I'm having this massive debate with a German resale company that carries R&B and hip hop music in a section called "Black Music"...
In that aisle you will find anything from Jason DeR?lo, to Jennifer Lopez, Kendrick Lamar and Grace Jones.
Am I being petty in asking them to change the label or is it inappropriate?
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Right then there should be a 'white music' section as well
Germany is late for that, that would never fly in any other country
The debate on the company's FB Page is HEATED. People really hold on to that title. We have successful compilation CD's too, called "Black Hits" or "Best of Black" ...
Some blacks bring the argument that it gives acknowledgment since it is indeed black music. But then why don't they put Rock, Jazz and Reggae in that mess too?
Very lazy
German is the only country that still does it right?
Quote from: black. on October 08, 2016, 08:35:01 AM
Quote from: COCO on October 08, 2016, 08:33:04 AM
Right then there should be a 'white music' section as well
Germany is late for that, that would never fly in any other country
Isn't Germany racist as hell towards anyone non-white anyway? :plzstop: :plzstop:
I've seen some documentaries that had me appalled. They are very unapologetic about it.
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And it's weird because it's one of those countries African immigrants tend go to the most
Before my father settled in Britian in the 90s he lived in Germany for a decade and said never again :uhh:
Quote from: Kaeli. on October 08, 2016, 08:36:14 AM
Very lazy
German is the only country that still does it right?
Yeah it's a specific German term. Our R&B/Hip-Hop chart was called "Black Charts" until 2 years ago... now it's called "Urban Charts"
People say Black Music encompasses styles and genres that 'R&B and hip hop' couldn't express. And "Urban" just never really caught on.
I kinda still want them to change it tho.
Quote from: black. on October 08, 2016, 08:39:04 AM
"hey, why is Kelly Clarkson right next to Taylor? they're two totally different genres!!! :fuming: "
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They are telling me I'm too sensitive and there are bigger issues in the world...
Quote from: Magnolia Maymuru on October 08, 2016, 08:41:29 AM
They are telling me I'm too sensitive and there are bigger issues in the world...
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Typical non black response to racial issues
One whitie said I wasn't proud to be black as the music in the section is good music and I should be honored. I mean low key he has a point but all the high brow "objectively" more high quality music is not listed under Black, just the contemporary clubbing music and street rap.
Quote from: Magnolia Maymuru on October 08, 2016, 08:41:29 AM
They are telling me I'm too sensitive and there are bigger issues in the world...
and they are right
but it is an inappropriate term, you just love mess though so
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Germany is not that racist, but they are not that sensitive towards blacks either.
Quote from: black. on October 08, 2016, 08:49:58 AM
Quote from: Magnolia Maymuru on October 08, 2016, 08:43:55 AM
One whitie said I wasn't proud to be black as the music in the section is good music and I should be honored. I mean low key he has a point but all the high brow "objectively" more high quality music is not listed under Black, just the contemporary clubbing music and street rap.
There's no sense in arguing with the store people anyway.
If you want real attention to your concern write a letter to corporate.
Your issue is way above their pay grade and responsibilities.
Which is probably a big reason they're telling you to shut up.
It's on the company's official FB Page, where somebody told me that. The company's social media even chimed in. Dozens of ppl are heatedly debating now.
The store guy was actually understanding and said he would consider it.
"Black music" as a genre title is completely disgusting
Stop shading, barely any history is more evil than America.
In Germany, R&B music by predominantly black artists was VERY huge in the 90ies and early 00s, hence whenever a Joe or Ginuwine performs here nowadays, it's always a souldout show. :dead: Germany loves R&B music!
I guess this is why the equalization of R&B = black music came along. I think it's simply a wrong term and it has bothered me a bit for a long time now. Everything that's R&B/Soul/Rap is put under "black music". I've seen plenty of times that they put Eminem, M.I.A., Mac Miller and even German/Turkish rappers under "black music". :plzstop:
Quote from: black. on October 08, 2016, 08:45:09 AM
I'm sorry you have to live in a country like that.
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The dramatics
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Quote from: squid on October 08, 2016, 09:10:12 AM
In Germany, R&B music by predominantly black artists was VERY huge in the 90ies and early 00s, hence whenever a Joe or Ginuwine performs here nowadays, it's always a souldout show. :dead: Germany loves R&B music!
I guess this is why the equalization of R&B = black music came along. I think it's simply a wrong term and it has bothered me a bit for a long time now. Everything that's R&B/Soul/Rap is put under "black music". I've seen plenty of times that they put Eminem, M.I.A., Mac Miller and even German/Turkish rappers under "black music". :plzstop:
The crazy thing is even the most right wing redneck white Trash will
Love their "good ol black music"...
It's such a weird term that nobody uses outside of Germany. It's time to toss it.
I don't like how "black" or "dark" is used to describe things that are sinister, where as "white" and "light" is used to describe things that are innocent and holy.
I don't like the term "black comedy"... :uhh:
Quote from: black. on October 08, 2016, 08:39:04 AM
To me it just shows their disregard and level of understanding of anything outside of what THEY care for.
It's no different than for instance --- Snoop Dogg opening a music store. He would definitely have the hip-hop and R&B mess categorized very meticulously -- down to the eras, producers, everything. and then have a section in the back saying "white music" with Taylor Swift, etc. THROWN into a bin. sdsdbddbbbbbb even though a white person may come into the store and say "hey, why is Kelly Clarkson right next to Taylor? they're two totally different genres!!! :fuming: "
but if he took his white demographic seriously, he'd hire someone who knew more about specifics and make sure that it is displayed correctly.
They're simply unapologetic with their ignorance.
They can put in the same box as the music usually lives in the same media and has similar consumers (club, radio etc.)
Just use a different name.
They can't just put R&B Music?
I already said no to this when u said it some time ago, hell no
When that guy shaded your hair....what kinda racist!
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Quote from: black. on October 08, 2016, 08:49:58 AM
Quote from: Magnolia Maymuru on October 08, 2016, 08:43:55 AM
One whitie said I wasn't proud to be black as the music in the section is good music and I should be honored. I mean low key he has a point but all the high brow "objectively" more high quality music is not listed under Black, just the contemporary clubbing music and street rap.
There's no sense in arguing with the store people anyway.
If you want real attention to your concern write a letter to corporate.
Your issue is way above their pay grade and responsibilities.
Which is probably a big reason they're telling you to shut up.
It's on the company's official FB Page, where somebody told me that. The company's social media even chimed in. Dozens of ppl are heatedly debating now.
The store guy was actually understanding and said he would consider it.
I feel like this was your goal more than them actually changing the sign :dead:
:dead: :dead: yea
They did replace ha though
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well done
oh wow
#change
thats great
To answer your question: no. Curious to know where artists like Darius Rucker and Lenny Kravitz were placed. They are black, but don't necessarily fit in the Soul/Hip Hop/R&B categories.
Now they need to move Bruno corny ass to the Pop section