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Title: Is this why Tamar last effort flopped?
Post by: DrewBabyLove on September 17, 2016, 02:44:25 PM
Now before we go on, I like Tamar, and I like her music. I'm not trying to shade her, just trying to understand.



Who ever made this video clearly doesn't like her, but they're right.
But did those bad performances block her Grammy and turn off her audience? I think so. I can only think of one good live performance of hers and people say that one was bad. I know I wouldn't pay to see her live and it lowers my interest in her music.

Title: Re: Is this why Tamar last effort flopped?
Post by: Zankou. on September 17, 2016, 02:45:22 PM
Yeah she's horrible live.
Title: Re: Is this why Tamar last effort flopped?
Post by: .betterwiseup on September 17, 2016, 02:47:37 PM
It didn't do well because she didn't promote it.
The album overall was great.
Title: Re: Is this why Tamar last effort flopped?
Post by: Vonc2002 on September 17, 2016, 02:51:10 PM
Tamar is a terrible live singer and her technique is SHIT! I hurt sometimes listening to her perform
Title: Re: Is this why Tamar last effort flopped?
Post by: Vonc2002 on September 17, 2016, 02:52:34 PM
These performances are ATROCIOUS :plzstop:
Title: Re: Is this why Tamar last effort flopped?
Post by: Young on September 17, 2016, 02:52:46 PM
She needs to work on performing

In retrospect she booked tho lol

She didnt even have a hit
Title: Re: Is this why Tamar last effort flopped?
Post by: FRANCE on September 17, 2016, 02:53:54 PM
This was painful to watch. :( Sorry Tay Tay.
Title: Re: Is this why Tamar last effort flopped?
Post by: Vonc2002 on September 17, 2016, 02:55:08 PM
That album was still great tho tbh
Title: Re: Is this why Tamar last effort flopped?
Post by: Opposites Attract. on September 17, 2016, 02:55:12 PM
It didn't do well because she's an evil nasty person.
Title: Re: Is this why Tamar last effort flopped?
Post by: FRANCE on September 17, 2016, 02:56:22 PM
Sold more than a lot of these 20k flops tho.
Title: Re: Is this why Tamar last effort flopped?
Post by: Vonc2002 on September 17, 2016, 02:57:46 PM
Quote from: Margeaux. on September 17, 2016, 02:55:12 PM
It didn't do well because she's an evil nasty person.
This is what i think too. I think people hate tamar and don't really support her. No one outside of her deluded ass "tamartian friends" that is
Title: Re: Is this why Tamar last effort flopped?
Post by: Zankou. on September 17, 2016, 02:57:56 PM
Quote from: Margeaux. on September 17, 2016, 02:55:12 PM
It didn't do well because she's an evil nasty person.
Title: Re: Is this why Tamar last effort flopped?
Post by: Young on September 17, 2016, 03:00:11 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on September 17, 2016, 02:55:08 PM
That album was still great tho tbh
Title: Re: Is this why Tamar last effort flopped?
Post by: Opposites Attract. on September 17, 2016, 03:03:18 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on September 17, 2016, 02:57:46 PM
Quote from: Margeaux. on September 17, 2016, 02:55:12 PM
It didn't do well because she's an evil nasty person.
This is what i think too. I think people hate tamar and don't really support her. No one outside of her deluded ass "tamartian friends" that is
Her whole thing was a fluke. BFV get like 1.12m views per episode, T&V gets 0.345m there is just no way
Title: Re: Is this why Tamar last effort flopped?
Post by: Opposites Attract. on September 17, 2016, 03:03:50 PM
Quote from: Young on September 17, 2016, 03:00:11 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on September 17, 2016, 02:55:08 PM
That album was still great tho tbh

Her best, the best released that year tbh
Title: Re: Is this why Tamar last effort flopped?
Post by: Lazarus on September 17, 2016, 03:08:58 PM
Quote from: Margeaux. on September 17, 2016, 02:55:12 PM
It didn't do well because she's an evil nasty person.
Title: Re: Is this why Tamar last effort flopped?
Post by: yummy on September 17, 2016, 03:11:21 PM
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Title: Re: Is this why Tamar last effort flopped?
Post by: b7 on September 17, 2016, 03:12:18 PM
she definitely promoted it :dead: she just stopped after the first week sales came through

not sure where that narrative came from. But TC on "Never" and "Broken record" >>>

Amazing
Title: Re: Is this why Tamar last effort flopped?
Post by: MelMel on September 17, 2016, 03:15:08 PM
wow yeah she's terrible
Title: Re: Is this why Tamar last effort flopped?
Post by: Zankou. on September 17, 2016, 03:16:02 PM
Broken record is one of my favorite songs period
Title: Re: Is this why Tamar last effort flopped?
Post by: Myron on September 17, 2016, 03:49:58 PM
Broken Record is a gorgeous song.. I love it. Alll the way home, Pieces.. Tamar has some great rnb cuts.

and yes Tamar needs Vocal lessons from an excellent teacher for a good year... and then maybe once a week for the rest of her career.

