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Title: HONESTY HOUR: Gay Black men, do you 'BUTCH IT UP' at the barbershop?
Post by: MAY on August 01, 2016, 05:34:09 PM
Do you act "more masculine" at the barbershop to blend in with the straight guys, or do you just not give a damn?
Title: Re: HONESTY HOUR: Gay Black men, do you 'BUTCH IT UP' at the barbershop?
Post by: Gilgamesh. on August 01, 2016, 05:35:45 PM
nah, i've been going to the same barber for years so i'm really comfortable there.
Title: Re: HONESTY HOUR: Gay Black men, do you 'BUTCH IT UP' at the barbershop?
Post by: MAY on August 01, 2016, 05:35:52 PM
It's crazy that I was just thinking about this subject earlier and then came across this article:

QuoteThe documentary ?Shape Up: Gay in the Black Barbershop? shows how getting a haircut isn?t always a positive experience for guys who aren?t straight.

(http://www.takepart.com/sites/default/files/styles/large_responsive_tablet/public/black-gay-barbershop.jpg?itok=VeMEt02I)

Derrick Middleton remembers the wave of discomfort that washed over him as a child whenever he entered a local barbershop with his father.

?I had to perform masculinity in these spaces,? Middleton told TakePart. ?Black barbershops are some of the most hypermasculine spaces in the world; at times they can remind you of a locker room. This was terrifying for me as a young boy who already felt that I was different from other boys.?
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Some gay black men ?are out and proud in every aspect of their lives, but they go back into the closet whenever they enter a barbershop,? said Middleton.

How influential barbershops are in black neighborhoods, as well as the difficulties gay men have with feeling accepted in them, is the subject of the documentary Shape Up: Gay in the Black Barbershop. The film, directed by Middleton, won the grand prize at the March on Washington Film Festival in Washington, D.C., in July.

?Barbershops are pillars in the black community that have historically been safe spaces for black men to gather and share ideas and information,? Middleton said. ?I want to work toward ensuring that these sacred spaces are also safe for and inclusive of the LGBTQ community.?

The documentary follows black gay men, both clients and barbers, into barbershops in Harlem, New York, as they try to find a place there without sacrificing their identity. The film ?also addresses misogyny, which I discovered is very closely linked to homophobia in the ways in which it is expressed within these spaces,? Middleton said. ?There are a great number of women who are just as uncomfortable in barbershops as some gay men are.?

Middleton grew up in New York City and began visiting barbershops with his dad when he was about five. As he got older, his fear of being excluded for being gay became a reality.
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?I have a series of personal experiences that have occurred throughout the years that have motivated me to direct Shape Up. One of the most impactful was when I was kicked out of a barbershop by a homophobic barber who referred to my asking for a specific haircut as ?sissy shit,? ? Middleton said.

Scenes filmed in barbershops give the documentary authenticity, and they also presented production hurdles.

?The most challenging aspect of filming was trying to get more candid barbershop footage of what I'd call men behaving badly. No business wants to be portrayed as a homophobic or misogynist space on film, even if that is the reality,? Middleton said.

So far, Middleton said people who have seen the film, both gay and straight men, have been receptive to it, and he hopes viewers will start talking about how to create inclusive spaces.

?I truly believe that in order for us to effect change in these spaces, we must make ourselves visible as part of the LGBTQ community,? Middleton said. ?I learned that a vast majority of men in barbershops naturally assume that every guy in the shop is heterosexual unless the person is extremely flamboyant. So what that tells us is that there are a lot of times when gay men are offended unintentionally by men who don?t even realize that there may be LGBTQ people in the room that they are offending.?

Watch the trailer here: https://vimeo.com/160968445

http://www.takepart.com/article/2016/07/31/turning-barbershops-safe-spaces-gay-black-men
Title: Re: HONESTY HOUR: Gay Black men, do you 'BUTCH IT UP' at the barbershop?
Post by: 1stsecuritybank on August 01, 2016, 05:37:37 PM
Wat da hell do u think ... .wat type a question and who cares. Feminine men are welcomed jus as dl men are. These barbers don't wanna be there as is, my barber told me he dreads cutting heads cus shit gets old after awhile...so wat make u think barbers are thinking about how u act its a fucking pay check for them n niggas coming in aren't thinkin bout yo ass either.
Title: Re: HONESTY HOUR: Gay Black men, do you 'BUTCH IT UP' at the barbershop?
Post by: 1stsecuritybank on August 01, 2016, 05:38:12 PM
Mayday who ever u are u a gullible faggot to think the world resolves around black gay men
Title: Re: HONESTY HOUR: Gay Black men, do you 'BUTCH IT UP' at the barbershop?
Post by: GRAND on August 01, 2016, 05:40:21 PM
j

those fags know nothing about me besides what i want done to my head
Title: Re: HONESTY HOUR: Gay Black men, do you 'BUTCH IT UP' at the barbershop?
Post by: CHOKE on August 01, 2016, 05:40:37 PM
N

I use to fuck my barber
Title: Re: HONESTY HOUR: Gay Black men, do you 'BUTCH IT UP' at the barbershop?
Post by: Treasure on August 01, 2016, 05:40:41 PM
havent been to one since i was like..12?

11 or 12
nvr cuttin my hair 'gain
Title: Re: HONESTY HOUR: Gay Black men, do you 'BUTCH IT UP' at the barbershop?
Post by: GRAND on August 01, 2016, 05:41:05 PM
well except this one man with a long beard and 2 kids

i know he sees me starring at his fine ass

:gorlonfire:
Title: Re: HONESTY HOUR: Gay Black men, do you 'BUTCH IT UP' at the barbershop?
Post by: MAY on August 01, 2016, 05:41:19 PM
Gor if you don't take your loose screw havin ass out my thread
Title: Re: HONESTY HOUR: Gay Black men, do you 'BUTCH IT UP' at the barbershop?
Post by: yummy on August 01, 2016, 05:41:21 PM
I might sit with my legs a bit wider and act like I'm watching the basketball game on tv, but I usually just perch on my phone.

It's kinda difficult to filter out all the ignorant shit I hear in there tho. One nigga was in there saying men should be allowed to date girls in high school if they "look old enough"....

:hmph:
Title: Re: HONESTY HOUR: Gay Black men, do you 'BUTCH IT UP' at the barbershop?
Post by: MAY on August 01, 2016, 05:41:36 PM
And take that fuckin HOG in your avi with you
Title: Re: HONESTY HOUR: Gay Black men, do you 'BUTCH IT UP' at the barbershop?
Post by: 1stsecuritybank on August 01, 2016, 05:41:49 PM
Quote from: GRAND on August 01, 2016, 05:40:21 PM
j

those fags know nothing about me besides what i want done to my head

right I dont dare get personal although I'd like to taste my barbers cack. His dick print stays rubbing against my hand n ummm  :ohwow: :ohwow:
Title: Re: HONESTY HOUR: Gay Black men, do you 'BUTCH IT UP' at the barbershop?
Post by: Treasure on August 01, 2016, 05:43:12 PM
Quote from: Chokeme on August 01, 2016, 05:40:37 PM
N

I use to fuck my barber
hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhre
Title: Re: HONESTY HOUR: Gay Black men, do you 'BUTCH IT UP' at the barbershop?
Post by: Lazarus on August 01, 2016, 05:43:39 PM
Quote from: GRAND on August 01, 2016, 05:40:21 PM
j

those fags know nothing about me besides what i want done to my head
Title: Re: HONESTY HOUR: Gay Black men, do you 'BUTCH IT UP' at the barbershop?
Post by: Treasure on August 01, 2016, 05:43:56 PM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on August 01, 2016, 05:41:21 PM
I might sit with my legs a bit wider and act like I'm watching the basketball game on tv, but I usually just perch on my phone.

It's kinda difficult to filter out all the ignorant shit I hear in there tho. One nigga was in there saying men should be allowed to date girls in high school if they "look old enough"....

