QuoteThe standard for planet-stopping artistic statements in pop music is now so high that you need a pilot?s license to compete with the Beyonc?s, Kanyes and Kendricks of the world. But when Janet Jackson craved ascent, she didn?t go to flight school. She went to Flyte Tyme. That was the Minneapolis production company Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis operated and where the three came up with ?Control,? Ms. Jackson?s third record and the first of their subtly strange, sonically complex thematic carnivals. The album turned 30 in February, peaked in popularity right about this time that year (hitting No. 1 in July) and still sounds today as much like 1986 as it does 2056. Some producers make hooks. These three made wedgies.
?Control? is a work of confidence, cleverness and justifiable irritation. It?s also full of weird, amazing sounds that, 30 years later, it?s easy to take for granted as the way latter-day pop music has always been: polished in a factory to a gemlike gleam. But most of the nine songs on this album ? nine songs! ? weren?t just factory-generated; they were performed by almost entirely aggressive, attitudinal heavy machinery that was new for both Top 40 and the outer limits of mainstream R&B. Meanwhile, for any number of reasons (that Super Bowl scandal, the long shadow of other stars, our cultural amnesia), the woman behind the wheel has been demoted to the back seat. And that, of course, warrants a correction.
Ms. Jackson was around 20 when she entered the recording studio after a stint as a sitcom star (poor Penny on ?Good Times,? richer Charlene on ?Diff?rent Strokes?), an annulled marriage and a split from her notoriously oppressive father, Joe. So a decree was in order: ?When it?s got to do with my life/I want to be the one in control.? That?s from the opening song, ?Control,? which begins with a spoken proclamation of self-emancipation: ?This is a story about control.? Jimmy Jam and Mr. Lewis orbited Prince, and that opening has always sounded like a counterpoint to the mania of ?Let?s Go Crazy,? which had just completed devouring America the year before. In the face of collapse, Prince demanded chaos. Ms. Jackson?s idea of anarchy was, well, control
In the middle of the title track, Ms. Jackson sings, ?First time I fell in love/I didn?t know what hit me,? and you can hear a car screeching into a collision. The next song starts with a demand: ?Gimme a beat!? And the beat she gets is like no beat you?ve heard. It?s a bunch of drums punching themselves silly, then five notes of metallic, pipelike noise, joined by a strange, constant click. This is ?Nasty,? and its violence is delicious. If the song has one climax, it must have four.
Here was America?s Penny sounding like the proudly nasty funk artist Millie Jackson (no relation; not biologically, anyway). The song is part antichauvinist call to arms, part street fight, part ?had it up to here? exasperation, part wink ? each a mood Ms. Jackson would deploy for most of her career. That constant click starts to make a lot of sense. It?s the first No. 3 hit built around the sucking of teeth.
For two happy weeks, my favorite song on ?Control? was also America?s. ?When I Think of You? hit No. 1 in October 1986, but it began its hike toward the top in July and sounds the most like summer. It?s wearing the lightest clothes of any of the tracks and it dons them very slowly: first a plink of keyboard, then some jabs of bass, drums and percussion, hopscotching vibes, and, finally, a blast of artificial horns that sound an alarm that Ms. Jackson is going to do some of her prettiest singing. Hearing her here is like being able to see the seafloor from the shore.
In the middle of the title track, Ms. Jackson sings, ?First time I fell in love/I didn?t know what hit me,? and you can hear a car screeching into a collision. The next song starts with a demand: ?Gimme a beat!? And the beat she gets is like no beat you?ve heard. It?s a bunch of drums punching themselves silly, then five notes of metallic, pipelike noise, joined by a strange, constant click. This is ?Nasty,? and its violence is delicious. If the song has one climax, it must have four.
ADVERTISEMENT
Here was America?s Penny sounding like the proudly nasty funk artist Millie Jackson (no relation; not biologically, anyway). The song is part antichauvinist call to arms, part street fight, part ?had it up to here? exasperation, part wink ? each a mood Ms. Jackson would deploy for most of her career. That constant click starts to make a lot of sense. It?s the first No. 3 hit built around the sucking of teeth.
For two happy weeks, my favorite song on ?Control? was also America?s. ?When I Think of You? hit No. 1 in October 1986, but it began its hike toward the top in July and sounds the most like summer. It?s wearing the lightest clothes of any of the tracks and it dons them very slowly: first a plink of keyboard, then some jabs of bass, drums and percussion, hopscotching vibes, and, finally, a blast of artificial horns that sound an alarm that Ms. Jackson is going to do some of her prettiest singing. Hearing her here is like being able to see the seafloor from the shore.
Released 30 years ago, Janet Jackson?s album ?Control? was a polished, confident work, a statement of emancipation. Over time it has also become an argument for her impact on pop culture.
THE LIFE PICTURE COLLECTION/GETTY IMAGES
Ms. Jackson has a souffl? of a voice ? thin, delicate, pleasurably sweet. Sometimes she, Jimmy Jam and Mr. Lewis could bury it with layers of sound, but not here. After about three minutes and 18 seconds of straightforward, daydreaming pop, she says, ?Break,? and the bottom falls out, leaving just the keyboard and percussion, and a new, primal energy takes over. Then the bass reappears, some chanting builds to a squawking wail, the music explodes, and Ms. Jackson laughs and sings, ?Feels so good/When I think of you.? Seconds later, the song?s over. So what?s it about? ?You,? but probably what Ms. Jackson does when she, uh, thinks of you.
It makes sense to admire ?Control? as an album about independence. It?s a compelling tale of freedom in which Ms. Jackson liberates herself from the demands of suffocating men to make her own demands. She granted herself permission to define her sexiness. Even now, the excitement of ?When I Think of You? is the sight of a cherubic Janet Jackson dance-walking across a soundstage in a silky, tricked-out jacket and bustier, matching pants, heels, that hoop earring with the key on it, and the mane of three lions. That was also the summer of Madonna?s ?Open Your Heart? video, in which she seduced with just the bustier, some fishnets and a peep show. Despite, or more likely because of, all those clothes, Ms. Jackson?s dancing seemed all the freer.
.
:ohwow:
Read the rest
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/mobile.nytimes.com/2016/08/09/arts/music/janet-jackson-control-anniversary.amp.html
:gorlonfire: :gorlonfire: :gorlonfire:
My favorite album by her
This CLASSIC piece of work. I can't believe it's been 30 years.
Goddam ICON
The fact that QUEEN was able to still book a #1 album after all these years without an ounce of promo.
:stressed:
:gorlonfire: :gorlonfire: :gorlonfire: :gorlonfire: :gorlonfire: :gorlonfire: :gorlonfire:
b
QuoteI?m a white man and a teacher. Much of my work over the past six years has involved meticulously analyzing Beyonc??s music, videos, and career alongside important black feminist writers ― in classrooms, during speaking engagements, and in writing. I?m sometimes criticized for doing so because I?m a white man talking about work that is outside my own personal experience. I?m not defensive about those critiques. They?re valid. But I still attempt to explain why I do what I do because there are also more complicated conversations to be had, located under that surface, about power, responsibility, and representation.
My representation story is not about when I first saw or heard myself in pop culture. That can be a life-saving moment for those underrepresented, but I was everywhere, hard to miss. White men dominated when I was growing up, and still do. White men tacitly expect and demand anyone unlike them to erase their own differences, to identify with white male experience as the ?norm.? My representation story, as someone who holds power and privilege in various ways, is about learning to not see myself.
As a kid, I didn?t know any political buzz words or anything about the dynamics of power and privilege. I just knew that I liked what I liked. And what I liked, revered above all other things actually, was Janet Jackson?s music.
I was a white boy growing up in a monolithic ultra-conservative suburban town in Utah. Nothing about Janet Jackson reflected my reality or my surroundings. But looking back, hearing Jackson?s ?Control? began a life-long journey for me: one of deep appreciation of black feminist work of all kinds and attempts to connect, respectfully, across difference. It wasn?t the novelty of difference or diversity that attracted me to Jackson; it was the content of her message, one of hard-won self-determination. One of overcoming obstacles and exposing the system that created those problems. As a black woman in America, she knew perfectly well what the real obstacles to self-determination were. As a white boy in Utah, I didn?t. I wanted to learn from her.
