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she deserves it
but who was the weirdo talking about black boys murdering other boys. girl shut the fuck up.
She's terrible and deserves it. Justice for Watermelonadra
Yikes!
Guys, it doesn't stop here....
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i dont agree with the Raven character being "Black af" especially not in the context in which he described her
to me if someone is saying a TV mess is "Black af" I'm thinking Tyler Perry teas. just iconically and unapologetically a Black cookout mess owt, made for Black people to consume almost exclusively.
Not Disney's mostly watered down, "safe for everyone" mess
but then again i didn't watch the show a lot. maybe caught 1 or 2 episodes
and Raven didn't really have to LEAN in with "was she Black tho?"
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i think it was clear the interviewer was simply expressing how it was nice seeing such a big show on Disney being led by a Black girl.
if that was his experience and how he took Raven, let him have it as a Black person.
that could be why she's facing so much backlash. like gorl we loved seeing representation on TV especially when it was so scarce. let the gorls enjoy and remember the show that way.
She's so weird
Raven was definitely black af. What she wasn't was ghetto asf. The way she carried herself, the things she said, the WAY she said them, etc. Was unmistakably black and that's OK. I can't believe I used to really like raven symone, she's such a disappointment as a person
PRECISELY!
https://www.instagram.com/reel/Dcw58pBRTou/
Also are we just supposed to forget shit like this?
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DcLl9z_x9hd/
Raven Simone is DEEP in the sunken place. Fuck her
i really didnt watch the show so those who are super tuned in prob can see the "Black af"-ness ..i was thinking it might have a lot to do with her mannerisms, and those other little -isms that makes Blackness what it is . like u said it doesnt have to be "ghetto".
Joan Clayton was Black af but she wasn't "ghetto".
im just thinking how can anything Disney be "Black af"....but that makes sense if i didn't really watch the show to get IN like the other gorls have
what Raven said makes absolutely no sense if that's the case, and yea it would be weird.
especially with scenes of Raven literally facing racism. there shouldn't be a question if Raven was Black if she was having explicitly/historically Black experiences
IDK what happened in Raven's life and a lot of the child stars have been through some crazy things in the industry
However Raven had been weird about her blackness for a good 10-15 years
I'm thinking it could be because Black are very homophobic and on top that she's with a white girl
I think Raven resents the performance of black femininity that Raven Baxter represented and the blur it caused in her personal life.
Quote from: NEW MOON on September 04, 2026, 01:17:17 AMI think Raven resents the performance of black femininity that Raven Baxter represented and the blur it caused in her personal life.
Bingo.
A lot of us love Raven Baxter but I don't think she does.
Quote from: Kalifornia. on September 03, 2026, 05:04:48 PMShe's so weird
It's like she skipped all the drug/alcohol mess that most child stars fall into and just became a Karen instead.
Her white wife sitting up there co-signing her bullshit is annoying the shit out of me.
Raven will be alright. Social media isn't real. Raven has issues with the character. It's a role that she has spoken less fondly of compared to her other work. Some actors have talked about hating certain characters they played. The public sees "representation" while these actors simply see a role as a job.
Quote from: NEW MOON on September 04, 2026, 01:17:17 AMI think Raven resents the performance of black femininity that Raven Baxter represented and the blur it caused in her personal life.
Yeah something is up with the character and her. She will speak highly of Dr. Doolittle, The Cosby Show, all the rest of her illustrious resume, but I remember she said something about Disney and TSR that gave some shit went down and how she doesn't rock with the character. Raven Baxter def has people applying that to Raven. Look how Cheetah Girls reboot has social media saying they hope she ain't butch in it.
another issue could be that's the one character where she kept her actual first name , which would make it harder for people to differentiate between herself as a person and what was kinda her most popular gig ever.
u can say "That's not Moesha, it's GHan" or "That's not Steve Urkel, it's Jaleel White".
not so much for Raven. if she already feels a personality disconnect from the character that could make her hate it even more
Quote from: Summertime on September 04, 2026, 09:18:12 AMQuote from: NEW MOON on September 04, 2026, 01:17:17 AMI think Raven resents the performance of black femininity that Raven Baxter represented and the blur it caused in her personal life.
Yeah something is up with the character and her. She will speak highly of Dr. Doolittle, The Cosby Show, all the rest of her illustrious resume, but I remember she said something about Disney and TSR that gave some shit went down and how she doesn't rock with the character. Raven Baxter def has people applying that to Raven. Look how Cheetah Girls reboot has social media saying they hope she ain't butch in it.
I think her father and Disney were pressuring her to maintain the image of Raven Baxter in her life outside of the show. Raven has always been a stud and hated Raven Baxters outfits and mannerisms.
I can't wait to read her memoir.
She's deplorable.
Kyla Pratt >
Quote from: ATLien on September 04, 2026, 01:00:57 PManother issue could be that's the one character where she kept her actual first name , which would make it harder for people to differentiate between herself as a person and what was kinda her most popular gig ever.
u can say "That's not Moesha, it's GHan" or "That's not Steve Urkel, it's Jaleel White".
not so much for Raven. if she already feels a personality disconnect from the character that could make her hate it even more
When you inviting me over
Quote from: JCJ on September 05, 2026, 01:41:19 PMQuote from: ATLien on September 04, 2026, 01:00:57 PManother issue could be that's the one character where she kept her actual first name , which would make it harder for people to differentiate between herself as a person and what was kinda her most popular gig ever.
u can say "That's not Moesha, it's GHan" or "That's not Steve Urkel, it's Jaleel White".
not so much for Raven. if she already feels a personality disconnect from the character that could make her hate it even more
When you inviting me over
ack! you've officially moved?
PMing u my #
Quote from: NEW MOON on September 04, 2026, 06:47:46 PMQuote from: Summertime on September 04, 2026, 09:18:12 AMQuote from: NEW MOON on September 04, 2026, 01:17:17 AMI think Raven resents the performance of black femininity that Raven Baxter represented and the blur it caused in her personal life.
Yeah something is up with the character and her. She will speak highly of Dr. Doolittle, The Cosby Show, all the rest of her illustrious resume, but I remember she said something about Disney and TSR that gave some shit went down and how she doesn't rock with the character. Raven Baxter def has people applying that to Raven. Look how Cheetah Girls reboot has social media saying they hope she ain't butch in it.
I think her father and Disney were pressuring her to maintain the image of Raven Baxter in her life outside of the show. Raven has always been a stud and hated Raven Baxters outfits and mannerisms.
I can't wait to read her memoir.
I remember one time she said or described how she didn't like being put into the "role model" box over the show a few years ago.
She often makes it sound like it was debilitating. I will be interested to read that Disney chapter and her thoughts on Bill and as she said what she can tell about her life "without being sued."
Dealing with a bunch of white ppl (Disney is white down including the ppl behind TSR) and facing body and ethnicity discrimination while reaching heights that no other Black American child actor ever reached while also being stifled whew must have been a lot for her.
Kind of on this topic, I got immediately why Halle Bailey imo let it be known at the start of TLM that she isn't perfect and not actually a Disney princess. Before the push for her to be seen as perfect and must keep a perfect image started up. It was smart
did this WARP her a bit
https://x.com/GWANJEZ/status/2095581945094685163