Looking at their discography I thought they had like 10 albums :plzstop:
Backstreet Boys has 8 albums and Nsync seems bigger for some reason
:omgwatshappening:
Quote from: Chokeme on August 22, 2016, 10:17:38 AM
Backstreet Boys has 8 albums
I'm actually more shocked by this
They were never bigger and their vocals could never book Backstreet Boys.
v
Quote from: GoDiegoGo on August 22, 2016, 10:21:41 AM
They were never bigger and their vocals could never book Backstreet Boys.
Boy please, they weren't HARDLY singers. I remember listening to an interview and somebody asked Rodney Jerkins who was easier to work with in the studio. Rodney kinda played Backstreet and those barely there vocals :kii:
I never liked bsb for that very reason. I liked a few songs but Nsync kinda sang. JC's vocals >>>>>ANYONE in that other shit group
Tuh they are both late groups, but BSB's harmonies SAT NSYNC easily
f
Well, they were only hot for a few years. I think BSB put out a lot of albums even after their popularity went down.
Both groups manager Lou Pearlman died in prison the 2 days ago.
Quote from: The Brandy Barbie on August 22, 2016, 10:39:41 AM
Well, they were only hot for a few years. I think BSB put out a lot of albums even after their popularity went down.
Yea, Nsync went out on top. BSB continued even when they weren't in demand and it was pathetic. Didn't they merge with NKOTB at one point :dead:
:plzstop: Von are you a superFAN?
I have every Nsync album tbfhwy :nowgorl:
BSB is WAY bigger than nsync, tbh if it wasn't for Justin and their little song with nelly I probably wouldn't even know them like that.
BSB overall vocal > Nsync
Nsnyc slayed. Celebrity alone>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Hell, JC's vocals alone>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Quote from: Magnolia Maymuru on August 22, 2016, 10:50:25 AM
BSB is WAY bigger than nsync, tbh if it wasn't for Justin and their little song with nelly I probably wouldn't even know them like that.
BSB overall vocal > Nsync
Boy. :plzstop: No. :uhh:
Bsb was bigger even tho they were both huge so when u get to that level its all MEH. Nsync still holds the record for selling like over 2 million albums their first week, right? LOLZ! And anyone who said BSB sings better is just plain stupid, sorry :dead:
I admire Nsync for stopping while they were at the height of their careers. Tears at BSB in their 50s putting out shitty albums
JC WAS Nsync vocally
Justin was the face
they weren't better than BSB as a group
BSB catalogue is iconic and even when they came back they had classics
"I Just Want You To Know">>>>>
Umm JC AND JT>>>>>>> :uhh:
I don't agree that Justin was just the face and JC was the voice. JC sat Justin vocally but Justin was still the "voice" of NStink
Quote from: L0NZ. on August 22, 2016, 11:12:26 AM
I don't agree that Justin was just the face and JC was the voice. JC sat Justin vocally but Justin was still the "voice" of NStink
Yup!
JT was the voice and JC was the "kelly" (2nd lead vocal)
Quote from: .betterwiseup on August 22, 2016, 10:39:45 AM
Both groups manager Lou Pearlman died in prison the 2 days ago.
Yeah it's kinda what made me do a lil research
Backstreet Boys (1996)
Backstreet's Back (1997)
Millennium (1999)
Black & Blue (2000)
Never Gone (2005)
Unbreakable (2007)
This Is Us (2009)
In a World Like This (2013)
TBA (2016)
:plzstop:
Quote from: Vonc2002 on August 22, 2016, 10:30:52 AM
Quote from: GoDiegoGo on August 22, 2016, 10:21:41 AM
They were never bigger and their vocals could never book Backstreet Boys.
Boy please, they weren't HARDLY singers. I remember listening to an interview and somebody asked Rodney Jerkins who was easier to work with in the studio. Rodney kinda played Backstreet and those barely there vocals :kii:
I never liked bsb for that very reason. I liked a few songs but Nsync kinda sang. JC's vocals >>>>>ANYONE in that other shit group
i wished the group was JC (lead) , AJ and Brian those 3 vocals >>>>
JC was my fave member from Nsync from school days...plus he was so sexy :stressed:
ffff Am sorry but are y'all the fuck OK? BSB's harmonies SHAT all over NSYNC's. The group's arrangements probably had NSYNC in tears :plzstop:
JC sang, but it was a group :dead: not a solo project
AJ's voice was disgusting. All he did was yell out songs, terrible
Quote from: GoDiegoGo on August 22, 2016, 11:31:36 AM
ffff Am sorry but are y'all the fuck OK? BSB's harmonies SHAT all over NSYNC's. The group's arrangements probably had NSYNC in tears :plzstop:
JC sang, but it was a group :dead: not a solo project
Nsync harmonies slays BSB when they're serious...sometimes BSB use to layer their harmonies :dead:
Quote from: Vonc2002 on August 22, 2016, 11:32:13 AM
AJ's voice was disgusting. All he did was yell out songs, terrible
n
the beckys use to think he had a powerhouse voice back in the days in college :dead:
Once they saw Justin's looks caught on most
they pushed his vocals to the lead; hes got It factor
But he didn't start there just on voice alone
Without JC, they kinda ran neck and neck with the other boy bands
Quote from: LiBra on August 22, 2016, 11:32:44 AM
Quote from: GoDiegoGo on August 22, 2016, 11:31:36 AM
ffff Am sorry but are y'all the fuck OK? BSB's harmonies SHAT all over NSYNC's. The group's arrangements probably had NSYNC in tears :plzstop:
JC sang, but it was a group :dead: not a solo project
Nsync harmonies slays BSB when they're serious...sometimes BSB use to layer their harmonies :dead:
Honestly no one from that other group was a good singer imhfo. Anytime Nick Carter is leading songs :dead:
I guess Brian's voice was OK
AJ shat on Joey and Chris. He had a...HUSKY tone :plzstop:
Yeah Nsync is bigger
When they reunite for mess it's kind of an EVENT
Quote from: .betterwiseup on August 22, 2016, 10:39:45 AM
Both groups manager Lou Pearlman died in prison the 2 days ago.
Wow... I heard that dude was shady , though.
Quote from: Vonc2002 on August 22, 2016, 11:34:44 AM
Quote from: LiBra on August 22, 2016, 11:32:44 AM
Quote from: GoDiegoGo on August 22, 2016, 11:31:36 AM
ffff Am sorry but are y'all the fuck OK? BSB's harmonies SHAT all over NSYNC's. The group's arrangements probably had NSYNC in tears :plzstop:
JC sang, but it was a group :dead: not a solo project
Nsync harmonies slays BSB when they're serious...sometimes BSB use to layer their harmonies :dead:
Honestly no one from that other group was a good singer imhfo. Anytime Nick Carter is leading songs :dead:
I guess Brian's voice was OK
i liked Brian voice Nick voice was a male version of Britney all that damn nasal shit :plzstop:
Quote from: Vonc2002 on August 22, 2016, 11:34:44 AM
Quote from: LiBra on August 22, 2016, 11:32:44 AM
Quote from: GoDiegoGo on August 22, 2016, 11:31:36 AM
ffff Am sorry but are y'all the fuck OK? BSB's harmonies SHAT all over NSYNC's. The group's arrangements probably had NSYNC in tears :plzstop:
JC sang, but it was a group :dead: not a solo project
Nsync harmonies slays BSB when they're serious...sometimes BSB use to layer their harmonies :dead:
Honestly no one from that other group was a good singer imhfo. Anytime Nick Carter is leading songs :dead:
I guess Brian's voice was OK
Now I will say, individually, I preferred NSYNC's lead singers. But collectively, they could never
Nsync harmonies>>>>>>>BSB
Quote from: GoDiegoGo on August 22, 2016, 11:36:24 AM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on August 22, 2016, 11:34:44 AM
Quote from: LiBra on August 22, 2016, 11:32:44 AM
Quote from: GoDiegoGo on August 22, 2016, 11:31:36 AM
ffff Am sorry but are y'all the fuck OK? BSB's harmonies SHAT all over NSYNC's. The group's arrangements probably had NSYNC in tears :plzstop:
JC sang, but it was a group :dead: not a solo project
Nsync harmonies slays BSB when they're serious...sometimes BSB use to layer their harmonies :dead:
Honestly no one from that other group was a good singer imhfo. Anytime Nick Carter is leading songs :dead:
I guess Brian's voice was OK
Now I will say, individually, I preferred NSYNC's lead singers. But collectively, they could never
Honestly, ur fckn delusional :dead:
Now I'll give u they sold more albums but ummmm nsync was definitely more talented. .......And they performed better too. I can't even remember a bsb performance. Nsync used to kill.
s
why was he in prison
Quote from: Vonc2002 on August 22, 2016, 11:38:53 AM
Quote from: GoDiegoGo on August 22, 2016, 11:36:24 AM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on August 22, 2016, 11:34:44 AM
Quote from: LiBra on August 22, 2016, 11:32:44 AM
Quote from: GoDiegoGo on August 22, 2016, 11:31:36 AM
ffff Am sorry but are y'all the fuck OK? BSB's harmonies SHAT all over NSYNC's. The group's arrangements probably had NSYNC in tears :plzstop:
JC sang, but it was a group :dead: not a solo project
Nsync harmonies slays BSB when they're serious...sometimes BSB use to layer their harmonies :dead:
Honestly no one from that other group was a good singer imhfo. Anytime Nick Carter is leading songs :dead:
I guess Brian's voice was OK
Now I will say, individually, I preferred NSYNC's lead singers. But collectively, they could never
Honestly, ur fckn delusional :dead:
Now I'll give u they sold more albums but ummmm nsync was definitely more talented. .......And they performed better too. I can't even remember a bsb performance. Nsync used to kill.
Nsync were beasts live...i went to BSB concert and it was cool they were more focus on being SANGERS but it wasn't that deep but they kinda slayed
Quote from: Nice Stereo. on August 22, 2016, 11:39:14 AM
s
why was he in prison
Lou was shady as hell he included himself as a sixth member of BSB to make additional money for himself :plzstop:
Yea, that fat faggot was disgusting. Wasnt he a perv also?
B2K kinda slayed em all :ohwow:
Individually JC and JT are the best of all
two groups combined. But as a whole BSB>>>
I had a big crush on Kevin from BSB
Yeah didn't he touch Lance and Justin?
:omgwatshappening:
Quote from: Vonc2002 on August 22, 2016, 11:43:42 AM
Yea, that fat faggot was disgusting. Wasnt he a perv also?
yes he was lolz
Quote from: L0NZ. on August 22, 2016, 11:47:34 AM
I had a big crush on Kevin from BSB
yea he was my fave from the group
How was Kevin ur fav? He didn't do shit :dead:
Quote from: Vonc2002 on August 22, 2016, 11:49:49 AM
How was Kevin ur fav? He didn't do shit :dead:
cause he was sexy and stood out :stressed: and he sang solo at concerts his flat bass tone >>>> AJ :gorlonfire:
Quote from: Vonc2002 on August 22, 2016, 11:49:49 AM
How was Kevin ur fav? He didn't do shit :dead:
AT FUCKIN' ALL
!!!!!!!!!!!
Quote from: GoDiegoGo on August 22, 2016, 11:31:36 AM
ffff Am sorry but are y'all the fuck OK? BSB's harmonies SHAT all over NSYNC's. The group's arrangements probably had NSYNC in tears :plzstop:
JC sang, but it was a group :dead: not a solo project
What song in particular shows this BSB harmony?
Kevin was/is fine as FUCK
Clean your fucking ear luvs. And wake the fuck up. BSB >>>>
Quote from: GoDiegoGo on August 22, 2016, 11:54:19 AM
Clean your fucking ear luvs. And wake the fuck up. BSB >>>>
f
Post the bsb song that's giving these vocals and harmony. Ur taste is SHIT bby LOLZ!
fff I said what I said Von. This ain't no damn debate.
ddf and that vocal ain't cute
They had my sis looking like Ellen Back then
(http://www.etonline.com/news/2015/10/24183706/set_nsync_2015_lance_bass.jpg)
Whoever sang "I Want it That Way"....that group>>>
Quote from: Chokeme on August 22, 2016, 11:57:04 AM
They had my sis looking like Ellen Back then
(http://www.etonline.com/news/2015/10/24183706/set_nsync_2015_lance_bass.jpg)
He is such a damn cutie now
Quote from: Chokeme on August 22, 2016, 11:57:04 AM
They had my sis looking like Ellen Back then
(http://www.etonline.com/news/2015/10/24183706/set_nsync_2015_lance_bass.jpg)
s
I don't see where the changes at
Quote from: Don Draper on August 22, 2016, 11:57:26 AM
Whoever sang "I Want it That Way"....that group>>>
:udontlookok:
Quote from: Don Draper on August 22, 2016, 11:57:26 AM
Whoever sang "I Want it That Way"....that group>>>
pretty much.
Quote from: Chokeme on August 22, 2016, 11:57:04 AM
They had my sis looking like Ellen Back then
(http://www.etonline.com/news/2015/10/24183706/set_nsync_2015_lance_bass.jpg)
c Im sure that was his choice
As quiet as its kept Lance slays Justin from time to time
Quote from: Nice Stereo. on August 22, 2016, 11:59:45 AM
Quote from: Don Draper on August 22, 2016, 11:57:26 AM
Whoever sang "I Want it That Way"....that group>>>
:udontlookok:
I was never into the boy band shit but I liked that one song, so they win :receipts:
Quote from: Vonc2002 on August 22, 2016, 11:55:24 AM
Quote from: GoDiegoGo on August 22, 2016, 11:54:19 AM
Clean your fucking ear luvs. And wake the fuck up. BSB >>>>
f
Post the bsb song that's giving these vocals and harmony. Ur taste is SHIT bby LOLZ!
Lemme just.......
the things Lance mustve seen backstage
ommmmmmm
:jarvwhereru:
Quote from: Uni on August 22, 2016, 11:59:49 AM
Quote from: Don Draper on August 22, 2016, 11:57:26 AM
Whoever sang "I Want it That Way"....that group>>>
pretty much.
BSB had way more iconic songs too, like their records are classic...
NSYNC always made music that was hot at the moment, and JT's voice makes them sound dated and trendy...
Quote from: The Brandy Barbie on August 22, 2016, 11:53:19 AM
Quote from: GoDiegoGo on August 22, 2016, 11:31:36 AM
ffff Am sorry but are y'all the fuck OK? BSB's harmonies SHAT all over NSYNC's. The group's arrangements probably had NSYNC in tears :plzstop:
JC sang, but it was a group :dead: not a solo project
What song in particular shows this BSB harmony?
Probably that song The Call when they do this church like harmonies during the bridge :dead:
Quote from: Vonc2002 on August 22, 2016, 11:55:24 AM
Quote from: GoDiegoGo on August 22, 2016, 11:54:19 AM
Clean your fucking ear luvs. And wake the fuck up. BSB >>>>
f
Post the bsb song that's giving these vocals and harmony. Ur taste is SHIT bby LOLZ!
This song is hot. Never heard it before, but it's very r&b.
Lou Pearlman also did US5, their song with Ray J in the vidya >>>>>
RIP King of boy bands
Quote from: LiBra on August 22, 2016, 12:02:31 PM
Quote from: The Brandy Barbie on August 22, 2016, 11:53:19 AM
Quote from: GoDiegoGo on August 22, 2016, 11:31:36 AM
ffff Am sorry but are y'all the fuck OK? BSB's harmonies SHAT all over NSYNC's. The group's arrangements probably had NSYNC in tears :plzstop:
JC sang, but it was a group :dead: not a solo project
What song in particular shows this BSB harmony?
Probably that song The Call when they do this church like harmonies during the bridge :dead:
I did like that and maybe one other. I hated all their big songs, SUPER corny
backstreets back, ALRIGHT! :udontlookok:
Quote from: Vonc2002 on August 22, 2016, 12:04:28 PM
Quote from: LiBra on August 22, 2016, 12:02:31 PM
Quote from: The Brandy Barbie on August 22, 2016, 11:53:19 AM
Quote from: GoDiegoGo on August 22, 2016, 11:31:36 AM
ffff Am sorry but are y'all the fuck OK? BSB's harmonies SHAT all over NSYNC's. The group's arrangements probably had NSYNC in tears :plzstop:
JC sang, but it was a group :dead: not a solo project
What song in particular shows this BSB harmony?
Probably that song The Call when they do this church like harmonies during the bridge :dead:
I did like that and maybe one other. I hated all their big songs, SUPER corny
backstreets back, ALRIGHT!
:udontlookok:
!!
:plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:
Quote from: The Brandy Barbie on August 22, 2016, 12:02:59 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on August 22, 2016, 11:55:24 AM
Quote from: GoDiegoGo on August 22, 2016, 11:54:19 AM
Clean your fucking ear luvs. And wake the fuck up. BSB >>>>
f
Post the bsb song that's giving these vocals and harmony. Ur taste is SHIT bby LOLZ!
This song is hot. Never heard it before, but it's very r&b.
And that's why they kill them. They actually sing and with a bit of Blue eyed soul. Those flat ass Christian rock vocals from BSB could NEVER :dead:
WAIT "The Call" remix was dope
i love this Oops! I Did It Again reject album track :dead:
:gorlonfire:
not fucking christian rock vocals :plzstop:
Quote from: LiBra on August 22, 2016, 12:10:20 PM
not fucking christian rock vocals :plzstop:
I'm crying because it's accurate nnnn
Yea, even GONE shits on any bsb vocal
ddf Gone, indeed.
Gone >>>>>>>>> anything AIDStreetboys ever recorded
Quote from: Magnolia Maymuru on August 22, 2016, 12:12:17 PM
Quote from: LiBra on August 22, 2016, 12:10:20 PM
not fucking christian rock vocals :plzstop:
I'm crying because it's accurate nnnn
i know when listening to the songs now he's right :plzstop:
Quote from: Kurama on August 22, 2016, 12:38:56 PM
Quote from: GoDiegoGo on August 22, 2016, 11:53:28 AM
Kevin was/is fine as FUCK
Whew!
at 40
(http://www.at40.com/cimages/var/plain_site/storage/images/repository/news/music-news/kevin-richardson-will-be-appearing-with-the-backstreet-boys/179199-1-eng-US/Kevin-Richardson-Will-Be-Appearing-with-The-Backstreet-Boys.jpg)
:flamebroiled: :flamebroiled: :flamebroiled:
his younger days
(https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQR1c8igLYnPlo1kfpPsF8t8AJ47n1yG0F3TVE6e2qknj1Z2kkP)
I disagree about the BSB still making albums thing. Who wouldn't want to continue doing what they love for as long as they can? Those albums may not make a lot of money, but those tours with NKOTB sell out big arenas. I know they're making a good money on tour and I don't blame them for taking the opportunity.
NSync probably doesn't 'to have much of a choice. Justin wants a solo career, and he basically is NSync.
Quote from: GoDiegoGo on August 22, 2016, 11:53:28 AM
Kevin was/is fine as FUCK
dhdudhd !!
Am mean, simple as that tbrfh.
fifth these pictures y'all choose
Quote from: LiBra on August 22, 2016, 12:41:54 PM
Quote from: Kurama on August 22, 2016, 12:38:56 PM
Quote from: GoDiegoGo on August 22, 2016, 11:53:28 AM
Kevin was/is fine as FUCK
Whew!
at 40
(http://www.at40.com/cimages/var/plain_site/storage/images/repository/news/music-news/kevin-richardson-will-be-appearing-with-the-backstreet-boys/179199-1-eng-US/Kevin-Richardson-Will-Be-Appearing-with-The-Backstreet-Boys.jpg)
:flamebroiled: :flamebroiled: :flamebroiled:
his younger days
(https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQR1c8igLYnPlo1kfpPsF8t8AJ47n1yG0F3TVE6e2qknj1Z2kkP)
(http://i.imgur.com/gb9rRpy.gif)
:dead:
Yeah umm sync > bareback boys
Backstreet boys felt like Burger King while Nsync gave McDonalds. I guess its because Nsync was more current with their style and success.
n
(http://img.wennermedia.com/480-width/1335807307_kevin-richardson-lg.jpg)
These thin ass lips
Quote from: Hazeleyes on August 22, 2016, 03:18:51 PM
Backstreet boys felt like Burger King while Nsync gave McDonalds. I guess its because Nsync was more current with their style and success.
