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Title: This Still Breaks My Heart - Bobbi Kristina's Autopsy Report Released.
Post by: Rxxf on March 04, 2016, 08:43:08 AM
http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/6898213/bobbi-kristina-brown-autopsy-drowning-drugs

On what would have been the 23rd birthday of Bobbi Kristina Brown, the late daughter of Whitney Houston and Bobby Brown, the Fulton County Medical Examiner's Office has made public the results of her autopsy.

Bobbi Kristina died from a combination of drowning and drug intoxication, according to the autopsy. The medical examiner's office said alcohol, marijuana and drugs used for sedation/to treat anxiety were involved, according to CBS News. The medical examiner said it wasn't possible to determine whether her death was accidental or intentional.

The previously sealed autopsy results were made public on Friday (March 4) morning after several media outlets filed requests for the documents to be unsealed. Bobbi Kristina Brown died July 26, 2015, after spending several months unresponsive in hospice care.

Bobby Brown criticized the unsealing of the autopsy results in a statement.

Bobbi Kristina Brown Dies at 22

?First and foremost, 23 years ago today, Bobbi Kristina was born. Krissy will always live in my heart and soul. I love my baby girl. For news affiliates to seek and obtain my daughter?s autopsy report, before anyone has been brought to justice for her death is mind blowing to me. Please pray for my family," Brown said in a statement.

"While this action is unsettling, we will continue in our efforts in the civil lawsuit and the criminal investigation," said Christopher Brown, the Brown family's lawyer. "Bobby Brown has had to be strong and mourn his loved ones in a fashion that is foreign to most people. So public, so raw, with apparently no end in sight. Hopefully public indictments and prosecution will lead to private healing and closure for Bobby Brown and his family."

The aforementioned civil lawsuit was filed against Nick Gordon in June 2015, with reps for Bobby Brown alleging that Bobbi Kristina's former boyfriend was emotionally and physically abusive toward her.

[youtube width=1 height=1 autoplay=1 start=1]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jY0sCaVUTk[/youtube]
On a lighter note...
HAPPY BIRTHDAY, Bobbi Kristina!
LOVE.

(http://www.thewrap.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/whitney-houston-bobbi-kristina-brown.jpg)
Title: Re: This Still Breaks My Heart - Bobbi Kristina's Autopsy Report Released.
Post by: mauza on March 04, 2016, 08:54:57 AM
Sad sad sad.
Title: Re: This Still Breaks My Heart - Bobbi Kristina's Autopsy Report Released.
Post by: Annie on March 04, 2016, 09:21:18 AM
I don't know this would be very bizarre if it was accidental
Title: Re: This Still Breaks My Heart - Bobbi Kristina's Autopsy Report Released.
Post by: downtownbrown on March 04, 2016, 09:30:36 AM
Never understand this "HAPPY BIRTHDAY!" stuff when people are dead...
Title: Re: This Still Breaks My Heart - Bobbi Kristina's Autopsy Report Released.
Post by: Barbie Dangerous on March 04, 2016, 09:33:01 AM
So they released autopsy results on the day of her birthday?
:overit:
Title: Re: This Still Breaks My Heart - Bobbi Kristina's Autopsy Report Released.
Post by: Rxxf on March 04, 2016, 09:34:32 AM
Quote from: downtownbrown on March 04, 2016, 09:30:36 AM
Never understand this "HAPPY BIRTHDAY!" stuff when people are dead...

I think it's an opportunity to still remember and celebrate the life they lived.
Title: Re: This Still Breaks My Heart - Bobbi Kristina's Autopsy Report Released.
Post by: Rxxf on March 04, 2016, 09:34:56 AM
Quote from: BowDown on March 04, 2016, 09:33:01 AM
So they released autopsy results on the day of her birthday?
:overit:

that's the media for you...
Title: Re: This Still Breaks My Heart - Bobbi Kristina's Autopsy Report Released.
Post by: ∧ ∨ ∩ ∪ on March 04, 2016, 09:35:35 AM
Why are they still going forward with the law suit against that boy? At the end of the fucking day Bobby needs to take accountability for his daughter's fate.

