https://x.com/andysignore/status/1846735671001596344
she sounds tf STUPUD :uhh:
im glad the creator stood on business
https://x.com/midosommar/status/1847877308633288862
the girs are cooking her tho vcccccccc
https://x.com/callumasplen/status/1846627136716550287
https://x.com/TyrannyBanks/status/1846610365007970608
https://x.com/honeymunes/status/1846617670088827003
https://x.com/LoveCherryScalp/status/1847833864393113723
https://x.com/strnrtn/status/1846742392998928891
https://x.com/javsy/status/1846583495411355982
https://x.com/dylanisunique/status/1846546007003472006
https://x.com/HarlemIndigoBby/status/1848169604490686604
https://x.com/MalibuDollFace/status/1846702642384535937
https://x.com/BettyieJayne/status/1847025003428212818
:plzstop: :letsmessfag:
She seems like she's very dramatic and attention seeking
Probably thought this would spark something where she's seen as a victim
my problem is the fact that they picked a Black woman to be the wicked witch amongst a bunch of non-Black actors
lets start there. forget a fan-made poster edit
but mr. ANDY needs to mind his pale, grizzly lookin business
Quote from: goodies on October 22, 2024, 10:34:11 AMmy problem is the fact that they picked a Black woman to be the wicked witch amongst a bunch of non-Black actors
I mean she auditioned for the role
and she's not some struggling actress who needed it.
Quote from: RAY7 on October 22, 2024, 10:40:21 AMQuote from: goodies on October 22, 2024, 10:34:11 AMmy problem is the fact that they picked a Black woman to be the wicked witch amongst a bunch of non-Black actors
I mean she auditioned for the role
and she's not some struggling actress who needed it.
im not her banker so i cant speak to what she needs and doesn't need
but the casting is horrible. that i can speak to
Quote from: goodies on October 22, 2024, 10:34:11 AMmy problem is the fact that they picked a Black woman to be the wicked witch amongst a bunch of non-Black actors
lets start there. forget a fan-made poster edit
n
and im just kinda revisiting thoughts i had when this was first posted months ago.
https://www.brandysource.net/index.php?topic=112496
Quote from: goodies on February 11, 2024, 10:04:57 PMnot them casting a black woman as the wicked witch :-/
Quote from: goodies on October 22, 2024, 10:42:10 AMQuote from: RAY7 on October 22, 2024, 10:40:21 AMQuote from: goodies on October 22, 2024, 10:34:11 AMmy problem is the fact that they picked a Black woman to be the wicked witch amongst a bunch of non-Black actors
I mean she auditioned for the role
and she's not some struggling actress who needed it.
im not her banker so i cant speak to what she needs and doesn't need
but the casting is horrible. that i can speak to
Im not talking about the money either. She's a seasoned enough actress not to mention Oscar and other award winning that she can choose which roles she takes.
This casting probably was going to a white woman like in the original movie until she decided she wanted it
Quote from: RAY7 on October 22, 2024, 12:20:08 PMQuote from: goodies on October 22, 2024, 10:42:10 AMQuote from: RAY7 on October 22, 2024, 10:40:21 AMQuote from: goodies on October 22, 2024, 10:34:11 AMmy problem is the fact that they picked a Black woman to be the wicked witch amongst a bunch of non-Black actors
I mean she auditioned for the role
and she's not some struggling actress who needed it.
im not her banker so i cant speak to what she needs and doesn't need
but the casting is horrible. that i can speak to
Im not talking about the money either. She's a seasoned enough actress not to mention Oscar and other award winning that she can choose which roles she takes.
This casting probably was going to a white woman like in the original movie until she decided she wanted it
if u really wanna go that route, having an oscar doesnt mean u can be extra picky cuz there's so many people banging down ur door
that's been proven several times over - especially for black actors
if anything, the "oscar curse" becomes a real concern. where the OPPOSITE of what you'd expect to happen after winning happens
so i cant even speak to how selective she is able to be. and even if she can be super picky the casting director still isn't off the hook
sometimes looking from the outside in provides the best view of how things are being set up.
just as someone whos in a bad relationship may need a friend to say "gorl, he doin u dirty." doesn't mean the person loves being done dirty, or asked for it, or is at fault for continuing to remain an active participant in the situation.
just means they're looking at things through a different lens.
