https://www.instagram.com/p/DW7btODFHHZ/
This is so unnecessary. I wish somebody would ask about them bastard kids he don't acknowledge.
Mathew did not start DC.
:usuresis:
He's right. DC is bigger than both. MAYBE TLC had a shot tho
The way he says it so confidently as if GODlli isn't constantly cited as the group who has sold more worldwide
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_girl_groups
Quote from: Marilyn on April 10, 2026, 09:25:38 PMThis is so unnecessary. I wish somebody would ask about them bastard kids he don't acknowledge.
or why Bey don't acknowledge HIM
I mean, he's not wrong, but there's no point in bringing it up
Quote from: Ulysses on April 11, 2026, 08:45:57 AMI mean, he's not wrong, but there's no point in bringing it up
TLConfederacy >
Is this what he does now? 🙄
We know DC3 had more international success, we also know that TLC had more cultural impact and SWV had better music.
Quote from: Gilgamesh. on April 11, 2026, 12:49:23 PMIs this what he does now? 🙄
We know DC3 had more international success, we also know that TLC had more cultural impact and SWV had better music.
SWV had better music than who? :dead:
SWV'S music is NOT good :plzstop:
They're the lowest on this totem pole tbh
Quote from: Vonc2002 on April 11, 2026, 01:27:26 PMSWV'S music is NOT good :plzstop:
They're the lowest on this totem pole tbh
Oh lord
SWV's music had good music :uhh:
Oh, and TLC shits on Destiny's Child.
The gorls love to put DC above TLC because Beyaki was perched in the group.
Can't speak for anybody else but Beyonce has nothing to do with Destiny's Child for me. Not in the way yall try to say it. I like Destiny's Child more than I like Beyonce. As a matter of fact, I have told friends the only way I'm seeing Beyonce live again is if she tours with DC. Beyonce isn't everyone's everything so please kill that. Destiny's Child LITERALLY is the best singing group of these listed and they had better music. The music part is the only part that can maybe be preference. But NEITHER of these groups are better than DC in any way imo.
And SWV has a handful of good songs so PLEASE :dead:
Guys. DC produced one of the most major stars in the WORLD :uhh:
Why are we still having this discussion??
Wait didn't TLC outsell all 3 globally? I know DC came close but he acting like TLC was a local sensation, they were probably as big or next to Spice Girls in their prime
Quote from: Harlem on April 11, 2026, 04:54:47 PMWait didn't TLC outsell all 3 globally? I know DC came close but he acting like TLC was a local sensation, they were probably as big or next to Spice Girls in their prime
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GODlli def is most often cited as the biggest selling internationally. a simple Google search would give the gorls tea
Mathew's telling his lies so well that people listening are actually believing them too.
To be so accomplished and seemingly a man's man......he really seems kinda fragile.
between this mess and him storming off during an interview from the mere mention of Tina's name...yikes.
the fragility is slowly crawling into delusion. is king spiraling tf owt?
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thats next tbh
Always TLC for me
Quote from: Harlem on April 11, 2026, 04:54:47 PMWait didn't TLC outsell all 3 globally? I know DC came close but he acting like TLC was a local sensation, they were probably as big or next to Spice Girls in their prime
Yeah I remember TLC being cited as the biggest selling girl group at awards shows etc and this was while DC3 were still relevant.
Idk if it changed that much after Destiny Fulfilled came out.
Quote from: Ulysses on April 11, 2026, 03:12:52 PMGuys. DC produced one of the most major stars in the WORLD :uhh:
Why are we still having this discussion??
most overrated stars
I think TLC and DC are tied worldwide. It's just that DC were more recent and pop memory is fragile, so it depends on the demographic.
Beyonce is overrated?
And SWV's music is immaculate and nobody ever talks about no goddamn ugly ass Xscape :cheerup: :cheerup:
Quote from: Justaway_ on April 12, 2026, 09:27:37 AMI think TLC and DC are tied worldwide. It's just that DC were more recent and pop memory is fragile, so it depends on the demographic.
yea everything i looked up said they both sold 60 million records worldwide. I asked Alexa who sold more and she they are even but DC has the edge for a reason I can't remember
Google AI pulls from multiple sources across the internet to form its conclusion to a question
as i mentioned earlier, it's mostly cited that GODlli has sold more.
not to say it's a TON more, and i'd say it's actually reasonable to say it's damn near a tie.
or even to simplify it further and say "they sold the same amount".
but at least some of us are now questioning Mathew's ridiculous claim that DC easily curb stomped GODlli n the pips
he's delusional.
