Keep the shade girls. Honest opinions. SIS is about to be 32, and lately the only music the girls ever accepted from her had been the sexy/Rachet bops. With her now being a wife and a mother of two, I don't see her going that way. At least I hope not. Robin Thicke Blurred Lines, Bruno uptownfunk/24k Magic album, Pharrell Happy is the lane I think she can go. The people don't want pop and trap is in, but it may come across late for her at this point in her life. So what do y'all think?
:ohwow:
More records in the lane of Paint It Black would be nice also
n
Gag don't start I posted a warning
:rudone:
I'll be pissed if she doesn't go completely urban with how popular it is at the moment
It can be urban but not too much grease
:hmph:
She can still dance, looks a model and married to one of the most famous football players
It's only up from here
Quote from: Tonkaman on May 22, 2017, 02:42:21 PM
Robin Thicke Blurred Lines, Bruno uptownfunk/24k Magic album, Pharrell Happy is the lane I think she can go.
v
:udontlookok:
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She needs to get back on the track that she was on with "Ciara" basically.
And I want another messy bop like "Sweat"
She actually needs to be more personal in her music. This era also needs to have alot of visuals and stunning choreography. Step out the box Ci!
Quote from: Nine on May 22, 2017, 02:55:38 PM
Quote from: Tonkaman on May 22, 2017, 02:42:21 PM
Robin Thicke Blurred Lines, Bruno uptownfunk/24k Magic album, Pharrell Happy is the lane I think she can go.
v
:udontlookok:
yeah I Hated reading this
Ciara needs to bring her roots that made her POP and blended it with the growth she's shown over the years.
Her look will never be an issue; visually she's always gonna nail it
But she also needs to bring back her urban audience.
And she needs to blaze a trail not follow any. She can be in her own lane .
I'd like for a new sound from her :
Her cover of paint it black meets oh !
Dance like we're making love meets goodies
A universal sound with a lot of urban knock and funk
She can be that classy,sexy Queen she is and still Be kinda HOOD on record
I mean it's who she is and what people loved her for
Queen needs to make a full quality album this time. And the first single needs to come out with a video.
Quote from: M?rgi?l?l?. on May 22, 2017, 03:00:38 PM
She actually needs to be more personal in her music. This era also needs to have alot of visuals and stunning choreography. Step out the box Ci!
I just knew she was gonna drag Future for a few records on "Jackie" :dead: I was so disappointed cause when I heard "I Bet", I was like, "Okay, she gon give us the real!"
She needs to try her hand at doing whats really helping some projects and release a visual mess before the album.
and it needs to be damn amazing. Ciara makes good videos.
something like my bby Allan (hers would gain more attention because she's more mainstream plus bigger budget)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRtXAtzItZM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuYeb09rleg
or The Weeknd
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBsycvSU6r8
and she needs to do songs in vain of "Paint it Black"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYPWxymohWs
and some well produced LEANS. greasy.
(http://i.imgur.com/EauGSnK.jpg?1)
and an undeniable performance.
Dancing and adding shit like theatrics to her performance.
(http://i.imgur.com/ZJi67Us.gif)
It's crazy because she has all the tools to eat up the charts and gain interest :dead: a few different choices and she'll be fine
Quote from: DAMN. on May 22, 2017, 03:35:00 PM
When Ciara does "pop" it's always kinda corny and late too
There's like no balance
She has the potential but I won't be surprised if she flops again
yeah and she most likely will :hmph: that's why I feel like she needs to be a bit more experimental.
I just don't think Ciara is a very creative person so I hope whoever is handling her knows what they're doing.
Quote from: DAMN. on May 22, 2017, 02:57:21 PM
I can see Swae Lee writing with her.
and qauovo
Quote from: Young on May 22, 2017, 03:03:19 PM
Ciara needs to bring her roots that made her POP and blended it with the growth she's shown over the years.
Her look will never be an issue; visually she's always gonna nail it
But she also needs to bring back her urban audience.