Quote from: goodies on October 22, 2024, 12:30:31 PMQuote from: RAY7 on October 22, 2024, 12:20:08 PMQuote from: goodies on October 22, 2024, 10:42:10 AMQuote from: RAY7 on October 22, 2024, 10:40:21 AMQuote from: goodies on October 22, 2024, 10:34:11 AMmy problem is the fact that they picked a Black woman to be the wicked witch amongst a bunch of non-Black actors
I mean she auditioned for the role
and she's not some struggling actress who needed it.
im not her banker so i cant speak to what she needs and doesn't need
but the casting is horrible. that i can speak to
Im not talking about the money either. She's a seasoned enough actress not to mention Oscar and other award winning that she can choose which roles she takes.
This casting probably was going to a white woman like in the original movie until she decided she wanted it
if u really wanna go that route, having an oscar doesnt mean u can be extra picky cuz there's so many people banging down ur door
that's been proven several times over - especially for black actors
if anything, the "oscar curse" becomes a real concern. where the OPPOSITE of what you'd expect to happen after winning happens
so i cant even speak to how selective she is able to be. and even if she can be super picky the casting director still isn't off the hook
sometimes looking from the outside in is the best view of how things are being set up.
just as someone whos in a bad relationship may need a friend to say "gorl, he doin u dirty." doesn't mean the person loves being done dirty, or asked for it. just means they're looking at things through a different lens.
that's why I said a seasoned actress AND Oscar winning. Meaning outside of the award she has a long resume with hit movies to her name. It's not like she just won an Oscar and disappeared
and you may want to look up Cynthia's comments about American Black ppl being that she's from the UK. She's gotten quite some backlash for comments she's made. So even if someone told her it doesn't look good for a Black woman im not sure she would listen or agree
Quote from: RAY7 on October 22, 2024, 12:38:14 PMQuote from: goodies on October 22, 2024, 12:30:31 PMQuote from: RAY7 on October 22, 2024, 12:20:08 PMQuote from: goodies on October 22, 2024, 10:42:10 AMQuote from: RAY7 on October 22, 2024, 10:40:21 AMQuote from: goodies on October 22, 2024, 10:34:11 AMmy problem is the fact that they picked a Black woman to be the wicked witch amongst a bunch of non-Black actors
I mean she auditioned for the role
and she's not some struggling actress who needed it.
im not her banker so i cant speak to what she needs and doesn't need
but the casting is horrible. that i can speak to
Im not talking about the money either. She's a seasoned enough actress not to mention Oscar and other award winning that she can choose which roles she takes.
This casting probably was going to a white woman like in the original movie until she decided she wanted it
if u really wanna go that route, having an oscar doesnt mean u can be extra picky cuz there's so many people banging down ur door
that's been proven several times over - especially for black actors
if anything, the "oscar curse" becomes a real concern. where the OPPOSITE of what you'd expect to happen after winning happens
so i cant even speak to how selective she is able to be. and even if she can be super picky the casting director still isn't off the hook
sometimes looking from the outside in is the best view of how things are being set up.
just as someone whos in a bad relationship may need a friend to say "gorl, he doin u dirty." doesn't mean the person loves being done dirty, or asked for it. just means they're looking at things through a different lens.
that's why I said a seasoned actress AND Oscar winning. Meaning outside of the award she has a long resume with hit movies to her name. It's not like she just won an Oscar and disappeared
and you may want to look up Cynthia's comments about American Black ppl being that she's from the UK. She's gotten quite some backlash for comments she's made. So even if someone told her it doesn't look good for a Black woman im not sure she would listen or agree
which is actually why i'm lashing the casting directors
Quote from: goodies on October 22, 2024, 01:00:46 PMQuote from: RAY7 on October 22, 2024, 12:38:14 PMQuote from: goodies on October 22, 2024, 12:30:31 PMQuote from: RAY7 on October 22, 2024, 12:20:08 PMQuote from: goodies on October 22, 2024, 10:42:10 AMQuote from: RAY7 on October 22, 2024, 10:40:21 AMQuote from: goodies on October 22, 2024, 10:34:11 AMmy problem is the fact that they picked a Black woman to be the wicked witch amongst a bunch of non-Black actors
I mean she auditioned for the role
and she's not some struggling actress who needed it.
im not her banker so i cant speak to what she needs and doesn't need
but the casting is horrible. that i can speak to
Im not talking about the money either. She's a seasoned enough actress not to mention Oscar and other award winning that she can choose which roles she takes.
