that time frame compared to the likes of Eve, Foxy, Kim,etc.
uhuuusususdsds
yeah trina is iconic but she is like the perfect example of "local"
like, she ruled Miami but outside of that its hit or miss
literally
So basically a more successful version of Rasheeda?
Because the atl gorls go up for Rash :uhh:
ATL gorls don't really go up for 'eeda like that tbh
As a certified ATLien I can confirm that :trannyjblige:
Every time new female artists come outta Miami they're always dripping with Trina influence
Quote from: Mongols of Russia on December 28, 2023, 09:37:30 PMQuote from: Lazarus on December 28, 2023, 09:36:25 PMQuote from: Mongols of Russia on December 28, 2023, 06:49:08 PMbobby lytes stepped into the chat to remind the gorls that his cousin trina sold albums when it was about pure sales/CDs/cassettes and mess
now is that a shot at Nicki or Consuela? :shannonsmissing:
cuz Nicki def conquered pure sales downe before the streaming era came in.
Trina doesn't even have a platinum album.😂
She was at bottom of the barrel sales wise when it came to other female rappers during that time frame compared to the likes of Eve, Foxy, Kim,etc.
uhuuusususdsds
yeah trina is iconic but she is like the perfect example of "local"
like, she ruled Miami but outside of that its hit or miss
literally
n
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Quote from: DopeSoul. on December 29, 2023, 09:30:38 AMQuote from: Mongols of Russia on December 28, 2023, 09:37:30 PMQuote from: Lazarus on December 28, 2023, 09:36:25 PMQuote from: Mongols of Russia on December 28, 2023, 06:49:08 PMbobby lytes stepped into the chat to remind the gorls that his cousin trina sold albums when it was about pure sales/CDs/cassettes and mess
now is that a shot at Nicki or Consuela? :shannonsmissing:
cuz Nicki def conquered pure sales downe before the streaming era came in.
Trina doesn't even have a platinum album.😂
She was at bottom of the barrel sales wise when it came to other female rappers during that time frame compared to the likes of Eve, Foxy, Kim,etc.
uhuuusususdsds
yeah trina is iconic but she is like the perfect example of "local"
like, she ruled Miami but outside of that its hit or miss
literally
n
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bffnnfnfnfnfnnfncj
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:roflmao:
Quote from: Dee on December 28, 2023, 10:56:09 PMOh, and Khia's gonna play HOPSCOTCH with Trina's wig
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This was my first thought seeing this thread :plzstop:
Quote from: Dee on December 28, 2023, 10:55:29 PMTrina Quote from: Mongols of Russia on December 28, 2023, 09:37:30 PMQuote from: Lazarus on December 28, 2023, 09:36:25 PMQuote from: Mongols of Russia on December 28, 2023, 06:49:08 PMbobby lytes stepped into the chat to remind the gorls that his cousin trina sold albums when it was about pure sales/CDs/cassettes and mess
now is that a shot at Nicki or Consuela? :shannonsmissing:
cuz Nicki def conquered pure sales downe before the streaming era came in.
Trina doesn't even have a platinum album.😂
She was at bottom of the barrel sales wise when it came to other female rappers during that time frame compared to the likes of Eve, Foxy, Kim,etc.
uhuuusususdsds
yeah trina is iconic but she is like the perfect example of "local"
like, she ruled Miami but outside of that its hit or miss
literally
So basically a more successful version of Rasheeda?
Because the atl gorls go up for Rash :uhh:
gh
No goes up for Rasheeda.
And I thought her and Nicki were friends?
Quote from: Gilgamesh. on December 29, 2023, 04:59:14 PMAnd I thought her and Nicki were friends?
She's been mad at Nicki ever since 2019. Nicki did a song with Trina called "BAPS" in 2019.
Nicki did her verse for FREE. Trina is mad at Nicki because she wouldn't pay for a music video and she felt like Nicki didn't do enough to promote the song. This was around the same time Nicki & Megan did the "Hot Girl Summer" song/video.
https://twitter.com/beynice1/status/1740765616267546764
She said what she said!
