https://www.instagram.com/reel/C2eCKuiSwNV/
She better watch it
Janet doesn't like Beyonce....and now I guess she doesn't like her mom too
Quote from: L0NZ. on January 24, 2024, 01:51:47 PMQuote from: The definition on January 24, 2024, 01:49:15 PMJanet doesn't like Beyonce....
What makes you say that?
A lot of the Beys think that because Janet "never acknowledges her" or something
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Don't nobody need no damns TINA approval.
Bey ain't touching Jans and she kinda knows that. Next.
Quote from: JCJ on January 24, 2024, 02:57:15 PMQuote from: L0NZ. on January 24, 2024, 01:51:47 PMQuote from: The definition on January 24, 2024, 01:49:15 PMJanet doesn't like Beyonce....
What makes you say that?
A lot of the Beys think that because Janet "never acknowledges her" or something
:disgusted: never have I ever seen any Bey want janet to "acknowledge" her.
yeah I've never seen that either
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not her liking some mess and tryna save face
This is proof that Bey and them sit up and read everybody.
truthfully the entire ordeal was dumb and who cares what Tina likes on IG. Everyone kii's at random shit.
Bey surpassed janet in every single aspect. It is what it is.
Now Jans is doing chitlin Festivals. Such is life.
Well IVE seen it plenty of times on Twitter and other forums :dead:
Fas was behind this
And Tina is clearly covering for her
I know bey tore into her ass over this :plzstop: :plzstop: I would've
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:plzstop:
Quote from: Plastic. on January 24, 2024, 03:35:13 PM(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GEepnkvWQAAI79b?format=jpg&name=medium)
:plzstop:
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Did she lie?
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Quote from: JCJ on January 24, 2024, 03:16:04 PMWell IVE seen it plenty of times on Twitter and other forums :dead:
Your bitch ass is right for once.
Honestly, I think the Hive is slightly worse than the Barbz
Quote from: Red Ruby on January 24, 2024, 03:47:29 PMHonestly, I think the Hive is slightly worse than the Barbz
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when the Hive starts defending a convicted rapist and harassing his victim, lemme know
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Quote from: Nine on January 24, 2024, 03:49:40 PMQuote from: Red Ruby on January 24, 2024, 03:47:29 PMHonestly, I think the Hive is slightly worse than the Barbz
n
when the Hive starts defending a convicted rapist and harassing his victim, lemme know
(https://i.postimg.cc/BQnFXXZc/33-EC7982-0-B49-48-B7-8-B7-A-172-ECB54734-C.gif)
You really wanna go there considering Jigga's past?
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Quote from: Red Ruby on January 24, 2024, 03:51:15 PMQuote from: Nine on January 24, 2024, 03:49:40 PMQuote from: Red Ruby on January 24, 2024, 03:47:29 PMHonestly, I think the Hive is slightly worse than the Barbz
n
when the Hive starts defending a convicted rapist and harassing his victim, lemme know
(https://i.postimg.cc/BQnFXXZc/33-EC7982-0-B49-48-B7-8-B7-A-172-ECB54734-C.gif)
You really wanna go there considering Jigga'a past?
(https://i.postimg.cc/BQnFXXZc/33-EC7982-0-B49-48-B7-8-B7-A-172-ECB54734-C.gif)
when the Hive starts defending a convicted rapist and harassing his victim, lemme know
(https://i.postimg.cc/BQnFXXZc/33-EC7982-0-B49-48-B7-8-B7-A-172-ECB54734-C.gif)
Quote from: Red Ruby on January 24, 2024, 03:47:29 PMHonestly, I think the Hive is slightly worse than the Barbz
Not in a million damn years. Barbz are the most pathetic group of stans in history. I actually blame THEM for icki's shitty attitude. Text book definition of enablers also.
Quote from: Plastic. on January 24, 2024, 03:35:13 PM(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GEepnkvWQAAI79b?format=jpg&name=medium)
:plzstop:
it's not so much their economic situation
It's their parents thrusting and training and taming them to enter an industry
May not have been to get out of a bad situation but it was certainly a way to get into a better situation.
And their kids' talent was the key to the tea. As in, they were all "used".
That's the parallel . Fas may understandably be uncomfortable with people bringing that up but there are clear similarities.
But Matthew isn't nearly as toxic as Joe Jackson was. At least from what I know
And it's honestly a huge reason why there is such a GAP between Michael / Beyoncé and their peers in terms of performance and sheer work ethic
You cannot wake up one day and decide you wanna be Beyoncé just cuz you cute, and can hold a note . It's just impossible cuz you did not have that nonstop boot camp, that intensive push and training , and coaching .....years of it - to prepare you to even THINK of stepping in her lane.
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And that's not to take anything from Fas or Michael cuz ultimately they still have something about them that resonates with everyone . It's not JUST cuz they had pushy dvys .
But yes Joe Jackson and Matthew were separated at got damn birth.
Did that cushy middle-class lifestyle stop Mathew from doing drugs and cheating on Tina with prostitutes?
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wtf
There is a difference though. Mathew helped Bey become a star because SHE wanted to. They would've been fine even if she never sang a note because both of her parents were successful business owners
Same thing with ppl like Brandy and even Usher. Sonja became her manager because she wanted to protect Bran in the industry but she was working at H&R Block and Willie was a minister at church and they had a decent life
It's not like their parents were beating them forcing them to sing and dance
Oh please, nobody assumed your family was like the Jacksons in that context. And then there's only 2 children (that we know of) She tried that.
Quote from: RAY7 on January 24, 2024, 04:55:32 PMThere is a difference though. Mathew helped Bey become a star because SHE wanted to. They would've been fine even if she never sang a note because both of her parents were successful business owners
Same thing with ppl like Brandy and even Usher. Sonja became her manager because she wanted to protect Bran in the industry but she was working at H&R Block and Willie was a minister at church and they had a decent life
It's not like their parents were beating them forcing them to sing and dance
matthew was a businessman, about his money and saw an opportunity to make more money
We don't have to take the scenic route to get to that fact. And overly romanticize the mess.
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The whole reason they were in that nicer situation is because he was so focused on a coin.
Kwee was young and saying the first thing that came to mind nccnncnncnc
But actually, Matthew's reasoning for pushing Bey was selfish versus Joe's..
Quote from: Journey to Kalmykia on January 24, 2024, 05:01:53 PMQuote from: RAY7 on January 24, 2024, 04:55:32 PMThere is a difference though. Mathew helped Bey become a star because SHE wanted to. They would've been fine even if she never sang a note because both of her parents were successful business owners
Same thing with ppl like Brandy and even Usher. Sonja became her manager because she wanted to protect Bran in the industry but she was working at H&R Block and Willie was a minister at church and they had a decent life
It's not like their parents were beating them forcing them to sing and dance
matthew was a businessman, about his money and saw an opportunity to make more money
We don't have to take the scenic route to get to that fact. And overly romanticize the mess.
Bbbbbbbbbbbbb
The whole reason they were in that nicer situation is because he was so focused on a coin.
Agree with this bc all the child star parents are the same. They saw the money and fame that their children would bring.
Quote from: Journey to Kalmykia on January 24, 2024, 05:01:53 PMQuote from: RAY7 on January 24, 2024, 04:55:32 PMThere is a difference though. Mathew helped Bey become a star because SHE wanted to. They would've been fine even if she never sang a note because both of her parents were successful business owners
Same thing with ppl like Brandy and even Usher. Sonja became her manager because she wanted to protect Bran in the industry but she was working at H&R Block and Willie was a minister at church and they had a decent life
It's not like their parents were beating them forcing them to sing and dance
matthew was a businessman, about his money and saw an opportunity to make more money
We don't have to take the scenic route to get to that fact. And overly romanticize the mess.
Bbbbbbbbbbbbb
The whole reason they were in that nicer situation is because he was so focused on a coin.
Bey joined Girls Tyme as a child before Mathew became the manager. It was her dream. It wasn't Mathew's idea
Quote from: RAY7 on January 24, 2024, 05:19:43 PMQuote from: Journey to Kalmykia on January 24, 2024, 05:01:53 PMQuote from: RAY7 on January 24, 2024, 04:55:32 PMThere is a difference though. Mathew helped Bey become a star because SHE wanted to. They would've been fine even if she never sang a note because both of her parents were successful business owners
Same thing with ppl like Brandy and even Usher. Sonja became her manager because she wanted to protect Bran in the industry but she was working at H&R Block and Willie was a minister at church and they had a decent life
It's not like their parents were beating them forcing them to sing and dance
matthew was a businessman, about his money and saw an opportunity to make more money
We don't have to take the scenic route to get to that fact. And overly romanticize the mess.
Bbbbbbbbbbbbb
The whole reason they were in that nicer situation is because he was so focused on a coin.
Bey joined Girls Tyme as a child before Mathew became the manager. It was her dream. It wasn't Mathew's idea
a lot of child stars show interest in these things early on
How many kids don't wanna be a superstar or and just like the people they see on TV.
It is ultimately up to the parents to decide how invested they get into the tea.
There's no such thing as "working together" as a child with your parents . You do what they feel is best.
You are a child. They are adults.
Quote from: Plastic. on January 24, 2024, 03:35:13 PM(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GEepnkvWQAAI79b?format=jpg&name=medium)
:plzstop:
Oop! No she didn't! :dead:
I see why Janet doesn't USE
Quote from: RAY7 on January 24, 2024, 05:19:43 PMQuote from: Journey to Kalmykia on January 24, 2024, 05:01:53 PMQuote from: RAY7 on January 24, 2024, 04:55:32 PMThere is a difference though. Mathew helped Bey become a star because SHE wanted to. They would've been fine even if she never sang a note because both of her parents were successful business owners
Same thing with ppl like Brandy and even Usher. Sonja became her manager because she wanted to protect Bran in the industry but she was working at H&R Block and Willie was a minister at church and they had a decent life
It's not like their parents were beating them forcing them to sing and dance
matthew was a businessman, about his money and saw an opportunity to make more money
We don't have to take the scenic route to get to that fact. And overly romanticize the mess.
Bbbbbbbbbbbbb
The whole reason they were in that nicer situation is because he was so focused on a coin.
Bey joined Girls Tyme as a child before Mathew became the manager. It was her dream. It wasn't Mathew's idea
nnnnnnn what little girl DOESNT want to sing and dance
Quote from: L0NZ. on January 24, 2024, 04:55:34 PMOh please, nobody assumed your family was like the Jacksons in that context. And then there's only 2 children (that we know of) She tried that.
The interviewer actually likened Mathew to Joe Jackson actually and that was her response.
Quote from: Summertime on January 24, 2024, 05:04:47 PMQuote from: Journey to Kalmykia on January 24, 2024, 05:01:53 PMQuote from: RAY7 on January 24, 2024, 04:55:32 PMThere is a difference though. Mathew helped Bey become a star because SHE wanted to. They would've been fine even if she never sang a note because both of her parents were successful business owners
Same thing with ppl like Brandy and even Usher. Sonja became her manager because she wanted to protect Bran in the industry but she was working at H&R Block and Willie was a minister at church and they had a decent life
It's not like their parents were beating them forcing them to sing and dance
matthew was a businessman, about his money and saw an opportunity to make more money
We don't have to take the scenic route to get to that fact. And overly romanticize the mess.
Bbbbbbbbbbbbb
The whole reason they were in that nicer situation is because he was so focused on a coin.
Agree with this bc all the child star parents are the same. They saw the money and fame that their children would bring.
not at all accurate and a pretty wild assertion to make. were u a child star? who hurt u bby?
but yea, no group of people are "all the same". the mowry's parents don't give me that at ALL and that's just off top.
Quote from: Nine on January 24, 2024, 03:44:28 PMQuote from: Plastic. on January 24, 2024, 03:35:13 PM(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GEepnkvWQAAI79b?format=jpg&name=medium)
:plzstop:
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Did she lie?
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bvvvvvvv !!!
like... :receipts:
Quote from: ivorian oph on January 24, 2024, 05:54:19 PMQuote from: Summertime on January 24, 2024, 05:04:47 PMQuote from: Journey to Kalmykia on January 24, 2024, 05:01:53 PMQuote from: RAY7 on January 24, 2024, 04:55:32 PMThere is a difference though. Mathew helped Bey become a star because SHE wanted to. They would've been fine even if she never sang a note because both of her parents were successful business owners
Same thing with ppl like Brandy and even Usher. Sonja became her manager because she wanted to protect Bran in the industry but she was working at H&R Block and Willie was a minister at church and they had a decent life
It's not like their parents were beating them forcing them to sing and dance
matthew was a businessman, about his money and saw an opportunity to make more money
We don't have to take the scenic route to get to that fact. And overly romanticize the mess.
Bbbbbbbbbbbbb
The whole reason they were in that nicer situation is because he was so focused on a coin.
Agree with this bc all the child star parents are the same. They saw the money and fame that their children would bring.
not at all accurate and a pretty wild assertion to make. were u a child star? who hurt u bby?
but yea, no group of people are "all the same". the mowry's parents don't give me that at ALL and that's just off top.
My post shouldn't have triggered you. I am going based off of many child stars discussing their lives. Children being used to financially support their families means that their parents see fame and money over their kids heads.
