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Title: Do you guys think the Internet has actually made it HARDER for newer artist?
Post by: GRAND on January 17, 2017, 05:28:17 PM
Because when I checkout various 'New Music' websites, I see new artist--after new artist--after new artist--after new :melmel:

Anyone can record a track, have a photoshoot and upload their mess to various music sites and even create a fake mass social media following

It just feels overwhelming now. I don't really want to sort through all these new fags every day, and I can't be the only one

:melmel:
Title: Re: Do you guys think the Internet has actually made it HARDER for newer artist?
Post by: MAY on January 17, 2017, 05:32:18 PM
I had this conversation with a friend recently. I think it's both a blessing and a curse.

It's a lot easier to get "discovered" now a days with social media & Youtube.
However, because of that accessibility it's as if the market has become over-saturated with new artists.
So it makes it harder to really stand out and get noticed.
Title: Re: Do you guys think the Internet has actually made it HARDER for newer artist?
Post by: GRAND on January 17, 2017, 05:34:41 PM
Quote from: MΛΥDΛΥ on January 17, 2017, 05:32:18 PM
I had this conversation with a friend recently. I think it's both a blessing and a curse.

It's a lot easier to get "discovered" now a days with social media & Youtube.
However, because of that accessibility it's as if the market has become over-saturated with new artists.
So it makes it harder to really stand out and get noticed.
!!

Yes thats how I feel

and every since R&B took a backseat in the late 2000's and this 'alternative' r&b popped up, all these girls sound and look alike

photoshoot with depressed pose!
deep lyrics!
drugs!

im sick of it tbh

I notice this mostly with R&B and Hiphop because thats all i listen to

Not sure what the white girls are doing

And Rap has been the same for decades now so theres no change there really

:melmel:
Title: Re: Do you guys think the Internet has actually made it HARDER for newer artist?
Post by: 🦚 on January 17, 2017, 05:37:40 PM
It's easier than it's ever been.

Look at Lana. She went from a tumblr following to her debut album selling 5 mill + while the mainstream pop girls were struggling.

The internet is the best thing to happen to new artists. The days of being thirsty and begging hot shot execs and a&r's to listen to your demo are over and done.

No promo is better than word of mouth when it comes to music. A friend tells a friend who tells a friend who tells another friend to check you out and there you are.

You can even skip the iTunes percentage greed and set you up a band camp.
Title: Re: Do you guys think the Internet has actually made it HARDER for newer artist?
Post by: MAY on January 17, 2017, 05:39:01 PM
Quote from: GRAND SUPREME MARSHALL on January 17, 2017, 05:34:41 PM
Quote from: MΛΥDΛΥ on January 17, 2017, 05:32:18 PM
I had this conversation with a friend recently. I think it's both a blessing and a curse.

It's a lot easier to get "discovered" now a days with social media & Youtube.
However, because of that accessibility it's as if the market has become over-saturated with new artists.
So it makes it harder to really stand out and get noticed.
!!

Yes thats how I feel

and every since R&B took a backseat in the late 2000's and this 'alternative' r&b popped up, all these girls sound and look alike

photoshoot with depressed pose!
deep lyrics!
drugs!

im sick of it tbh

I notice this mostly with R&B and Hiphop because thats all i listen to

Not sure what the white girls are doing

And Rap has been the same for decades now so theres no change there really

:melmel:

!!!!
I love a lot of the alternative R&B, but I'm so sick of all these "artists" giving the same thing.

You don't even have to really know how to sing anymore. As long as you can stay on key and ride a beat anyone can be an R&B artist now.
Title: Re: Do you guys think the Internet has actually made it HARDER for newer artist?
Post by: GRAND on January 17, 2017, 05:39:25 PM
Quote from: iSleigh on January 17, 2017, 05:37:40 PM
It's easier than it's ever been.

Look at Lana. She went from a tumblr following to her debut album selling 5 mill + while the mainstream pop girls were struggling.

The internet is the best thing to happen to new artists. The days of being thirsty and begging hot shot execs and a&r's to listen to your demo are over and done.

No promo is better than word of mouth when it comes to music. A friend tells a friend who tells a friend who tells another friend to check you out and there you are.

You can even skip the iTunes percentage greed and set you up a band camp.
yeah and what about the other 6 million girls sitting on tumblr still, hoping to get discovered?

:overit:

i acknowledge the fact the internets can propel you, but the oversaturation is a problem as well
Title: Re: Do you guys think the Internet has actually made it HARDER for newer artist?
Post by: 🦚 on January 17, 2017, 05:42:11 PM
Quote from: GRAND SUPREME MARSHALL on January 17, 2017, 05:39:25 PM
Quote from: iSleigh on January 17, 2017, 05:37:40 PM
It's easier than it's ever been.

Look at Lana. She went from a tumblr following to her debut album selling 5 mill + while the mainstream pop girls were struggling.

The internet is the best thing to happen to new artists. The days of being thirsty and begging hot shot execs and a&r's to listen to your demo are over and done.

No promo is better than word of mouth when it comes to music. A friend tells a friend who tells a friend who tells another friend to check you out and there you are.

You can even skip the iTunes percentage greed and set you up a band camp.
yeah and what about the other 6 million girls sitting on tumblr still, hoping to get discovered?

:overit:

i acknowledge the fact the internets can propel you, but the oversaturation is a problem as well

They ain't Lana.  Everybody isn't a star baby.

I mean look at King (the group) they went from band camp to global stages to a Grammy nomination ...all independent and all due to good reviews from the listeners.

The days of the major labels and aggressive promo trails are over.
Unless your name is taylor.
Title: Re: Do you guys think the Internet has actually made it HARDER for newer artist?
Post by: BAPHOMET. on January 17, 2017, 05:42:21 PM
Most of the girls just dont have it. tbh

All of the new and trying-to-come up chicks are basically the same person with different filters and the guys just bland.
Title: Re: Do you guys think the Internet has actually made it HARDER for newer artist?
Post by: FINE. on January 17, 2017, 05:45:21 PM
It's made it easier.
Title: Re: Do you guys think the Internet has actually made it HARDER for newer artist?
Post by: 🦚 on January 17, 2017, 05:46:16 PM
I mean check the profiles. The girls swear they are a

Singer! Dancer! Actor! Designer! CEO! Event planner! Mogul! Motivational speaker! Spokes person!

Everybody is a Jill of all trades online...but who is the actual credentials?!
Title: Re: Do you guys think the Internet has actually made it HARDER for newer artist?
Post by: Cowboy Nine on January 17, 2017, 05:49:03 PM
Quote from: GRAND SUPREME MARSHALL on January 17, 2017, 05:34:41 PM
Quote from: MΛΥDΛΥ on January 17, 2017, 05:32:18 PM
I had this conversation with a friend recently. I think it's both a blessing and a curse.

It's a lot easier to get "discovered" now a days with social media & Youtube.
However, because of that accessibility it's as if the market has become over-saturated with new artists.
So it makes it harder to really stand out and get noticed.
!!

Yes thats how I feel

and every since R&B took a backseat in the late 2000's and this 'alternative' r&b popped up, all these girls sound and look alike

photoshoot with depressed pose!
deep lyrics!
drugs!

im sick of it tbh

I notice this mostly with R&B and Hiphop because thats all i listen to

Not sure what the white girls are doing

And Rap has been the same for decades now so theres no change there really

:melmel:
!!!!!

I'm sick of these girls coo'ing over these DROWSY ass, 40-esque beats
Title: Re: Do you guys think the Internet has actually made it HARDER for newer artist?
Post by: Young on January 17, 2017, 05:50:12 PM
It's a blessing and a curse

Title: Re: Do you guys think the Internet has actually made it HARDER for newer artist?
Post by: Young on January 17, 2017, 05:52:23 PM
IF you get to stand out amongst the thousands creating music
And get the machine behind you , you still have to STAY hot an relevant

And that's hard to do now when everything just comes and goes

Look at albums
They don't last like they use to.
Everything is so QUICK now and so are people's attention spans


Title: Re: Do you guys think the Internet has actually made it HARDER for newer artist?
Post by: 🦚 on January 17, 2017, 05:56:53 PM
Having the machine doesn't mean shit these days.
Title: Re: Do you guys think the Internet has actually made it HARDER for newer artist?
Post by: Cartierline on January 17, 2017, 06:01:04 PM
Most modern R&B songs by the new 'artists' are so fckin boring and reptitive

drugs! sex! break up make up!

All over some drowsy, Noah Shebib-esque beats

It's really put me off even looking for new artists when I already know what I'm gonna fckin find

:overit:
Title: Re: Do you guys think the Internet has actually made it HARDER for newer artist?
Post by: 🦚 on January 17, 2017, 06:02:24 PM
You just don't know where to look then. There are soooooo many urban alternative girls around.
Title: Re: Do you guys think the Internet has actually made it HARDER for newer artist?
Post by: GRAND on January 17, 2017, 06:05:16 PM
Quote from: iSleigh on January 17, 2017, 06:02:24 PM
There are soooooo many urban alternative girls around.
yeah girl


thats why i made this thread

:diddraispoot:

Title: Re: Do you guys think the Internet has actually made it HARDER for newer artist?
Post by: SouravMay on January 17, 2017, 06:06:49 PM
i love it. i can be an artist tomorrow if i want to. i feel no pressure to work hard or train in some gym go to los angeles or some mess.

If I want to I can slap on some edgy dread lock wig, record five songs, pay for an edgy photoshoot and slap it on itunes, buy some fans on Facebook and insta and then I am an "artist".
Title: Re: Do you guys think the Internet has actually made it HARDER for newer artist?
Post by: GRAND on January 17, 2017, 06:06:51 PM
Quote from: eufaula. on January 17, 2017, 05:58:29 PM
Quote from: GRAND SUPREME MARSHALL on January 17, 2017, 05:34:41 PM
Quote from: MΛΥDΛΥ on January 17, 2017, 05:32:18 PM
I had this conversation with a friend recently. I think it's both a blessing and a curse.

It's a lot easier to get "discovered" now a days with social media & Youtube.
However, because of that accessibility it's as if the market has become over-saturated with new artists.
So it makes it harder to really stand out and get noticed.
!!

Yes thats how I feel

and every since R&B took a backseat in the late 2000's and this 'alternative' r&b popped up, all these girls sound and look alike

photoshoot with depressed pose!
deep lyrics!
drugs!

cf

F
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FFf

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My
they ARE :overit:


a few have made it BIG that way though

Weekend, August, and Cudi come to mind

:overit:
Title: Re: Do you guys think the Internet has actually made it HARDER for newer artist?
Post by: GRAND on January 17, 2017, 06:07:30 PM
Quote from: شيطان on January 17, 2017, 06:06:49 PM
i love it. i can be an artist tomorrow if i want to. i feel no pressure to work hard or train in some gym go to los angeles or some mess.

If I want to I can slap on some edgy dread lock wig, record five songs, pay for an edgy photoshoot and slap it on itunes, buy some fans on Facebook and insta and then I am an "artist".
!!

My only issue is that there are TOO many

and I've lost interest in finding new talent

Title: Re: Do you guys think the Internet has actually made it HARDER for newer artist?
Post by: 🦚 on January 17, 2017, 06:08:22 PM
Quote from: GRAND SUPREME MARSHALL on January 17, 2017, 06:05:16 PM
Quote from: iSleigh on January 17, 2017, 06:02:24 PM
There are soooooo many urban alternative girls around.
yeah girl


thats why i made this thread

:diddraispoot:

Which 1s are you exploring?
Title: Re: Do you guys think the Internet has actually made it HARDER for newer artist?
Post by: GRAND on January 17, 2017, 06:08:26 PM
This is all Kanye and Drakes fault

808 and Comeback Season, & So Far Gone spawned all these depressed girls
Title: Re: Do you guys think the Internet has actually made it HARDER for newer artist?
Post by: SouravMay on January 17, 2017, 06:12:07 PM
Quote from: GRAND SUPREME MARSHALL on January 17, 2017, 06:07:30 PM
Quote from: شيطان on January 17, 2017, 06:06:49 PM
i love it. i can be an artist tomorrow if i want to. i feel no pressure to work hard or train in some gym go to los angeles or some mess.

If I want to I can slap on some edgy dread lock wig, record five songs, pay for an edgy photoshoot and slap it on itunes, buy some fans on Facebook and insta and then I am an "artist".
!!

My only issue is that there are TOO many

and I've lost interest in finding new talent

I guess that is a point. We don't have that collective experience anymore, where EVERYONE knows that one R&B song. Now it is certain demographic groups / subcultures who know hits. Like everybody and their momma knew "Yeah!" or "Ignition". But "Adorn" or "Don't" is just a certain niche of people. Audiences are more sparsely populated.
Title: Re: Do you guys think the Internet has actually made it HARDER for newer artist?
Post by: Young on January 17, 2017, 06:17:19 PM
The REAL issue is how the industry glamorizes and promotes SHIT 80% of the time vice actual talent

And most of the black artists really getting play are the rappers or the black female trinity (Nicki , Bey and Rih)
Title: Re: Do you guys think the Internet has actually made it HARDER for newer artist?
Post by: GRAND on January 17, 2017, 06:49:38 PM
Quote from: Young on January 17, 2017, 06:17:19 PM
The REAL issue is how the industry glamorizes and promotes SHIT 80% of the time vice actual talent

And most of the black artists really getting play are the rappers or the black female trinity (Nicki , Bey and Rih)
dont think the internet had much of an effect on this stuff

:guys:
Title: Re: Do you guys think the Internet has actually made it HARDER for newer artist?
Post by: yummy on January 17, 2017, 06:54:59 PM
The industry has always been overpopulated, but most of these artists don't last that long and eventually fade away to nothing more than nostalgic memories. The only thing harming the industry is music piracy. An album's shelf life is getting shorter by the minute and album sales are declining every year to the point of many major artists strictly focusing on singles. 
Title: Re: Do you guys think the Internet has actually made it HARDER for newer artist?
Post by: LOONA. on January 18, 2017, 08:27:57 AM
Social media yes