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This nonsense must be stopped
TLC has sold more records in the US. We gotta give em that. I just think we think differently of DC because of a few different reasons. Beyonce is the obvious first one. Them not having not ONE flop album. And they're still pretty relevant to this day. Destiny's Child could release an album TODAY and I think without a doubt it would go atleast 2x platinum. And it's not just because "OH BEYONCE"
I think we just like Destiny's Child more overall as a group. There's a reason Kelly Rowland who isn't some musical force can still be as relevant as she is. Michelle williams is loved and still relevant in her own regard. DC is the only female group where the women all branched out and have successfully maintained their image and relevancy. Well in the US atleast. The spice girls are THEE girls tbh. The spice girls sold more records than all these hoes :loose2when:
I don't understand how the Spice Girls really sold that much when they were only around for about 5 years
Quote from: RAY7 on April 12, 2026, 11:01:50 AMI don't understand how the Spice Girls really sold that much when they were only around for about 5 years
they were a FORCE! I fckn loved them :omf:
And they were just more marketable worldwide. The world is inherently racist and while someone like Michael Jackson can break thru, there's only so much a group full of black women can do unfortunately
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I'm looking at these sales breakdowns on Wikipedia
I think TLC might have Spice Girls beat worldwide. I don't feel like calculating the sales from all these countries worldwide for all their singles.
Wikipedia says Crazy Sexy Cool And Spice both sold 23 million worldwide
Then Spice World sold 14 million
FanMail and Ooooh on TLC tip sold 10 million and 6 Million
The 3rd Spice Girls album sold about 2 million
TLC 3D sold 600k in the US
Even this is doing too much for me but I'm getting about 40 million from both groups but I think TLC is a little bit ahead
Quote from: Gilgamesh. on April 11, 2026, 12:49:23 PMIs this what he does now? 🙄
We know DC3 had more international success, we also know that TLC had more cultural impact and SWV had better music.
This is fair
Quote from: Vonc2002 on April 12, 2026, 09:27:47 AMBeyonce is overrated?
Not really if we're being honest.
Quote from: RAY7 on April 12, 2026, 11:37:56 AMI'm looking at these sales breakdowns on Wikipedia
I think TLC might have Spice Girls beat worldwide. I don't feel like calculating the sales from all these countries worldwide for all their singles.
Wikipedia says Crazy Sexy Cool And Spice both sold 23 million worldwide
Then Spice World sold 14 million
FanMail and Ooooh on TLC tip sold 10 million and 6 Million
The 3rd Spice Girls album sold about 2 million
TLC 3D sold 600k in the US
Even this is doing too much for me but I'm getting about 40 million from both groups but I think TLC is a little bit ahead
the spice girls has sold over 100 million records worldwide. Thats singles and everything. It's not just about ALBUMS sold. Idc where u look and who u ask, the spice girls eclipses TLC. Thats not even debatable :dead:
The world is inherently racist and I think this "100 Million records worldwide" for the Spice Girls is propaganda to have the group with mostly white women as the biggest group. Ppl don't fact check it because it "makes sense" to see White ppl sell the most. But these certifications in a lot of these international countries are not equal to the US certifications. They sold 10x platinum in the UK and Canada, but platinum is 300k, so for all of that it's only 3 million. These other countries like New Zealand, Ireland, Sweden etc is even less than that. It's all a racist propaganda
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Quote from: Vonc2002 on April 12, 2026, 11:45:02 AMQuote from: RAY7 on April 12, 2026, 11:37:56 AMI'm looking at these sales breakdowns on Wikipedia
I think TLC might have Spice Girls beat worldwide. I don't feel like calculating the sales from all these countries worldwide for all their singles.
Wikipedia says Crazy Sexy Cool And Spice both sold 23 million worldwide
Then Spice World sold 14 million
FanMail and Ooooh on TLC tip sold 10 million and 6 Million
The 3rd Spice Girls album sold about 2 million
TLC 3D sold 600k in the US
Even this is doing too much for me but I'm getting about 40 million from both groups but I think TLC is a little bit ahead
the spice girls has sold over 100 million records worldwide. Thats singles and everything. It's not just about ALBUMS sold. Idc where u look and who u ask, the spice girls eclipses TLC. Thats not even debatable :dead:
I was looking into all of that. Of course any publication you look at will tell you the Spice Girls sold more. That's what the media wants you to think.