And she needs to blaze a trail not follow any. She can be in her own lane .
I'd like for a new sound from her :
Her cover of paint it black meets oh !
Dance like we're making love meets goodies
A universal sound with a lot of urban knock and funk
(https://media.giphy.com/media/OnKlrHN7Decko/giphy.gif)
Quote from: Baph al Mana. on May 22, 2017, 03:28:16 PM
and an undeniable performance.
Dancing and adding shit like theatrics to her performance.
(http://i.imgur.com/ZJi67Us.gif)
and a pre-recorded vocal
(https://media.giphy.com/media/OnKlrHN7Decko/giphy.gif)
I think she's gon pop out with something like starboy. Something light and catchy, but still somethin you can dance to and bump in the hood.
And dip EVERY song in grease
Quote from: OwnIt on May 22, 2017, 03:49:55 PM
Quote from: Baph al Mana. on May 22, 2017, 03:28:16 PM
and an undeniable performance.
Dancing and adding shit like theatrics to her performance.
(http://i.imgur.com/ZJi67Us.gif)
and a pre-recorded vocal
(https://media.giphy.com/media/OnKlrHN7Decko/giphy.gif)
there's some ideas and stage renderings i'd love to suggest/show to her
(http://i68.tinypic.com/qyv85s.jpg)
Russell better make like Samsung and purchase some singles and albums :hmph:
Quote from: Nine on May 22, 2017, 02:55:38 PM
Quote from: Tonkaman on May 22, 2017, 02:42:21 PM
Robin Thicke Blurred Lines, Bruno uptownfunk/24k Magic album, Pharrell Happy is the lane I think she can go.
v
:udontlookok:
I mean, what their still a lol urban and has that pop side that would satisfy her
:udontlookok:
Quote from: Nine on May 22, 2017, 02:57:44 PM
She needs to get back on the track that she was on with "Ciara" basically.
And I want another messy bop like "Sweat"
But is that gonna work for her Now?
Quote from: Baph al Mana. on May 22, 2017, 03:51:55 PM
Quote from: OwnIt on May 22, 2017, 03:49:55 PM
Quote from: Baph al Mana. on May 22, 2017, 03:28:16 PM
and an undeniable performance.
Dancing and adding shit like theatrics to her performance.
(http://i.imgur.com/ZJi67Us.gif)
and a pre-recorded vocal
(https://media.giphy.com/media/OnKlrHN7Decko/giphy.gif)
there's some ideas and stage renderings i'd love to suggest/show to her
(http://i68.tinypic.com/qyv85s.jpg)
:flamebroiled: can I get a preview?
Quote from: Young on May 22, 2017, 03:03:19 PM
Ciara needs to bring her roots that made her POP and blended it with the growth she's shown over the years.
Her look will never be an issue; visually she's always gonna nail it
But she also needs to bring back her urban audience.
And she needs to blaze a trail not follow any. She can be in her own lane .
I'd like for a new sound from her :
Her cover of paint it black meets oh !
Dance like we're making love meets goodies
A universal sound with a lot of urban knock and funk
:gorlonfire:
Quote from: Tonkaman on May 22, 2017, 03:53:45 PM
Quote from: Nine on May 22, 2017, 02:55:38 PM
Quote from: Tonkaman on May 22, 2017, 02:42:21 PM
Robin Thicke Blurred Lines, Bruno uptownfunk/24k Magic album, Pharrell Happy is the lane I think she can go.
v
:udontlookok:
I mean, what their still a lol urban and has that pop side that would satisfy her
:udontlookok:
I could def hear her on a That's What I Like mess
Quote from: Baph al Mana. on May 22, 2017, 03:26:52 PM
She needs to try her hand at doing whats really helping some projects and release a visual mess before the album.
and it needs to be damn amazing. Ciara makes good videos.
something like my bby Allan (hers would gain more attention because she's more mainstream plus bigger budget)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRtXAtzItZM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuYeb09rleg
or The Weeknd
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBsycvSU6r8
and she needs to do songs in vain of "Paint it Black"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYPWxymohWs
and some well produced LEANS. greasy.
(http://i.imgur.com/EauGSnK.jpg?1)
She needs a lil 6 song ep before album.
Quavo^ but yeah. She needs fresh writers and producers. These current producers and writers keep making the same shit over and over
She needs to make specific choices about her sound that people will remember and classify as her own sound. I would infuse the musicality of Promise, Get Up, Paint it Black. Then the lyrical content of the album needs to be personal and not fuckin cheesy. She has to be forthright and unique.
Quote from: LiiVE on May 22, 2017, 03:40:19 PM
Quote from: DAMN. on May 22, 2017, 03:35:00 PM
When Ciara does "pop" it's always kinda corny and late too
There's like no balance
She has the potential but I won't be surprised if she flops again
yeah and she most likely will :hmph: that's why I feel like she needs to be a bit more experimental.
I just don't think Ciara is a very creative person so I hope whoever is handling her knows what they're doing.
i know the guy that made your sig
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Quote from: OwnIt on May 22, 2017, 03:51:22 PM
I think she's gon pop out with something like starboy. Something light and catchy, but still somethin you can dance to and bump in the hood.
And dip EVERY song in grease
And I would LIVE
You know the fuck what! I was trying to be coy, but fuck it I'll get straight to the point. She needs a proper supremo that impacts all formats, not just urban or pop and that can play in the clubs.She hasn't had that in over a decade, that's what I was getting at BY listing those records, not saying she needs to make direct copy of those records.
Quote from: 1RIG on May 22, 2017, 03:30:18 PM
It's crazy because she has all the tools to eat up the charts and gain interest :dead: a few different choices and she'll be fine
This blows my mind, and her manager Idk about her.
:hmph:
Quote from: Tonkaman on May 22, 2017, 04:17:41 PM
Quote from: 1RIG on May 22, 2017, 03:30:18 PM
It's crazy because she has all the tools to eat up the charts and gain interest :dead: a few different choices and she'll be fine
This blows my mind, and her manager Idk about her.
:hmph:
She got rid of that white letty Linda and is managed by Ty Stiklorius they managed john legend and Alicia keys
It honestly doesn't matter what she puts out. She'll never sell more than 100k again.
Even if that is the case. If Post Malone can go platinum, while doing the same amount as Jackie then that would be good enough for Ciara to tour, etc... We're in a new generation, as somebody stated before all she needs is a solid album people connects with because her streaming is not terrible. A few good hits would do wonders for her, Not just one an era.
QuoteStoney debuted at number six on the Billboard 200 with 58,000 album-equivalent units, of which 19,000 were pure album sales.The album sold an additional 30,000 units in its second week of sales.On March 31st, Post announced via Twitter that Stoney went Platinum. On April 12, 2017, the album was certified platinum by the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) for combined sales and album-equivalent units of over a million units.
Quote from: A.I.R on May 22, 2017, 04:07:32 PM
Quote from: LiiVE on May 22, 2017, 03:40:19 PM
Quote from: DAMN. on May 22, 2017, 03:35:00 PM
When Ciara does "pop" it's always kinda corny and late too
There's like no balance
She has the potential but I won't be surprised if she flops again
yeah and she most likely will :hmph: that's why I feel like she needs to be a bit more experimental.
I just don't think Ciara is a very creative person so I hope whoever is handling her knows what they're doing.
i know the guy that made your sig
is this swift?
She's done
Quote from: OwnIt on May 22, 2017, 03:55:28 PM
Quote from: Tonkaman on May 22, 2017, 03:53:45 PM
Quote from: Nine on May 22, 2017, 02:55:38 PM
Quote from: Tonkaman on May 22, 2017, 02:42:21 PM
Robin Thicke Blurred Lines, Bruno uptownfunk/24k Magic album, Pharrell Happy is the lane I think she can go.
v
:udontlookok:
I mean, what their still a lol urban and has that pop side that would satisfy her
:udontlookok:
I could def hear her on a That's What I Like mess
n
At this point, she's only making music for the few fans that stuck around after all the flopping, so do whatever makes them happy.