As I grew up, I jumped from Janet Jackson to (among many others) Alice Walker in high school, Audre Lorde, Angela Davis, and June Jordan in college. I became politically conscious. But I had to search out these voices because they weren?t readily offered to me in my formal education.
At the end of high school, I also came out as queer. In retrospect, I realized one of my early associations with Jackson singing, ?When I was seventeen, I did what people told me / Did what my father said and let my mother mold me / But that was a long ago / Now I?m in control,? was also a dream I wanted to realize for myself. Despite the difference in our identities and situations, there was a kernel of commonality. That core experience of feeling ?other? remains true across differences, though the particulars are vastly different.
I would never claim black women?s struggle as my own. I don?t feel like a black woman. I?m not a black woman. But what I?ve learned about black feminism as a political ideology is that it?s about the liberation of all people from oppression ― starting with the most vulnerable, those living at the intersections of multiple oppressions. And though my own oppression as a queer man, my own ?othering? differs in comparison, I know when oppression is fought at the intersections, it is fought for everyone anywhere on any of multiple axes. And I know the alternative model, i.e. working towards the easiest solution for the least oppressed among us winning inclusion in the system, does not work for those most in need. So I side with black feminism.
We all need to be studying black feminism. The journey that started with Janet Jackson for me has culminated in a university course I created in 2010 called ?Politicizing Beyonc?? that I have been teaching ever since. The course puts Beyonc??s artistic work (which truly takes the baton from Jackson as the next great black feminist mainstream music and visual art) in conversation with black feminist writing spanning U.S. history. To mitigate my own identity, I only assign the words and work of black women in the class and use a conversational format in my teaching. Though I?m a white man present in the room, I feature black women exclusively on the syllabus. This isn?t a perfect solution, but it?s mine. And I?m open and willing to learn from any mistakes I?m bound to make in the service of bigger goals.
My students and the groups I speak to now are diverse. I?m not trying to teach on, for, about, or to black women?s experience or position myself as an expert; rather, I want to encourage all young people to use black feminism as a lens to see the world while staying within the bounds of our own identities. An urgent and necessary skill. We all live together in a world that has made black feminism such an indispensable intervention; we all have parts to play in the solution, while always respectfully centering the voices of black women themselves of course. I try to use privileged pieces of my identity to gain access to spaces where I can create and continue introductory conversations around race, gender, and sexuality that prepare young people for further political thinking, organizing, and education that should and must be led by black women themselves.
I hope my story and experience can show how diverse (or as Shonda Rhimes rightly calls it, ?normalized?) representation is vital not just for those needing to see and hear themselves represented, but for those of us with power and privilege, desperately in need of lessons on how to connect across differences. It actually does us a great service to not see ourselves so heavily represented. When I first heard Janet Jackson?s ?Control? in 1986, I had no idea one day I would be teaching a class revolving around Beyonc? and black feminism. But when I first heard Jackson?s words, I knew that they were changing me. That I would never forget them. And because I heard Janet Jackson in 1986, I?m still trying to work towards a world that connects across our differences.
After a long absence from music, Janet Jackson released a new album in 2015 called Unbreakable. In one song, she sings, ?If you wanna show me love / Let?s keep the conversation going.? The conversation, for me, started in 1986 with Jackson?s ?Control.? I?m no hero. I?m far from the only one doing any of this. This is just one queer white boy from Utah?s story about how representation that didn?t center on him deeply mattered. A story that hopefully begins to show, for those with access to power and privilege, lessons taken from not seeing yourself are so much more important than the tacit gratification of being seen as the default. Let?s keep the conversation going.
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_57a2463ae4b0456cb7e14e90
All these think pieces
Quote from: Lazarus on August 09, 2016, 05:17:35 PM
:gorlonfire: :gorlonfire: :gorlonfire: :gorlonfire: :gorlonfire: :gorlonfire: :gorlonfire:
ack!
PP>>>>>>>
Quote from: MΛΥDΛΥ on August 09, 2016, 05:14:37 PM
This CLASSIC piece of work. I can't believe it's been 30 years.