The way I'm digging back in and even their flop material is :gorlonfire:
https://youtu.be/gFBWbH5CeRE
SING GIRLS!
I don't think it's just cuz they're mostly white
I'd say Spice Girls were like a whole massive brand
All the products etc
I remember
Especially me getting suspended for calling an Indian girl curry spice
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They were def a very big thing. Their branding was so easily marketable to kids . With all the lollipops/candy and mess
I def wasnt rushing to buy their album like I was TWOTW and only know like 2 of their songs , but they were inescapable
And that could be in part to the fact that I wasn't in a mostly black school at the time of their height . So it was just always around me .
That's what makes it believable IMO
The way no one STILL cant tell me shit about baby (emma)
This bitch STILL stunning at 50
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Whenever she EASES on the track with that smooth ass tone :omf:
Quote from: ATLien on April 12, 2026, 11:54:45 AMI don't think it's just cuz they're mostly white
I'd say Spice Girls were like a whole massive brand
All the products etc
I remember
Especially me getting suspended for calling an Indian girl curry spice
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They were def a very big thing. Their branding was so easily marketable to kids . With all the lollipops/candy and mess
I def wasnt rushing to buy their album like I was TWOTW and only know like 2 of their songs , but they were inescapable
And that could be in part to the fact that I wasn't in a mostly black school at the time of their height . So it was just always around me .
That's what makes it believable IMO
The bitches had a fckn MOVIE. They were a FORCE when they came out and maybe he's just forgetting that but TLC NEVER was what the spice girls were....like EVER and I like TLC
Quote from: Vonc2002 on April 12, 2026, 11:58:09 AMQuote from: ATLien on April 12, 2026, 11:54:45 AMI don't think it's just cuz they're mostly white
I'd say Spice Girls were like a whole massive brand
All the products etc
I remember
Especially me getting suspended for calling an Indian girl curry spice
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They were def a very big thing. Their branding was so easily marketable to kids . With all the lollipops/candy and mess
I def wasnt rushing to buy their album like I was TWOTW and only know like 2 of their songs , but they were inescapable
And that could be in part to the fact that I wasn't in a mostly black school at the time of their height . So it was just always around me .
That's what makes it believable IMO
The bitches had a fckn MOVIE. They were a FORCE when they came out and maybe he's just forgetting that but TLC NEVER was what the spice girls were....like EVER and I like TLC
i think theyre kinda boring musically but their branding was def A1
i mean if they sold more its great but its kinda like comparing Taylor Swift to Beyonce
which a lot of people try to do
and saying Taylor is "better" and referencing sales and figures as if that proves their opinion to be fact
if fas was a White woman with just half the talent and "it" factor she has we wouldn't know a got damn Taylor Swift
but its like ok gor ... let her have it n stuff
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for me a TLC/DC vs Spice Girls debate is silly
id rather discuss how GODlli BOOKED the gorls in her lane :trannyjblige:
Quote from: ATLien on April 12, 2026, 11:54:45 AMI don't think it's just cuz they're mostly white
I'd say Spice Girls were like a whole massive brand
All the products etc
I remember
Especially me getting suspended for calling an Indian girl curry spice
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They were def a very big thing. Their branding was so easily marketable to kids . With all the lollipops/candy and mess
I def wasnt rushing to buy their album like I was TWOTW and only know like 2 of their songs , but they were inescapable
And that could be in part to the fact that I wasn't in a mostly black school at the time of their height . So it was just always around me .
That's what makes it believable IMO
oh they were a huge brand. My sister had a Mel B toy, and different merch. There was even a video game and everything. However that doesn't instantly translate into record sales. They were kinda like Hannah Montana was, or like the Power Rangers or other 90s fads that lasted like 5 years.
I just calculated all the certifications for "Wannabe"
It sold 7.1 million worldwide
No Scrubs sold 8 million between the US and UK alone
The girls were huge stars but no one took them seriously as artists
Quote from: RAY7 on April 12, 2026, 12:11:54 PMQuote from: ATLien on April 12, 2026, 11:54:45 AMI don't think it's just cuz they're mostly white
I'd say Spice Girls were like a whole massive brand
All the products etc
I remember
Especially me getting suspended for calling an Indian girl curry spice
Fnnfnfnfnnfnfnnfnbbbbbbbbb
They were def a very big thing. Their branding was so easily marketable to kids . With all the lollipops/candy and mess
I def wasnt rushing to buy their album like I was TWOTW and only know like 2 of their songs , but they were inescapable
And that could be in part to the fact that I wasn't in a mostly black school at the time of their height . So it was just always around me .
