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Title: Michelle Obama is not our first black First Lady! ANCESTORY GORLS come in
Post by: GLOCK on May 27, 2016, 10:58:12 AM
 Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis was.
(http://www.thefamouspeople.com/profiles/images/jackie-kennedy-22.jpg)



QuoteJackie O, perhaps America?s most emulated and admired First Lady, descended from a family known as the van Salee?s, who were described as ?mulatto? in the 17th century. This family traced its lineage in part to a Dutch mariner named Jan Jensen, who turned Turk (what some Europeans called ?going native?), which was more popular than common history reveals.
It is widely believed Jensen fathered two children, Anthony and Abraham van Salee, by a Moorish concubine. Following a dispute with his white wife, Anthony van Salee was exiled to territory across the river, where he became Brooklyn?s first settler. Until a few decades ago, this property adjoining Coney Island was called Turk?s Island after Anthony van Salle ? the term ?Turk,? in his day being synonymous with Moor (North African). A descendant, John van Salee De Grasse, born in 1825, was the first black American formally educated as a doctor. When Jackie Kennedy was asked about her van Salee roots during the height of the Civil Rights Movement, she called her ancestors ?Jewish.? Of course, her socialite father, born in 1891, was nicknamed ?Black Jack? Bouvier for his swarthy complexion. In the 1960s, journalists described the First Lady?s features as ?French,? earning her the cover page of countless magazines, including film and fan publications. Not only Kennedy Onassis, but well-borns Humphrey Bogart and Gloria Vanderbilt (and thus Anderson Cooper), are van Salee descendants.

Read more at http://www.prosebeforehos.com/article-of-the-day/02/08/black-history-facts/#boTeojCrEfQtUjcY.99

:rudone:


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look what happened here

QuoteEither Professor Hershkowitz, or Tim Beard, former head of the Genealogical Department of the New York Public Library related this incident regarding van Salee genealogy. At the time the Kennedy administration began implementing its civil rights agenda, the New York Genealogical and Historical Society approached Mrs. Kennedy hoping to discuss the opportunity her African ancestry, through the Van Salees, could have in possibly assisting her husband to realize his social goals regarding race relations. Mrs. Kennedy insisted on referring to the van Salees as 'Jewish,' and the New York Genealogical Society did not push the subject further.

America's Van Salees Humphry Bogart and Ruth Gordon in a scene from the 1927 film "Saturday's Children." He is a Van Salee descendent and she is a Pendarvis descendent. A few years later, another descendant attempted to pass off the racial description of the van Salles in the official records as nothing more than malicious humor.

look at her dad
"black jack"  :raycharles2urmess:
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/8d/Black_Jack_Bouvier.jpg)
(http://40.media.tumblr.com/7962c8638bdc74709dec3f992b3d13fb/tumblr_nvezfjAEJa1uyzzzdo2_400.jpg)
Title: Re: Michelle Obama is not our first black First Lady! ANCESTORY GORLS come in
Post by: Glenda on May 27, 2016, 12:28:11 PM
I've been known this.  :dead: :plzstop:
Title: Re: Michelle Obama is not our first black First Lady! ANCESTORY GORLS come in
Post by: GLOCK on May 27, 2016, 12:29:25 PM
Quote from: Glenda on May 27, 2016, 12:28:11 PM
I've been known this.  :dead: :plzstop:
i didn't  :dead:
Title: Re: Michelle Obama is not our first black First Lady! ANCESTORY GORLS come in
Post by: Glenda on May 27, 2016, 12:30:29 PM
Quote from: GLOCK for MOD 2016 on May 27, 2016, 12:29:25 PM
Quote from: Glenda on May 27, 2016, 12:28:11 PM
I've been known this.  :dead: :plzstop:
i didn't  :dead:

She still looks white, though, so I never gave her a pass.  :ohwow: :ohwow: :howfestive:
Title: Re: Michelle Obama is not our first black First Lady! ANCESTORY GORLS come in
Post by: Glenda on May 27, 2016, 12:34:44 PM
Quote from: haitian creole. on May 27, 2016, 12:32:57 PM
Abraham Lincoln was also rumored to be of African descent.

But I mean in Amer' we all know it's about what's on the surface that determines your perceived race.
And we know none of these people would've ever admitted to having this ancestry. So no they're not one of us.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

cute lil tidbit of info tho  :justabit:

Was President Kennedy down w/ the swirl a bit, u think?  :hmph: :tistheseas:

:nogrammynoneck:
Title: Re: Michelle Obama is not our first black First Lady! ANCESTORY GORLS come in
Post by: GLOCK on May 27, 2016, 12:36:00 PM
Quote from: Glenda on May 27, 2016, 12:30:29 PM
Quote from: GLOCK for MOD 2016 on May 27, 2016, 12:29:25 PM
Quote from: Glenda on May 27, 2016, 12:28:11 PM
I've been known this.  :dead: :plzstop:
i didn't  :dead:

She still looks white, though, so I never gave her a pass.  :ohwow: :ohwow: :howfestive:
she gives a mulatto mess owt  :ohwow:
(http://www.mothermag.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/JO17.jpg)
Title: Re: Michelle Obama is not our first black First Lady! ANCESTORY GORLS come in
Post by: GLOCK on May 27, 2016, 12:36:38 PM
Quote from: haitian creole. on May 27, 2016, 12:32:57 PM
Abraham Lincoln was also rumored to be of African descent.

But I mean in Amer' we all know it's about what's on the surface that determines your perceived race.
And we know none of these people would've ever admitted to having this ancestry. So no they're not one of us.
They don't deserve the title of being "first". Obama proudly proclaims he's Black. Not correcting anyone saying "I'm biracial." Even though he very well could. So he's our first Black mess owt, and GODchelle is as well
yeah

u saw what she told the researchers?

fffff to put jewish down :plzstop: mess
Title: Re: Michelle Obama is not our first black First Lady! ANCESTORY GORLS come in
Post by: Glenda on May 27, 2016, 12:37:33 PM
Quote from: GLOCK for MOD 2016 on May 27, 2016, 12:36:00 PM
Quote from: Glenda on May 27, 2016, 12:30:29 PM
Quote from: GLOCK for MOD 2016 on May 27, 2016, 12:29:25 PM
Quote from: Glenda on May 27, 2016, 12:28:11 PM
I've been known this.  :dead: :plzstop:
i didn't  :dead:

She still looks white, though, so I never gave her a pass.  :ohwow: :ohwow: :howfestive:
she gives a mulatto mess owt  :ohwow:
(http://www.mothermag.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/JO17.jpg)

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Title: Re: Michelle Obama is not our first black First Lady! ANCESTORY GORLS come in
Post by: Lazarus on May 27, 2016, 12:39:08 PM
v

She never looked bi-racial to me
Title: Re: Michelle Obama is not our first black First Lady! ANCESTORY GORLS come in
Post by: GLOCK on May 27, 2016, 12:39:42 PM
bnvmnbnnbnm
Title: Re: Michelle Obama is not our first black First Lady! ANCESTORY GORLS come in
Post by: GLOCK on May 27, 2016, 01:07:13 PM
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She wasn't biracial :uhh:
She has African American descendants
Title: Re: Michelle Obama is not our first black First Lady! ANCESTORY GORLS come in
Post by: GLOCK on May 27, 2016, 01:09:18 PM
Look I don't want to argue but there's something other than white there Fff and it's been proven that she has African American descendants but MESS
Title: Re: Michelle Obama is not our first black First Lady! ANCESTORY GORLS come in
Post by: yummy on May 27, 2016, 01:09:52 PM
Not to disregard Jackie's lineage, but I think it's far more powerful for some to see a brown-skinned black woman and her daughters of the same complexion in the oval office
Title: Re: Michelle Obama is not our first black First Lady! ANCESTORY GORLS come in
Post by: GLOCK on May 27, 2016, 01:10:10 PM
V

And u posted biracial girls :rudone:
Title: Re: Michelle Obama is not our first black First Lady! ANCESTORY GORLS come in
Post by: GLOCK on May 27, 2016, 01:10:42 PM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on May 27, 2016, 01:09:52 PM
Not to disregard Jackie's lineage, but I think it's far more powerful for some to see a brown-skinned black woman and her daughters of the same complexion in the oval office
I agree
I just thought this was cool. That's it :dead:
Title: Re: Michelle Obama is not our first black First Lady! ANCESTORY GORLS come in
Post by: yummy on May 27, 2016, 01:11:35 PM
Quote from: haitian creole. on May 27, 2016, 01:08:33 PM
But you said she looks Mulatto. Which is a biracial person hun.
I was just providing examples of what a Mulatto usually would give.
She's nowhere near clockable.

There are plenty of mulattoes who could easily pass for white tho fff
Title: Re: Michelle Obama is not our first black First Lady! ANCESTORY GORLS come in
Post by: Glenda on May 27, 2016, 01:12:04 PM
No, I see what Glock is saying. You can definitely tell that Jackie has SOME mess in her. But, like I said, she looks almost completely white so she could pass as a white person, which means I ain't givin' ha a pass.

She can come to the family reunion and stuff but she better not even utter the WORD "n*gga"  :ohwow: :ohwow: :ohwow: :ohwow: :plea: :heyddy:
Title: Re: Michelle Obama is not our first black First Lady! ANCESTORY GORLS come in
Post by: GLOCK on May 27, 2016, 01:13:01 PM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on May 27, 2016, 01:11:35 PM
Quote from: haitian creole. on May 27, 2016, 01:08:33 PM
But you said she looks Mulatto. Which is a biracial person hun.
I was just providing examples of what a Mulatto usually would give.
She's nowhere near clockable.

There are plenty of mulattoes who could easily pass for white tho fff
yeah  :plzstop:
Title: Re: Michelle Obama is not our first black First Lady! ANCESTORY GORLS come in
Post by: GLOCK on May 27, 2016, 01:13:57 PM
Her ancestors are Def in the original post

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Title: Re: Michelle Obama is not our first black First Lady! ANCESTORY GORLS come in
Post by: Kaeli. on May 27, 2016, 01:17:22 PM
She looks like Teresa from RHONJ
Title: Re: Michelle Obama is not our first black First Lady! ANCESTORY GORLS come in
Post by: GLOCK on May 27, 2016, 01:19:17 PM
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Is it any different than you calling ur self Melungeon?
Title: Re: Michelle Obama is not our first black First Lady! ANCESTORY GORLS come in
Post by: GLOCK on May 27, 2016, 01:20:02 PM
Or claiming Haitian?
Title: Re: Michelle Obama is not our first black First Lady! ANCESTORY GORLS come in
Post by: GLOCK on May 27, 2016, 01:20:22 PM
I wanna know. Please make it brief because I don't plan on debating this any further
Title: Re: Michelle Obama is not our first black First Lady! ANCESTORY GORLS come in
Post by: yummy on May 27, 2016, 01:21:05 PM
oh shit
Title: Re: Michelle Obama is not our first black First Lady! ANCESTORY GORLS come in
Post by: Zankou. on May 27, 2016, 01:35:11 PM
Quote from: GLOCK for MOD 2016 on May 27, 2016, 01:20:22 PM
I wanna know. Please make it brief because I don't plan on debating this any further

:omgwatshappening:
Title: Re: Michelle Obama is not our first black First Lady! ANCESTORY GORLS come in
Post by: AIDS! on May 27, 2016, 01:40:05 PM
Tell you what's i's gonna dew DEW des do DO!
Title: Re: Michelle Obama is not our first black First Lady! ANCESTORY GORLS come in
Post by: Zankou. on May 27, 2016, 01:46:38 PM
wtf
Title: Re: Michelle Obama is not our first black First Lady! ANCESTORY GORLS come in
Post by: Lazarus on May 27, 2016, 01:47:43 PM
Quote from: Nice Stereo. on May 27, 2016, 01:46:38 PM
wtf

A holiday approaching lol
Title: Re: Michelle Obama is not our first black First Lady! ANCESTORY GORLS come in
Post by: yummy on May 27, 2016, 01:47:46 PM
 :rudone:
Title: Re: Michelle Obama is not our first black First Lady! ANCESTORY GORLS come in
Post by: GLOCK on May 27, 2016, 01:48:40 PM
Quote from: haitian creole. on May 27, 2016, 01:44:02 PM
So yeah, keep writing about your fake relationships and worry less about what I can actually provide a receipt for.

Now we're done. Sorry to go there but you took it there. Good day
damn I got u bothered!
Ur insecurities arouse me!  :dead:
Title: Re: Michelle Obama is not our first black First Lady! ANCESTORY GORLS come in
Post by: LOONA. on May 27, 2016, 01:51:56 PM
Quote from: Zinc on May 27, 2016, 01:47:43 PM
Quote from: Nice Stereo. on May 27, 2016, 01:46:38 PM
wtf

A holiday approaching lol

Yeah

Memorial Day is Mon

Looks like the mess is coming a tad bit early though.  :dead:   
Title: Re: Michelle Obama is not our first black First Lady! ANCESTORY GORLS come in
Post by: yummy on May 27, 2016, 01:58:33 PM
(http://65.media.tumblr.com/a449914ad4783226fb2e976abc83e309/tumblr_o5xupnPcHF1th6v5so2_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Michelle Obama is not our first black First Lady! ANCESTORY GORLS come in
Post by: LOONA. on May 27, 2016, 02:00:41 PM
this is for my ladies
who b riding in mercedes
yea
Title: Re: Michelle Obama is not our first black First Lady! ANCESTORY GORLS come in
Post by: Kaeli. on May 27, 2016, 02:04:10 PM
My Great Great Great Grandma's 2nd cousin is Colombian, I heard.
Title: Re: Michelle Obama is not our first black First Lady! ANCESTORY GORLS come in
Post by: yummy on May 27, 2016, 02:06:15 PM
[youtube autoplay=1]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKlThqpmsDk[/youtube]
Title: Re: Michelle Obama is not our first black First Lady! ANCESTORY GORLS come in
Post by: Young on May 27, 2016, 02:09:50 PM
Michelle>>>

She's BLACK lolz

Not this mixed up 1/8th mess

That's cute tho
Title: Re: Michelle Obama is not our first black First Lady! ANCESTORY GORLS come in
Post by: LOONA. on May 27, 2016, 02:10:30 PM
Ima dumas
So lets do this
Southside bama faggot
Ya knew this   
Title: Re: Michelle Obama is not our first black First Lady! ANCESTORY GORLS come in
Post by: GLOCK on May 27, 2016, 02:16:16 PM
I don't know why ur fumed up over there :dead:
What would u like.. A picture of me and my boyfriend holding our Ancestry DNA results?
Title: Re: Michelle Obama is not our first black First Lady! ANCESTORY GORLS come in
Post by: GLOCK on May 27, 2016, 02:34:55 PM
Ok.
Title: Re: Michelle Obama is not our first black First Lady! ANCESTORY GORLS come in
Post by: Rxxf on May 27, 2016, 02:38:26 PM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on May 27, 2016, 01:09:52 PM
Not to disregard Jackie's lineage, but I think it's far more powerful for some to see a brown-skinned black woman and her daughters of the same complexion in the oval office
Title: Re: Michelle Obama is not our first black First Lady! ANCESTORY GORLS come in
Post by: Rxxf on May 27, 2016, 02:43:46 PM
Quote from: haitian creole. on May 27, 2016, 02:41:12 PM
Quote from: ? on May 27, 2016, 02:38:26 PM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on May 27, 2016, 01:09:52 PM
Not to disregard Jackie's lineage, but I think it's far more powerful for some to see a brown-skinned black woman and her daughters of the same complexion in the oval office
I agree.

But if Jackie provided receipts that she even had one drop of Black blood in her in the 60's, she would've definitely been the first "Black" 1st Lady. The Blacks would have cheered her on for claiming it and the whites woulda been like :udontlookok: get this nigger out of the House and back onto that field.

:plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:

omg
:dead:
Title: Re: Michelle Obama is not our first black First Lady! ANCESTORY GORLS come in
Post by: Rxxf on May 27, 2016, 02:44:05 PM
Look, Michelle Obama is MY first Black Lady.
End of.
:ohwow:
Title: Re: Michelle Obama is not our first black First Lady! ANCESTORY GORLS come in
Post by: Rxxf on May 27, 2016, 02:47:43 PM
Quote from: haitian creole. on May 27, 2016, 02:45:14 PM
It's true :plzstop:

We're a very embracing community. Even if someone looks pure white and claims Black and/or is genuinely into our culture (not outright appropriating it...I think we can definitely tell the difference), we will accept them. But we embrace those who embrace us.

I believe you.

But sorr' Jackie (since u didn't acknowledge it to my knowledge).
And so Michelle slays. And she is 1st to me.
:ohwow:
Title: Re: Michelle Obama is not our first black First Lady! ANCESTORY GORLS come in
Post by: Rxxf on May 27, 2016, 03:03:51 PM
Quote from: haitian creole. on May 27, 2016, 02:50:07 PM
Quote from: ? on May 27, 2016, 02:47:43 PM
Quote from: haitian creole. on May 27, 2016, 02:45:14 PM
It's true :plzstop:

We're a very embracing community. Even if someone looks pure white and claims Black and/or is genuinely into our culture (not outright appropriating it...I think we can definitely tell the difference), we will accept them. But we embrace those who embrace us.

I believe you.

But sorr' Jackie (since u didn't acknowledge it to my knowledge).
and that's all I'm sayin :cheerup: :cheerup:

:wub: