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Title: Kelly Calls For More Representation For Darkskinned Women
Post by: Freemala Harris on March 23, 2016, 12:19:01 PM
Dark-skinned black women deserve more role models in popular culture, Kelly Rowland told an audience at South by Southwest on Saturday.

(http://i.imgur.com/ZzBRCqU.jpg)

The former member of Destiny?s Child, whose new talent show Chasing Destiny sees her put together a new girl group, said that one of her aims was to include a dark-skinned African American woman in the lineup.

Rowland was responding to a question from a young audience member, who said that her sister had been rejected by a prospective boyfriend who told her: ?You?d be prettier if you were lighter.?



Rowland, who is dark-skinned herself, responded: ?It?s just a trip to me. One of the things I looked for [in the new girl group] first was chocolate girls because I feel it?s so necessary for my niece, my unborn kid, she has to see more chocolate women.? At the moment, Rowland said, the only darker-skinned woman in a group is Normani Hamilton in Fifth Harmony. ?I want to be part of a change in that.?

She added that growing up, she was inspired by darker-skinned women like Whitney Houston and Janet Jackson, and by Michelle Obama today. ?No disrespect for lighter women, but we have to see all colours,? Rowland said.

The equation of whiteness with beauty is pervasive throughout many cultures, including African American ones, giving rise to a multitude of products created to create a lighter appearance. In January, a Thai advert for skin-whitening pills with the slogan ?Whiteness makes you win? caused international outrage, while the Guardian reported last year that, while skin-whitening creams had been banned on the Ivory Coast, women still continued to use them.

In a conversation with Stephen Hill, president of programming at the Black Entertainment Network, which will screen Chasing Destiny, Rowland said that her show filled a need in music for more girl groups. At the moment, she noted, the most popular female acts are solo artists, with only US X Factor winners Fifth Harmony, and Little Mix (winners of the UK equivalent) flying the flag overseas.

?Two girl groups? Get outta here. That is not enough,? said Rowland. ?There?s nothing wrong with selfies and solos but it?s time for another generation to see female camaraderie and people coming together.?

Rowland also said that the current pop scene is lacking in ballads. ?We?re missing ballads on the radio ? we?ve just got Drake singing to us about things we already know ? we know we?re cute! We don?t have slow dances no more.?

The 10-part show will see Rowland construct a girl group; she was at pains to point out that there would not be rounds of eliminations in the traditional manner of talent shows.

When asked whether the band would be allowed to write their own songs, Rowland said she would welcome the prospect: ?It?s so important. It?s so great to see a woman on stage with a guitar, I used to wish I was Sheryl Crow.?

However, she was more traditional in her response about how she would handle the prospect of the band having boyfriends, saying: ?I told them don?t let no dude get in the way of your paper. They sure ain?t going to let a female get in the way of theirs.?

http://saintheron.com/news/kelly-rowland-calls-for-more-representation-of-dark-skinned-black-women/

http://www.theguardian.com/music/2016/mar/20/sxsw-kelly-rowland-destinys-child-dark-skinned-role-models

She raised some great points.
Title: Re: Kelly Calls For More Representation For Darkskinned Women
Post by: CHOKE on March 23, 2016, 12:29:45 PM
Over this topic.

Not when Viola Davis is on one of the highest rated shows on tv

And the lead actress on the Walking Dead is also hugely popular and dark

The only light skinned girls who are really slaying are Bey and Rih



Title: Re: Kelly Calls For More Representation For Darkskinned Women
Post by: King steevy on March 23, 2016, 12:39:03 PM

Rowland also said that the current pop scene is lacking in ballads. ?We?re missing ballads on the radio ? we?ve just got Drake singing to us about things we already know ? we know we?re cute! We don?t have slow dances no more.?


she kinda Read drake here or is just me?
Title: Re: Kelly Calls For More Representation For Darkskinned Women
Post by: Young on March 23, 2016, 12:59:12 PM
I mean what she said was true
Title: Re: Kelly Calls For More Representation For Darkskinned Women
Post by: Myron on March 23, 2016, 01:00:25 PM
Quote from: Chokeme on March 23, 2016, 12:29:45 PM
Over this topic.

Not when Viola Davis is on one of the highest rated shows on tv

And the lead actress on the Walking Dead is also hugely popular and dark

The only light skinned girls who are really slaying are Bey and Rih



THIS...

True t......... I dont think the issue is Visibility of dark skin women..
its being found just as attractive as.

