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Title: Chadwick Boseman's Role As Thurgood Marshall Sparks Colorism Debate
Post by: Freemala Harris on June 27, 2017, 02:47:59 AM
Here's Why a Black Actor's New Role Is Causing a Big Debate About Skin Color

Chadwick Boseman, the same actor who played Jackie Robinson and James Brown will be playing another black American icon: Justice Thurgood Marshall.

However, his latest role is causing some controversy.

Boseman is a darker black man, but the famous attorney and Justice was very light-skinned.

Why would Boseman's skin color matter?

The distinction is important because of colorism, or the privilege lighter-skinned black people receive within their own community and in broader society compared with darker-skinned black people.

The phenomenon has ties to the legacy of trans-Atlantic slavery, and colorism also pervades other non-white societies around the globe, often stemming from a history of colonialism.

In an interview with late night comedian Jimmy Kimmel, Boseman said he initially didn't want to play Thurgood because he was light-skinned.

"I didn't want to do it at first because Thurgood Marshall is a lot lighter than me. I don't look like him in terms of complexion," Boseman said in the interview posted to Youtube on Wednesday.

"Once I read it, I realized that really wasn't important. You know, each movie you do about a real person, it's a painting and you choose certain things in the painting you want to pull out and you want to show, so for this one it was the spirit of the man."

This isn't the first time that the casting of a historical black figure has prompted a debate about colorism.

Zoe Saldana, a light-skinned actor, received huge backlash for her portrayal of music icon and civil rights activist Nina Simone, who was dark-skinned and often spoke about it.


In the film Saldana's skin was darkened and she wore a prosthetic nose. Some people tweeted that Boseman's portrayal is much more acceptable because he doesn't wear a prosthetic or "blackface" makeup.

(https://i.imgur.com/A6oDNVq.png)

Full Article: https://www.attn.com/stories/17889/heres-why-black-actors-new-role-causing-big-debate-about-skin-color

Thoughts?
Title: Re: Chadwick Boseman's Role As Thurgood Marshall Sparks Colorism Debate
Post by: FlowerBomb on June 27, 2017, 02:51:08 AM
 :uhh:
Title: Re: Chadwick Boseman's Role As Thurgood Marshall Sparks Colorism Debate
Post by: BAPHOMET. on June 27, 2017, 02:51:16 AM
its only right they should get someone the same complexion. tbh
Title: Re: Chadwick Boseman's Role As Thurgood Marshall Sparks Colorism Debate
Post by: MAY on June 27, 2017, 02:51:18 AM
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Title: Re: Chadwick Boseman's Role As Thurgood Marshall Sparks Colorism Debate
Post by: GRAND on June 27, 2017, 03:01:21 AM
They can get the eldest brother from Empire if they wanna recast :young:
Title: Re: Chadwick Boseman's Role As Thurgood Marshall Sparks Colorism Debate
Post by: Sinpool on June 27, 2017, 03:05:49 AM
njcsddddd

I always wondered why Hollywood only cares about Black Skin color when its convenient

Like how they will hire someone who looks like Lupita but then hire someone who looks like Zendaya to play her in a flashback
Title: Re: Chadwick Boseman's Role As Thurgood Marshall Sparks Colorism Debate
Post by: FlowerBomb on June 27, 2017, 04:21:23 AM
You a.a's.
Title: Re: Chadwick Boseman's Role As Thurgood Marshall Sparks Colorism Debate
Post by: SouravMay on June 27, 2017, 04:22:23 AM
Quote from: Drew Berrymore on June 27, 2017, 03:05:49 AM
njcsddddd

I always wondered why Hollywood only cares about Black Skin color when its convenient

Like how they will hire someone who looks like Lupita but then hire someone who looks like Zendaya to play her in a flashback


!!!!

I never got that. They do it with Hispanics too. Hire black Dominicans to play Mexicans etc.

Apparently this guy was extremely light skin, so I do think the actor should match. However for Mandela and Malcolm they "blackwashed" their roles as well.
Title: Re: Chadwick Boseman's Role As Thurgood Marshall Sparks Colorism Debate
Post by: 4 fucking k on June 27, 2017, 04:23:24 AM
Horrible casting wtf
Title: Re: Chadwick Boseman's Role As Thurgood Marshall Sparks Colorism Debate
Post by: FlowerBomb on June 27, 2017, 04:24:45 AM
They "blackwashed" Mandela and Malcolm x with Denzel and Idris?
Title: Re: Chadwick Boseman's Role As Thurgood Marshall Sparks Colorism Debate
Post by: SouravMay on June 27, 2017, 04:26:41 AM
Quote from: UBH on June 27, 2017, 04:24:45 AM
They "blackwashed" Mandela and Malcolm x with Denzel and Idris?

Both were significantly lighter in complexion than the actor who portrayed them.
Title: Re: Chadwick Boseman's Role As Thurgood Marshall Sparks Colorism Debate
Post by: Freemala Harris on June 27, 2017, 04:30:27 AM
Quote from: شيطان on June 27, 2017, 04:26:41 AM
Quote from: UBH on June 27, 2017, 04:24:45 AM
They "blackwashed" Mandela and Malcolm x with Denzel and Idris?

Both were significantly lighter in complexion than the actor who portrayed them.