That's what makes it believable IMO
oh they were a huge brand. My sister had a Mel B toy, and different merch. There was even a video game and everything. However that doesn't instantly translate into record sales. They were kinda like Hannah Montana was, or like the Power Rangers or other 90s fads that lasted like 5 years.
I just calculated all the certifications for "Wannabe"
It sold 7.1 million worldwide
No Scrubs sold 8 million between the US and UK alone
The girls were huge stars but no one took them seriously as artists
i think its just a combo of things
yes theyre White but also when u consider the branding, the super pop/ dance-pop music....
GODlli and DC were moreso R&B/pop crossover as opposed to pure pop.
by the strictest R&B standards they were very poppy of course but in comparison to the Spice Girls their music def was designed to hook their Black audience and then spread out as much as possible to other audiences. Which they did perfectly
but i believe SG is the best selling. i mean it makes sense with ALL factors considered. now if someone comes to tell me the group "Dream" was out here booking platinum plaques I'd say yeah gorl u just saying that cuz they're White.
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The preference part isn't even worth mentioning. Thats like comparing michael to prince musically when they are VASTLY different. We're discussing numbers in here and if it's about numbers the spice girls EASILY win. Ray can run around in here but theres thing u just cant deny. Like...well THIS for example
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TLC can NOT do this. First of all, TLC cant sell out a stadium or even do a stadium tour, FLAT OUT! These bitches did a MONTH! STADIUM tour, ONLY did 13 shows, and ONLY did the UK and Ireland and made 78 million fckn dollars. The ONLY girl group discussed in here that can do anything even remotely similar is DC. Talk is cheap, let's talk numbers :dead:
Like these bitches made 78 million dollars for 13 shows in a fckn MONTH! :plzstop:
NONE of these girls are doing that!
Propaganda :kii:
And if u do even the smallest amount of looking online they are still asking these girls to tour and "WHEN THEY GONNA DO IT" while they sit around like MAYBE, who knows hehe :roflmao:
The demand is just NOT the same :omf:
Quote from: Vonc2002 on April 12, 2026, 12:17:31 PMThe preference part isn't even worth mentioning. Thats like comparing michael to prince musically when they are VASTLY different. We're discussing numbers in here and if it's about numbers the spice girls EASILY win. Ray can run around in here but theres thing u just cant deny. Like...well THIS for example
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TLC can NOT do this. First of all, TLC cant sell out a stadium or even do a stadium tour, FLAT OUT! These bitches did a MONTH! STADIUM tour, ONLY did 13 shows, and ONLY did the UK and Ireland and made 78 million fckn dollars. The ONLY girl group discussed in here that can do anything even remotely similar is DC. Talk is cheap, let's talk numbers :dead:
um we were talking about record sales. Congrats on this big reunion concert
and that's not even fair to TLC because one of their members died 20 years ago in their prime and one is fighting for her life with sickle cell. Of course they're not putting on a huge tour, and are barely making it with the tour they're currently on
Yea the spice girls have member issues as well. As u see there Victoria wasnt there. All this nonsense about health issues :dead:
TLC is still currently touring amidst health issues if the demand was there for them to do a stadium tour THEY WOULD. This CLEARLY shows their levels arent the same. TLC isn't even doing arenas, let alone stadiums. I'm not gonna have this convo when the numbers speak for themselves but u can continue rambling on about propaganda.
The numbers do speak
Waterfalls sold 1.2 million in the US
and Spice Up Your life sold 600k in the whole world including the US
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Of course more ppl will go to a Spice Girls concert when they know all of them are ALIVE and healthy enough to be there, and with FIVE members they can fill in if one doesn't come
Meanwhile you have Chilli perfectly fine but T Boz is overweight and prone to having "crises" with her sickle cell and she can't dance full out like she used to. No promoter is booking them for a big stadium tour
Their songs still can and likely have sold more than Spice Girls though
Wait! May 24th to June 15th! 78 million dollars in 3 WEEKS!
