https://instagram.com/p/BWMJgI8FCIr/
Yea this guy is going off on facebook about this.
Kind of a good idea when u think about it lolz... less bums tax payers have to care for in the long run
But on the flipside, not giving them the diploma Prevents them from getting a job later on. What if they want one later...
Quote from: Vonc2002 on July 06, 2017, 09:26:26 AM
Yea this guy is going off on facebook about this.
what are your thoughts?
i dont get this at all
I'm guessing the person who implemented this was white.
Sounds more like a way of forcing citizens into a certain job market than trying to ensure someone's future
Quote from: Vonc2002 on July 06, 2017, 09:26:26 AM
Yea this guy is going off on facebook about this.
Luckily this was implemented after you graduated because....wow...
(http://i37.tinypic.com/21bnjg5.jpg)
How will yonc will respond
:ohwow:
Quote from: Demm_ on July 06, 2017, 09:57:34 AM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on July 06, 2017, 09:26:26 AM
Yea this guy is going off on facebook about this.
Luckily this was implemented after you graduated because....wow...
(http://i37.tinypic.com/21bnjg5.jpg)
Luckily no one cares enough to implement anything in that run down ass no mans land u call home. WHEW!
(http://i37.tinypic.com/21bnjg5.jpg)
Will Darin return the favour
:ohwow:
We might join forces and tag team your ass
Well looky there, looks like it's time to go..
Quote from: Vonc2002 on July 06, 2017, 10:01:35 AM
We might join forces and tag team your ass
(http://i37.tinypic.com/21bnjg5.jpg)
Quote from: Demm_ on July 06, 2017, 09:57:34 AM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on July 06, 2017, 09:26:26 AM
Yea this guy is going off on facebook about this.
Luckily this was implemented after you graduated because....wow...
(http://i37.tinypic.com/21bnjg5.jpg)
dddddddddddddddddd
Quote from: Fuck you. on July 06, 2017, 10:03:03 AM
Quote from: Fuck you. on July 06, 2017, 09:32:58 AM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on July 06, 2017, 09:26:26 AM
Yea this guy is going off on facebook about this.
what are your thoughts?
hell-fucking-o
he's ignoring you bitch
And I love it
(http://i37.tinypic.com/21bnjg5.jpg)
Quote from: G! on July 06, 2017, 10:08:35 AM
Quote from: Fuck you. on July 06, 2017, 10:03:03 AM
Quote from: Fuck you. on July 06, 2017, 09:32:58 AM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on July 06, 2017, 09:26:26 AM
Yea this guy is going off on facebook about this.
what are your thoughts?
hell-fucking-o
he's ignoring you bitch
And I love it
(http://i37.tinypic.com/21bnjg5.jpg)
I mean, it doesn't take a diploma to recognize tha obvious
(http://i37.tinypic.com/21bnjg5.jpg)
This is so stupid to me and should be against the law. College isn't meant for everybody and some people might not qualify for the military and some jobs, good paying jobs won't hire you without a HSD or GED.
This is clearly why the crime is so high in that awful city. They got complete idiots running it.
You can't implement shit like this as if everyone's situation is the same. There is real struggle out there and many people are at a disadvantage. Particularly Black Boys. I wish God was real so that he could wipe this earth of all white people.
Except my family members.
Quote from: Vonc2002 on July 06, 2017, 10:09:42 AM
Quote from: G! on July 06, 2017, 10:08:35 AM
Quote from: Fuck you. on July 06, 2017, 10:03:03 AM
Quote from: Fuck you. on July 06, 2017, 09:32:58 AM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on July 06, 2017, 09:26:26 AM
Yea this guy is going off on facebook about this.
what are your thoughts?
hell-fucking-o
he's ignoring you bitch
And I love it
(http://i37.tinypic.com/21bnjg5.jpg)
I mean, it doesn't take a diploma to recognize tha obvious
(http://i37.tinypic.com/21bnjg5.jpg)
wtf
:everythingok:
Yh I feel like this is only gonna affect blacks.
The principal knew what he was doing.
Quote from: Drais. on July 06, 2017, 10:14:14 AM
Yh I feel like this is only gonna affect blacks.
The principal knew what he was doing.
This is city wide from my understanding. Lemme read more
I like this
did everyone read the actual article?
It says you have to have college acceptance, a job or military enlisted
if you have the grades to get your diploma I don't see how none of these options would be possible Black or not. and tbh if you wanna beat this all you have to do is get accepted to a junior/community college real quick until graduation
don't even have to really attend
Quote from: Vonc2002 on July 06, 2017, 10:19:56 AM
Quote from: Drais. on July 06, 2017, 10:14:14 AM
Yh I feel like this is only gonna affect blacks.
The principal knew what he was doing.
This is city wide from my understanding. Lemme read more
it says the Mayor made the decision
Quote from: AYR on July 06, 2017, 10:20:48 AM
I like this
did everyone read the actual article?
It says you have to have college acceptance, a job or military enlisted
if you have the grades to get your diploma I don't see how none of these options would be possible Black or not. and tbh if you wanna beat this all you have to do is get accepted to a junior/community college real quick until graduation
don't even have to really attend
n
Boy most people (blacks) meet the bare minimum to graduate. Some don't have the luxury of just going to school and getting good excellent grades. Some don't even have college or military dreams.
This is just dumb.
Quote from: AYR on July 06, 2017, 10:20:48 AM
I like this
did everyone read the actual article?
It says you have to have college acceptance, a job or military enlisted
if you have the grades to get your diploma I don't see how none of these options would be possible Black or not. and tbh if you wanna beat this all you have to do is get accepted to a junior/community college real quick until graduation
don't even have to really attend
Not everyone knows what they wanna do post highschool. Some people wanna defer for a yr. U shouldnt be able to dictate to someone what they need to be doing in order to get sumn they worked for. "GRADES!"
I just want u once, just one time to think beyond the scope of what u see
Quote from: Kordei. on July 06, 2017, 10:24:09 AM
Quote from: AYR on July 06, 2017, 10:20:48 AM
I like this
did everyone read the actual article?
It says you have to have college acceptance, a job or military enlisted
if you have the grades to get your diploma I don't see how none of these options would be possible Black or not. and tbh if you wanna beat this all you have to do is get accepted to a junior/community college real quick until graduation
don't even have to really attend
n
Boy most people (blacks) meet the bare minimum to graduate. Some don't have the luxury of just going to school and getting good excellent grades. Some don't even have college or military dreams.
This is just dumb.
:uhh:
Iono about this either tho. Not most blacks barely make it out :dead:
Quote from: Kordei. on July 06, 2017, 10:24:09 AM
Quote from: AYR on July 06, 2017, 10:20:48 AM
I like this
did everyone read the actual article?
It says you have to have college acceptance, a job or military enlisted
if you have the grades to get your diploma I don't see how none of these options would be possible Black or not. and tbh if you wanna beat this all you have to do is get accepted to a junior/community college real quick until graduation
don't even have to really attend
n
Boy most people (blacks) meet the bare minimum to graduate. Some don't have the luxury of just going to school and getting good excellent grades. Some don't even have college or military dreams.
This is just dumb.
who said anything about EXCELLENT grades?
If you meet the bare minimum then you definitely can get a job at at least McDonald's or something, which would qualify the person to get their diploma. The only ppl that will be harmed by this are lazy niggas who don't wanna do shit with their life after they get their diploma
:guys:
https://nces.ed.gov/pubs95/95765.pdf
Quote from: Vonc2002 on July 06, 2017, 10:27:22 AM
Quote from: AYR on July 06, 2017, 10:20:48 AM
I like this
did everyone read the actual article?
It says you have to have college acceptance, a job or military enlisted
if you have the grades to get your diploma I don't see how none of these options would be possible Black or not. and tbh if you wanna beat this all you have to do is get accepted to a junior/community college real quick until graduation
don't even have to really attend
Not everyone knows what they wanna do post highschool. Some people wanna defer for a yr. U shouldnt be able to dictate to someone what they need to be doing in order to get sumn they worked for. "GRADES!"
I just want u once, just one time to think beyond the scope of what u see
this isn't about a career though. If you don't know what you want to do that's fine but all this is saying is while you're deferring a year
get a 9-5 and pay some bills. Are you looking beyond what you see?
Sounds like the complaint is for ppl to stay at home for a year making their parents or someone take care of them while they decide what to do
that does nothing but waste time and create laziness
Quote from: AYR on July 06, 2017, 10:28:45 AM
Quote from: Kordei. on July 06, 2017, 10:24:09 AM
Quote from: AYR on July 06, 2017, 10:20:48 AM
I like this
did everyone read the actual article?
It says you have to have college acceptance, a job or military enlisted
if you have the grades to get your diploma I don't see how none of these options would be possible Black or not. and tbh if you wanna beat this all you have to do is get accepted to a junior/community college real quick until graduation
don't even have to really attend
n
Boy most people (blacks) meet the bare minimum to graduate. Some don't have the luxury of just going to school and getting good excellent grades. Some don't even have college or military dreams.
This is just dumb.
who said anything about EXCELLENT grades?
If you meet the bare minimum then you definitely can get a job at at least McDonald's or something, which would qualify the person to get their diploma. The only ppl that will be harmed by this are lazy niggas who don't wanna do shit with their life after they get their diploma
n
I'm 100% sure if this was implemented during your generation you'd have a different tune. It's so easy after you've had time to grow and find your way to sit back and say how you think it should be. It ain't that easy for everyone.
There is a reason these black boys are out here selling drugs and robbing people for a come up.
Quote from: Kordei. on July 06, 2017, 10:35:49 AM
Quote from: AYR on July 06, 2017, 10:28:45 AM
Quote from: Kordei. on July 06, 2017, 10:24:09 AM
Quote from: AYR on July 06, 2017, 10:20:48 AM
I like this
did everyone read the actual article?
It says you have to have college acceptance, a job or military enlisted
if you have the grades to get your diploma I don't see how none of these options would be possible Black or not. and tbh if you wanna beat this all you have to do is get accepted to a junior/community college real quick until graduation
don't even have to really attend
n
Boy most people (blacks) meet the bare minimum to graduate. Some don't have the luxury of just going to school and getting good excellent grades. Some don't even have college or military dreams.
This is just dumb.
who said anything about EXCELLENT grades?
If you meet the bare minimum then you definitely can get a job at at least McDonald's or something, which would qualify the person to get their diploma. The only ppl that will be harmed by this are lazy niggas who don't wanna do shit with their life after they get their diploma
n
I'm 100% sure if this was implemented during your generation you'd have a different tune. It's so easy after you've had time to grow and find your way to sit back and say how you think it should be. It ain't that easy for everyone.
There is a reason these black boys are out here selling drugs and robbing people for a come up.
I had a job already in my Senior year of High School
it was just a part time job but it was a start
so no this would be perfect for my generation :dead:
but tbh I'm not all the way where I want to be in life but I never wanna
stop trying to make ends meet in some way
the reason these guys are out here hustling is because nothing like this has been done before to make them do SOMETHING with themselves before it's too late. If these boys are forced into a job or college they won't have time to be out in these streets
Quote from: Vonc2002 on July 06, 2017, 10:27:22 AM
Quote from: AYR on July 06, 2017, 10:20:48 AM
I like this
did everyone read the actual article?
It says you have to have college acceptance, a job or military enlisted
if you have the grades to get your diploma I don't see how none of these options would be possible Black or not. and tbh if you wanna beat this all you have to do is get accepted to a junior/community college real quick until graduation
don't even have to really attend
Not everyone knows what they wanna do post highschool. Some people wanna defer for a yr. U shouldnt be able to dictate to someone what they need to be doing in order to get sumn they worked for. "GRADES!"
!!!!! Diplomas should be based on the work you've done, not what you intend to do months down the line
n
This is dumb. a lot of people take breaks after high school, everyone's situation isn't the same.
Quote from: AYR on July 06, 2017, 10:34:15 AM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on July 06, 2017, 10:27:22 AM
Quote from: AYR on July 06, 2017, 10:20:48 AM
I like this
did everyone read the actual article?
It says you have to have college acceptance, a job or military enlisted
if you have the grades to get your diploma I don't see how none of these options would be possible Black or not. and tbh if you wanna beat this all you have to do is get accepted to a junior/community college real quick until graduation
don't even have to really attend
Not everyone knows what they wanna do post highschool. Some people wanna defer for a yr. U shouldnt be able to dictate to someone what they need to be doing in order to get sumn they worked for. "GRADES!"
I just want u once, just one time to think beyond the scope of what u see
this isn't about a career though. If you don't know what you want to do that's fine but all this is saying is while you're deferring a year
get a 9-5 and pay some bills. Are you looking beyond what you see?
Sounds like the complaint is for ppl to stay at home for a year making their parents or someone take care of them while they decide what to do
that does nothing but waste time and create laziness
what a strong assumption to make :dead: smh
Hmmmm. I kinda don't see the problem..... It's not forcing anyone to go to college, it's just motivating kids to have a plan after they graduate from high school. I don't think they care if it's McDonald's, you just need to be doing something. Which is what parents should be implementing to their children regardless....
I don't think anyone knew at the age of 18 what they wanted to do in life.... But I don't think that means sit at home until you finally figure it out at the age of 25. :dead: The main part of going to college, working, ect. is for personal growth and development so you CAN figure out what you want to do in life.
Quote from: Vonc2002 on July 06, 2017, 10:09:42 AM
Quote from: G! on July 06, 2017, 10:08:35 AM
Quote from: Fuck you. on July 06, 2017, 10:03:03 AM
Quote from: Fuck you. on July 06, 2017, 09:32:58 AM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on July 06, 2017, 09:26:26 AM
Yea this guy is going off on facebook about this.
what are your thoughts?
hell-fucking-o
he's ignoring you bitch
And I love it
(http://i37.tinypic.com/21bnjg5.jpg)
I mean, it doesn't take a diploma to recognize tha obvious
(http://i37.tinypic.com/21bnjg5.jpg)
xvvxvx
Quote from: 1RIG on July 06, 2017, 10:47:01 AM
Quote from: AYR on July 06, 2017, 10:34:15 AM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on July 06, 2017, 10:27:22 AM
Quote from: AYR on July 06, 2017, 10:20:48 AM
I like this
did everyone read the actual article?
It says you have to have college acceptance, a job or military enlisted
if you have the grades to get your diploma I don't see how none of these options would be possible Black or not. and tbh if you wanna beat this all you have to do is get accepted to a junior/community college real quick until graduation
don't even have to really attend
Not everyone knows what they wanna do post highschool. Some people wanna defer for a yr. U shouldnt be able to dictate to someone what they need to be doing in order to get sumn they worked for. "GRADES!"
I just want u once, just one time to think beyond the scope of what u see
this isn't about a career though. If you don't know what you want to do that's fine but all this is saying is while you're deferring a year
get a 9-5 and pay some bills. Are you looking beyond what you see?
Sounds like the complaint is for ppl to stay at home for a year making their parents or someone take care of them while they decide what to do
that does nothing but waste time and create laziness
what a strong assumption to make :dead: smh
there's pretty much no other option :dead:
Everybody can't afford college whether local, public or private. Minimum wage jobs can't hire the whole community and basic entry level positions want an associate degree or bachelor's so what else is there for them to do? If they working at McDonald's making 8.80 an hour, how are they going to live and thrive? Jobs aren't what they used to be. Promotional opportunities are no longer being promoted from within so people are stuck bouncing from one job to another never really building any type of craft or career.
This country is so fucked.
Honestly this sounds like a problem for middle class families who can give children the luxury of NOT going to school after graduating
Not poor black families. Never really seen a 18 year old black kid jobless that lived at home(unless he went to school)
Quote from: Trey on July 06, 2017, 10:47:21 AM
Hmmmm. I kinda don't see the problem..... It's not forcing anyone to go to college, it's just motivating kids to have a plan after they graduate from high school. I don't think they care if it's McDonald's, you just need to be doing something. Which is what parents should be implementing to their children regardless....
I don't think anyone knew at the age of 18 what they wanted to do in life.... But I don't think that means sit at home until you finally figure it out at the age of 25. :dead: The main part of going to college, working, ect. is for personal growth and development so you CAN figure out what you want to do in life.
EXACTLY, like what is anyone talking about in here? :uhh:
Quote from: KhoiZan on July 06, 2017, 10:52:53 AM
Maybe its not a bad idea to let them go off for a while to do what they'd like.
Before PUSHING them out into the real world. (keeping up with bills, tuition, etc.)
I went to Sweden at 17 by myself for a couple months and its an experience I'll cherish for the rest of my life.
Sure I could do it now , but I dunno, its different when you do these things when you're much younger, naive, and still looking at the world through rose-colored glasses.
You really get to ENJOY it. Not think "ugh gotta be to work soon." or a budget and mess, the entire time you're there.
I think that's why I'm not totally with this. They're making post-high school life seem like some sort of prison or box.
!!!! Again, everyones situation isn't the same.
No one should be forced into more school or work until they're ready. Period.
No one said wait until age 25. n
Quote from: LORD GRAND SUPREME PRIME CELESTIAL MARSHALL on July 06, 2017, 10:53:03 AM
Honestly this sounds like a problem for middle class families who can give children the luxury of NOT going to school after graduating
Not poor black families. Never really seen a 18 year old black kid jobless that lived at home(unless he went to school)
d
TBH...... Most were probably working DURING high school.
:udontlookok:
Quote from: AYR on July 06, 2017, 10:20:48 AM
I like this
did everyone read the actual article?
It says
r u calling us dumb ass niggers
Quote from: Uni on July 06, 2017, 10:50:44 AM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on July 06, 2017, 10:09:42 AM
Quote from: G! on July 06, 2017, 10:08:35 AM
Quote from: Fuck you. on July 06, 2017, 10:03:03 AM
Quote from: Fuck you. on July 06, 2017, 09:32:58 AM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on July 06, 2017, 09:26:26 AM
Yea this guy is going off on facebook about this.
what are your thoughts?
hell-fucking-o
he's ignoring you bitch
And I love it
(http://i37.tinypic.com/21bnjg5.jpg)
I mean, it doesn't take a diploma to recognize tha obvious
(http://i37.tinypic.com/21bnjg5.jpg)
xvvxvx
hey lol
Quote from: 1RIG on July 06, 2017, 10:56:34 AM
No one should be forced into more school or work until they're ready. Period.
No one said wait until age 25. n
so everyone should be able to lean on their parents
to pay everything when they're grown as hell and able to do something for themselves?;
Quote from: 1RIG on July 06, 2017, 10:56:34 AM
No one said wait until age 25. n
g
I didn't mean literally.....
:udontlookok:
Everybody ain't raised the same way. You can't expect your experience in life to be the same as others. Some parents just don't care and the environment doesn't care either. Not everyone has the will or drive to succeed nor the people in their corner pushing them to greatness.
We were not all created equal.
Quote from: AYR on July 06, 2017, 11:00:20 AM
Quote from: 1RIG on July 06, 2017, 10:56:34 AM
No one should be forced into more school or work until they're ready. Period.
No one said wait until age 25. n
so everyone should be able to lean on their parents
to pay everything when they're grown as hell and able to do something for themselves?;
mentally and physically, I think a break can do everyone some good straight outta the gait. Doesn't even need to be a full year, but let's not act like they don't already go through a lot to complete highschool day in and day out. To be forced right into something else isn't always beneficial for
everyone Give people a choice, is all I'm saying. I do agree with the overall thought process though, especially since it'll keep certain kids out of trouble.
this reverse MLK mess
If that's the case they need to place more pressure on guidance counselors to actually do their jobs..
Quote from: 1RIG on July 06, 2017, 11:06:03 AM
Quote from: AYR on July 06, 2017, 11:00:20 AM
Quote from: 1RIG on July 06, 2017, 10:56:34 AM
No one should be forced into more school or work until they're ready. Period.
No one said wait until age 25. n
so everyone should be able to lean on their parents
to pay everything when they're grown as hell and able to do something for themselves?;
mentally and physically, I think a break can do everyone some good straight outta the gait. Doesn't even need to be a full year, but let's not act like they don't already go through a lot to complete highschool day in and day out. To be forced right into something else isn't always beneficial for everyone
Give people a choice, is all I'm saying. I do agree with the overall thought process though, especially since it'll keep certain kids out of trouble.
bro, so that's a long yes? A break and having someone else take care of a grown adult can be beneficial
College doesn't start the day after graduation btw
I graduated high school in June and started freshman year in August
that's not enough time?
Quote from: BowDown on July 06, 2017, 11:08:40 AM
If that's the case they need to place more pressure on guidance counselors to actually do their jobs..
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Public school Guidance Counselors need to be fixed or exhausted. They are trash trash trash. I went to a IB/Blue Ribbon high school and if it wasn't for College Bound and Building Steps a lot of us wouldn't have even met deadlines for post high school opportunities. Our GC was pitiful.
D
I took a break right after college. High school wasn't really shit to break from, no shade.
Quote from: BowDown on July 06, 2017, 11:08:40 AM
If that's the case they need to place more pressure on guidance counselors to actually do their jobs..
And that was a conversation as well. I believe someone said 30% of them have been let go. So there's implementation of shit like this but not even the proper resources to ensure students are getting the help required to have a fckn plan. This is bullshit.
Quote from: Trey on July 06, 2017, 11:14:29 AM
D
I took a break right after college. High school wasn't really shit to break from, no shade.
n
everyone doesn't have the same high school experience though lol
Quote from: Fuck you. on July 06, 2017, 11:15:44 AM
Quote from: Trey on July 06, 2017, 11:14:29 AM
D
I took a break right after college. High school wasn't really shit to break from, no shade.
n
everyone doesn't have the same high school experience though lol
!!!!!! :dead:
Cause imo there's no reason after college to take any breaks. U know what u wanna do, ur equipped to do that, so go and get living
this all sounds very ghetto
Quote from: Trey on July 06, 2017, 11:14:29 AM
D
I took a break right after college. High school wasn't really shit to break from, no shade.
Yea lolz
Highschool isn't even hard n
Unless you're in one of those scenarios where you have to take care of your family or some shit
Quote from: Vonc2002 on July 06, 2017, 11:17:47 AM
Quote from: Fuck you. on July 06, 2017, 11:15:44 AM
Quote from: Trey on July 06, 2017, 11:14:29 AM
D
I took a break right after college. High school wasn't really shit to break from, no shade.
n
everyone doesn't have the same high school experience though lol
!!!!!! :dead:
Cause imo there's no reason after college to take any breaks. U know what u wanna do, ur equipped to do that, so go and get living
What if people wanna explore the world a bit before they get back to the 9-5
All these years of education, you need to take a breather, a refresh before you take the next step.
Quote from: Kaeli. on July 06, 2017, 11:20:46 AM
Quote from: Trey on July 06, 2017, 11:14:29 AM
D
I took a break right after college. High school wasn't really shit to break from, no shade.
Yea lolz
Highschool isn't even hard n
Unless you're in one of those scenarios where you have to take care of your family or some shit
well. No one said high school was so hard they needed a break. People are in here saying that some people don't know what they want to do for the rest of their lives at 18 so taking a break before college is a good idea
Quote from: MASTER MOST HIGH DIVINE SAINT on July 06, 2017, 11:21:01 AM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on July 06, 2017, 11:17:47 AM
Quote from: Fuck you. on July 06, 2017, 11:15:44 AM
Quote from: Trey on July 06, 2017, 11:14:29 AM
D
I took a break right after college. High school wasn't really shit to break from, no shade.
n
everyone doesn't have the same high school experience though lol
!!!!!! :dead:
Cause imo there's no reason after college to take any breaks. U know what u wanna do, ur equipped to do that, so go and get living
What if people wanna explore the world a bit before they get back to the 9-5
All these years of education, you need to take a breather, a refresh before you take the next step.
Well here in America given the student debt deficit, you aren't given the opportunity.
I like it
Oh good point
I personally feel that you should get ur feet wet a before deciding. I changed my major 3 times this year n
I wish I took a break dd
I started and stopped 3 courses before deciding and settling on what I actually wanted to do
by the end I almost had a mental breakdown :dead:
Quote from: MASTER MOST HIGH DIVINE SAINT on July 06, 2017, 11:21:01 AM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on July 06, 2017, 11:17:47 AM
Quote from: Fuck you. on July 06, 2017, 11:15:44 AM
Quote from: Trey on July 06, 2017, 11:14:29 AM
D
I took a break right after college. High school wasn't really shit to break from, no shade.
n
everyone doesn't have the same high school experience though lol
!!!!!! :dead:
Cause imo there's no reason after college to take any breaks. U know what u wanna do, ur equipped to do that, so go and get living
What if people wanna explore the world a bit before they get back to the 9-5
All these years of education, you need to take a breather, a refresh before you take the next step.
And the same can be said for those that wanna do some of those things before entering college and subsequently the working world. Point is, no one should be able to dictate or judge someone else's timeline because everyone aint the fckn same
Quote from: KhoiZan on July 06, 2017, 10:52:53 AM
I went to Sweden at 17
r u making this 'bout u?
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Quote from: KhoiZan on July 06, 2017, 11:27:45 AM
I think exceptions should be made for students who wish to travel abroad.
not to the corner to hang with Daquan and dem
nnnnnn
Quote from: Trey on July 06, 2017, 11:14:29 AM
D
I took a break right after college. High school wasn't really shit to break from, no shade.
good thing you can't speak for everyone
Quote from: Fuck you. on July 06, 2017, 11:15:44 AM
Quote from: Trey on July 06, 2017, 11:14:29 AM
D
I took a break right after college. High school wasn't really shit to break from, no shade.
n
everyone doesn't have the same high school experience though lol
like :dead:
Quote from: Vonc2002 on July 06, 2017, 11:14:34 AM
Quote from: BowDown on July 06, 2017, 11:08:40 AM
If that's the case they need to place more pressure on guidance counselors to actually do their jobs..
And that was a conversation as well. I believe someone said 30% of them have been let go. So there's implementation of shit like this but not even the proper resources to ensure students are getting the help required to have a fckn plan. This is bullshit.
:blessed:
Quote from: MASTER MOST HIGH DIVINE SAINT on July 06, 2017, 11:25:37 AM
I wish I took a break dd
I started and stopped 3 courses before deciding and settling on what I actually wanted to do
by the end I almost had a mental breakdown :dead:
!!!! That's a lot of pressure. starting off in college on the wrong foot can really set a bad tone for the rest of ur experience unless you have thick skin
b
Another issue where folks see their lives and what they did being applicable to every damn human being on earth.
Quote from: Kurama on July 06, 2017, 11:35:23 AM
b
Another issue where folks see their lives and what they did being applicable to every damn human being on earth.
fddffgvvvvv
"I had to walk 15 miles in the snow, so I don't see why ..."
:melmel:
e
Quote from: KhoiZan on July 06, 2017, 11:27:45 AM
I think exceptions should be made for students who wish to travel abroad.
not to the corner to hang with Daquan and dem
there is. :dead: I don't think anyone read this article
Quote from: 1RIG on July 06, 2017, 11:35:18 AM
Quote from: MASTER MOST HIGH DIVINE SAINT on July 06, 2017, 11:25:37 AM
I wish I took a break dd
I started and stopped 3 courses before deciding and settling on what I actually wanted to do
by the end I almost had a mental breakdown :dead:
!!!! That's a lot of pressure. starting off in college on the wrong foot can really set a bad tone for the rest of ur experience unless you have thick skin
!! I was about to QUIT it altogether :dead:
A lot of it comes from seeing your peer group getting on with and you just going with the flow just because you want to say your actually doing something as opposed to saying "oh I'm still thinking about it".
Some people know right off the cuff what they want to do, some people aren't sure.
Plans and idea's change all the time.
Quote from: MASTER MOST HIGH DIVINE SAINT on July 06, 2017, 11:19:18 AM
this all sounds very ghetto
fag are you trying to compete for biggest name
The ultimate decision should be voted on by the parents/guardians etc
because it's their kids and they're gonna be the ones not getting a break regardless
ppl wanna "take a break" but if the mortgage/rent/ bills are due
their parents can't decide to take a break from paying with no contributions
from a 18+ year old adult
No
Damn
Quote from: 1RIG on July 06, 2017, 10:44:38 AM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on July 06, 2017, 10:27:22 AM
Quote from: AYR on July 06, 2017, 10:20:48 AM
I like this
did everyone read the actual article?
It says you have to have college acceptance, a job or military enlisted
if you have the grades to get your diploma I don't see how none of these options would be possible Black or not. and tbh if you wanna beat this all you have to do is get accepted to a junior/community college real quick until graduation
don't even have to really attend
Not everyone knows what they wanna do post highschool. Some people wanna defer for a yr. U shouldnt be able to dictate to someone what they need to be doing in order to get sumn they worked for. "GRADES!"
!!!!! Diplomas should be based on the work you've done, not what you intend to do months down the line
n
This is dumb. a lot of people take breaks after high school, everyone's situation isn't the same.
Exactly
Life after High school is interesting
Its one thing I appreciate facebook for
Its amazing seeing all my classmates go off to get great careers, become baby mommas, work 4 jobs, do nothing, travel, die, or stunt for the internet
(http://i37.tinypic.com/21bnjg5.jpg)
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(http://i64.tinypic.com/2927fon.jpg)
nnnnn so glad my parents never depended on their children to pay their bills :uhh:
https://instagram.com/p/BWNbkF4BFLZ/
Exscuse me
Quote from: AYR on July 06, 2017, 11:41:31 AM
The ultimate decision should be voted on by the parents/guardians etc
because it's their kids and they're gonna be the ones not getting a break regardless
ppl wanna "take a break" but if the mortgage/rent/ bills are due
their parents can't decide to take a break from paying with no contributions
from a 18+ year old adult
yh but how many of these families actually depend on their children to pay the bills though
Hopefully, they provide better counselors and teachers that can help the children. High school to college was the toughest time for me because of all the pressure from everyone. Glad I took a gap year to figure it out.
n
Unemployment is usually caused by there not being enough jobs rather than the kids taking a siesta but do.
Quote from: MASTER MOST HIGH DIVINE SAINT on July 06, 2017, 11:48:58 AM
Quote from: AYR on July 06, 2017, 11:41:31 AM
The ultimate decision should be voted on by the parents/guardians etc
because it's their kids and they're gonna be the ones not getting a break regardless
ppl wanna "take a break" but if the mortgage/rent/ bills are due
their parents can't decide to take a break from paying with no contributions
from a 18+ year old adult
yh but how many of these families actually depend on their children to pay the bills though
Also, the kids going to college is more likely to be a heavier financial burden on the parents than them "taking a break".
This isn't a logical argument.
Quote from: KhoiZan on July 06, 2017, 11:48:27 AM
Take a look at this before you guys continue to question this decision:
https://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20170523/englewood/state-black-unemployment-tied-for-worst-nation-report-says
I already knew this would be the case based on this new rule, but I wanted to double check Google. And sure enough...
You probably should read this
http://www.chicagobusiness.com/article/20170428/BLOGS02/170429849/emanuel-cps-will-complete-full-term-through-june-20
It highlights how the school system here has been fighting with the govenor and state to get their needs met.
Chicago public schools have lost millions of dollars in funding for years. Dozens of schools have closed in the short timespan that Ive been here. Where do you think most of these schools are? They're not in the white neighborhoods?
http://www.usccr.gov/pubs/IL-FoodDeserts-2011.pdf
https://www.chicagoreader.com/chicago/chicago-politics-segregation-african-american-black-white-hispanic-latino-population-census-community/Content?oid=3221712
this highlights food desserts and a overall lack of resources in these same areas. You can search englewood and see that it is one of the most resource lacking environments in the city.
Another Black community btw.
Now, add all of these factors into a nice cocktail. Poverty, no resources, schools are being closed down in non-white communitties, folks become aggressive ( impoverished folks do statistically), gun violence and BAM!
I'd add some context to the way you all are approaching this. Yall ki about gun violence and people being hoodlums often but its a little more multifaceted than posting an article and saying this is what it is....
:guys:
Quote from: Kurama on July 06, 2017, 12:01:22 PM
Quote from: KhoiZan on July 06, 2017, 11:48:27 AM
Take a look at this before you guys continue to question this decision:
https://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20170523/englewood/state-black-unemployment-tied-for-worst-nation-report-says
I already knew this would be the case based on this new rule, but I wanted to double check Google. And sure enough...
You probably should read this
http://www.chicagobusiness.com/article/20170428/BLOGS02/170429849/emanuel-cps-will-complete-full-term-through-june-20
It highlights how the school system here has been fighting with the govenor and state to get their needs met.
Chicago public schools have lost millions of dollars in funding for years. Dozens of schools have closed in the short timespan that Ive been here. Where do you think most of these schools are? They're not in the white neighborhoods?
http://www.usccr.gov/pubs/IL-FoodDeserts-2011.pdf
https://www.chicagoreader.com/chicago/chicago-politics-segregation-african-american-black-white-hispanic-latino-population-census-community/Content?oid=3221712
this highlights food desserts and a overall lack of resources in these same areas. You can search englewood and see that it is one of the most resource lacking environments in the city.
Another Black community btw.
Now, add all of these factors into a nice cocktail. Poverty, no resources, schools are being closed down in non-white communitties, folks become aggressive ( impoverished folks do statistically), gun violence and BAM!
I'd add some context to the way you all are approaching this. Yall ki about gun violence and people being hoodlums often but its a little more multifaceted than posting and article and saying this is what it is....
This definitely puts it in a better perspective for me
Because I couldn't really understand why gun violence was so massive there
But, it looks like they're literally trying to put black people OWT :dead: or rather a certain financial class of them
Quote from: DVDDY. on July 06, 2017, 11:50:29 AM
Hopefully, they provide better counselors and teachers that can help the children. High school to college was the toughest time for me because of all the pressure from everyone. Glad I took a gap year to figure it out.
:stressed:
Quote from: MASTER MOST HIGH DIVINE SAINT on July 06, 2017, 11:48:58 AM
Quote from: AYR on July 06, 2017, 11:41:31 AM
The ultimate decision should be voted on by the parents/guardians etc
because it's their kids and they're gonna be the ones not getting a break regardless
ppl wanna "take a break" but if the mortgage/rent/ bills are due
their parents can't decide to take a break from paying with no contributions
from a 18+ year old adult
yh but how many of these families actually depend on their children to pay the bills though
IDK it would be nice if none of them were "depending"
on children to pay bills however once the "child" is 18 they should be contributing to the bills though and not depending on their parents for everything
Quote from: Kurama on July 06, 2017, 12:01:22 PM
Quote from: KhoiZan on July 06, 2017, 11:48:27 AM
Take a look at this before you guys continue to question this decision:
https://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20170523/englewood/state-black-unemployment-tied-for-worst-nation-report-says
I already knew this would be the case based on this new rule, but I wanted to double check Google. And sure enough...
You probably should read this
http://www.chicagobusiness.com/article/20170428/BLOGS02/170429849/emanuel-cps-will-complete-full-term-through-june-20
It highlights how the school system here has been fighting with the govenor and state to get their needs met.
Chicago public schools have lost millions of dollars in funding for years. Dozens of schools have closed in the short timespan that Ive been here. Where do you think most of these schools are? They're not in the white neighborhoods?
http://www.usccr.gov/pubs/IL-FoodDeserts-2011.pdf
https://www.chicagoreader.com/chicago/chicago-politics-segregation-african-american-black-white-hispanic-latino-population-census-community/Content?oid=3221712
this highlights food desserts and a overall lack of resources in these same areas. You can search englewood and see that it is one of the most resource lacking environments in the city.
Another Black community btw.
Now, add all of these factors into a nice cocktail. Poverty, no resources, schools are being closed down in non-white communitties, folks become aggressive ( impoverished folks do statistically), gun violence and BAM!
I'd add some context to the way you all are approaching this. Yall ki about gun violence and people being hoodlums often but its a little more multifaceted than posting an article and saying this is what it is....
:omgwatshappening:
Quote from: LORD GRAND SUPREME PRIME CELESTIAL MARSHALL on July 06, 2017, 12:03:25 PM
Quote from: Kurama on July 06, 2017, 12:01:22 PM
Quote from: KhoiZan on July 06, 2017, 11:48:27 AM
Take a look at this before you guys continue to question this decision:
https://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20170523/englewood/state-black-unemployment-tied-for-worst-nation-report-says
I already knew this would be the case based on this new rule, but I wanted to double check Google. And sure enough...
You probably should read this
http://www.chicagobusiness.com/article/20170428/BLOGS02/170429849/emanuel-cps-will-complete-full-term-through-june-20
It highlights how the school system here has been fighting with the govenor and state to get their needs met.
Chicago public schools have lost millions of dollars in funding for years. Dozens of schools have closed in the short timespan that Ive been here. Where do you think most of these schools are? They're not in the white neighborhoods?
http://www.usccr.gov/pubs/IL-FoodDeserts-2011.pdf
https://www.chicagoreader.com/chicago/chicago-politics-segregation-african-american-black-white-hispanic-latino-population-census-community/Content?oid=3221712
this highlights food desserts and a overall lack of resources in these same areas. You can search englewood and see that it is one of the most resource lacking environments in the city.
Another Black community btw.
Now, add all of these factors into a nice cocktail. Poverty, no resources, schools are being closed down in non-white communitties, folks become aggressive ( impoverished folks do statistically), gun violence and BAM!
I'd add some context to the way you all are approaching this. Yall ki about gun violence and people being hoodlums often but its a little more multifaceted than posting and article and saying this is what it is....
This definitely puts it in a better perspective for me
Quote from: KhoiZan on July 06, 2017, 12:05:27 PM
They're trying to put Black people out of everywhere, Ton.
Well, at least anywhere whites begin to settle -- the nice word for it is gentrification.
Happened to Brooklyn, happening to the Bronx, happening to Queens. None of this is new.
Yeah but Chicago is an anomaly :guys:
so I figured the situation wasnt black & white
Quote from: DVDDY. on July 06, 2017, 11:54:59 AM
Quote from: MASTER MOST HIGH DIVINE SAINT on July 06, 2017, 11:48:58 AM
Quote from: AYR on July 06, 2017, 11:41:31 AM
The ultimate decision should be voted on by the parents/guardians etc
because it's their kids and they're gonna be the ones not getting a break regardless
ppl wanna "take a break" but if the mortgage/rent/ bills are due
their parents can't decide to take a break from paying with no contributions
from a 18+ year old adult
yh but how many of these families actually depend on their children to pay the bills though
Also, the kids going to college is more likely to be a heavier financial burden on the parents than them "taking a break".
This isn't a logical argument.
no it's not if you're going to college and aren't rich there is plenty of financial aid resources, parents aren't responsible for an adults college tuition unless they have it and want to pay it
and it's not about a burden or dept as much as it's enabling an adult to be a freeloader.
Quote from: LORD GRAND SUPREME PRIME CELESTIAL MARSHALL on July 06, 2017, 12:03:25 PM
Quote from: Kurama on July 06, 2017, 12:01:22 PM
Quote from: KhoiZan on July 06, 2017, 11:48:27 AM
Take a look at this before you guys continue to question this decision:
https://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20170523/englewood/state-black-unemployment-tied-for-worst-nation-report-says
I already knew this would be the case based on this new rule, but I wanted to double check Google. And sure enough...
You probably should read this
http://www.chicagobusiness.com/article/20170428/BLOGS02/170429849/emanuel-cps-will-complete-full-term-through-june-20
It highlights how the school system here has been fighting with the govenor and state to get their needs met.
Chicago public schools have lost millions of dollars in funding for years. Dozens of schools have closed in the short timespan that Ive been here. Where do you think most of these schools are? They're not in the white neighborhoods?
http://www.usccr.gov/pubs/IL-FoodDeserts-2011.pdf
https://www.chicagoreader.com/chicago/chicago-politics-segregation-african-american-black-white-hispanic-latino-population-census-community/Content?oid=3221712
this highlights food desserts and a overall lack of resources in these same areas. You can search englewood and see that it is one of the most resource lacking environments in the city.
Another Black community btw.
Now, add all of these factors into a nice cocktail. Poverty, no resources, schools are being closed down in non-white communitties, folks become aggressive ( impoverished folks do statistically), gun violence and BAM!
I'd add some context to the way you all are approaching this. Yall ki about gun violence and people being hoodlums often but its a little more multifaceted than posting and article and saying this is what it is....
This definitely puts it in a better perspective for me
Because I couldn't really understand why gun violence was so massive there
But, it looks like they're literally trying to put black people OWT :dead: or rather a certain financial class of them
!!!
They''re gentrifying these same areas. Closing their schools, raising the rent, adding a starbucks here, a whole foods there, a condo here. It's terrible.
Chicago is one of the most segregated cities in the united states with most of the black folks being on the south or west. That's the areas being dismantled and rebuilt now.
But this level of GET BLK PPL THE FCK OUT is the most extreme I've EVER seen
:guys:
Ive seen gentrification in my own city but its usually like a small block or something
Not a whole damns section of a city with schools and entire neighborhoods
This is so damaging, especially to low income and minority students, and sadly blacks fit both demographics.
But the bottom line for America has always been to widen the gap. And like Sista Soulja said, take away our power to stand on our own two, to de-educate us.
Instead of going to a "pre-K to college" system, they need to be finding ways to LESSEN the burden of our educational system in America and overall make it more efficient.
We have to question why Chinese and Japanese students are more capable at a younger age!
This is just sad. And with Trump in office the agenda is really getting pushed further.
Quote from: LORD GRAND SUPREME PRIME CELESTIAL MARSHALL on July 06, 2017, 12:31:59 PM
But this level of GET BLK PPL THE FCK OUT is the most extreme I've EVER seen
:guys:
Ive seen gentrification in my own city but its usually like a small block or something
Not a whole damns section of a city with schools and entire neighborhoods
!!!
This is definitely different.
Quote from: KhoiZan on July 06, 2017, 12:33:48 PM
Quote from: LORD GRAND SUPREME PRIME CELESTIAL MARSHALL on July 06, 2017, 12:31:59 PM
But this level of GET BLK PPL THE FCK OUT is the most extreme I've EVER seen
:guys:
Ive seen gentrification in my own city but its usually like a small block or something
Not a whole damns section of a city with schools and entire neighborhoods
You clearly haven't been to Brooklyn then. :plzstop:
People used to kii @ the thought of even moving there. It was the hood -- period.
But now it's "artsy! edgy! the place for young professionals."
Only one of my neighbors were Black in my building.
I understand that, but Chicago is the only place I know of where 16 people die in one McDonalds on a sunday afternoon
Quote from: KhoiZan on July 06, 2017, 12:34:33 PM
or Harlem.
Another place that used to be the butt of hood jokes. Now it's "upscale! historic!"
s
d;sdsdsd
Like..this is nothing new.
I didn't say white people throwing the blacks out are new
but this initially stemmed from the gun violence and unemployment rates for me and why its happening so bad in chicago
Thats what Kurama posted :dead:
Quote from: KhoiZan on July 06, 2017, 12:29:21 PM
Gentrification is not a unique issue for Chicago by a long shot. Nor is poor school funding in Black neighborhoods.
I could pull up dozens of articles reflecting the same issues in other inner city neighborhoods around the country.
What I'm addressing is the uniquely higher need for employment there.
And how that makes this new rule somewhat logical.
Hope that makes sense.
Gentrification isn't the topic its a sidebar. Yes, poor funding is something that happens in our communities but like pretty much everything in life, the degree to which it extends or impacts vary.
Well you have your own definition of what is logical. I personally don't see how placing yet another barrier for some of these kids barely making it to their senior year, who are having to survive hiking to some of these "better" neighborhoods, and who come from areas without education, jobs, or overall support is helpful. Not even taking to account familial and cultural barriers.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinions I guess.
Quote from: Kurama on July 06, 2017, 12:37:34 PM
Quote from: KhoiZan on July 06, 2017, 12:29:21 PM
Gentrification is not a unique issue for Chicago by a long shot. Nor is poor school funding in Black neighborhoods.
I could pull up dozens of articles reflecting the same issues in other inner city neighborhoods around the country.
What I'm addressing is the uniquely higher need for employment there.
And how that makes this new rule somewhat logical.
Hope that makes sense.
Gentrification isn't the topic its a sidebar. Yes, poor funding is something that happens in our communities but like pretty much everything in life, the degree to which it extends or impacts vary.
Well you have your own definition of what is logical. I personally don't see how placing yet another barrier for some of these kids barely making it to their senior year, who are having to survive hiking to some of these "better" neighborhoods, and who come from areas without education, jobs, or overall support is helpful. Not even taking to account familial and cultural barriers.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinions I guess.
how is this a "barrier" for anyone? It's about the diploma
if a kid is eligible to get a diploma they're automatically eligible for the things that the program is forcing them to get (a college acceptance, job, military enrollment, etc.)
Quote from: LORD GRAND SUPREME PRIME CELESTIAL MARSHALL on July 06, 2017, 12:03:25 PM
Quote from: Kurama on July 06, 2017, 12:01:22 PM
Quote from: KhoiZan on July 06, 2017, 11:48:27 AM
Take a look at this before you guys continue to question this decision:
https://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20170523/englewood/state-black-unemployment-tied-for-worst-nation-report-says
I already knew this would be the case based on this new rule, but I wanted to double check Google. And sure enough...
You probably should read this
http://www.chicagobusiness.com/article/20170428/BLOGS02/170429849/emanuel-cps-will-complete-full-term-through-june-20
It highlights how the school system here has been fighting with the govenor and state to get their needs met.
Chicago public schools have lost millions of dollars in funding for years. Dozens of schools have closed in the short timespan that Ive been here. Where do you think most of these schools are? They're not in the white neighborhoods?
http://www.usccr.gov/pubs/IL-FoodDeserts-2011.pdf
https://www.chicagoreader.com/chicago/chicago-politics-segregation-african-american-black-white-hispanic-latino-population-census-community/Content?oid=3221712
this highlights food desserts and a overall lack of resources in these same areas. You can search englewood and see that it is one of the most resource lacking environments in the city.
Another Black community btw.
Now, add all of these factors into a nice cocktail. Poverty, no resources, schools are being closed down in non-white communitties, folks become aggressive ( impoverished folks do statistically), gun violence and BAM!
I'd add some context to the way you all are approaching this. Yall ki about gun violence and people being hoodlums often but its a little more multifaceted than posting and article and saying this is what it is....
This definitely puts it in a better perspective for me
Because I couldn't really understand why gun violence was so massive there
But, it looks like they're literally trying to put black people OWT :dead: or rather a certain financial class of them
Hhhhhh
Yea.... Chicago is kinda on whole other level of MESS for this to even be effective. :dead: He lives there, so I'm sure he would have a better understanding of what's really HAPP'.
Quote from: AYR on July 06, 2017, 12:42:46 PM
Quote from: Kurama on July 06, 2017, 12:37:34 PM
Quote from: KhoiZan on July 06, 2017, 12:29:21 PM
Gentrification is not a unique issue for Chicago by a long shot. Nor is poor school funding in Black neighborhoods.
I could pull up dozens of articles reflecting the same issues in other inner city neighborhoods around the country.
What I'm addressing is the uniquely higher need for employment there.
And how that makes this new rule somewhat logical.
Hope that makes sense.
Gentrification isn't the topic its a sidebar. Yes, poor funding is something that happens in our communities but like pretty much everything in life, the degree to which it extends or impacts vary.
Well you have your own definition of what is logical. I personally don't see how placing yet another barrier for some of these kids barely making it to their senior year, who are having to survive hiking to some of these "better" neighborhoods, and who come from areas without education, jobs, or overall support is helpful. Not even taking to account familial and cultural barriers.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinions I guess.
how is this a "barrier" for anyone? It's about the diploma
if a kid is eligible to get a diploma they're automatically eligible for the things that the program is forcing them to get (a college acceptance, job, military enrollment, etc.)
tickets to a fairytale imo. It's a nice thought, but I wouldn't say this is statement is automatically true.
If kids are skipping school now, where is a rule like this going to drive them?
Quote from: ORORO MUNROE-UDAKU on July 06, 2017, 12:48:02 PM
Quote from: AYR on July 06, 2017, 12:42:46 PM
Quote from: Kurama on July 06, 2017, 12:37:34 PM
Quote from: KhoiZan on July 06, 2017, 12:29:21 PM
Gentrification is not a unique issue for Chicago by a long shot. Nor is poor school funding in Black neighborhoods.
I could pull up dozens of articles reflecting the same issues in other inner city neighborhoods around the country.
What I'm addressing is the uniquely higher need for employment there.
And how that makes this new rule somewhat logical.
Hope that makes sense.
Gentrification isn't the topic its a sidebar. Yes, poor funding is something that happens in our communities but like pretty much everything in life, the degree to which it extends or impacts vary.
Well you have your own definition of what is logical. I personally don't see how placing yet another barrier for some of these kids barely making it to their senior year, who are having to survive hiking to some of these "better" neighborhoods, and who come from areas without education, jobs, or overall support is helpful. Not even taking to account familial and cultural barriers.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinions I guess.
how is this a "barrier" for anyone? It's about the diploma
if a kid is eligible to get a diploma they're automatically eligible for the things that the program is forcing them to get (a college acceptance, job, military enrollment, etc.)
tickets to a fairytale imo. It's a nice thought, but I wouldn't say this is statement is automatically true.
If kids are skipping school now, where is a rule like this going to drive them?
its definitely true IDK what kids skipping school has to do with this
those kids aren't trying to get their diploma anyway
Quote from: Kordei. on July 06, 2017, 10:12:25 AM
You can't implement shit like this as if everyone's situation is the same. There is real struggle out there and many people are at a disadvantage. Particularly Black Boys. I wish God was real so that he could wipe this earth of all white people.
Except my family members.
the sun is slowly burning them alive
Quote from: Kurama on July 06, 2017, 12:01:22 PM
Quote from: KhoiZan on July 06, 2017, 11:48:27 AM
Take a look at this before you guys continue to question this decision:
https://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20170523/englewood/state-black-unemployment-tied-for-worst-nation-report-says
I already knew this would be the case based on this new rule, but I wanted to double check Google. And sure enough...
You probably should read this
http://www.chicagobusiness.com/article/20170428/BLOGS02/170429849/emanuel-cps-will-complete-full-term-through-june-20
It highlights how the school system here has been fighting with the govenor and state to get their needs met.
Chicago public schools have lost millions of dollars in funding for years. Dozens of schools have closed in the short timespan that Ive been here. Where do you think most of these schools are? They're not in the white neighborhoods?
http://www.usccr.gov/pubs/IL-FoodDeserts-2011.pdf
https://www.chicagoreader.com/chicago/chicago-politics-segregation-african-american-black-white-hispanic-latino-population-census-community/Content?oid=3221712
this highlights food desserts and a overall lack of resources in these same areas. You can search englewood and see that it is one of the most resource lacking environments in the city.
Another Black community btw.
Now, add all of these factors into a nice cocktail. Poverty, no resources, schools are being closed down in non-white communitties, folks become aggressive ( impoverished folks do statistically), gun violence and BAM!
I'd add some context to the way you all are approaching this. Yall ki about gun violence and people being hoodlums often but its a little more multifaceted than posting an article and saying this is what it is....
Thanks beloved
Quote from: AYR on July 06, 2017, 10:20:48 AM
I like this
did everyone read the actual article?
It says you have to have college acceptance, a job or military enlisted
if you have the grades to get your diploma I don't see how none of these options would be possible Black or not. and tbh if you wanna beat this all you have to do is get accepted to a junior/community college real quick until graduation
don't even have to really attend
so dumb
how bout you shut the fuck up
no one dictates what you do when you graduate cause that has nothing to do with high school if you earned your diploma you earned it like...
lol @ grades do you know how many niggas are d and c students?
and coming up with ways to "beat" the system is dumb cause the system is wrong to propose this from jump so having ppul beat it defeats the original purpose and is equally just as dumb
If the students get the grades and the credits to graduate from school, then they should receive their diploma. END OF STORY. Guidance counselors and parents should be pissed off regarding this law because it's stupid and doesn't really serve a purpose but to put more and more young people behind and making sure that they become a statistic. Simple as that.
and who tf is living in these poor communities traveling abroad? Some of them haven't even visited other parts of Illinois let alone thinking about traveling to another country :uhh:
Quote from: KhoiZan on July 06, 2017, 01:00:10 PM
Quote from: Kurama on July 06, 2017, 12:37:34 PM
Quote from: KhoiZan on July 06, 2017, 12:29:21 PM
Gentrification is not a unique issue for Chicago by a long shot. Nor is poor school funding in Black neighborhoods.
I could pull up dozens of articles reflecting the same issues in other inner city neighborhoods around the country.
What I'm addressing is the uniquely higher need for employment there.
And how that makes this new rule somewhat logical.
Hope that makes sense.
Gentrification isn't the topic its a sidebar. Yes, poor funding is something that happens in our communities but like pretty much everything in life, the degree to which it extends or impacts vary.
Well you have your own definition of what is logical. I personally don't see how placing yet another barrier for some of these kids barely making it to their senior year, who are having to survive hiking to some of these "better" neighborhoods, and who come from areas without education, jobs, or overall support is helpful. Not even taking to account familial and cultural barriers.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinions I guess.
And my opinion is that lil Jaquan from Chicago is less likely to spend his gap year broadening his horizons and doing world traveling, and is more likely to spend it getting in trouble or shot down by a cop for wandering around in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Okay,
Im not sure what this has to do with what you and I began conversing about.
I also think if you actually look at everything I presented in context "world traveling" is also problematic.
Quote from: Kurama on July 06, 2017, 01:07:11 PM
Quote from: KhoiZan on July 06, 2017, 01:00:10 PM
Quote from: Kurama on July 06, 2017, 12:37:34 PM
Quote from: KhoiZan on July 06, 2017, 12:29:21 PM
Gentrification is not a unique issue for Chicago by a long shot. Nor is poor school funding in Black neighborhoods.
I could pull up dozens of articles reflecting the same issues in other inner city neighborhoods around the country.
What I'm addressing is the uniquely higher need for employment there.
And how that makes this new rule somewhat logical.
Hope that makes sense.
Gentrification isn't the topic its a sidebar. Yes, poor funding is something that happens in our communities but like pretty much everything in life, the degree to which it extends or impacts vary.
Well you have your own definition of what is logical. I personally don't see how placing yet another barrier for some of these kids barely making it to their senior year, who are having to survive hiking to some of these "better" neighborhoods, and who come from areas without education, jobs, or overall support is helpful. Not even taking to account familial and cultural barriers.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinions I guess.
And my opinion is that lil Jaquan from Chicago is less likely to spend his gap year broadening his horizons and doing world traveling, and is more likely to spend it getting in trouble or shot down by a cop for wandering around in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Okay,
Im not sure what this has to do with what you and I began conversing about.
I also think if you actually look at everything I presented in context "world traveling" is also problematic.
:kii: :kii: :kii: i didnt get the connection either but
What are gap years lol
Ah got ya.
Interesting that it didnt go anywhere after I addressed you with a different perspective when you pretty much posted the article as a means to solidify/hail your stance. You didn't even address that.
Thanks for the discussion though.😉
Ray ill respond in an hour have some work I have to do.
Quote from: Kurama on July 06, 2017, 01:19:00 PM
Ray ill respond in an hour have some work I have to do.
:plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii:
Quote from: Kurama on July 06, 2017, 01:19:00 PM
Ah got ya.
Interesting that it didnt go anywhere after I addressed you with a different perspective when you pretty much posted the article as a means to solidify/hail your stance. You didn't even address that.
Thanks for the discussion though.😉
Ray ill respond in an hour have some work I have to do.
:guys:
(sigh) what are gap years
Quote from: TheNextLew on July 06, 2017, 12:58:33 PM
Quote from: AYR on July 06, 2017, 10:20:48 AM
I like this
did everyone read the actual article?
It says you have to have college acceptance, a job or military enlisted
if you have the grades to get your diploma I don't see how none of these options would be possible Black or not. and tbh if you wanna beat this all you have to do is get accepted to a junior/community college real quick until graduation
don't even have to really attend
so dumb
how bout you shut the fuck up
no one dictates what you do when you graduate cause that has nothing to do with high school if you earned your diploma you earned it like...
lol @ grades do you know how many niggas are d and c students?
and coming up with ways to "beat" the system is dumb cause the system is wrong to propose this from jump so having ppul beat it defeats the original purpose and is equally just as dumb
what are you arguing? C students can get diplomas and jobs/go to college :dead: boy go eat
:plzstop:
Ray did you just brush off (black) low income kids skipping school like it's of no consequence :dead:
We have to be more mindful of the struggles of ALL our ppl. Some kids skip school because they have nothing to wear or they stink or they're parents don't have means for babysitters for younger siblings
Let's UP the requirements and have less graduates so we can compound that issue
I hate when things like this happen and ppl don't think of the long term damaged or implications. It just makes things worse
Quote from: ORORO MUNROE-UDAKU on July 06, 2017, 01:33:57 PM
:plzstop:
Ray did you just brush off (black) low income kids skipping school like it's of no consequence :dead:
We have to be more mindful of the struggles of ALL our ppl. Some kids skip school because they have nothing to wear or they stink or they're parents don't have means for babysitters for younger siblings
Let's UP the requirements and have less graduates so we can compound that issue
I hate when things like this happen and ppl don't think of the long term damaged or implications. It just makes things worse
oh wow :wub:
Quote from: ORORO MUNROE-UDAKU on July 06, 2017, 01:33:57 PM
:plzstop:
Ray did you just brush off (black) low income kids skipping school like it's of no consequence :dead:
We have to be more mindful of the struggles of ALL our ppl. Some kids skip school because they have nothing to wear or they stink or they're parents don't have means for babysitters for younger siblings
Let's UP the requirements and have less graduates so we can compound that issue
I hate when things like this happen and ppl don't think of the long term damaged or implications. It just makes things worse
they have nothing to do with this topic
no ones upping any requirement. If a student has the grades to graduation
any local community college will accept them or even fast food/retail
I worked at a library part time starting in my senior year.
We gotta stop the excuses
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Quote from: TheNextLew on July 06, 2017, 01:25:47 PM
(sigh) what are gap years
not going to college after high school for a year or more to focus on working, traveling, etc.
Why did you explain it to him
Quote from: AYR on July 06, 2017, 01:30:00 PM
Quote from: TheNextLew on July 06, 2017, 12:58:33 PM
Quote from: AYR on July 06, 2017, 10:20:48 AM
I like this
did everyone read the actual article?
It says you have to have college acceptance, a job or military enlisted
if you have the grades to get your diploma I don't see how none of these options would be possible Black or not. and tbh if you wanna beat this all you have to do is get accepted to a junior/community college real quick until graduation
don't even have to really attend
so dumb
how bout you shut the fuck up
no one dictates what you do when you graduate cause that has nothing to do with high school if you earned your diploma you earned it like...
lol @ grades do you know how many niggas are d and c students?
and coming up with ways to "beat" the system is dumb cause the system is wrong to propose this from jump so having ppul beat it defeats the original purpose and is equally just as dumb
what are you arguing? C students can get diplomas and jobs/go to college :dead: boy go eat
Im arguing its none of your fucking business what i do when i graduate
Quote from: TheNextLew on July 06, 2017, 02:13:41 PM
Quote from: AYR on July 06, 2017, 01:30:00 PM
Quote from: TheNextLew on July 06, 2017, 12:58:33 PM
Quote from: AYR on July 06, 2017, 10:20:48 AM
I like this
did everyone read the actual article?
It says you have to have college acceptance, a job or military enlisted
if you have the grades to get your diploma I don't see how none of these options would be possible Black or not. and tbh if you wanna beat this all you have to do is get accepted to a junior/community college real quick until graduation
don't even have to really attend
so dumb
how bout you shut the fuck up
no one dictates what you do when you graduate cause that has nothing to do with high school if you earned your diploma you earned it like...
lol @ grades do you know how many niggas are d and c students?
and coming up with ways to "beat" the system is dumb cause the system is wrong to propose this from jump so having ppul beat it defeats the original purpose and is equally just as dumb
what are you arguing? C students can get diplomas and jobs/go to college :dead: boy go eat
Im arguing its none of your fucking business what i do when i graduate
if you're a resident in my city where I'm the mayor it is my business
Quote from: AYR on July 06, 2017, 01:40:13 PM
Quote from: ORORO MUNROE-UDAKU on July 06, 2017, 01:33:57 PM
:plzstop:
Ray did you just brush off (black) low income kids skipping school like it's of no consequence :dead:
We have to be more mindful of the struggles of ALL our ppl. Some kids skip school because they have nothing to wear or they stink or they're parents don't have means for babysitters for younger siblings
Let's UP the requirements and have less graduates so we can compound that issue
I hate when things like this happen and ppl don't think of the long term damaged or implications. It just makes things worse
they have nothing to do with this topic
no ones upping any requirement. If a student has the grades to graduation
any local community college will accept them or even fast food/retail
I worked at a library part time starting in my senior year.
We gotta stop the excuses
i mean I can't comment cause I don't know your upbringing
I can't assume you were afforded some opportunities that some don't get but
Me personally, I got blessed with great parents that cared.
I'm just saying not everyone's situation is the same bighead :blush:
Quote from: KhoiZan on July 06, 2017, 01:24:52 PM
And that's why I put "conversation" in quotations. At no point were we really conversing, as I honestly didn't pay much attention to anything you posted.
Understandable, another interesting point though. Especially considering how you seem to proclaim how you enjoy a certain type of interaction that allows folks to have different perspectives and remain adult, respectful, and non-shady.
Maybe if you actually paid attention more you wouldn't become so disgruntled or "unbothered" when your perspective is well... stomped out- for a lack of better phrase lolz.
I would love to see this facade you're trying to keep up actually become a reality love.
:guys:
Quote from: ORORO MUNROE-UDAKU on July 06, 2017, 02:22:54 PM
Quote from: AYR on July 06, 2017, 01:40:13 PM
Quote from: ORORO MUNROE-UDAKU on July 06, 2017, 01:33:57 PM
:plzstop:
Ray did you just brush off (black) low income kids skipping school like it's of no consequence :dead:
We have to be more mindful of the struggles of ALL our ppl. Some kids skip school because they have nothing to wear or they stink or they're parents don't have means for babysitters for younger siblings
Let's UP the requirements and have less graduates so we can compound that issue
I hate when things like this happen and ppl don't think of the long term damaged or implications. It just makes things worse
they have nothing to do with this topic
no ones upping any requirement. If a student has the grades to graduation
any local community college will accept them or even fast food/retail
I worked at a library part time starting in my senior year.
We gotta stop the excuses
i mean I can't comment cause I don't know your upbringing
I can't assume you were afforded some opportunities that some don't get but
Me personally, I got blessed with great parents that cared.
I'm just saying not everyone's situation is the same bighead :blush:
this doesn't have anything to do with parents or situations
all it's about is making young adults responsible for themselves
Quote from: Kurama on July 06, 2017, 02:23:59 PM
Quote from: KhoiZan on July 06, 2017, 01:24:52 PM
And that's why I put "conversation" in quotations. At no point were we really conversing, as I honestly didn't pay much attention to anything you posted.
Understandable, another interesting point though. Especially considering how you seem to proclaim how you enjoy a certain type of interaction that allows folks to have different perspectives and remain adult, respectful, and non-shady.
Maybe if you actually paid attention more you wouldn't become so disgruntled or "unbothered" when your perspective is well... stomped out- for a lack of better phrase lolz.
I would love to see this facade you're trying to keep up actually become a reality love.
:guys:
Quote from: AYR on July 06, 2017, 12:42:46 PM
Quote from: Kurama on July 06, 2017, 12:37:34 PM
Quote from: KhoiZan on July 06, 2017, 12:29:21 PM
Gentrification is not a unique issue for Chicago by a long shot. Nor is poor school funding in Black neighborhoods.
I could pull up dozens of articles reflecting the same issues in other inner city neighborhoods around the country.
What I'm addressing is the uniquely higher need for employment there.
And how that makes this new rule somewhat logical.
Hope that makes sense.
Gentrification isn't the topic its a sidebar. Yes, poor funding is something that happens in our communities but like pretty much everything in life, the degree to which it extends or impacts vary.
Well you have your own definition of what is logical. I personally don't see how placing yet another barrier for some of these kids barely making it to their senior year, who are having to survive hiking to some of these "better" neighborhoods, and who come from areas without education, jobs, or overall support is helpful. Not even taking to account familial and cultural barriers.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinions I guess.
how is this a "barrier" for anyone? It's about the diploma
if a kid is eligible to get a diploma they're automatically eligible for the things that the program is forcing them to get (a college acceptance, job, military enrollment, etc.)
I really think you're coming from a personal place rather than looking at context and different lived experiences.
A kid is eligible for a diploma based on their performance in school. Nothing afterward. Some kids do not go to college, its not for everyone. Same for the military.
To force kids to have engagement with either (especially military) just to receive something they already earned is criminal. Especially taking into account that not having a diploma will effectively hinder their gross income potential(may affect their families), they would have to remain in school after completing all courses, they would be forced to engage in something they may not even want to do.
All of this may even push them back to the communities that they were tryna get away from.
Quote from: ANIMMAI on July 06, 2017, 02:27:55 PM
Quote from: Kurama on July 06, 2017, 02:23:59 PM
Quote from: KhoiZan on July 06, 2017, 01:24:52 PM
And that's why I put "conversation" in quotations. At no point were we really conversing, as I honestly didn't pay much attention to anything you posted.
Understandable, another interesting point though. Especially considering how you seem to proclaim how you enjoy a certain type of interaction that allows folks to have different perspectives and remain adult, respectful, and non-shady.
Maybe if you actually paid attention more you wouldn't become so disgruntled or "unbothered" when your perspective is well... stomped out- for a lack of better phrase lolz.
I would love to see this facade you're trying to keep up actually become a reality love.
:guys:
:omgwatshappening:
(https://assets.rbl.ms/8987063/980x.jpg)
(https://uploadir.com/u/zc7x4qec)
(https://uploadir.com/u/o2e5air6)
K.
Quote from: AYR on July 06, 2017, 02:22:33 PM
Quote from: TheNextLew on July 06, 2017, 02:13:41 PM
Quote from: AYR on July 06, 2017, 01:30:00 PM
Quote from: TheNextLew on July 06, 2017, 12:58:33 PM
Quote from: AYR on July 06, 2017, 10:20:48 AM
I like this
did everyone read the actual article?
It says you have to have college acceptance, a job or military enlisted
if you have the grades to get your diploma I don't see how none of these options would be possible Black or not. and tbh if you wanna beat this all you have to do is get accepted to a junior/community college real quick until graduation
don't even have to really attend
so dumb
how bout you shut the fuck up
no one dictates what you do when you graduate cause that has nothing to do with high school if you earned your diploma you earned it like...
lol @ grades do you know how many niggas are d and c students?
and coming up with ways to "beat" the system is dumb cause the system is wrong to propose this from jump so having ppul beat it defeats the original purpose and is equally just as dumb
what are you arguing? C students can get diplomas and jobs/go to college :dead: boy go eat
Im arguing its none of your fucking business what i do when i graduate
if you're a resident in my city where I'm the mayor it is my business
No its not
:dead:
Quote from: MelMel on July 06, 2017, 02:03:10 PM
Quote from: TheNextLew on July 06, 2017, 01:25:47 PM
(sigh) what are gap years
not going to college after high school for a year or more to focus on working, traveling, etc.
well yeah i think everyone should be entitled to choose
like you have to go to school for those 12 years and then to turn around and say you have to do this when you graduate or you cant graduate is so dumb :plzstop:
Quote from: Kurama on July 06, 2017, 02:23:59 PM
Quote from: KhoiZan on July 06, 2017, 01:24:52 PM
And that's why I put "conversation" in quotations. At no point were we really conversing, as I honestly didn't pay much attention to anything you posted.
Understandable, another interesting point though. Especially considering how you seem to proclaim how you enjoy a certain type of interaction that allows folks to have different perspectives and remain adult, respectful, and non-shady.
Maybe if you actually paid attention more you wouldn't become so disgruntled or "unbothered" when your perspective is well... stomped out- for a lack of better phrase lolz.
I would love to see this facade you're trying to keep up actually become a reality love.
omg 😲
Quote from: Kurama on July 06, 2017, 02:28:06 PM
Quote from: AYR on July 06, 2017, 12:42:46 PM
Quote from: Kurama on July 06, 2017, 12:37:34 PM
Quote from: KhoiZan on July 06, 2017, 12:29:21 PM
Gentrification is not a unique issue for Chicago by a long shot. Nor is poor school funding in Black neighborhoods.
I could pull up dozens of articles reflecting the same issues in other inner city neighborhoods around the country.
What I'm addressing is the uniquely higher need for employment there.
And how that makes this new rule somewhat logical.
Hope that makes sense.
Gentrification isn't the topic its a sidebar. Yes, poor funding is something that happens in our communities but like pretty much everything in life, the degree to which it extends or impacts vary.
Well you have your own definition of what is logical. I personally don't see how placing yet another barrier for some of these kids barely making it to their senior year, who are having to survive hiking to some of these "better" neighborhoods, and who come from areas without education, jobs, or overall support is helpful. Not even taking to account familial and cultural barriers.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinions I guess.
how is this a "barrier" for anyone? It's about the diploma
if a kid is eligible to get a diploma they're automatically eligible for the things that the program is forcing them to get (a college acceptance, job, military enrollment, etc.)
I really think you're coming from a personal place rather than looking at context and different lived experiences.
A kid is eligible for a diploma based on their performance in school. Nothing afterward. Some kids do not go to college, its not for everyone. Same for the military.
To force kids to have engagement with either (especially military) just to receive something they already earned is criminal. Especially taking into account that not having a diploma will effectively hinder their gross income potential(may affect their families), they would have to remain in school after completing all courses, they would be forced to engage in something they may not even want to do.
All of this may even push them back to the communities that they were tryna get away from.
Im not viewing this personally at all. Earning a high school diploma automatically places a person in the position for some type of higher education or employment. You can even be employed at certain places before getting a diploma. This is not saying you have to start a career or go to an Ivy League school. It's just asking for proof that the student is at least trying to better themself. Military or college, gap, a job SOMETHING
and for college they just want an acceptance letter you don't even have to go. No one is being forced into any certain place they don't want to be except staying home doing nothing
and life is not always about what everyone "wants" this is teaching these kids that very important lesson. When you're an adult no has to let you just wait until you're "ready". Verizon doesn't "give me a break" because I graduated before they ask for their money for the phone bill
why should these kids be allowed to not do anything because they got a diploma which is really nothing in today's work force?
Quote from: TheNextLew on July 06, 2017, 02:43:58 PM
Quote from: AYR on July 06, 2017, 02:22:33 PM
Quote from: TheNextLew on July 06, 2017, 02:13:41 PM
Quote from: AYR on July 06, 2017, 01:30:00 PM
Quote from: TheNextLew on July 06, 2017, 12:58:33 PM
Quote from: AYR on July 06, 2017, 10:20:48 AM
I like this
did everyone read the actual article?
It says you have to have college acceptance, a job or military enlisted
if you have the grades to get your diploma I don't see how none of these options would be possible Black or not. and tbh if you wanna beat this all you have to do is get accepted to a junior/community college real quick until graduation
don't even have to really attend
so dumb
how bout you shut the fuck up
no one dictates what you do when you graduate cause that has nothing to do with high school if you earned your diploma you earned it like...
lol @ grades do you know how many niggas are d and c students?
and coming up with ways to "beat" the system is dumb cause the system is wrong to propose this from jump so having ppul beat it defeats the original purpose and is equally just as dumb
what are you arguing? C students can get diplomas and jobs/go to college :dead: boy go eat
Im arguing its none of your fucking business what i do when i graduate
if you're a resident in my city where I'm the mayor it is my business
No its not
are your records not kept at city hall in your town?
(https://uploadir.com/u/r09fmyhk)
Quote from: AYR on July 06, 2017, 02:57:22 PM
Quote from: Kurama on July 06, 2017, 02:28:06 PM
Quote from: AYR on July 06, 2017, 12:42:46 PM
Quote from: Kurama on July 06, 2017, 12:37:34 PM
Quote from: KhoiZan on July 06, 2017, 12:29:21 PM
Gentrification is not a unique issue for Chicago by a long shot. Nor is poor school funding in Black neighborhoods.
I could pull up dozens of articles reflecting the same issues in other inner city neighborhoods around the country.
What I'm addressing is the uniquely higher need for employment there.
And how that makes this new rule somewhat logical.
Hope that makes sense.
Gentrification isn't the topic its a sidebar. Yes, poor funding is something that happens in our communities but like pretty much everything in life, the degree to which it extends or impacts vary.
Well you have your own definition of what is logical. I personally don't see how placing yet another barrier for some of these kids barely making it to their senior year, who are having to survive hiking to some of these "better" neighborhoods, and who come from areas without education, jobs, or overall support is helpful. Not even taking to account familial and cultural barriers.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinions I guess.
how is this a "barrier" for anyone? It's about the diploma
if a kid is eligible to get a diploma they're automatically eligible for the things that the program is forcing them to get (a college acceptance, job, military enrollment, etc.)
I really think you're coming from a personal place rather than looking at context and different lived experiences.
A kid is eligible for a diploma based on their performance in school. Nothing afterward. Some kids do not go to college, its not for everyone. Same for the military.
To force kids to have engagement with either (especially military) just to receive something they already earned is criminal. Especially taking into account that not having a diploma will effectively hinder their gross income potential(may affect their families), they would have to remain in school after completing all courses, they would be forced to engage in something they may not even want to do.
All of this may even push them back to the communities that they were tryna get away from.
Im not viewing this personally at all. 1.Earning a high school diploma automatically places a person in the position for some type of higher education or employment. You can even be employed at certain places before getting a diploma. This is not saying you have to start a career or go to an Ivy League school. 2.It's just asking for proof that the student is at least trying to better themself. Military or college, gap, a job SOMETHING
and for college they just want an acceptance letter you don't even have to go. 3. No one is being forced into any certain place they don't want to be except staying home doing nothing
and life is not always about what everyone "wants" this is teaching these kids that very important lesson. When you're an adult no has to let you just wait until you're "ready". Verizon doesn't "give me a break" because I graduated before they ask for their money for the phone bill
4.why should these kids be allowed to not do anything because they got a diploma which is really nothing in today's work force?
Agreed so why place another obstacle to attain one?
College and the military are the only ways to better yourself? Aren't there people, hell even celebrities who have done immensely well for themselves and their communities without either?
Who decides what lessons are important? The kids? The parents? The government? I don't think having a whole curriculum around geometry, PE, physics, or trig have been helpful in my life or my friends.
That's the assumption I don't agree with. We're conditioned to feel like college and the military are our ONLY options. Considering how people have been graduating with degrees for almost a decade and still not finding jobs while being buried in debt, considering how there are veterans who come back from war homeless without any assistance, and considering how the government has been instrumental in harming these kids, the community, and their education for decades now this is just another policy that asks folks to jump through hoops.
I guarantee yall that these kids who are seniors who do want to strive to make something of themselves (I'd argue that they probably already have) have the drive to do it on their own. REQUIRING them to prove that to you, the institution, and the government that doesn't really give a shit about them is asinine imo.
I agree with Ku'
Quote from: Kurama on July 06, 2017, 03:07:15 PM
Quote from: AYR on July 06, 2017, 02:57:22 PM
Quote from: Kurama on July 06, 2017, 02:28:06 PM
Quote from: AYR on July 06, 2017, 12:42:46 PM
Quote from: Kurama on July 06, 2017, 12:37:34 PM
Quote from: KhoiZan on July 06, 2017, 12:29:21 PM
Gentrification is not a unique issue for Chicago by a long shot. Nor is poor school funding in Black neighborhoods.
I could pull up dozens of articles reflecting the same issues in other inner city neighborhoods around the country.
What I'm addressing is the uniquely higher need for employment there.
And how that makes this new rule somewhat logical.
Hope that makes sense.
Gentrification isn't the topic its a sidebar. Yes, poor funding is something that happens in our communities but like pretty much everything in life, the degree to which it extends or impacts vary.
Well you have your own definition of what is logical. I personally don't see how placing yet another barrier for some of these kids barely making it to their senior year, who are having to survive hiking to some of these "better" neighborhoods, and who come from areas without education, jobs, or overall support is helpful. Not even taking to account familial and cultural barriers.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinions I guess.
how is this a "barrier" for anyone? It's about the diploma
if a kid is eligible to get a diploma they're automatically eligible for the things that the program is forcing them to get (a college acceptance, job, military enrollment, etc.)
I really think you're coming from a personal place rather than looking at context and different lived experiences.
A kid is eligible for a diploma based on their performance in school. Nothing afterward. Some kids do not go to college, its not for everyone. Same for the military.
To force kids to have engagement with either (especially military) just to receive something they already earned is criminal. Especially taking into account that not having a diploma will effectively hinder their gross income potential(may affect their families), they would have to remain in school after completing all courses, they would be forced to engage in something they may not even want to do.
All of this may even push them back to the communities that they were tryna get away from.
Im not viewing this personally at all. 1.Earning a high school diploma automatically places a person in the position for some type of higher education or employment. You can even be employed at certain places before getting a diploma. This is not saying you have to start a career or go to an Ivy League school. 2.It's just asking for proof that the student is at least trying to better themself. Military or college, gap, a job SOMETHING
and for college they just want an acceptance letter you don't even have to go. 3. No one is being forced into any certain place they don't want to be except staying home doing nothing
and life is not always about what everyone "wants" this is teaching these kids that very important lesson. When you're an adult no has to let you just wait until you're "ready". Verizon doesn't "give me a break" because I graduated before they ask for their money for the phone bill
4.why should these kids be allowed to not do anything because they got a diploma which is really nothing in today's work force?
Agreed so why place another obstacle to attain one?
College and the military are the only ways to better yourself? Aren't there people, hell even celebrities who have done immensely well for themselves and their communities without either?
Who decides what lessons are important? The kids? The parents? The government? I don't think having a whole curriculum around geometry, PE, physics, or trig have been helpful in my life or my friends.
That's the assumption I don't agree with. We're conditioned to feel like college and the military are our ONLY options. Considering how people have been graduating with degrees for almost a decade and still not finding jobs while being buried in debt, considering how there are veterans who come back from war homeless without any assistance, and considering how the government has been instrumental in harming these kids, the community, and their education for decades now this is just another policy that asks folks to jump through hoops.
I guarantee yall that these kids who are seniors who do want to strive to make something of themselves (I'd argue that they probably already have) have the drive to do it on their own. REQUIRING them to prove that to you, the institution, and the government that doesn't really give a shit about them is asinine imo.
you are just... :stressed: :stressed: :stressed:
Quote from: Kurama on July 06, 2017, 02:23:59 PM
Quote from: KhoiZan on July 06, 2017, 01:24:52 PM
And that's why I put "conversation" in quotations. At no point were we really conversing, as I honestly didn't pay much attention to anything you posted.
Understandable, another interesting point though. Especially considering how you seem to proclaim how you enjoy a certain type of interaction that allows folks to have different perspectives and remain adult, respectful, and non-shady.
Maybe if you actually paid attention more you wouldn't become so disgruntled or "unbothered" when your perspective is well... stomped out- for a lack of better phrase lolz.
I would love to see this facade you're trying to keep up actually become a reality love.
listen .... LISTEN!
cause when I say I LOVE you!!!! Jesus CHRIST!!!
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I can never support something that removes free will from the equation.
Quote from: Kurama on July 06, 2017, 02:43:23 PM
K.
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Juju on 'em curls
Juju on 'em curls
Juju on 'em
Juju on 'em
Juju on 'em curls
LMAO!!!!
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Quote from: AYR on July 06, 2017, 03:00:54 PM
Quote from: TheNextLew on July 06, 2017, 02:43:58 PM
Quote from: AYR on July 06, 2017, 02:22:33 PM
Quote from: TheNextLew on July 06, 2017, 02:13:41 PM
Quote from: AYR on July 06, 2017, 01:30:00 PM
Quote from: TheNextLew on July 06, 2017, 12:58:33 PM
Quote from: AYR on July 06, 2017, 10:20:48 AM
I like this
did everyone read the actual article?
It says you have to have college acceptance, a job or military enlisted
if you have the grades to get your diploma I don't see how none of these options would be possible Black or not. and tbh if you wanna beat this all you have to do is get accepted to a junior/community college real quick until graduation
don't even have to really attend
so dumb
how bout you shut the fuck up
no one dictates what you do when you graduate cause that has nothing to do with high school if you earned your diploma you earned it like...
lol @ grades do you know how many niggas are d and c students?
and coming up with ways to "beat" the system is dumb cause the system is wrong to propose this from jump so having ppul beat it defeats the original purpose and is equally just as dumb
what are you arguing? C students can get diplomas and jobs/go to college :dead: boy go eat
Im arguing its none of your fucking business what i do when i graduate
if you're a resident in my city where I'm the mayor it is my business
No its not
are your records not kept at city hall in your town?
Not school records thats kept by the respective school districts and schools
city hall keeps vital statistic information and marriage licenses business and tax information ect
and a
public official such as a
mayor is not entitled to private information unless he gets a court order or subpoena to look into them
and school records are covered by the ferpa laws
you are not making sense
Quote from: Kurama on July 06, 2017, 03:07:15 PM
Quote from: AYR on July 06, 2017, 02:57:22 PM
Quote from: Kurama on July 06, 2017, 02:28:06 PM
Quote from: AYR on July 06, 2017, 12:42:46 PM
Quote from: Kurama on July 06, 2017, 12:37:34 PM
Quote from: KhoiZan on July 06, 2017, 12:29:21 PM
Gentrification is not a unique issue for Chicago by a long shot. Nor is poor school funding in Black neighborhoods.
I could pull up dozens of articles reflecting the same issues in other inner city neighborhoods around the country.
What I'm addressing is the uniquely higher need for employment there.
And how that makes this new rule somewhat logical.
Hope that makes sense.
Gentrification isn't the topic its a sidebar. Yes, poor funding is something that happens in our communities but like pretty much everything in life, the degree to which it extends or impacts vary.
Well you have your own definition of what is logical. I personally don't see how placing yet another barrier for some of these kids barely making it to their senior year, who are having to survive hiking to some of these "better" neighborhoods, and who come from areas without education, jobs, or overall support is helpful. Not even taking to account familial and cultural barriers.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinions I guess.
how is this a "barrier" for anyone? It's about the diploma
if a kid is eligible to get a diploma they're automatically eligible for the things that the program is forcing them to get (a college acceptance, job, military enrollment, etc.)
I really think you're coming from a personal place rather than looking at context and different lived experiences.
A kid is eligible for a diploma based on their performance in school. Nothing afterward. Some kids do not go to college, its not for everyone. Same for the military.
To force kids to have engagement with either (especially military) just to receive something they already earned is criminal. Especially taking into account that not having a diploma will effectively hinder their gross income potential(may affect their families), they would have to remain in school after completing all courses, they would be forced to engage in something they may not even want to do.
All of this may even push them back to the communities that they were tryna get away from.
Im not viewing this personally at all. 1.Earning a high school diploma automatically places a person in the position for some type of higher education or employment. You can even be employed at certain places before getting a diploma. This is not saying you have to start a career or go to an Ivy League school. 2.It's just asking for proof that the student is at least trying to better themself. Military or college, gap, a job SOMETHING
and for college they just want an acceptance letter you don't even have to go. 3. No one is being forced into any certain place they don't want to be except staying home doing nothing
and life is not always about what everyone "wants" this is teaching these kids that very important lesson. When you're an adult no has to let you just wait until you're "ready". Verizon doesn't "give me a break" because I graduated before they ask for their money for the phone bill
4.why should these kids be allowed to not do anything because they got a diploma which is really nothing in today's work force?
Agreed so why place another obstacle to attain one?
College and the military are the only ways to better yourself? Aren't there people, hell even celebrities who have done immensely well for themselves and their communities without either?
Who decides what lessons are important? The kids? The parents? The government? I don't think having a whole curriculum around geometry, PE, physics, or trig have been helpful in my life or my friends.
That's the assumption I don't agree with. We're conditioned to feel like college and the military are our ONLY options. Considering how people have been graduating with degrees for almost a decade and still not finding jobs while being buried in debt, considering how there are veterans who come back from war homeless without any assistance, and considering how the government has been instrumental in harming these kids, the community, and their education for decades now this is just another policy that asks folks to jump through hoops.
I guarantee yall that these kids who are seniors who do want to strive to make something of themselves (I'd argue that they probably already have) have the drive to do it on their own. REQUIRING them to prove that to you, the institution, and the government that doesn't really give a shit about them is asinine imo.
I see what you're saying I'm missing how this is an obstacle
if you're accepted to college already, or have a job already or doing something with yourself you should have no worries.
The only ppl who have an obstacle are those who just want to graduate and then "take a break" i.e. Sit at home doing nothing claiming you're deciding what you want to do. It doesn't say that the option has to be college or the military, just do SOMETHING. an internship, a trade school
do something to be productive
It's a PUSH instead of an obstacle for those who procrastinate and wait to get prepared for the future.
guess I'll just leave you with that we disagree
Quote from: MelMel on July 06, 2017, 03:15:38 PM
Quote from: Kurama on July 06, 2017, 03:07:15 PM
Quote from: AYR on July 06, 2017, 02:57:22 PM
Quote from: Kurama on July 06, 2017, 02:28:06 PM
Quote from: AYR on July 06, 2017, 12:42:46 PM
Quote from: Kurama on July 06, 2017, 12:37:34 PM
Quote from: KhoiZan on July 06, 2017, 12:29:21 PM
Gentrification is not a unique issue for Chicago by a long shot. Nor is poor school funding in Black neighborhoods.
I could pull up dozens of articles reflecting the same issues in other inner city neighborhoods around the country.
What I'm addressing is the uniquely higher need for employment there.
And how that makes this new rule somewhat logical.
Hope that makes sense.
Gentrification isn't the topic its a sidebar. Yes, poor funding is something that happens in our communities but like pretty much everything in life, the degree to which it extends or impacts vary.
Well you have your own definition of what is logical. I personally don't see how placing yet another barrier for some of these kids barely making it to their senior year, who are having to survive hiking to some of these "better" neighborhoods, and who come from areas without education, jobs, or overall support is helpful. Not even taking to account familial and cultural barriers.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinions I guess.
how is this a "barrier" for anyone? It's about the diploma
if a kid is eligible to get a diploma they're automatically eligible for the things that the program is forcing them to get (a college acceptance, job, military enrollment, etc.)
I really think you're coming from a personal place rather than looking at context and different lived experiences.
A kid is eligible for a diploma based on their performance in school. Nothing afterward. Some kids do not go to college, its not for everyone. Same for the military.
To force kids to have engagement with either (especially military) just to receive something they already earned is criminal. Especially taking into account that not having a diploma will effectively hinder their gross income potential(may affect their families), they would have to remain in school after completing all courses, they would be forced to engage in something they may not even want to do.
All of this may even push them back to the communities that they were tryna get away from.
Im not viewing this personally at all. 1.Earning a high school diploma automatically places a person in the position for some type of higher education or employment. You can even be employed at certain places before getting a diploma. This is not saying you have to start a career or go to an Ivy League school. 2.It's just asking for proof that the student is at least trying to better themself. Military or college, gap, a job SOMETHING
and for college they just want an acceptance letter you don't even have to go. 3. No one is being forced into any certain place they don't want to be except staying home doing nothing
and life is not always about what everyone "wants" this is teaching these kids that very important lesson. When you're an adult no has to let you just wait until you're "ready". Verizon doesn't "give me a break" because I graduated before they ask for their money for the phone bill
4.why should these kids be allowed to not do anything because they got a diploma which is really nothing in today's work force?
Agreed so why place another obstacle to attain one?
College and the military are the only ways to better yourself? Aren't there people, hell even celebrities who have done immensely well for themselves and their communities without either?
Who decides what lessons are important? The kids? The parents? The government? I don't think having a whole curriculum around geometry, PE, physics, or trig have been helpful in my life or my friends.
That's the assumption I don't agree with. We're conditioned to feel like college and the military are our ONLY options. Considering how people have been graduating with degrees for almost a decade and still not finding jobs while being buried in debt, considering how there are veterans who come back from war homeless without any assistance, and considering how the government has been instrumental in harming these kids, the community, and their education for decades now this is just another policy that asks folks to jump through hoops.
I guarantee yall that these kids who are seniors who do want to strive to make something of themselves (I'd argue that they probably already have) have the drive to do it on their own. REQUIRING them to prove that to you, the institution, and the government that doesn't really give a shit about them is asinine imo.
you are just... :stressed: :stressed: :stressed:
Im still gonna kick your ass :stressed:
Quote from: ORORO MUNROE-UDAKU on July 06, 2017, 03:35:20 PM
Quote from: Kurama on July 06, 2017, 02:43:23 PM
K.
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Juju on 'em curls
Juju on 'em curls
Juju on 'em
Juju on 'em
Juju on 'em curls
LMAO!!!!
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fnfjfj
ur terrible Bent :kii:
Quote from: Kurama on July 06, 2017, 04:08:57 PM
Quote from: MelMel on July 06, 2017, 03:15:38 PM
Quote from: Kurama on July 06, 2017, 03:07:15 PM
Quote from: AYR on July 06, 2017, 02:57:22 PM
Quote from: Kurama on July 06, 2017, 02:28:06 PM
Quote from: AYR on July 06, 2017, 12:42:46 PM
Quote from: Kurama on July 06, 2017, 12:37:34 PM
Quote from: KhoiZan on July 06, 2017, 12:29:21 PM
Gentrification is not a unique issue for Chicago by a long shot. Nor is poor school funding in Black neighborhoods.
I could pull up dozens of articles reflecting the same issues in other inner city neighborhoods around the country.
What I'm addressing is the uniquely higher need for employment there.
And how that makes this new rule somewhat logical.
Hope that makes sense.
Gentrification isn't the topic its a sidebar. Yes, poor funding is something that happens in our communities but like pretty much everything in life, the degree to which it extends or impacts vary.
Well you have your own definition of what is logical. I personally don't see how placing yet another barrier for some of these kids barely making it to their senior year, who are having to survive hiking to some of these "better" neighborhoods, and who come from areas without education, jobs, or overall support is helpful. Not even taking to account familial and cultural barriers.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinions I guess.
how is this a "barrier" for anyone? It's about the diploma
if a kid is eligible to get a diploma they're automatically eligible for the things that the program is forcing them to get (a college acceptance, job, military enrollment, etc.)
I really think you're coming from a personal place rather than looking at context and different lived experiences.
A kid is eligible for a diploma based on their performance in school. Nothing afterward. Some kids do not go to college, its not for everyone. Same for the military.
To force kids to have engagement with either (especially military) just to receive something they already earned is criminal. Especially taking into account that not having a diploma will effectively hinder their gross income potential(may affect their families), they would have to remain in school after completing all courses, they would be forced to engage in something they may not even want to do.
All of this may even push them back to the communities that they were tryna get away from.
Im not viewing this personally at all. 1.Earning a high school diploma automatically places a person in the position for some type of higher education or employment. You can even be employed at certain places before getting a diploma. This is not saying you have to start a career or go to an Ivy League school. 2.It's just asking for proof that the student is at least trying to better themself. Military or college, gap, a job SOMETHING
and for college they just want an acceptance letter you don't even have to go. 3. No one is being forced into any certain place they don't want to be except staying home doing nothing
and life is not always about what everyone "wants" this is teaching these kids that very important lesson. When you're an adult no has to let you just wait until you're "ready". Verizon doesn't "give me a break" because I graduated before they ask for their money for the phone bill
4.why should these kids be allowed to not do anything because they got a diploma which is really nothing in today's work force?
Agreed so why place another obstacle to attain one?
College and the military are the only ways to better yourself? Aren't there people, hell even celebrities who have done immensely well for themselves and their communities without either?
Who decides what lessons are important? The kids? The parents? The government? I don't think having a whole curriculum around geometry, PE, physics, or trig have been helpful in my life or my friends.
That's the assumption I don't agree with. We're conditioned to feel like college and the military are our ONLY options. Considering how people have been graduating with degrees for almost a decade and still not finding jobs while being buried in debt, considering how there are veterans who come back from war homeless without any assistance, and considering how the government has been instrumental in harming these kids, the community, and their education for decades now this is just another policy that asks folks to jump through hoops.
I guarantee yall that these kids who are seniors who do want to strive to make something of themselves (I'd argue that they probably already have) have the drive to do it on their own. REQUIRING them to prove that to you, the institution, and the government that doesn't really give a shit about them is asinine imo.
you are just... :stressed: :stressed: :stressed:
Im still gonna kick your ass :stressed:
:guys: :guys: :guys:
Quote from: TheNextLew on July 06, 2017, 03:52:19 PM
Quote from: AYR on July 06, 2017, 03:00:54 PM
Quote from: TheNextLew on July 06, 2017, 02:43:58 PM
Quote from: AYR on July 06, 2017, 02:22:33 PM
Quote from: TheNextLew on July 06, 2017, 02:13:41 PM
Quote from: AYR on July 06, 2017, 01:30:00 PM
Quote from: TheNextLew on July 06, 2017, 12:58:33 PM
Quote from: AYR on July 06, 2017, 10:20:48 AM
I like this
did everyone read the actual article?
It says you have to have college acceptance, a job or military enlisted
if you have the grades to get your diploma I don't see how none of these options would be possible Black or not. and tbh if you wanna beat this all you have to do is get accepted to a junior/community college real quick until graduation
don't even have to really attend
so dumb
how bout you shut the fuck up
no one dictates what you do when you graduate cause that has nothing to do with high school if you earned your diploma you earned it like...
lol @ grades do you know how many niggas are d and c students?
and coming up with ways to "beat" the system is dumb cause the system is wrong to propose this from jump so having ppul beat it defeats the original purpose and is equally just as dumb
what are you arguing? C students can get diplomas and jobs/go to college :dead: boy go eat
Im arguing its none of your fucking business what i do when i graduate
if you're a resident in my city where I'm the mayor it is my business
No its not
are your records not kept at city hall in your town?
Not school records thats kept by the respective school districts and schools
city hall keeps vital statistic information and marriage licenses business and tax information ect
and a public official such as a mayor is not entitled to private information unless he gets a court order or subpoena to look into them
and school records are covered by the ferpa laws
you are not making sense
no YOU are not making sense
what does school records have to do with what you do AFTER you graduate?
and just like I thought the business/tax info is right in the same building with the Mayor so a quick court order/ subpoena and he knows where you work or what you did after high school
thnx bye
Quote from: AYR on July 06, 2017, 02:57:22 PM
Quote from: Kurama on July 06, 2017, 02:28:06 PM
Quote from: AYR on July 06, 2017, 12:42:46 PM
Quote from: Kurama on July 06, 2017, 12:37:34 PM
Quote from: KhoiZan on July 06, 2017, 12:29:21 PM
Gentrification is not a unique issue for Chicago by a long shot. Nor is poor school funding in Black neighborhoods.
I could pull up dozens of articles reflecting the same issues in other inner city neighborhoods around the country.
What I'm addressing is the uniquely higher need for employment there.
And how that makes this new rule somewhat logical.
Hope that makes sense.
Gentrification isn't the topic its a sidebar. Yes, poor funding is something that happens in our communities but like pretty much everything in life, the degree to which it extends or impacts vary.
Well you have your own definition of what is logical. I personally don't see how placing yet another barrier for some of these kids barely making it to their senior year, who are having to survive hiking to some of these "better" neighborhoods, and who come from areas without education, jobs, or overall support is helpful. Not even taking to account familial and cultural barriers.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinions I guess.
how is this a "barrier" for anyone? It's about the diploma
if a kid is eligible to get a diploma they're automatically eligible for the things that the program is forcing them to get (a college acceptance, job, military enrollment, etc.)
I really think you're coming from a personal place rather than looking at context and different lived experiences.
A kid is eligible for a diploma based on their performance in school. Nothing afterward. Some kids do not go to college, its not for everyone. Same for the military.
To force kids to have engagement with either (especially military) just to receive something they already earned is criminal. Especially taking into account that not having a diploma will effectively hinder their gross income potential(may affect their families), they would have to remain in school after completing all courses, they would be forced to engage in something they may not even want to do.
All of this may even push them back to the communities that they were tryna get away from.
Im not viewing this personally at all. Earning a high school diploma automatically places a person in the position for some type of higher education or employment. You can even be employed at certain places before getting a diploma. This is not saying you have to start a career or go to an Ivy League school. It's just asking for proof that the student is at least trying to better themself. Military or college, gap, a job SOMETHING
and for college they just want an acceptance letter you don't even have to go. No one is being forced into any certain place they don't want to be except staying home doing nothing
and life is not always about what everyone "wants" this is teaching these kids that very important lesson. When you're an adult no has to let you just wait until you're "ready". Verizon doesn't "give me a break" because I graduated before they ask for their money for the phone bill
why should these kids be allowed to not do anything because they got a diploma which is really nothing in today's work force?
Cool, we can agree to disagree. I respect that Ray, thanks for the discussion.
:sistas:
Quote from: Kurama on July 06, 2017, 04:11:09 PM
Quote from: AYR on July 06, 2017, 02:57:22 PM
Quote from: Kurama on July 06, 2017, 02:28:06 PM
Quote from: AYR on July 06, 2017, 12:42:46 PM
Quote from: Kurama on July 06, 2017, 12:37:34 PM
Quote from: KhoiZan on July 06, 2017, 12:29:21 PM
Gentrification is not a unique issue for Chicago by a long shot. Nor is poor school funding in Black neighborhoods.
I could pull up dozens of articles reflecting the same issues in other inner city neighborhoods around the country.
What I'm addressing is the uniquely higher need for employment there.
And how that makes this new rule somewhat logical.
Hope that makes sense.
Gentrification isn't the topic its a sidebar. Yes, poor funding is something that happens in our communities but like pretty much everything in life, the degree to which it extends or impacts vary.
Well you have your own definition of what is logical. I personally don't see how placing yet another barrier for some of these kids barely making it to their senior year, who are having to survive hiking to some of these "better" neighborhoods, and who come from areas without education, jobs, or overall support is helpful. Not even taking to account familial and cultural barriers.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinions I guess.
how is this a "barrier" for anyone? It's about the diploma
if a kid is eligible to get a diploma they're automatically eligible for the things that the program is forcing them to get (a college acceptance, job, military enrollment, etc.)
I really think you're coming from a personal place rather than looking at context and different lived experiences.
A kid is eligible for a diploma based on their performance in school. Nothing afterward. Some kids do not go to college, its not for everyone. Same for the military.
To force kids to have engagement with either (especially military) just to receive something they already earned is criminal. Especially taking into account that not having a diploma will effectively hinder their gross income potential(may affect their families), they would have to remain in school after completing all courses, they would be forced to engage in something they may not even want to do.
All of this may even push them back to the communities that they were tryna get away from.
Im not viewing this personally at all. Earning a high school diploma automatically places a person in the position for some type of higher education or employment. You can even be employed at certain places before getting a diploma. This is not saying you have to start a career or go to an Ivy League school. It's just asking for proof that the student is at least trying to better themself. Military or college, gap, a job SOMETHING
and for college they just want an acceptance letter you don't even have to go. No one is being forced into any certain place they don't want to be except staying home doing nothing
and life is not always about what everyone "wants" this is teaching these kids that very important lesson. When you're an adult no has to let you just wait until you're "ready". Verizon doesn't "give me a break" because I graduated before they ask for their money for the phone bill
why should these kids be allowed to not do anything because they got a diploma which is really nothing in today's work force?
Cool, we can agree to disagree. I respect that Ray, thanks for the discussion.
:sistas:
Are you sure this met the "discussion" test :guys:?
Quote from: AYR on July 06, 2017, 04:09:50 PM
Quote from: TheNextLew on July 06, 2017, 03:52:19 PM
Quote from: AYR on July 06, 2017, 03:00:54 PM
Quote from: TheNextLew on July 06, 2017, 02:43:58 PM
Quote from: AYR on July 06, 2017, 02:22:33 PM
Quote from: TheNextLew on July 06, 2017, 02:13:41 PM
Quote from: AYR on July 06, 2017, 01:30:00 PM
Quote from: TheNextLew on July 06, 2017, 12:58:33 PM
Quote from: AYR on July 06, 2017, 10:20:48 AM
I like this
did everyone read the actual article?
It says you have to have college acceptance, a job or military enlisted
if you have the grades to get your diploma I don't see how none of these options would be possible Black or not. and tbh if you wanna beat this all you have to do is get accepted to a junior/community college real quick until graduation
don't even have to really attend
so dumb
how bout you shut the fuck up
no one dictates what you do when you graduate cause that has nothing to do with high school if you earned your diploma you earned it like...
lol @ grades do you know how many niggas are d and c students?
and coming up with ways to "beat" the system is dumb cause the system is wrong to propose this from jump so having ppul beat it defeats the original purpose and is equally just as dumb
what are you arguing? C students can get diplomas and jobs/go to college :dead: boy go eat
Im arguing its none of your fucking business what i do when i graduate
if you're a resident in my city where I'm the mayor it is my business
No its not
are your records not kept at city hall in your town?
Not school records thats kept by the respective school districts and schools
city hall keeps vital statistic information and marriage licenses business and tax information ect
and a public official such as a mayor is not entitled to private information unless he gets a court order or subpoena to look into them
and school records are covered by the ferpa laws
you are not making sense
no YOU are not making sense
what does school records have to do with what you do AFTER you graduate?
and just like I thought the business/tax info is right in the same building with the Mayor so a quick court order/ subpoena and he knows where you work or what you did after high school
thnx bye
U said they have access to records but not school records
meaning the mayors
office and school records should not intersect
and they would if you are preventing a valid graduation(school issue) because of a municipal issue (jobs)
its fine if the mayor inquires about that info but why would he?
Quote from: Alotta Vagyna on July 06, 2017, 04:17:09 PM
Quote from: Kurama on July 06, 2017, 04:11:09 PM
Quote from: AYR on July 06, 2017, 02:57:22 PM
Quote from: Kurama on July 06, 2017, 02:28:06 PM
Quote from: AYR on July 06, 2017, 12:42:46 PM
Quote from: Kurama on July 06, 2017, 12:37:34 PM
Quote from: KhoiZan on July 06, 2017, 12:29:21 PM
Gentrification is not a unique issue for Chicago by a long shot. Nor is poor school funding in Black neighborhoods.
I could pull up dozens of articles reflecting the same issues in other inner city neighborhoods around the country.
What I'm addressing is the uniquely higher need for employment there.
And how that makes this new rule somewhat logical.
Hope that makes sense.
Gentrification isn't the topic its a sidebar. Yes, poor funding is something that happens in our communities but like pretty much everything in life, the degree to which it extends or impacts vary.
Well you have your own definition of what is logical. I personally don't see how placing yet another barrier for some of these kids barely making it to their senior year, who are having to survive hiking to some of these "better" neighborhoods, and who come from areas without education, jobs, or overall support is helpful. Not even taking to account familial and cultural barriers.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinions I guess.
how is this a "barrier" for anyone? It's about the diploma
if a kid is eligible to get a diploma they're automatically eligible for the things that the program is forcing them to get (a college acceptance, job, military enrollment, etc.)
I really think you're coming from a personal place rather than looking at context and different lived experiences.
A kid is eligible for a diploma based on their performance in school. Nothing afterward. Some kids do not go to college, its not for everyone. Same for the military.
To force kids to have engagement with either (especially military) just to receive something they already earned is criminal. Especially taking into account that not having a diploma will effectively hinder their gross income potential(may affect their families), they would have to remain in school after completing all courses, they would be forced to engage in something they may not even want to do.
All of this may even push them back to the communities that they were tryna get away from.
Im not viewing this personally at all. Earning a high school diploma automatically places a person in the position for some type of higher education or employment. You can even be employed at certain places before getting a diploma. This is not saying you have to start a career or go to an Ivy League school. It's just asking for proof that the student is at least trying to better themself. Military or college, gap, a job SOMETHING
and for college they just want an acceptance letter you don't even have to go. No one is being forced into any certain place they don't want to be except staying home doing nothing
and life is not always about what everyone "wants" this is teaching these kids that very important lesson. When you're an adult no has to let you just wait until you're "ready". Verizon doesn't "give me a break" because I graduated before they ask for their money for the phone bill
why should these kids be allowed to not do anything because they got a diploma which is really nothing in today's work force?
Cool, we can agree to disagree. I respect that Ray, thanks for the discussion.
:sistas:
Are you sure this met the "discussion" test :guys:?
:omgwatshappening:
loved what u posted earlier btw bavi
Quote from: Kurama on July 06, 2017, 02:23:59 PM
Quote from: KhoiZan on July 06, 2017, 01:24:52 PM
And that's why I put "conversation" in quotations. At no point were we really conversing, as I honestly didn't pay much attention to anything you posted.
Understandable, another interesting point though. Especially considering how you seem to proclaim how you enjoy a certain type of interaction that allows folks to have different perspectives and remain adult, respectful, and non-shady.
Maybe if you actually paid attention more you wouldn't become so disgruntled or "unbothered" when your perspective is well... stomped out- for a lack of better phrase lolz.
I would love to see this facade you're trying to keep up actually become a reality love.
Im sorry but :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii:
Only when our perceptions are aligned will i engage u, otherwise we don't need to talk :dead:
Quote from: Vonc2002 on July 06, 2017, 04:45:40 PM
Only when our perceptions are aligned will i engage u, otherwise we don't need to talk :dead:
fuck u
Quote from: Kurama on July 06, 2017, 02:28:06 PM
Quote from: AYR on July 06, 2017, 12:42:46 PM
Quote from: Kurama on July 06, 2017, 12:37:34 PM
Quote from: KhoiZan on July 06, 2017, 12:29:21 PM
Gentrification is not a unique issue for Chicago by a long shot. Nor is poor school funding in Black neighborhoods.
I could pull up dozens of articles reflecting the same issues in other inner city neighborhoods around the country.
What I'm addressing is the uniquely higher need for employment there.
And how that makes this new rule somewhat logical.
Hope that makes sense.
Gentrification isn't the topic its a sidebar. Yes, poor funding is something that happens in our communities but like pretty much everything in life, the degree to which it extends or impacts vary.
Well you have your own definition of what is logical. I personally don't see how placing yet another barrier for some of these kids barely making it to their senior year, who are having to survive hiking to some of these "better" neighborhoods, and who come from areas without education, jobs, or overall support is helpful. Not even taking to account familial and cultural barriers.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinions I guess.
how is this a "barrier" for anyone? It's about the diploma
if a kid is eligible to get a diploma they're automatically eligible for the things that the program is forcing them to get (a college acceptance, job, military enrollment, etc.)
I really think you're coming from a personal place rather than looking at context and different lived experiences.
A kid is eligible for a diploma based on their performance in school. Nothing afterward. Some kids do not go to college, its not for everyone. Same for the military.
To force kids to have engagement with either (especially military) just to receive something they already earned is criminal. Especially taking into account that not having a diploma will effectively hinder their gross income potential(may affect their families), they would have to remain in school after completing all courses, they would be forced to engage in something they may not even want to do.
All of this may even push them back to the communities that they were tryna get away from.
This is what i don't get! Like ur opting out of giving kids diplomas and how exactly will this be beneficial? So now i have no diploma and am forced to do things that i may not have done otherwise. Like, HOW is this positive or beneficial in any way? We're gonna cut funding and we're gonna fire the people that were supposed to guide you, but u better fckn figure it out and FAST because otherwise all these yrs u spent in school will ALSO be for naught. Like, it's dumb.
Whew Kur' is in here preaching
Love that boy sometimes
What about getting a GED?
Quote from: Cartier on July 06, 2017, 04:52:55 PM
Whew Kur' is in here preaching
Love that boy sometimes
thats my husband :wub:
Close this.
Quote from: Vonc2002 on July 06, 2017, 04:45:40 PM
Only when our perceptions are aligned will i engage u, otherwise we don't need to talk :dead:
d
you and I know what it is, you didn't need to publicize this
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Quote from: Cartier on July 06, 2017, 04:52:55 PM
Whew Kur' is in here preaching
Love that boy sometimes
Always
Quote from: Cartier on July 06, 2017, 04:52:55 PM
Whew Kur' is in here preaching
Love that boy sometimes
:bvy:
Quote from: KhoiZan on July 06, 2017, 02:37:23 PM
Quote from: Kurama on July 06, 2017, 02:23:59 PM
Quote from: KhoiZan on July 06, 2017, 01:24:52 PM
And that's why I put "conversation" in quotations. At no point were we really conversing, as I honestly didn't pay much attention to anything you posted.
Understandable, another interesting point though. Especially considering how you seem to proclaim how you enjoy a certain type of interaction that allows folks to have different perspectives and remain adult, respectful, and non-shady.
Maybe if you actually paid attention more you wouldn't become so disgruntled or "unbothered" when your perspective is well... stomped out- for a lack of better phrase lolz.
I would love to see this facade you're trying to keep up actually become a reality love.
That's nice, Bre.
But if repeating and standing by my stance in this thread was "shady" to you during our "conversation", that's something you'd have to work out on your end.
Im sorry but this crock of SHIT! :plzstop:
Uve been in here giving ur perspective and he posted some things to give u some additional info. If anything, have two different perspectives and just discuss them rationally because that's what u claim to be about. I don't think anyone here expects anyone to abandon their views. Somehow u found a way to take it personally and say I didn't read or pay attention to anything u posted. Ive never seen someone get so HURT when their views are even slightly challenged. Ur ridiculous and don't even realize the way u come off :dead:
didnt expect mess in a thread like this tbh.
But im here
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Someone help me beat vonc
dxxaaasss
goddamn it here we go :kii:
Quote from: TheNextLew on July 06, 2017, 04:58:50 PM
Quote from: AYR on July 06, 2017, 04:56:38 PM
What about getting a GED?
what about it?
whats stopping these ppl from getting one if they decided to not
Follow this program?
Quote from: Baph al Mana. on July 06, 2017, 05:01:14 PM
didnt expect mess in a thread like this tbh.
But im here
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CCCVCCCXCCV
Hey boo
Kesha shits on Beyonce btw lolz
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Quote from: Vonc2002 on July 06, 2017, 04:59:26 PM
Quote from: KhoiZan on July 06, 2017, 02:37:23 PM
Quote from: Kurama on July 06, 2017, 02:23:59 PM
Quote from: KhoiZan on July 06, 2017, 01:24:52 PM
And that's why I put "conversation" in quotations. At no point were we really conversing, as I honestly didn't pay much attention to anything you posted.
Understandable, another interesting point though. Especially considering how you seem to proclaim how you enjoy a certain type of interaction that allows folks to have different perspectives and remain adult, respectful, and non-shady.
Maybe if you actually paid attention more you wouldn't become so disgruntled or "unbothered" when your perspective is well... stomped out- for a lack of better phrase lolz.
I would love to see this facade you're trying to keep up actually become a reality love.
That's nice, Bre.
But if repeating and standing by my stance in this thread was "shady" to you during our "conversation", that's something you'd have to work out on your end.
Im sorry but this crock of SHIT! :plzstop:
Uve been in here giving ur perspective and he posted some things to give u some additional info. If anything, have two different perspectives and just discuss them rationally because that's what u claim to be about. I don't think anyone here expects anyone to abandon their views. Somehow u found a way to take it personally and say I didn't read or pay attention to anything u posted. Ive never seen someone get so HURT when their views are even slightly challenged. Ur ridiculous and don't even realize the way u come off :dead:
Says the one who always spews his hatred as a real perspective :kii: :kii: :kii:
Quote from: LORD GRAND SUPREME PRIME CELESTIAL MARSHALL on July 06, 2017, 05:01:26 PM
Someone help me beat vonc
right here with you sis
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Quote from: LORD GRAND SUPREME PRIME CELESTIAL MARSHALL on July 06, 2017, 05:02:14 PM
Quote from: Baph al Mana. on July 06, 2017, 05:01:14 PM
didnt expect mess in a thread like this tbh.
But im here
(http://i.imgur.com/mm0Bf5B.gif)
CCCVCCCXCCV
Hey boo
Kesha shits on Beyonce btw lolz
(http://i.imgur.com/mm0Bf5B.gif)
true lolz
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Quote from: KhoiZan on July 06, 2017, 05:00:41 PM
Quote from: KhoiZan on July 06, 2017, 04:24:13 PM
lol...
It's easier to keep the peace when you just don't bother communicating/starting conversations with people you don't really have a good history of having great discussions with. I wish everyone felt that way. We'd avoid quite a bit.
Yea, we got it the first time. Either agree with what im saying or we can't have a good discussion. Please grow up :plzstop:
I hate how passive aggressive some of you are then when you get an audience ready to attack and pounce. Shit is late.
Quote from: Vonc2002 on July 06, 2017, 05:08:41 PM
Quote from: KhoiZan on July 06, 2017, 05:00:41 PM
Quote from: KhoiZan on July 06, 2017, 04:24:13 PM
lol...
It's easier to keep the peace when you just don't bother communicating/starting conversations with people you don't really have a good history of having great discussions with. I wish everyone felt that way. We'd avoid quite a bit.
Yea, we got it the first time. Either agree with what im saying or we can't have a good discussion. Please grow up :plzstop:
STOP running up behind him
STOP hiting his quote button
STOP seeking his attention in everythread(http://pic100.picturetrail.com/VOL1164/13386359/23854331/397795650.jpg)
Quote from: Kordei. on July 06, 2017, 05:11:26 PM
I hate how passive aggressive some of you are then when you get an audience ready to attack and pounce. Shit is late.
:guys:
Wtf
who r u talking about luv
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Quote from: LORD GRAND SUPREME PRIME CELESTIAL MARSHALL on July 06, 2017, 05:14:39 PM
Quote from: Kordei. on July 06, 2017, 05:11:26 PM
I hate how passive aggressive some of you are then when you get an audience ready to attack and pounce. Shit is late.
:guys:
Wtf
who r u talking about luv
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Ur so new level messy
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Quote from: KhoiZan on July 06, 2017, 05:09:27 PM
Last time Bre and I "conversed", it didn't end very well. He seems to know this pattern of mine - being shady, evasive, and everything else I've been accused of - like the back of his hand, so I'm confused as to why he'd quote me yet again for more dialogue.
I didn't care to initiate conversation with him. Maybe if the feeling was mutual this could have been avoided.
That's the last I'll say.
Fuck it,
Historically you've bumped heads with pretty much everyone. What typically happens afterward is you and whomever come up with these pseudo apologies and formalities.
You all then begin speaking, you attempt to be cordial and nice. Now, for some members. Myself, vonc, Bent, and a few others you do this fake kindness act after the mess. Acting as if you're not still bothered by previous altercations or you let them go completely but it's pretty obvious that you wait until the next time you feel some type of way to rehash or respond in a personal way. That happened in this very thread and you spoke to it.
I personally have always been reluctant to communicate with you because I've seen how you operate, especially after you tried me on several occasions. Whenever I have issues or don't use someone I don't engage or address them at all. I don't do the passive mess either I just act like they dont exist. There have been people here who I actually like (or did at one point) who I've had issues with behind the scenes and that never played out in a forum we just didnt interact.
YOU began to do these little formalities and acts of being cordial, alphabets after posts, fake affirmations and all that. Please don't make it seem like folks are TRYING to engage with you.
It's okay not you use someone. Say you dont like them and move on,hell you use to sing the ignore features praises-use it again. However, please dont sit up here and act like all this is unwarranted and its everyone elses fault for convos going left. You're holding on to that history and like Vonc said whenever someone who you've clashed with in the past even disagrees you clam the hell up.
Quote from: LORD GRAND SUPREME PRIME CELESTIAL MARSHALL on July 06, 2017, 05:14:39 PM
Quote from: Kordei. on July 06, 2017, 05:11:26 PM
I hate how passive aggressive some of you are then when you get an audience ready to attack and pounce. Shit is late.
:guys:
Wtf
who r u talking about luv
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:guys:
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:receipts:
Like are you serious? You started speaking to me after the mess. You started quoting me. Don't try to misconstrue what happened because you have issues when folks disagree with you. That's your shit not mine. :dead:
Quote from: G! on July 06, 2017, 05:15:13 PM
Quote from: LORD GRAND SUPREME PRIME CELESTIAL MARSHALL on July 06, 2017, 05:14:39 PM
Quote from: Kordei. on July 06, 2017, 05:11:26 PM
I hate how passive aggressive some of you are then when you get an audience ready to attack and pounce. Shit is late.
:guys:
Wtf
who r u talking about luv
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:guys:
VVBBBBVVNNMMM
Ur so new level messy
:guys:
those "HOW TO MESS" classes you and Talisa hosted paid off well
:receipts:
No but seriously if you don't use no need to be around the Bush and throw passive shade get tf right to it.
All I'm saying.
Quote from: ANIMMAI on July 06, 2017, 05:15:35 PM
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I am HOLLERING :kii:
Quote from: LORD GRAND SUPREME PRIME CELESTIAL MARSHALL on July 06, 2017, 05:14:39 PM
Quote from: Kordei. on July 06, 2017, 05:11:26 PM
I hate how passive aggressive some of you are then when you get an audience ready to attack and pounce. Shit is late.
:guys:
Wtf
who r u talking about luv
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:guys:
I really can't stand u btw :dead:
Quote from: Kordei. on July 06, 2017, 05:17:35 PM
No but seriously if you don't use no need to be around the Bush and throw passive shade get tf right to it.
All I'm saying.
!!!!
Or just dont interact. EVER.
Then get upset when your facade collapses at the slightest touch. How fickle.
Quote from: ANIMMAI on July 06, 2017, 05:15:35 PM
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Quote from: KhoiZan on July 06, 2017, 05:09:27 PM
Last time Bre and I "conversed", it didn't end very well. He seems to know this pattern of mine - being shady, evasive, and everything else I've been accused of - like the back of his hand, so I'm confused as to why he'd quote me yet again for more dialogue.
I didn't care to initiate conversation with him. Maybe if the feeling was mutual this could have been avoided.
That's the last I'll say.
Fuck it,
Historically you've bumped heads with pretty much everyone. What typically happens afterward is you and whomever come up with these pseudo apologies and formalities.
You all then begin speaking, you attempt to be cordial and nice. Now, for some members. Myself, vonc, Bent, and a few others you do this fake kindness act after the mess. Acting as if you're not still bothered by previous altercations or you let them go completely but it's pretty obvious that you wait until the next time you feel some type of way to rehash or respond in a personal way. That happened in this very thread and you spoke to it.
I personally have always been reluctant to communicate with you because I've seen how you operate, especially after you tried me on several occasions. Whenever I have issues or don't use someone I don't engage or address them at all. I don't do the passive mess either I just act like they dont exist. There have been people here who I actually like (or did at one point) who I've had issues with behind the scenes and that never played out in a forum we just didnt interact.
YOU began to do these little formalities and acts of being cordial, alphabets after posts, fake affirmations and all that. Please don't make it seem like folks are TRYING to engage with you.
It's okay not you use someone. Say you dont like them and move on,hell you use to sing the ignore features praises-use it again. However, please dont sit up here and act like all this is unwarranted and its everyone elses fault for convos going left. You're holding on to that history and like Vonc said whenever someone who you've clashed with in the past even disagrees you clam the hell up.
it appears y'all are amplifying the recipe in here
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Quote from: LORD GRAND SUPREME PRIME CELESTIAL MARSHALL on July 06, 2017, 05:14:39 PM
Quote from: Kordei. on July 06, 2017, 05:11:26 PM
I hate how passive aggressive some of you are then when you get an audience ready to attack and pounce. Shit is late.
:guys:
Wtf
who r u talking about luv
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Quote from: LORD GRAND SUPREME PRIME CELESTIAL MARSHALL on July 06, 2017, 05:17:28 PM
Quote from: G! on July 06, 2017, 05:15:13 PM
Quote from: LORD GRAND SUPREME PRIME CELESTIAL MARSHALL on July 06, 2017, 05:14:39 PM
Quote from: Kordei. on July 06, 2017, 05:11:26 PM
I hate how passive aggressive some of you are then when you get an audience ready to attack and pounce. Shit is late.
:guys:
Wtf
who r u talking about luv
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:guys:
VVBBBBVVNNMMM
Ur so new level messy
:guys:
those "HOW TO MESS" classes you and Talisa hosted paid off well
:receipts:
:ATLcameo:
Great work babe
Kurama and I are a great example of how not to use another member (for the most part). I hate that he had good things to say in here because they prompted a quote mess. When someone is right u just gotta give it to them LOLZ!
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Dickhead.
Ya phone broken?
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I'm fucking crying :kii: :plzstop:
And why is this mess 17 pages? :kii:
Vonc was dragged
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Quote from: G! on July 06, 2017, 05:19:26 PM
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I'm fucking crying :kii: :plzstop:
these gloves are what has me ordering a penis pump :plzstop:
:dead: :dead: :dead: :dead:
Quote from: KhoiZan on July 06, 2017, 05:22:43 PM
Quote from: Kurama on July 06, 2017, 05:16:14 PM
Quote from: KhoiZan on July 06, 2017, 05:09:27 PM
Last time Bre and I "conversed", it didn't end very well. He seems to know this pattern of mine - being shady, evasive, and everything else I've been accused of - like the back of his hand, so I'm confused as to why he'd quote me yet again for more dialogue.
I didn't care to initiate conversation with him. Maybe if the feeling was mutual this could have been avoided.
That's the last I'll say.
Fuck it,
Historically you've bumped heads with pretty much everyone. What typically happens afterward is you and whomever come up with these pseudo apologies and formalities.
You all then begin speaking, you attempt to be cordial and nice. Now, for some members. Myself, vonc, Bent, and a few others you do this fake kindness act after the mess. Acting as if you're not still bothered by previous altercations or you let them go completely but it's pretty obvious that you wait until the next time you feel some type of way to rehash or respond in a personal way. That happened in this very thread and you spoke to it.
I personally have always been reluctant to communicate with you because I've seen how you operate, especially after you tried me on several occasions. Whenever I have issues or don't use someone I don't engage or address them at all. I don't do the passive mess either I just act like they dont exist. There have been people here who I actually like (or did at one point) who I've had issues with behind the scenes and that never played out in a forum we just didnt interact.
YOU began to do these little formalities and acts of being cordial, alphabets after posts, fake affirmations and all that. Please don't make it seem like folks are TRYING to engage with you.
It's okay not you use someone. Say you dont like them and move on,hell you use to sing the ignore features praises-use it again. However, please dont sit up here and act like all this is unwarranted and its everyone elses fault for convos going left. You're holding on to that history and like Vonc said whenever someone who you've clashed with in the past even disagrees you clam the hell up.
I understand.
if this is true can you apologize to me for being a bitch?
this happens all the time, I try to call you out and warn you about your actions, then you get mad at me and start being a bitch.
Same thing happened with the ancestry stuff, tried to tell you it was overkill, you got mad, and then the famous one month lashing occurred. I'm just saying sometimes a person that cares isn't gonna baby you.
You gotta grow up sometimes Afro, you're worse than Ray about being bullheaded when you're wrong. plus you try to give stuck up when you go into defense mode and I totally get that when you've had girls coming for you for years with lots of ammo.
I mean, I've had your number for years and you constantly get mad at me for telling you like it is. And we're cancers, I'm not gonna do that pat on the back shit, we yank, I'm gonna go for those curls, but outta love babes!
Anyways, it was pretty bad in here for you and I hope you're ok. We really need to do lunch next time in NYC. Luv u.
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Boy hush, you're just HURT
stop being such a damn big ass baby
You were getting out of control again, you're wrong, get over it :kii:
Quote from: ORORO MUNROE-UDAKU on July 06, 2017, 06:35:39 PM
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Boy hush, you're just HURT
stop being such a damn big ass baby
You were getting out of control again, you're wrong, get over it :kii:
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Quote from: TheNextLew on July 06, 2017, 05:06:41 PM
Quote from: LORD GRAND SUPREME PRIME CELESTIAL MARSHALL on July 06, 2017, 05:01:26 PM
Someone help me beat vonc
right here with you sis
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You need a cage tbh :omgwatshappening:
Boy HUSH has me yelling! Bent this motherly lash :kii:
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maybe you should spell out who you dont wanna talk to because up until today this is the first time you've implied that I was one of them. This is after you've been initiating interactions with me for months btw. Funny all this comes out when I disagree with your perspective lolz.
Glad you finally owned up to not liking certain members though, I've always hated the fake pleasantries :dead:
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is it?
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Quote from: G! on July 06, 2017, 06:17:00 PM
Quote from: witch on July 06, 2017, 06:02:06 PM
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I'm fucking crying :kii: :plzstop:
these gloves are what has me ordering a penis pump :plzstop:
where did you order it :ohwow:
Quote from: KhoiZan on July 06, 2017, 07:03:40 PM
But I agree that the cycles get boring after a while. That kumbaya/let's apologize thread -- I had to pay it. Because I know how it goes here. Avoidance is key.
fuck that voidance mess
if dese niggas got sutn ta say
pop awwf :indiaarie:
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Why does he make EVERY thread about himself? :dead: So annoying.
:kii: :plzstop:
Iman, in case u didn't know, ur now on the list
List of what? :dead:
Why is this 19 pages
Af has a list of people that he would like to not associate with. Weve discovered it's anyone that doesnt applaud him when he steps on his soapbox.
Quote from: Kurama on July 06, 2017, 06:54:41 PM
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maybe you should spell out who you dont wanna talk to because up until today this is the first time you've implied that I was one of them. This is after you've been initiating interactions with me for months btw. Funny all this comes out when I disagree with your perspective lolz.
Glad you finally owned up to not liking certain members though, I've always hated the fake pleasantries :dead:
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Quote from: Kurama on July 06, 2017, 06:54:41 PM
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maybe you should spell out who you dont wanna talk to because up until today
They already know, and now you do as well.
Afro can you just stop with the suspense trailer and just tell us who's on the list? :dead:
It's giving me anxiety waiting to see if I'm on it or not.
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He really thinks he's all that and literally no one on this forum goes out of their way to interact with his weird ass. :dead: Last time, I checked he was the one who would DM people to fill them in on his ancestry updates and late selfies. "Sis" this, "Lil sis" that. Stop acting like you're 'above it all,' luv. It's getting old now. Especially when you're on here day in and day out trying to kii with everyone on here. It's literally the same cycle every time.
Quote from: ORORO MUNROE-UDAKU on July 06, 2017, 08:24:11 PM
Afro can you just stop with the suspense trailer and just tell us who's on the list? :dead:
It's giving me anxiety waiting to see if I'm on it or not.
Ur a damn FOOL :kii:
Y'all...
:omgwatshappening:
Quote from: witch on July 06, 2017, 08:27:43 PM
sddddd
He really thinks he's all that and literally no one on this forum goes out of their way to interact with his weird ass. :dead: Last time, I checked he was the one who would DM people to fill them in on his ancestry updates and late selfies. "Sis" this, "Lil sis" that. Stop acting like you're 'above it all,' luv. It's getting old now. Especially when you're on here day in and day out trying to kii with everyone on here. It's literally the same cycle every time.
Omfffff
'Man he didn't ACTUALLY say u were on the list :calmdownsis:
U definitely are now tho :dead:
Afro is Afro if yall are aware of how he is, why fume? lol
My 'kumbaya' thread was specifically meant for Cody and that was it, luv. :dead: and my comments are regarding your interactions with Bre, Bent and a few others on here. I personally never cared for you and you know that. But it's late how you start to switch up when people disagree with you and that's what happened in this thread. You do it all the time. Grow up.
I dunno what's going on in here now but this is disgusting
While the intent looks pure and from the outside is sounds sensible.
Because it's true: you should have a plan. You should have direction .
You can take still take six months off after graduation and still be accepted into a community college for the next semester. You can join the military and have a boot camp date of 6 months out etc.
No one is forcing them into life with that method. It's simply putting them in a position where they HAVE to make plans.
HOWEVER; this is Chicago
And to simply lay the smack down on a city that is the American Syria ATM is assanine .
There are SO many other things that have to be done FIRST in that city.
This almost seems like a sneaky way to try and KEEP Black down.
Quote from: Vonc2002 on July 06, 2017, 11:14:34 AM
Quote from: BowDown on July 06, 2017, 11:08:40 AM
If that's the case they need to place more pressure on guidance counselors to actually do their jobs..
And that was a conversation as well. I believe someone said 30% of them have been let go. So there's implementation of shit like this but not even the proper resources to ensure students are getting the help required to have a fckn plan. This is bullshit.
See this is what I'm talking about
I don't recall saying anything like that :uhh: But okay.
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Quote from: Kurama on July 06, 2017, 12:01:22 PM
Quote from: KhoiZan on July 06, 2017, 11:48:27 AM
Take a look at this before you guys continue to question this decision:
https://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20170523/englewood/state-black-unemployment-tied-for-worst-nation-report-says
I already knew this would be the case based on this new rule, but I wanted to double check Google. And sure enough...
You probably should read this
http://www.chicagobusiness.com/article/20170428/BLOGS02/170429849/emanuel-cps-will-complete-full-term-through-june-20
It highlights how the school system here has been fighting with the govenor and state to get their needs met.
Chicago public schools have lost millions of dollars in funding for years. Dozens of schools have closed in the short timespan that Ive been here. Where do you think most of these schools are? They're not in the white neighborhoods?
http://www.usccr.gov/pubs/IL-FoodDeserts-2011.pdf
https://www.chicagoreader.com/chicago/chicago-politics-segregation-african-american-black-white-hispanic-latino-population-census-community/Content?oid=3221712
this highlights food desserts and a overall lack of resources in these same areas. You can search englewood and see that it is one of the most resource lacking environments in the city.
Another Black community btw.
Now, add all of these factors into a nice cocktail. Poverty, no resources, schools are being closed down in non-white communitties, folks become aggressive ( impoverished folks do statistically), gun violence and BAM!
I'd add some context to the way you all are approaching this. Yall ki about gun violence and people being hoodlums often but its a little more multifaceted than posting an article and saying this is what it is....
This is all so sad...
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Quote from: Young on July 06, 2017, 08:38:47 PM
I dunno what's going on in here now but this is disgusting
While the intent looks pure and from the outside is sounds sensible.
Because it's true: you should have a plan. You should have direction .
You can take still take six months off after graduation and still be accepted into a community college for the next semester. You can join the military and have a boot camp date of 6 months out etc.
No one is forcing them into life with that method. It's simply putting them in a position where they HAVE to make plans.
HOWEVER; this is Chicago
And to simply lay the smack down on a city that is the American Syria ATM is assanine .
There are SO many other things that have to be done FIRST in that city.
This almost seems like a sneaky way to try and KEEP Black down.
ITS REWARD AND PUNISHMENT IF YOU DONT DECIDE YOUR NEXT PATH RIGHT AWAY
why withhold someones diploma because of whats gonna happen after they leave?
First off; it's almost illegal sounding :uhh:
If someone WANTS to be a bum after high school so what?
I don't agree but it's their prerogative :uhh:
If they met the credentials to pass HS; GIVE them their fckn diploma
PERIOD.
The Elite if Im on it
:young:
This is also why im such a hardcore fan of Chance. He's up here donating money, meeting with officials, raising awareness, etc. Him>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Not gettin my diploma is uncaused for
Quote from: witch on July 06, 2017, 06:02:06 PM
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I'm fucking crying :kii: :plzstop:
This is MESS dbdbfbfbfbtbtbtbtbtbybyby
Quote from: Vonc2002 on July 06, 2017, 09:07:46 PM
This is also why im such a hardcore fan of Chance. He's up here donating money, meeting with officials, raising awareness, dodging bullets etc. Him>>>>>>>>>>>>>
bless Lew's heart :dead:
Quote from: Vonc2002 on July 06, 2017, 09:07:46 PM
This is also why im such a hardcore fan of Chance. He's up here donating money, meeting with officials, raising awareness, etc. Him>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I just read the article and I think this mess is a farce. :dead: Chicago has abysmal graduation rates and this new policy will only make it worse. You can't fore people to prepare their future. Those teens deserve the freedom to choose what they want to do with their lives. PERIOD.
Quote from: witch on July 06, 2017, 09:20:48 PM
I just read the article and I think this mess is a farce. :dead: Chicago has abysmal graduation rates and this new policy will only make it worse. You can't fore people to prepare their future. Those teens deserve the freedom to choose what they want to do with their lives. PERIOD.
!!!!
It's a sneaking ploy to KEEP them down
Instead of spending money to revamp the school system they box them in and force them to make plans in a fucked up school system
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Somebody lock this damn thread.
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Quote from: Kaeli. on July 06, 2017, 09:30:01 AM
Kind of a good idea when u think about it lolz... less bums tax payers have to care for in the long run
Aren't you unemployed?
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Quote from: Pearls on July 06, 2017, 10:55:28 PM
Quote from: Kaeli. on July 06, 2017, 09:30:01 AM
Kind of a good idea when u think about it lolz... less bums tax payers have to care for in the long run
Aren't you unemployed?
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Quote from: TheNextLew on July 06, 2017, 09:08:02 PM
Not gettin my diploma is uncaused for
only works with Glock bby
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Hey GodMel
Quote from: MelMel on July 06, 2017, 11:11:02 PM
Quote from: TheNextLew on July 06, 2017, 09:08:02 PM
Not gettin my diploma is uncaused for
only works with Glock bby
He's been searching for a response for a while, glad u obliged
Quote from: G! on July 06, 2017, 11:15:14 PM
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Hey GodMel
he done lose his mind bby! :uhh: :uhh: :uhh:
Quote from: MelMel on July 06, 2017, 11:24:16 PM
Quote from: G! on July 06, 2017, 11:15:14 PM
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Hey GodMel
he done lose his mind bby! :uhh: :uhh: :uhh:
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He never had it bby Luv
Quote from: Vonc2002 on July 06, 2017, 11:18:07 PM
Quote from: MelMel on July 06, 2017, 11:11:02 PM
Quote from: TheNextLew on July 06, 2017, 09:08:02 PM
Not gettin my diploma is uncaused for
only works with Glock bby
He's been searching for a response for a while, glad u obliged
Gorl sitdown ita kinda my new fav word
Its un calllled and no cause at the same time
Are you fcking kidding me?
Who came up with this shit?
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