:omgwatshappening: :omgwatshappening: :omgwatshappening:
Lemme just
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlxrLsweYeg
(http://i.giphy.com/MvZKiDJmB1XEs.gif)
Quote from: Vonc2002 on August 09, 2016, 05:26:39 PM
Lemme just
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlxrLsweYeg
(http://i.giphy.com/MvZKiDJmB1XEs.gif)
classic
Jayda, how would you rank Jan's albums?
Hhjjj who else slayed the scene with a 9 track set? :dead:
Quote from: MΛΥDΛΥ on August 09, 2016, 05:39:40 PM
Jayda, how would you rank Jan's albums?
The Velvet Rope
Rythmn Nation
Janet
All For You
Control
Damita Jo
Discipline
20 Y.O
Unbreakable
The others
Quote from: Capricorn King on August 09, 2016, 05:41:59 PM
Quote from: MΛΥDΛΥ on August 09, 2016, 05:39:40 PM
Jayda, how would you rank Jan's albums?
The Velvet Rope
Rythmn Nation
Janet
All For You
Control
Damita Jo
Discipline
20 Y.O
Unbreakable
The others
Rhythm Nation
Velvet
Damita Jo
Janet
Control
All For You
Unbreakable
Discipline
20 Y.O.
I actually dont mind 20 Y.O It's the only Janet album I dont have (outside of those first 2). I need to purchase it
I absolutely love this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGsmzs1H0As
Quote from: Vonc2002 on August 09, 2016, 05:47:08 PM
I actually dont mind 20 Y.O It's the only Janet album I dont have (outside of those first 2). I need to purchase it
I absolutely love this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGsmzs1H0As
the 2nd half>>>>
Have you heard 'Love2Love' and 'Daybreak' from it?
Quote from: Capricorn King on August 09, 2016, 05:48:31 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on August 09, 2016, 05:47:08 PM
I actually dont mind 20 Y.O It's the only Janet album I dont have (outside of those first 2). I need to purchase it
I absolutely love this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGsmzs1H0As
the 2nd half>>>>
Have you heard 'Love2Love' and 'Daybreak' from it?
yea, Ive heard the whole album. I LOVE L2L. Daybreak is EH
AND THIS! :gorlonfire:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCUn22BFmBc
sexy bitch
Quote from: Vonc2002 on August 09, 2016, 05:53:50 PM
AND THIS! :gorlonfire:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCUn22BFmBc
sexy bitch
nsjdjdjdjsjssjsksjsjsjsjsjsjskaooaisisiaoa
The BEST song on the album
Tbh
Wait faggit did you put Damita Jo above Janet!?!
I should probably listen to "janet" again
The only Janet albums that I REALLY have played out are VR, RN, Unbreakable, and control
Queen
Random but Throb has always reminded me of Paula's Vibeology
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEFExaigKEE
Control
Velvet Rope
Rhythm Nation
Janet.
The rest
Wow this came out in the 80s? She has really fallen off and has never recovered.
f
she's outsold beyonce
Iconic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLmxKSdjiZQ
ACK
:ack:
N
Bey has already achieved more in her 20 year career thaN Jans and she's not even 35 yet
But this isnt about Bey
and still hasnt managed to out sell jan or have as many hit songs LOLZ
With being out since before Bey was even born I would fuckin hope so :dead:
But yeah she has already eclipsed her career
11 vma noms, Grammy noms and Emmys I mean and a tour that rivals the Rolling Stones has Jans EVER?
She had a cute career I guess it's just too bad she couldn't stay relevant like Madge
Chard move
This fake lashing
Quote from: Vonc2002 on August 09, 2016, 06:24:00 PM
and still hasnt managed to out sell jan or have as many hit songs LOLZ
:feelinmyself:
Quote from: 'lock on August 09, 2016, 06:36:53 PM
Chard move
This fake lashing
!!!
It's so late & try hard
f
TOUR
When Janet was 34 her album sales were better and she had already had more #1 hits :kii:
Ur PR team sucks Hun
is this about Bey or Control
:diddraispoot:
Quote from: Vonc2002 on August 09, 2016, 06:00:25 PM
I should probably listen to "janet" again
The only Janet albums that I REALLY have played out are VR, RN, Unbreakable, and control
That's The Way Love Goes
If
Again
Anytime Anyplace
Even though she said she wished she recorded more songs for it
That era>>>>>>>>>
Bey kinda has their minds
:plzstop:
But yeah it's 2016 and Jans is kinda well
DONZ
:feelinmyself:
So is that door frame
Quote from: Capricorn King on August 09, 2016, 06:40:10 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on August 09, 2016, 06:00:25 PM
I should probably listen to "janet" again
The only Janet albums that I REALLY have played out are VR, RN, Unbreakable, and control
That's The Way Love Goes
If
Again
Anytime Anyplace
:gorlonfire: :gorlonfire: :gorlonfire:
And that fucking leg
Rickets faggot
Don't me us call immigration for your chalupa looking ass
Quote from: Capricorn King on August 09, 2016, 06:40:10 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on August 09, 2016, 06:00:25 PM
I should probably listen to "janet" again
The only Janet albums that I REALLY have played out are VR, RN, Unbreakable, and control
That's The Way Love Goes
If
Again
Anytime Anyplace
Even though she said she wished she recorded more songs for it
That era>>>>>>>>>
I agree that the era was iconic but I was WOWED by the album like that. I did like some of it of course. Anytime, Anyplace is one of my favorite songs ever. I never REALLY liked "Again", oscar nominated self
sbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb
Who said niece looked like a letter "K" :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:
Quote from: Chokeme on August 09, 2016, 06:41:31 PM
Bey kinda has their minds
:plzstop:
:feelinmyself:
she has yours hun'
Your the first and only one storming in here with a 'oh but!!' Mess
Quote from: Vonc2002 on August 09, 2016, 06:43:29 PM
Quote from: Capricorn King on August 09, 2016, 06:40:10 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on August 09, 2016, 06:00:25 PM
I should probably listen to "janet" again
The only Janet albums that I REALLY have played out are VR, RN, Unbreakable, and control
That's The Way Love Goes
If
Again
Anytime Anyplace
Even though she said she wished she recorded more songs for it
That era>>>>>>>>>
I agree that the era was iconic but I was WOWED by the album like that. I did like some of it of course. Anytime, Anyplace is one of my favorite songs ever. I never REALLY liked "Again", oscar nominated self
well you def need to listen to it again
The video's, tour and the performances>>>>>
Damita Jo is underrated
Lots of baby making music
Quote from: MΛΥDΛΥ on August 09, 2016, 06:43:56 PM
sbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb
Who said niece looked like a letter "K" :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:
dhjkdncvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv'f
fdev
May omfg
QuoteControl has been honored by several music publication in recognition of its impact on the recording industry, including "Rolling Stone's 100 Best Albums of the Eighties"
Q magazine's "100 Women Who Rock The World", Slant Magazine's "Vital Pop: 50 Essential Pop Albums",and "Best Albums of the '80s"
Vibe magazine's "100 Essential Albums of the 20th Century" and "The Unfaceable 51", and the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame's "The Definitive 200: Top 200 Albums of All-Time".
The Guardian described the album's release as one of the 50 key events in the history of R&B and hip hop. Upon the 30th anniversary of the album's release, Julian Kimble of Billboard magazine wrote: "In hindsight, Control is both evolutionary and revolutionary. As Jackson?s first album to land atop the Billboard 200, it marked professional and personal breakthroughs. Distancing herself from the immense Jackson family shadow, she created one of the most influential projects across contemporary R&B and pop music. And not only was Jackson?s maiden voyage with producers Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis at the forefront of R&B, pop and hip-hop?s intersection, it birthed a novel sound in the process."
MTV's Meaghan Garvey asserted "it?s hard to overstate the significance of Control, whether in terms of the pop landscape, the evolution of the music video as a vessel for promotion and expression, or Top 40 feminist anthems." She also argued "it?s important to note that Control?s self-actualization anthems were expressions of black female pride. Control spawned a whopping six videos?great ones, at that?which played an immeasurable role in the shift toward visible black pop."