Is McDonalds supposed to be the edgier brand here? :uhh:
wow
didnt know there were so many bsb/nsync fans
Quote from: Don Draper on August 22, 2016, 11:57:26 AM
Whoever sang "I Want it That Way"....that group>>>
Yea Cus I can't tell the fckn diff tbh
And whoever sang "Bye Bye Bye"
I just know one has JT & a gay I think that's Nsync
Quote from: LiBra on August 22, 2016, 12:41:54 PM
Quote from: Kurama on August 22, 2016, 12:38:56 PM
Quote from: GoDiegoGo on August 22, 2016, 11:53:28 AM
Kevin was/is fine as FUCK
Whew!
at 40
(http://www.at40.com/cimages/var/plain_site/storage/images/repository/news/music-news/kevin-richardson-will-be-appearing-with-the-backstreet-boys/179199-1-eng-US/Kevin-Richardson-Will-Be-Appearing-with-The-Backstreet-Boys.jpg)
:flamebroiled: :flamebroiled: :flamebroiled:
his younger days
(https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQR1c8igLYnPlo1kfpPsF8t8AJ47n1yG0F3TVE6e2qknj1Z2kkP)
EW :uhh:
Quote from: Kaeli. on August 22, 2016, 03:26:42 PM
Quote from: Don Draper on August 22, 2016, 11:57:26 AM
Whoever sang "I Want it That Way"....that group>>>
I just know one has JT & a gay I think that's Nsync
:cheerup: welp, that about sums it up ffff
AND Kevin's talking voice is sexy too :flamebroiled:
Quote from: GoDiegoGo on August 22, 2016, 03:28:10 PM
Quote from: Kaeli. on August 22, 2016, 03:26:42 PM
Quote from: Don Draper on August 22, 2016, 11:57:26 AM
Whoever sang "I Want it That Way"....that group>>>
I just know one has JT & a gay I think that's Nsync
:cheerup: welp, that about sums it up ffff
b
And I don't know any of the. backseat boys
Quote from: Kaeli. on August 22, 2016, 03:29:23 PM
Quote from: GoDiegoGo on August 22, 2016, 03:28:10 PM
Quote from: Kaeli. on August 22, 2016, 03:26:42 PM
Quote from: Don Draper on August 22, 2016, 11:57:26 AM
Whoever sang "I Want it That Way"....that group>>>
I just know one has JT & a gay I think that's Nsync
:cheerup: welp, that about sums it up ffff
b
And I don't know any of the. backseat boys
sdddddddddddddd
Diego slow self thought u were a fellow Backskeet
Wait the BSB sing I want it that way :diddraispoot:
Thought that was Nsync this whole time
Quote from: Vonc2002 on August 22, 2016, 03:30:55 PM
Quote from: Kaeli. on August 22, 2016, 03:29:23 PM
Quote from: GoDiegoGo on August 22, 2016, 03:28:10 PM
Quote from: Kaeli. on August 22, 2016, 03:26:42 PM
Quote from: Don Draper on August 22, 2016, 11:57:26 AM
Whoever sang "I Want it That Way"....that group>>>
I just know one has JT & a gay I think that's Nsync
:cheerup: welp, that about sums it up ffff
b
And I don't know any of the. backseat boys
sdddddddddddddd
Diego slow self thought u were a fellow Backskeet
klksksjdnemsj
Quote from: Vonc2002 on August 22, 2016, 03:30:55 PM
Quote from: Kaeli. on August 22, 2016, 03:29:23 PM
Quote from: GoDiegoGo on August 22, 2016, 03:28:10 PM
Quote from: Kaeli. on August 22, 2016, 03:26:42 PM
Quote from: Don Draper on August 22, 2016, 11:57:26 AM
Whoever sang "I Want it That Way"....that group>>>
I just know one has JT & a gay I think that's Nsync
:cheerup: welp, that about sums it up ffff
b
And I don't know any of the. backseat boys
sdddddddddddddd
Diego slow self thought u were a fellow Backskeet
Clearly not bby. He said he couldn't tell the two apart. Try again. :dead:
BSB's music is corny as hell. I preferred NSYNC. They gave vocals and high energy choreo. And their songs are better. BSB had some cute lil tunes tho. They sold more and were more successful cause they came out 1st and released more albums but the talent in NSYNC trumps BSB. The Celebrity album >>>>
Only BSB song I really liked was The Call. They killed that and the music vidya.
Used to think they were the same band lol