This casting probably was going to a white woman like in the original movie until she decided she wanted it
if u really wanna go that route, having an oscar doesnt mean u can be extra picky cuz there's so many people banging down ur door
that's been proven several times over - especially for black actors
if anything, the "oscar curse" becomes a real concern. where the OPPOSITE of what you'd expect to happen after winning happens
so i cant even speak to how selective she is able to be. and even if she can be super picky the casting director still isn't off the hook
sometimes looking from the outside in is the best view of how things are being set up.
just as someone whos in a bad relationship may need a friend to say "gorl, he doin u dirty." doesn't mean the person loves being done dirty, or asked for it. just means they're looking at things through a different lens.
that's why I said a seasoned actress AND Oscar winning. Meaning outside of the award she has a long resume with hit movies to her name. It's not like she just won an Oscar and disappeared
and you may want to look up Cynthia's comments about American Black ppl being that she's from the UK. She's gotten quite some backlash for comments she's made. So even if someone told her it doesn't look good for a Black woman im not sure she would listen or agree
which is actually why i'm lashing the casting directors
because they were supposed to tell an award winning actress NO to this role. Because shes Black
:omf:
Quote from: RAY7 on October 22, 2024, 01:03:49 PMQuote from: goodies on October 22, 2024, 01:00:46 PMQuote from: RAY7 on October 22, 2024, 12:38:14 PMQuote from: goodies on October 22, 2024, 12:30:31 PMQuote from: RAY7 on October 22, 2024, 12:20:08 PMQuote from: goodies on October 22, 2024, 10:42:10 AMQuote from: RAY7 on October 22, 2024, 10:40:21 AMQuote from: goodies on October 22, 2024, 10:34:11 AMmy problem is the fact that they picked a Black woman to be the wicked witch amongst a bunch of non-Black actors
I mean she auditioned for the role
and she's not some struggling actress who needed it.
im not her banker so i cant speak to what she needs and doesn't need
but the casting is horrible. that i can speak to
Im not talking about the money either. She's a seasoned enough actress not to mention Oscar and other award winning that she can choose which roles she takes.
This casting probably was going to a white woman like in the original movie until she decided she wanted it
if u really wanna go that route, having an oscar doesnt mean u can be extra picky cuz there's so many people banging down ur door
that's been proven several times over - especially for black actors
if anything, the "oscar curse" becomes a real concern. where the OPPOSITE of what you'd expect to happen after winning happens
so i cant even speak to how selective she is able to be. and even if she can be super picky the casting director still isn't off the hook
sometimes looking from the outside in is the best view of how things are being set up.
just as someone whos in a bad relationship may need a friend to say "gorl, he doin u dirty." doesn't mean the person loves being done dirty, or asked for it. just means they're looking at things through a different lens.
that's why I said a seasoned actress AND Oscar winning. Meaning outside of the award she has a long resume with hit movies to her name. It's not like she just won an Oscar and disappeared
and you may want to look up Cynthia's comments about American Black ppl being that she's from the UK. She's gotten quite some backlash for comments she's made. So even if someone told her it doesn't look good for a Black woman im not sure she would listen or agree
which is actually why i'm lashing the casting directors
because they were supposed to tell an award winning actress NO to this role. Because shes Black
:omf:
because i find it odd that the only main Black actress in the cast happens to be the wicked witch.
how does this NOT make sense to you?
maybe a visual will help.
(https://i.ibb.co/bKKFQyt/Screen-Shot-2024-10-22-at-1-12-19-PM.png)
Quote from: goodies on October 22, 2024, 01:11:53 PMQuote from: RAY7 on October 22, 2024, 01:03:49 PMQuote from: goodies on October 22, 2024, 01:00:46 PMQuote from: RAY7 on October 22, 2024, 12:38:14 PMQuote from: goodies on October 22, 2024, 12:30:31 PMQuote from: RAY7 on October 22, 2024, 12:20:08 PMQuote from: goodies on October 22, 2024, 10:42:10 AMQuote from: RAY7 on October 22, 2024, 10:40:21 AMQuote from: goodies on October 22, 2024, 10:34:11 AMmy problem is the fact that they picked a Black woman to be the wicked witch amongst a bunch of non-Black actors
I mean she auditioned for the role
and she's not some struggling actress who needed it.
im not her banker so i cant speak to what she needs and doesn't need
but the casting is horrible. that i can speak to
Im not talking about the money either. She's a seasoned enough actress not to mention Oscar and other award winning that she can choose which roles she takes.
This casting probably was going to a white woman like in the original movie until she decided she wanted it
if u really wanna go that route, having an oscar doesnt mean u can be extra picky cuz there's so many people banging down ur door
that's been proven several times over - especially for black actors
if anything, the "oscar curse" becomes a real concern. where the OPPOSITE of what you'd expect to happen after winning happens
so i cant even speak to how selective she is able to be. and even if she can be super picky the casting director still isn't off the hook
sometimes looking from the outside in is the best view of how things are being set up.
just as someone whos in a bad relationship may need a friend to say "gorl, he doin u dirty." doesn't mean the person loves being done dirty, or asked for it. just means they're looking at things through a different lens.
that's why I said a seasoned actress AND Oscar winning. Meaning outside of the award she has a long resume with hit movies to her name. It's not like she just won an Oscar and disappeared
and you may want to look up Cynthia's comments about American Black ppl being that she's from the UK. She's gotten quite some backlash for comments she's made. So even if someone told her it doesn't look good for a Black woman im not sure she would listen or agree
which is actually why i'm lashing the casting directors
because they were supposed to tell an award winning actress NO to this role. Because shes Black
:omf:
because i find it odd that the only main Black actress in the cast happens to be the wicked witch.
how does this NOT make sense to you?
maybe a visual will help.
(https://i.ibb.co/bKKFQyt/Screen-Shot-2024-10-22-at-1-12-19-PM.png)
well it is called WICKED sir. She's the title character. They could have casted more black characters but if there had to be just one, definitely give them the top billing
Quote from: RAY7 on October 22, 2024, 01:48:18 PMQuote from: goodies on October 22, 2024, 01:11:53 PMQuote from: RAY7 on October 22, 2024, 01:03:49 PMQuote from: goodies on October 22, 2024, 01:00:46 PMQuote from: RAY7 on October 22, 2024, 12:38:14 PMQuote from: goodies on October 22, 2024, 12:30:31 PMQuote from: RAY7 on October 22, 2024, 12:20:08 PMQuote from: goodies on October 22, 2024, 10:42:10 AMQuote from: RAY7 on October 22, 2024, 10:40:21 AMQuote from: goodies on October 22, 2024, 10:34:11 AMmy problem is the fact that they picked a Black woman to be the wicked witch amongst a bunch of non-Black actors
I mean she auditioned for the role
and she's not some struggling actress who needed it.
im not her banker so i cant speak to what she needs and doesn't need
but the casting is horrible. that i can speak to
Im not talking about the money either. She's a seasoned enough actress not to mention Oscar and other award winning that she can choose which roles she takes.
This casting probably was going to a white woman like in the original movie until she decided she wanted it
if u really wanna go that route, having an oscar doesnt mean u can be extra picky cuz there's so many people banging down ur door
that's been proven several times over - especially for black actors
if anything, the "oscar curse" becomes a real concern. where the OPPOSITE of what you'd expect to happen after winning happens
so i cant even speak to how selective she is able to be. and even if she can be super picky the casting director still isn't off the hook
sometimes looking from the outside in is the best view of how things are being set up.
just as someone whos in a bad relationship may need a friend to say "gorl, he doin u dirty." doesn't mean the person loves being done dirty, or asked for it. just means they're looking at things through a different lens.
that's why I said a seasoned actress AND Oscar winning. Meaning outside of the award she has a long resume with hit movies to her name. It's not like she just won an Oscar and disappeared
and you may want to look up Cynthia's comments about American Black ppl being that she's from the UK. She's gotten quite some backlash for comments she's made. So even if someone told her it doesn't look good for a Black woman im not sure she would listen or agree
which is actually why i'm lashing the casting directors
because they were supposed to tell an award winning actress NO to this role. Because shes Black
:omf:
because i find it odd that the only main Black actress in the cast happens to be the wicked witch.
how does this NOT make sense to you?
maybe a visual will help.
(https://i.ibb.co/bKKFQyt/Screen-Shot-2024-10-22-at-1-12-19-PM.png)
well it is called WICKED sir. She's the title character. They could have casted more black characters but if there had to be just one, definitely give them the top billing
u know wat ur right
so if someone writes up a movie called EVIL and casts a Black person to play the evil aggressor
and everyone else to be White Asian or Hispanic
it's OK because the evil aggressor is a focal point of the movie! :cheerup:
i see ur logic
Quote from: goodies on October 22, 2024, 02:04:18 PMQuote from: RAY7 on October 22, 2024, 01:48:18 PMQuote from: goodies on October 22, 2024, 01:11:53 PMQuote from: RAY7 on October 22, 2024, 01:03:49 PMQuote from: goodies on October 22, 2024, 01:00:46 PMQuote from: RAY7 on October 22, 2024, 12:38:14 PMQuote from: goodies on October 22, 2024, 12:30:31 PMQuote from: RAY7 on October 22, 2024, 12:20:08 PMQuote from: goodies on October 22, 2024, 10:42:10 AMQuote from: RAY7 on October 22, 2024, 10:40:21 AMQuote from: goodies on October 22, 2024, 10:34:11 AMmy problem is the fact that they picked a Black woman to be the wicked witch amongst a bunch of non-Black actors
I mean she auditioned for the role
and she's not some struggling actress who needed it.
