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he def needs to keep his big spicy mouth off Foundational Black Americans
Remy come get this thing
Many who identify as FBAs (foundational black Americans) aren't "racist", they just have their OWN DEFINITION of what Blackness is, and who should be able to participate within stated definitions and boundaries of it
Just like many other races have their definition of what their mess is. People are not used to Black people drawing lines. A lot of those who identify as FBA are THOROUGHLY screening invitations to the "cookout"
Fjfjjfjfjf and some girls just cannot take.
If Kamala can get called into question by FBAs on some mess as a mixed Black woman, Joe is DEF not beyond reproach.
I fully support the FBA movement cuz most of the talking points which are built on/ stem from it (that I've seen) are rarely unreasonable or a stretch.
I don't personally get offended or pretend to get offended by someone like Joe from NYC saying nigga cuz I know the context.
But ultimately that word stems from black American history. And u not gon sit ur washed up nacho grande self and talk about black Americans
Not too much on FBAs
I would accept Joe HUMBLY explaining why he's used to saying the word . But he's sticking out his chest a bit TOO much for my liking.
He's making some points
Quote from: Introducing: Black Kalmyks on December 22, 2024, 09:26:10 AMMany who identify as FBAs (foundational black Americans) aren't "racist", they just have their OWN DEFINITION of what Blackness is, and who should be able to participate within stated definitions and boundaries of it
Just like many other races have their definition of what their mess is. People are not used to Black people drawing lines. A lot of those who identify as FBA are THOROUGHLY screening invitations to the "cookout"
Fjfjjfjfjf and some girls just cannot take.
If Kamala can get called into question by FBAs on some mess as a mixed Black woman, Joe is DEF not beyond reproach.
I fully support the FBA movement cuz most of the talking points which are built on/ stem from it (that I've seen) are rarely unreasonable or a stretch.
I don't personally get offended or pretend to get offended by someone like Joe from NYC saying nigga cuz I know the context.
But ultimately that word stems from black American history. And u not gon sit ur washed up nacho grande self and talk about black Americans
Not too much on FBAs
I would accept Joe HUMBLY explaining why he's used to saying the word . But he's sticking out his chest a bit TOO much for my liking.
Black Americans don't own Blackness. My issue with this is that there are too many arguments about what is and what is not Black (American). It's all rooted in supremacy. It's really no different than white supremacy and a need to feel superior. I see arguments in comments about Joseline, saying she's not Black. Clearly, Joseline is a Black woman. Now, if we are talking culturally, no, she's not Black American. Because she and Fat Joe are not Black Americans, we could ask them not to use the N-word.
However, here's the other side of the coin: How many times a day does Fat Joe get called the N-word? You know we have to police it all. We can't decide 50 years later that we do not want Puerto Ricans to say the N-word. When in reality, out of all Latinos, Puerto Ricans are the most connected to their Blackness. They are also the one group that, in my opinion, has fully embraced Black American culture.
I think many Black Americans are mad that other groups use their ethnicity and nationality to separate themselves from us. This I understand, because I see it all the time in business. They market to Black people in business, they take advantage of loans, school enrollments, and other things meant for Black Americans, but personally do everything to separate themselves by saying, "I'm Nigerian, Dominican, Jamaican," etc.
I just feel that those we have allowed freely to say these things for so long shouldn't be the target. The focus should be to teach Black Americans how to gatekeep because this has only happened because we allow it.
Quote from: BruceTruMusicFan on December 22, 2024, 11:53:58 AMQuote from: Introducing: Black Kalmyks on December 22, 2024, 09:26:10 AMMany who identify as FBAs (foundational black Americans) aren't "racist", they just have their OWN DEFINITION of what Blackness is, and who should be able to participate within stated definitions and boundaries of it
Just like many other races have their definition of what their mess is. People are not used to Black people drawing lines. A lot of those who identify as FBA are THOROUGHLY screening invitations to the "cookout"
Fjfjjfjfjf and some girls just cannot take.