:letsmessfag:
Beyoncé wouldn't even give herself this title
Trina is try hard af, it's cringy
Quote from: Palladium on December 29, 2023, 06:15:04 PMBeyoncé wouldn't even give herself this title
Trina is try hard af, it's cringy
,mm,mmm,mm,m,,,mmmm
shes actually disrespecting female rap as a whole by giving fas a mess like that.
she could have said missy , shim, or someone else and still accomplished the same thing (shading or excluding nicki)
fas is the kwee of creole debauchery
and her singing, music etc is ok
Someone turn on formation
Quote from: JCJ on December 29, 2023, 06:24:40 PMSomeone turn on formation
[kosmjpicnhbougys8ftvcsscscsc
the exception is not the rule
Quote from: Ｂｏｏｍｚ on December 29, 2023, 05:58:38 PMhttps://twitter.com/beynice1/status/1740765616267546764
She said what she said!
:letsmessfag:
j;fndjksfnkdsf
standin on business self
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She kinda said what she said lol
Quote from: CHOKE on December 30, 2023, 08:18:50 AMShe kinda said what she said lol
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Why do Nicki Minaj fans want to give her credit for opening the doors for female rappers? Historically, men typically opened the doors for female rappers. From Da Brat, Foxy, Kim, Trina, etc., we typically first discovered them on records with established male rappers.
This was no different with Nicki. Not only did she follow the same formula, but she had the two biggest male rappers co-signing her. In the eight years passed, before she had any real competition, she didn't bring any up-and-coming females to open for her, feature with them, or anything. So how is she responsible for the new wave of female rappers?
The new wave of female rappers is clearly following the path of Cardi B. Cardi B used social media and reality TV, which is what most of the other girls are doing now. She also did it without a male co-sign which most girls are doing now. Cardi is responsible for the new wave because she showed that rap girls could be profitable again.
Quote from: BruceTruMusicFan on December 30, 2023, 09:39:40 AMWhy do Nicki Minaj fans want to give her credit for opening the doors for female rappers? Historically, men typically opened the doors for female rappers. From Da Brat, Foxy, Kim, Trina, etc., we typically first discovered them on records with established male rappers.
This was no different with Nicki. Not only did she follow the same formula, but she had the two biggest male rappers co-signing her. In the eight years passed, before she had any real competition, she didn't bring any up-and-coming females to open for her, feature with them, or anything. So how is she responsible for the new wave of female rappers?
The new wave of female rappers is clearly following the path of Cardi B. Cardi B used social media and reality TV, which is what most of the other girls are doing now. She also did it without a male co-sign which most girls are doing now. Cardi is responsible for the new wave because she should that rap girls could be profitable again.
Truth.
Quote from: BruceTruMusicFan on December 30, 2023, 09:39:40 AMWhy do Nicki Minaj fans want to give her credit for opening the doors for female rappers? Historically, men typically opened the doors for female rappers. From Da Brat, Foxy, Kim, Trina, etc., we typically first discovered them on records with established male rappers.
This was no different with Nicki. Not only did she follow the same formula, but she had the two biggest male rappers co-signing her. In the eight years passed, before she had any real competition, she didn't bring any up-and-coming females to open for her, feature with them, or anything. So how is she responsible for the new wave of female rappers?
The new wave of female rappers is clearly following the path of Cardi B. Cardi B used social media and reality TV, which is what most of the other girls are doing now. She also did it without a male co-sign which most girls are doing now. Cardi is responsible for the new wave because she should that rap girls could be profitable again.
oop
Consuela ain't responsible for anything but contributing that Spanglish mess she calls rap to the industry.
By your logic, it would really be Joseline who started this wave for female rappers cuz she was one of the first to use that "formula".
But consuela just happened to pop.
Every artist is using social media and reality tv these days to pivot into their c careers.
Consuela really did nothing new or unique. But act a fool en espanol. And the girls are already bored with it.
Nicki is responsible for bringing female rap back.
At a time when it was crickets for female rappers in the mainstream
Which is why she was the only one dominating for a good minute
Consuelas lil remix to the foundation that was already set by Nicki was cute
But without Nicki there may not have even been an investment into consuela.
