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Title: Toya and Tavia’s TWOTW isolated vocals
Post by: RAY7 on June 17, 2026, 07:33:14 AM
Some of these have me chuckling
Toy sounds so pretty in some of these though
Title: Re: Toya and Tavia’s TWOTW isolated vocals
Post by: klappa. on June 17, 2026, 08:39:19 AM
they both sound great and did their damn thing
Title: Re: Toya and Tavia’s TWOTW isolated vocals
Post by: Gilgamesh. on June 17, 2026, 11:34:43 AM
Did this come up in your recommended too?  :plzstop:

Tavia sounds crusty but I like what she brought to the Amazing Grace acapella.

Toya surprised me, there are some parts I thought was Bey all these years. Her tone would have been great on some of the songs Kelly leads.
Title: Re: Toya and Tavia’s TWOTW isolated vocals
Post by: RAY7 on June 17, 2026, 11:54:12 AM
Yea. I went to the person's page and saw they also uploaded the Bey and Kelly harmony parts too
and it's sooooo much longer ggghyjff
Title: Re: Toya and Tavia’s TWOTW isolated vocals
Post by: Gilgamesh. on June 17, 2026, 12:15:12 PM
Quote from: RAY7 on June 17, 2026, 11:54:12 AMYea. I went to the person's page and saw they also uploaded the Bey and Kelly harmony parts too
and it's sooooo much longer ggghyjff

Vvvv

I haven't listened to it yet but sounds about right.

Ns Bey did say them girls didn't sing shit :kii:
Title: Re: Toya and Tavia’s TWOTW isolated vocals
Post by: ReVon on June 17, 2026, 12:31:53 PM
 :dead:
Title: Re: Toya and Tavia’s TWOTW isolated vocals
Post by: Ulysses on June 17, 2026, 01:01:30 PM
This made me giggle
Title: Re: Toya and Tavia’s TWOTW isolated vocals
Post by: RAY7 on June 17, 2026, 01:25:26 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh. on June 17, 2026, 12:15:12 PM
Quote from: RAY7 on June 17, 2026, 11:54:12 AMYea. I went to the person's page and saw they also uploaded the Bey and Kelly harmony parts too
and it's sooooo much longer ggghyjff

Vvvv

I haven't listened to it yet but sounds about right.

Ns Bey did say them girls didn't sing shit :kii:
been telling ppl for YEARS
These girls sang on like 5 songs but they wanted to be treated as equal members
 :omf:
Title: Re: Toya and Tavia’s TWOTW isolated vocals
Post by: klappa. on June 17, 2026, 01:33:20 PM
yea toya and tav were equal members and are highly regarded to this by real dc fans lolz
Title: Re: Toya and Tavia’s TWOTW isolated vocals
Post by: ReVon on June 17, 2026, 01:36:44 PM
They definitely were pivotal parts of the group, even
if it was mostly for looks. It was absolutely needed for the formula.
Title: Re: Toya and Tavia’s TWOTW isolated vocals
Post by: RAY7 on June 17, 2026, 01:43:13 PM
They were group members that didn't do as much work as the others yet wanted to be compensated as if they did
Title: Re: Toya and Tavia’s TWOTW isolated vocals
Post by: Ulysses on June 17, 2026, 01:58:09 PM
We also know what these girls sound like. Especially Tavia  :unsure:
Title: Re: Toya and Tavia’s TWOTW isolated vocals
Post by: Vonc2002 on June 17, 2026, 02:00:21 PM
Quote from: ReVonIsMine on June 17, 2026, 01:36:44 PMThey definitely were pivotal parts of the group, even
if it was mostly for looks. It was absolutely needed for the formula.
Title: Re: Toya and Tavia’s TWOTW isolated vocals
Post by: Vonc2002 on June 17, 2026, 02:05:18 PM
The esthetics are essential as well.  They had been in the group for years.  If they didn't want them there or wanted girls who contributed "MORE"  then they shouldn't have been accepted from the inception.  So now that I'm here,  yes I will be requiring equal. And based on what Latoya has done musically she could've contributed more, so I'm inclined to think they just did what was asked of them and no more.  Kelly Rowland ain't no more vocally skilled than Latoya and tbh Latoya gives me more personally. Glad they went to court and got their shit
Title: Re: Toya and Tavia’s TWOTW isolated vocals
Post by: RAY7 on June 17, 2026, 02:35:33 PM
I could see if we were discussing more lead vocals, but as a member of the group why is your voice not at least in the background harmonies of every song? This is part of why groups don't last cuz, if the song only has MY VOICE, how is it DESTINY'S CHIlD, and why are the girls who are lip syncing to my vocals expecting to get paid for it?
Title: Re: Toya and Tavia’s TWOTW isolated vocals
Post by: Kalifornia. on June 17, 2026, 02:47:02 PM
How do we know it was Toy & Tav's decision to not record on certain songs?
Title: Re: Toya and Tavia’s TWOTW isolated vocals
Post by: RAY7 on June 17, 2026, 02:50:47 PM
I guess we all go off the stories that came out in the media. They were too busy being distracted talking to the Jagged Edge twins and missing studio sessions
Title: Re: Toya and Tavia’s TWOTW isolated vocals
Post by: Vonc2002 on June 17, 2026, 02:51:34 PM
Quote from: Kalifornia. on June 17, 2026, 02:47:02 PMHow do we know it was Toy & Tav's decision to not record on certain songs?
and this is exactly my point and why I'm not accepting this "They only did" shit.  I fully believe that that girl's father not only always had solo aspirations for her but also pushed her to the front and made that group (and songs) beyonce heavy.  Huge conflict of interest and those girls deserved their shit. They was good enough to do not only 1 album but 2. The issue started when they didnt wanna be doormats.
Title: Re: Toya and Tavia’s TWOTW isolated vocals
Post by: Kalifornia. on June 17, 2026, 02:55:24 PM
Quote from: RAY7 on June 17, 2026, 02:50:47 PMI guess we all go off the stories that came out in the media. They were too busy being distracted talking to the Jagged Edge twins and missing studio sessions

Because Bey & Mathew said so?

Bey also said she wrote Bootylicious on an airplane :dead:
Title: Re: Toya and Tavia’s TWOTW isolated vocals
Post by: RAY7 on June 17, 2026, 02:57:20 PM
The real original managers of Destiny's Child already debunked the theory that "Mathew pushed Beyonce to the forefront!"
Beyonce was chosen as the lead singer way back in Girl Tyme when Mathew wasn't even involved with the group
He only became the manager because he threatened to remove Beyonce if the real manager said no. Then she died and he took over but the group dynamics were already in place.
and Beyonce in the forefront is not stopping the rest the group from singing the harmonies.
Title: Re: Toya and Tavia’s TWOTW isolated vocals
Post by: Kalifornia. on June 17, 2026, 02:57:24 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on June 17, 2026, 02:51:34 PM
Quote from: Kalifornia. on June 17, 2026, 02:47:02 PMHow do we know it was Toy & Tav's decision to not record on certain songs?
and this is exactly my point and why I'm not accepting this "They only did" shit.  I fully believe that that girl's father not only always had solo aspirations for her but also pushed her to the front and made that group (and songs) beyonce heavy.  Huge conflict of interest and those girls deserved their shit. They was good enough to do not only 1 album but 2. The issue started when they didnt wanna be doormats.

!!!!
I don't trust anything Bey or her family said about that time. We all have seen Mathew's character.
Title: Re: Toya and Tavia’s TWOTW isolated vocals
Post by: RAY7 on June 17, 2026, 02:58:12 PM
Quote from: Kalifornia. on June 17, 2026, 02:55:24 PM
Quote from: RAY7 on June 17, 2026, 02:50:47 PMI guess we all go off the stories that came out in the media. They were too busy being distracted talking to the Jagged Edge twins and missing studio sessions

Because Bey & Mathew said so?

Bey also said she wrote Bootylicious on an airplane :dead:
and the true writer never sued her and made her remove her credit?
Hmmm
Title: Re: Toya and Tavia’s TWOTW isolated vocals
Post by: Kalifornia. on June 17, 2026, 02:58:30 PM
Quote from: RAY7 on June 17, 2026, 02:57:20 PMThe real original managers of Destiny's Child already debunked the theory that "Mathew pushed Beyonce to the forefront!"
Beyonce was chosen as the lead singer way back in Girl Tyme when Mathew wasn't even involved with the group
He only became the manager because he threatened to remove Beyonce if the real manager said no. Then she died and he took over but the group dynamics were already in place.
and Beyonce in the forefront is not stopping the rest the group from singing the harmonies.

Letoya, Latavia, and Farrah said Bey was pushed to the front. So who are we believing?
Title: Re: Toya and Tavia’s TWOTW isolated vocals
Post by: RAY7 on June 17, 2026, 02:59:43 PM
Quote from: Kalifornia. on June 17, 2026, 02:58:30 PM
Quote from: RAY7 on June 17, 2026, 02:57:20 PMThe real original managers of Destiny's Child already debunked the theory that "Mathew pushed Beyonce to the forefront!"
Beyonce was chosen as the lead singer way back in Girl Tyme when Mathew wasn't even involved with the group
He only became the manager because he threatened to remove Beyonce if the real manager said no. Then she died and he took over but the group dynamics were already in place.
and Beyonce in the forefront is not stopping the rest the group from singing the harmonies.

Letoya, Latavia, and Farrah said Bey was pushed to the front. So who are we believing?
Im believing the adult man that is not Mathew who was actually the manager before him and before LeToya was even in the group
Title: Re: Toya and Tavia’s TWOTW isolated vocals
Post by: Kalifornia. on June 17, 2026, 02:59:47 PM
Quote from: RAY7 on June 17, 2026, 02:58:12 PM
Quote from: Kalifornia. on June 17, 2026, 02:55:24 PM
Quote from: RAY7 on June 17, 2026, 02:50:47 PMI guess we all go off the stories that came out in the media. They were too busy being distracted talking to the Jagged Edge twins and missing studio sessions

Because Bey & Mathew said so?

Bey also said she wrote Bootylicious on an airplane :dead:
and the true writer never sued her and made her remove her credit?
Hmmm

There are 2 other writers on the song. Not counting Stevie Nicks.
Title: Re: Toya and Tavia’s TWOTW isolated vocals
Post by: M-Rocka on June 17, 2026, 03:16:01 PM
LeToya >>>>
Title: Re: Toya and Tavia’s TWOTW isolated vocals
Post by: Vonc2002 on June 17, 2026, 03:17:04 PM
Quote from: Kalifornia. on June 17, 2026, 02:57:24 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on June 17, 2026, 02:51:34 PM
Quote from: Kalifornia. on June 17, 2026, 02:47:02 PMHow do we know it was Toy & Tav's decision to not record on certain songs?
and this is exactly my point and why I'm not accepting this "They only did" shit.  I fully believe that that girl's father not only always had solo aspirations for her but also pushed her to the front and made that group (and songs) beyonce heavy.  Huge conflict of interest and those girls deserved their shit. They was good enough to do not only 1 album but 2. The issue started when they didnt wanna be doormats.

!!!!
I don't trust anything Bey or her family said about that time. We all have seen Mathew's character.
NOTHING!
Title: Re: Toya and Tavia’s TWOTW isolated vocals
Post by: Gilgamesh. on June 17, 2026, 03:21:11 PM
 ^_^
Title: Re: Toya and Tavia’s TWOTW isolated vocals
Post by: RAY7 on June 17, 2026, 03:32:48 PM

"Bey said! Mathew said!"
NOPE
Title: Re: Toya and Tavia’s TWOTW isolated vocals
Post by: ReVon on June 17, 2026, 03:44:07 PM
Quote from: Kalifornia. on June 17, 2026, 02:47:02 PMHow do we know it was Toy & Tav's decision to not record on certain songs?
Title: Re: Toya and Tavia’s TWOTW isolated vocals
Post by: ReVon on June 17, 2026, 03:52:46 PM
Quiet as it's kept, a lot of the blame can go on the producers/songwriters too.
A lot of the time, they only want the lead singer's vocals on the song for "cohesiveness" or because of crunch time.
I have been in too many rooms and seen this happen with groups. I disagree with this 100% though.
I love a Danity Kane type group where all members get in the game and play, big or small contributions.
Title: Re: Toya and Tavia’s TWOTW isolated vocals
Post by: ATLien on June 17, 2026, 03:58:43 PM
isolating the mess seems kinda redundant

considering their voices carried the whole project
Title: Re: Toya and Tavia’s TWOTW isolated vocals
Post by: RAY7 on June 17, 2026, 04:08:28 PM
Quote from: ATLien on June 17, 2026, 03:58:43 PMisolating the mess seems kinda redundant

considering their voices carried the whole project
some ppl wanna hear each individual part that makes the whole
Whoever this creator is also uploaded Tavia and Toya's vocal from their group Anjel, Naturi's parts from 3LW etc.
I would like them to do male groups too like 112 and Jagged Edge
Title: Re: Toya and Tavia’s TWOTW isolated vocals
Post by: ATLien on June 17, 2026, 04:12:16 PM
Quote from: RAY7 on June 17, 2026, 04:08:28 PM
Quote from: ATLien on June 17, 2026, 03:58:43 PMisolating the mess seems kinda redundant

considering their voices carried the whole project
some ppl wanna hear each individual part that makes the whole

true

i know i heard tavia, toya, kelly, farrah...think i heard solange here and there
and a bass note or two from mathew if my ears aren't deceiving me.

oh and tina's sewing machine being used as part of a beat

for the most part i think i have a super clear picture on who really delivered the alber

Title: Re: Toya and Tavia’s TWOTW isolated vocals
Post by: ReVon on June 17, 2026, 04:18:35 PM
Quote from: ATLien on June 17, 2026, 04:12:16 PMa bass note or two from mathew if my ears aren't deceiving me.

oh and tina's sewing machine being used as part of a beat




Oh you ain't shit!  :plzstop:  :kii:  :dead:
Title: Re: Toya and Tavia’s TWOTW isolated vocals
Post by: Kalifornia. on June 17, 2026, 04:20:19 PM
Quote from: ReVonIsMine on June 17, 2026, 03:52:46 PMQuiet as it's kept, a lot of the blame can go on the producers/songwriters too.
A lot of the time, they only want the lead singer's vocals on the song for "cohesiveness" or because of crunch time.
I have been in too many rooms and seen this happen with groups. I disagree with this 100% though.
I love a Danity Kane type group where all members get in the game and play, big or small contributions.

We heard what RL from Next said. he tried to have Kelly lead a song, but Mathew wasn't having it.

https://www.tiktok.com/@dropsofculture/video/7336305971620285702
Title: Re: Toya and Tavia’s TWOTW isolated vocals
Post by: RAY7 on June 17, 2026, 04:33:15 PM
Quote from: Kalifornia. on June 17, 2026, 04:20:19 PM
Quote from: ReVonIsMine on June 17, 2026, 03:52:46 PMQuiet as it's kept, a lot of the blame can go on the producers/songwriters too.
A lot of the time, they only want the lead singer's vocals on the song for "cohesiveness" or because of crunch time.
I have been in too many rooms and seen this happen with groups. I disagree with this 100% though.
I love a Danity Kane type group where all members get in the game and play, big or small contributions.

We heard what RL from Next said. he tried to have Kelly lead a song, but Mathew wasn't having it.

https://www.tiktok.com/@dropsofculture/video/7336305971620285702
yea it's not like Kelly had leads on multiple other songs already
Title: Re: Toya and Tavia’s TWOTW isolated vocals
Post by: sayvion on June 17, 2026, 04:50:15 PM
I'm not really a fence riding kinda girl, but, I can see both sides of the argument here.

The other girls should've got more shine, on one hand.

The other girls were never fucking with and to this day can never fuck with Beyonce, on the other hand.

Both things are true and the chips kinda fell where they fell. I think they should all do an album one day, sans Farrah (Cause she's a bitch). Or at least a song.
Title: Re: Toya and Tavia’s TWOTW isolated vocals
Post by: Ulysses on June 17, 2026, 06:41:27 PM
Yeahhhhh it coulda been ANY 2 other girls in the group and you wouldn't notice they were changed out.
Title: Re: Toya and Tavia’s TWOTW isolated vocals
Post by: Andthecategoryis... on June 17, 2026, 08:48:37 PM
Quote from: RAY7 on June 17, 2026, 02:35:33 PMI could see if we were discussing more lead vocals, but as a member of the group why is your voice not at least in the background harmonies of every song? This is part of why groups don't last cuz, if the song only has MY VOICE, how is it DESTINY'S CHIlD, and why are the girls who are lip syncing to my vocals expecting to get paid for it?
Girl bye, Beyonce and her family was gonna make sure she sung leads and backgrounds on every song...not to mention her name is listed as a writer or producer on every fuckin song.
Not you judging teenage girls who had pretty much no say so in their career and thinking they didn't want to do more in the group
:kii:
To this day all them girls are scared to talk and even utter a bad word about Beyanka....had Kelly and Michelle depressed for years chile

While my sista was on stage killing it like a muh va fuck ah, I was enraged, feeling it like a muh va fuck ah
Title: Re: Toya and Tavia’s TWOTW isolated vocals
Post by: Ulysses on June 18, 2026, 05:02:05 AM
Quote from: Andthecategoryis... on June 17, 2026, 08:48:37 PM
Quote from: RAY7 on June 17, 2026, 02:35:33 PMI could see if we were discussing more lead vocals, but as a member of the group why is your voice not at least in the background harmonies of every song? This is part of why groups don't last cuz, if the song only has MY VOICE, how is it DESTINY'S CHIlD, and why are the girls who are lip syncing to my vocals expecting to get paid for it?
Girl bye, Beyonce and her family was gonna make sure she sung leads and backgrounds on every song...not to mention her name is listed as a writer or producer on every fuckin song.
Not you judging teenage girls who had pretty much no say so in their career and thinking they didn't want to do more in the group
:kii:
To this day all them girls are scared to talk and even utter a bad word about Beyanka....had Kelly and Michelle depressed for years chile

While my sista was on stage killing it like a muh va fuck ah, I was enraged, feeling it like a muh va fuck ah
But, do Tav and Toy COMPARE to Bey? Ask yourself this. Bey had the leads for a reason.
Title: Re: Toya and Tavia’s TWOTW isolated vocals
Post by: RAY7 on June 18, 2026, 08:23:48 AM
Quote from: Andthecategoryis... on June 17, 2026, 08:48:37 PM
Quote from: RAY7 on June 17, 2026, 02:35:33 PMI could see if we were discussing more lead vocals, but as a member of the group why is your voice not at least in the background harmonies of every song? This is part of why groups don't last cuz, if the song only has MY VOICE, how is it DESTINY'S CHIlD, and why are the girls who are lip syncing to my vocals expecting to get paid for it?
Girl bye, Beyonce and her family was gonna make sure she sung leads and backgrounds on every song...not to mention her name is listed as a writer or producer on every fuckin song.
Not you judging teenage girls who had pretty much no say so in their career and thinking they didn't want to do more in the group
:kii:
To this day all them girls are scared to talk and even utter a bad word about Beyanka....had Kelly and Michelle depressed for years chile

While my sista was on stage killing it like a muh va fuck ah, I was enraged, feeling it like a muh va fuck ah
so we can't judge teenage Toya and Tavia for being lazy, and distracted from doing their jobs
But you can in the same sentence blame everything on teenage Beyonce?
Then you wanna make them out to be liars now and say they're "scared" to talk about Bey?
 :omf:  :omf:
The math ain't mathing
Title: Re: Toya and Tavia’s TWOTW isolated vocals
Post by: RAY7 on June 18, 2026, 12:26:04 PM
Michelle's vocals from Survivor
somehow Mathew didn't block her from singing bridges and harmonies all through this album
Title: Re: Toya and Tavia’s TWOTW isolated vocals
Post by: Andthecategoryis... on June 18, 2026, 12:39:30 PM
Quote from: Ulysses on June 18, 2026, 05:02:05 AM
Quote from: Andthecategoryis... on June 17, 2026, 08:48:37 PM
Quote from: RAY7 on June 17, 2026, 02:35:33 PMI could see if we were discussing more lead vocals, but as a member of the group why is your voice not at least in the background harmonies of every song? This is part of why groups don't last cuz, if the song only has MY VOICE, how is it DESTINY'S CHIlD, and why are the girls who are lip syncing to my vocals expecting to get paid for it?
Girl bye, Beyonce and her family was gonna make sure she sung leads and backgrounds on every song...not to mention her name is listed as a writer or producer on every fuckin song.
Not you judging teenage girls who had pretty much no say so in their career and thinking they didn't want to do more in the group
:kii:
To this day all them girls are scared to talk and even utter a bad word about Beyanka....had Kelly and Michelle depressed for years chile

While my sista was on stage killing it like a muh va fuck ah, I was enraged, feeling it like a muh va fuck ah
But, do Tav and Toy COMPARE to Bey? Ask yourself this. Bey had the leads for a reason.
No they don't compare to Bey but why do y'all constantly feel the need to compare them or any other women in general to Beyonce?? Just enjoy and appreciate them for who they are. Beyonce, like Prince, Michael, Stevie and Whitney are once in a lifetime talents. No amount of practice or connections would make them comparable to Beyonce because she was given that gift.
Title: Re: Toya and Tavia’s TWOTW isolated vocals
Post by: Andthecategoryis... on June 18, 2026, 12:49:23 PM
Quote from: RAY7 on June 18, 2026, 08:23:48 AM
Quote from: Andthecategoryis... on June 17, 2026, 08:48:37 PM
Quote from: RAY7 on June 17, 2026, 02:35:33 PMI could see if we were discussing more lead vocals, but as a member of the group why is your voice not at least in the background harmonies of every song? This is part of why groups don't last cuz, if the song only has MY VOICE, how is it DESTINY'S CHIlD, and why are the girls who are lip syncing to my vocals expecting to get paid for it?
Girl bye, Beyonce and her family was gonna make sure she sung leads and backgrounds on every song...not to mention her name is listed as a writer or producer on every fuckin song.
Not you judging teenage girls who had pretty much no say so in their career and thinking they didn't want to do more in the group
:kii:
To this day all them girls are scared to talk and even utter a bad word about Beyanka....had Kelly and Michelle depressed for years chile

While my sista was on stage killing it like a muh va fuck ah, I was enraged, feeling it like a muh va fuck ah
so we can't judge teenage Toya and Tavia for being lazy, and distracted from doing their jobs
But you can in the same sentence blame everything on teenage Beyonce?
Then you wanna make them out to be liars now and say they're "scared" to talk about Bey?
 :omf:  :omf:
The math ain't mathing
Who are you to call them lazy? Were you in the rooms, practices and recordings with them? All the girls had been working since they were children and no I'm not about to blame or judge 15 yr old girls tf. I didn't blame everything on Beyonce? I said she had parents who were gonna make sure she was on everything and credited for everything when we know she don't write everything.
 I can put blame on adult Bey though b/c when has she ever reached out to them or tried to build a relationship? They gotta stalk her down backstage at her tours and never hear from her again
 :kii:
Title: Re: Toya and Tavia’s TWOTW isolated vocals
Post by: Ulysses on June 18, 2026, 01:01:50 PM
Quote from: RAY7 on June 18, 2026, 12:26:04 PM
Michelle's vocals from Survivor
somehow Mathew didn't block her from singing bridges and harmonies all through this album
Because Michelle is a VOCALIST :wub:
Title: Re: Toya and Tavia’s TWOTW isolated vocals
Post by: Kalifornia. on June 18, 2026, 01:06:56 PM
At the time of Survivor Bey was getting DRAGGED. A large part of it was because she was always singing lead and always perched in the middle. So of course they switched it up when the heat got turned up.


QuoteI have to prove myself every day. It's really unfair, because nobody else has to do that. It's not Sisqo's fault when he sings lead. It's not Coko's fault that she sang lead. The haters make me feel bad about singing lead, when that should be something that I'm happy about. Sometimes I wish my father wasn't the manager, so people would just stop attacking me." She continues, "Whenever something goes wrong in the group, it's my fault. Blame

https://prince.org/msg/8/191810

QuoteAnd it ain't easy being Beyoncé. Never have the words "don't hate me because I'm beautiful" applied more. In Minnesota, she walked onstage and was greeted by a sign that read beyonce is a bitch! She recalls another time when a "hater" stood front row center mouthing the words, "You ain't cute, you ain't cute." It's a lot for one person to handle. "There's so much pressure on me," Beyoncé says, her voice cracking slightly. "I have to work double-time, because everybody in the audience is trying to say that the only reason I got something is because of my dad. I've got to be extra tight.

I have to prove myself every day. It's really unfair, because nobody else has to do that. It's not Sisqo's fault when he sings lead. It's not Coko's fault that she sang lead. The haters make me feel bad about singing lead, when that should be something that I'm happy about. Sometimes I wish my father wasn't the manager, so people would just stop attacking me." She continues, "Whenever something goes wrong in the group, it's my fault. Blame

Beyoncé. Somebody left the group, it's Beyoncé's fault. Kelly broke her toes [an injury sustained on the road that almost curtailed the tour], it's Beyoncé's fault."

One wonders what people will make of Beyoncé when she decides to take a break from the group and pursue solo projects. The lead singer denies published reports that she has already signed a three-record solo deal with Columbia for $1.5 million, but does confirm that all the members are negotiating solo deals. "Kelly wants to do an alternative album, and Michelle wants to do a gospel album."

https://prince.org/msg/8/191810

I can't find the actual article online, but those quotes were from this edition of Vibe:

(https://preview.redd.it/destinys-child-photographed-by-vincent-skelitis-for-vibe-v0-xe8n1z8vc1wc1.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=cacbf17071c7f0205daef9506ffe26eb2b9b40b2)
Title: Re: Toya and Tavia’s TWOTW isolated vocals
Post by: Ulysses on June 18, 2026, 01:11:56 PM
Are we still going to pretend that Tav and Toy are equally as talented as Bey? Better yet, equally as talented as MICHELLE even??
Title: Re: Toya and Tavia’s TWOTW isolated vocals
Post by: RAY7 on June 18, 2026, 01:13:46 PM
Quote from: Andthecategoryis... on June 18, 2026, 12:49:23 PM
Quote from: RAY7 on June 18, 2026, 08:23:48 AM
Quote from: Andthecategoryis... on June 17, 2026, 08:48:37 PM
Quote from: RAY7 on June 17, 2026, 02:35:33 PMI could see if we were discussing more lead vocals, but as a member of the group why is your voice not at least in the background harmonies of every song? This is part of why groups don't last cuz, if the song only has MY VOICE, how is it DESTINY'S CHIlD, and why are the girls who are lip syncing to my vocals expecting to get paid for it?
Girl bye, Beyonce and her family was gonna make sure she sung leads and backgrounds on every song...not to mention her name is listed as a writer or producer on every fuckin song.
Not you judging teenage girls who had pretty much no say so in their career and thinking they didn't want to do more in the group
:kii:
To this day all them girls are scared to talk and even utter a bad word about Beyanka....had Kelly and Michelle depressed for years chile

While my sista was on stage killing it like a muh va fuck ah, I was enraged, feeling it like a muh va fuck ah
so we can't judge teenage Toya and Tavia for being lazy, and distracted from doing their jobs
But you can in the same sentence blame everything on teenage Beyonce?
Then you wanna make them out to be liars now and say they're "scared" to talk about Bey?
 :omf:  :omf:
The math ain't mathing
Who are you to call them lazy? Were you in the rooms, practices and recordings with them? All the girls had been working since they were children and no I'm not about to blame or judge 15 yr old girls tf. I didn't blame everything on Beyonce? I said she had parents who were gonna make sure she was on everything and credited for everything when we know she don't write everything.
 I can put blame on adult Bey though b/c when has she ever reached out to them or tried to build a relationship? They gotta stalk her down backstage at her tours and never hear from her again
 :kii:
see, somehow you know what their relationship is currently and how they "stalk" her but I can't know that them girls were too lazy to sing their background vocals?
It's not logical bruh
You're being biased
Title: Re: Toya and Tavia’s TWOTW isolated vocals
Post by: Kalifornia. on June 18, 2026, 01:15:06 PM
Talent is subjective. Bey may be better on stage, but Toya is a better actress.
Title: Re: Toya and Tavia’s TWOTW isolated vocals
Post by: Ulysses on June 18, 2026, 01:22:32 PM
Oh. So Toya being a better actress means she should have had more parts singing on their albums?  :unsure:
Title: Re: Toya and Tavia’s TWOTW isolated vocals
Post by: Andthecategoryis... on June 18, 2026, 01:26:19 PM
Quote from: Kalifornia. on June 18, 2026, 01:15:06 PMTalent is subjective. Bey may be better on stage, but Toya is a better actress.
I'm talking about as an all around artist/entertainer and not you going up for that cheap Tubi acting that Letoya be doing
 :plzstop:
Title: Re: Toya and Tavia’s TWOTW isolated vocals
Post by: Kalifornia. on June 18, 2026, 01:27:07 PM
When did I say that?

Bey is a better singer, but Toya was capable of taking more leads than she got.
Title: Re: Toya and Tavia’s TWOTW isolated vocals
Post by: Ulysses on June 18, 2026, 01:28:44 PM
What movie was Toya in? Was it a Hallmark movie or sumn?
Title: Re: Toya and Tavia’s TWOTW isolated vocals
Post by: Andthecategoryis... on June 18, 2026, 01:30:31 PM
Quote from: Ulysses on June 18, 2026, 01:01:50 PM
Quote from: RAY7 on June 18, 2026, 12:26:04 PM
Michelle's vocals from Survivor
somehow Mathew didn't block her from singing bridges and harmonies all through this album
Because Michelle is a VOCALIST :wub:
With a cringe worthy tone. I love some Michelle but her voice only works on certain songs or when she can control that tone. Also, Michelle barely got parts...we could combine all her DC parts in a 20 min video or less
Title: Re: Toya and Tavia’s TWOTW isolated vocals
Post by: Andthecategoryis... on June 18, 2026, 01:36:30 PM
Quote from: RAY7 on June 18, 2026, 01:13:46 PM
Quote from: Andthecategoryis... on June 18, 2026, 12:49:23 PM
Quote from: RAY7 on June 18, 2026, 08:23:48 AM
Quote from: Andthecategoryis... on June 17, 2026, 08:48:37 PM
Quote from: RAY7 on June 17, 2026, 02:35:33 PMI could see if we were discussing more lead vocals, but as a member of the group why is your voice not at least in the background harmonies of every song? This is part of why groups don't last cuz, if the song only has MY VOICE, how is it DESTINY'S CHIlD, and why are the girls who are lip syncing to my vocals expecting to get paid for it?
Girl bye, Beyonce and her family was gonna make sure she sung leads and backgrounds on every song...not to mention her name is listed as a writer or producer on every fuckin song.
Not you judging teenage girls who had pretty much no say so in their career and thinking they didn't want to do more in the group
:kii:
To this day all them girls are scared to talk and even utter a bad word about Beyanka....had Kelly and Michelle depressed for years chile

While my sista was on stage killing it like a muh va fuck ah, I was enraged, feeling it like a muh va fuck ah
so we can't judge teenage Toya and Tavia for being lazy, and distracted from doing their jobs
But you can in the same sentence blame everything on teenage Beyonce?
Then you wanna make them out to be liars now and say they're "scared" to talk about Bey?
 :omf:  :omf:
The math ain't mathing
Who are you to call them lazy? Were you in the rooms, practices and recordings with them? All the girls had been working since they were children and no I'm not about to blame or judge 15 yr old girls tf. I didn't blame everything on Beyonce? I said she had parents who were gonna make sure she was on everything and credited for everything when we know she don't write everything.
 I can put blame on adult Bey though b/c when has she ever reached out to them or tried to build a relationship? They gotta stalk her down backstage at her tours and never hear from her again
 :kii:
see, somehow you know what their relationship is currently and how they "stalk" her but I can't know that them girls were too lazy to sing their background vocals?
It's not logical bruh
You're being biased
They've been asked in interviews about keeping in touch with Beyonce and they talk around it but the answer is NO. They've all said that Renaissance was the first time they were all in the same room together and b4 that Toya and Tav had to meet her backstage like a fan....she never reached out or apologized for leaving her childhood friends struggling
https://people.com/music/beyonce-reunites-former-destinys-child-latavia-roberson/
Title: Re: Toya and Tavia’s TWOTW isolated vocals
Post by: Gilgamesh. on June 18, 2026, 01:42:19 PM
Quote from: Kalifornia. on June 18, 2026, 01:15:06 PMTalent is subjective. Bey may be better on stage, but Toya is a better actress.

BSHSHSHSHD

Not the acting credits. Eddie please  :kii:
Title: Re: Toya and Tavia’s TWOTW isolated vocals
Post by: ATLien on June 18, 2026, 01:43:56 PM
farrah has a key to her city, plus a certificate

just stating a fact
Title: Re: Toya and Tavia’s TWOTW isolated vocals
Post by: RAY7 on June 18, 2026, 01:44:31 PM
Quote from: Andthecategoryis... on June 18, 2026, 01:30:31 PM
Quote from: Ulysses on June 18, 2026, 01:01:50 PM
Quote from: RAY7 on June 18, 2026, 12:26:04 PM
Michelle's vocals from Survivor
somehow Mathew didn't block her from singing bridges and harmonies all through this album
Because Michelle is a VOCALIST :wub:
With a cringe worthy tone. I love some Michelle but her voice only works on certain songs or when she can control that tone. Also, Michelle barely got parts...we could combine all her DC parts in a 20 min video or less
Michelle had bridges on pretty much every song on Survivor, 8 Days of Xmas and Destiny Fulfilled
Title: Re: Toya and Tavia’s TWOTW isolated vocals
Post by: RAY7 on June 18, 2026, 01:47:38 PM
Quote from: Andthecategoryis... on June 18, 2026, 01:36:30 PM
Quote from: RAY7 on June 18, 2026, 01:13:46 PM
Quote from: Andthecategoryis... on June 18, 2026, 12:49:23 PM
Quote from: RAY7 on June 18, 2026, 08:23:48 AM
Quote from: Andthecategoryis... on June 17, 2026, 08:48:37 PM
Quote from: RAY7 on June 17, 2026, 02:35:33 PMI could see if we were discussing more lead vocals, but as a member of the group why is your voice not at least in the background harmonies of every song? This is part of why groups don't last cuz, if the song only has MY VOICE, how is it DESTINY'S CHIlD, and why are the girls who are lip syncing to my vocals expecting to get paid for it?
Girl bye, Beyonce and her family was gonna make sure she sung leads and backgrounds on every song...not to mention her name is listed as a writer or producer on every fuckin song.
Not you judging teenage girls who had pretty much no say so in their career and thinking they didn't want to do more in the group
:kii:
To this day all them girls are scared to talk and even utter a bad word about Beyanka....had Kelly and Michelle depressed for years chile

While my sista was on stage killing it like a muh va fuck ah, I was enraged, feeling it like a muh va fuck ah
so we can't judge teenage Toya and Tavia for being lazy, and distracted from doing their jobs
But you can in the same sentence blame everything on teenage Beyonce?
Then you wanna make them out to be liars now and say they're "scared" to talk about Bey?
 :omf:  :omf:
The math ain't mathing
Who are you to call them lazy? Were you in the rooms, practices and recordings with them? All the girls had been working since they were children and no I'm not about to blame or judge 15 yr old girls tf. I didn't blame everything on Beyonce? I said she had parents who were gonna make sure she was on everything and credited for everything when we know she don't write everything.
 I can put blame on adult Bey though b/c when has she ever reached out to them or tried to build a relationship? They gotta stalk her down backstage at her tours and never hear from her again
 :kii:
see, somehow you know what their relationship is currently and how they "stalk" her but I can't know that them girls were too lazy to sing their background vocals?
It's not logical bruh
You're being biased
They've been asked in interviews about keeping in touch with Beyonce and they talk around it but the answer is NO. They've all said that Renaissance was the first time they were all in the same room together and b4 that Toya and Tav had to meet her backstage like a fan....she never reached out or apologized for leaving her childhood friends struggling
https://people.com/music/beyonce-reunites-former-destinys-child-latavia-roberson/
you don't know whether or not she reached out and apologized. They all are on good terms and have been for years according to all of their interviews.
And what do you mean backstage like a fan, where else would they be during a concert if they're not singing?
:omg:
Title: Re: Toya and Tavia’s TWOTW isolated vocals
Post by: Kalifornia. on June 18, 2026, 01:50:30 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh. on June 18, 2026, 01:42:19 PM
Quote from: Kalifornia. on June 18, 2026, 01:15:06 PMTalent is subjective. Bey may be better on stage, but Toya is a better actress.

BSHSHSHSHD

Not the acting credits. Eddie please  :kii:

sdbgbgbbbb

(https://media.tenor.com/eKA7hP7Q_tYAAAAd/i-said-what-i-said-nene-leakes.gif)
Title: Re: Toya and Tavia’s TWOTW isolated vocals
Post by: Ulysses on June 18, 2026, 03:02:01 PM
The amount of bad taste around here is always so surprising.
Title: Re: Toya and Tavia’s TWOTW isolated vocals
Post by: Boomz on June 18, 2026, 04:39:57 PM
!!!!

Cause why the hell would they have needed more leads than they got?

DC wasn't En Vogue. Everyone didn't give VOCALS
 :plzstop:
Title: Re: Toya and Tavia’s TWOTW isolated vocals
Post by: klappa. on June 19, 2026, 12:31:25 AM
toy and tav have the girls in here bothered a bit

foundational selves
Title: Re: Toya and Tavia’s TWOTW isolated vocals
Post by: Summertime on June 19, 2026, 01:13:02 AM
Quote from: Kalifornia. on June 17, 2026, 04:20:19 PM
Quote from: ReVonIsMine on June 17, 2026, 03:52:46 PMQuiet as it's kept, a lot of the blame can go on the producers/songwriters too.
A lot of the time, they only want the lead singer's vocals on the song for "cohesiveness" or because of crunch time.
I have been in too many rooms and seen this happen with groups. I disagree with this 100% though.
I love a Danity Kane type group where all members get in the game and play, big or small contributions.

We heard what RL from Next said. he tried to have Kelly lead a song, but Mathew wasn't having it.

https://www.tiktok.com/@dropsofculture/video/7336305971620285702

Dc wasn't a real group so this makes sense. A group formed to launch Beyoncé's career. That is why there was always imbalance & why Matthew snatched up girls tyme from that lady on her death bed.
The way the knowles used to act like that wasn't the intent in the 90s  :plzstop:
When Matthew had Beyoncé out there claiming she wrote emotion :kii: so she can be seen as a multifaceted artist

Title: Re: Toya and Tavia’s TWOTW isolated vocals
Post by: Vonc2002 on June 19, 2026, 02:01:53 AM
Quote from: Kalifornia. on June 17, 2026, 04:20:19 PM
Quote from: ReVonIsMine on June 17, 2026, 03:52:46 PMQuiet as it's kept, a lot of the blame can go on the producers/songwriters too.
A lot of the time, they only want the lead singer's vocals on the song for "cohesiveness" or because of crunch time.
I have been in too many rooms and seen this happen with groups. I disagree with this 100% though.
I love a Danity Kane type group where all members get in the game and play, big or small contributions.

We heard what RL from Next said. he tried to have Kelly lead a song, but Mathew wasn't having it.

https://www.tiktok.com/@dropsofculture/video/7336305971620285702
I completely forgot about this :plzstop:
I mean it doesn't take a blind man to see :omf:
Title: Re: Toya and Tavia’s TWOTW isolated vocals
Post by: Ulysses on June 19, 2026, 06:16:20 AM
It's funny to see the girls cry over Bey still in 2026 when she is legit THE benchmark and fruits wanna talk bout a Toya and Tavia  :dead:
Title: Re: Toya and Tavia’s TWOTW isolated vocals
Post by: RAY7 on June 19, 2026, 08:10:36 AM
Quote from: Summertime on June 19, 2026, 01:13:02 AM
Quote from: Kalifornia. on June 17, 2026, 04:20:19 PM
Quote from: ReVonIsMine on June 17, 2026, 03:52:46 PMQuiet as it's kept, a lot of the blame can go on the producers/songwriters too.
A lot of the time, they only want the lead singer's vocals on the song for "cohesiveness" or because of crunch time.
I have been in too many rooms and seen this happen with groups. I disagree with this 100% though.
I love a Danity Kane type group where all members get in the game and play, big or small contributions.

We heard what RL from Next said. he tried to have Kelly lead a song, but Mathew wasn't having it.

https://www.tiktok.com/@dropsofculture/video/7336305971620285702

Dc wasn't a real group so this makes sense. A group formed to launch Beyoncé's career. That is why there was always imbalance & why Matthew snatched up girls tyme from that lady on her death bed.
The way the knowles used to act like that wasn't the intent in the 90s  :plzstop:
When Matthew had Beyoncé out there claiming she wrote emotion :kii: so she can be seen as a multifaceted artist


DC was definitely a real group
They just had a superstar lead singer IDK why yall act like that's unheard of. The Supremes was a group, Labelle was a group, the Jacksons was a group.
Destiny's Child was a group. It was not formed for Beyonce because her father did not start the group. She was already the lead singer when the original manager passed away and he took over.
Title: Re: Toya and Tavia’s TWOTW isolated vocals
Post by: RAY7 on June 19, 2026, 08:12:58 AM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on June 19, 2026, 02:01:53 AM
Quote from: Kalifornia. on June 17, 2026, 04:20:19 PM
Quote from: ReVonIsMine on June 17, 2026, 03:52:46 PMQuiet as it's kept, a lot of the blame can go on the producers/songwriters too.
A lot of the time, they only want the lead singer's vocals on the song for "cohesiveness" or because of crunch time.
I have been in too many rooms and seen this happen with groups. I disagree with this 100% though.
I love a Danity Kane type group where all members get in the game and play, big or small contributions.

We heard what RL from Next said. he tried to have Kelly lead a song, but Mathew wasn't having it.

https://www.tiktok.com/@dropsofculture/video/7336305971620285702
I completely forgot about this :plzstop:
I mean it doesn't take a blind man to see :omf:
yea. We NEVER heard any vocals from Kelly in Destiny's Child lol
Meanwhile RL is the lead in his group and we don't even know how Tweet's voice sounds
 :omf:  :omf:
Title: Re: Toya and Tavia’s TWOTW isolated vocals
Post by: Gilgamesh. on June 19, 2026, 09:36:24 AM
Not Tweet :kii:
Title: Re: Toya and Tavia’s TWOTW isolated vocals
Post by: RAY7 on June 19, 2026, 10:09:35 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh. on June 19, 2026, 09:36:24 AMNot Tweet :kii:
it would take a real Next FAN to even know I'm not talking about Charlene.
But ppl wanna cry about Destiny's Child