If Kamala can get called into question by FBAs on some mess as a mixed Black woman, Joe is DEF not beyond reproach.
I fully support the FBA movement cuz most of the talking points which are built on/ stem from it (that I've seen) are rarely unreasonable or a stretch.
I don't personally get offended or pretend to get offended by someone like Joe from NYC saying nigga cuz I know the context.
But ultimately that word stems from black American history. And u not gon sit ur washed up nacho grande self and talk about black Americans
Not too much on FBAs
I would accept Joe HUMBLY explaining why he's used to saying the word . But he's sticking out his chest a bit TOO much for my liking.
Black Americans don't own Blackness. My issue with this is that there are too many arguments about what is and what is not Black (American). It's all rooted in supremacy. It's really no different than white supremacy and a need to feel superior. I see arguments in comments about Joseline, saying she's not Black. Clearly, Joseline is a Black woman. Now, if we are talking culturally, no, she's not Black American. Because she and Fat Joe are not Black Americans, we could ask them not to use the N-word.
However, here's the other side of the coin: How many times a day does Fat Joe get called the N-word? You know we have to police it all. We can't decide 50 years later that we do not want Puerto Ricans to say the N-word. When in reality, out of all Latinos, Puerto Ricans are the most connected to their Blackness. They are also the one group that, in my opinion, has fully embraced Black American culture.
I think many Black Americans are mad that other groups use their ethnicity and nationality to separate themselves from us. This I understand, because I see it all the time in business. They market to Black people in business, they take advantage of loans, school enrollments, and other things meant for Black Americans, but personally do everything to separate themselves by saying, "I'm Nigerian, Dominican, Jamaican," etc.
I just feel that those we have allowed freely to say these things for so long shouldn't be the target. The focus should be to teach Black Americans how to gatekeep because this has only happened because we allow it.
You kinda contradicted urself here - with the 1st and last sentence.
You said "Black Americans don't own Blackness" (which is crazy to me and totally untrue . Especially considering that this discussion is around the word "nigga" and its usage, AND the fact that when MANY people <especially African descendants of other nationalities> say "Black" is a direct reference to Black Americans, and will CORRECT people when they call them "Black" instead of "Haitian" or "Jamaican", or "Nigerian", etc.)
But then you said Black people need to learn how to gatekeep
Which is something that people ARE trying to learn - as evidenced by Fat Joe being dragged and lines being drawn.
Your interference with this process of learning - by saying things like "Black people don't own Blackness" is directly counterproductive to your proposed goal of "learn how to gatekeep."
ssffsssff
In other words:
How can one gatekeep with no ownership?or without having a sense of ownership?
Fat Joe is definitely being too cocky with how he's handling this and he DESERVES to be dragged.
It's very counterproductive. We have so many different types of people in this country with different stories. Why are we shutting out so many of the people who look like us from other places and mixed people who all experience some of the same racism we experience? We are stronger when there is more of us coming together. Cutting ourselves into little groups against each other just makes us have that much less of a voice, imo.
That's why the Russian bots were pushing the narrative of "Kamala's not really black," so hard this go round. Because they knew all Trump needed was a few extra percentage points of blacks to win. And if they can get us to chip away at each other on some petty us against them mess, our numbers won't be as strong, and that's all they need.
Quote from: Introducing: Black Kalmyks on December 22, 2024, 12:24:49 PMQuote from: BruceTruMusicFan on December 22, 2024, 11:53:58 AMQuote from: Introducing: Black Kalmyks on December 22, 2024, 09:26:10 AMMany who identify as FBAs (foundational black Americans) aren't "racist", they just have their OWN DEFINITION of what Blackness is, and who should be able to participate within stated definitions and boundaries of it
Just like many other races have their definition of what their mess is. People are not used to Black people drawing lines. A lot of those who identify as FBA are THOROUGHLY screening invitations to the "cookout"
Fjfjjfjfjf and some girls just cannot take.