And Nicki is still dominating and outselling her peers cuz she's that iconic
She's literally the top selling female rapper of all time. Let's get real
Quote from: Mongols of Russia on December 30, 2023, 10:31:42 AMBy your logic, it would really be Joseline who started this wave for female rappers
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put that back in your ass girl
Quote from: Mongols of Russia on December 30, 2023, 10:31:42 AMEvery artist is using social media and reality tv these days to pivot into their c careers.
Consuela really did nothing new or unique.
you're conflating tenses. "These days" is present tense. What Cardi "did" is past tense. You can't say every one is doing it now to argue that Cardi didn't do it first, or at the highest degree.
Quote from: L0NZ. on December 30, 2023, 10:48:08 AMQuote from: Mongols of Russia on December 30, 2023, 10:31:42 AMEvery artist is using social media and reality tv these days to pivot into their c careers.
Consuela really did nothing new or unique.
you're conflating tenses. "These days" is present tense. What Cardi "did" is past tense. You can't say every one is doing it now to argue that Cardi didn't do it first, or at the highest degree.
what joseline did was past tense as well. And was done before conseula .
So she's the innovator. The blueprint, if you will.
Of course this doesn't make sense to u, just as overly generous credit to consuela makes no sense to me.
Quote from: Mongols of Russia on December 30, 2023, 10:39:16 AMNicki is responsible for bringing female rap back.
At a time when it was crickets for female rappers in the mainstream
Which is why she was the only one dominating for a good minute
Consuelas lil remix to the foundation that was already set by Nicki was cute
But without Nicki there may not have even been an investment into consuela.
And Nicki is still dominating and outselling her peers cuz she's that iconic
She's literally the top selling female rapper of all time. Let's get real
No, that made the industry believe in HER. Not female rap.
If it were about female rap we would have seen the reemergence of female rappers a lot sooner, and not after a lengthy period of time where it was monopolized by Nicki and sabotaged by Nicki. She literally sat up and told Joe we should start gatekeeping again. When you gatekeep, you use your power and influence to keep something a certain way. Im sure Nicki's gatekeeping included trying to protect the integrity of rap, but also in a way that would benefit her, so don't start talking to me about Nicki not gatekeeping and sabotaging other acts to remain the ONE. She put interest into herself. Not female rap. 95% of the new girl rappers who have had success in recent years were able to do so BECAUSE of Cardi's success and that gate being knocked tf down.
Quote from: Mongols of Russia on December 30, 2023, 10:54:24 AMQuote from: L0NZ. on December 30, 2023, 10:48:08 AMQuote from: Mongols of Russia on December 30, 2023, 10:31:42 AMEvery artist is using social media and reality tv these days to pivot into their c careers.
Consuela really did nothing new or unique.
you're conflating tenses. "These days" is present tense. What Cardi "did" is past tense. You can't say every one is doing it now to argue that Cardi didn't do it first, or at the highest degree.
what joseline did was past tense as well. And was done before conseula .
So she's the innovator. The blueprint, if you will.
Of course this doesn't make sense to u, just as overly generous credit to consuela makes no sense to me.
Yea Im not entertaining Joseline opening doors for female rap. You can have that. Its asinine lmao.
Quote from: Mongols of Russia on December 30, 2023, 10:39:16 AMNicki
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Lonz - I know you love to hate Nicki but I simply ask that you back someone who's not insulting to the art and genre of rap. Is that too much to ask for? This goes for all the Anti-Barbz.
Quote from: L0NZ. on December 30, 2023, 10:55:10 AMQuote from: Mongols of Russia on December 30, 2023, 10:39:16 AMNicki is responsible for bringing female rap back.
At a time when it was crickets for female rappers in the mainstream
Which is why she was the only one dominating for a good minute
Consuelas lil remix to the foundation that was already set by Nicki was cute
But without Nicki there may not have even been an investment into consuela.
And Nicki is still dominating and outselling her peers cuz she's that iconic
She's literally the top selling female rapper of all time. Let's get real
No, that made the industry believe in HER. Not female rap.
If it were about female rap we would have seen the reemergence of female rappers a lot sooner, and not after a lengthy period of time where it was monopolized by Nicki and sabotaged by Nicki. She literally sat up and told Joe we should start gatekeeping again. When you gatekeep, you use your power and influence to keep something a certain way. Im sure Nicki's gatekeeping included trying to protect the integrity of rap, but also in a way that would benefit her, so don't start talking to me about Nicki not gatekeeping and sabotaging other acts to remain the ONE. She put interest into herself. Not female rap. 95% of the new girl rappers who have had success in recent years were able to do so BECAUSE of Cardi's success and that gate being knocked tf down.
all this propping up of consuela y'all did on here just to spite nicki
(Which obviously still continues to this day)
Yet you can't find the connection between nickis success and consuelas.
Amazing
Not really shocking tho , considering what I pointed out above.
Quote from: Red Ruby on December 30, 2023, 10:57:53 AMLonz - I know you love to hate Nicki but I simply ask that you back someone who's not insulting to the art and genre of rap. Is that too much to ask for? This goes for all the Anti-Barbz.
There's no "backing."
Cardi is the one who opened the flood gates. Nicki pretty much said the same thing in her Joe interview. She said at a certain point it became "YOUUU get a deal! YOUUUU get a deal!!! everyone gets a deal."
These are the flood gates opening. Nicki agrees, dollbaby.
So it's not picking Cardi out of the group of girls to "back", this is simply the way it happened so Cardi is going to be the subject. Duh.
Quote from: Mongols of Russia on December 30, 2023, 10:58:16 AMQuote from: L0NZ. on December 30, 2023, 10:55:10 AMQuote from: Mongols of Russia on December 30, 2023, 10:39:16 AMNicki is responsible for bringing female rap back.
At a time when it was crickets for female rappers in the mainstream
Which is why she was the only one dominating for a good minute
Consuelas lil remix to the foundation that was already set by Nicki was cute
But without Nicki there may not have even been an investment into consuela.
And Nicki is still dominating and outselling her peers cuz she's that iconic
She's literally the top selling female rapper of all time. Let's get real
No, that made the industry believe in HER. Not female rap.
If it were about female rap we would have seen the reemergence of female rappers a lot sooner, and not after a lengthy period of time where it was monopolized by Nicki and sabotaged by Nicki. She literally sat up and told Joe we should start gatekeeping again. When you gatekeep, you use your power and influence to keep something a certain way. Im sure Nicki's gatekeeping included trying to protect the integrity of rap, but also in a way that would benefit her, so don't start talking to me about Nicki not gatekeeping and sabotaging other acts to remain the ONE. She put interest into herself. Not female rap. 95% of the new girl rappers who have had success in recent years were able to do so BECAUSE of Cardi's success and that gate being knocked tf down.
all this propping up of consuela y'all did on here just to spite nicki
(Which obviously still continues to this day)
Yet you can't find the connection between nickis success and consuelas.
Amazing
Not really shocking tho , considering what I pointed out above.
Can you find the connection between Nicki's success and Joseline's?
Quote from: L0NZ. on December 30, 2023, 11:03:03 AMQuote from: Red Ruby on December 30, 2023, 10:57:53 AMLonz - I know you love to hate Nicki but I simply ask that you back someone who's not insulting to the art and genre of rap. Is that too much to ask for? This goes for all the Anti-Barbz.
There's no..
I'm blocking you for 3 days
Quote from: L0NZ. on December 30, 2023, 11:03:57 AMQuote from: Mongols of Russia on December 30, 2023, 10:58:16 AMQuote from: L0NZ. on December 30, 2023, 10:55:10 AMQuote from: Mongols of Russia on December 30, 2023, 10:39:16 AMNicki is responsible for bringing female rap back.
At a time when it was crickets for female rappers in the mainstream
Which is why she was the only one dominating for a good minute
Consuelas lil remix to the foundation that was already set by Nicki was cute
But without Nicki there may not have even been an investment into consuela.
And Nicki is still dominating and outselling her peers cuz she's that iconic
She's literally the top selling female rapper of all time. Let's get real
No, that made the industry believe in HER. Not female rap.
If it were about female rap we would have seen the reemergence of female rappers a lot sooner, and not after a lengthy period of time where it was monopolized by Nicki and sabotaged by Nicki. She literally sat up and told Joe we should start gatekeeping again. When you gatekeep, you use your power and influence to keep something a certain way. Im sure Nicki's gatekeeping included trying to protect the integrity of rap, but also in a way that would benefit her, so don't start talking to me about Nicki not gatekeeping and sabotaging other acts to remain the ONE. She put interest into herself. Not female rap. 95% of the new girl rappers who have had success in recent years were able to do so BECAUSE of Cardi's success and that gate being knocked tf down.
all this propping up of consuela y'all did on here just to spite nicki
(Which obviously still continues to this day)
Yet you can't find the connection between nickis success and consuelas.
Amazing
Not really shocking tho , considering what I pointed out above.
Can you find the connection between Nicki's success and Joseline's?
I just threw joseline in the mix of outrageous mess being said in here
Like why tf not
Quote from: Red Ruby on December 30, 2023, 11:06:17 AMQuote from: L0NZ. on December 30, 2023, 11:03:03 AMQuote from: Red Ruby on December 30, 2023, 10:57:53 AMLonz - I know you love to hate Nicki but I simply ask that you back someone who's not insulting to the art and genre of rap. Is that too much to ask for? This goes for all the Anti-Barbz.
There's no..
I'm blocking you for 3 days
You want your wig in tact, I see.
How long did it take after Nicki for another prominent female rapper to emerge?
Does the answer to that support that Nicki "opened the doors back up for female rap?"
Be honest with yourself.
Quote from: Gilgamesh. on December 29, 2023, 04:58:20 PMQuote from: Dee on December 28, 2023, 10:55:29 PMTrina Quote from: Mongols of Russia on December 28, 2023, 09:37:30 PMQuote from: Lazarus on December 28, 2023, 09:36:25 PMQuote from: Mongols of Russia on December 28, 2023, 06:49:08 PMbobby lytes stepped into the chat to remind the gorls that his cousin trina sold albums when it was about pure sales/CDs/cassettes and mess
now is that a shot at Nicki or Consuela? :shannonsmissing:
cuz Nicki def conquered pure sales downe before the streaming era came in.
Trina doesn't even have a platinum album.😂
She was at bottom of the barrel sales wise when it came to other female rappers during that time frame compared to the likes of Eve, Foxy, Kim,etc.
uhuuusususdsds
yeah trina is iconic but she is like the perfect example of "local"
like, she ruled Miami but outside of that its hit or miss
literally
So basically a more successful version of Rasheeda?
Because the atl gorls go up for Rash :uhh:
gh
No goes up for Rasheeda.
I said the ATL gorls.
What's not clicking?
Quote from: L0NZ. on December 30, 2023, 10:55:10 AMQuote from: Mongols of Russia on December 30, 2023, 10:39:16 AMNicki is responsible for bringing female rap back.
At a time when it was crickets for female rappers in the mainstream
Which is why she was the only one dominating for a good minute
Consuelas lil remix to the foundation that was already set by Nicki was cute
But without Nicki there may not have even been an investment into consuela.
And Nicki is still dominating and outselling her peers cuz she's that iconic
She's literally the top selling female rapper of all time. Let's get real
No, that made the industry believe in HER. Not female rap.
If it were about female rap we would have seen the reemergence of female rappers a lot sooner, and not after a lengthy period of time where it was monopolized by Nicki and sabotaged by Nicki. She literally sat up and told Joe we should start gatekeeping again. When you gatekeep, you use your power and influence to keep something a certain way. Im sure Nicki's gatekeeping included trying to protect the integrity of rap, but also in a way that would benefit her, so don't start talking to me about Nicki not gatekeeping and sabotaging other acts to remain the ONE. She put interest into herself. Not female rap. 95% of the new girl rappers who have had success in recent years were able to do so BECAUSE of Cardi's success and that gate being knocked tf down.
This is it! Nicki gatekept women, because she did many many songs with upcoming and trash ass male rappers. She only starting working with women post-Cardi after she began to get a lot of flack for not embracing the new girls. Even then she did so very strategically.
Quote from: Mongols of Russia on December 30, 2023, 10:58:16 AMQuote from: L0NZ. on December 30, 2023, 10:55:10 AMQuote from: Mongols of Russia on December 30, 2023, 10:39:16 AMNicki is responsible for bringing female rap back.
At a time when it was crickets for female rappers in the mainstream
Which is why she was the only one dominating for a good minute
Consuelas lil remix to the foundation that was already set by Nicki was cute
But without Nicki there may not have even been an investment into consuela.
And Nicki is still dominating and outselling her peers cuz she's that iconic
She's literally the top selling female rapper of all time. Let's get real
No, that made the industry believe in HER. Not female rap.
If it were about female rap we would have seen the reemergence of female rappers a lot sooner, and not after a lengthy period of time where it was monopolized by Nicki and sabotaged by Nicki. She literally sat up and told Joe we should start gatekeeping again. When you gatekeep, you use your power and influence to keep something a certain way. Im sure Nicki's gatekeeping included trying to protect the integrity of rap, but also in a way that would benefit her, so don't start talking to me about Nicki not gatekeeping and sabotaging other acts to remain the ONE. She put interest into herself. Not female rap. 95% of the new girl rappers who have had success in recent years were able to do so BECAUSE of Cardi's success and that gate being knocked tf down.
all this propping up of consuela y'all did on here just to spite nicki
(Which obviously still continues to this day)
Yet you can't find the connection between nickis success and consuelas.
Amazing
Not really shocking tho , considering what I pointed out above.
There is no direct relation between Nicki's success and that of Cardi B's. Why do you think it took so long to find any real competitors for Nicki? Nicki did not revive female rap music because it wasn't dead when she emerged as a mainstream artist. It declined shortly after her rise to fame.
Cardi has changed the way female rappers are signed today. Nicki's impact on rap music is not significantly greater than that of the women who came before her, simply because she followed a familiar formula: releasing mixtapes, signing with a male rapper, venturing into pop music. Artists like Eve had already done this long before her.
Nicki
should be more successful and have sold more albums the women who came before her because they broke down doors for her and her path was already laid. This also doesn't negate the fact that Nicki is the best-selling and possibly the most influential female rapper, however her overall impact is minimal.
Quote from: Mongols of Russia on December 30, 2023, 10:39:16 AMNicki is responsible for bringing female rap back.
At a time when it was crickets for female rappers in the mainstream
Which is why she was the only one dominating for a good minute
Consuelas lil remix to the foundation that was already set by Nicki was cute
But without Nicki there may not have even been an investment into consuela.
And Nicki is still dominating and outselling her peers cuz she's that iconic
She's literally the top selling female rapper of all time. Let's get real
I'm 50/50 with this.
Nicki definitely revived female rap, but the other gorls didn't get the COURAGE to really play ball until Remy came home.
They all came out to play directly after SHEther/Remy snatched that BET Award from Nicki. Literally
Quote from: BruceTruMusicFan on December 30, 2023, 09:39:40 AMWhy do Nicki Minaj fans want to give her credit for opening the doors for female rappers? Historically, men typically opened the doors for female rappers. From Da Brat, Foxy, Kim, Trina, etc., we typically first discovered them on records with established male rappers.
This was no different with Nicki. Not only did she follow the same formula, but she had the two biggest male rappers co-signing her. In the eight years passed, before she had any real competition, she didn't bring any up-and-coming females to open for her, feature with them, or anything. So how is she responsible for the new wave of female rappers?
The new wave of female rappers is clearly following the path of Cardi B. Cardi B used social media and reality TV, which is what most of the other girls are doing now. She also did it without a male co-sign which most girls are doing now. Cardi is responsible for the new wave because she showed that rap girls could be profitable again.
Lay it all out then.