The jans are in here PISSED
Yummy is FUMED
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KcjHb7OF80
Yeah, it's obvious Ci wants a Daft Punk mess owt. She should come out with a TRAP tea, let it hit #1 on Urban radio and then release a multi-format smash.
She should do a nursery rhyme album. No shade.
I just need something like "Tell Me What Your Name Is"
Quote from: DAMN. on May 22, 2017, 10:58:43 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaJ5MuhDsEg
Ci, wait!
The lyrics are kinda corny but I kinda use.
ssssssss
This is my mess
I can't tell if it's from Jackie or Ciara though
v
I think Ci should go for a Kaytranada sound, I think that mix of fresh electronic/house/urban would make her ass happy and with the right songs it could be dope especially with the right visuals and choreography...
But I still need sis to give me some Mike Will & Metro Boomin leans too
And Ima need Ci to stop giving "Singer" and just fuckin give a laid back lush vocal & coo on a track... I'm tired of this falsetto or ratchet voices she be doin on these songs :dead:
Quote from: Harlem on May 22, 2017, 11:04:38 PM
I think Ci should go for a Kaytranada sound, I think that mix of fresh electronic/house/urban would make her ass happy and with the right songs it could be dope especially with the right visuals and choreography...
But I still need sis to give me some Mike Will & Metro Boomin leans too
I was just thinking that. Play with both electronic/funk and southern bounce sounds, that's up her alley. People loved "1, 2 Step" and "Body Party" don't make imitations but expand on it a bit and get funky.
Also, I wouldn't mind light midtempos like "Someone To Call My Lover" and "I Feel It Coming" sounding tracks. But there's got to be at least 2 slow jams and some grease but I better not hear a trap beat/flow.
I think more dance like were makin love
Pop and rock tracks
Honestly, who cares. She's 31. That ship has sailed.
Ciara is done as far as major commercial success is concerned.
.What she needs to do is focus on R&B music. She always follows up R&B jams with these Pop leaning songs. "Ride" followed up shortly after with "Gimmie Dat". "Sorry" was paired with "Got Me Good". "Body Party" went into "I'm Out".
If she could commit to delivering an era full of R&B records that all sounded like first singles, she would find way more success. Kelly Rowland did the same thing doing that Rihanna demo right after "Motivation". Everyone does this ABCDEFG attempt at getting a quick hit instead of crafting a movement of great music. Take a page out of Beyonce's book. Stop chasing it. Make music in your lane, put more creativity in the videos, do more shows, and let everything roll out organically. There's no reason Ciara couldn't make a record like "Sorry", "Hold Up", "7/11", "Bitch Better Have My Money", "Work", or any of these big records I hear from Beyonce and Rihanna.
She also needs to do more collabos. Link up with Big Sean, Chris Brown, Drake, Migos, etc. Stop trying to ride the fence and do half an album of R&B and half an album of Dr. Luke stuff. She just isn't that girl. Pop programmers will NEVER play her. Plus, she's over 30. Lock in with Urban producers and have fun. She seems to be stuck chasing crossover success or wanting to release records that can be played on all 3 formats. This is not 2008.
Ciara's shameless desire to be mainstream is her downfall. You don't have to chart Top 10 on the Hot 100 to have a successful and consistent era.
Oh, and start dancing again. Not posing in cute clothes. Like, really pushing through with choreography. You're not a singer, hon. Shake that ass on a beat like "Ass" by Big Sean. And sit some of these girls down.
Urban. Straight urban teas. Fuck the pop sound.
Quote from: NIKES. on May 23, 2017, 01:05:05 AM
Honestly, who cares. She's 31. That ship has sailed.
Ciara is done as far as major commercial success is concerned.
