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Title: Baptist pastor on Orlando attack: ?Are you sad that 50 pedophiles were killed"
Post by: Vonc2002 on June 15, 2016, 05:42:14 AM
There was a woman at an old job of mine that shared similar sentiments.  She believed homosexuality and pedophilia go hand in hand. My mind is blown that after what happened someone can get up and preach hate while attempting to pass it off as the gospel,  Jesus

QuoteSACRAMENTO, Calif.  -- A few short hours after 49 people were gunned down at a gay club in Orlando, Florida, Pastor Roger Jimenez delivered his sermon from his Sacramento pulpit.

"Hey, are you sad that 50 pedophiles were killed today? No ... I think that's great. I think that helps society.  I think Orlando, Florida's a little safer tonight," he said to the crowd of believers in front of him.

A link on his church's Facebook page, Verity Baptist Church,  directed viewers to the sermon on YouTube.

"It is unnatural for a man to be attracted to another man," he said as he preached for more than an hour.

"The tragedy is that more of them didn't die," he said.

For members of Sacramento's LGBTQ community, religious freedom is sacred, but leaders feel a vile line has been crossed.

"We as the gay community support you should be able to worship as you see fit, but it's when you use the pulpit to incite violence or demean or discredit another class of people, just utter disgust," said Donald Bentz, executive director of Sacramento's LGBTQ Community Center.

FOX40 reached out to Jimenez at his church, by phone and at his home Monday to no avail.

A congregant who lives just a few doors down from him said she fully supported her pastor, but wouldn't comment on camera about his message.

Throughout the sermon, Pastor Jimenez cited passages in the Bible from Judges 19:22, Genesis 4:1 and Romans 1:27 to back up his points.

Bentz countered that with a critique of the translation process.

"Most of those texts were originally written into Hebrew, translated into Greek, translated into Latin, translated into old English, new English and then back to English and every author that did the translations subjected them to the social mores of their time," he said.

And while Pastor Jimenez has told the faithful of his flock that Orlando is now safer without what he calls the 50 predators eliminated by a terrorist's gun, others believe the danger level in Sacramento has now increased.

"To know that this man's church is within driving distance of my home and where I work and where I'm walking at night, and his congregation members are out on the street, it's very scary," said Bentz.

Video here:
http://wgntv.com/2016/06/14/baptist-pastor-on-orlando-attack-are-you-sad-that-50-pedophiles-were-killed-today/
Title: Re: Baptist pastor on Orlando attack: ?Are you sad that 50 pedophiles were killed"
Post by: Vonc2002 on June 15, 2016, 05:49:01 AM
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I wanna ask a pastor or super religious person their thoughts on this. Why is homosexuality this "sin" that u are so unwaivering on?
Title: Re: Baptist pastor on Orlando attack: ?Are you sad that 50 pedophiles were killed"
Post by: CHOKE on June 15, 2016, 05:52:13 AM
Funny and ironic

Most gay men like MEN grown ass men not little boys

While straight men are always looking for a barely 18 mess owt
Title: Re: Baptist pastor on Orlando attack: ?Are you sad that 50 pedophiles were killed"
Post by: Aalonso. on June 15, 2016, 05:58:29 AM
I am sad.
Title: Re: Baptist pastor on Orlando attack: ?Are you sad that 50 pedophiles were killed"
Post by: The Brandy Barbie on June 15, 2016, 06:16:02 AM
Let's not give things like this our energy.
Title: Re: Baptist pastor on Orlando attack: ?Are you sad that 50 pedophiles were killed"
Post by: AIDS! on June 15, 2016, 06:28:12 AM
Quote from: The Brandy Barbie on June 15, 2016, 06:16:02 AM
Let's not give things like this our energy.
Title: Re: Baptist pastor on Orlando attack: ?Are you sad that 50 pedophiles were killed"
Post by: Kaeli. on June 15, 2016, 06:39:32 AM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on June 15, 2016, 05:49:01 AM
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I wanna ask a pastor or super religious person their thoughts on this. Why is homosexuality this "sin" that u are so unwaivering on?

Am I going to hell
Title: Re: Baptist pastor on Orlando attack: ?Are you sad that 50 pedophiles were killed"
Post by: Vonc2002 on June 15, 2016, 06:47:02 AM
Quote from: Kaeli. on June 15, 2016, 06:39:32 AM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on June 15, 2016, 05:49:01 AM
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I wanna ask a pastor or super religious person their thoughts on this. Why is homosexuality this "sin" that u are so unwaivering on?

Am I going to hell
Yea, 18 y.o self
Title: Re: Baptist pastor on Orlando attack: ?Are you sad that 50 pedophiles were killed"
Post by: SouravMay on June 15, 2016, 06:52:50 AM
The Food restrictions were lifted in the new testaments. Christians are allowed to eat anything really.
Title: Re: Baptist pastor on Orlando attack: ?Are you sad that 50 pedophiles were killed"
Post by: Vonc2002 on June 15, 2016, 07:00:47 AM
What are these amendments based on?  I'm being serious. How is something that initially was a sin now ok? I mean, i know they didn't consult with the original writers
Title: Re: Baptist pastor on Orlando attack: ?Are you sad that 50 pedophiles were killed"
Post by: KING BENTLEY. on June 15, 2016, 07:59:51 AM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on June 15, 2016, 05:49:01 AM
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I wanna ask a pastor or super religious person their thoughts on this. Why is homosexuality this "sin" that u are so unwaivering on?
they cling to the "abomination" scripture in Leviticus 20

Completely forgetting that just 5 chapters down in Leviticus 25, it actually explains how to obtain and keep prisoners of war. Basically telling the ppl to grab you slaves from neighboring countries

But don't tell black Christians that, they won't put shackles back on for shit!
Title: Re: Baptist pastor on Orlando attack: ?Are you sad that 50 pedophiles were killed"
Post by: Aalonso. on June 15, 2016, 08:04:11 AM
No shade but it feels unnatural for me to be Christian, if anything.
Title: Re: Baptist pastor on Orlando attack: ?Are you sad that 50 pedophiles were killed"
Post by: Aalonso. on June 15, 2016, 08:04:50 AM
But me liking men comes quite naturally. And I should know, cuz well, Im in my body.
Title: Re: Baptist pastor on Orlando attack: ?Are you sad that 50 pedophiles were killed"
Post by: KING BENTLEY. on June 15, 2016, 08:13:23 AM
Quote from: Magnolia Maymuru on June 15, 2016, 06:52:50 AM
The Food restrictions were lifted in the new testaments. Christians are allowed to eat anything really.
boy what, where? :uhh:
are you talking about Peter's vision?

that's often misinterpreted. This is a perfect example of man's appropriation of sin to fit their own needs.
if you're referring to what I think you are, Peter says "God has shown me that I should not call ANY MAN common or unclean" so you could also "argue" that Peter didn't see anymore abominations walking around :dead:

and even THEN, the text follows social mores, so you're just going to find scripture upon scripture not really providing much clarity

if you're talking bout the passage in Mark, the translation has been screwed up many times over the years to the point different versions of the bible mean two completely different things  :kii:
Title: Re: Baptist pastor on Orlando attack: ?Are you sad that 50 pedophiles were killed"
Post by: FAMÈ on June 15, 2016, 08:17:38 AM
I don't know this man so why would I care? (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/korn0818/b80efe23.gif)
Title: Re: Baptist pastor on Orlando attack: ?Are you sad that 50 pedophiles were killed"
Post by: Vonc2002 on June 15, 2016, 08:19:58 AM
:uhh:
Title: Re: Baptist pastor on Orlando attack: ?Are you sad that 50 pedophiles were killed"
Post by: Opposites Attract. on June 15, 2016, 08:25:49 AM
It's disgusting. Leviticus is in the Old Testament too. I just...

Why are people so damn evil and why... Nvm
Title: Re: Baptist pastor on Orlando attack: ?Are you sad that 50 pedophiles were killed"
Post by: GRAND on June 15, 2016, 08:44:23 AM
What a weirdo.
Title: Re: Baptist pastor on Orlando attack: ?Are you sad that 50 pedophiles were killed"
Post by: Young on June 15, 2016, 09:13:16 AM
Quote from: The Brandy Barbie on June 15, 2016, 06:16:02 AM
Let's not give things like this our energy.