If Kamala can get called into question by FBAs on some mess as a mixed Black woman, Joe is DEF not beyond reproach.
I fully support the FBA movement cuz most of the talking points which are built on/ stem from it (that I've seen) are rarely unreasonable or a stretch.
I don't personally get offended or pretend to get offended by someone like Joe from NYC saying nigga cuz I know the context.
But ultimately that word stems from black American history. And u not gon sit ur washed up nacho grande self and talk about black Americans
Not too much on FBAs
I would accept Joe HUMBLY explaining why he's used to saying the word . But he's sticking out his chest a bit TOO much for my liking.
Black Americans don't own Blackness. My issue with this is that there are too many arguments about what is and what is not Black (American). It's all rooted in supremacy. It's really no different than white supremacy and a need to feel superior. I see arguments in comments about Joseline, saying she's not Black. Clearly, Joseline is a Black woman. Now, if we are talking culturally, no, she's not Black American. Because she and Fat Joe are not Black Americans, we could ask them not to use the N-word.
However, here's the other side of the coin: How many times a day does Fat Joe get called the N-word? You know we have to police it all. We can't decide 50 years later that we do not want Puerto Ricans to say the N-word. When in reality, out of all Latinos, Puerto Ricans are the most connected to their Blackness. They are also the one group that, in my opinion, has fully embraced Black American culture.
I think many Black Americans are mad that other groups use their ethnicity and nationality to separate themselves from us. This I understand, because I see it all the time in business. They market to Black people in business, they take advantage of loans, school enrollments, and other things meant for Black Americans, but personally do everything to separate themselves by saying, "I'm Nigerian, Dominican, Jamaican," etc.
I just feel that those we have allowed freely to say these things for so long shouldn't be the target. The focus should be to teach Black Americans how to gatekeep because this has only happened because we allow it.
You kinda contradicted urself here - with the 1st and last sentence.
Quote from: The Brandy Barbie on December 22, 2024, 01:23:58 PMIt's very counterproductive. We have so many different types of people in this country with different stories. Why are we shutting out so many of the people who look like us from other places and mixed people who all experience some of the same racism we experience? We are stronger when there is more of us coming together. Cutting ourselves into little groups against each other just makes us have that much less of a voice, imo.
That's why the Russian bots were pushing the narrative of "Kamala's not really black," so hard this go round. Because they knew all Trump needed was a few extra percentage points of blacks to win. And if they can get us to chip away at each other on some petty us against them mess, our numbers won't be as strong, and that's all they need.
IMO this is def a case of "two things can be true at the same time"
thing 1 being: Yes Black people have different stories and different backgrounds all while facing similar challenges - so there's much to connect on
thing 2 being: Yes it's OK to acknowledge and discuss the nuances of differences among African-descended people and not pretend like things don't exist
We can't forget how brushing things under a rug and this "everyone's the same" attitude has affected the community in the past and present. All the passiveness, evasiveness with certain topics can actually be HARMFUL to people in our community - and has been used to GASLIGHT people within our community ....especially Black women...as we try to undo generations of avoiding tough conversations.
there are inherent social and even economic effects that come with a lot of these differences. People aren't drawing lines and having conversations just for fun. They are highlighting real issues that deserve time and attention . i'm 100% with those who strongly identify with and promote FBA.
But to ur point , I also believe in finding common ground with others too.
and if Joe loves Black people and Blackness as much as he claims. he'd humble himself , close his mouth and LISTEN as a man who is NOT largely perceived to be Black - no matter how he chooses to identify on Wednesday or Saturday.
https://x.com/miss_mojo/status/1871195496624296387
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I had the most IGNORANT argument the other day with one of these FBA types. I was born in Miami to an African American father and an Afro-Guyanese Mom. He doesn't consider me Black American and flat out told me I had no business trying to claim to be. I rarely agree with Dangerously Deluded Barbie, but I think she is right. A lot of this FBA movement is rooted in the need for supremacy. Some black people want the same privileges that the whites have. The privilege to oppress others. I have no issue with Black Americans trying to an identity for themselves, but don't try to exclude and oppress others while you're trying to do so. And don't keep moving the fucking goalpost on blackness to try to suit your narrative.
Quote from: ❄️☃️🌨� Shuji Feels Different 🌨�☃️❄️ on December 24, 2024, 11:14:39 AMI had the most IGNORANT argument the other day with one of these FBA types. I was born in Miami to an African American father and an Afro-Guyanese Mom. He doesn't consider me Black American and flat out told me I had no business trying to claim to be. I rarely agree with Dangerously Deluded Barbie, but I think she is right. A lot of this FBA movement is rooted in the need for supremacy. Some black people want the same privileges that the whites have. The privilege to oppress others. I have no issue with Black Americans trying to an identity for themselves, but don't try to exclude and oppress others while you're trying to do so. And don't keep moving the fucking goalpost on blackness to try to suit your narrative.
i do think it's a bit much to exclude someone who's born in america and has an AA parent
But ultimately that's their personal definition and I'd say most FBAs wouldn't take it that far . So ur actually doing a bit much too by lashing out at FBAs cuz u seem to hang around unreasonable people.
I have been questioned and "othered" by fellow Black Americans . With comments that basically say "ur Black but I don't think you're totally Black."
Like "where is ur family REALLY from, boo? :unsure: "
Or "yeah yeah I know if the cops stop u you're black and blah blah blah 🙄 BUT....."
Or "are they 'black' like you or BLACK?"
Or "iono.....WE don't grow hair like that."
I've heard a lot and I'd be lying if I said it didn't kinda sorta sting and even confuse me sometimes .
To the point where I literally went searching to see wtf is in my family history that so many people swear is there .
I don't consider myself "mixed" but I do acknowledge that i have a multi-ethnic background in my family that some people can see on the surface and question. Which makes sense and is OK.
They're not ignorant or evil for drawing a line or calling things how they see it . I love us enough to respect us having our own opinions and boundaries.
And honestly coming up in here to co-sign this Gordita and his foolery only lends credence to any ideas that FBAs have about drawing lines and side-eyeing and closely watching those who they don't deem to be FBA
Being truly Black American isn't just about you being born into it IMO. It's about loving black American-ness, defending it when when necessary, staying on code when necessary , dragging tf out of anyone who tries it when necessary , prioritizing the needs/best interests of the community over any others
And loving GODlanta. :woohoo:
Dndndndnnfndnd
:scrumptious:
What exactly is the point of the FBA movement besides trying to divide the different groups of black people who live in the US? What does it accomplish?
Quote from: ❄️☃️🌨� Shuji Feels Different 🌨�☃️❄️ on December 24, 2024, 11:14:39 AMI rarely agree with Dangerously Deluded Barbie
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Quote from: ❄️☃️🌨� Shuji Feels Different 🌨�☃️❄️ on December 24, 2024, 12:38:15 PMWhat exactly is the point of the FBA movement besides trying to divide the different groups of black people who live in the US? What does it accomplish?
im on the FBA website now and it's basically saying a lot of what I said in my previous post
Which is: True Black Americanness is about loyalty and prioritization of our best interests above all else
It's damn near word for word.
Fjfjfnfnnfnfnfnnf
I think I'm an FBA mess owt :omgwatshappening:
They're even calling out "full" black Americans who apparently lack that loyalty and prioritization . And say they should be side eyed.
QuoteEven full FBA who has a history of prioritizing other groups, religions, and sexual intersectionality over the best interests of Foundational Black Americans, must be viewed with reservations.
https://officialfba.com/
And they're making exceptions for those who aren't "full" FBA but who DO show that loyalty. I agree .
The deepest and most important concern seems to be "who's really with us?" and not "who was born fully FBA? Who's in our exclusive club hehe"The "sexual intersectionality" mess is givin me just a bit of pause - I'd need more context on that . but everything else is chefs kiss.
I get it.
Quote from: Introducing: Black Kalmyks on December 24, 2024, 12:23:28 PMAnd honestly coming up in here to co-sign this Gordita and his foolery only lends credence to any ideas that FBAs have about drawing lines and side-eyeing and closely watching those who they don't deem to be FBA
Being truly Black American isn't just about you being born into it IMO. It's about loving black American-ness, defending it when when necessary, staying on code when necessary , dragging tf out of anyone who tries it when necessary , prioritizing the needs/best interests of the community over any others
And loving GODlanta. :woohoo:
Dndndndnnfndnd
:scrumptious:
I see it as being about being of the bloodline and culture and gatekeeping. AAVE, food, commonalities, family histories, etc. cannot be flattened bc of shared race.
Other ethnicities delineate so black americans doing it isn't new. Even tribes throughout the world in many countries do it. An Igbo isn't going to view a Fulani as the same as them. A Chechen and Russian aren't going to view themselves as same from an ethnic perspective. Kurds and Persians don't see themselves as the same. From a nationality perspective as Americans we aren't going to see us as being the same as Canadians.
Quote from: Summertime on December 24, 2024, 02:56:05 PMQuote from: Introducing: Black Kalmyks on December 24, 2024, 12:23:28 PMAnd honestly coming up in here to co-sign this Gordita and his foolery only lends credence to any ideas that FBAs have about drawing lines and side-eyeing and closely watching those who they don't deem to be FBA
Being truly Black American isn't just about you being born into it IMO. It's about loving black American-ness, defending it when when necessary, staying on code when necessary , dragging tf out of anyone who tries it when necessary , prioritizing the needs/best interests of the community over any others
And loving GODlanta. :woohoo:
Dndndndnnfndnd
:scrumptious:
I see it as being about being of the bloodline and culture and gatekeeping. AAVE, food, commonalities, family histories, etc. cannot be flattened bc of shared race.
Other ethnicities delineate so black americans doing it isn't new. Even tribes throughout the world in many countries do it. An Igbo isn't going to view a Fulani as the same as them. A Chechen and Russian aren't going to view themselves as same from an ethnic perspective. Kurds and Persians don't see themselves as the same. From a nationality perspective as Americans we aren't going to see us as being the same as Canadians.
that part
People acting as if this is something new. it's giving "black Americans have the NERVE to gate keep and separate themselves".
Cnnffnfnfmcmcmc
Yea toots we do. just like other groups
It's the same sort of tribalism that he kept Africa deeply divided though.
Quote from: Introducing: Black Kalmyks on December 24, 2024, 03:09:33 PMQuote from: Summertime on December 24, 2024, 02:56:05 PMQuote from: Introducing: Black Kalmyks on December 24, 2024, 12:23:28 PMAnd honestly coming up in here to co-sign this Gordita and his foolery only lends credence to any ideas that FBAs have about drawing lines and side-eyeing and closely watching those who they don't deem to be FBA
Being truly Black American isn't just about you being born into it IMO. It's about loving black American-ness, defending it when when necessary, staying on code when necessary , dragging tf out of anyone who tries it when necessary , prioritizing the needs/best interests of the community over any others
And loving GODlanta. :woohoo:
Dndndndnnfndnd
:scrumptious:
I see it as being about being of the bloodline and culture and gatekeeping. AAVE, food, commonalities, family histories, etc. cannot be flattened bc of shared race.
