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Title: Queen Justine makes history as 1st black female singer to kneel during Anthem
Post by: Young on October 20, 2017, 10:06:00 PM
https://instagram.com/p/BafTzNhFPJg/
Title: Re: Queen Justine makes history as first singer to kneel during National Anthem
Post by: BAPHOMET. on October 20, 2017, 10:08:27 PM
why even bother to sing the shit?

now she literally booked this to do this for attention and its...
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Title: Re: Queen Justine makes history as first singer to kneel during National Anthem
Post by: Young on October 20, 2017, 10:12:22 PM
It?s a good cause hun

You okay ?
Title: Re: Queen Justine makes history as first singer to kneel during National Anthem
Post by: Nine on October 20, 2017, 10:13:17 PM
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This Stevie mess out

Title: Re: Queen Justine makes history as first singer to kneel during National Anthem
Post by: Young on October 20, 2017, 10:13:57 PM
Quote from: Nine on October 20, 2017, 10:13:17 PM
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This Stevie mess out

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Title: Re: Queen Justine makes history as first singer to kneel during National Anthem
Post by: Young on October 20, 2017, 10:14:24 PM
I?m proud of Queen

https://instagram.com/p/Bae73eNlAQJ/
Title: Re: Queen Justine makes history as first singer to kneel during National Anthem
Post by: BAPHOMET. on October 20, 2017, 10:14:30 PM
QuoteGot a bit shaky at the end.. was pretty uneasy about singing the anthem and probably won?t ever be invited to sing it again but I had to take a knee for the opening game in my city and let my voice be heard.
We will not be silenced ?? #blacklivesmatter

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Title: Re: Queen Justine makes history as first singer to kneel during National Anthem
Post by: Young on October 20, 2017, 10:15:01 PM
Quote from: Baph al Mana. on October 20, 2017, 10:14:30 PM
QuoteGot a bit shaky at the end.. was pretty uneasy about singing the anthem and probably won?t ever be invited to sing it again but I had to take a knee for the opening game in my city and let my voice be heard.
We will not be silenced ?? #blacklivesmatter

(https://i.imgur.com/6IcEe9t.gif)


https://instagram.com/p/BaR98L1FSs3/
Title: Re: Queen Justine makes history as first singer to kneel during National Anthem
Post by: Young on October 20, 2017, 10:15:30 PM
This rising star

https://instagram.com/p/BaZuYXyFea7/
Title: Re: Queen Justine makes history as first singer to kneel during National Anthem
Post by: BAPHOMET. on October 20, 2017, 10:16:43 PM
Quote from: Young on October 20, 2017, 10:15:01 PM
Quote from: Baph al Mana. on October 20, 2017, 10:14:30 PM
QuoteGot a bit shaky at the end.. was pretty uneasy about singing the anthem and probably won?t ever be invited to sing it again but I had to take a knee for the opening game in my city and let my voice be heard.
We will not be silenced ?? #blacklivesmatter

(https://i.imgur.com/6IcEe9t.gif)


https://instagram.com/p/BaR98L1FSs3/

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Title: Re: Queen Justine makes history as first singer to kneel during National Anthem
Post by: Eternal Bell on October 21, 2017, 01:23:14 AM
get tht spotlights queens

i took two knees t'nite in a alley
Title: Re: Queen Justine makes history as first singer to kneel during National Anthem
Post by: ya rock muh world. on October 21, 2017, 01:24:50 AM
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So she kneeled after she began singing it? :plzstop:

i cant do this anymore
Title: Re: Queen Justine makes history as first singer to kneel during National Anthem
Post by: ya rock muh world. on October 21, 2017, 01:26:44 AM
it would have made a bigger statement to simply walk up there , perch up there and take a deep breath like she was about to WAIL for the national gawds

then kneel instead of singing :plzstop: :plzstop: woulda been iconic tbh
Title: Re: Queen Justine makes history as first singer to kneel during National Anthem
Post by: Eternal Bell on October 21, 2017, 01:29:41 AM
Quote from: human nature on October 21, 2017, 01:26:44 AM
it would have made a bigger statement to simply walk up there , perch up there and take a deep breath like she was about to WAIL for the national gawds

then kneel instead of singing :plzstop: :plzstop: woulda been iconic tbh
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tht woulda been a bigger cackle
Title: Re: Queen Justine makes history as first singer to kneel during National Anthem
Post by: Young on October 21, 2017, 01:36:21 AM
Quote from: AfrakaBell on October 21, 2017, 01:29:41 AM
Quote from: human nature on October 21, 2017, 01:26:44 AM
it would have made a bigger statement to simply walk up there , perch up there and take a deep breath like she was about to WAIL for the national gawds

then kneel instead of singing :plzstop: :plzstop: woulda been iconic tbh
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tht woulda been a bigger cackle

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That would have fucked her check up I?m sure
Title: Re: Queen Justine makes history as first singer to kneel during National Anthem
Post by: ya rock muh world. on October 21, 2017, 01:37:42 AM
Quote from: Young on October 21, 2017, 01:36:21 AM
Quote from: AfrakaBell on October 21, 2017, 01:29:41 AM
Quote from: human nature on October 21, 2017, 01:26:44 AM
it would have made a bigger statement to simply walk up there , perch up there and take a deep breath like she was about to WAIL for the national gawds

then kneel instead of singing :plzstop: :plzstop: woulda been iconic tbh
YBHJKBRNYE

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tht woulda been a bigger cackle

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That would have fucked her check up I?m sure
Well that's what usually happens when you really get political, instead of tip-toeing around it.sdnnsd
(which she isn't obligated to do)

but her gesture was brave nonetheless.
Title: Re: Queen Justine makes history as first singer to kneel during National Anthem
Post by: Young on October 21, 2017, 01:39:46 AM
Quote from: human nature on October 21, 2017, 01:37:42 AM
Quote from: Young on October 21, 2017, 01:36:21 AM
Quote from: AfrakaBell on October 21, 2017, 01:29:41 AM
Quote from: human nature on October 21, 2017, 01:26:44 AM
it would have made a bigger statement to simply walk up there , perch up there and take a deep breath like she was about to WAIL for the national gawds

then kneel instead of singing :plzstop: :plzstop: woulda been iconic tbh
YBHJKBRNYE

ERS
N
Y


tht woulda been a bigger cackle

Dbdbfbfbfbfbfbfbfbfbfff

That would have fucked her check up I?m sure
Well that's what usually happens when you really get political, instead of tip-toeing around it.sdnnsd
(which she isn't obligated to do)

but her gesture was brave nonetheless.

Yeah I don?t think she has enough force or mementum behind her to do something like that yet without the consequences being too severe
Title: Re: Queen Justine makes history as first singer to kneel during National Anthem
Post by: Kaeli. on October 21, 2017, 01:47:25 AM
I'm sorry

But what's the point of singing it :uhh:
Title: Re: Queen Justine makes history as first singer to kneel during National Anthem
Post by: ya rock muh world. on October 21, 2017, 01:47:37 AM
Quote from: Young on October 21, 2017, 01:39:46 AM
Quote from: human nature on October 21, 2017, 01:37:42 AM
Quote from: Young on October 21, 2017, 01:36:21 AM
Quote from: AfrakaBell on October 21, 2017, 01:29:41 AM
Quote from: human nature on October 21, 2017, 01:26:44 AM
it would have made a bigger statement to simply walk up there , perch up there and take a deep breath like she was about to WAIL for the national gawds

then kneel instead of singing :plzstop: :plzstop: woulda been iconic tbh
YBHJKBRNYE

ERS
N
Y


tht woulda been a bigger cackle

Dbdbfbfbfbfbfbfbfbfbfff

That would have fucked her check up I?m sure
Well that's what usually happens when you really get political, instead of tip-toeing around it.sdnnsd
(which she isn't obligated to do)

but her gesture was brave nonetheless.

Yeah I don?t think she has enough force or mementum behind her to do something like that yet without the consequences being too severe
It's probably just best she keep away from the political mess. ssd
not everyone has to be an activist, etc.

it was just a mixed message to me - singing the anthem but kneeling . those actions contradict one another iMO.

but it could be her way of saying that "hey im here to do a job and get my exposure but my heart is still with u trade"
Title: Re: Queen Justine makes history as first singer to kneel during National Anthem
Post by: BAPHOMET. on October 21, 2017, 01:48:10 AM
Quote from: Kaeli. on October 21, 2017, 01:47:25 AM
I'm sorry

But what's the point of singing it :uhh:

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Title: Re: Queen Justine makes history as first singer to kneel during National Anthem
Post by: yummy on October 21, 2017, 02:09:07 AM
Yeah, I'm not clapping for this :dead:

And I'm confused as to what comes next after as a result of thw kneeling business. Are we trying get Colin back on team? If he does get back on team, do we go back to standing? Are we trying to change NFL policy regarding players? As of right now, this is nothing more than an edgy gesture to piss off white people.
Title: Re: Queen Justine makes history as first singer to kneel during National Anthem
Post by: Eternal Bell on October 21, 2017, 02:10:59 AM
ima kneel at kfc tomorra as i wait for my order
Title: Re: Queen Justine makes history as first singer to kneel during National Anthem
Post by: Young on October 21, 2017, 02:16:27 AM
Great moevement
Title: Re: Queen Justine makes history as first singer to kneel during National Anthem
Post by: Young on October 21, 2017, 02:18:06 AM
Quote from: human nature on October 21, 2017, 01:47:37 AM
Quote from: Young on October 21, 2017, 01:39:46 AM
Quote from: human nature on October 21, 2017, 01:37:42 AM
Quote from: Young on October 21, 2017, 01:36:21 AM
Quote from: AfrakaBell on October 21, 2017, 01:29:41 AM
Quote from: human nature on October 21, 2017, 01:26:44 AM
it would have made a bigger statement to simply walk up there , perch up there and take a deep breath like she was about to WAIL for the national gawds

then kneel instead of singing :plzstop: :plzstop: woulda been iconic tbh
YBHJKBRNYE

ERS
N
Y


tht woulda been a bigger cackle

Dbdbfbfbfbfbfbfbfbfbfff

That would have fucked her check up I?m sure
Well that's what usually happens when you really get political, instead of tip-toeing around it.sdnnsd
(which she isn't obligated to do)

but her gesture was brave nonetheless.

Yeah I don?t think she has enough force or mementum behind her to do something like that yet without the consequences being too severe
It's probably just best she keep away from the political mess. ssd
not everyone has to be an activist, etc.

it was just a mixed message to me - singing the anthem but kneeling . those actions contradict one another iMO.

but it could be her way of saying that "hey im here to do a job and get my exposure but my heart is still with u trade"

That last part

I think she?s just trying to show her stance on everything


cute lil gesture mess
Title: Re: Queen Justine makes history as first singer to kneel during National Anthem
Post by: MelMel on October 21, 2017, 02:43:58 AM
no she wasn't :plzstop:

http://nypost.com/2017/09/24/even-the-national-anthem-singer-is-kneeling/
Title: Re: Queen Justine makes history as first singer to kneel during National Anthem
Post by: Young on October 21, 2017, 02:54:47 AM
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Title: Re: Queen Justine makes history as first singer to kneel during National Anthem
Post by: MelMel on October 21, 2017, 02:56:15 AM
Quote from: Young on October 21, 2017, 02:54:47 AM
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Title: Re: Queen Justine makes history as first singer to kneel during National Anthem
Post by: Eternal Bell on October 21, 2017, 02:57:26 AM
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Title: Re: Queen Justine makes history as first singer to kneel during National Anthem
Post by: LOONA. on October 21, 2017, 09:36:51 AM
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I don't think she should've done this.     

