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QuoteLast year, MTV News relaunched itself as an ambitious new journalistic enterprise, hiring a gifted, diverse, young roster of writers and giving them space to write long, sharp, considered pieces about a ton of different topics. (Full disclosure: A number of Stereogum contributors and friends of the Stereogum staff worked there.) It didn?t last. Earlier this week, as Variety reported, MTV switched up its tactics, promising to target millennials by posting short-form video content and laying off many of their writers. And now we?ve learned one of the main difficulties in turning MTV News into a source for considered music journalism: Artists could put pressure on MTV to force the network to delete any articles that were even remotely critical.
Our friends at SPIN just published a massive investigation into everything that happened at MTV News, and the most fascinating part of the story might be two anecdotes about artists who leaned on the network and got them to take stories down. First up was Kings Of Leon. The site published a short review of the band?s ?Waste A Moment? single, calling it ?almost aggressively anonymous.? In response, the band threatened to cancel its appearance at the MTV Europe Music Awards. The article was soon deleted, and MTV?s corporate executives put into place a new policy that the site would no longer post reviews that ran less than 500 words. According to SPIN?s Jordan Sargent, ?MTV associated those kinds of blog posts with snarkiness and criticism, both of which were deemed detrimental to the network?s broader ability to work with artists who may be the subjects of such posts.?
Something similar happened when the site published a concert review that discussed the ?emotional disconnect? that the writer felt while listening to Chance The Rapper?s Coloring Book. Chance?s management, upon noticing the review, said that Chance would never work with MTV again. MTV again deleted the article. In an email to SPIN, Chance?s manager Pat Corcoran confirmed the story, writing:
Upon the publication of the article, Chance and I got together & both agreed that the article was offensive.
When we brought our concerns to MTV, our rep agreed that the article was ?a harsh shot? & took ownership of the editorial misstep.
From there, MTV chose to, on their own volition, to remove the piece.
We have a long history with MTV, which we cherish.
You may notice, Chance will be appearing in the season opener of Wild ?N Out tmw night (6/29) on MTV.
This was evidently a constant threat at MTV; the SPIN piece quotes an editor telling the staff not to cover DJ Khaled ?unless it?s like, KHALED IS GREAT.? And, to be fair, that balance between pleasing artists and keeping editorial integrity is a constant internal discussion at every music publication that depends on access to artists ? which is every music publication of any size, including Stereogum. It?s long been widely understood that this is how MTV works. But it?s still striking to see just how much control the site gave over to the artists it covered. And it?s especially surprising to see Chance, an artist who gets near-universal critical praise for everything he does, effectively admitting to putting the lean on.
http://www.stereogum.com/1949874/chance-the-rapper-kings-of-leon-reportedly-got-mtv-news-to-delete-mildly-negative-reviews-of-their-music/news/?utm_source=sc-fb&utm_medium=ref&utm_campaign
Chance is a fraud
But he's a nice person
People just don't want this boy to be great. Mad that he ain't splitting his coin with the jews.
Quote from: Genesis on June 30, 2017, 04:01:14 PM
Chance is a fraud
But he's a nice person
Ffgghh
Wtf! How can u be both?
Delete the history then King, independent self!
:cheerup:
Quote from: Kordei. on June 30, 2017, 04:03:31 PM
People just don't want this boy to be great. Mad that he ain't splitting his coin with the jews.
He actually did when he used apple to fund his album lol
Quote from: BowDown on June 30, 2017, 04:06:37 PM
Delete the history then King, independent self!
:cheerup:
That boy was never independent lol :dead:
His father is damn near best friends with obama :dead:
Quote from: Genesis on June 30, 2017, 04:07:40 PM
Quote from: BowDown on June 30, 2017, 04:06:37 PM
Delete the history then King, independent self!
:cheerup:
That boy was never independent lol :dead:
His father is damn near best friends with obama :dead:
:plzstop:
I'm cryin
Gen' hates this boy
:everythingok:
Quote from: Genesis on June 30, 2017, 04:06:45 PM
Quote from: Kordei. on June 30, 2017, 04:03:31 PM
People just don't want this boy to be great. Mad that he ain't splitting his coin with the jews.
He actually did when he used apple to fund his album lol
n
Uhm they gave him coin. The album was already done and turned in dummy. He needed the money because he had to pay the producers and features but Apple gets no kind of percentage on his mess.
Quote from: Kordei. on June 30, 2017, 04:14:28 PM
Quote from: Genesis on June 30, 2017, 04:06:45 PM
Quote from: Kordei. on June 30, 2017, 04:03:31 PM
People just don't want this boy to be great. Mad that he ain't splitting his coin with the jews.
He actually did when he used apple to fund his album lol
n
Uhm they gave him coin. The album was already done and turned in dummy. He needed the money because he had to pay the producers and features but Apple gets no kind of percentage on his mess.
Dummy, you actually think he signed a deal with apple and apple got nothing? :kii:
Apple takes a percentage for even just putting music on their site :kii:
They paid him but best believe THEIR return was bigger
N
Yea I love him but Apple definitely had to benefit somehow lol
He's really phoney.
love chance
Quote from: 1RIG on July 01, 2017, 08:39:32 AM
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Yea I love him but Apple definitely had to benefit somehow lol
ssssss
Right! and I'm so tired of ppl that don't know how the business works calling this boy independent and a trendsetter
We have to realize what kind of parents they have
this was his dream. Smart ppl build routes to success. He was never in any "danger" of not making it :dead:
everything he has said, done, or will DO is as carefully planned as a politician. ever since paying to get on XXL :dead:
I was all over him at first too, because I thought he was cute, but his music is OK, he relys on high profile features and at times it seems he is the 1st to jump up to confirm his humanitarian efforts for some praise.
It's great what he's doing for Chicago tho, just wish he and his parents were more forthcoming and authentic about how this all came about.
Quote from: ORORO MUNROE-UDAKU on July 01, 2017, 11:21:00 AM
Quote from: 1RIG on July 01, 2017, 08:39:32 AM
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Yea I love him but Apple definitely had to benefit somehow lol
ssssss
Right! and I'm so tired of ppl that don't know how the business works calling this boy independent and a trendsetter
We have to realize what kind of parents they have
this was his dream. Smart ppl build routes to success. He was never in any "danger" of not making it :dead:
everything he has said, done, or will DO is as carefully planned as a politician. ever since paying to get on XXL :dead:
I was all over him at first too, because I thought he was cute, but his music is OK, he relys on high profile features and at times it seems he is the 1st to jump up to confirm his humanitarian efforts for some praise.
It's great what he's doing for Chicago tho, just wish he and his parents were more forthcoming and authentic about how this all came about.
!!! I love him but he keeps mentioning how he didn't need help, and he received the epitome of what help is sdddddd it's a business, I don't see what's wrong with admitting that
Chance is terrible.
His music is so bad. The girls need to stop fronting.
Quote from: CHI CHI. on July 02, 2017, 03:50:31 AM
Quote from: CAKE. on July 02, 2017, 03:49:01 AM
Chance is terrible.
His music is so bad. The girls need to stop fronting.
!!
:plzstop:
His music is the pits
And I can't take that spoken word poet mess
DDDDdddddd
!!!
Or that damn hat!
3!n
I can't get over Yummy saying he needs to shoot somebody. Vvvhhhyg
He's so damn dry.
Yeah he needs some damn edge or something.
Quote from: 1RIG on July 02, 2017, 03:00:55 AM
Quote from: ORORO MUNROE-UDAKU on July 01, 2017, 11:21:00 AM
Quote from: 1RIG on July 01, 2017, 08:39:32 AM
N
Yea I love him but Apple definitely had to benefit somehow lol
ssssss
Right! and I'm so tired of ppl that don't know how the business works calling this boy independent and a trendsetter
We have to realize what kind of parents they have
this was his dream. Smart ppl build routes to success. He was never in any "danger" of not making it :dead:
everything he has said, done, or will DO is as carefully planned as a politician. ever since paying to get on XXL :dead:
I was all over him at first too, because I thought he was cute, but his music is OK, he relys on high profile features and at times it seems he is the 1st to jump up to confirm his humanitarian efforts for some praise.
It's great what he's doing for Chicago tho, just wish he and his parents were more forthcoming and authentic about how this all came about.
!!! I love him but he keeps mentioning how he didn't need help, and he received the epitome of what help is sdddddd it's a business, I don't see what's wrong with admitting that
sssss
I think it's great what he's doing, but they will not admit that this boy is a politician, just like his father and most likely everyone around him.
with enough resources anybody can craft a career. but like I said, it's great that he did that to reach kids and not just buy a mansion and car collections. (Not that he and his family are hurting for money anyway :dead: )
Money can't buy you credibility as a musician. His music is boring but he's obviously talented.
Yes he can "afford" to be indie and give a faux free mess....highly doubt that's what is drawing his listeners in.
Unless your name is adele you don't make money of actual album sales...so why not snatch a deal with a corporation to recoup your costs.
The fact that this kid got a whole negative (it wasnt even that offensive) review of his album deleted proves how much power this "independent" artist has :kii:
I finally listened to Coloring Book the other day, I was sitting there like
:rudone:
But good for him, being independent and what not.