Other ethnicities delineate so black americans doing it isn't new. Even tribes throughout the world in many countries do it. An Igbo isn't going to view a Fulani as the same as them. A Chechen and Russian aren't going to view themselves as same from an ethnic perspective. Kurds and Persians don't see themselves as the same. From a nationality perspective as Americans we aren't going to see us as being the same as Canadians.
that part
People acting as if this is something new. it's giving "black Americans have the NERVE to gate keep and separate themselves".
Cnnffnfnfmcmcmc
Yea toots we do. just like other groups
Lemme get in here for a min. It's okay for any other race or culture to gatekeeper but inclusivity has to be the norm when it comes to black America.
Quote from: The Brandy Barbie on December 22, 2024, 01:23:58 PMIt's very counterproductive. We have so many different types of people in this country with different stories. Why are we shutting out so many of the people who look like us from other places and mixed people who all experience some of the same racism we experience? We are stronger when there is more of us coming together. Cutting ourselves into little groups against each other just makes us have that much less of a voice, imo.
This is what BA were doing literally from the 60s-10s. The reason these ADOS & FBA groups are just now popping up is because we've tried that inclusivity stuff with those who look like us, only for them to chip away at our global accomplishment, contributions and influence and claim (some of) it as their own. Africans and Carribeans are the ones who drew the lines of "blackness" first. Before being "black" was the trend, they were quick to correct you on their identity and to let you know we (BA) don't have history/culture nor know our roots. I love US fr regardless, but this kumbaya message would be better directed towards them, imo.
I'm not against finding commonalities
I know plenty of people who are Afro-this or afro-that and I def can appreciate the whole "we were just dropped off the ship at different places" idea
Cuz it's true in a sense
But best believe if one of them say some slick mess about Black Americans ... lines will be drawn and feelings will be hurt
:trannyjblige:
Quote from: Pearls Khan on December 24, 2024, 05:00:28 PMQuote from: The Brandy Barbie on December 22, 2024, 01:23:58 PMIt's very counterproductive. We have so many different types of people in this country with different stories. Why are we shutting out so many of the people who look like us from other places and mixed people who all experience some of the same racism we experience? We are stronger when there is more of us coming together. Cutting ourselves into little groups against each other just makes us have that much less of a voice, imo.
right there was a whole pan african movement and we are all the same, but then
This is what BA were doing literally from the 60s-10s. The reason these ADOS & FBA groups are just now popping up is because we've tried that inclusivity stuff with those who look like us, only for them to chip away at our global accomplishment, contributions and influence and claim (some of) it as their own. Africans and Carribeans are the ones who drew the lines of "blackness" first. Before being "black" was the trend, they were quick to correct you on their identity and to let you know we (BA) don't have history/culture nor know our roots. I love US fr regardless, but this kumbaya message would be better directed towards them, imo.
For example, Burna Boy's comments last year on black americans and culture.
Which makes the ppl against black americans delineation even more disingenuous because ppl will delineate black americans when it's time to insult that origin.
So the two (or how ever many) are going to continue talking shit about each other, and then what? Afro-Caribbean, Pan-Africans, FBAs, Africans...all have people with extreme views and people whose views don't represent the majority. To use that to further fuel division is silly to me. I'll continue to support blackness as much as I can. I don't give a fuck if where that blackness come from. And I wouldn't let the ignorant views of a few change that. The pale demons will forever keep us divided with shit like this.
Quote from: ❄️☃️🌨� Shuji Feels Different 🌨�☃️❄️ on December 25, 2024, 06:24:19 AMSo the two (or how ever many) are going to continue talking shit about each other, and then what? Afro-Caribbean, Pan-Africans, FBAs, Africans...all have people with extreme views and people whose views don't represent the majority. To use that to further fuel division is silly to me. I'll continue to support blackness as much as I can. I don't give a fuck if where that blackness come from. And I wouldn't let the ignorant views of a few change that. The pale demons will forever keep us divided with shit like this.
this whole "y'all idiots playing into massa's hands!" mess is foolery, and outdated IMO
Cuz division is def present and it's largely not the fault of FBAs
A lot of non-American black nationalities come here and look down on BAs. And this isn't something I looked up online or am repeating from a tweet I saw
I've seen people literally try to drag black Americans right in front of me cuz they assume I'm "from an island!" and thought it was a safe space to do so . Emphasis on thought
Calling people out on their shit and deciding that it's time for hard lines to be drawn is what I'd call
necessary division to protect a space The people who are playing into the white man's mess are the ones who come here promoting and co-signing a lot of damaging messages about BAs - all in an attempt to best align themselves with the idea and image of being a "model minority"
Which is arguably a waste of time considering that labels reserved for the chinks.
Quote from: Introducing: Black Kalmyks on December 25, 2024, 07:40:05 AMQuote from: ❄️☃️🌨� Shuji Feels Different 🌨�☃️❄️ on December 25, 2024, 06:24:19 AMSo the two (or how ever many) are going to continue talking shit about each other, and then what? Afro-Caribbean, Pan-Africans, FBAs, Africans...all have people with extreme views and people whose views don't represent the majority. To use that to further fuel division is silly to me. I'll continue to support blackness as much as I can. I don't give a fuck if where that blackness come from. And I wouldn't let the ignorant views of a few change that. The pale demons will forever keep us divided with shit like this.
this whole "y'all idiots playing into massa's hands!" mess is foolery, and outdated IMO
Cuz division is def present and it's largely not the fault of FBAs
A lot of non-American black nationalities come here and look down on BAs. And this isn't something I looked up online or am repeating from a tweet I saw
I've seen people literally try to drag black Americans right in front of me cuz they assume I'm "from an island!" and thought it was a safe space to do so . Emphasis on thought
Calling people out on their shit and deciding that it's time for hard lines to be drawn is what I'd call necessary division to protect a space
The people who are playing into the white man's mess are the ones who come here promoting and co-signing a lot of damaging messages about BAs - all in an attempt to best align themselves with the idea and image of being a "model minority"
Which is arguably a waste of time considering that labels reserved for the chinks.
Everything you are saying is true, however I don't think lines can be drawn until they remove "Black" from their name. We do not own the definition of who is Black, as it is a physical characteristic shared by people on every inhabited continent. In the US, white people determine who is considered Black. As the majority, it is their perception that shapes how we are viewed and treated in society.
The conversation also needs to address the contributions of non-FBA individuals to Black American culture. Figures like Sidney Poitier, Cicely Tyson, Marcus Garvey, Harry Belafonte, Shirley Chisholm, and even Biggie and Nicki Minaj are people who have contributed significantly to African American Culture but are not FBA. For example, there are mixed people who are culturally white, like Christian Walker, per the rules he is an FBA but Rapper Trina is not? I think that they need to focus on establishing our culture, because the lineage and focusing on Black as a race is built on the same racial supremacy foundations as White Supremacy! I think that the FBA doesn't understand that people can be part of a culture even if their bloodline does not descend from it. And those like Fat Joe, should be clear that they are influenced by African American culture, and not try to brand hip hop as a culture, because its clearly not.
Quote from: ❄️☃️🌨� Shuji Feels Different 🌨�☃️❄️ on December 25, 2024, 06:24:19 AMSo the two (or how ever many) are going to continue talking shit about each other, and then what? Afro-Caribbean, Pan-Africans, FBAs, Africans...all have people with extreme views and people whose views don't represent the majority. To use that to further fuel division is silly to me. I'll continue to support blackness as much as I can. I don't give a fuck if where that blackness come from. And I wouldn't let the ignorant views of a few change that. The pale demons will forever keep us divided with shit like this.
Ok "A house divided against itself will fall." This division stuff is not smart. That's how they kept slaves on the plantation I fighting each other - light skinned vs dark skinned, and causing division between males and females so they wouldn't look to the real enemies and all work together to get out of their situation.
Quote from: BruceTruMusicFan on December 25, 2024, 09:13:42 AMQuote from: Introducing: Black Kalmyks on December 25, 2024, 07:40:05 AMQuote from: ❄️☃️🌨� Shuji Feels Different 🌨�☃️❄️ on December 25, 2024, 06:24:19 AMSo the two (or how ever many) are going to continue talking shit about each other, and then what? Afro-Caribbean, Pan-Africans, FBAs, Africans...all have people with extreme views and people whose views don't represent the majority. To use that to further fuel division is silly to me. I'll continue to support blackness as much as I can. I don't give a fuck if where that blackness come from. And I wouldn't let the ignorant views of a few change that. The pale demons will forever keep us divided with shit like this.
this whole "y'all idiots playing into massa's hands!" mess is foolery, and outdated IMO
Cuz division is def present and it's largely not the fault of FBAs
A lot of non-American black nationalities come here and look down on BAs. And this isn't something I looked up online or am repeating from a tweet I saw
I've seen people literally try to drag black Americans right in front of me cuz they assume I'm "from an island!" and thought it was a safe space to do so . Emphasis on thought
Calling people out on their shit and deciding that it's time for hard lines to be drawn is what I'd call necessary division to protect a space
The people who are playing into the white man's mess are the ones who come here promoting and co-signing a lot of damaging messages about BAs - all in an attempt to best align themselves with the idea and image of being a "model minority"
Which is arguably a waste of time considering that labels reserved for the chinks.
Everything you are saying is true, however I don't think lines can be drawn until they remove "Black" from their name. We do not own the definition of who is Black, as it is a physical characteristic shared by people on every inhabited continent. In the US, white people determine who is considered Black. As the majority, it is their perception that shapes how we are viewed and treated in society.
The conversation also needs to address the contributions of non-FBA individuals to Black American culture. Figures like Sidney Poitier, Cicely Tyson, Marcus Garvey, Harry Belafonte, Shirley Chisholm, and even Biggie and Nicki Minaj are people who have contributed significantly to African American Culture but are not FBA. For example, there are mixed people who are culturally white, like Christian Walker, per the rules he is an FBA but Rapper Trina is not? I think that they need to focus on establishing our culture, because the lineage and focusing on Black as a race is built on the same racial supremacy foundations as White Supremacy! I think that the FBA doesn't understand that people can be part of a culture even if their bloodline does not descend from it. And those like Fat Joe, should be clear that they are influenced by African American culture, and not try to brand hip hop as a culture, because its clearly not.
two things can be true at the same time
Non-FBAs (especially Nicki :blush: as u mentioned) can be thanked for what they bring to America and entertaining Black Americans
And there can still be boundaries. No different than healthy relationships with friends/family. Love you, but here's the lines I've drawn - please respect them.
It doesn't have to be this "versus" thing or "fuck y'all!". It doesn't have to be dramatic and malicious.
has anyone said FUCK fat joe in here yet?
Quote from: i'm oph, he's mine on December 26, 2024, 07:36:32 AMhas anyone said FUCK fat joe in here yet?
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Quote from: Nissan Altima on December 26, 2024, 08:19:29 AMQuote from: i'm oph, he's mine on December 26, 2024, 07:36:32 AMhas anyone said FUCK fat joe in here yet?
Djfjfjfjfjfj all these essays. Let's just cut to the chase
I hate when unintelligent people make comments like this. Girl live in your ignorance boldly, sis.
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Quote from: BruceTruMusicFan on December 27, 2024, 09:50:06 AMQuote from: Nissan Altima on December 26, 2024, 08:19:29 AMQuote from: i'm oph, he's mine on December 26, 2024, 07:36:32 AMhas anyone said FUCK fat joe in here yet?
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Djfjfjfjfjfj all these essays. Let's just cut to the chase
I hate when unintelligent people make comments like this. Girl live in your ignorance boldly, sis.
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