Gerrick D. Kennedy of Los Angeles Times wrote that Jackson's continued influence is evident in the careers of Rihanna, Beyonce, Ciara, FKA Twigs and Tinashe in that "all of them take cues from Jackson's blueprint. And all that began with 'Control'."
This impact
And this was only the breakthrough album :plzstop:
QuoteJanet Jackson postponed several European tour dates because poor ticket sales meant she was "about to badly flop", according to reports.
The singer announced this week (08Mar16) that she would be postponing all her U.K. dates of her Unbreakable World Tour, along with some concerts in mainland Europe. However, the news that ticket holders were being given refunds led to the assumption the shows have been cancelled rather than just rescheduled.
(http://31.media.tumblr.com/177d515239924a1134598295133c86d1/tumblr_mskuyezkSn1rk96voo1_500.gif)
Quote from: Chokeme on August 09, 2016, 06:57:40 PM
Quote
Rickets is a condition that affects bone development in children. It causes the bones to become soft and weak, which can lead to bone deformities.
(http://31.media.tumblr.com/177d515239924a1134598295133c86d1/tumblr_mskuyezkSn1rk96voo1_500.gif)
ggggggggg
This fag is so desperate :dead:
QuoteJanet Jackson Unbreakable Sales Plummet 74% in 2nd week!
Janet's UNBREAKABLE album sales have cratered in its 2nd week of sales by 74%.
Album is down to #8 on Billboard. Album is down to #18 on iTunes. Disappointing sales have Jackson camp scrambling!
(http://i52.tinypic.com/2ywtmrs.jpg)
baph, drais, somebody plz quote one of richard's post and ki
one letter will suffice
Quote from: Capricorn King on August 09, 2016, 06:59:57 PM
Quote from: Chokeme on August 09, 2016, 06:57:40 PM
Quote
Rickets is a condition that affects bone development in children. It causes the bones to become soft and weak, which can lead to bone deformities.
(http://31.media.tumblr.com/177d515239924a1134598295133c86d1/tumblr_mskuyezkSn1rk96voo1_500.gif)
ggggggggg
XXZXXCCCCCCCV
Quote"She was about to flop, badly. When an artist cancels an entire leg or postpones pieces of the tour, the real reason is because they?re not selling,? the source said, adding, ?It?s better to cancel than play a room that?s half-filled, especially if you?re Janet Jackson"
(http://s7.favim.com/orig/150630/beauty-beyonce-knowles-cute-gif-Favim.com-2872684.gif)
Chard ur crumbling
QuoteMadge said, ?IYou don?t have to show nipples to be interesting and it doesn?t necessarily mean you?re cutting edge if you do right??
The way the industry lost all respect for ha :stressed:
Label bosses fear lack of 'hit songs' could make Beyonc?'s new album a huge chart flopQuoteShe's not had an album out for almost three years and her last two singles failed to make the Top Ten.So it's little wonder her record label bosses are starting to worry about the success of Beyonc?'s upcoming new album.
Reports today have claimed that executives at Columbia
The way they predicted this flop :stressed:
Quote?Sasha Fierce? quickly surpassed 1.46 million units in sales after its first six weeks of availability ? a total that ?4? has yet to match after more than five months.
And yet it debuted at #1 selling over 600k, gaining VMA and Emmy Noms
And becoming her most successful tour
Lol?
The way Justin went on to become an even bigger star while Jans titty was left flapping in the winds
(http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/1-31-2014/0gQUmh.gif)
:stressed:
this was 4 not lemonade.........lemonade will sell LESS :plzstop:
Yet has already sold more than Jans last 2 albums combined
:plzstop:
Janet's last album before unbreakable is platinum and unbreakable is the album of a 50 yr old woman. is that Beyonce's competition now? I thought she was "queen". she should not be competing with the Adeles and Taylors who are the REAL queens of music rn :kii:
50 year old crippled, Jans
Not fair
N
Which bitch DON'T y'all compare to Bey?
Now Jans is exempt because she's 50?
BTW it was u fags that brought Bey up in the 1st place :plzstop:
i hate she called her mess "Unbreakable", such a basic title. "Conversations in a Caf?" would have been much more edgy and artsy.