I think the whole dark skin female movement is really about being found just as attractive and wanted just as much as their other counterparts of lighter complexions.
Title: Re: Kelly Calls For More Representation For Darkskinned Women
Post by: AIDS! on March 23, 2016, 01:01:16 PM
She didn't lie
Title: Re: Kelly Calls For More Representation For Darkskinned Women
Post by: BAPHOMET. on March 23, 2016, 01:04:21 PM
Quote from: Chokeme on March 23, 2016, 12:29:45 PM
Over this topic.

Not when Viola Davis is on one of the highest rated shows on tv

And the lead actress on the Walking Dead is also hugely popular and dark

The only light skinned girls who are really slaying are Bey and Rih

!!!

:dead:
Title: Re: Kelly Calls For More Representation For Darkskinned Women
Post by: Marilyn on March 23, 2016, 01:40:29 PM
where is the lie though

Brandy was the LAST darkskinned "it girl"
Title: Re: Kelly Calls For More Representation For Darkskinned Women
Post by: LOONA. on March 23, 2016, 01:43:59 PM
Quote from: Chokeme on March 23, 2016, 12:29:45 PM
Over this topic.

Not when Viola Davis is on one of the highest rated shows on tv

And the lead actress on the Walking Dead is also hugely popular and dark

The only light skinned girls who are really slaying are Bey and Rih

There's always exceptions though (as you listed above)

She's right 
Title: Re: Kelly Calls For More Representation For Darkskinned Women
Post by: Zankou. on March 23, 2016, 01:45:38 PM
Quote from: Baphomet. on March 23, 2016, 01:04:21 PM
Quote from: Chokeme on March 23, 2016, 12:29:45 PM
Over this topic.

Not when Viola Davis is on one of the highest rated shows on tv

And the lead actress on the Walking Dead is also hugely popular and dark

The only light skinned girls who are really slaying are Bey and Rih

!!!

:dead:

/

boy
Title: Re: Kelly Calls For More Representation For Darkskinned Women
Post by: Almost on March 23, 2016, 01:47:45 PM
"darker-skinned women like Whitney Houston and Janet Jackson"

:udontlookok:
Title: Re: Kelly Calls For More Representation For Darkskinned Women
Post by: Kurama on March 23, 2016, 01:51:38 PM
wow, speak
Title: Re: Kelly Calls For More Representation For Darkskinned Women
Post by: RekeRig on March 23, 2016, 02:15:53 PM
Quote from: Drais. on March 23, 2016, 01:43:59 PM
Quote from: Chokeme on March 23, 2016, 12:29:45 PM
Over this topic.

Not when Viola Davis is on one of the highest rated shows on tv

And the lead actress on the Walking Dead is also hugely popular and dark

The only light skinned girls who are really slaying are Bey and Rih

There's always exceptions though (as you listed above)

She's right 

!!!!
are we really gonna be oblivious on purpose up in here
Title: Re: Kelly Calls For More Representation For Darkskinned Women
Post by: GLOCK on March 23, 2016, 02:17:38 PM
Quote from: Almost on March 23, 2016, 01:47:45 PM
"darker-skinned women like Whitney Houston and Janet Jackson"

:udontlookok:
ffff
:udontlookok:
Title: Re: Kelly Calls For More Representation For Darkskinned Women
Post by: Barbie Dangerous on March 23, 2016, 02:28:21 PM
Quote from: Chokeme on March 23, 2016, 12:29:45 PM
Over this topic.

Not when Viola Davis is on one of the highest rated shows on tv

And the lead actress on the Walking Dead is also hugely popular and dark

The only light skinned girl who is really slaying is Bey and Rih
:wellheythere:
Title: Re: Kelly Calls For More Representation For Darkskinned Women
Post by: Stunna Gor’ on March 23, 2016, 03:03:43 PM
Although I agree with her, I don't think that statement is as true today as it was during her time. Darker girls have many respresentations and figures to look up to today than ever before.....

And if you wanna argue musically, who's really there except Bey? :dead: it's an issue for ALL black girls. Not just dark, not just light...
Title: Re: Kelly Calls For More Representation For Darkskinned Women
Post by: SouravMay on March 23, 2016, 03:05:41 PM
All the relevant girls are light, there literally is zero dark skin girls except Lupita.


She has a valid point.
Title: Re: Kelly Calls For More Representation For Darkskinned Women
Post by: BRockaBaby on March 23, 2016, 03:41:12 PM
I think she just wants people to realize dark woman are just as beautiful and therefore deserve just as much shine. I mean it's the truth, pop culture lives for the lighter complexions and use it as a standard for beauty.
Title: Re: Kelly Calls For More Representation For Darkskinned Women
Post by: GYNandTONIC on March 23, 2016, 03:48:58 PM
Im sure she was refering to music  :hmph:

Normani is the only pop dark skin girl..much like Kelly herself, Brandy, Whitney at their times. Light skinned black women in pop are generally fair.
Title: Re: Kelly Calls For More Representation For Darkskinned Women
Post by: GYNandTONIC on March 23, 2016, 03:55:13 PM
And now that I even think about it, those women really arent THAT dark.

In everyday life you see women darker than them all the time! I don't think there has ever been a Lupita dark girl to crossover. Lauren Hill possibly was the darkest mainstream female artist ever.
Title: Re: Kelly Calls For More Representation For Darkskinned Women
Post by: One Of Those Nights. on March 23, 2016, 05:56:46 PM
She's 100% right! I don't understand why people shade Kelly. She's a huge role model for dark skinned woman everywhere!

:wub: :wub: :wub:
Title: Re: Kelly Calls For More Representation For Darkskinned Women
Post by: CHOKE on March 23, 2016, 06:18:22 PM
Who are all these relevant light skinned girls?   :uhh:

off the top of my head I'm only thinking of Beyonc? and Rihanna

And the quicker black people realize whites don't see almond mocha and caramel the better.
Title: Re: Kelly Calls For More Representation For Darkskinned Women
Post by: tigernathan on March 23, 2016, 06:25:05 PM
Quote from: Freeruu on March 23, 2016, 12:19:01 PM
Dark-skinned black women deserve more role models in popular culture, Kelly Rowland told an audience at South by Southwest on Saturday.

(http://i.imgur.com/ZzBRCqU.jpg)

The former member of Destiny?s Child, whose new talent show Chasing Destiny sees her put together a new girl group, said that one of her aims was to include a dark-skinned African American woman in the lineup.

Rowland was responding to a question from a young audience member, who said that her sister had been rejected by a prospective boyfriend who told her: ?You?d be prettier if you were lighter.?



Rowland, who is dark-skinned herself, responded: ?It?s just a trip to me. One of the things I looked for [in the new girl group] first was chocolate girls because I feel it?s so necessary for my niece, my unborn kid, she has to see more chocolate women.? At the moment, Rowland said, the only darker-skinned woman in a group is Normani Hamilton in Fifth Harmony. ?I want to be part of a change in that.?

She added that growing up, she was inspired by darker-skinned women like Whitney Houston and Janet Jackson, and by Michelle Obama today. ?No disrespect for lighter women, but we have to see all colours,? Rowland said.

The equation of whiteness with beauty is pervasive throughout many cultures, including African American ones, giving rise to a multitude of products created to create a lighter appearance. In January, a Thai advert for skin-whitening pills with the slogan ?Whiteness makes you win? caused international outrage, while the Guardian reported last year that, while skin-whitening creams had been banned on the Ivory Coast, women still continued to use them.

In a conversation with Stephen Hill, president of programming at the Black Entertainment Network, which will screen Chasing Destiny, Rowland said that her show filled a need in music for more girl groups. At the moment, she noted, the most popular female acts are solo artists, with only US X Factor winners Fifth Harmony, and Little Mix (winners of the UK equivalent) flying the flag overseas.

?Two girl groups? Get outta here. That is not enough,? said Rowland. ?There?s nothing wrong with selfies and solos but it?s time for another generation to see female camaraderie and people coming together.?

Rowland also said that the current pop scene is lacking in ballads. ?We?re missing ballads on the radio ? we?ve just got Drake singing to us about things we already know ? we know we?re cute! We don?t have slow dances no more.?

The 10-part show will see Rowland construct a girl group; she was at pains to point out that there would not be rounds of eliminations in the traditional manner of talent shows.

When asked whether the band would be allowed to write their own songs, Rowland said she would welcome the prospect: ?It?s so important. It?s so great to see a woman on stage with a guitar, I used to wish I was Sheryl Crow.?

However, she was more traditional in her response about how she would handle the prospect of the band having boyfriends, saying: ?I told them don?t let no dude get in the way of your paper. They sure ain?t going to let a female get in the way of theirs.?

http://saintheron.com/news/kelly-rowland-calls-for-more-representation-of-dark-skinned-black-women/

http://www.theguardian.com/music/2016/mar/20/sxsw-kelly-rowland-destinys-child-dark-skinned-role-models

She raised some great points.

c
Title: Re: Kelly Calls For More Representation For Darkskinned Women
Post by: RekeRig on March 23, 2016, 06:27:11 PM
Quote from: Chokeme on March 23, 2016, 06:18:22 PM
Who are all these relevant light skinned girls?   :uhh:


omg thats not even the POINT bby
Title: Re: Kelly Calls For More Representation For Darkskinned Women
Post by: AIDS! on March 24, 2016, 05:51:49 AM
Quote from: RekeRocka on March 23, 2016, 02:15:53 PM
Quote from: Drais. on March 23, 2016, 01:43:59 PM
Quote from: Chokeme on March 23, 2016, 12:29:45 PM
Over this topic.

Not when Viola Davis is on one of the highest rated shows on tv

And the lead actress on the Walking Dead is also hugely popular and dark

The only light skinned girls who are really slaying are Bey and Rih

There's always exceptions though (as you listed above)

She's right 

!!!!
are we really gonna be oblivious on purpose up in here
ffff ok?
:uhh:
Title: Re: Kelly Calls For More Representation For Darkskinned Women
Post by: Herb. on March 24, 2016, 05:58:16 AM
i love seeing beautiful dark skinned black women :stressed:
lark, GODlli, tatyana, ananda...yall already fucking KNOW :justabit:

even the lead girl in this vidya  :plzstop: :plzstop:
i remember stanning for her when i was younger  :dead: :dead: :plzstop:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udEN8EdJT9k

:stressed: #darkbeauty
Title: Re: Kelly Calls For More Representation For Darkskinned Women
Post by: Checkmate Burruss on March 24, 2016, 09:11:29 AM
For the people who don't agree,
I want you to find 5 of the best photos of 5 dark skinned women/men that you feel are pretty...take a trip overseas (especially Asia (South Korea, Thailand))...and go around and ask ppl if they think those women or men are pretty/handsome. 9 times out of 10 they will say they ugly/not pretty and most of the time the main reason will be because the skin is too dark...some will even suggest bb cream.

Title: Re: Kelly Calls For More Representation For Darkskinned Women
Post by: Herb. on March 24, 2016, 09:21:35 AM
Quote from: Kode Red on March 24, 2016, 09:11:29 AM

I want you to find 5 of the best photos of 5 dark skinned women/men that you feel are pretty...
(http://images.starpulse.com/pictures/2007/02/27/previews/Tatyana%20Ali-SGS-019506.jpg)

(http://40.media.tumblr.com/52f442a991ff4c66c67220c9167677b9/tumblr_n74m7mlfrL1szbfero2_1280.jpg)

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/71/1d/8d/711d8d68c35aef48680ada6b47e5edc7.jpg)

(http://www.greedysnob.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/Ananda.jpg)

(http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_meid1cukUt1rlif9vo1_500.jpg)

now wat else is up
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/ee12b414365740e7ead109ebd6e0c8c4/tumblr_n186px2IQR1ru72puo1_r1_400.gif)
Title: Re: Kelly Calls For More Representation For Darkskinned Women
Post by: FadedEnvy on March 24, 2016, 09:39:59 AM
Kristal/Lyndriette from Richgirl is in her group. I bet Bee is side eyeing the fuck out of her and Frank lol.
Title: Re: Kelly Calls For More Representation For Darkskinned Women
Post by: Checkmate Burruss on March 24, 2016, 10:00:40 AM
Quote from: Herbie on March 24, 2016, 09:21:35 AM
Quote from: Kode Red on March 24, 2016, 09:11:29 AM

I want you to find 5 of the best photos of 5 dark skinned women/men that you feel are pretty...
(http://images.starpulse.com/pictures/2007/02/27/previews/Tatyana%20Ali-SGS-019506.jpg)

(http://40.media.tumblr.com/52f442a991ff4c66c67220c9167677b9/tumblr_n74m7mlfrL1szbfero2_1280.jpg)

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/71/1d/8d/711d8d68c35aef48680ada6b47e5edc7.jpg)

(http://www.greedysnob.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/Ananda.jpg)

(http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_meid1cukUt1rlif9vo1_500.jpg)

now wat else is up
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/ee12b414365740e7ead109ebd6e0c8c4/tumblr_n186px2IQR1ru72puo1_r1_400.gif)

umm. my comment was for the people who were "over" the topic or feel like Kelly is wrong. My post was to support that darker skin is looked down upon not just in the US but all over the world. It is an issue.