:hmph:

YUCKS

i hate straight men
Title: Re: HONESTY HOUR: Gay Black men, do you 'BUTCH IT UP' at the barbershop?
Post by: 1stsecuritybank on August 01, 2016, 05:44:02 PM
Quote from: MΛΥDΛΥ on August 01, 2016, 05:41:19 PM
Gor if you don't take your loose screw havin ass out my thread

fuck u faggot u da one with the screws lose u think your barber talkin about u cus u got sugar n da tank ahhh poor baby u want a hug or a kiss even  :young: fuck out of here go get on growlr n find your next nut loser
Title: Re: HONESTY HOUR: Gay Black men, do you 'BUTCH IT UP' at the barbershop?
Post by: Glenda on August 01, 2016, 05:45:04 PM
I haven't stepped foot into a barbershop in years.
Title: Re: HONESTY HOUR: Gay Black men, do you 'BUTCH IT UP' at the barbershop?
Post by: GRAND on August 01, 2016, 05:45:16 PM
read him gu'
Title: Re: HONESTY HOUR: Gay Black men, do you 'BUTCH IT UP' at the barbershop?
Post by: Zankou. on August 01, 2016, 05:45:39 PM
Quote from: MΛΥDΛΥ on August 01, 2016, 05:41:19 PM
Gor if you don't take your loose screw havin ass out my thread

what the...
Title: Re: HONESTY HOUR: Gay Black men, do you 'BUTCH IT UP' at the barbershop?
Post by: 1stsecuritybank on August 01, 2016, 05:45:49 PM
Quote from: MΛΥDΛΥ on August 01, 2016, 05:41:36 PM
And take that fuckin HOG in your avi with you
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Title: Re: HONESTY HOUR: Gay Black men, do you 'BUTCH IT UP' at the barbershop?
Post by: MAY on August 01, 2016, 05:45:58 PM
Ch...let me block this nutty gorl
Title: Re: HONESTY HOUR: Gay Black men, do you 'BUTCH IT UP' at the barbershop?
Post by: Zankou. on August 01, 2016, 05:46:11 PM
kdahdahsdahsdas
Title: Re: HONESTY HOUR: Gay Black men, do you 'BUTCH IT UP' at the barbershop?
Post by: 1stsecuritybank on August 01, 2016, 05:46:18 PM
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Title: Re: HONESTY HOUR: Gay Black men, do you 'BUTCH IT UP' at the barbershop?
Post by: 1stsecuritybank on August 01, 2016, 05:47:06 PM
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Title: Re: HONESTY HOUR: Gay Black men, do you 'BUTCH IT UP' at the barbershop?
Post by: Zankou. on August 01, 2016, 05:47:20 PM
girl
Title: Re: HONESTY HOUR: Gay Black men, do you 'BUTCH IT UP' at the barbershop?
Post by: CHOKE on August 01, 2016, 05:47:57 PM
I luvs watching straight men in their natural habitat

The way they adjust their dicks and sit with their legs wide open while wearing shorts

:ohwow:
Title: Re: HONESTY HOUR: Gay Black men, do you 'BUTCH IT UP' at the barbershop?
Post by: GRAND on August 01, 2016, 05:50:31 PM
,mmmmmmmmmmm
Title: Re: HONESTY HOUR: Gay Black men, do you 'BUTCH IT UP' at the barbershop?
Post by: Nine on August 01, 2016, 05:53:39 PM
Every time I go to a barbershop I remember why I don't go, I feel so uncomfortable.

:sevynstreeter:

Hate them tbh
Title: Re: HONESTY HOUR: Gay Black men, do you 'BUTCH IT UP' at the barbershop?
Post by: Treasure on August 01, 2016, 05:56:29 PM
Quote from: Nice Stereo. on August 01, 2016, 05:47:20 PM
girl
yea?

hey  :youready:
Title: Re: HONESTY HOUR: Gay Black men, do you 'BUTCH IT UP' at the barbershop?
Post by: Real on August 01, 2016, 06:03:42 PM
This gay guy went crazy in my barbershop one day because one of the barber's called him a faggot. I mean he completely lost it. It was hilarious because everybody just kinda :everythingok:
Title: Re: HONESTY HOUR: Gay Black men, do you 'BUTCH IT UP' at the barbershop?
Post by: 1stsecuritybank on August 01, 2016, 06:04:13 PM
Quote from: Don Draper on August 01, 2016, 06:03:42 PM
This gay guy went crazy in my barbershop one day because one of the barber's called him a faggot. I mean he completely lost it. It was hilarious because everybody just kinda :everythingok:

lmao what hppen
Title: Re: HONESTY HOUR: Gay Black men, do you 'BUTCH IT UP' at the barbershop?
Post by: Treasure on August 01, 2016, 06:08:01 PM
Quote from: Don Draper on August 01, 2016, 06:03:42 PM
This gay guy went crazy in my barbershop one day because one of the barber's called him a faggot. I mean he completely lost it. It was hilarious because everybody just kinda :everythingok:

how did he call him a faggot

was he jokin' or sumn
Title: Re: HONESTY HOUR: Gay Black men, do you 'BUTCH IT UP' at the barbershop?
Post by: Real on August 01, 2016, 06:12:05 PM
Quote from: Chao on August 01, 2016, 06:08:01 PM
Quote from: Don Draper on August 01, 2016, 06:03:42 PM
This gay guy went crazy in my barbershop one day because one of the barber's called him a faggot. I mean he completely lost it. It was hilarious because everybody just kinda :everythingok:

how did he call him a faggot

was he jokin' or sumn

The chick that cuts his hair wasn't there, so asked if one of the other guys would cut him. He stepped out like 10 minutes later and one of em was like "you know I ain't cutting that fag right?" But he said it in a joking way. Couple minutes later and that nigga came in acting a fool.

It's no way he could have heard it so we just assume that he knew somebody else in there and they texted him
Title: Re: HONESTY HOUR: Gay Black men, do you 'BUTCH IT UP' at the barbershop?
Post by: Treasure on August 01, 2016, 06:15:13 PM
 :omgwatshappening:
Title: Re: HONESTY HOUR: Gay Black men, do you 'BUTCH IT UP' at the barbershop?
Post by: Treasure on August 01, 2016, 06:15:53 PM
real if u EVR call me a fag wen i visit...wha ha, o bruv

its goin DOWN
Title: Re: HONESTY HOUR: Gay Black men, do you 'BUTCH IT UP' at the barbershop?
Post by: CHOKE on August 01, 2016, 06:17:22 PM
King shoulda acted a damns fool. Would have too and then reminded him where he was working
Title: Re: HONESTY HOUR: Gay Black men, do you 'BUTCH IT UP' at the barbershop?
Post by: GLOCK on August 01, 2016, 06:21:43 PM
I'm already masculine
But they don't bother ppl at my barbershop
They treat everyone with the same level of respect and acceptance
Title: Re: HONESTY HOUR: Gay Black men, do you 'BUTCH IT UP' at the barbershop?
Post by: 1stsecuritybank on August 01, 2016, 06:29:17 PM
Quote from: 'lock on August 01, 2016, 06:21:43 PM
I'm already masculine
But they don't bother ppl at my barbershop
They treat everyone with the same level of respect and acceptance
Title: Re: HONESTY HOUR: Gay Black men, do you 'BUTCH IT UP' at the barbershop?
Post by: Treasure on August 01, 2016, 06:30:23 PM
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Title: Re: HONESTY HOUR: Gay Black men, do you 'BUTCH IT UP' at the barbershop?
Post by: GRAND on August 01, 2016, 06:30:31 PM
Quote from: 1stsecuritybank on August 01, 2016, 06:29:17 PM
Quote from: 'lock on August 01, 2016, 06:21:43 PM
I'm already masculine
But they don't bother ppl at my barbershop
They treat everyone with the same level of respect and acceptance
you give trade gu'?

:wellheythere:
Title: Re: HONESTY HOUR: Gay Black men, do you 'BUTCH IT UP' at the barbershop?
Post by: Kurama on August 01, 2016, 06:35:54 PM
Quote from: MΛΥDΛΥ on August 01, 2016, 05:35:52 PM
It's crazy that I was just thinking about this subject earlier and then came across this article:

QuoteThe documentary ?Shape Up: Gay in the Black Barbershop? shows how getting a haircut isn?t always a positive experience for guys who aren?t straight.

(http://www.takepart.com/sites/default/files/styles/large_responsive_tablet/public/black-gay-barbershop.jpg?itok=VeMEt02I)

Derrick Middleton remembers the wave of discomfort that washed over him as a child whenever he entered a local barbershop with his father.

?I had to perform masculinity in these spaces,? Middleton told TakePart. ?Black barbershops are some of the most hypermasculine spaces in the world; at times they can remind you of a locker room. This was terrifying for me as a young boy who already felt that I was different from other boys.?
Advertisement

Some gay black men ?are out and proud in every aspect of their lives, but they go back into the closet whenever they enter a barbershop,? said Middleton.