Quote from: Summertime on January 24, 2024, 05:57:54 PMQuote from: ivorian oph on January 24, 2024, 05:54:19 PMQuote from: Summertime on January 24, 2024, 05:04:47 PMQuote from: Journey to Kalmykia on January 24, 2024, 05:01:53 PMQuote from: RAY7 on January 24, 2024, 04:55:32 PMThere is a difference though. Mathew helped Bey become a star because SHE wanted to. They would've been fine even if she never sang a note because both of her parents were successful business owners
Same thing with ppl like Brandy and even Usher. Sonja became her manager because she wanted to protect Bran in the industry but she was working at H&R Block and Willie was a minister at church and they had a decent life
It's not like their parents were beating them forcing them to sing and dance
matthew was a businessman, about his money and saw an opportunity to make more money
We don't have to take the scenic route to get to that fact. And overly romanticize the mess.
Bbbbbbbbbbbbb
The whole reason they were in that nicer situation is because he was so focused on a coin.
Agree with this bc all the child star parents are the same. They saw the money and fame that their children would bring.
not at all accurate and a pretty wild assertion to make. were u a child star? who hurt u bby?
but yea, no group of people are "all the same". the mowry's parents don't give me that at ALL and that's just off top.
My post shouldn't have triggered you. I am going based off of many child stars discussing their lives. Children being used to financially support their families means that their parents see fame and money over their kids heads.
oh i wasn't triggered. you actually seemed a lil triggered that's why i asked who hurt u my bby, no shade
and yes what youre saying is true, just not for ALL. that's why i gave a quick example.
Quote from: ivorian oph on January 24, 2024, 06:08:53 PMQuote from: Summertime on January 24, 2024, 05:57:54 PMQuote from: ivorian oph on January 24, 2024, 05:54:19 PMQuote from: Summertime on January 24, 2024, 05:04:47 PMQuote from: Journey to Kalmykia on January 24, 2024, 05:01:53 PMQuote from: RAY7 on January 24, 2024, 04:55:32 PMThere is a difference though. Mathew helped Bey become a star because SHE wanted to. They would've been fine even if she never sang a note because both of her parents were successful business owners
Same thing with ppl like Brandy and even Usher. Sonja became her manager because she wanted to protect Bran in the industry but she was working at H&R Block and Willie was a minister at church and they had a decent life
It's not like their parents were beating them forcing them to sing and dance
matthew was a businessman, about his money and saw an opportunity to make more money
We don't have to take the scenic route to get to that fact. And overly romanticize the mess.
Bbbbbbbbbbbbb
The whole reason they were in that nicer situation is because he was so focused on a coin.
Agree with this bc all the child star parents are the same. They saw the money and fame that their children would bring.
not at all accurate and a pretty wild assertion to make. were u a child star? who hurt u bby?
but yea, no group of people are "all the same". the mowry's parents don't give me that at ALL and that's just off top.
My post shouldn't have triggered you. I am going based off of many child stars discussing their lives. Children being used to financially support their families means that their parents see fame and money over their kids heads.
oh i wasn't triggered. you actually seemed a lil triggered that's why i asked who hurt u my bby, no shade
and yes what youre saying is true, just not for ALL. that's why i gave a quick example.
Okay baby I will restate what I wrote since it triggered you. All child star parents are the same. They saw the fame and money their children would bring in. Hence them signing their kids up to be part of show business. Kids supporting their families financially mean their parents wanted to be financially supported by their kids.
Quote from: L0NZ. on January 24, 2024, 05:35:43 PMQuote from: RAY7 on January 24, 2024, 05:19:43 PMQuote from: Journey to Kalmykia on January 24, 2024, 05:01:53 PMQuote from: RAY7 on January 24, 2024, 04:55:32 PMThere is a difference though. Mathew helped Bey become a star because SHE wanted to. They would've been fine even if she never sang a note because both of her parents were successful business owners
Same thing with ppl like Brandy and even Usher. Sonja became her manager because she wanted to protect Bran in the industry but she was working at H&R Block and Willie was a minister at church and they had a decent life
It's not like their parents were beating them forcing them to sing and dance
matthew was a businessman, about his money and saw an opportunity to make more money
We don't have to take the scenic route to get to that fact. And overly romanticize the mess.
Bbbbbbbbbbbbb
The whole reason they were in that nicer situation is because he was so focused on a coin.
Bey joined Girls Tyme as a child before Mathew became the manager. It was her dream. It wasn't Mathew's idea
nnnnnnn what little girl DOESNT want to sing and dance
the billions in the world who can't sing or dance and would rather be doctors, lawyers or whatever else
Quote from: Journey to Kalmykia on January 24, 2024, 05:26:08 PMQuote from: RAY7 on January 24, 2024, 05:19:43 PMQuote from: Journey to Kalmykia on January 24, 2024, 05:01:53 PMQuote from: RAY7 on January 24, 2024, 04:55:32 PMThere is a difference though. Mathew helped Bey become a star because SHE wanted to. They would've been fine even if she never sang a note because both of her parents were successful business owners
Same thing with ppl like Brandy and even Usher. Sonja became her manager because she wanted to protect Bran in the industry but she was working at H&R Block and Willie was a minister at church and they had a decent life
It's not like their parents were beating them forcing them to sing and dance
matthew was a businessman, about his money and saw an opportunity to make more money
We don't have to take the scenic route to get to that fact. And overly romanticize the mess.
Bbbbbbbbbbbbb
The whole reason they were in that nicer situation is because he was so focused on a coin.
Bey joined Girls Tyme as a child before Mathew became the manager. It was her dream. It wasn't Mathew's idea
a lot of child stars show interest in these things early on
How many kids don't wanna be a superstar or and just like the people they see on TV.
It is ultimately up to the parents to decide how invested they get into the tea.
There's no such thing as "working together" as a child with your parents . You do what they feel is best.
You are a child. They are adults.
I get what you're saying but there's a difference when a parent is helping a child do something the child wants vs a parent pushing a child to do things they didn't want to do
Look at Blu. She asked to dance on tour with Bey. Bey did not push her out there and actually was nervous about it but she supported what her child wanted.
Quote from: RAY7 on January 24, 2024, 06:54:07 PMQuote from: Journey to Kalmykia on January 24, 2024, 05:26:08 PMQuote from: RAY7 on January 24, 2024, 05:19:43 PMQuote from: Journey to Kalmykia on January 24, 2024, 05:01:53 PMQuote from: RAY7 on January 24, 2024, 04:55:32 PMThere is a difference though. Mathew helped Bey become a star because SHE wanted to. They would've been fine even if she never sang a note because both of her parents were successful business owners
Same thing with ppl like Brandy and even Usher. Sonja became her manager because she wanted to protect Bran in the industry but she was working at H&R Block and Willie was a minister at church and they had a decent life
It's not like their parents were beating them forcing them to sing and dance
matthew was a businessman, about his money and saw an opportunity to make more money
We don't have to take the scenic route to get to that fact. And overly romanticize the mess.
Bbbbbbbbbbbbb
The whole reason they were in that nicer situation is because he was so focused on a coin.
Bey joined Girls Tyme as a child before Mathew became the manager. It was her dream. It wasn't Mathew's idea
a lot of child stars show interest in these things early on
How many kids don't wanna be a superstar or and just like the people they see on TV.
It is ultimately up to the parents to decide how invested they get into the tea.
There's no such thing as "working together" as a child with your parents . You do what they feel is best.
You are a child. They are adults.
I get what you're saying but there's a difference when a parent is helping a child do something the child wants vs a parent pushing a child to do things they didn't want to do
Look at Blu. She asked to dance on tour with Bey. Bey did not push her out there and actually was nervous about it but she supported what her child wanted.
right. She was nervous and careful about it
she didn't push her out, book her photo shoots and come up with her stage name.
As the parent, she's deciding how invested Blu will get into things before she's truly old enough to understand (and honestly, CONSENT to) what comes with it.
Being on stage with mommy for a couple shows is something cute.
Quote from: RAY7 on January 24, 2024, 06:54:07 PMQuote from: Journey to Kalmykia on January 24, 2024, 05:26:08 PMQuote from: RAY7 on January 24, 2024, 05:19:43 PMQuote from: Journey to Kalmykia on January 24, 2024, 05:01:53 PMQuote from: RAY7 on January 24, 2024, 04:55:32 PMThere is a difference though. Mathew helped Bey become a star because SHE wanted to. They would've been fine even if she never sang a note because both of her parents were successful business owners
Same thing with ppl like Brandy and even Usher. Sonja became her manager because she wanted to protect Bran in the industry but she was working at H&R Block and Willie was a minister at church and they had a decent life
It's not like their parents were beating them forcing them to sing and dance
matthew was a businessman, about his money and saw an opportunity to make more money
We don't have to take the scenic route to get to that fact. And overly romanticize the mess.
Bbbbbbbbbbbbb
The whole reason they were in that nicer situation is because he was so focused on a coin.
Bey joined Girls Tyme as a child before Mathew became the manager. It was her dream. It wasn't Mathew's idea
a lot of child stars show interest in these things early on
How many kids don't wanna be a superstar or and just like the people they see on TV.
It is ultimately up to the parents to decide how invested they get into the tea.
There's no such thing as "working together" as a child with your parents . You do what they feel is best.
You are a child. They are adults.
I get what you're saying but there's a difference when a parent is helping a child do something the child wants vs a parent pushing a child to do things they didn't want to do
Youre saying they wanted to be in bootcamp?
Quote from: Journey to Kalmykia on January 24, 2024, 07:04:00 PMQuote from: RAY7 on January 24, 2024, 06:54:07 PMQuote from: Journey to Kalmykia on January 24, 2024, 05:26:08 PMQuote from: RAY7 on January 24, 2024, 05:19:43 PMQuote from: Journey to Kalmykia on January 24, 2024, 05:01:53 PMQuote from: RAY7 on January 24, 2024, 04:55:32 PMThere is a difference though. Mathew helped Bey become a star because SHE wanted to. They would've been fine even if she never sang a note because both of her parents were successful business owners
Same thing with ppl like Brandy and even Usher. Sonja became her manager because she wanted to protect Bran in the industry but she was working at H&R Block and Willie was a minister at church and they had a decent life
It's not like their parents were beating them forcing them to sing and dance
matthew was a businessman, about his money and saw an opportunity to make more money
We don't have to take the scenic route to get to that fact. And overly romanticize the mess.
Bbbbbbbbbbbbb
The whole reason they were in that nicer situation is because he was so focused on a coin.
Bey joined Girls Tyme as a child before Mathew became the manager. It was her dream. It wasn't Mathew's idea
a lot of child stars show interest in these things early on
How many kids don't wanna be a superstar or and just like the people they see on TV.
It is ultimately up to the parents to decide how invested they get into the tea.
There's no such thing as "working together" as a child with your parents . You do what they feel is best.
You are a child. They are adults.
I get what you're saying but there's a difference when a parent is helping a child do something the child wants vs a parent pushing a child to do things they didn't want to do
Look at Blu. She asked to dance on tour with Bey. Bey did not push her out there and actually was nervous about it but she supported what her child wanted.
right. She was nervous and careful about it
she didn't push her out, book her photo shoots and come up with her stage name.
As the parent, she's deciding how invested Blu will get into things before she's truly old enough to understand (and honestly, CONSENT to) what comes with it.
Being on stage with mommy for a couple shows is something cute.
maybe because all Blu asked for was to dance? She sang on Brown Skin Girl too
When you have the means, you can let your child pursue whatever THEY want
Quote from: RAY7 on January 24, 2024, 06:47:52 PMQuote from: L0NZ. on January 24, 2024, 05:35:43 PMQuote from: RAY7 on January 24, 2024, 05:19:43 PMQuote from: Journey to Kalmykia on January 24, 2024, 05:01:53 PMQuote from: RAY7 on January 24, 2024, 04:55:32 PMThere is a difference though. Mathew helped Bey become a star because SHE wanted to. They would've been fine even if she never sang a note because both of her parents were successful business owners
Same thing with ppl like Brandy and even Usher. Sonja became her manager because she wanted to protect Bran in the industry but she was working at H&R Block and Willie was a minister at church and they had a decent life
It's not like their parents were beating them forcing them to sing and dance
matthew was a businessman, about his money and saw an opportunity to make more money
We don't have to take the scenic route to get to that fact. And overly romanticize the mess.
Bbbbbbbbbbbbb
The whole reason they were in that nicer situation is because he was so focused on a coin.
Bey joined Girls Tyme as a child before Mathew became the manager. It was her dream. It wasn't Mathew's idea
nnnnnnn what little girl DOESNT want to sing and dance
the billions in the world who can't sing or dance and would rather be doctors, lawyers or whatever else
All of them sing and dance around with hairbrushes hun. She sang around the house! Made up a group!
Does anyone know what Michael actually wanted to do with his life, since being an entertainer wasn't his choice?
Quote from: L0NZ. on January 24, 2024, 07:15:39 PMQuote from: RAY7 on January 24, 2024, 06:54:07 PMQuote from: Journey to Kalmykia on January 24, 2024, 05:26:08 PMQuote from: RAY7 on January 24, 2024, 05:19:43 PMQuote from: Journey to Kalmykia on January 24, 2024, 05:01:53 PMQuote from: RAY7 on January 24, 2024, 04:55:32 PMThere is a difference though. Mathew helped Bey become a star because SHE wanted to. They would've been fine even if she never sang a note because both of her parents were successful business owners
Same thing with ppl like Brandy and even Usher. Sonja became her manager because she wanted to protect Bran in the industry but she was working at H&R Block and Willie was a minister at church and they had a decent life
It's not like their parents were beating them forcing them to sing and dance
matthew was a businessman, about his money and saw an opportunity to make more money
We don't have to take the scenic route to get to that fact. And overly romanticize the mess.
Bbbbbbbbbbbbb
The whole reason they were in that nicer situation is because he was so focused on a coin.
Bey joined Girls Tyme as a child before Mathew became the manager. It was her dream. It wasn't Mathew's idea
a lot of child stars show interest in these things early on
How many kids don't wanna be a superstar or and just like the people they see on TV.
It is ultimately up to the parents to decide how invested they get into the tea.
There's no such thing as "working together" as a child with your parents . You do what they feel is best.
You are a child. They are adults.
I get what you're saying but there's a difference when a parent is helping a child do something the child wants vs a parent pushing a child to do things they didn't want to do
Youre saying they wanted to be in bootcamp?
if that's what it took to hone their craft, yes
Quote from: L0NZ. on January 24, 2024, 07:16:06 PMQuote from: RAY7 on January 24, 2024, 06:47:52 PMQuote from: L0NZ. on January 24, 2024, 05:35:43 PMQuote from: RAY7 on January 24, 2024, 05:19:43 PMQuote from: Journey to Kalmykia on January 24, 2024, 05:01:53 PMQuote from: RAY7 on January 24, 2024, 04:55:32 PMThere is a difference though. Mathew helped Bey become a star because SHE wanted to. They would've been fine even if she never sang a note because both of her parents were successful business owners
Same thing with ppl like Brandy and even Usher. Sonja became her manager because she wanted to protect Bran in the industry but she was working at H&R Block and Willie was a minister at church and they had a decent life
It's not like their parents were beating them forcing them to sing and dance
matthew was a businessman, about his money and saw an opportunity to make more money
We don't have to take the scenic route to get to that fact. And overly romanticize the mess.
Bbbbbbbbbbbbb
The whole reason they were in that nicer situation is because he was so focused on a coin.
Bey joined Girls Tyme as a child before Mathew became the manager. It was her dream. It wasn't Mathew's idea
nnnnnnn what little girl DOESNT want to sing and dance
the billions in the world who can't sing or dance and would rather be doctors, lawyers or whatever else
All of them sing and dance around with hairbrushes hun. She sang around the house! Made up a group!
who sang around the house?
Quote from: RAY7 on January 24, 2024, 07:15:59 PMQuote from: Journey to Kalmykia on January 24, 2024, 07:04:00 PMQuote from: RAY7 on January 24, 2024, 06:54:07 PMQuote from: Journey to Kalmykia on January 24, 2024, 05:26:08 PMQuote from: RAY7 on January 24, 2024, 05:19:43 PMQuote from: Journey to Kalmykia on January 24, 2024, 05:01:53 PMQuote from: RAY7 on January 24, 2024, 04:55:32 PMThere is a difference though. Mathew helped Bey become a star because SHE wanted to. They would've been fine even if she never sang a note because both of her parents were successful business owners
Same thing with ppl like Brandy and even Usher. Sonja became her manager because she wanted to protect Bran in the industry but she was working at H&R Block and Willie was a minister at church and they had a decent life
It's not like their parents were beating them forcing them to sing and dance
matthew was a businessman, about his money and saw an opportunity to make more money
We don't have to take the scenic route to get to that fact. And overly romanticize the mess.
Bbbbbbbbbbbbb
The whole reason they were in that nicer situation is because he was so focused on a coin.
Bey joined Girls Tyme as a child before Mathew became the manager. It was her dream. It wasn't Mathew's idea
a lot of child stars show interest in these things early on
How many kids don't wanna be a superstar or and just like the people they see on TV.
It is ultimately up to the parents to decide how invested they get into the tea.
There's no such thing as "working together" as a child with your parents . You do what they feel is best.
You are a child. They are adults.
I get what you're saying but there's a difference when a parent is helping a child do something the child wants vs a parent pushing a child to do things they didn't want to do
Look at Blu. She asked to dance on tour with Bey. Bey did not push her out there and actually was nervous about it but she supported what her child wanted.
right. She was nervous and careful about it
she didn't push her out, book her photo shoots and come up with her stage name.
As the parent, she's deciding how invested Blu will get into things before she's truly old enough to understand (and honestly, CONSENT to) what comes with it.
Being on stage with mommy for a couple shows is something cute.
maybe because all Blu asked for was to dance? She sang on Brown Skin Girl too
When you have the means, you can let your child pursue whatever THEY want
this is all great but ultimately the #1 thing show moms say is "it's what my child wanted. I just supported it"
While everyone on the outside can clearly see the show parent wanted it for their own reasons.
That's why Matt and Joe are seen the same.
Let's get back to the basics.
Dnndndnd and reality
I just wouldn't say a it's a child's drea
Quote from: RAY7 on January 24, 2024, 07:18:22 PMQuote from: L0NZ. on January 24, 2024, 07:15:39 PMQuote from: RAY7 on January 24, 2024, 06:54:07 PMQuote from: Journey to Kalmykia on January 24, 2024, 05:26:08 PMQuote from: RAY7 on January 24, 2024, 05:19:43 PMQuote from: Journey to Kalmykia on January 24, 2024, 05:01:53 PMQuote from: RAY7 on January 24, 2024, 04:55:32 PMThere is a difference though. Mathew helped Bey become a star because SHE wanted to. They would've been fine even if she never sang a note because both of her parents were successful business owners
Same thing with ppl like Brandy and even Usher. Sonja became her manager because she wanted to protect Bran in the industry but she was working at H&R Block and Willie was a minister at church and they had a decent life
It's not like their parents were beating them forcing them to sing and dance
matthew was a businessman, about his money and saw an opportunity to make more money
We don't have to take the scenic route to get to that fact. And overly romanticize the mess.
Bbbbbbbbbbbbb
The whole reason they were in that nicer situation is because he was so focused on a coin.
Bey joined Girls Tyme as a child before Mathew became the manager. It was her dream. It wasn't Mathew's idea
a lot of child stars show interest in these things early on
How many kids don't wanna be a superstar or and just like the people they see on TV.
It is ultimately up to the parents to decide how invested they get into the tea.
There's no such thing as "working together" as a child with your parents . You do what they feel is best.
You are a child. They are adults.
I get what you're saying but there's a difference when a parent is helping a child do something the child wants vs a parent pushing a child to do things they didn't want to do
Youre saying they wanted to be in bootcamp?
if that's what it took to hone their craft, yes
Would there have been a bootcamp without Matthew making them do it?
Quote from: Journey to Kalmykia on January 24, 2024, 07:28:21 PMQuote from: RAY7 on January 24, 2024, 07:15:59 PMQuote from: Journey to Kalmykia on January 24, 2024, 07:04:00 PMQuote from: RAY7 on January 24, 2024, 06:54:07 PMQuote from: Journey to Kalmykia on January 24, 2024, 05:26:08 PMQuote from: RAY7 on January 24, 2024, 05:19:43 PMQuote from: Journey to Kalmykia on January 24, 2024, 05:01:53 PMQuote from: RAY7 on January 24, 2024, 04:55:32 PMThere is a difference though. Mathew helped Bey become a star because SHE wanted to. They would've been fine even if she never sang a note because both of her parents were successful business owners
Same thing with ppl like Brandy and even Usher. Sonja became her manager because she wanted to protect Bran in the industry but she was working at H&R Block and Willie was a minister at church and they had a decent life
It's not like their parents were beating them forcing them to sing and dance
matthew was a businessman, about his money and saw an opportunity to make more money
We don't have to take the scenic route to get to that fact. And overly romanticize the mess.
Bbbbbbbbbbbbb
The whole reason they were in that nicer situation is because he was so focused on a coin.
Bey joined Girls Tyme as a child before Mathew became the manager. It was her dream. It wasn't Mathew's idea
a lot of child stars show interest in these things early on
How many kids don't wanna be a superstar or and just like the people they see on TV.
It is ultimately up to the parents to decide how invested they get into the tea.
There's no such thing as "working together" as a child with your parents . You do what they feel is best.
You are a child. They are adults.
I get what you're saying but there's a difference when a parent is helping a child do something the child wants vs a parent pushing a child to do things they didn't want to do
Look at Blu. She asked to dance on tour with Bey. Bey did not push her out there and actually was nervous about it but she supported what her child wanted.
right. She was nervous and careful about it
she didn't push her out, book her photo shoots and come up with her stage name.
As the parent, she's deciding how invested Blu will get into things before she's truly old enough to understand (and honestly, CONSENT to) what comes with it.
Being on stage with mommy for a couple shows is something cute.
maybe because all Blu asked for was to dance? She sang on Brown Skin Girl too
When you have the means, you can let your child pursue whatever THEY want
this is all great but ultimately the #1 thing show moms say is "it's what my child wanted. I just supported it"
While everyone on the outside can clearly say the show parent wanted it for their own reasons.
That's why Matt and Joe are seen the same.
Let's get back to the basics.
Dnndndnd and reality
n. Same goal, different means.
Like didn't Matthew quit his job mess? Ch. At that point Im 100% SURE it was giving "unt uhn.... this GONE HAVE TO WORK."
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:plzstop:
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Did she lie?
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lol Yes, her assuming the parents were in it all for themselves. Most people in the hood try to find ways to get their kids in a better situation. Joe just recognized that he had talented kids, and that should get them out of the hood.
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:plzstop:
dsdfsfklmfsksdf'sdf
Did she lie?
(https://i.gifer.com/Uk7.gif)
lol Yes, her assuming the parents were in it all for themselves. Most people in the hood try to find ways to get their kids in a better situation. Joe just recognized that he had talented kids, and that should get them out of the hood.
wait, didn't Michael actually "love dancing and singing" too?
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yeah that's always how these stories start off tbh.
there has to be a certain talent and energy there for a parent to PUSH.
for Michael, it was clearly innate . something in him that jumped out at everyone, something that his brothers didn't have
and his father wanted to capitalize on that. michael loved to dance and sing, but as a manager/parent, Joe (and Matthew) literally made it their business to make sure their children understood it's a business.
From how it was shown in the Jackson 5 movie, the kids started singing and playing Joe's guitar on their own. Most of them were only thinking about winning talent shows at school and things, but Michael already wanted to be a star like his his favorite singer, James Brown.
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:plzstop:
dsdfsfklmfsksdf'sdf
Did she lie?
(https://i.gifer.com/Uk7.gif)
lol Yes, her assuming the parents were in it all for themselves. Most people in the hood try to find ways to get their kids in a better situation. Joe just recognized that he had talented kids, and that should get them out of the hood.
wait, didn't Michael actually "love dancing and singing" too?
sdsdsdssdsdds
yeah that's always how these stories start off tbh.
there has to be a certain talent and energy there for a parent to PUSH.
for Michael, it was clearly innate . something in him that jumped out at everyone, something that his brothers didn't have
and his father wanted to capitalize on that. michael loved to dance and sing, but as a manager/parent, Joe (and Matthew) literally made it their business to make sure their children understood it's a business.
thats cool for Michael
What about the other 9 kids?
Quote from: L0NZ. on January 24, 2024, 07:32:56 PMLike didn't Matthew quit his job mess? Ch. At that point Im 100% SURE it was giving "unt uhn.... this GONE HAVE TO WORK."
after Girls Tyme lost on Star Search he then quit his job to become manager
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:plzstop:
dsdfsfklmfsksdf'sdf
Did she lie?
(https://i.gifer.com/Uk7.gif)
lol Yes, her assuming the parents were in it all for themselves. Most people in the hood try to find ways to get their kids in a better situation. Joe just recognized that he had talented kids, and that should get them out of the hood.
wait, didn't Michael actually "love dancing and singing" too?
sdsdsdssdsdds
yeah that's always how these stories start off tbh.
there has to be a certain talent and energy there for a parent to PUSH.
for Michael, it was clearly innate . something in him that jumped out at everyone, something that his brothers didn't have
and his father wanted to capitalize on that. michael loved to dance and sing, but as a manager/parent, Joe (and Matthew) literally made it their business to make sure their children understood it's a business.
thats cool for Michael
What about the other 9 kids?
yeah I'm looking up tea on Joe and Janet
Janet did not want to be a singer at all, but Joe told her that's what she was gonna be.
https://www.cheatsheet.com/entertainment/janet-jackson-never-wanted-singer.html/
Joe was horrible.
although there are parallels between him and Matt, as i said earlier in here...he was MUCH more toxic.
poor Jans.
Quote from: Journey to Kalmykia on January 24, 2024, 08:26:06 PMQuote from: The Brandy Barbie on January 24, 2024, 08:16:50 PMQuote from: Nine on January 24, 2024, 03:44:28 PMQuote from: Plastic. on January 24, 2024, 03:35:13 PM(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GEepnkvWQAAI79b?format=jpg&name=medium)
:plzstop:
dsdfsfklmfsksdf'sdf
Did she lie?
(https://i.gifer.com/Uk7.gif)
lol Yes, her assuming the parents were in it all for themselves. Most people in the hood try to find ways to get their kids in a better situation. Joe just recognized that he had talented kids, and that should get them out of the hood.
wait, didn't Michael actually "love dancing and singing" too?
sdsdsdssdsdds
yeah that's always how these stories start off tbh.
there has to be a certain talent and energy there for a parent to PUSH.
for Michael, it was clearly innate . something in him that jumped out at everyone, something that his brothers didn't have
and his father wanted to capitalize on that. michael loved to dance and sing, but as a manager/parent, Joe (and Matthew) literally made it their business to make sure their children understood it's a business.
So damn just like Bey'nem
Quote from: Journey to Kalmykia on January 24, 2024, 08:26:06 PMQuote from: The Brandy Barbie on January 24, 2024, 08:16:50 PMQuote from: Nine on January 24, 2024, 03:44:28 PMQuote from: Plastic. on January 24, 2024, 03:35:13 PM(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GEepnkvWQAAI79b?format=jpg&name=medium)
:plzstop:
dsdfsfklmfsksdf'sdf
Did she lie?
(https://i.gifer.com/Uk7.gif)
lol Yes, her assuming the parents were in it all for themselves. Most people in the hood try to find ways to get their kids in a better situation. Joe just recognized that he had talented kids, and that should get them out of the hood.
wait, didn't Michael actually "love dancing and singing" too?
sdsdsdssdsdds
yeah that's always how these stories start off tbh.
there has to be a certain talent and energy there for a parent to PUSH.
for Michael, it was clearly innate . something in him that jumped out at everyone, something that his brothers didn't have
and his father wanted to capitalize on that. michael loved to dance and sing, but as a manager/parent, Joe (and Matthew) literally made it their business to make sure their children understood it's a business.
The bolded is so true even when it comes to queen. Ray J said they were put in acting classes at 1 or 3 or 2 or 4. That is why I wish for her to do what she desires now since she has longed fulfilled what her parents wanted for her life.
Taylor Swift's dad's comments from a long time ago when she was 13 just came out in a lawsuit against her former manager and he said at the time he will do anything to make her famous.
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:plzstop:
dsdfsfklmfsksdf'sdf
Did she lie?
(https://i.gifer.com/Uk7.gif)
lol Yes, her assuming the parents were in it all for themselves. Most people in the hood try to find ways to get their kids in a better situation. Joe just recognized that he had talented kids, and that should get them out of the hood.
wait, didn't Michael actually "love dancing and singing" too?
sdsdsdssdsdds
yeah that's always how these stories start off tbh.
there has to be a certain talent and energy there for a parent to PUSH.
for Michael, it was clearly innate . something in him that jumped out at everyone, something that his brothers didn't have
and his father wanted to capitalize on that. michael loved to dance and sing, but as a manager/parent, Joe (and Matthew) literally made it their business to make sure their children understood it's a business.
thats cool for Michael
What about the other 9 kids?
yeah I'm looking up tea on Joe and Janet
Janet did not want to be a singer at all, but Joe told her that's what she was gonna be.
https://www.cheatsheet.com/entertainment/janet-jackson-never-wanted-singer.html/
Joe was horrible.
although there are parallels between him and Matt, as i said earlier in here...he was MUCH more toxic.
poor Jans.
see this is what Bey was talking about. She had the opportunity to choose. Mathew and Tina would've definitely let Bey become a lawyer or whatever she asked.
But I mean, being fully unbiased, Mathew is still a lying, cheating, POS. Just one thing he was is a good father (to Tina's kids only lol)
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:plzstop:
dsdfsfklmfsksdf'sdf
Did she lie?
(https://i.gifer.com/Uk7.gif)
lol Yes, her assuming the parents were in it all for themselves. Most people in the hood try to find ways to get their kids in a better situation. Joe just recognized that he had talented kids, and that should get them out of the hood.
wait, didn't Michael actually "love dancing and singing" too?
sdsdsdssdsdds
yeah that's always how these stories start off tbh.
there has to be a certain talent and energy there for a parent to PUSH.
for Michael, it was clearly innate . something in him that jumped out at everyone, something that his brothers didn't have
and his father wanted to capitalize on that. michael loved to dance and sing, but as a manager/parent, Joe (and Matthew) literally made it their business to make sure their children understood it's a business.
thats cool for Michael
What about the other 9 kids?
yeah I'm looking up tea on Joe and Janet
Janet did not want to be a singer at all, but Joe told her that's what she was gonna be.
https://www.cheatsheet.com/entertainment/janet-jackson-never-wanted-singer.html/
Joe was horrible.
although there are parallels between him and Matt, as i said earlier in here...he was MUCH more toxic.
poor Jans.
see this is what Bey was talking about.
not so fast though
for the most part, the brothers still had this "Girls Tyme" story you're pushing themselves.
the narrative is that they proactively took interest in music and performing.
QuoteIn 1964, Joe found Tito playing with his guitar after a string broke, and he was impressed enough to buy him his own guitar. Tito, Jermaine, and Jackie later formed their own group, with Michael (age 5) playing congas and childhood friends Reynaud Jones and Milford Hite playing keyboards and drums in 1965. Marlon joined on tambourine in August 1965, when Evelyn LaHaie suggested that the group name themselves the Jackson Five Singing Group.[1]
By the time Joe was telling Janet she'd be a singer , music had already become the family's business. So he kinda just threw her in the mix .
Quote from: Journey to Kalmykia on January 24, 2024, 09:11:35 PMQuote from: RAY7 on January 24, 2024, 09:08:57 PMQuote from: Journey to Kalmykia on January 24, 2024, 08:57:22 PMQuote from: RAY7 on January 24, 2024, 08:47:23 PMQuote from: Journey to Kalmykia on January 24, 2024, 08:26:06 PMQuote from: The Brandy Barbie on January 24, 2024, 08:16:50 PMQuote from: Nine on January 24, 2024, 03:44:28 PMQuote from: Plastic. on January 24, 2024, 03:35:13 PM(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GEepnkvWQAAI79b?format=jpg&name=medium)
:plzstop:
dsdfsfklmfsksdf'sdf
Did she lie?
(https://i.gifer.com/Uk7.gif)
lol Yes, her assuming the parents were in it all for themselves. Most people in the hood try to find ways to get their kids in a better situation. Joe just recognized that he had talented kids, and that should get them out of the hood.
wait, didn't Michael actually "love dancing and singing" too?
sdsdsdssdsdds
yeah that's always how these stories start off tbh.
there has to be a certain talent and energy there for a parent to PUSH.
for Michael, it was clearly innate . something in him that jumped out at everyone, something that his brothers didn't have
and his father wanted to capitalize on that. michael loved to dance and sing, but as a manager/parent, Joe (and Matthew) literally made it their business to make sure their children understood it's a business.
thats cool for Michael
What about the other 9 kids?
yeah I'm looking up tea on Joe and Janet
Janet did not want to be a singer at all, but Joe told her that's what she was gonna be.
https://www.cheatsheet.com/entertainment/janet-jackson-never-wanted-singer.html/
Joe was horrible.
although there are parallels between him and Matt, as i said earlier in here...he was MUCH more toxic.
poor Jans.
see this is what Bey was talking about.
not so fast though
for the most part, the brothers still had this "Girls Tyme" story you're pushing themselves.
the narrative is that they proactively took interest in music and performing.