Title: Re: Queen Justine makes history as first singer to kneel during National Anthem
Post by: KING BENTLEY. on October 21, 2017, 09:43:15 AM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on October 21, 2017, 02:09:07 AM
Yeah, I'm not clapping for this :dead:

And I'm confused as to what comes next after as a result of thw kneeling business. Are we trying get Colin back on team? If he does get back on team, do we go back to standing? Are we trying to change NFL policy regarding players? As of right now, this is nothing more than an edgy gesture to piss off white people.
sssssssss

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Like .... what is the kneeling actually accomplishing. I mean do it if you like, but better action strategies can be attributed to the BLM movement

Change the political, judicial, and law enforcement infrastructure or I swear to GOD I?m gonna keep kneeling white ppl! ARRRGGGHHH!!!?
:fuming:
Title: Re: Queen Justine makes history as first singer to kneel during National Anthem
Post by: AIDS on October 21, 2017, 09:54:03 AM
This is silly
Title: Re: Queen Justine makes history as first singer to kneel during National Anthem
Post by: ya rock muh world. on October 21, 2017, 09:58:11 AM
Who would've thought simply being too tired on a bus would change anything but it did.

You can't count out the "small" things because it's not the action in itself that's life changing but it's what it has the potential to spark/create which has the potential to be most meaningful or productive.

but this was just contradictory .
Title: Re: Queen Justine makes history as first singer to kneel during National Anthem
Post by: KING BENTLEY. on October 21, 2017, 10:16:29 AM
 .... so lemme get this str8 ...

you?re comparing Rosa Parks refusing to get out of her seat, on a segregated bus system, in the south, while Jim Crow law were in effect, and getting JAILED ...

to a POP singer performing he national anthem, at a huge venue, that se signed a contract to do, getting paid for it, by white ppl, and went home to a comfy house and bed after

I enjoy your dissenting opinions on EVERYTHING so I just wanna it correct
Title: Re: Queen Justine makes history as first singer to kneel during National Anthem
Post by: ya rock muh world. on October 21, 2017, 10:18:34 AM
It's not a direct comparison - simply referencing how small gestures can have bigger impact. The most amazing part of Rosa's story has always been that she was "just" a woman tired from work who didn't want to move. But go down whatever road you'd like with it. Bring out the dramatics. Moving along lol
Title: Re: Queen Justine makes history as first singer to kneel during National Anthem
Post by: KING BENTLEY. on October 21, 2017, 10:21:51 AM
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no you can actually stay

I just wanted clarity, thank you

I just listed the factors involved to illustrate what Rosa did was no ?small? thing

I?m sure Justine didn?t think she would be beaten, killed, or jailed for kneeling at a performance :dead:
Title: Re: Queen Justine makes history as first singer to kneel during National Anthem
Post by: ya rock muh world. on October 21, 2017, 10:22:28 AM
ok.
Title: Re: Queen Justine makes history as first singer to kneel during National Anthem
Post by: Sinpool on October 21, 2017, 10:55:46 AM
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She aint the first

A white womuh did it first
Title: Re: Queen Justine makes history as first singer to kneel during National Anthem
Post by: Sinpool on October 21, 2017, 10:58:45 AM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on October 21, 2017, 02:09:07 AM
Yeah, I'm not clapping for this :dead:

And I'm confused as to what comes next after as a result of thw kneeling business. Are we trying get Colin back on team? If he does get back on team, do we go back to standing? Are we trying to change NFL policy regarding players? As of right now, this is nothing more than an edgy gesture to piss off white people.

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Yeah the whole narrative has been changed and Colin's point is overlooked now because white people only have the damns army and police on the brain and make everything about the damn veterans and the people in the NFL who did kneel only did it to piss off Trump. Nothing to do with Police Brutality so it's like...pointless now because Colins message isn't even the focal point.
Title: Re: Queen Justine makes history as first singer to kneel during National Anthem
Post by: Barbie Dangerous on October 21, 2017, 01:24:14 PM
Quote from: Young on October 20, 2017, 10:06:00 PM
https://instagram.com/p/BafTzNhFPJg/
She sounded so great, I love her. She needs better music tho..
Title: Re: Queen Justine makes history as first singer to kneel during National Anthem
Post by: XXX. on October 21, 2017, 01:31:39 PM
I really don't know how I feel about this. 
Title: Re: Queen Justine makes history as first singer to kneel during National Anthem
Post by: Young on October 21, 2017, 01:49:17 PM
Quote from: BowDown on October 21, 2017, 01:24:14 PM
Quote from: Young on October 20, 2017, 10:06:00 PM
https://instagram.com/p/BafTzNhFPJg/
She sounded so great, I love her. She needs better music tho..
Title: Re: Queen Justine makes history as first singer to kneel during National Anthem
Post by: LOONA. on October 21, 2017, 01:51:09 PM
And I actually forgot she's not the first. Some white girl did it at a football game not too long ago.   
Title: Re: Queen Justine makes history as 1st black female singer to kneel during Anthem
Post by: The Brandy Barbie on October 21, 2017, 03:22:59 PM
How is it contradictory? She 's not kneeling to protest the anthem.  She's protesting police violence.  If she just wants America to live up to it 's mantra of liberty and justice for all , I don't see how she can't sing and acknowledge that we still have a ways to go.
Title: Re: Queen Justine makes history as 1st black female singer to kneel during Anthem
Post by: The Brandy Barbie on October 21, 2017, 03:30:26 PM
Black people in our generation almost never have clearly defined goals.

We should be protesting specifically for the law to be changed so every time an officer turns off his camera when making a stop, it's against the law and he should be punished.

The law needs to have a more clear definition of what "resisting arrest" is.  Not just 'cause an officer said so.
Title: Re: Queen Justine makes history as 1st black female singer to kneel during Anthem
Post by: KING BENTLEY. on October 21, 2017, 04:05:07 PM
Quote from: The Brandy Barbie on October 21, 2017, 03:22:59 PM
How is it contradictory? She 's not kneeling to protest the anthem.  She's protesting police violence.  If she just wants America to live up to it 's mantra of liberty and justice for all , I don't see how she can't sing and acknowledge that we still have a ways to go.
She was paid :dead:
By the system that is part of the problem.

If I?m protesting something I ain?t supporting shit!

All these blacks talking about the NFL. It?s ridiculous what ppl try to turn into protests these days.

Ok well
Players stop playing!
Viewers stop watching!
Stop buying your children the merchandise! Stop buying them Nike shoes.

It may hurt a little bit but support BLACK owned mess.

Coaches, players, millionaire blacks, step UP! and Somebody start their OWN football league so players can still get paid like Diddy suggested.

But they won?t because it?s all for SHOW. We are a for show ass race now. Lemme rant on Twitter to SHOW my disgust. Lemme post on Facebook to show my disgust.

Cause I just can?t with the gorls comparing this mess to the civil rights movement heavyweights

Not you. My soul is still hurt from Afro calling Justine ?Rosa? :dead:
Title: Re: Queen Justine makes history as 1st black female singer to kneel during Anthem
Post by: ya rock muh world. on October 21, 2017, 04:08:42 PM
:rudone:
Title: Re: Queen Justine makes history as first singer to kneel during National Anthem
Post by: yummy on October 21, 2017, 04:13:00 PM
Quote from: human nature on October 21, 2017, 09:58:11 AM
Who would've thought simply being too tired on a bus would change anything but it did.

You can't count out the "small" things because it's not the action in itself that's life changing but it's what it has the potential to spark/create which has the potential to be most meaningful or productive.

but this was just contradictory .

I see your point, but Rosa's gesture sparked an actual boycott. Black folks were carpooling to work and school to prove a point and it worked. The niggas who were applauding Colin are still tuning to watch football every Sunday.

There doesn't seem to a clear goal here other than looking like you're down for the cause.
Title: Re: Queen Justine makes history as first singer to kneel during National Anthem
Post by: ya rock muh world. on October 21, 2017, 04:18:09 PM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on October 21, 2017, 04:13:00 PM
Quote from: human nature on October 21, 2017, 09:58:11 AM
Who would've thought simply being too tired on a bus would change anything but it did.

You can't count out the "small" things because it's not the action in itself that's life changing but it's what it has the potential to spark/create which has the potential to be most meaningful or productive.

but this was just contradictory .

I see your point, but Rosa's gesture sparked an actual boycott. Black folks were carpooling to work and school to prove a point and it worked. The niggas who were applauding Colin are still tuning to watch football every Sunday.

There doesn't seem to a clear goal here other than looking like you're down for the cause.
I still don't see the point in what Justine did and in no way find it directly comparable to Rosa Parks. I was speaking in regard to small gestures in general. It was a bit of a side thought. Hope that makes sense.

And I agree - my point was that smaller gestures in themselves may not be the biggest gamechangers but it is what they can spark which makes a big difference. In general.
Title: Re: Queen Justine makes history as 1st black female singer to kneel during Anthem
Post by: Barbie Dangerous on October 21, 2017, 04:35:09 PM
This title edit.
:plzstop:
Title: Re: Queen Justine makes history as 1st black female singer to kneel during Anthem
Post by: b7 on October 21, 2017, 04:48:11 PM
Justine girl sdddfff get ur name out there I guess

Gorgeous self
Title: Re: Queen Justine makes history as first singer to kneel during National Anthem
Post by: b7 on October 21, 2017, 04:51:15 PM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on October 21, 2017, 02:09:07 AM
Yeah, I'm not clapping for this :dead:

And I'm confused as to what comes next after as a result of thw kneeling business. Are we trying get Colin back on team? If he does get back on team, do we go back to standing? Are we trying to change NFL policy regarding players? As of right now, this is nothing more than an edgy gesture to piss off white people.
thats part of the goal

It was originally intended to get these white girls to acknowledge police brutality and all, but now we?re just trying to get them to at least LISTEN to the outrage and for the NFL to change some policies for sure

Their commissioner is a piece of shit
Title: Re: Queen Justine makes history as 1st black female singer to kneel during Anthem
Post by: HUGO on October 21, 2017, 04:57:29 PM
She should?ve changed the lyrics a bit

Give the whiteys a lil remix
Title: Re: Queen Justine makes history as first singer to kneel during National Anthem
Post by: b7 on October 21, 2017, 05:10:27 PM
Quote from: ORORO MUNROE-UDAKU on October 21, 2017, 09:43:15 AM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on October 21, 2017, 02:09:07 AM
Yeah, I'm not clapping for this :dead:

And I'm confused as to what comes next after as a result of thw kneeling business. Are we trying get Colin back on team? If he does get back on team, do we go back to standing? Are we trying to change NFL policy regarding players? As of right now, this is nothing more than an edgy gesture to piss off white people.
sssssssss

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Like .... what is the kneeling actually accomplishing. I mean do it if you like, but better action strategies can be attributed to the BLM movement

Change the political, judicial, and law enforcement infrastructure or I swear to GOD I?m gonna keep kneeling white ppl! ARRRGGGHHH!!!?
:fuming:
it was doing some good getting the conversation started until Trump and the girls successfully changed th narrative and made it about something else entirely
Title: Re: Queen Justine makes history as first singer to kneel during National Anthem
Post by: Barbie Dangerous on October 21, 2017, 07:07:51 PM
Quote from: 1RIG on October 21, 2017, 05:10:27 PM
Quote from: ORORO MUNROE-UDAKU on October 21, 2017, 09:43:15 AM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on October 21, 2017, 02:09:07 AM
Yeah, I'm not clapping for this :dead:

And I'm confused as to what comes next after as a result of thw kneeling business. Are we trying get Colin back on team? If he does get back on team, do we go back to standing? Are we trying to change NFL policy regarding players? As of right now, this is nothing more than an edgy gesture to piss off white people.
sssssssss

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Like .... what is the kneeling actually accomplishing. I mean do it if you like, but better action strategies can be attributed to the BLM movement

Change the political, judicial, and law enforcement infrastructure or I swear to GOD I?m gonna keep kneeling white ppl! ARRRGGGHHH!!!?
:fuming:
it was doing some good getting the conversation started until Trump and the girls successfully changed th narrative and made it about something else entirely
!!!