Hmm they did mention that on twitter earlier as well

A good thread:

https://twitter.com/MatthewACherry/status/877963996766195712

Although a lot of people were saying people glanced over it because of how well Denzel(of course) played the role

(https://i.imgur.com/48QpV15.png)
Title: Re: Chadwick Boseman's Role As Thurgood Marshall Sparks Colorism Debate
Post by: FlowerBomb on June 27, 2017, 04:31:48 AM
fffffffffff
:dead: omg people will literally complain about ANYTHING
Title: Re: Chadwick Boseman's Role As Thurgood Marshall Sparks Colorism Debate
Post by: Gilgamesh. on June 27, 2017, 04:34:48 AM
He looks nothing like him. This is really sloppy on their part and if it was a woman it would cause massive backlash.
Title: Re: Chadwick Boseman's Role As Thurgood Marshall Sparks Colorism Debate
Post by: Freemala Harris on June 27, 2017, 04:34:51 AM
This was just outrageous though

(https://i.imgur.com/wB1s2D4.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/IWdrydC.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3EWygLE_No

zoe gor

hhh she didn't even look real. This caked on CLAY
Title: Re: Chadwick Boseman's Role As Thurgood Marshall Sparks Colorism Debate
Post by: Freemala Harris on June 27, 2017, 04:36:16 AM
Quote from: شيطان on June 27, 2017, 04:22:23 AM
Quote from: Drew Berrymore on June 27, 2017, 03:05:49 AM
njcsddddd

I always wondered why Hollywood only cares about Black Skin color when its convenient

Like how they will hire someone who looks like Lupita but then hire someone who looks like Zendaya to play her in a flashback


!!!!

I never got that. They do it with Hispanics too. Hire black Dominicans to play Mexicans etc.

Apparently this guy was extremely light skin, so I do think the actor should match. However for Mandela and Malcolm they "blackwashed" their roles as well.

hhh I really think they believe all non-black people in their respective categories look alike

That aaliyah biopic was a fool
Title: Re: Chadwick Boseman's Role As Thurgood Marshall Sparks Colorism Debate
Post by: FlowerBomb on June 27, 2017, 04:36:17 AM
Quote from: Freeruu on June 27, 2017, 04:34:51 AM
This was just outrageous though

(https://i.imgur.com/wB1s2D4.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/IWdrydC.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3EWygLE_No

zoe gor

hhh she didn't even look real. This caked on CLAY
Yh THIS was the fool
Title: Re: Chadwick Boseman's Role As Thurgood Marshall Sparks Colorism Debate
Post by: Gilgamesh. on June 27, 2017, 04:37:43 AM
ddddd

Not a prosthetic nose and Black face. Zoe, what the fuck is yew doing? :everythingok:
Title: Re: Chadwick Boseman's Role As Thurgood Marshall Sparks Colorism Debate
Post by: BAPHOMET. on June 27, 2017, 04:38:29 AM
THIS is a fool. Chad' and that man are on completely different sides of the color wheel :dead: wtf

Its like... not even believable.
Title: Re: Chadwick Boseman's Role As Thurgood Marshall Sparks Colorism Debate
Post by: BAPHOMET. on June 27, 2017, 04:39:00 AM
 :ohwow: hope this ends him. So all the focus can be on Micahel B Jordan
Title: Re: Chadwick Boseman's Role As Thurgood Marshall Sparks Colorism Debate
Post by: FlowerBomb on June 27, 2017, 04:41:11 AM
n
plea'
Title: Re: Chadwick Boseman's Role As Thurgood Marshall Sparks Colorism Debate
Post by: SouravMay on June 27, 2017, 04:42:22 AM
Did it play a role in that person's life that he was light, that's what I'm trying to know... If yes, they should definitely recast with someone that looks like the 40% black guy i posted about.
Title: Re: Chadwick Boseman's Role As Thurgood Marshall Sparks Colorism Debate
Post by: BigDawg on June 27, 2017, 04:47:45 AM
This is so stupid.

Now people are complaining that this man is too dark to play TM?!
Title: Re: Chadwick Boseman's Role As Thurgood Marshall Sparks Colorism Debate
Post by: yummy on June 27, 2017, 05:44:47 AM
If you know anything about Thurgood Marshall, him being lightskinned is what helped him work his way through the legal system. I know Chadwick is a hot commodity rn but this look sloppy.
Title: Re: Chadwick Boseman's Role As Thurgood Marshall Sparks Colorism Debate
Post by: KING BENTLEY. on June 27, 2017, 06:01:43 AM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on June 27, 2017, 05:44:47 AM
If you know anything about Thurgood Marshall, him being lightskinned is what helped him work his way through the legal system. I know Chadwick is a hot commodity rn but this look sloppy.
!!!!!!!!!
It helped him greatly as it did other blacks in government and political positions before him

The purpose of biopic casting is to match an actors look as closely to the subject character as possible and hope they nail the personality.
Title: Re: Chadwick Boseman's Role As Thurgood Marshall Sparks Colorism Debate
Post by: Lane Bryant Jumpsuit on June 27, 2017, 06:24:02 AM
i mean its nothing to put some lighter makeup and a perm
but i would have to see the movie to see whats what

i think his skintone should take a backseat to his story tbh
Title: Re: Chadwick Boseman's Role As Thurgood Marshall Sparks Colorism Debate
Post by: GLOCK on June 27, 2017, 07:21:44 AM
Quote from: شيطان on June 27, 2017, 04:42:22 AM
Did it play a role in that person's life that he was light, that's what I'm trying to know... If yes, they should definitely recast with someone that looks like the 40% black guy i posted about.
:dead:
Title: Re: Chadwick Boseman's Role As Thurgood Marshall Sparks Colorism Debate
Post by: GLOCK on June 27, 2017, 07:22:24 AM
lol the movie comes out next month
Really bad casting
Title: Re: Chadwick Boseman's Role As Thurgood Marshall Sparks Colorism Debate
Post by: AIDS on June 27, 2017, 07:22:38 AM
ssssssssssssssssss
Title: Re: Chadwick Boseman's Role As Thurgood Marshall Sparks Colorism Debate
Post by: GLOCK on June 27, 2017, 07:22:57 AM
https://youtu.be/C_bfOWof0Sg
Title: Re: Chadwick Boseman's Role As Thurgood Marshall Sparks Colorism Debate
Post by: AIDS on June 27, 2017, 07:25:00 AM
Quote from: Same Ol' G on June 27, 2017, 07:22:24 AM
lol the movie comes out next month
Really bad casting

next month is October?  :unsure:
Title: Re: Chadwick Boseman's Role As Thurgood Marshall Sparks Colorism Debate
Post by: STUNNA GOD on June 27, 2017, 07:32:23 AM
H

I mean..... If it was the other way around.... You can't pick and choose.
Title: Re: Chadwick Boseman's Role As Thurgood Marshall Sparks Colorism Debate
Post by: STUNNA GOD on June 27, 2017, 07:34:35 AM
Quote from: ORORO MUNROE-UDAKU on June 27, 2017, 06:01:43 AM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on June 27, 2017, 05:44:47 AM
If you know anything about Thurgood Marshall, him being lightskinned is what helped him work his way through the legal system. I know Chadwick is a hot commodity rn but this look sloppy.
!!!!!!!!!
It helped him greatly as it did other blacks in government and political positions before him

The purpose of biopic casting is to match an actors look as closely to the subject character as possible and hope they nail the personality.
!!!!!!!!

And capture the story. If his light skin tone played a major role in his story, this casting makes absolutely no sense. :dead:
Title: Re: Chadwick Boseman's Role As Thurgood Marshall Sparks Colorism Debate
Post by: GLOCK on June 27, 2017, 07:38:44 AM
Quote from: Fuck you. on June 27, 2017, 07:25:00 AM
Quote from: Same Ol' G on June 27, 2017, 07:22:24 AM
lol the movie comes out next month
Really bad casting

next month is October?  :unsure:
I was being facetious
I'm saying it can't be recasted because it's already "out"
Title: Re: Chadwick Boseman's Role As Thurgood Marshall Sparks Colorism Debate
Post by: AIDS on June 27, 2017, 07:39:06 AM
I'll whoop your ass
Title: Re: Chadwick Boseman's Role As Thurgood Marshall Sparks Colorism Debate
Post by: GLOCK on June 27, 2017, 07:50:01 AM
Quote from: Fuck you. on June 27, 2017, 07:39:06 AM
I'll whoop your ass
kandi is ugly hun
Title: Re: Chadwick Boseman's Role As Thurgood Marshall Sparks Colorism Debate
Post by: AIDS on June 27, 2017, 07:52:36 AM
I agree
Title: Re: Chadwick Boseman's Role As Thurgood Marshall Sparks Colorism Debate
Post by: Opposites Attract. on June 27, 2017, 07:57:43 AM
Quote from: BigDawg on June 27, 2017, 04:47:45 AM
This is so stupid.

Now people are complaining that this man is too dark to play TM?!
ofuckingkay?

Angela Bassett, a dark skinned woman, played Light Skin Tina Turner, and slayed in the role. The role shouldn't go to who looks the fucking part. It should go to who can deliver the work the best. I really can't believe black people are upset over this. How fucking disgusting.

Never see white complaining about who's paler than the other. Who's more Orange! Pink!
Title: Re: Chadwick Boseman's Role As Thurgood Marshall Sparks Colorism Debate
Post by: GRAND on June 27, 2017, 08:09:41 AM
Am I one of the few people who never cared if an actor looked like whoever theyre portraying?

:guys:

In fact I don't prefer it. I feel like it takes away from the art itself as we're focused on that person and how well they can/cannot mimic the deceased

Title: Re: Chadwick Boseman's Role As Thurgood Marshall Sparks Colorism Debate
Post by: yummy on June 27, 2017, 08:11:01 AM
Quote from: Trey on June 27, 2017, 07:34:35 AM
Quote from: ORORO MUNROE-UDAKU on June 27, 2017, 06:01:43 AM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on June 27, 2017, 05:44:47 AM
If you know anything about Thurgood Marshall, him being lightskinned is what helped him work his way through the legal system. I know Chadwick is a hot commodity rn but this look sloppy.
!!!!!!!!!
It helped him greatly as it did other blacks in government and political positions before him

The purpose of biopic casting is to match an actors look as closely to the subject character as possible and hope they nail the personality.
!!!!!!!!

And capture the story. If his light skin tone played a major role in his story, this casting makes absolutely no sense. :dead:

Right. Overlooking an integral part of the subject's life to cast someone with a lot of star power is tacky as hell.

Hope this mess flops lol!
Title: Re: Chadwick Boseman's Role As Thurgood Marshall Sparks Colorism Debate
Post by: yummy on June 27, 2017, 08:12:18 AM
And if they hired Halle Berry to play Michelle Obama, the reactions would be totally different but woo! stop complaining!
Title: Re: Chadwick Boseman's Role As Thurgood Marshall Sparks Colorism Debate
Post by: FlowerBomb on June 27, 2017, 08:12:36 AM
ffffm
I'm sorry but for Malcolm X and Mandela I didn't even think about Idris's or Denzel's complexion :dead:
I wouldn't even call that "blackwashing", the opposite term means when everything black or non white is erased and replaced for white characters or culture. I don't even see the major difference in their complexion to be honest.
Title: Re: Chadwick Boseman's Role As Thurgood Marshall Sparks Colorism Debate
Post by: FlowerBomb on June 27, 2017, 08:13:40 AM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on June 27, 2017, 08:12:18 AM
And if they hired Halle Berry to play Michelle Obama, the reactions would be totally different but woo! stop complaining!
But that isn't that big of a reach, unlike the Zoe Salanda and Nina Simone one :dead:
Title: Re: Chadwick Boseman's Role As Thurgood Marshall Sparks Colorism Debate
Post by: Opposites Attract. on June 27, 2017, 08:13:56 AM
Well yeah Halle can't fucking act.
Title: Re: Chadwick Boseman's Role As Thurgood Marshall Sparks Colorism Debate
Post by: GRAND on June 27, 2017, 08:17:31 AM
Quote from: KhoiZan on June 27, 2017, 08:10:49 AM
Quote from: LORD GRAND SUPREME PRIME CELESTIAL MARSHALL on June 27, 2017, 08:09:41 AM
Am I one of the few people who never cared if an actor looked like whoever theyre portraying?

:guys:

In fact I don't prefer it. I feel like it takes away from the art itself as we're focused on that person and how well they can/cannot mimic the deceased
It depends on how connected I am with the person.

If they hired J-Lo for the Toni biopic I'd be like wtf? :guys: No fucking dice

I wanna feel like I'm looking at GODni.
cxxxxxxxx

oh no i agree with that

i just think as long as theyre the same race its fine

i never really took color into consideration, even though we all have different experiences
Title: Re: Chadwick Boseman's Role As Thurgood Marshall Sparks Colorism Debate
Post by: yummy on June 27, 2017, 08:19:41 AM
Quote from: UBH on June 27, 2017, 08:13:40 AM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on June 27, 2017, 08:12:18 AM
And if they hired Halle Berry to play Michelle Obama, the reactions would be totally different but woo! stop complaining!
But that isn't that big of a reach

d

Bye Jayden  :dead:
Title: Re: Chadwick Boseman's Role As Thurgood Marshall Sparks Colorism Debate
Post by: FlowerBomb on June 27, 2017, 08:20:51 AM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on June 27, 2017, 08:19:41 AM
Quote from: UBH on June 27, 2017, 08:13:40 AM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on June 27, 2017, 08:12:18 AM
And if they hired Halle Berry to play Michelle Obama, the reactions would be totally different but woo! stop complaining!
But that isn't that big of a reach

d

Bye Jayden  :dead:
Im serious
Michelle is a brown skinned woman, Halle is light :dead:
Now if they got Halle to play Oprah then I'd be  :uhh:
Title: Re: Chadwick Boseman's Role As Thurgood Marshall Sparks Colorism Debate
Post by: RAY7 on June 27, 2017, 08:23:05 AM
I think the current political climate has ppl really on edge
and ready to argue about anything.
Angela Basset has played women of pretty much every complexion in the past with no problem
and Flex played Michael Jackson
I'm sure Chadwick will do well with the role
Title: Re: Chadwick Boseman's Role As Thurgood Marshall Sparks Colorism Debate
Post by: GRAND on June 27, 2017, 08:23:25 AM
Quote from: KhoiZan on June 27, 2017, 08:22:39 AM
Quote from: LORD GRAND SUPREME PRIME CELESTIAL MARSHALL on June 27, 2017, 08:17:31 AM
Quote from: KhoiZan on June 27, 2017, 08:10:49 AM
Quote from: LORD GRAND SUPREME PRIME CELESTIAL MARSHALL on June 27, 2017, 08:09:41 AM
Am I one of the few people who never cared if an actor looked like whoever theyre portraying?

:guys:

In fact I don't prefer it. I feel like it takes away from the art itself as we're focused on that person and how well they can/cannot mimic the deceased
It depends on how connected I am with the person.

If they hired J-Lo for the Toni biopic I'd be like wtf? :guys: No fucking dice

I wanna feel like I'm looking at GODni.
cxxxxxxxx

oh no i agree with that

i just think as long as theyre the same race its fine

i never really took color into consideration, even though we all have different experiences
oh i agree.

even now, looking at these denzel and malcolm pics side by side i still see a doppelganger mess owt.
!!!!