Her instrument is gorgeous.. she just needs to learn how to play it better
Title: Re: Is this why Tamar last effort flopped?
Post by: Annie on September 17, 2016, 03:55:59 PM
Wow I didn't realize that she had some trouble during her live performances. I've seen how horrible those outfits were..They are clearly copied from some of Bey's most iconic looks :uhh: it is kinda sad because her voice on BFV, T&V and on the albums is actually really amazing. I agree with you guys that she killed Broken Record. All the way home is also amazing.
Title: Re: Is this why Tamar last effort flopped?
Post by: Annie on September 17, 2016, 03:56:53 PM
She is one of the few artists who can kill the national anthem
Title: Re: Is this why Tamar last effort flopped?
Post by: ♛MANNY♛ on September 17, 2016, 04:25:08 PM
why would performances turn people off from buying....it flopped cause she didn't promote and imo it was horrible + the singles :uhh:
Title: Re: Is this why Tamar last effort flopped?
Post by: MelMel on September 17, 2016, 04:31:50 PM
And she sucks lolol
Title: Re: Is this why Tamar last effort flopped?
Post by: D.I.E.G.O. on September 17, 2016, 04:55:24 PM
The album was actually good, and there were plenty of single options. Not sure what happened with her promo.
Title: Re: Is this why Tamar last effort flopped?
Post by: Annie on September 17, 2016, 04:57:03 PM

She was probably just too busy.. And decided to focus on tv instead
Kinda like Bran started promoting the Game
:loose2when:
Title: Re: Is this why Tamar last effort flopped?
Post by: Opposites Attract. on September 17, 2016, 04:57:10 PM
Epic decision to not renew her contract played a part as well.
Title: Re: Is this why Tamar last effort flopped?
Post by: BAPHOMET. on September 17, 2016, 05:01:33 PM
She's a horrible artist all around. Bottom line.
Title: Re: Is this why Tamar last effort flopped?
Post by: Young on September 17, 2016, 05:44:13 PM
Quote from: Annie on September 17, 2016, 03:56:53 PM
She is one of the few artists who can kill the national anthem
Title: Re: Is this why Tamar last effort flopped?
Post by: Young on September 17, 2016, 05:45:33 PM
She got sick guys

Don't forget that. Really hurt the era. She wasn't able to tour or anything
Title: Re: Is this why Tamar last effort flopped?
Post by: Opposites Attract. on September 17, 2016, 05:50:08 PM
n

The album came out before she got sick though. She's just an evil person.
Title: Re: Is this why Tamar last effort flopped?
Post by: hotep. on September 17, 2016, 06:28:31 PM
Lord they had it out for her in this one djdjdndn
Title: Re: Is this why Tamar last effort flopped?
Post by: Lazarus on September 17, 2016, 06:57:56 PM
Quote from: Baphomet. on September 17, 2016, 05:01:33 PM
She's a horrible artist all around. Bottom line.
Title: Re: Is this why Tamar last effort flopped?
Post by: 'ology on September 17, 2016, 06:58:19 PM
Never
Broken record
Coming home
Besides sales she put out an amazing album! I love everything except king and that other song free falling.
Oh yea if I don't have u is turrible
Title: Re: Is this why Tamar last effort flopped?
Post by: Mizphit on September 17, 2016, 07:00:13 PM
She just needs to pre-record.
Title: Re: Is this why Tamar last effort flopped?
Post by: FRANCE on September 17, 2016, 07:12:36 PM
The promo for Love and War was way bigger and more extensive than for Calling All Lovers. She was everywhere. Also, L&W and The One were hits and All The Way Home did decent. All the singles for her new album flopped.
Title: Re: Is this why Tamar last effort flopped?
Post by: bynm36 on September 17, 2016, 07:52:47 PM
Even though some of those live performances weren't the best, to me she still sings circles around some of these new kids who rely on lip synching to deliver a performance. 
Title: Re: Is this why Tamar last effort flopped?
Post by: Just Dropped In To See What Condition My Condition Was In on September 17, 2016, 08:34:52 PM
Quote from: Candace Young on September 17, 2016, 04:25:08 PM
why would performances turn people off from buying....it flopped cause she didn't promote and imo it was horrible + the singles :uhh:
That album wasn't horrible.
Title: Re: Is this why Tamar last effort flopped?
Post by: Just Dropped In To See What Condition My Condition Was In on September 17, 2016, 08:41:15 PM
And wasn't some of these performances was during when she was having the throat issues? She didn't really promote it because she was doing "The Real" and Dancing With The Stars" at the same time and then she got sick. So no she didn't really promote it at all. Her attitude was starting to change. I'm going to be blunt and honest regarding Tamar: She needs to let go of the petty behavior (even though she's always been that way to a degree, Toni has alluded to it many times that she's always had this over the top personality) and start maturing as a person which I think she's starting to do, she's not as active or crazy on social media as of late so that's a start but I really want her to start evolving with her music. Broken Record, Raise The Bar, and Makin Love are all in the right direction. If she continues with that sound, then she'll be fine. Also, she definitely needs to get back into the studio with Tricky because he did a great job on her first album "The Way It Should Be" is a prime example. She sounded so good on that song.
Title: Re: Is this why Tamar last effort flopped?
Post by: D.I.E.G.O. on September 17, 2016, 08:44:54 PM
Quote from: Jay. on September 17, 2016, 08:34:52 PM
Quote from: Candace Young on September 17, 2016, 04:25:08 PM
why would performances turn people off from buying....it flopped cause she didn't promote and imo it was horrible + the singles :uhh:
That album wasn't horrible.