!!!!!!!!
And it made it sound that much more corny when it flopped
Quote from: Magnolia Maymuru on August 09, 2016, 08:45:06 PM
i hate she called her mess "Unbreakable", such a basic title. "Conversations in a Caf?" would have been much more edgy and artsy.
yea, I really wanted that
nothing is as corny and dumb as "lemonade" tho. when someone aint thinking and writing for that hoe, she shows how basic she actually is
another thread and this nigga is talking just to be talking. Great.
(http://i42.tinypic.com/33z8vmt.jpg)
Quote from: Baphomet. on August 09, 2016, 08:52:50 PM
another thread and this nigga is talking just to be talking. Great.
(http://i42.tinypic.com/33z8vmt.jpg)
Yeah, you need to collect your sis, Richard/Choke and take her back to the Hive Headquarters for a crash course in how to properly troll.
She's an embarrassment tbh.
(http://i42.tinypic.com/33z8vmt.jpg)
Quote from: ANIMMAI on August 09, 2016, 08:55:05 PM
Quote from: Baphomet. on August 09, 2016, 08:52:50 PM
another thread and this nigga is talking just to be talking. Great.
(http://i42.tinypic.com/33z8vmt.jpg)
Yeah, you need to collect your sis, Richard/Choke and take her back to the Hive Headquarters for a crash course in how to properly troll.
She's an embarrassment tbh.
(http://i42.tinypic.com/33z8vmt.jpg)
df
fd
gg
I was talking about Voncs thug ass. But my sis Choke' can be ver' Hyper at times. She just loves Bey so much. ❤❤
She just needs to chill sometimes and he's good.
(http://i42.tinypic.com/33z8vmt.jpg)
Why was Bey brought up?
Anyways, love this album. Janet really should be talked about like Michael, Prince, and Madonna. She really was an exceptional artist.
I was just shocked the mess came out in the 80s it seems like forever since she was on top
And as usual the girls had to bring Bey up, can't stay on topic
(http://i42.tinypic.com/33z8vmt.jpg)
when did u think Janet's real first album came out, dummy. contrary to popular belief every album isnt a debut
It just seems like forever since Jans was IT
Since I was a kid I remember her flopping and being a joke in the industry
(http://i42.tinypic.com/33z8vmt.jpg)
Bhhhh he has more posts in here than the jans
Wtf
Quote from: Capricorn King on August 09, 2016, 09:21:12 PM
Bhhhh he has more posts in here than the jans
Wtf
A LAME :dead:
If he only he took this much effort to straighten out that leg
Can Li move ha... nm
Woo!
Her shyness juxtaposed with this aggressive performance jjjjjjjjjj
Quote from: Chokeme on August 09, 2016, 09:05:39 PM
I was just shocked the mess came out in the 80s it seems like forever since she was on top
And as usual the girls had to bring Bey up, can't stay on topic
(http://i42.tinypic.com/33z8vmt.jpg)
bby, Janz is legendary. Let them praise her a bit!!!!
Quote from: Capricorn King on August 09, 2016, 09:32:26 PM
Her shyness juxtaposed with this aggressive performance jjjjjjjjjj
When I think about her career...how to break almost every record? How to open the door for other girls? All them damn awards! When I went to the unbreakable tour and saw them Grammys, amas, the video and tour outfits, the original screenplay for Poetic Justice...I said...she is iconic. :uhh:
LegendNET
Quote from: Vonc2002 on August 09, 2016, 05:53:50 PM
AND THIS! :gorlonfire:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCUn22BFmBc
sexy bitch
now fucking WAIT
What in the Enya/Brandy hell
:gorlonfire:
Quote from: Chokeme on August 09, 2016, 09:23:42 PM
Can Li move ha... nm
lets keep it the fuck cute, retard
Quote from: Rig's on August 10, 2016, 03:59:30 AM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on August 09, 2016, 05:53:50 PM
AND THIS! :gorlonfire:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCUn22BFmBc
sexy bitch
now fucking WAIT
What in the Enya/Brandy hell
:gorlonfire:
her and Kellz know how to make some fucking baby making music
:ohwow: