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Title: Racial Identity
Post by: Aamerie. on October 20, 2016, 10:29:44 AM
Do you think someone can respectably feel like they were meant to be born under a different ethnicity, like some people feel they were born with the wrong genitalia?
Title: Re: Racial Identity
Post by: Vonc2002 on October 20, 2016, 10:31:07 AM
Now that's crazy to me
Title: Re: Racial Identity
Post by: GRAND on October 20, 2016, 10:33:10 AM
the only things different between races is skin color and hair :dead:

i mean, if you're black you have the benefit of not getting fcking skin cancer as easily, but other than that...

thats why i just dont understand.

Title: Re: Racial Identity
Post by: Chameleon on October 20, 2016, 10:33:15 AM
Like someone who is "transracial?"

A la Rachel Dolezal?
Title: Re: Racial Identity
Post by: wizzy on October 20, 2016, 10:37:08 AM
It's possible
there's plenty of experiences people have had that I'll never understand, so why not this
Title: Re: Racial Identity
Post by: Aamerie. on October 20, 2016, 10:37:32 AM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on October 20, 2016, 10:31:07 AM
Now that's crazy to me

I actually thought about this reading something someone just said about you. That "vonc hates how he looks." I dont believe you do but it sparked a thought. What if someone legit doesnt like the way they look, not because of self hate induced by societys "norm" or beauty standards, but because the truly genuinely feel as though they belong to a different group? They feel more connected to a certain culture, they feel uncomfortable with their "own" kind. Cant relate to the woes of the people with the same skin they're in. These are all the reasons I hear trans people giving about why they didnt feel "right."  So if all it takes is for someone to feel "wrong" in what they are, can we accept these people the same way we want to with trans? Can self-hate be more than just negative views about what youre born in?
Title: Re: Racial Identity
Post by: D.I.E.G.O. on October 20, 2016, 10:37:40 AM
Respectably feel? Yes. Not sure that anyone can illegitimize another person's feelings about themselves. However, I think it's important not to conflate the issues of trans-identity and racial identity.
Title: Re: Racial Identity
Post by: KING BENTLEY. on October 20, 2016, 10:40:13 AM
Interesting.

I've heard of Cultural Identity, which is what I saw Rachel Dolziac as

But I think this can happen too.
Title: Re: Racial Identity
Post by: CHOKE on October 20, 2016, 11:03:31 AM
I def think in my past life I was a blonde cunty, woman.

I just have this entitlement that is typical of a white womah

Can't explain it.
Title: Re: Racial Identity
Post by: SouravMay on October 20, 2016, 11:51:19 AM
Trans race and trans gender are both silly to me. But since both are a social construct you can also re-assign both at your will, but basically it means you subscribe to those classifications in the first place.
Title: Re: Racial Identity
Post by: Aamerie. on October 20, 2016, 11:52:42 AM
Quote from: Magnolia Maymuru on October 20, 2016, 11:51:19 AM
Trans race and trans gender are both silly to me. But since both are a social construct you can also re-assign both at your will, but basically it means you subscribe to those classifications in the first place.

This is what Lew was saying in that "trans mess gets on my nerves" thread. Its sound.
Title: Re: Racial Identity
Post by: SouravMay on October 20, 2016, 11:56:08 AM
Quote from: Columbo! PICASSO! on October 20, 2016, 11:52:42 AM
Quote from: Magnolia Maymuru on October 20, 2016, 11:51:19 AM
Trans race and trans gender are both silly to me. But since both are a social construct you can also re-assign both at your will, but basically it means you subscribe to those classifications in the first place.

This is what Lew was saying in that "trans mess gets on my nerves" thread. Its sound.

I didn't understand Lew's points in that thread. But I'm saying if you identify as transgender or transsexual it means you subordinate yourself after social norms that have established the binary system of woman- and manhood, and it means you believe there are features distinct to men and women respectively beyond anatomy. Something which could actually be interpreted as anti-feminist.
Title: Re: Racial Identity
Post by: MAY on October 20, 2016, 01:13:27 PM
This is very interesting. I've never even thought about that.