QuoteIn 1964, Joe found Tito playing with his guitar after a string broke, and he was impressed enough to buy him his own guitar. Tito, Jermaine, and Jackie later formed their own group, with Michael (age 5) playing congas and childhood friends Reynaud Jones and Milford Hite playing keyboards and drums in 1965. Marlon joined on tambourine in August 1965, when Evelyn LaHaie suggested that the group name themselves the Jackson Five Singing Group.[1]
By the time Joe was telling Janet she'd be a singer , music had already become the family's business. So he kinda just threw her in the mix .
what about Rebbie and Latoya?
Quote from: RAY7 on January 24, 2024, 09:22:57 PMQuote from: Journey to Kalmykia on January 24, 2024, 09:11:35 PMQuote from: RAY7 on January 24, 2024, 09:08:57 PMQuote from: Journey to Kalmykia on January 24, 2024, 08:57:22 PMQuote from: RAY7 on January 24, 2024, 08:47:23 PMQuote from: Journey to Kalmykia on January 24, 2024, 08:26:06 PMQuote from: The Brandy Barbie on January 24, 2024, 08:16:50 PMQuote from: Nine on January 24, 2024, 03:44:28 PMQuote from: Plastic. on January 24, 2024, 03:35:13 PM(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GEepnkvWQAAI79b?format=jpg&name=medium)
:plzstop:
dsdfsfklmfsksdf'sdf
Did she lie?
(https://i.gifer.com/Uk7.gif)
lol Yes, her assuming the parents were in it all for themselves. Most people in the hood try to find ways to get their kids in a better situation. Joe just recognized that he had talented kids, and that should get them out of the hood.
wait, didn't Michael actually "love dancing and singing" too?
sdsdsdssdsdds
yeah that's always how these stories start off tbh.
there has to be a certain talent and energy there for a parent to PUSH.
for Michael, it was clearly innate . something in him that jumped out at everyone, something that his brothers didn't have
and his father wanted to capitalize on that. michael loved to dance and sing, but as a manager/parent, Joe (and Matthew) literally made it their business to make sure their children understood it's a business.
thats cool for Michael
What about the other 9 kids?
yeah I'm looking up tea on Joe and Janet
Janet did not want to be a singer at all, but Joe told her that's what she was gonna be.
https://www.cheatsheet.com/entertainment/janet-jackson-never-wanted-singer.html/
Joe was horrible.
although there are parallels between him and Matt, as i said earlier in here...he was MUCH more toxic.
poor Jans.
see this is what Bey was talking about.
not so fast though
for the most part, the brothers still had this "Girls Tyme" story you're pushing themselves.
the narrative is that they proactively took interest in music and performing.
QuoteIn 1964, Joe found Tito playing with his guitar after a string broke, and he was impressed enough to buy him his own guitar. Tito, Jermaine, and Jackie later formed their own group, with Michael (age 5) playing congas and childhood friends Reynaud Jones and Milford Hite playing keyboards and drums in 1965. Marlon joined on tambourine in August 1965, when Evelyn LaHaie suggested that the group name themselves the Jackson Five Singing Group.[1]
By the time Joe was telling Janet she'd be a singer , music had already become the family's business. So he kinda just threw her in the mix .
what about Rebbie and Latoya?
Latoya attended college for a while but after the family gained popularity Joe insisted she join the music
rebbie took piano lessons, won some contests, etc. but didnt have an interest in a music career.
The girls seemed to be dragged in once things took off.
but it all started with "Boys Tyme". tsfsffsfssfs
Why are beyoncé stans so desperate for jans approval :plzstop:
Quote from: EgyptianSong on January 24, 2024, 09:35:35 PMWhy are beyoncé stans so desperate for jans approval :plzstop:
It's only natural for lessors to seek approval from their superiors
Quote from: EgyptianSong on January 24, 2024, 09:35:35 PMWhy are beyoncé stans so desperate for jans approval :plzstop:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Spor5jvLAi4
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I was gonna say I hope her cooking is better than her singing
but it doesn't look it
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I was gonna say I hope her cooking is better than her singing
but it doesn't look it
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this slightly questionable two course meal has u in shambles i fear
Quote from: Summertime on January 24, 2024, 06:14:07 PMQuote from: ivorian oph on January 24, 2024, 06:08:53 PMQuote from: Summertime on January 24, 2024, 05:57:54 PMQuote from: ivorian oph on January 24, 2024, 05:54:19 PMQuote from: Summertime on January 24, 2024, 05:04:47 PMQuote from: Journey to Kalmykia on January 24, 2024, 05:01:53 PMQuote from: RAY7 on January 24, 2024, 04:55:32 PMThere is a difference though. Mathew helped Bey become a star because SHE wanted to. They would've been fine even if she never sang a note because both of her parents were successful business owners
Same thing with ppl like Brandy and even Usher. Sonja became her manager because she wanted to protect Bran in the industry but she was working at H&R Block and Willie was a minister at church and they had a decent life
It's not like their parents were beating them forcing them to sing and dance
matthew was a businessman, about his money and saw an opportunity to make more money
We don't have to take the scenic route to get to that fact. And overly romanticize the mess.
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The whole reason they were in that nicer situation is because he was so focused on a coin.
Agree with this bc all the child star parents are the same. They saw the money and fame that their children would bring.
not at all accurate and a pretty wild assertion to make. were u a child star? who hurt u bby?
but yea, no group of people are "all the same". the mowry's parents don't give me that at ALL and that's just off top.
My post shouldn't have triggered you. I am going based off of many child stars discussing their lives. Children being used to financially support their families means that their parents see fame and money over their kids heads.
oh i wasn't triggered. you actually seemed a lil triggered that's why i asked who hurt u my bby, no shade
and yes what youre saying is true, just not for ALL. that's why i gave a quick example.
Okay baby I will restate what I wrote since it triggered you. All child star parents are the same. They saw the fame and money their children would bring in. Hence them signing their kids up to be part of show business. Kids supporting their families financially mean their parents wanted to be financially supported by their kids.
ok u said the same thing and it's still incorrect but if that makes me triggered then sure bby
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Quote from: EgyptianSong on January 24, 2024, 09:35:35 PMWhy are beyoncé stans so desperate for jans approval :plzstop:
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its like an alternative Universe in here fueled by some strong nostalgia.
Mariah's liver is strong
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Naur it's true it's true
I always see her stans on my twitter feed whining and crying about how Bey goes to Jan's shows, shouts her out in her songs etc. and how pressed they are that Janet doesn't acknowledge her enough to their taste. Very weird!
Quote from: Kalifornia. on January 24, 2024, 04:38:20 PMDid that cushy middle-class lifestyle stop Mathew from doing drugs and cheating on Tina with prostitutes?
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did it stop you from smoking meth and heroin?
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Quote from: TogetherAgain on January 24, 2024, 09:39:13 PMQuote from: EgyptianSong on January 24, 2024, 09:35:35 PMWhy are beyoncé stans so desperate for jans approval :plzstop:
It's only natural for lessors to seek approval from their superiors
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Joe was the kind of father every kid in the hood needs