:receipts:
(https://media.tenor.com/pRaYd8BOubEAAAAM/nicki-minaj.gif)
Quote from: BruceTruMusicFan on December 30, 2023, 01:03:10 PMQuote from: Mongols of Russia on December 30, 2023, 10:58:16 AMQuote from: L0NZ. on December 30, 2023, 10:55:10 AMQuote from: Mongols of Russia on December 30, 2023, 10:39:16 AMNicki is responsible for bringing female rap back.
At a time when it was crickets for female rappers in the mainstream
Which is why she was the only one dominating for a good minute
Consuelas lil remix to the foundation that was already set by Nicki was cute
But without Nicki there may not have even been an investment into consuela.
And Nicki is still dominating and outselling her peers cuz she's that iconic
She's literally the top selling female rapper of all time. Let's get real
No, that made the industry believe in HER. Not female rap.
If it were about female rap we would have seen the reemergence of female rappers a lot sooner, and not after a lengthy period of time where it was monopolized by Nicki and sabotaged by Nicki. She literally sat up and told Joe we should start gatekeeping again. When you gatekeep, you use your power and influence to keep something a certain way. Im sure Nicki's gatekeeping included trying to protect the integrity of rap, but also in a way that would benefit her, so don't start talking to me about Nicki not gatekeeping and sabotaging other acts to remain the ONE. She put interest into herself. Not female rap. 95% of the new girl rappers who have had success in recent years were able to do so BECAUSE of Cardi's success and that gate being knocked tf down.
all this propping up of consuela y'all did on here just to spite nicki
(Which obviously still continues to this day)
Yet you can't find the connection between nickis success and consuelas.
Amazing
Not really shocking tho , considering what I pointed out above.
There is no direct relation between Nicki's success and that of Cardi B's. Why do you think it took so long to find any real competitors for Nicki? Nicki did not revive female rap music because it wasn't dead when she emerged as a mainstream artist. It declined shortly after her rise to fame.
Cardi has changed the way female rappers are signed today. Nicki's impact on rap music is not significantly greater than that of the women who came before her, simply because she followed a familiar formula: releasing mixtapes, signing with a male rapper, venturing into pop music. Artists like Eve had already done this long before her.
Nicki should be more successful and have sold more albums the women who came before her because they broke down doors for her and her path was already laid. This also doesn't negate the fact that Nicki is the best-selling and possibly the most influential female rapper, however her overall impact is minimal.
Quote from: Dee on December 30, 2023, 01:13:49 PMQuote from: Mongols of Russia on December 30, 2023, 10:39:16 AMNicki is responsible for bringing female rap back.
At a time when it was crickets for female rappers in the mainstream
Which is why she was the only one dominating for a good minute
Consuelas lil remix to the foundation that was already set by Nicki was cute
But without Nicki there may not have even been an investment into consuela.
And Nicki is still dominating and outselling her peers cuz she's that iconic
She's literally the top selling female rapper of all time. Let's get real
I'm 50/50 with this.
Nicki definitely revived female rap, but the other gorls didn't get the COURAGE to really play ball until Remy came home.
They all came out to play directly after SHEther/Remy snatched that BET Award from Nicki. Literally
(http://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/553x436q70/r/922/Mvplq7.png)
Quote from: Kalifornia. on December 30, 2023, 06:15:53 PMQuote from: BruceTruMusicFan on December 30, 2023, 09:39:40 AMWhy do Nicki Minaj fans want to give her credit for opening the doors for female rappers? Historically, men typically opened the doors for female rappers. From Da Brat, Foxy, Kim, Trina, etc., we typically first discovered them on records with established male rappers.
This was no different with Nicki. Not only did she follow the same formula, but she had the two biggest male rappers co-signing her. In the eight years passed, before she had any real competition, she didn't bring any up-and-coming females to open for her, feature with them, or anything. So how is she responsible for the new wave of female rappers?
The new wave of female rappers is clearly following the path of Cardi B. Cardi B used social media and reality TV, which is what most of the other girls are doing now. She also did it without a male co-sign which most girls are doing now. Cardi is responsible for the new wave because she showed that rap girls could be profitable again.
Lay it all out then.
:receipts:
Icki knew better than to say something about this, as much as it's probably eating her up inside. If she dare say something about the REAL Queen, she would be blacklisted for real.