im not her banker so i cant speak to what she needs and doesn't need
but the casting is horrible. that i can speak to
Im not talking about the money either. She's a seasoned enough actress not to mention Oscar and other award winning that she can choose which roles she takes.
This casting probably was going to a white woman like in the original movie until she decided she wanted it
if u really wanna go that route, having an oscar doesnt mean u can be extra picky cuz there's so many people banging down ur door
that's been proven several times over - especially for black actors
if anything, the "oscar curse" becomes a real concern. where the OPPOSITE of what you'd expect to happen after winning happens
so i cant even speak to how selective she is able to be. and even if she can be super picky the casting director still isn't off the hook
sometimes looking from the outside in is the best view of how things are being set up.
just as someone whos in a bad relationship may need a friend to say "gorl, he doin u dirty." doesn't mean the person loves being done dirty, or asked for it. just means they're looking at things through a different lens.
that's why I said a seasoned actress AND Oscar winning. Meaning outside of the award she has a long resume with hit movies to her name. It's not like she just won an Oscar and disappeared
and you may want to look up Cynthia's comments about American Black ppl being that she's from the UK. She's gotten quite some backlash for comments she's made. So even if someone told her it doesn't look good for a Black woman im not sure she would listen or agree
which is actually why i'm lashing the casting directors
because they were supposed to tell an award winning actress NO to this role. Because shes Black
:omf:
because i find it odd that the only main Black actress in the cast happens to be the wicked witch.
how does this NOT make sense to you?
maybe a visual will help.
(https://i.ibb.co/bKKFQyt/Screen-Shot-2024-10-22-at-1-12-19-PM.png)
well it is called WICKED sir. She's the title character. They could have casted more black characters but if there had to be just one, definitely give them the top billing
u know wat ur right
so if someone writes up a movie called EVIL and casts a Black person to play the evil aggressor
and everyone else to be White Asian or Hispanic
it's OK because the evil aggressor is a focal point of the movie! :cheerup:
i see ur logic
my nigga!
>>>><<<<
Especially when no one held the Black person at gunpoint to audition and take THAT role
(Btw that's kinda what Tyler Perry does in a lot of his movies just with Dark skinned men vs light skinned)
:omf:
Quote from: RAY7 on October 22, 2024, 02:37:34 PM(Btw that's kinda what Tyler Perry does in a lot of his movies just with Dark skinned men vs light skinned)
:omf:
so the concept of or potential instances of colorism clearly doesn't go over ur head
(which can be argued considering Tyler has plenty of roles where the dark skinned men were the good guys or "saved" women from bad situations. i'll let u have it though.)
but somehow the concern i brought into this thread about a dark skinned , unambiguous Black woman drowning in a sea of Whites Chinks and Spics in a cast as the EVIL character (as in, the combination of racism and colorism) is completely lost on you.
... even when the character she's playing is literally wicked, evil, dark and aggressive.
People understand what they choose to
Is it colorism/racism going on? I'm not trying to debate that I'm talking about who is responsible.
Is it the actors who take these roles or the casting directors?
Cuz if it's the directors it just might be time to call out your boy
Quote from: RAY7 on October 22, 2024, 03:15:32 PMIs it colorism/racism going on? I'm not trying to debate that I'm talking about who is responsible.
Is it the actors who take these roles or the casting directors?
Cuz if it's the directors it just might be time to call out your boy
u clearly knew who to point the finger at in Tyler's case.
didn't see u blaming the darker skinned characters for accepting the roles.
now take that same approach and apply it to the casting directors that put a Black woman as the wicked witch amongst her non-Black peers.
Quote from: goodies on October 22, 2024, 03:18:09 PMQuote from: RAY7 on October 22, 2024, 03:15:32 PMIs it colorism/racism going on? I'm not trying to debate that I'm talking about who is responsible.
Is it the actors who take these roles or the casting directors?
Cuz if it's the directors it just might be time to call out your boy
u clearly knew who to point the finger at in Tyler's case.
didn't see u blaming the darker skinned characters for accepting the roles.
now take that same approach and apply it to the casting directors that put a Black woman as the wicked witch amongst her non-Black peers.
I just asked the question in the post you quoted. Seems like there is no direct answer in your opinion? Is it the casting directors or the actors? Cuz it's sounding mixed from you. Sounds like you wanna defend Cynthia but not Tyler's actors
Quote from: RAY7 on October 22, 2024, 03:31:07 PMQuote from: goodies on October 22, 2024, 03:18:09 PMQuote from: RAY7 on October 22, 2024, 03:15:32 PMIs it colorism/racism going on? I'm not trying to debate that I'm talking about who is responsible.
Is it the actors who take these roles or the casting directors?
Cuz if it's the directors it just might be time to call out your boy
u clearly knew who to point the finger at in Tyler's case.
didn't see u blaming the darker skinned characters for accepting the roles.
now take that same approach and apply it to the casting directors that put a Black woman as the wicked witch amongst her non-Black peers.
I just asked the question in the post you quoted. Seems like there is no direct answer in your opinion? Is it the casting directors or the actors? Cuz it's sounding mixed from you. Sounds like you wanna defend Cynthia but not Tyler's actors
sounds like I'm assigning responsibility to those who are in charge of a production when it comes to casting.
If that sounds unreasonable to you I dunno what to say
I just said that you know who to point the finger at in Tyler's case. Meaning, you seem to have got it right in that instance but it escapes you in this one .
In other words, if you have concerns about casting in a production I'm gonna have a conversation about the person in charge
Not hit you with a "well they took the role! :plea: "
That's a pretty lazy argument and almost the equivalent of "so what if they underpaid! no one forced them tah work at McDonalds! They filled out the application!"
so she's one of the lead acttresses in a major film and ur bothered that the character she's being paid big bucks to play is a wicked witch in a fantasy film?
not to mention, in wicked, the character isnt even portrayed as evil, moreso misunderstood and ger fate is left to interpretation. the entire point of wicked is to tell the story of the wicked witch and show a different side other than evil.
so not only is that take weird, it doesn't even align with what the story actually is.
we have got to stop wit this REACHING vcxccxxx
also, lock this
:disgusted:
Quote from: i'm oph, he's mine on October 22, 2024, 03:59:20 PMso she's one of the lead acttresses in a major film and ur bothered that the character she's being paid big bucks to play is a wicked witch in a fantasy film?
not to mention, in wicked, the character isnt even portrayed as evil, moreso misunderstood and ger fate is left to interpretation. the entire point of wicked is to tell the story of the wicked witch and show a different side other than evil.
so not only is that take weird, it doesn't even align with what the story actually is.
we have got to stop wit this REACHING vcxccxxx
if this story line is much different than the "wicked witch of the west" in Oz
then that's somewhat different for sure.
thanks for pointing that out . im not super familiar with the play - i obviously assumed the play would be similar to the movie "Oz" in story line.
i'm reading more about it now and it seems that she is indeed portrayed as misunderstood and I'm now reading more commentary/input from Black women who say they can actually relate to the character and are proud to see someone like Cynthia playing the role.
but this actually speaks to why Cynthia may be upset about her face being covered on that poster in the OP.
based on what im reading now, it looks like there have been Black women who've actually fought to play this role for years (as in, the play, etc) .
now that it's here for Cynthia, she may be understandably super sensitive to people erasing her image from it - whether it be intentional or not.
yea babe, thats why you should do a lil research before typing these novels.
and nah, none of this speaks to why shes upset. they literally made an edit to match the original poster, thats it. it almost reads as she didnt even realize what the intent was because shes ignorant to the source material. either that or shes just insufferably egotistical, yet fragile enough to percieve this as some personal attack on HER.
and to be clear, she was never erased. they brought the brim of the hat down to cover her eyes-- just like the originsl poster-- and they also photoshopped ariana's hand to cover a bit more of her face TOO-- just like the original poster. you can still tell exactly who tf they are, in addition to the fact that shes LITERALLY top billed casting and the main character of the damn movie ccccvvvvvv. erased where???
people, including MENThia, are trying to force this into an issue of race & erasure and its simply NOT.
Quote from: i'm oph, he's mine on October 22, 2024, 04:42:39 PMyea babe, thats why you should do a lil research before typing these novels.
and you should have as well before making this thread and adding 1000 links to white grizzlies dragging her on twitter
when her apparent hypersensitivity is actually very justified according to my "lil research"
she articulated it very well.
it's not to say the person definitely had intention to erase/shade Cynthia with that fanmade art..
it's just understanding why Cynthia feels that way. why she may be sensitive to it.
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Made some vegan oatmeal cookies
Quote from: goodies on October 22, 2024, 04:50:42 PMQuote from: i'm oph, he's mine on October 22, 2024, 04:42:39 PMyea babe, thats why you should do a lil research before typing these novels.
and you should have as well before making this thread and adding 1000 links to white grizzlies dragging her on twitter
when her apparent hypersensitivity is actually very justified according to my "lil research"
im the one who educated YOU vccvvvcvv
and most of those tweets are from black folks. so yeah, she sounds stupid and ur pissed about it babe
:letsmessfag:
Quote from: i'm oph, he's mine on October 23, 2024, 02:36:45 AMQuote from: goodies on October 22, 2024, 04:50:42 PMQuote from: i'm oph, he's mine on October 22, 2024, 04:42:39 PMyea babe, thats why you should do a lil research before typing these novels.
and you should have as well before making this thread and adding 1000 links to white grizzlies dragging her on twitter
when her apparent hypersensitivity is actually very justified according to my "lil research"
im the one who educated YOU vccvvvcvv
and most of those tweets are from black folks. so yeah, she sounds stupid and ur pissed about it babe
:letsmessfag:
we can just agree to disagree
If we couldn't get on the same page about something like OG being called a monkey I highly doubt we'd end up seeing eye to eye on this issue
So I'll end our discussion here.
Oph was stomped out
I'm with Fro on this one.
If not for anything than my initial, IMMEDIATE internal response upon seeing the trailer after the credits for "The Wild Robot" rolled in the theatre.
I thought just that. "Not the only Black person I see being the wicked witch." :dead:
even fro walked that point back bby. he's sticking with the fan edit outrange angle now.
again, having an understanding of the actual story beyond merely the character's name is pivotal here.
Quote from: Aalonso. on October 23, 2024, 04:38:37 PMI'm with Fro on this one.
If not for anything than my initial, IMMEDIATE internal response upon seeing the trailer after the credits for "The Wild Robot" rolled in the theatre.
I thought just that. "Not the only Black person I see being the wicked witch." :dead:
yeah
I did say it's SOMEWHAT/KINDA different after considering the context of how the witch is portrayed in the "wicked" play specifically
But the lineup is still questionable.
If nothing else , optically at first glance .
Just because I was willing to consider and research helpful context that was introduced (as I should) doesn't mean I've 100% abandoned my thoughts on casting.
(https://i.ibb.co/bKKFQyt/Screen-Shot-2024-10-22-at-1-12-19-PM.png)
https://x.com/jon_ari_/status/1846565291137945931
vvvvvvcc yeah the ppl have spoken
:letsmessfag:
She is a theatre gal and has been talking about this role being her dream role for over 10 years now.
Quote from: goodies on October 22, 2024, 02:04:18 PMQuote from: RAY7 on October 22, 2024, 01:48:18 PMQuote from: goodies on October 22, 2024, 01:11:53 PMQuote from: RAY7 on October 22, 2024, 01:03:49 PMQuote from: goodies on October 22, 2024, 01:00:46 PMQuote from: RAY7 on October 22, 2024, 12:38:14 PMQuote from: goodies on October 22, 2024, 12:30:31 PMQuote from: RAY7 on October 22, 2024, 12:20:08 PMQuote from: goodies on October 22, 2024, 10:42:10 AMQuote from: RAY7 on October 22, 2024, 10:40:21 AMQuote from: goodies on October 22, 2024, 10:34:11 AMmy problem is the fact that they picked a Black woman to be the wicked witch amongst a bunch of non-Black actors
I mean she auditioned for the role
and she's not some struggling actress who needed it.
im not her banker so i cant speak to what she needs and doesn't need
but the casting is horrible. that i can speak to
Im not talking about the money either. She's a seasoned enough actress not to mention Oscar and other award winning that she can choose which roles she takes.
This casting probably was going to a white woman like in the original movie until she decided she wanted it
if u really wanna go that route, having an oscar doesnt mean u can be extra picky cuz there's so many people banging down ur door
that's been proven several times over - especially for black actors
if anything, the "oscar curse" becomes a real concern. where the OPPOSITE of what you'd expect to happen after winning happens
so i cant even speak to how selective she is able to be. and even if she can be super picky the casting director still isn't off the hook
sometimes looking from the outside in is the best view of how things are being set up.
just as someone whos in a bad relationship may need a friend to say "gorl, he doin u dirty." doesn't mean the person loves being done dirty, or asked for it. just means they're looking at things through a different lens.
that's why I said a seasoned actress AND Oscar winning. Meaning outside of the award she has a long resume with hit movies to her name. It's not like she just won an Oscar and disappeared
and you may want to look up Cynthia's comments about American Black ppl being that she's from the UK. She's gotten quite some backlash for comments she's made. So even if someone told her it doesn't look good for a Black woman im not sure she would listen or agree
which is actually why i'm lashing the casting directors
because they were supposed to tell an award winning actress NO to this role. Because shes Black
:omf:
because i find it odd that the only main Black actress in the cast happens to be the wicked witch.
how does this NOT make sense to you?
maybe a visual will help.
(https://i.ibb.co/bKKFQyt/Screen-Shot-2024-10-22-at-1-12-19-PM.png)
well it is called WICKED sir. She's the title character. They could have casted more black characters but if there had to be just one, definitely give them the top billing
u know wat ur right
so if someone writes up a movie called EVIL and casts a Black person to play the evil aggressor
and everyone else to be White Asian or Hispanic
it's OK because the evil aggressor is a focal point of the movie! :cheerup:
i see ur logic
Quote from: goodies on October 22, 2024, 02:04:18 PMQuote from: RAY7 on October 22, 2024, 01:48:18 PMQuote from: goodies on October 22, 2024, 01:11:53 PMQuote from: RAY7 on October 22, 2024, 01:03:49 PMQuote from: goodies on October 22, 2024, 01:00:46 PMQuote from: RAY7 on October 22, 2024, 12:38:14 PMQuote from: goodies on October 22, 2024, 12:30:31 PMQuote from: RAY7 on October 22, 2024, 12:20:08 PMQuote from: goodies on October 22, 2024, 10:42:10 AMQuote from: RAY7 on October 22, 2024, 10:40:21 AMQuote from: goodies on October 22, 2024, 10:34:11 AMmy problem is the fact that they picked a Black woman to be the wicked witch amongst a bunch of non-Black actors
I mean she auditioned for the role
and she's not some struggling actress who needed it.
im not her banker so i cant speak to what she needs and doesn't need
but the casting is horrible. that i can speak to
Im not talking about the money either. She's a seasoned enough actress not to mention Oscar and other award winning that she can choose which roles she takes.
This casting probably was going to a white woman like in the original movie until she decided she wanted it
if u really wanna go that route, having an oscar doesnt mean u can be extra picky cuz there's so many people banging down ur door
that's been proven several times over - especially for black actors
if anything, the "oscar curse" becomes a real concern. where the OPPOSITE of what you'd expect to happen after winning happens
so i cant even speak to how selective she is able to be. and even if she can be super picky the casting director still isn't off the hook
sometimes looking from the outside in is the best view of how things are being set up.
just as someone whos in a bad relationship may need a friend to say "gorl, he doin u dirty." doesn't mean the person loves being done dirty, or asked for it. just means they're looking at things through a different lens.
that's why I said a seasoned actress AND Oscar winning. Meaning outside of the award she has a long resume with hit movies to her name. It's not like she just won an Oscar and disappeared
and you may want to look up Cynthia's comments about American Black ppl being that she's from the UK. She's gotten quite some backlash for comments she's made. So even if someone told her it doesn't look good for a Black woman im not sure she would listen or agree
which is actually why i'm lashing the casting directors
because they were supposed to tell an award winning actress NO to this role. Because shes Black
:omf:
because i find it odd that the only main Black actress in the cast happens to be the wicked witch.
how does this NOT make sense to you?
maybe a visual will help.
(https://i.ibb.co/bKKFQyt/Screen-Shot-2024-10-22-at-1-12-19-PM.png)
well it is called WICKED sir. She's the title character. They could have casted more black characters but if there had to be just one, definitely give them the top billing
u know wat ur right
so if someone writes up a movie called EVIL and casts a Black person to play the evil aggressor
and everyone else to be White Asian or Hispanic
it's OK because the evil aggressor is a focal point of the movie! :cheerup:
i see ur logic
This is the best role in the movie. She has wanted this role for over a decade.
cccxxcvcdfcvcxcgcxxcvcccv the way king broke it down point by damn POINT
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