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Title: Slavery still exists. In Africa?
Post by: Ashley Bank$ on May 01, 2016, 05:14:38 AM
I was researching Africa (again) sss this morning @ https://tracingafricanroots.wordpress.com/ancestrydna/haitian-results/

When I came across information that slavery still exists in a country in Africa. Then I researched it a bit more...

ttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_Mauritania

Kinda unnerving to know that a country in Africa was the last country to abolish slavery in the world. I think it's one of those things we don't like to talk about that much, the preexisting slave trade that was already in place in Africa well before we were removed and brought to islands and the states.

Honestly with the narratives in our community, you would assume we  were living happily ever after, all united, all equal, until someone came and ruined our mess.  :plzstop: Kidnapped us! :cheerup:

My lil sis was damn near ringing my neck because I didn't understand what she was getting at when she brought this up during a discussion we had a couple months back. Of course I was being stubborn and lashing the white man. But the more I read about this stuff the more I see her point.
Title: Re: Slavery still exists. In Africa?
Post by: AIDS! on May 01, 2016, 06:54:18 AM
Quote from: Herbie's Podcast on May 01, 2016, 05:14:38 AM


Honestly with the narratives in our community, you would assume we  were living happily ever after, all united, all equal, until someone came and ruined our mess.  :plzstop: Kidnapped us! :cheerup:


Thats what happened sis
Slavery did exist before the Arab slave trade and the Atlantic slave trade but it wasn't chattel slavery, it was similar to indentured servitude where they werent seen as property, enslaved for life,
these kind of slaves had were given rights.
For example if two rival cities went into battle, the prisoners of
of war would become slaves, debt slaves, enslaved war prisoners and enslaven criminals were all different kinds of enslavement, but different from the slave trade
Title: Re: Slavery still exists. In Africa?
Post by: SouravMay on May 01, 2016, 06:59:53 AM
Afro gorl did you even read on the history of slavery in Mauritania?! This is fckn upsetting. You are not thorough and accurate at all. The people that had slaves there were white as well. They enslaved dark skin Africans in Mauretania. Mauretania has lots of racially white Arabs. And they are the ones who had the slaves.

Either way it does not fall back on black Africans. This gets annoying.
Title: Re: Slavery still exists. In Africa?
Post by: SouravMay on May 01, 2016, 07:01:52 AM
And there is difference between tossing your neighbor's wig because they lost a war battle or traveling the world and collecting people of a different shade and treat them as objects merely based on their appearance.

Title: Re: Slavery still exists. In Africa?
Post by: D.I.E.G.O. on May 01, 2016, 07:48:39 AM
It still exists in America too  :letsmessfag:
Title: Re: Slavery still exists. In Africa?
Post by: Gilgamesh. on May 01, 2016, 07:58:41 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yQlOPD8mNo

omg!
Title: Re: Slavery still exists. In Africa?
Post by: SouravMay on May 01, 2016, 08:04:31 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh. on May 01, 2016, 07:58:41 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yQlOPD8mNo

omg!

omg the woman that was raped and her master's bbys
:stressed: :stressed: :stressed: :stressed:
Title: Re: Slavery still exists. In Africa?
Post by: SouravMay on May 01, 2016, 08:17:13 AM
Quote from: Herbie's Podcast on May 01, 2016, 08:07:40 AM
Quote from: Rajesha on May 01, 2016, 06:59:53 AM
Afro gorl did you even read on the history of slavery in Mauritania?! This is fckn upsetting. You are not thorough and accurate at all. The people that had slaves there were white as well. They enslaved dark skin Africans in Mauretania. Mauretania has lots of racially white Arabs. And they are the ones who had the slaves.

Either way it does not fall back on black Africans. This gets annoying.
That's why I put a question mark into my topic title Malc. I haven't completed reading on it yet.
calm down ssss  :uhh:

But fact is that the slave trade in Africa before it continued across the Atlantic.

Then read your links and sources next time you post something to back your insinuations. THIS example clearly further shows white people were the oppressors and slave masters.
Title: Re: Slavery still exists. In Africa?
Post by: SouravMay on May 01, 2016, 08:18:26 AM
Quote from: Herbie's Podcast on May 01, 2016, 08:09:40 AM
And you said white "as well". Well, there are slavemasters around the world who were white "as well". We're not discussing them sss
I am saying just as much as the slavemasters in the U.S. are white, the slavemasters in Mauretania today are white.
Title: Re: Slavery still exists. In Africa?
Post by: SouravMay on May 01, 2016, 08:25:04 AM
Quote from: Rajesha on May 01, 2016, 08:04:31 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh. on May 01, 2016, 07:58:41 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yQlOPD8mNo

omg!

omg the woman that was raped and her master's bbys
:stressed: :stressed: :stressed: :stressed:

White people are the fucking devil. When the slave master reunited with the dark skinned slave.

:stressed: :stressed: :stressed: :stressed: :stressed: :stressed: :stressed:
Title: Re: Slavery still exists. In Africa?
Post by: Gilgamesh. on May 01, 2016, 08:31:50 AM
Disgusting. I had to turn it off halfway through.
Title: Re: Slavery still exists. In Africa?
Post by: SouravMay on May 01, 2016, 08:32:11 AM
This documentary makes me fume so much.
Title: Re: Slavery still exists. In Africa?
Post by: SouravMay on May 01, 2016, 08:34:34 AM
This makes me feel disgusted at my own Arab roots. This is just so fucking evil and disgusting. The struggle of a dark skin person in this world. When the woman talked about being able to wake up when she wants to finally.

It is so disgusting.
Title: Re: Slavery still exists. In Africa?
Post by: AIDS! on May 01, 2016, 08:35:08 AM
That documentary fucked up my Sunday morning
Really depressing
It's also goes to our black psyche, what are all these messages, headlines, I images, stories ect doing to our mental state as black individuals and as a collective
We need to be reconditioning and to be soothed  mentally as much as we need education
Title: Re: Slavery still exists. In Africa?
Post by: SouravMay on May 01, 2016, 08:38:58 AM
I am just SICK of none of these governments and people being held accountable for.
Always presenting negative facts about GODfrica, without the fckn context of WHITE demonic behavior that caused it...

:bvy: :bvy: :bvy:
Title: Re: Slavery still exists. In Africa?
Post by: D.I.E.G.O. on May 01, 2016, 09:22:43 AM
Quote from: Rajesha on May 01, 2016, 08:32:11 AM
This documentary makes me fume so much.

!!!! It makes me livid. And it's sad to think that similar things are happening so many places. I feel like some of us live in such bubbles when it comes to stuff like this. Ugh. Sad
Title: Re: Slavery still exists. In Africa?
Post by: merkaba on May 01, 2016, 10:10:58 AM
Not you repping Haiti now

You're crazy wtf
Title: Re: Slavery still exists. In Africa?
Post by: Zankou. on May 01, 2016, 10:13:31 AM
Quote from: Marie Laveau on May 01, 2016, 10:10:58 AM
Not you repping Haiti now

You're crazy wtf

U know what
Title: Re: Slavery still exists. In Africa?
Post by: SouravMay on May 01, 2016, 10:15:21 AM
Quote from: Marie Laveau on May 01, 2016, 10:10:58 AM
Not you repping Haiti now

You're crazy wtf

arent u talisa?

:plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:
Title: Re: Slavery still exists. In Africa?
Post by: AIDS! on May 01, 2016, 10:18:02 AM
That's iman
Title: Re: Slavery still exists. In Africa?
Post by: merkaba on May 01, 2016, 10:20:24 AM
Read up! Research!

You're seriously a lost person. The way you jump from country to country. And no ones going to apologize to you ugly. You're dead to me, big nose.
Title: Re: Slavery still exists. In Africa?
Post by: merkaba on May 01, 2016, 10:25:15 AM
n

I never wanted to reconcile with you. And what's tired is you and your identity crisis. Done with ancestry! Not quite. Now here you are repping Haiti. Real Haitians would laugh at your ass tbh.
Title: Re: Slavery still exists. In Africa?
Post by: AIDS! on May 01, 2016, 10:26:42 AM
Quote from: Herbie's Podcast on May 01, 2016, 08:17:58 AM
Quote from: GOLD on May 01, 2016, 06:54:18 AM
Quote from: Herbie's Podcast on May 01, 2016, 05:14:38 AM


Honestly with the narratives in our community, you would assume we  were living happily ever after, all united, all equal, until someone came and ruined our mess.  :plzstop: Kidnapped us! :cheerup:


Thats what happened sis
Slavery did exist before the Arab slave trade and the Atlantic slave trade but it wasn't chattel slavery, it was similar to indentured servitude where they werent seen as property, enslaved for life,
these kind of slaves had were given rights.
For example if two rival cities went into battle, the prisoners of
of war would become slaves, debt slaves, enslaved war prisoners and enslaven criminals were all different kinds of enslavement, but different from the slave trade
I see, so it was a switcharoo type of mess.

QuoteSlavery existed in Africa, but it was not the same type of slavery that the Europeans introduced. The European form was called chattel slavery. A chattel slave is a piece of property, with no rights. Slavery within Africa was different. A slave might be enslaved in order to pay off a debt or pay for a crime. Slaves in Africa lost the protection of their family and their place in society through enslavement. But eventually they or their children might become part of their master?s family and become free. This was unlike chattel slavery, in which enslaved Africans were slaves for life, as were their children and grandchildren.

http://discoveringbristol.org.uk/slavery/people-involved/enslaved-people/enslaved-africans/africa-slavery/
Yh servitude/slavery always existed, but the Europeans monopolised the game and turned it into empire, crippling Africa

This is one of my fav quotes
Kinda sums all my thoughts into one
Quote"the morally monstrous destruction of human possibility involved redefining African humanity to the world, poisoning past, present and future relations with others who only know us through this stereotyping and thus damaging the truly human relations among people of today". He cites that it constituted the destruction of culture, language, religion and human possibility.
Title: Re: Slavery still exists. In Africa?
Post by: garlic on May 01, 2016, 10:27:06 AM
nnnn slavery still exists... more so "sex slavery" but yeah... its just not easily found.
Title: Re: Slavery still exists. In Africa?
Post by: SouravMay on May 01, 2016, 10:32:29 AM
 :melmel:
Title: Re: Slavery still exists. In Africa?
Post by: SUPREME on May 01, 2016, 10:35:38 AM
This thread

:dead:
Title: Re: Slavery still exists. In Africa?
Post by: SouravMay on May 01, 2016, 10:36:28 AM
I am ready to fckn podcast. Lemme pm you my info afro
Title: Re: Slavery still exists. In Africa?
Post by: SouravMay on May 01, 2016, 10:38:35 AM
sent!
Title: Re: Slavery still exists. In Africa?
Post by: Real on May 01, 2016, 10:48:43 AM
I'm kneeling near the cross
Title: Re: Slavery still exists. In Africa?
Post by: hotep. on May 01, 2016, 11:23:25 AM
I must have missed a lot in the few years I was MiA because Afro used to be the biggest white apologist back in the day. Glad you've seen the light but have that research together sir
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Post by: Belissimo on May 01, 2016, 11:24:01 AM
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Title: Re: Slavery still exists. In Africa?
Post by: Sinpool on May 01, 2016, 12:09:51 PM
Slavery existed all over the world before the trans Atlantic slave trade. It's just that the Trans Atlantic slave trade was the first time people were enslaved based on "race"

Plus slavery also still exists all over the world today including in the US.
Title: Re: Slavery still exists. In Africa?
Post by: SouravMay on May 01, 2016, 12:10:57 PM
 :hmph: :hmph: :hmph:

am waiting