!!! The album was good. The material was there. Consistent promo was not.
Title: Re: Is this why Tamar last effort flopped?
Post by: Just Dropped In To See What Condition My Condition Was In on September 17, 2016, 08:50:22 PM
Quote from: Margeaux. on September 17, 2016, 05:50:08 PM
n

The album came out before she got sick though. She's just an evil person.
True. I don't think that she's truly evil. She's just immature and needs to grow up.
Title: Re: Is this why Tamar last effort flopped?
Post by: Scott. on September 17, 2016, 08:59:10 PM
It didn't do well because we don't fuck with her.
Title: Re: Is this why Tamar last effort flopped?
Post by: D.I.E.G.O. on September 17, 2016, 09:00:25 PM
Quote from: Scott. on September 17, 2016, 08:59:10 PM
It didn't do well because we don't fuck with her.

What do you have against Tamar?
Title: Re: Is this why Tamar last effort flopped?
Post by: Scott. on September 17, 2016, 09:01:37 PM
Quote from: D.I.E.G.O. on September 17, 2016, 09:00:25 PM
Quote from: Scott. on September 17, 2016, 08:59:10 PM
It didn't do well because we don't fuck with her.

What do you have against Tamar?

It's called an opinion. I have one and I don't like the bitch. Nothing else matters.
Title: Re: Is this why Tamar last effort flopped?
Post by: Scott. on September 17, 2016, 09:02:50 PM
And apparently, looking at this thread, I'm not the only one with something "against her".
Title: Re: Is this why Tamar last effort flopped?
Post by: D.I.E.G.O. on September 17, 2016, 09:16:01 PM
Quote from: Scott. on September 17, 2016, 09:01:37 PM
Quote from: D.I.E.G.O. on September 17, 2016, 09:00:25 PM
Quote from: Scott. on September 17, 2016, 08:59:10 PM
It didn't do well because we don't fuck with her.

What do you have against Tamar?

It's called an opinion. I have one and I don't like the bitch. Nothing else matters.

Why are you so angry? I was just curious why you didn't care for her. No need to be rude about it. Damn.
Title: Re: Is this why Tamar last effort flopped?
Post by: Vonc2002 on September 17, 2016, 09:18:34 PM
Quote from: Scott. on September 17, 2016, 09:01:37 PM
Quote from: D.I.E.G.O. on September 17, 2016, 09:00:25 PM
Quote from: Scott. on September 17, 2016, 08:59:10 PM
It didn't do well because we don't fuck with her.

What do you have against Tamar?

It's called an opinion. I have one and I don't like the bitch. Nothing else matters.
:kii:
Title: Re: Is this why Tamar last effort flopped?
Post by: Scott. on September 17, 2016, 09:22:59 PM
Quote from: D.I.E.G.O. on September 17, 2016, 09:16:01 PM
Quote from: Scott. on September 17, 2016, 09:01:37 PM
Quote from: D.I.E.G.O. on September 17, 2016, 09:00:25 PM
Quote from: Scott. on September 17, 2016, 08:59:10 PM
It didn't do well because we don't fuck with her.

What do you have against Tamar?

It's called an opinion. I have one and I don't like the bitch. Nothing else matters.

Why are you so angry? I was just curious why you didn't care for her. No need to be rude about it. Damn.
Im not angry.  I just don't see why I'm the only one in here being questioned when it's clear that most of this thread shares the same feelings as I do.
Title: Re: Is this why Tamar last effort flopped?
Post by: Vonc2002 on September 17, 2016, 09:23:44 PM
Yea, cause i hate that bitch