.What she needs to do is focus on R&B music. She always follows up R&B jams with these Pop leaning songs. "Ride" followed up shortly after with "Gimmie Dat". "Sorry" was paired with "Got Me Good". "Body Party" went into "I'm Out".
If she could commit to delivering an era full of R&B records that all sounded like first singles, she would find way more success. Kelly Rowland did the same thing doing that Rihanna demo right after "Motivation". Everyone does this ABCDEFG attempt at getting a quick hit instead of crafting a movement of great music. Take a page out of Beyonce's book. Stop chasing it. Make music in your lane, put more creativity in the videos, do more shows, and let everything roll out organically. There's no reason Ciara couldn't make a record like "Sorry", "Hold Up", "7/11", "Bitch Better Have My Money", "Work", or any of these big records I hear from Beyonce and Rihanna.
She also needs to do more collabos. Link up with Big Sean, Chris Brown, Drake, Migos, etc. Stop trying to ride the fence and do half an album of R&B and half an album of Dr. Luke stuff. She just isn't that girl. Pop programmers will NEVER play her. Plus, she's over 30. Lock in with Urban producers and have fun. She seems to be stuck chasing crossover success or wanting to release records that can be played on all 3 formats. This is not 2008.
Ciara's shameless desire to be mainstream is her downfall. You don't have to chart Top 10 on the Hot 100 to have a successful and consistent era.
Oh, and start dancing again. Not posing in cute clothes. Like, really pushing through with choreography. You're not a singer, hon. Shake that ass on a beat like "Ass" by Big Sean. And sit some of these girls down.
ALL OF THIS
Quote from: DAMN. on May 22, 2017, 10:58:43 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaJ5MuhDsEg
Ci, wait!
The lyrics are kinda corny but I kinda use.
NOT from the new album. This is from the Ciara sessions.
Quote from: NIKES. on May 23, 2017, 01:05:05 AM
Honestly, who cares. She's 31. That ship has sailed.
Ciara is done as far as major commercial success is concerned.
.What she needs to do is focus on R&B music. She always follows up R&B jams with these Pop leaning songs. "Ride" followed up shortly after with "Gimmie Dat". "Sorry" was paired with "Got Me Good". "Body Party" went into "I'm Out".
If she could commit to delivering an era full of R&B records that all sounded like first singles, she would find way more success. Kelly Rowland did the same thing doing that Rihanna demo right after "Motivation". Everyone does this ABCDEFG attempt at getting a quick hit instead of crafting a movement of great music. Take a page out of Beyonce's book. Stop chasing it. Make music in your lane, put more creativity in the videos, do more shows, and let everything roll out organically. There's no reason Ciara couldn't make a record like "Sorry", "Hold Up", "7/11", "Bitch Better Have My Money", "Work", or any of these big records I hear from Beyonce and Rihanna.
She also needs to do more collabos. Link up with Big Sean, Chris Brown, Drake, Migos, etc. Stop trying to ride the fence and do half an album of R&B and half an album of Dr. Luke stuff. She just isn't that girl. Pop programmers will NEVER play her. Plus, she's over 30. Lock in with Urban producers and have fun. She seems to be stuck chasing crossover success or wanting to release records that can be played on all 3 formats. This is not 2008.
Ciara's shameless desire to be mainstream is her downfall. You don't have to chart Top 10 on the Hot 100 to have a successful and consistent era.
Oh, and start dancing again. Not posing in cute clothes. Like, really pushing through with choreography. You're not a singer, hon. Shake that ass on a beat like "Ass" by Big Sean. And sit some of these girls down.
I agree, except the 1st paragraph
:butwait!:
I think the moment she stops chasing, everything will come together for her.
not "Ass" by Big Sean d
Quote from: DAMN. on May 23, 2017, 01:45:57 AM
that's all u got from the whole post? n
N
As if I literally meant that record.
Quote from: driskell. on May 23, 2017, 01:48:54 AM
Quote from: NIKES. on May 23, 2017, 01:05:05 AM
Honestly, who cares. She's 31. That ship has sailed.
Ciara is done as far as major commercial success is concerned.
.What she needs to do is focus on R&B music. She always follows up R&B jams with these Pop leaning songs. "Ride" followed up shortly after with "Gimmie Dat". "Sorry" was paired with "Got Me Good". "Body Party" went into "I'm Out".
If she could commit to delivering an era full of R&B records that all sounded like first singles, she would find way more success. Kelly Rowland did the same thing doing that Rihanna demo right after "Motivation". Everyone does this ABCDEFG attempt at getting a quick hit instead of crafting a movement of great music. Take a page out of Beyonce's book. Stop chasing it. Make music in your lane, put more creativity in the videos, do more shows, and let everything roll out organically. There's no reason Ciara couldn't make a record like "Sorry", "Hold Up", "7/11", "Bitch Better Have My Money", "Work", or any of these big records I hear from Beyonce and Rihanna.
She also needs to do more collabos. Link up with Big Sean, Chris Brown, Drake, Migos, etc. Stop trying to ride the fence and do half an album of R&B and half an album of Dr. Luke stuff. She just isn't that girl. Pop programmers will NEVER play her. Plus, she's over 30. Lock in with Urban producers and have fun. She seems to be stuck chasing crossover success or wanting to release records that can be played on all 3 formats. This is not 2008.
Ciara's shameless desire to be mainstream is her downfall. You don't have to chart Top 10 on the Hot 100 to have a successful and consistent era.
Oh, and start dancing again. Not posing in cute clothes. Like, really pushing through with choreography. You're not a singer, hon. Shake that ass on a beat like "Ass" by Big Sean. And sit some of these girls down.
gor i will fuck u up
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Quote from: DAMN. on May 23, 2017, 01:45:57 AM
that's all u got from the whole post? n
No. :uhh:
Quote from: Tonkaman on May 23, 2017, 01:41:29 AM
Quote from: NIKES. on May 23, 2017, 01:05:05 AM
Honestly, who cares. She's 31. That ship has sailed.
Ciara is done as far as major commercial success is concerned.
.What she needs to do is focus on R&B music. She always follows up R&B jams with these Pop leaning songs. "Ride" followed up shortly after with "Gimmie Dat". "Sorry" was paired with "Got Me Good". "Body Party" went into "I'm Out".
If she could commit to delivering an era full of R&B records that all sounded like first singles, she would find way more success. Kelly Rowland did the same thing doing that Rihanna demo right after "Motivation". Everyone does this ABCDEFG attempt at getting a quick hit instead of crafting a movement of great music. Take a page out of Beyonce's book. Stop chasing it. Make music in your lane, put more creativity in the videos, do more shows, and let everything roll out organically. There's no reason Ciara couldn't make a record like "Sorry", "Hold Up", "7/11", "Bitch Better Have My Money", "Work", or any of these big records I hear from Beyonce and Rihanna.
She also needs to do more collabos. Link up with Big Sean, Chris Brown, Drake, Migos, etc. Stop trying to ride the fence and do half an album of R&B and half an album of Dr. Luke stuff. She just isn't that girl. Pop programmers will NEVER play her. Plus, she's over 30. Lock in with Urban producers and have fun. She seems to be stuck chasing crossover success or wanting to release records that can be played on all 3 formats. This is not 2008.
Ciara's shameless desire to be mainstream is her downfall. You don't have to chart Top 10 on the Hot 100 to have a successful and consistent era.
Oh, and start dancing again. Not posing in cute clothes. Like, really pushing through with choreography. You're not a singer, hon. Shake that ass on a beat like "Ass" by Big Sean. And sit some of these girls down.
I agree, except the 1st paragraph
:butwait!:
I think the moment she stops chasing, everything will come together for her.
Quote from: MΛΥDΛΥ on May 22, 2017, 04:33:26 PM
It honestly doesn't matter what she puts out. She'll never sell more than 100k again.
Tbh this is the direction her album is going
(http://i68.tinypic.com/wqjc4.jpg)