How influential barbershops are in black neighborhoods, as well as the difficulties gay men have with feeling accepted in them, is the subject of the documentary Shape Up: Gay in the Black Barbershop. The film, directed by Middleton, won the grand prize at the March on Washington Film Festival in Washington, D.C., in July.

?Barbershops are pillars in the black community that have historically been safe spaces for black men to gather and share ideas and information,? Middleton said. ?I want to work toward ensuring that these sacred spaces are also safe for and inclusive of the LGBTQ community.?

The documentary follows black gay men, both clients and barbers, into barbershops in Harlem, New York, as they try to find a place there without sacrificing their identity. The film ?also addresses misogyny, which I discovered is very closely linked to homophobia in the ways in which it is expressed within these spaces,? Middleton said. ?There are a great number of women who are just as uncomfortable in barbershops as some gay men are.?

Middleton grew up in New York City and began visiting barbershops with his dad when he was about five. As he got older, his fear of being excluded for being gay became a reality.
Advertisement

?I have a series of personal experiences that have occurred throughout the years that have motivated me to direct Shape Up. One of the most impactful was when I was kicked out of a barbershop by a homophobic barber who referred to my asking for a specific haircut as ?sissy shit,? ? Middleton said.

Scenes filmed in barbershops give the documentary authenticity, and they also presented production hurdles.

?The most challenging aspect of filming was trying to get more candid barbershop footage of what I'd call men behaving badly. No business wants to be portrayed as a homophobic or misogynist space on film, even if that is the reality,? Middleton said.

So far, Middleton said people who have seen the film, both gay and straight men, have been receptive to it, and he hopes viewers will start talking about how to create inclusive spaces.

?I truly believe that in order for us to effect change in these spaces, we must make ourselves visible as part of the LGBTQ community,? Middleton said. ?I learned that a vast majority of men in barbershops naturally assume that every guy in the shop is heterosexual unless the person is extremely flamboyant. So what that tells us is that there are a lot of times when gay men are offended unintentionally by men who don?t even realize that there may be LGBTQ people in the room that they are offending.?

Watch the trailer here: https://vimeo.com/160968445

http://www.takepart.com/article/2016/07/31/turning-barbershops-safe-spaces-gay-black-men

lemme check this out thx bavi
Title: Re: HONESTY HOUR: Gay Black men, do you 'BUTCH IT UP' at the barbershop?
Post by: BAPHOMET. on August 01, 2016, 06:36:33 PM
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Title: Re: HONESTY HOUR: Gay Black men, do you 'BUTCH IT UP' at the barbershop?
Post by: 1stsecuritybank on August 01, 2016, 06:37:45 PM
Quote from: GRAND on August 01, 2016, 06:30:31 PM
Quote from: 1stsecuritybank on August 01, 2016, 06:29:17 PM
Quote from: 'lock on August 01, 2016, 06:21:43 PM
I'm already masculine
But they don't bother ppl at my barbershop
They treat everyone with the same level of respect and acceptance
you give trade gu'?

:wellheythere:

Really  :ohwow: neva thought I did but guess so cus my barber did ask me once when i'm have kids i was taken aback always thought I gave slight feminine tea
Title: Re: HONESTY HOUR: Gay Black men, do you 'BUTCH IT UP' at the barbershop?
Post by: MAY on August 01, 2016, 06:38:18 PM
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Title: Re: HONESTY HOUR: Gay Black men, do you 'BUTCH IT UP' at the barbershop?
Post by: Sinpool on August 01, 2016, 06:47:10 PM
skndd

I haven't had a haircut in years, but I don't really remember being that uncomfortable in barber shops. I just remember being ready to go the fuck home as a child.
Title: Re: HONESTY HOUR: Gay Black men, do you 'BUTCH IT UP' at the barbershop?
Post by: 1stsecuritybank on August 01, 2016, 06:48:15 PM
Quote from: MΛΥDΛΥ on August 01, 2016, 06:38:18 PM
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Title: Re: HONESTY HOUR: Gay Black men, do you 'BUTCH IT UP' at the barbershop?
Post by: Sinpool on August 01, 2016, 06:49:17 PM
Actually now that I think about it I always hated Barbershop conversations because all it revolved around was sports and fucking women. Hardly ever anythign of substance.