Mixing alcohol and sedatives is not a good look.
Title: Re: This Still Breaks My Heart - Bobbi Kristina's Autopsy Report Released.
Post by: Kaeli. on March 04, 2016, 09:37:15 AM
Quote from: M?rg??l?l? on March 04, 2016, 09:35:35 AM
Why are they still going forward with the law suit against that boy? At the end of the fucking day Bobby needs to take accountability for his daughter's fate.

Mixing alcohol and sedatives is not a good look.

How's it Bobby's fault :dead:
Title: Re: This Still Breaks My Heart - Bobbi Kristina's Autopsy Report Released.
Post by: Kaeli. on March 04, 2016, 09:37:27 AM
Yeah that boy killed her and Whitney
Title: Re: This Still Breaks My Heart - Bobbi Kristina's Autopsy Report Released.
Post by: Stunna Gor’ on March 04, 2016, 09:37:39 AM
Quote from: BowDown on March 04, 2016, 09:33:01 AM
So they released autopsy results on the day of her birthday?
:overit:
you knw wh..................
Title: Re: This Still Breaks My Heart - Bobbi Kristina's Autopsy Report Released.
Post by: ∧ ∨ ∩ ∪ on March 04, 2016, 09:41:24 AM
Quote from: Kaeli. on March 04, 2016, 09:37:15 AM
Quote from: M?rg??l?l? on March 04, 2016, 09:35:35 AM
Why are they still going forward with the law suit against that boy? At the end of the fucking day Bobby needs to take accountability for his daughter's fate.

Mixing alcohol and sedatives is not a good look.

How's it Bobby's fault :dead:

How is it not? Look who she had as parents. Even after her Mother's death Bobby was an absent parent. Doing drugs and all of that, where could she have possibly learned that from?
Title: Re: This Still Breaks My Heart - Bobbi Kristina's Autopsy Report Released.
Post by: Kaeli. on March 04, 2016, 09:59:53 AM
Quote from: M?rg??l?l? on March 04, 2016, 09:41:24 AM
Quote from: Kaeli. on March 04, 2016, 09:37:15 AM
Quote from: M?rg??l?l? on March 04, 2016, 09:35:35 AM
Why are they still going forward with the law suit against that boy? At the end of the fucking day Bobby needs to take accountability for his daughter's fate.

Mixing alcohol and sedatives is not a good look.

How's it Bobby's fault :dead:

How is it not? Look who she had as parents. Even after her Mother's death Bobby was an absent parent. Doing drugs and all of that, where could she have possibly learned that from?

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I guess you're right. Though I don't think ALL of the blame should be placed on Bobby's retarded ass. She was still an adult that knew right from wrong & you'd think she'd at least try to quit after what happened to her mother.
Title: Re: This Still Breaks My Heart - Bobbi Kristina's Autopsy Report Released.
Post by: KING BENTLEY. on March 04, 2016, 10:02:07 AM
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this music

Ralf this is really touching, I can tell you loved her  :'(
Title: Re: This Still Breaks My Heart - Bobbi Kristina's Autopsy Report Released.
Post by: Rxxf on March 04, 2016, 10:03:03 AM
I don't know if Kristina had the tools and mental power to live on without her mother.
Would have taken years to find her footing. Wish she had the opportunity to do so.
Title: Re: This Still Breaks My Heart - Bobbi Kristina's Autopsy Report Released.
Post by: RAY7 on March 04, 2016, 10:04:19 AM
Quote from: Kaeli. on March 04, 2016, 09:59:53 AM
Quote from: M?rg??l?l? on March 04, 2016, 09:41:24 AM
Quote from: Kaeli. on March 04, 2016, 09:37:15 AM
Quote from: M?rg??l?l? on March 04, 2016, 09:35:35 AM
Why are they still going forward with the law suit against that boy? At the end of the fucking day Bobby needs to take accountability for his daughter's fate.

Mixing alcohol and sedatives is not a good look.

How's it Bobby's fault :dead:

How is it not? Look who she had as parents. Even after her Mother's death Bobby was an absent parent. Doing drugs and all of that, where could she have possibly learned that from?

s

I guess you're right. Though I don't think ALL of the blame should be placed on Bobby's retarded ass. She was still an adult that knew right from wrong & you'd think she'd at least try to quit after what happened to her mother.
exactly
and tbh I dont believe for 1sec Bobbi did this to herself anyway
it was Pat and that Nick boy
Title: Re: This Still Breaks My Heart - Bobbi Kristina's Autopsy Report Released.
Post by: Rxxf on March 04, 2016, 10:05:31 AM
Quote from: BENTLEY! on March 04, 2016, 10:02:07 AM
s

this music

Ralf this is really touching, I can tell you loved her  :'(

it's difficult
i loved whitney
i prayed for bobbi kris

i never thought i'd be seeing the word "late" preceding their names so early in life.
Title: Re: This Still Breaks My Heart - Bobbi Kristina's Autopsy Report Released.
Post by: Ulysses on March 04, 2016, 10:23:18 AM
It was obvious there would be drugs in her system, but I'm actually surprised there wasn't more.
Title: Re: This Still Breaks My Heart - Bobbi Kristina's Autopsy Report Released.
Post by: Stunna Gor’ on March 04, 2016, 10:25:54 AM
Quote from: BENTLEY! on March 04, 2016, 10:02:07 AM
s

this music

dsddsdsdsddssdsdds

Its giving me Ponz
Title: Re: This Still Breaks My Heart - Bobbi Kristina's Autopsy Report Released.
Post by: Glenda on March 04, 2016, 11:32:46 AM
I was so heartbroken when she died.  :stressed: I couldn't understand why. I guess I feel like we grew up together in a way. She was only a year or two younger than me.  :stressed: :stressed:
Title: Re: This Still Breaks My Heart - Bobbi Kristina's Autopsy Report Released.
Post by: RekeRig on March 04, 2016, 01:30:34 PM
We already know she had issues and yes she may have gotten herself killed at some point, but that boy took her life a lot earlier. No doubt in mind :uhh: anyone that takes a life needs to be fucking punished.

No coincidence that they had that huge fight just hours beforehand and blood was found all up n through the carpet n shit. If you saw Nick Gordon on DR. Phil last year, then you'd know that he's fucking nuts
Title: Re: This Still Breaks My Heart - Bobbi Kristina's Autopsy Report Released.
Post by: FAMÈ on March 04, 2016, 01:39:00 PM
So sad. She was just beginning her life.
Title: Re: This Still Breaks My Heart - Bobbi Kristina's Autopsy Report Released.
Post by: Vonc2002 on March 04, 2016, 01:49:34 PM
Quote from: M?rg??l?l? on March 04, 2016, 09:41:24 AM
Quote from: Kaeli. on March 04, 2016, 09:37:15 AM
Quote from: M?rg??l?l? on March 04, 2016, 09:35:35 AM
Why are they still going forward with the law suit against that boy? At the end of the fucking day Bobby needs to take accountability for his daughter's fate.

Mixing alcohol and sedatives is not a good look.

How's it Bobby's fault :dead:

How is it not? Look who she had as parents. Even after her Mother's death Bobby was an absent parent. Doing drugs and all of that, where could she have possibly learned that from?
Sorry but i kinda agree. Am i missing something?  Why are they trying to pass the buck?  This girl grew up with two coked out parents and her mother died basically because of drugs. PLUS Bobbi kris was coked out all the way up until this point. Why are they trying to hold this boy accountable
Title: Re: This Still Breaks My Heart - Bobbi Kristina's Autopsy Report Released.
Post by: GLOCK on March 04, 2016, 02:25:01 PM
Very shocked there wasn't any cocaine or other harsh drugs in her system TBH
Title: Re: This Still Breaks My Heart - Bobbi Kristina's Autopsy Report Released.
Post by: RekeRig on March 04, 2016, 02:26:07 PM
Quote from: DWAYNE on March 04, 2016, 02:25:01 PM
Very shocked there wasn't any cocaine or other harsh drugs in her system TBH
says a LOT tbh

She was on heavy shit at some point and yes, she likely would have inadvertently offed herself, but that boy fucking did it
Title: Re: This Still Breaks My Heart - Bobbi Kristina's Autopsy Report Released.
Post by: Vonc2002 on March 04, 2016, 02:38:30 PM
But really,  why are y'all saying he did it?  I haven't REALLY followed.  I just wrote her off as a crackhead. Where does he come in to be blamed
Title: Re: This Still Breaks My Heart - Bobbi Kristina's Autopsy Report Released.
Post by: ∧ ∨ ∩ ∪ on March 04, 2016, 03:12:36 PM
People will always try to find fault instead of placing the blame at the alleged victim. Bobbi was a troubled soul. She was doomed from the beginning. Her and Nicki might've fought like every couple do but she was a drug addict. She had alcohol and sedatives in her system plus weed then took a bath. It's not that hard to digest that she brought it onto herself, same as her mother. I'm not being insensitive but let's call a thing a fucking thing.
Title: Re: This Still Breaks My Heart - Bobbi Kristina's Autopsy Report Released.
Post by: RAY7 on March 04, 2016, 03:18:48 PM
Why would she do the EXACT thing her mom did though?
that alone is suspicious, then the fact that it happened after a fight and that boy seems disturbed
guess we'll never really know but I really believe he was behind it
AND Pat Houston. She probably paid him
Title: Re: This Still Breaks My Heart - Bobbi Kristina's Autopsy Report Released.
Post by: BAPHOMET. on March 04, 2016, 03:33:52 PM
Pat killed Whit, Bobbi, and Sissy is next.

This is still awful.
Title: Re: This Still Breaks My Heart - Bobbi Kristina's Autopsy Report Released.
Post by: BranLover on March 04, 2016, 04:43:03 PM
It really makes me sad that Whitney's only legacy is her music. I was rooting for Bobbi to push through and prove everyone wrong.  R.I.P. :'(
Title: Re: This Still Breaks My Heart - Bobbi Kristina's Autopsy Report Released.
Post by: Lane Bryant Jumpsuit on March 04, 2016, 07:06:06 PM
This is beyond  crazy someone needs to pay
Title: Re: This Still Breaks My Heart - Bobbi Kristina's Autopsy Report Released.
Post by: Rxxf on March 04, 2016, 10:54:22 PM
Quote from: NexTae on March 04, 2016, 04:43:03 PM
It really makes me sad that Whitney's only legacy is her music. I was rooting for Bobbi to push through and prove everyone wrong.  R.I.P. :'(
Title: Re: This Still Breaks My Heart - Bobbi Kristina's Autopsy Report Released.
Post by: RekeRig on March 05, 2016, 03:01:34 AM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on March 04, 2016, 02:38:30 PM
But really,  why are y'all saying he did it?  I haven't REALLY followed.  I just wrote her off as a crackhead. Where does he come in to be blamed
id have to google the story that he and his friend told the police but nothing added up. The friend said some very interesting things about the fight preceding everything and the cable guy coming in hours later or some mess

I'll search for it, but if you've seen his interview with Dr. Phil from a few months ago ... Omg. One of the most disturbing things ever, and it's no exaggeration. He's SO far gone, there's really no helping him. He can't even put sentences together anymore

I don't know wtf kinda drugs they got on  :uhh:
Title: Re: This Still Breaks My Heart - Bobbi Kristina's Autopsy Report Released.
Post by: RekeRig on March 05, 2016, 03:04:14 AM


Mind you, this shit is only two minutes

There was a full hour of this fucking bizarre ass meltdown and I could NOT. tell me this boy ain't kill that girl
Title: Re: This Still Breaks My Heart - Bobbi Kristina's Autopsy Report Released.
Post by: Vonc2002 on March 05, 2016, 03:16:32 AM
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That didn't look like nothing but the antics of addict to me. How does that translate into him being behind her death
Title: Re: This Still Breaks My Heart - Bobbi Kristina's Autopsy Report Released.
Post by: RekeRig on March 05, 2016, 03:21:36 AM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on March 05, 2016, 03:16:32 AM
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That didn't look like nothing but the antics of addict to me. How does that translate into him being behind her death
like i said, there's more to the story that i'd search for when i get home. Was just trying to show you how off he is and how he's liable to pretty much do anything at the drop of a dime. He threatened his own mothers life  :dead:
Title: Re: This Still Breaks My Heart - Bobbi Kristina's Autopsy Report Released.
Post by: RekeRig on March 05, 2016, 03:32:27 AM
this Article is actually in favor of Nick Gordon, but still a very interesting read (Although long)

There are many more questions than answers, and obviously he isn't in police custody, so  :dead: he either got away with it, or didn't do it.



QuoteThe Brown and Houston families have not always seen eye-to-eye on their mutual tragedy but they share a suspicion that Gordon had something to do with it. He was explicitly barred from attending her funeral in Georgia on Aug. 1 and her burial in New Jersey next to her mother on Aug 3.

Gordon's Florida lawyer, Jose Baez, issued a statement late Friday denouncing the lawsuit as "slanderous and meritless" and a "fictitious assault" against Gordon, but declined to elaborate Tuesday. (Gordon has been living with his mother in Florida.)

"It's shameful that such baseless allegations have been presented publicly," the statement said.

What are the major questions raised by the lawsuit?

What was in this "toxic cocktail"?

Was it an actual cocktail or is that just a metaphor? And how did Gordon allegedly give it to her? Why would she take it willingly, since the lawsuit asserts that the cocktail was preceded by a 30-minute knock-down-drag-out fight between the two in which Gordon allegedly screamed at her that she was a "whore" and a "bitch," and accused her of cheating.

"Then everything abruptly became quiet," the lawsuit says. "Upon information and belief, (Gordon) gave Bobbi Kristina a toxic cocktail rendering her unconscious and then put her face down in a tub of cold water causing her to suffer brain damage."

The hearse containing the casket of Bobbi Kristina
The hearse containing the casket of Bobbi Kristina Brown leaves funeral service at St. James United Methodist Church on August 1, 2015 in Alpharetta, Ga. (Photo: Paras Griffin/ Getty Images)
Halperin says the latter part of this scenario fits with his theory of what happened to Bobbi Kristina, who had been regularly using drugs and alcohol for days, according to his investigation. He believes that when she fell unconscious that day, her companions panicked, dumped in her cold water and slapped her to try and revive her. It's a common strategy among addicts, he says. And the lawsuit says Gordon "began to slap her saying, 'wake up' while performing CPR between slaps."

What is the significance of the dust pan?


The lawsuit says that "interestingly," a dust pan was found in the bottom of the bathtub, but it doesn't explain why this household item would be interesting or what it was doing in a bathtub.

Was Nick Gordon spying on Bobbi Kristina?

The lawsuit says that Gordon returned home at 6 a.m. on Jan. 31 after an "all-night cocaine and drinking binge." He then "reviewed camera footage of Bobbi Kristina and listened to her conversations." What camera footage? Inside the townhouse or outside? How did he listen to her conversations?  Does this footage show anything useful, like what happened to Bobbi Kristina? The lawsuit doesn't say.



Lawsuit start of big trouble for Nick Gordon

Who was the "female guest" in the townhouse that day?

The lawsuit says that the argument between Gordon and Bobbi Kristina started in the kitchen, moved to the living room and then to the master bedroom. After he placed her in the tub, he came out of the bedroom wearing different clothes than when he went in.

"Afterward he got in bed, laid his head on female guests's ankle and stated, 'Now I want a pretty little white girl like you.'"

Halperin believes this female guest might be Danyela Bradley, the girlfriend of Max Lomas, a friend to both Gordon and Bobbi Kristina, who was at the townhouse that day and helped try to revive Bobbi Kristina, according Holloway, his lawyer at the time.



Bobbi Kristina Brown's friend breaks silence

Who actually found Bobbi Kristina?

Fifteen minutes after Gordon came out of the master bedroom, a "person" at the townhouse went inside the bedroom to check on Bobbi Kristina and found her face down in the bathtub. "She was unresponsive, unconscious, her mouth was swollen and another tooth was hanging loosely from her mouth."

Who was this person? The lawsuit doesn't say.

What did Gordon do after she was found?

The lawsuit says the "very first thing (Gordon) did was let the cold water out of the bathtub and later shouted, 'Clean up, clean up,' " while "others" began mouth-to-mouth resuscitation to no avail. Who were these other people? The lawsuit doesn't say.

Halperin predicts Baez, who successfully defended Casey Anthony on a charge of killing her baby, might find this lawsuit against his client helpful.

"I think Baez will have a field day with this," he says. "(The conservator) keeps digging themselves deeper and deeper. Good luck proving this was a lethal cocktail, because she had been drinking and doing drugs in the days and hours leading up to (being found).

"I have extreme skepticism at this point. It seems not plausible."