What kinda phenom :plzstop:
Quote from: RAY7 on April 12, 2026, 12:43:17 PMOf course more ppl will go to a Spice Girls concert when they know all of them are ALIVE and healthy enough to be there, and with FIVE members they can fill in if one doesn't come
Meanwhile you have Chilli perfectly fine but T Boz is overweight and prone to having "crises" with her sickle cell and she can't dance full out like she used to. No promoter is booking them for a big stadium tour
Their songs still can and likely have sold more than Spice Girls though
the excuses for these girls being LESS THAN :plzstop: :kii:
BTW Spice up ur life is gold in the US and Double platinum in the uk (1.2 million), just those 2 places. Eventho I thought that was random and weird to cherry pick some random song as if one being more popular than the other was supposed to mean ANYTHING but to also just flat out lie.....yea, ur clearly upset and I'm gonna leave u to lie in peace :dead:
ray kinda ate u up boo . luv u downe but i gotta keep it real
will read what was said in a few mins
Quote from: Vonc2002 on April 12, 2026, 12:56:00 PMQuote from: RAY7 on April 12, 2026, 12:43:17 PMOf course more ppl will go to a Spice Girls concert when they know all of them are ALIVE and healthy enough to be there, and with FIVE members they can fill in if one doesn't come
Meanwhile you have Chilli perfectly fine but T Boz is overweight and prone to having "crises" with her sickle cell and she can't dance full out like she used to. No promoter is booking them for a big stadium tour
Their songs still can and likely have sold more than Spice Girls though
the excuses for these girls being LESS THAN :plzstop: :kii:
BTW Spice up ur life is gold in the US and Double platinum in the uk (1.2 million), just those 2 places. Eventho I thought that was random and weird to cherry pick some random song as if one being more popular than the other was supposed to mean ANYTHING but to also just flat out lie.....yea, ur clearly upset and I'm gonna leave u to lie in peace :dead:
Waterfalls sold 1.2 Million in the US and 1.2 Million in the UK
they still sold MORE
and that's one of the biggest known Spice Girls songs that's why I used it
But I think I mixed up the 600k figure with one of their other songs that also sold less than TLC
and it's real convenient that you're moving the goalposts to concert tickets
When has anyone ever compared concert gross when discussing record sales?
Why the fuck are we comparing TLC's most successful song in their catalogue to Spice Girls' like 5th or 6th best selling single? :uhh:
We already compared TLC's biggest selling single No Scrubs to Spice Girls biggest single Wannabe
and TLC won.
Quote from: Ulysses on April 12, 2026, 05:52:15 PMWhy the fuck are we comparing TLC's most successful song in their catalogue to Spice Girls' like 5th or 6th best selling single? :uhh:
it literally made no sense but OK :dead:
Quote from: Vonc2002 on April 12, 2026, 11:04:21 AMQuote from: RAY7 on April 12, 2026, 11:01:50 AMI don't understand how the Spice Girls really sold that much when they were only around for about 5 years
they were a FORCE! I fckn loved them :omf:
Yet u hate Mel C when she's the most successful girl off the group :cmerefag:
Quote from: Vonc2002 on April 12, 2026, 06:08:16 PMQuote from: Ulysses on April 12, 2026, 05:52:15 PMWhy the fuck are we comparing TLC's most successful song in their catalogue to Spice Girls' like 5th or 6th best selling single? :uhh:
it literally made no sense but OK :dead:
It's like comparing "I Like It" to "Chun Li" :unsure:
Quote from: Justaway_ on April 12, 2026, 09:08:36 PMQuote from: Vonc2002 on April 12, 2026, 11:04:21 AMQuote from: RAY7 on April 12, 2026, 11:01:50 AMI don't understand how the Spice Girls really sold that much when they were only around for about 5 years
they were a FORCE! I fckn loved them :omf:
Yet u hate Mel C when she's the most successful girl off the group :cmerefag:
how do u remember that :plzstop:
But yea, that dyke never moved me :damselindistress:
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TLC vocals are average at best imo they have great songs and had a great image/appeal but vocally they could never see Xscape or SWV.
Quote from: Vonc2002 on April 12, 2026, 11:53:56 AMThe way I'm digging back in and even their flop material is :gorlonfire:
https://youtu.be/gFBWbH5CeRE
SING GIRLS!
This is my fckin MESS
:gorlonfire: