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Title: What is with these coons?
Post by: Kurama on April 11, 2017, 01:58:58 PM
QuoteAs noted by Shadow and Act, Zawe Austin is the only Black actress in the press materials, but she plays an informant, not an activist. As if erasing Black women from the forefront of a revolution they took part in, it was the response from the show's creator, 12 Years A Slave director John Ridley, that really raised eyebrows.

RELATED: John Ridley Writes Letter to the Academy Regarding #OscarsSoWhite2016

?My parents were a part of that movement [black power]," said the first audience member "I want to understand why you decided [to make] an Asian woman the main protagonist.?

?I understand the contribution of Asians to this, but having an Asian protagonist making all the big decisions? does that get explained in subsequent episodes? We can?t ignore that,? she continued.

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?If everybody understood racism, oppression? there would be no reason to be doing this show," Ridley said. "We would be doing Dancing With The Stars."

Another audience member rephrased the question for Ridley to answer.

?I?m not sure you quite answered the question ? why are there no Black women at the forefront of the struggle? That doesn?t necessarily accurately reflect what happened in the 70s in the UK,? she said.

Ceesay was taken aback by the suggestion: ?Wow, really? You know this because you read about it??


?No, we know this because our parents were a part of it,? she responded.

With audience members now having vocal disagreements amongst themselves ? with one loudly describing it as ?the erasure of Black women? ? Ridley launched an impassioned defense of his project:


?I said previously, I think the characters in this story are complicated across the board, so the concept that any one person is somehow better, or more elevated, or more appropriate than any other individual, I?m sorry, I don?t accept that. I don?t want to make this overly personal, but part of why I chose to have a mixed race couple at the centre of this is that I?m in a mixed race relationship. The things that are being said here, and how we are often received, is very equivalent to what?s going on right now [in the wider world]. My wife is a fighter, my wife is an activist, and yet because our races our different there are a lot of things we have to still put up with.? he said, visibly holding back tears according to Screen Daily.

http://www.essence.com/entertainment/john-ridley-erasing-black-woman-guerrilla-showtime
Title: Re: What is with these coons?
Post by: FlowerBomb on April 11, 2017, 02:03:49 PM
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QuoteIf everybody understood racism, oppression? there would be no reason to be doing this show," Ridley said. "We would be doing Dancing With The Stars."

Another audience member rephrased the question for Ridley to answer.

?I?m not sure you quite answered the question ? why are there no Black women at the forefront of the struggle? That doesn?t necessarily accurately reflect what happened in the 70s in the UK,? she said.

Ceesay was taken aback by the suggestion: ?Wow, really? You know this because you read about it??

?No, we know this because our parents were a part of it,? she responded.

With audience members now having vocal disagreements amongst themselves ? with one loudly describing it as ?the erasure of Black women? ? Ridley launched an impassioned defense of his project:


this back n forth made me scream  :plzstop:
Title: Re: What is with these coons?
Post by: Kurama on April 11, 2017, 02:07:21 PM
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Is it Lee Dan'?
Title: Re: What is with these coons?
Post by: Gilgamesh. on April 11, 2017, 02:08:48 PM
QuoteCeesay was taken aback by the suggestion: ?Wow, really? You know this because you read about it??

?No, we know this because our parents were a part of it,? she responded

I'm picturing the collective gag across the room when she said this :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:
Title: Re: What is with these coons?
Post by: Gilgamesh. on April 11, 2017, 02:09:33 PM
well ACTUALLY... :nowgorl:
Title: Re: What is with these coons?
Post by: BAPHOMET. on April 11, 2017, 02:09:59 PM
 :diddraispoot:
Title: Re: What is with these coons?
Post by: FlowerBomb on April 11, 2017, 02:10:26 PM
You know because you were there?  :tellmemoreireallycare:

No...because our parents were apart of it   :udontlookok:


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A lot of these film directors, producers ect always seem to take 2 steps back when it comes to race relations.
Lee Daniels and Tyler Perry are prime examples.
Title: Re: What is with these coons?
Post by: FlowerBomb on April 11, 2017, 02:12:09 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh. on April 11, 2017, 02:08:48 PM
QuoteCeesay was taken aback by the suggestion: ?Wow, really? You know this because you read about it??

?No, we know this because our parents were a part of it,? she responded

I'm picturing the collective gag across the room when she said this :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:
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John thought he had her there :dead:
Title: Re: What is with these coons?
Post by: MAY on April 11, 2017, 02:13:03 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh. on April 11, 2017, 02:08:48 PM
QuoteCeesay was taken aback by the suggestion: ?Wow, really? You know this because you read about it??

?No, we know this because our parents were a part of it,? she responded

I'm picturing the collective gag across the room when she said this :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:

!!!!

He thought he had her and sis said not so fuckin fast :plzstop:
Title: Re: What is with these coons?
Post by: FlowerBomb on April 11, 2017, 02:13:03 PM
and not her getting straight to the point after the first woman tried to do it tactfully  :plzstop: :plzstop:
Title: Re: What is with these coons?
Post by: Kurama on April 11, 2017, 02:19:41 PM
I dont think you understood the question
lemme ask again


:nowgorl:
Title: Re: What is with these coons?
Post by: AIDS on April 11, 2017, 02:24:06 PM
Quote from: Kurama on April 11, 2017, 02:19:41 PM
I dont think you understood the question
lemme ask again


:nowgorl:


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this has me screaming
Title: Re: What is with these coons?
Post by: Gilgamesh. on April 11, 2017, 02:28:13 PM
Didn't Zoe Saldana say some new black, problematic, fuckery this week too?
Title: Re: What is with these coons?
Post by: Gilgamesh. on April 11, 2017, 02:30:19 PM
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Zoe Saldana is the star of three blockbuster science fiction franchises ― and she says the experience has allowed her to be ?colorblind? when it comes to race on screen.


The Afro-Latina actress, who plays the green-skinned alien Gamora in ?Guardians of the Galaxy,? told The Daily Telegraph on Saturday that sci-fi makes her feel ?superhuman? because it doesn?t focus on ?the color of my skin or my gender or my cultural background.?


?I think science fiction has given me the ability as an artist to be colorblind, and gender-blind,? Saldana added. ?And to imagine and reinvent myself and be the chameleon actors are supposed to be.?

In addition to Gamora, Saldana has played the blue-skinned Neytiri in ?Avatar,? and Lt. Nyota Uhura in the ?Star Trek? franchise.

But despite her success in sci-fi, Saldana?s colorblind approach to acting has drawn some criticism in other genres. In 2015, Saldana came under fire for playing Nina Simone in a biopic, a role for which she wore blackface and a prosthetic nose.

At the time, Saldana defended herself by stating: ?An artist is colorless, genderless ? It?s more complex than just, ?Oh, you chose the Halle Berry look-alike to play a dark, strikingly beautiful, iconic black woman.? The truth is, they chose an artist who was willing to sacrifice herself.?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/zoe-saldana-says-starring-in-sci-fi-movies-made-her-a-colorblind-actress_us_58ece538e4b0c89f91218fe7

:udontlookok:
Title: Re: What is with these coons?
Post by: Kurama on April 11, 2017, 02:34:11 PM
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I was just about to post this. Im sick of her ass too.
Title: Re: What is with these coons?
Post by: FlowerBomb on April 11, 2017, 02:34:54 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh. on April 11, 2017, 02:30:19 PM
Quote
Zoe Saldana is the star of three blockbuster science fiction franchises ― and she says the experience has allowed her to be ?colorblind? when it comes to race on screen.


The Afro-Latina actress, who plays the green-skinned alien Gamora in ?Guardians of the Galaxy,? told The Daily Telegraph on Saturday that sci-fi makes her feel ?superhuman? because it doesn?t focus on ?the color of my skin or my gender or my cultural background.?


?I think science fiction has given me the ability as an artist to be colorblind, and gender-blind,? Saldana added. ?And to imagine and reinvent myself and be the chameleon actors are supposed to be.?

In addition to Gamora, Saldana has played the blue-skinned Neytiri in ?Avatar,? and Lt. Nyota Uhura in the ?Star Trek? franchise.

But despite her success in sci-fi, Saldana?s colorblind approach to acting has drawn some criticism in other genres. In 2015, Saldana came under fire for playing Nina Simone in a biopic, a role for which she wore blackface and a prosthetic nose.

At the time, Saldana defended herself by stating: ?An artist is colorless, genderless ? It?s more complex than just, ?Oh, you chose the Halle Berry look-alike to play a dark, strikingly beautiful, iconic black woman.? The truth is, they chose an artist who was willing to sacrifice herself.?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/zoe-saldana-says-starring-in-sci-fi-movies-made-her-a-colorblind-actress_us_58ece538e4b0c89f91218fe7

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Title: Re: What is with these coons?
Post by: FlowerBomb on April 11, 2017, 02:35:18 PM
First Samuel, now John and Zoe?
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Title: Re: What is with these coons?
Post by: fedswatchin on April 11, 2017, 02:40:55 PM
I'm sorry but that "for my art" stuff is nothing but a coon-tastic copout
Title: Re: What is with these coons?
Post by: GRAND on April 11, 2017, 02:45:09 PM
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Zoe has always been on that mess

Especially after she booked Avatar and had her white baby

'you can do anything!1!1!!! no1 is racist!'

Title: Re: What is with these coons?
Post by: Genesis on April 11, 2017, 02:48:05 PM
So he gave an asian woman a lead role that's intended for a black woman because he's dating an asian in real life?

Title: Re: What is with these coons?
Post by: FlowerBomb on April 11, 2017, 02:49:39 PM
Quote from: Genesis on April 11, 2017, 02:48:05 PM
So he gave an asian woman a lead role that's intended for a black woman because he's dating an asian in real life?
yup
Title: Re: What is with these coons?
Post by: Kurama on April 11, 2017, 02:50:12 PM
Quote from: LORD GRAND SUPREME MARSHALL on April 11, 2017, 02:45:09 PM

'you can do anything!1!1!!! no1 is racist!'

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