Both fine :wellheythere:
Title: Re: Chadwick Boseman's Role As Thurgood Marshall Sparks Colorism Debate
Post by: FlowerBomb on June 27, 2017, 08:24:31 AM
Quote from: AYR on June 27, 2017, 08:23:05 AM
Flex played Michael Jackson
yh but..
Title: Re: Chadwick Boseman's Role As Thurgood Marshall Sparks Colorism Debate
Post by: FlowerBomb on June 27, 2017, 08:24:58 AM
 :udontlookok:
Title: Re: Chadwick Boseman's Role As Thurgood Marshall Sparks Colorism Debate
Post by: RAY7 on June 27, 2017, 08:26:02 AM
Quote from: UBH on June 27, 2017, 08:20:51 AM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on June 27, 2017, 08:19:41 AM
Quote from: UBH on June 27, 2017, 08:13:40 AM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on June 27, 2017, 08:12:18 AM
And if they hired Halle Berry to play Michelle Obama, the reactions would be totally different but woo! stop complaining!
But that isn't that big of a reach

d

Bye Jayden  :dead:
Im serious
Michelle is a brown skinned woman, Halle is light :dead:
Now if they got Halle to play Oprah then I'd be  :uhh:
they had Tika Sumpter as Michelle and she's clearly darker
Title: Re: Chadwick Boseman's Role As Thurgood Marshall Sparks Colorism Debate
Post by: Lane Bryant Jumpsuit on June 27, 2017, 08:26:28 AM
Quote from: Kordei Jauregui. on June 27, 2017, 08:13:56 AM
Well yeah Halle can't fucking act.

she cant?

i think with the right material she can do great work

last good acting ive seen from her was perfect stranger
Title: Re: Chadwick Boseman's Role As Thurgood Marshall Sparks Colorism Debate
Post by: Lane Bryant Jumpsuit on June 27, 2017, 08:27:26 AM
Quote from: AYR on June 27, 2017, 08:26:02 AM
Quote from: UBH on June 27, 2017, 08:20:51 AM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on June 27, 2017, 08:19:41 AM
Quote from: UBH on June 27, 2017, 08:13:40 AM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on June 27, 2017, 08:12:18 AM
And if they hired Halle Berry to play Michelle Obama, the reactions would be totally different but woo! stop complaining!
But that isn't that big of a reach

d

Bye Jayden  :dead:
Im serious
Michelle is a brown skinned woman, Halle is light :dead:
Now if they got Halle to play Oprah then I'd be  :uhh:
they had Tika Sumpter as Michelle and she's clearly darker

she didnt fit that to me
but not because she was darker just because tika is not really a sista girl
Title: Re: Chadwick Boseman's Role As Thurgood Marshall Sparks Colorism Debate
Post by: FlowerBomb on June 27, 2017, 08:27:33 AM
Quote from: AYR on June 27, 2017, 08:26:02 AM
Quote from: UBH on June 27, 2017, 08:20:51 AM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on June 27, 2017, 08:19:41 AM
Quote from: UBH on June 27, 2017, 08:13:40 AM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on June 27, 2017, 08:12:18 AM
And if they hired Halle Berry to play Michelle Obama, the reactions would be totally different but woo! stop complaining!
But that isn't that big of a reach

d

Bye Jayden  :dead:
Im serious
Michelle is a brown skinned woman, Halle is light :dead:
Now if they got Halle to play Oprah then I'd be  :uhh:
they had Tika Sumpter as Michelle and she's clearly darker
I'm sure they pulled that off
Title: Re: Chadwick Boseman's Role As Thurgood Marshall Sparks Colorism Debate
Post by: FlowerBomb on June 27, 2017, 08:29:21 AM
But in this case him being a lighter skinned black man apparently is central to the story so I can see why people are upset.
I thought people were annoyed just because Chadwick was darker period. :dead:
Title: Re: Chadwick Boseman's Role As Thurgood Marshall Sparks Colorism Debate
Post by: RAY7 on June 27, 2017, 08:29:39 AM
Quote from: UBH on June 27, 2017, 08:24:31 AM
Quote from: AYR on June 27, 2017, 08:23:05 AM
Flex played Michael Jackson
yh but..
it was a mess but I don't remember a big backlash
maybe because I was young
Title: Re: Chadwick Boseman's Role As Thurgood Marshall Sparks Colorism Debate
Post by: FlowerBomb on June 27, 2017, 08:32:58 AM
Quote from: KhoiZan on June 27, 2017, 08:31:32 AM
I think it's where ur from too.

And maybe family?

I wasn't really used to hearing terms like "ooh look she light skindededed  :ohwow: ", "oooh she got that good hair" and mess in my house. So I never really focused on color -- to the point where I barely even really separated whites from Blacks. :plzstop: I mean I could tell the difference visually (duh) but I had to actually LEARN the social complexities behind what I saw on the surface.
!!!
I only saw and STILL see Light, Brown and Dark
all these other tones are just extra
Yellowbone? Redbone?
what's that
:udontlookok:
Title: Re: Chadwick Boseman's Role As Thurgood Marshall Sparks Colorism Debate
Post by: Steffon on June 27, 2017, 08:45:44 AM
Such an underrated actor. He is so amazing
Title: Re: Chadwick Boseman's Role As Thurgood Marshall Sparks Colorism Debate
Post by: GLOCK on June 27, 2017, 09:24:23 AM
Quote from: Fuck you. on June 27, 2017, 07:52:36 AM
I agree
:guys:
Title: Re: Chadwick Boseman's Role As Thurgood Marshall Sparks Colorism Debate
Post by: GLOCK on June 27, 2017, 09:26:29 AM
Quote from: Kordei Jauregui. on June 27, 2017, 07:57:43 AM
Quote from: BigDawg on June 27, 2017, 04:47:45 AM
This is so stupid.

Now people are complaining that this man is too dark to play TM?!
ofuckingkay?

Angela Bassett, a dark skinned woman, played Light Skin Tina Turner, and slayed in the role. The role shouldn't go to who looks the fucking part. It should go to who can deliver the work the best. I really can't believe black people are upset over this. How fucking disgusting.

Never see white complaining about who's paler than the other. Who's more Orange! Pink!
But the major issue is that marshall was known as someone that could pass
His family as well  :dead:
That makes things a bit different and u can't compare Caucasians to blacks when there's a reason why we range in skin tones .. largely because of their mess...
So again..
This was poorly casted. Being able to pass was a HUGE thing during his era

So ur wrong bby bro
Title: Re: Chadwick Boseman's Role As Thurgood Marshall Sparks Colorism Debate
Post by: GLOCK on June 27, 2017, 09:28:16 AM
Quote from: UBH on June 27, 2017, 08:20:51 AM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on June 27, 2017, 08:19:41 AM
Quote from: UBH on June 27, 2017, 08:13:40 AM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on June 27, 2017, 08:12:18 AM
And if they hired Halle Berry to play Michelle Obama, the reactions would be totally different but woo! stop complaining!
But that isn't that big of a reach

d

Bye Jayden  :dead:
Im serious
Michelle is a brown skinned woman, Halle is light :dead:
Now if they got Halle to play Oprah then I'd be  :uhh:
there is no difference there  :plzstop:
Title: Re: Chadwick Boseman's Role As Thurgood Marshall Sparks Colorism Debate
Post by: AIDS on June 27, 2017, 09:29:22 AM
Jayden boy
Title: Re: Chadwick Boseman's Role As Thurgood Marshall Sparks Colorism Debate
Post by: AIDS on June 27, 2017, 09:31:17 AM
who Michelle wants to play her may not matter as they often don't even consult certain people when they do these biopics. But I agree she doesn't seem like she's out of touch
Title: Re: Chadwick Boseman's Role As Thurgood Marshall Sparks Colorism Debate
Post by: Nine on June 27, 2017, 09:34:52 AM
Book King Chad'!
Title: Re: Chadwick Boseman's Role As Thurgood Marshall Sparks Colorism Debate
Post by: FlowerBomb on June 27, 2017, 09:43:06 AM
Afro use a real Mandela pic, that mannequin is scary as hell
King looks embalmed  :bvy:
Title: Re: Chadwick Boseman's Role As Thurgood Marshall Sparks Colorism Debate
Post by: KING BENTLEY. on June 27, 2017, 11:27:56 AM
IMO it's not the fact of colorism "shouldn't" matter

It's the fact that it DID :dead:
And that's what a biopic is, an entertaining historical account

They didn't seek a fat latina to play Selena
And thy didn't seek Leslie Jones for Dorothy Dandridge

If you're interested in the subject of a biopic, their look can play a role in how their life went

We were lucky enough to get into the Smithsonian AA Culture & History museum while in DC and looking all the way back, to Booker and W.E.B., Benjamin Banneker, blacks need to look up pictures of all these names they hear about, you'll see a lot of hazel eyes and different hair textures :dead:

Harriet and Sijourner did a lot but a certain skin tone could get into places they couldn't without an epic fight ... a certain "look" got you farther

We don't like to admit colorism sometimes played a huge role in our advancement because of filthy white Neanderthals and their predatory thinking. Because while massa's interacial children were still black, they were more accepted and while the goal was the same, it was two totally different paths. They could get educated easier.

Am mean ... 'Bama is light skin. I wouldn't say it played a HUGE role, but if there's ever a biopic I don't want someone with Wesley Snipes tone playing bruv
Title: Re: Chadwick Boseman's Role As Thurgood Marshall Sparks Colorism Debate
Post by: RAY7 on June 27, 2017, 11:59:36 AM
Bent have you seen Southside With You?
Title: Re: Chadwick Boseman's Role As Thurgood Marshall Sparks Colorism Debate
Post by: KING BENTLEY. on June 27, 2017, 12:00:49 PM
Nah I haven't.... lemme google it up real qui'
Title: Re: Chadwick Boseman's Role As Thurgood Marshall Sparks Colorism Debate
Post by: yummy on June 27, 2017, 12:06:47 PM
Quote from: ORORO MUNROE-UDAKU on June 27, 2017, 11:27:56 AM
IMO it's not the fact of colorism "shouldn't" matter

It's the fact that it DID :dead:
And that's what a biopic is, an entertaining historical account

They didn't seek a fat latina to play Selena
And they didn't seek Leslie Jones for Dorothy Dandridge

If you're interested in the subject of a biopic, their look can play a role in how their life went

We were lucky enough to get into the Smithsonian AA Culture & History museum while in DC and looking all the way back, to Booker and W.E.B., Benjamin Banneker, blacks need to look up pictures of all these names they hear about, you'll see a lot of hazel eyes and different hair textures :dead:

Harriet and Sijourner did a lot but a certain skin tone could get into places they couldn't without an epic fight ... a certain "look" got you farther

We don't like to admit colorism sometimes played a huge role in our advancement because of filthy white Neanderthals and their predatory thinking. Because while massa's interacial children were still black, they were more accepted and while the goal was the same, it was two totally different paths. They could get educated easier.

Am mean ... 'Bama is light skin. I wouldn't say it played a HUGE role, but if there's ever a biopic I don't want someone with Wesley Snipes tone playing bruv

:dead: :dead: :dead: :dead: :dead:
Title: Re: Chadwick Boseman's Role As Thurgood Marshall Sparks Colorism Debate
Post by: BAPHOMET. on June 27, 2017, 12:28:08 PM
Love this thread tbh
Title: Re: Chadwick Boseman's Role As Thurgood Marshall Sparks Colorism Debate
Post by: GRAND on June 27, 2017, 12:49:14 PM
I think this is proof that Hollywood will use whoever is HOT at the moment no matter what, if nothing else :kii:
Title: Re: Chadwick Boseman's Role As Thurgood Marshall Sparks Colorism Debate
Post by: BAPHOMET. on June 27, 2017, 12:57:57 PM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on June 27, 2017, 08:11:01 AM
Quote from: Trey on June 27, 2017, 07:34:35 AM
Quote from: ORORO MUNROE-UDAKU on June 27, 2017, 06:01:43 AM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on June 27, 2017, 05:44:47 AM
If you know anything about Thurgood Marshall, him being lightskinned is what helped him work his way through the legal system. I know Chadwick is a hot commodity rn but this look sloppy.
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It helped him greatly as it did other blacks in government and political positions before him

The purpose of biopic casting is to match an actors look as closely to the subject character as possible and hope they nail the personality.
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And capture the story. If his light skin tone played a major role in his story, this casting makes absolutely no sense. :dead:

Right. Overlooking an integral part of the subject's life to cast someone with a lot of star power is tacky as hell.

Hope this mess flops lol!

No need to hope. It def' WILL.
(http://i.imgur.com/lmgDbty.gif)
Title: Re: Chadwick Boseman's Role As Thurgood Marshall Sparks Colorism Debate
Post by: b7 on June 27, 2017, 05:55:58 PM
Quote from: AYR on June 27, 2017, 08:23:05 AM
I think the current political climate has ppl really on edge
and ready to argue about anything.
Angela Basset has played women of pretty much every complexion in the past with no problem
and Flex played Michael Jackson
I'm sure Chadwick will do well with the role
he'll do a great job but like yummy said, complexion is actually very integral to this storyline and TM's ascension politically. Especially back in those days

It's not the same.  Just like the John legend Frederick Douglas thing
Title: Re: Chadwick Boseman's Role As Thurgood Marshall Sparks Colorism Debate
Post by: RAY7 on June 27, 2017, 06:17:12 PM
Quote from: 1RIG on June 27, 2017, 05:55:58 PM
Quote from: AYR on June 27, 2017, 08:23:05 AM
I think the current political climate has ppl really on edge
and ready to argue about anything.
Angela Basset has played women of pretty much every complexion in the past with no problem
and Flex played Michael Jackson
I'm sure Chadwick will do well with the role
he'll do a great job but like yummy said, complexion is actually very integral to this storyline and TM's ascension politically. Especially back in those days

It's not the same.  Just like the John legend Frederick Douglas thing
n well yeah
its a movie though, was Thurgood bi-racial? They can still cast a white parent
and write the advantages of it into the script
Denzel did it with Malcolm
Title: Re: Chadwick Boseman's Role As Thurgood Marshall Sparks Colorism Debate
Post by: b7 on June 27, 2017, 10:38:27 PM
Quote from: Freeruu on June 27, 2017, 04:34:51 AM
This was just outrageous though

(https://i.imgur.com/wB1s2D4.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/IWdrydC.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3EWygLE_No

zoe gor

hhh she didn't even look real. This caked on CLAY
now this is just MESS
Title: Re: Chadwick Boseman's Role As Thurgood Marshall Sparks Colorism Debate
Post by: Cowgirl on June 27, 2017, 11:10:33 PM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on June 27, 2017, 12:06:47 PM
Quote from: ORORO MUNROE-UDAKU on June 27, 2017, 11:27:56 AM
IMO it's not the fact of colorism "shouldn't" matter

It's the fact that it DID :dead:
And that's what a biopic is, an entertaining historical account

They didn't seek a fat latina to play Selena
And they didn't seek Leslie Jones for Dorothy Dandridge

If you're interested in the subject of a biopic, their look can play a role in how their life went

We were lucky enough to get into the Smithsonian AA Culture & History museum while in DC and looking all the way back, to Booker and W.E.B., Benjamin Banneker, blacks need to look up pictures of all these names they hear about, you'll see a lot of hazel eyes and different hair textures :dead:

Harriet and Sijourner did a lot but a certain skin tone could get into places they couldn't without an epic fight ... a certain "look" got you farther

We don't like to admit colorism sometimes played a huge role in our advancement because of filthy white Neanderthals and their predatory thinking. Because while massa's interacial children were still black, they were more accepted and while the goal was the same, it was two totally different paths. They could get educated easier.

Am mean ... 'Bama is light skin. I wouldn't say it played a HUGE role, but if there's ever a biopic I don't want someone with Wesley Snipes tone playing bruv

:dead: :dead: :dead: :dead: :dead:
:dead: :dead: :dead: :dead: :dead:
Title: Re: Chadwick Boseman's Role As Thurgood Marshall Sparks Colorism Debate
Post by: LOONA. on June 28, 2017, 09:19:35 AM
Quote from: Trey on June 27, 2017, 07:32:23 AM
H

I mean..... If it was the other way around.... You can't pick and choose.
Title: Re: Chadwick Boseman's Role As Thurgood Marshall Sparks Colorism Debate
Post by: The Brandy Barbie on June 28, 2017, 09:41:56 AM
Quote from: Same Ol' G on June 27, 2017, 07:22:57 AM
https://youtu.be/C_bfOWof0Sg


Jussie Smollett is in the movie.  I don't think people realize how talented an actor Jussie is.  Maybe he should've been playing Thurgood Marshall.
Title: Re: Chadwick Boseman's Role As Thurgood Marshall Sparks Colorism Debate
Post by: The Brandy Barbie on June 28, 2017, 09:46:11 AM
The preview looks good though, I must say.  It makes me want to see the movie.
Title: Re: Chadwick Boseman's Role As Thurgood Marshall Sparks Colorism Debate
Post by: The Brandy Barbie on June 28, 2017, 10:20:45 AM
Quote from: ORORO MUNROE-UDAKU on June 27, 2017, 11:27:56 AM

They didn't seek a fat latina to play Selena


I heard there was a big controversy surrounding J-Lo for playing Selena. The Latin community didn't like that J-Lo, who is Puerto Rican, was playing a Mexican.  They felt like she didn't look Mexican.  J-Lo ended up doing so well in the role that she won everyone over.

I think this kind of casting controversy thing happens with each ethnic group.  If the movie and actor is good enough, people will overlook it.
Title: Re: Chadwick Boseman's Role As Thurgood Marshall Sparks Colorism Debate
Post by: KING BENTLEY. on June 28, 2017, 07:15:33 PM
Quote from: The Brandy Barbie on June 28, 2017, 10:20:45 AM
Quote from: ORORO MUNROE-UDAKU on June 27, 2017, 11:27:56 AM

They didn't seek a fat latina to play Selena


I heard there was a big controversy surrounding J-Lo for playing Selena. The Latin community didn't like that J-Lo, who is Puerto Rican, was playing a Mexican.  They felt like she didn't look Mexican.  J-Lo ended up doing so well in the role that she won everyone over.

I think this kind of casting controversy thing happens with each ethnic group.  If the movie and actor is good enough, people will overlook it.
J-Lo's not Mexican??????!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Chadwick Boseman's Role As Thurgood Marshall Sparks Colorism Debate
Post by: GLOCK on June 28, 2017, 07:16:36 PM
Quote from: The Brandy Barbie on June 28, 2017, 09:41:56 AM
Quote from: Same Ol' G on June 27, 2017, 07:22:57 AM
https://youtu.be/C_bfOWof0Sg


Jussie Smollett is in the movie.  I don't think people realize how talented an actor Jussie is.  Maybe he should've been playing Thurgood Marshall.
that would've been a book
Title: Re: Chadwick Boseman's Role As Thurgood Marshall Sparks Colorism Debate
Post by: GLOCK on June 28, 2017, 07:17:03 PM
Quote from: ORORO MUNROE-UDAKU on June 28, 2017, 07:15:33 PM
Quote from: The Brandy Barbie on June 28, 2017, 10:20:45 AM
Quote from: ORORO MUNROE-UDAKU on June 27, 2017, 11:27:56 AM

They didn't seek a fat latina to play Selena


I heard there was a big controversy surrounding J-Lo for playing Selena. The Latin community didn't like that J-Lo, who is Puerto Rican, was playing a Mexican.  They felt like she didn't look Mexican.  J-Lo ended up doing so well in the role that she won everyone over.

I think this kind of casting controversy thing happens with each ethnic group.  If the movie and actor is good enough, people will overlook it.
J-Lo's not Mexican??????!!!!!!!!!
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Title: Re: Chadwick Boseman's Role As Thurgood Marshall Sparks Colorism Debate
Post by: GLOCK on June 28, 2017, 07:17:15 PM
Bent u keep me the fuck CRYING
Title: Re: Chadwick Boseman's Role As Thurgood Marshall Sparks Colorism Debate
Post by: GLOCK on June 28, 2017, 07:20:39 PM
But wait
I just watched the trailer
It's not really a biopic tbh it's a timeline piece
Thai is gonna be good
Title: Re: Chadwick Boseman's Role As Thurgood Marshall Sparks Colorism Debate
Post by: Cowgirl on June 28, 2017, 07:21:20 PM
Quote from: Same Ol' G on June 28, 2017, 07:17:03 PM
Quote from: ORORO MUNROE-UDAKU on June 28, 2017, 07:15:33 PM
Quote from: The Brandy Barbie on June 28, 2017, 10:20:45 AM
Quote from: ORORO MUNROE-UDAKU on June 27, 2017, 11:27:56 AM

They didn't seek a fat latina to play Selena


I heard there was a big controversy surrounding J-Lo for playing Selena. The Latin community didn't like that J-Lo, who is Puerto Rican, was playing a Mexican.  They felt like she didn't look Mexican.  J-Lo ended up doing so well in the role that she won everyone over.

I think this kind of casting controversy thing happens with each ethnic group.  If the movie and actor is good enough, people will overlook it.
J-Lo's not Mexican??????!!!!!!!!!
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