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Cause I disagree with a LOT of it.
GaGa is placed too high. She doesn't sing better than Rihanna. And she doesn't perform better than Beyonc?.
And Taylor being first for Discography has me in tears.
n
Quote from: XXX. on November 13, 2017, 03:21:52 PM
GaGa is placed too high. She doesn't sing better than Rihanna.
love Rih but gaga definitely sings better than her :dead:
Bey is the best performer out of all these girls, and Rih has the best catalog.
So yeah, this list is trash.
but overall this is shit
There's nothing I like about Taylor. She should be last in all categories
Quote from: MARS. on November 13, 2017, 03:23:29 PM
Quote from: XXX. on November 13, 2017, 03:21:52 PM
GaGa is placed too high. She doesn't sing better than Rihanna.
love Rih but gaga definitely sings better than her :dead:
I do think Gaga songs better than Rih, but does definitely not out perform Bey :dead:
The rest is whatever
Wrong
Quote from: MARS. on November 13, 2017, 03:23:29 PM
Quote from: XXX. on November 13, 2017, 03:21:52 PM
GaGa is placed too high. She doesn't sing better than Rihanna.
love Rih but gaga definitely sings better than her :dead:
I'm sorry.
GaGa doesn't have a single vocal as great as "Diamonds" at X-Factor.
Sounding like Cookie Monster with that fake soul & grunts. Her voice gives me Broadway. :udontlookok:
Guys, I'm not even a Rih, but I'm kinda FUMING at ya'll saying GaGa sings better than her.
:uhh:
well she does
:udontlookok:
Gaga doing the Sound of Music at the Oscars>>>>>
Rih could never
Gag' can give a vocal when she wants
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxcFcKvjZCk
Quote from: AYR on November 13, 2017, 03:27:37 PM
Gaga doing the Sound of Music at the Oscars>>>>>
Rih could never
Quote from: M??D?? on November 13, 2017, 03:27:55 PM
Gag' can give a vocal when she wants
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxcFcKvjZCk
:oof:
Um Cody babe, Gaga does sing better than queen :dead:
D
Not Gag's discography being #2. What white preteen fag made this mess? Ka' sis?
:udontlookok:
Quote from: Cartier on November 13, 2017, 03:30:15 PM
Um Cody babe, Gaga does sing better than queen :dead:
:udontlookok:
I just don't hear it. Even in that Sound Of Music performance posted.
Maybe I just prefer the tone of Rihanna's voice more. And I'm weighing that more than ability. But even then, I have never really heard GaGa do anything that Rih hasn't done.
But mess!
Rihanna's voice is better than Gaga's but gaga is the better vocalist technically imo
Performance: Bey > Gaga > Rih > Taylor
Writing: Gaga > Taylor > Bey > Rih
Hits: Rih > Taylor > Bey > Gaga? idk, this one was hard.
Discography: Rih = Bey (depending on my mood) > Gaga > jTaylor. Don't know why she was first n
Fashion: Rih > Bey > Gaga > Taylor. Sorry, never used Gaga's avant garde mess & Taylor is basic
Acclaim: Bey > Taylor > Gaga > Rih. I think Rih will probs snatch gaga in this area
Videography: Beyonce > Gaga > Rih > Taylor
Que, I agree bvy. I definitely prefer Rih's tone n vocals, but Gag is definitely the better vocalist. :dead:
Quote from: XXX. on November 13, 2017, 03:43:37 PM
Quote from: Cartier on November 13, 2017, 03:30:15 PM
Um Cody babe, Gaga does sing better than queen :dead:
:udontlookok:
I just don't hear it. Even in that Sound Of Music performance posted.
Maybe I just prefer the tone of Rihanna's voice more. And I'm weighing that more than ability. But even then, I have never really heard GaGa do anything that Rih hasn't done.
But mess!
That's the thing, Rih has a great tone that lends itself well to a lot of styles, but Gaga is technically a better singer.
honestly would expect to see Britney here instead of Taylor but i guess
Gaga's vocals & Performance ability are def overrated tho :udontlookok:
:kii: :kii: :kii: :kii:
no ma'am this is all wrong
lemme re-arrange it for yawl
Quote from: Kaeli. on November 13, 2017, 03:47:34 PM
Gaga's vocals & Performance ability are def overrated tho :udontlookok:
Performance maybe, but vocals nah. The bitch can sing.
why is Rihanna not first in Discography
:uhh: :uhh: :uhh: :uhh:
we can't deny she has the best catalogue of ANY pop female artist
Yeah lol
PERFORMANCE: Bey > Gaga > Rih > Taylor
WRITING: Gaga > Taylor > Rih = Bey
HITS: Rih > Taylor > Gaga = Bey
DISCOGRAPHY: Rih > Bey > Gaga > Taylor
FASHION: Rih > Gaga = Bey = Taylor
ACCLAIM: Bey = Gaga > Taylor > Rih
VIDEOGRAPHY: Gaga > Bey > Rih > Taylor
I seen this over the weekend. They did the same thing with Brandy, Monica, Aaliyah, and Ashanti.
not Ashanti :dead:
Quote from: MARS. on November 13, 2017, 04:04:41 PM
not Ashanti :dead:
Nnnn not too much on queen
I need to see that list tho
I would think they would've used Mya instead
and laz post it so we can have a 50 page mess out
Quote from: MARS. on November 13, 2017, 04:07:47 PM
and laz post it so we can have a 50 page mess out
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If Brandy isn?t #1 on vocals
Plz don?t
Discography is the biggest joke here. Taylor wishes
and Gaga aint nowhere near the performer Bey is, but she is great in her own right. Or
was
Quote from: XXX. on November 13, 2017, 03:25:23 PM
Quote from: MARS. on November 13, 2017, 03:23:29 PM
Quote from: XXX. on November 13, 2017, 03:21:52 PM
GaGa is placed too high. She doesn't sing better than Rihanna.
love Rih but gaga definitely sings better than her :dead:
I'm sorry.
GaGa doesn't have a single vocal as great as "Diamonds" at X-Factor.
Sounding like Cookie Monster with that fake soul & grunts. Her voice gives me Broadway. :udontlookok:
Gaga's Sounds of Music tribute definitely proved she can blow and maybe she's a lot more skilled than
Rih as a vocalist, but i definitely enjoy Rihanna's style way more.
Taylor does have a great discography but would say, Rihanna, Taylor, Beyonce then Gaga.
Quote from: Lazarus on November 13, 2017, 04:04:13 PM
I seen this over the weekend. They did the same thing with Brandy, Monica, Aaliyah, and Ashanti.
post it
Quote from: AYR on November 13, 2017, 03:27:37 PM
Gaga doing the Sound of Music at the Oscars>>>>>
Rih could never
:dead: we said the same thing
thats when i was like WAIT :uhh: she forces those grunts and rock sounds out of her voice when she sings her
own stuff but u can tell underneath it all she can really really sing
No one can deny Rih's improvement over the years tho
Quote from: MARS. on November 13, 2017, 03:23:29 PM
Quote from: XXX. on November 13, 2017, 03:21:52 PM
GaGa is placed too high. She doesn't sing better than Rihanna.
Hate Rih and gaga definitely sings better than her :dead:
!!!!
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Quote from: AYR on November 13, 2017, 03:27:37 PM
Gaga doing the Sound of Music at the Oscars>>>>>
Rih could never
:dead: we said the same thing
thats when i was like WAIT :uhh: she forces those grunts and rock sounds out of her voice when she sings her
own stuff but u can tell underneath it all she can really really sing
No one can deny Rih's improvement over the years tho
not her "improvements"
this consolation prize mess :dead:
Ya'll know I had to be EXTRA!
For me it's.....
Performance
1. Beyonc?
No one is even close. The performer of her generation. Her performances are anticipated and an event no matter the occasion. Old school showmanship mixed with her own unique gift. Larger than life stage presence. Often called the "female MJ". Beyonc? is the BAR for performance male or female.
2. GaGa
3. Rihanna
4. Taylor
Writing
1. Lady GaGa
She is the best writer here and has proven to be able to write great songs across different genres and styles.
2. Taylor Swift
3. Beyonc?
4. Rihanna
HITS
1. Rihanna
No contest. Rihanna can literally breathe and it's bound to chart Top 20 if not Top 10. She has a good ear for hits. And 12 years in, Rihanna seems to know what works for her and what doesn't. Out of everyone here, she has the X-Factor for making a hit record. There's just something about her voice and overall tone that is Pop music Gold whether it's Urban leaning or Top 40. Her voice makes the record catchy and gives it that thing. Rihanna will probably have over 50 Top 10's by the time her career is finished.
2. Beyonc?
3. Taylor Swift (Has about 5 more Top 10's than Beyonce, but are her hits memorable or impactful?)
4. Lady GaGa (Her Super Bowl set felt like a trip down memory lane that stopped 10 years ago.)
DISCOGRAPHY
1. Beyonc?
She makes the best albums out of this bunch. Even if they aren't perfect, her catalog is the strongest here. A lot of the girls know her album tracks just as much as they do the singles. The 2nd half of her career moved to creating "full bodies of work" as opposed to "hit singles" and she's benefitted from that tremendously. Her Metacritic scores are also the highest of the 4.
2. Rihanna
3. Lady GaGa
4. Taylor Swift
FASHION
1. Rihanna
She's very hit or miss (mostly miss) now, but Rihanna had all the girls wanting to EDGE IT UP from 2007-2010. Her style is always young, fresh, forward... and she's a risk taker. Her street style is legendary, and the girls kind of use her name with the word "fashion" synonymously. Fashion houses gag and adore her. And all want her in their clothes. She has a respect for it, and she takes it seriously. No...contest!
2. Lady GaGa
3. Beyonc?
4. Taylor Swift
ACCLAIM
1. Beyonc?
Even if she loses Album Of The Year for a 4th time, she's the most acclaimed. 22 Grammys. The highest metacritic score of these 4. And just last year, "Formation" became the most awarded song EVER! Think pieces and college courses pop up left and right to study Beyonc? and her work. She's respected by her peers and mostly all of the legends before her. Her name has become synonymous with "perfection" and "greatness". ...."You have the same 24 hours in the day as Beyonc?!"...."Would Would Beyonc? Do?".....
She's the GOAT of her generation.
2. Taylor Swift
3. Rihanna
4. Lady GaGa (I would have put GaGa over Rihanna a few years ago, but she fell off...HARD!)
VIDEOGRAPHY
1. Beyonce
Visually, I haven't seen any of the girls here do anything as strong conceptually as Lemonade. Ever since Todd Tourso left GaGa and became Beyonc?'s creative director, she's been untouchable in that area.
2. Rihanna
3. Lady GaGa
4. Taylor Swift
VOCALS
1. Beyonce
I mean... Please!
2. Rihanna
3. Lady GaGa
4. Taylor Swift
dead @ Gaga being over Bey in performing
Which Monster made this mess
Gaga def sings better Rihanna.
But Taylor should be LAST on every damn part of this list.
:guys: Cody..... gaga SINGS circles around Rih (who isnt even all that good of a singer to begin with).
But I just prefer Rih's "singing" over whatever Gaga does cause I dont use Gaga live at ALL.
Quote from: M??D?? on November 13, 2017, 03:53:49 PM
PERFORMANCE: Bey > Gaga > Rih > Taylor
WRITING: Gaga > Taylor > Rih = Bey
HITS: Rih > Taylor > Gaga = Bey
DISCOGRAPHY: Rih > Bey > Gaga > Taylor
FASHION: Rih > Gaga = Bey = Taylor
ACCLAIM: Bey = Gaga > Taylor > Rih
VIDEOGRAPHY: Gaga > Bey > Rih > Taylor
When you list hits are you saying who has more or who has bigger? Taylor may have more but Gags hits > Trailor
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Time 4 some mess :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:
POOR MONICA...
It's what she deserves tbh
And Brandys discography > Aaliyah
They tried it.
Dead @ Mon being last in almost every category
Whoever made it was right haha
Not Aaliyah being #2 in vocals, Ashanti being #2 in performance, Ashanti being #1 in hits, Aaliyah being #1 in discography
Which Li made that one
Honestly its KINDA accurate.
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Time 4 some mess :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:
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Quote from: Nine on November 13, 2017, 05:28:32 PM
Not Aaliyah being #2 in vocals, Ashanti being #2 in performance, Ashanti being #1 in hits, Aaliyah being #1 in discography
Which Li made that one
I?m crying
Not Ashanti being #1 for writing
What uneducated fag wrote this
And lis discography isn?t better than brans
That performance category is really a toss up tbh :dead:
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Time 4 some mess :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:
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The only thing accurate about it, is that Monica is where she belongs.
Quote from: MARS. on November 13, 2017, 05:30:07 PM
Not Ashanti being #1 for writing
What uneducated fag wrote this
I mean... where is the lie? Ashanti's writing is basic as fuck but... this is correct order.
Mon can't get first in one slot?
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Quote from: MARS. on November 13, 2017, 05:30:07 PM
Not Ashanti being #1 for writing
What uneducated fag wrote this
I mean... where is the lie? Ashanti's writing is basic as fuck but... this is correct order.
Brandy?s writing on NSN and FM >>>
R u crazy lol
And how is Aaliyah above Monica in the writing category. Monica has written a few songs.
What did li write? Serious question
Ashanti writes hits that stick like grits next case
Brandy performs better than Ashanti
Ashanti fashion is better than Brandys
Mm bran got more hits than Aaliyah
Monica's current fashion >>> those FashionNova fits Ashanti puts together.
Quote from: MARS. on November 13, 2017, 05:34:04 PM
What did li write? Serious question
Nothing. She never felt comfortable as a writer.
b yeah Li wasn't a writer, she said so herself.
Mon should be ahead there.
The performance category is a mess. It should be...
Brandy = Li > Shans > Mon
And even that's kinda not fair because Li didn't have the opportunity to evolve as
a performer the way Brandy did later on. So it's a toss up between them for me.
Quote from: Baph al Mana. on November 13, 2017, 05:36:41 PM
Monica's current fashion >>> those FashionNova fits Ashanti puts together.
Currently yeah but we can't just erase all the years she looked a mess.so it's still valid
n
What?s gud baph
What mainstream hits does Monica have besides the boy is mine and For you I will :kii:
Well she has 3 #1 singles
Stupid bitch
Quote from: ChillOut on November 13, 2017, 05:46:57 PM
What mainstream hits does Monica have besides the boy is mine and For you I will :kii:
Angel of Mine
The First Night
Don't Take It Personal
Before
Why I Love You
So Gone
How old are you ? :dead:
Quote from: ChillOut on November 13, 2017, 05:46:57 PM
What mainstream hits does Monica have besides the boy is mine and For you I will :kii:
well considering she has more #1's than Bran, Aaliyah & Ashanti...
Whew I?m ready to fight lol!
Quick, somebody ban Kae'
lemme do this one tho :justabit:
Vocals: Brandy > Monica > Aaliyah > Ashanti
Performance: Brandy > Monica > Aaliyah > Ashanti (Aaliyah was a pretty bad performer usually and while Mon doesn't do choreo, I think her presence is better, just my opinion!)
Writing: Ashanti > Brandy > Monica > Aaliyah (what did Aaliyah write... :udontlookok: )
Hits: Monica > Ashanti > Brandy > Aaliyah
Discography: Brandy > Aaliyah > Monica > Ashanti (the last two have like 2 good albums)
Fashion: Aaliyah > Brandy > Ashanti > Monica
Acclaim: Brandy > Aaliyah > Monica > Ashanti
Videography: Aaliyah > Brandy > Ashanti = Monica
Quote from: MARS. on November 13, 2017, 03:24:08 PM
There's nothing I like about Taylor. She should be last in all categories
!
Quote from: Cartier on November 13, 2017, 03:30:15 PM
Um Cody babe, Gaga does sing better than queen :dead:
!!!! :dead: :uhh:
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Quote from: MARS. on November 13, 2017, 03:23:29 PM
Quote from: XXX. on November 13, 2017, 03:21:52 PM
GaGa is placed too high. She doesn't sing better than Rihanna.
love Rih but gaga definitely sings better than her :dead:
I'm sorry.
GaGa doesn't have a single vocal as great as "Diamonds" at X-Factor.
Sounding like Cookie Monster with that fake soul & grunts. Her voice gives me Broadway. :udontlookok:
Rih could NEVER :uhh:
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Quote from: AYR on November 13, 2017, 03:27:37 PM
Gaga doing the Sound of Music at the Oscars>>>>>
Rih could never
Quote from: M??D?? on November 13, 2017, 03:27:55 PM
Gag' can give a vocal when she wants
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxcFcKvjZCk
:oof:
:blessed:
Quote from: Baph al Mana. on November 13, 2017, 05:03:55 PM
:guys: Cody..... gaga SINGS circles around Rih (who isnt even all that good of a singer to begin with).
But I just prefer Rih's "singing" over whatever Gaga does cause I dont use Gaga live at ALL.
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King, I kinda said what I said! :scrumptious:
Vocals doesn't just mean "ability". Okay, maybe GaGa could outsing her on a technical level, but tone is just as important. And Rihanna's tone on any track > GaGa's. GaGa's belting and carrying on sounds disgusting to me. Especially those forced grunts and growls.
So, I still say Rih > GaGa when it comes to vocals.
90% of the time Rihanna just sounds better.
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My', did you make this?
I'm screaming! :omf:
Not Ashanti!
Rihanna never sounds like anything live. She's forever pitchy (Stay), forever dodging notes (What Now, Pour it Up), and she's just inconsistent overall. A Gaga vocal is on key on average. And she has vocal tone versatility out of this world. She's Queen tbh :flamebroiled:
The harmonies on the Paparazzi performance at the VMAs >>>>>>
:gorlonfire:
bbb stan owt 'Lis
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Quote from: ChillOut on November 13, 2017, 05:46:57 PM
What mainstream hits does Monica have besides the boy is mine and For you I will :kii:
Angel of Mine
The First Night
Don't Take It Personal
Before
Why I Love You
So Gone
How old are you ? :dead:
But she doesn't have more hits than Aaliyah
Are You That Somebody
Try Again
Rock the Boat
More Than A Woman
We Need A Resolution
The One I Gave My Heart To
Back And Forth
One In A Million
Monica was more an urban artist, her music never truly crossover like Brandy and Aaliyah did. The latter even had successful films and Brandy hit TV shows.
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I must admit Bran's videos do be a mess. Her fashion too nnnn
Her discography is better than Li, and Brandy and Monica's HITS are way more iconic and plentiful than Li and Ashanti's 2 songs tbh.
Brandy herself said she is not a good writer and does not trust her pen, does not make Shan better tho lol
I would say Brandy performs better than Ashanti but not than Li
Brandy's videography is underrated imo even the cheap vids (wildest, long distance) are good
Only messy one was Afro
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My', did you make this?
I'm screaming! :omf:
Not Ashanti!
No. :dead:
Which wouldn't have been messy if someone "sexier" did it
Someone make one with Mariah, Whitney, Janet & Madonna. ACK!
Now, that's hard.
Quote from: Kaeli. on November 13, 2017, 05:57:23 PM
lemme do this one tho :justabit:
Vocals: Brandy > Monica > Aaliyah > Ashanti
Performance: Brandy > Monica > Aaliyah > Ashanti (Aaliyah was a pretty bad performer usually and while Mon doesn't do choreo, I think her presence is better, just my opinion!)
Writing: Ashanti > Brandy > Monica > Aaliyah (what did Aaliyah write... :udontlookok: )
Hits: Monica > Ashanti > Brandy > Aaliyah
Discography: Brandy > Aaliyah > Monica > Ashanti (the last two have like 2 good albums)
Fashion: Aaliyah > Brandy > Ashanti > Monica
Acclaim: Brandy > Aaliyah > Monica > Ashanti
Videography: Aaliyah > Brandy > Ashanti = Monica
I agree with all of this
Quote from: ChillOut on November 13, 2017, 06:36:32 PM
Quote from: Lazarus on November 13, 2017, 05:48:36 PM
Quote from: ChillOut on November 13, 2017, 05:46:57 PM
What mainstream hits does Monica have besides the boy is mine and For you I will :kii:
Angel of Mine
The First Night
Don't Take It Personal
Before
Why I Love You
So Gone
How old are you ? :dead:
But she doesn't have more hits than Aaliyah
Are You That Somebody
Try Again
Rock the Boat
More Than A Woman
We Need A Resolution
The One I Gave My Heart To
Back And Forth
One In A Million
Monica was more an urban artist, her music never truly crossover like Brandy and Aaliyah did. The latter even had successful films and Brandy hit TV shows.
Just one of them days
Why I love you so much
Before you walk out of my life
Like this and like that
For you I will
TBIM
angel of mine
The first night
So gone
You should?ve known better
So yeah you don?t know what you?re talking about lol
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Quote from: Lazarus on November 13, 2017, 05:48:36 PM
Quote from: ChillOut on November 13, 2017, 05:46:57 PM
What mainstream hits does Monica have besides the boy is mine and For you I will :kii:
Angel of Mine
The First Night
Don't Take It Personal
Before
Why I Love You
So Gone
How old are you ? :dead:
But she doesn't have more hits than Aaliyah
Are You That Somebody
Try Again
Rock the Boat
More Than A Woman
We Need A Resolution
The One I Gave My Heart To
Back And Forth
One In A Million
Monica was more an urban artist, her music never truly crossover like Brandy and Aaliyah did. The latter even had successful films and Brandy hit TV shows.
We Need A Resolution wasn't a hit. :dead:
Where is the acting, beauty and rapping category though?
Make those malc
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Now what else is up
Quote from: XXX. on November 13, 2017, 06:41:14 PM
Someone make one with Mariah, Whitney, Janet & Madonna. ACK!
Now, that's hard.
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Mariah does not perform better than Whitney
Quote from: Lazarus on November 13, 2017, 06:58:27 PM
Quote from: XXX. on November 13, 2017, 06:41:14 PM
Someone make one with Mariah, Whitney, Janet & Madonna. ACK!
Now, that's hard.
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Whitney should be higher on performance, and acclaim
Mariah should be last on performance and fashion
who is making these? :dead:
they way whitney is on the far left for the first one
then SCOOCHES all the way to the right for all the others has me two-stepping in place
Janet's videography >
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Quote from: XXX. on November 13, 2017, 06:41:14 PM
Someone make one with Mariah, Whitney, Janet & Madonna. ACK!
Now, that's hard.
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OMG!
Who is making these? :omf:
Let me try to do this one.
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who is making these? :dead:
This account
https://mobile.twitter.com/bantuthots/status/929448846144438272
Quote from: Lazarus on November 13, 2017, 06:58:27 PM
Quote from: XXX. on November 13, 2017, 06:41:14 PM
Someone make one with Mariah, Whitney, Janet & Madonna. ACK!
Now, that's hard.
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Wow this one is very accurate
You know what? The Jan/MC/Mad/Whit one is too hard.
But I am literally HOLERING at Janet first in FASHION. But then I realized NONE of these women can dress. :kii:
Quote from: Lazarus on November 13, 2017, 06:58:27 PM
Quote from: XXX. on November 13, 2017, 06:41:14 PM
Someone make one with Mariah, Whitney, Janet & Madonna. ACK!
Now, that's hard.
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It's all pretty accurate except Discography
Madonna's catalog >>> All of them
Quote from: XXX. on November 13, 2017, 07:14:56 PM
You know what? The Jan/MC/Mad/Whit one is too hard.
But I am literally HOLERING at Janet first in FASHION. But then I realized NONE of these women can dress. :kii:
I literally was thinking the same thing :dead:
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Janet & Mariah's music >
Janet was kinda a fashion icon
A lot of her stuff was cute back then
wow yeah Madge's discography >>>>>>>>>>>
Kaeli's age is showing
Quote from: Lazarus on November 13, 2017, 06:58:27 PM
Quote from: XXX. on November 13, 2017, 06:41:14 PM
Someone make one with Mariah, Whitney, Janet & Madonna. ACK!
Now, that's hard.
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Whitney should be higher on performance, and acclaim
Mariah should be last on performance and fashion
Yeah Mariah > Whit
And that's that :letsmessfag: :cheerup:(https://i.imgur.com/LHvR5T7.png)
Those were urban hits, Monica has never really been a mainstream artist. Chick is out acting like a insta model these days.
Quote from: ChillOut on November 13, 2017, 07:40:35 PM
Those were urban hits, Monica has never really been a mainstream artist. Chick is out acting like a insta model these days.
Hot 100
Days No. 2
Before No. 7
Why No. 9
For You I Will No. 4
TBIM No. 1
TFN No. 1
Angel No. 1
So Gone No. 10
:dead:
Damn, Mon has 8 Top 10s? :dead:
Quote from: Lazarus on November 13, 2017, 07:45:21 PM
Quote from: ChillOut on November 13, 2017, 07:40:35 PM
Those were urban hits, Monica has never really been a mainstream artist. Chick is out acting like a insta model these days.
Hot 100
Days No. 2
Before No. 7
Why No. 9
For You I Will No. 4
TBIM No. 1
TFN No. 1
Angel No. 1
So Gone No. 10
:dead:
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I want whoever is behind that account dead tbh
Quote from: Lazarus on November 13, 2017, 05:48:36 PM
Quote from: ChillOut on November 13, 2017, 05:46:57 PM
What mainstream hits does Monica have besides the boy is mine and For you I will :kii:
Angel of Mine
The First Night
Don't Take It Personal
Before
Why I Love You
So Gone
How old are you ? :dead:
I swear folks be typing just to BE typing. :dead:
FYI, anything that Top 40 or above is consider crossover or mainstream hit
Quote from: ChillOut on November 13, 2017, 06:36:32 PM
Quote from: Lazarus on November 13, 2017, 05:48:36 PM
Quote from: ChillOut on November 13, 2017, 05:46:57 PM
What mainstream hits does Monica have besides the boy is mine and For you I will :kii:
Angel of Mine
The First Night
Don't Take It Personal
Before
Why I Love You
So Gone
How old are you ? :dead:
But she doesn't have more hits than Aaliyah
Are You That Somebody
Try Again
Rock the Boat
More Than A Woman
We Need A Resolution
The One I Gave My Heart To
Back And Forth
One In A Million
Monica was more an urban artist, her music never truly crossover like Brandy and Aaliyah did. The latter even had successful films and Brandy hit TV shows.
She actually DOES have more hits than her.
Peak positions!
Nobody remembers these random ass songs from the 90s :dead: not unless you're pushing 40
Quote from: Lazarus on November 13, 2017, 07:45:21 PM
Quote from: ChillOut on November 13, 2017, 07:40:35 PM
Those were urban hits, Monica has never really been a mainstream artist. Chick is out acting like a insta model these days.
Hot 100
Days No. 2
Before No. 7
Why No. 9
For You I Will No. 4
TBIM No. 1
TFN No. 1
Angel No. 1
So Gone No. 10
:dead:
oh wow
It's weird that she hasn't released a
Greatest Hits album yet
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Oh wow
Mariah catalog is kinda = with Madge.
Quote from: OwnIt on November 13, 2017, 07:56:42 PM
Peak positions!
Nobody remembers these random ass songs from the 90s :dead: not unless you're pushing 40
Weren?t you hollering that songs need to have certifications? n
Most of those do
And Ciara doesn?t have any solo hits and won?t ever do an area tour headlining or supporting.
Quote me nigga
And her daughter is dead
Yeah nobody remembers anything from her because she was boring and never stood out
Lol!
Quote from: XXX. on November 13, 2017, 04:36:29 PM
Ya'll know I had to be EXTRA!
For me it's.....
Performance
1. Beyonc?
No one is even close. The performer of her generation. Her performances are anticipated and an event no matter the occasion. Old school showmanship mixed with her own unique gift. Larger than life stage presence. Often called the "female MJ". Beyonc? is the BAR for performance male or female.
2. GaGa
3. Rihanna
4. Taylor
Writing
1. Lady GaGa
She is the best writer here and has proven to be able to write great songs across different genres and styles.
2. Taylor Swift
3. Beyonc?
4. Rihanna
HITS
1. Rihanna
No contest. Rihanna can literally breathe and it's bound to chart Top 20 if not Top 10. She has a good ear for hits. And 12 years in, Rihanna seems to know what works for her and what doesn't. Out of everyone here, she has the X-Factor for making a hit record. There's just something about her voice and overall tone that is Pop music Gold whether it's Urban leaning or Top 40. Her voice makes the record catchy and gives it that thing. Rihanna will probably have over 50 Top 10's by the time her career is finished.
2. Beyonc?
3. Taylor Swift (Has about 5 more Top 10's than Beyonce, but are her hits memorable or impactful?)
4. Lady GaGa (Her Super Bowl set felt like a trip down memory lane that stopped 10 years ago.)
DISCOGRAPHY
1. Beyonc?
She makes the best albums out of this bunch. Even if they aren't perfect, her catalog is the strongest here. A lot of the girls know her album tracks just as much as they do the singles. The 2nd half of her career moved to creating "full bodies of work" as opposed to "hit singles" and she's benefitted from that tremendously. Her Metacritic scores are also the highest of the 4.
2. Rihanna
3. Lady GaGa
4. Taylor Swift
FASHION
1. Rihanna
She's very hit or miss (mostly miss) now, but Rihanna had all the girls wanting to EDGE IT UP from 2007-2010. Her style is always young, fresh, forward... and she's a risk taker. Her street style is legendary, and the girls kind of use her name with the word "fashion" synonymously. Fashion houses gag and adore her. And all want her in their clothes. She has a respect for it, and she takes it seriously. No...contest!
2. Lady GaGa
3. Beyonc?
4. Taylor Swift
ACCLAIM
1. Beyonc?
Even if she loses Album Of The Year for a 4th time, she's the most acclaimed. 22 Grammys. The highest metacritic score of these 4. And just last year, "Formation" became the most awarded song EVER! Think pieces and college courses pop up left and right to study Beyonc? and her work. She's respected by her peers and mostly all of the legends before her. Her name has become synonymous with "perfection" and "greatness". ...."You have the same 24 hours in the day as Beyonc?!"...."Would Would Beyonc? Do?".....
She's the GOAT of her generation.
2. Taylor Swift
3. Rihanna
4. Lady GaGa (I would have put GaGa over Rihanna a few years ago, but she fell off...HARD!)
VIDEOGRAPHY
1. Beyonce
Visually, I haven't seen any of the girls here do anything as strong conceptually as Lemonade. Ever since Todd Tourso left GaGa and became Beyonc?'s creative director, she's been untouchable in that area.
2. Rihanna
3. Lady GaGa
4. Taylor Swift
VOCALS
1. Beyonce
I mean... Please!
2. Rihanna
3. Lady GaGa
4. Taylor Swift
agreed
I think Rih makes better albums but I can live with this
U booked
A few things for sure..
No one sings or performs better than Bey.. period
And no one makes a hit or dresses like Rih!
Quote from: Baph al Mana. on November 13, 2017, 05:03:55 PM
:guys: Cody..... gaga SINGS circles around Rih (who isnt even all that good of a singer to begin with).
But I just prefer Rih's "singing" over whatever Gaga does cause I dont use Gaga live at ALL.
circles!Plea
[youtube autoplay=1 start=60]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flTYLeTlPRg[/youtube]
Not even entertaining this BAM and Ashanti one :dead:
Why so?
Because we?re here :dead:
On a brandy board
QuoteVisually, I haven't seen any of the girls here do anything as strong conceptually as Lemonade. Ever since Todd Tourso left GaGa and became Beyonc?'s creative director, she's been untouchable in that area.
Excuse me?
:omgwatshappening:
Did Bey snag him right after their collab? U know what sssssdd
Quote from: 1RIG on November 13, 2017, 08:32:30 PM
QuoteVisually, I haven't seen any of the girls here do anything as strong conceptually as Lemonade. Ever since Todd Tourso left GaGa and became Beyonc?'s creative director, she's been untouchable in that area.
Excuse me?
:omgwatshappening:
Did Bey snag him right after their collab? U know what sssssdd
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You know, a lot of people that worked for Haus Of GaGa ended up quitting.
Todd did an interview saying it was too much at one point. And that GaGa started getting ridiculous. They'd work a week straight on a dress made out of paperclips, and then at 3am they'd get a text like, "We need a couture gown made of lightbulbs and butterfly wings."
And he just had ENOUGH! :kii:
Quote from: XXX. on November 13, 2017, 08:45:31 PM
Quote from: 1RIG on November 13, 2017, 08:32:30 PM
QuoteVisually, I haven't seen any of the girls here do anything as strong conceptually as Lemonade. Ever since Todd Tourso left GaGa and became Beyonc?'s creative director, she's been untouchable in that area.
Excuse me?
:omgwatshappening:
Did Bey snag him right after their collab? U know what sssssdd
JDJJFDNFNjjjjjjjjjj
You know, a lot of people that worked for Haus Of GaGa ended up quitting.
Todd did an interview saying it was too much at one point. And that GaGa started getting ridiculous. They'd work a week straight on a dress made out of paperclips, and then at 3am they'd get a text like, "We need a couture gown made of lightbulbs and butterfly wings."
And he just had ENOUGH! :kii:
:plzstop: :plzstop:
i believe it. i guess thats why she's trying to give Normal girl! humble! now. and i agree with the ENTIRETY of ur
rankings and why
as soon as several KEY people that helped make Gaga who she is left her team, she become lost and ultimately became trash.
she's the textbook definition of manufactured. it was never authentic.
love her first album though!
:scrumptious:
Quote from: Baph al Mana. on November 13, 2017, 05:03:55 PM
:guys: Cody..... gaga SINGS circles around Rih (who isnt even all that good of a singer to begin with).
But I just prefer Rih's "singing" over whatever Gaga does cause I dont use Gaga live at ALL.
i didnt know so many people didnt use gags live performing
that bitch MOVES me, seriously
those itunes performances were some of the best live performances ive ever seen
woo, lemme stan out for ex queens
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wuYQ_z7uos
:gorlonfire: :gorlonfire: :gorlonfire: :gorlonfire: :gorlonfire: :gorlonfire: :gorlonfire: :gorlonfire: :gorlonfire:
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now aaliyah had amazing videos
but performance ?
Quote from: MARS. on November 13, 2017, 05:49:56 PM
Whew I?m ready to fight lol!
nmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
she so damn overrated. she was the best dancer
it seems they put the dancer in the performer slots on these
but Aaliyah was a mess live
how tha fck is gags beatin bey in performance?
bey is literally tha queens of live perf' t'day
Quote from: Lazarus on November 13, 2017, 05:24:14 PM
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i can get wit this
Quote from: Amor (x tres) on November 13, 2017, 08:23:34 PM
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In your dreams gorl
Mariah's DEF' shits on Janets weak and dated mess (that no one plays anymore). and has WAYYYYYYYYYY more hits.
Quote from: 1RIG on November 13, 2017, 08:32:30 PM
QuoteVisually, I haven't seen any of the girls here do anything as strong conceptually as Lemonade. Ever since Todd Tourso left GaGa and became Beyonc?'s creative director, she's been untouchable in that area.
Excuse me?
:omgwatshappening:
Did Bey snag him right after their collab? U know what sssssdd
vbbb
Always stealing
Quote from: XXX. on November 13, 2017, 08:45:31 PM
Quote from: 1RIG on November 13, 2017, 08:32:30 PM
QuoteVisually, I haven't seen any of the girls here do anything as strong conceptually as Lemonade. Ever since Todd Tourso left GaGa and became Beyonc?'s creative director, she's been untouchable in that area.
Excuse me?
:omgwatshappening:
Did Bey snag him right after their collab? U know what sssssdd
JDJJFDNFNjjjjjjjjjj
You know, a lot of people that worked for Haus Of GaGa ended up quitting.
Todd did an interview saying it was too much at one point. And that GaGa started getting ridiculous. They'd work a week straight on a dress made out of paperclips, and then at 3am they'd get a text like, "We need a couture gown made of lightbulbs and butterfly wings."
And he just had ENOUGH! :kii:
iim crying
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Not Mon being dead last in EVERYTHING
Quote from: 1RIG on November 13, 2017, 09:03:16 PM
Quote from: XXX. on November 13, 2017, 08:45:31 PM
Quote from: 1RIG on November 13, 2017, 08:32:30 PM
QuoteVisually, I haven't seen any of the girls here do anything as strong conceptually as Lemonade. Ever since Todd Tourso left GaGa and became Beyonc?'s creative director, she's been untouchable in that area.
Excuse me?
:omgwatshappening:
Did Bey snag him right after their collab? U know what sssssdd
JDJJFDNFNjjjjjjjjjj
You know, a lot of people that worked for Haus Of GaGa ended up quitting.
Todd did an interview saying it was too much at one point. And that GaGa started getting ridiculous. They'd work a week straight on a dress made out of paperclips, and then at 3am they'd get a text like, "We need a couture gown made of lightbulbs and butterfly wings."
And he just had ENOUGH! :kii:
:plzstop: :plzstop:
i believe it. i guess thats why she's trying to give Normal girl! humble! now. and i agree with the ENTIRETY of ur
rankings and why
Really? OMG! :gorlonfire:
I didn't even know anyone read it. I kinda typed a novel! :gorlonfire:
Our taste is kinda....ELITE! lolz!
:sistas:
Quote from: Trey on November 13, 2017, 09:44:23 PM
Not Mon being dead last in EVERYTHING
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Quote from: Baph al Mana. on November 13, 2017, 09:37:48 PM
Mariah's DEF' shits on Janets weak and dated mess (that no one plays anymore). and has WAYYYYYYYYYY more hits.
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Crazy part is Monica actually has the most hits out of them all :dead:
Quote from: XXX. on November 13, 2017, 09:45:33 PM
Quote from: 1RIG on November 13, 2017, 09:03:16 PM
Quote from: XXX. on November 13, 2017, 08:45:31 PM
Quote from: 1RIG on November 13, 2017, 08:32:30 PM
QuoteVisually, I haven't seen any of the girls here do anything as strong conceptually as Lemonade. Ever since Todd Tourso left GaGa and became Beyonc?'s creative director, she's been untouchable in that area.
Excuse me?
:omgwatshappening:
Did Bey snag him right after their collab? U know what sssssdd
JDJJFDNFNjjjjjjjjjj
You know, a lot of people that worked for Haus Of GaGa ended up quitting.
Todd did an interview saying it was too much at one point. And that GaGa started getting ridiculous. They'd work a week straight on a dress made out of paperclips, and then at 3am they'd get a text like, "We need a couture gown made of lightbulbs and butterfly wings."
And he just had ENOUGH! :kii:
:plzstop: :plzstop:
i believe it. i guess thats why she's trying to give Normal girl! humble! now. and i agree with the ENTIRETY of ur
rankings and why
Really? OMG! :gorlonfire:
I didn't even know anyone read it. I kinda typed a novel! :gorlonfire:
Our taste is kinda....ELITE! lolz!
:sistas:
dxdsddfdd this rolling stone ass post. u slayed
:sup:
Quote from: 1RIG on November 13, 2017, 10:19:37 PM
Quote from: XXX. on November 13, 2017, 09:45:33 PM
Quote from: 1RIG on November 13, 2017, 09:03:16 PM
Quote from: XXX. on November 13, 2017, 08:45:31 PM
Quote from: 1RIG on November 13, 2017, 08:32:30 PM
QuoteVisually, I haven't seen any of the girls here do anything as strong conceptually as Lemonade. Ever since Todd Tourso left GaGa and became Beyonc?'s creative director, she's been untouchable in that area.
Excuse me?
:omgwatshappening:
Did Bey snag him right after their collab? U know what sssssdd
JDJJFDNFNjjjjjjjjjj
You know, a lot of people that worked for Haus Of GaGa ended up quitting.
Todd did an interview saying it was too much at one point. And that GaGa started getting ridiculous. They'd work a week straight on a dress made out of paperclips, and then at 3am they'd get a text like, "We need a couture gown made of lightbulbs and butterfly wings."
And he just had ENOUGH! :kii:
:plzstop: :plzstop:
i believe it. i guess thats why she's trying to give Normal girl! humble! now. and i agree with the ENTIRETY of ur
rankings and why
Really? OMG! :gorlonfire:
I didn't even know anyone read it. I kinda typed a novel! :gorlonfire:
Our taste is kinda....ELITE! lolz!
:sistas:
dxdsddfdd this rolling stone ass post. u slayed
:sup:
:stressed:
Quote from: ORORO MUNROE-UDAKU on November 13, 2017, 09:50:30 PM
Crazy part is Monica actually has the most hits out of them all :dead:
:dead:
Quote from: Pearls on November 13, 2017, 09:23:20 PM
Quote from: LORD GRAND SUPREME PRIME CELESTIAL MARSHALL on November 13, 2017, 09:14:08 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wuYQ_z7uos
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these spanish subtitles are sending me for some reason
What white fag made this?
Quote from: XXX. on November 13, 2017, 03:25:53 PM
Guys, I'm not even a Rih, but I'm kinda FUMING at ya'll saying GaGa sings better than her.
:uhh:
She does baby
:guys:
Quote from: Drais. on November 14, 2017, 09:10:00 AM
Quote from: XXX. on November 13, 2017, 03:25:53 PM
Guys, I'm not even a Rih, but I'm kinda FUMING at ya'll saying GaGa sings better than her.
:uhh:
She does baby
:guys:
The way everyone lashed me down for this post.
I honestly had no idea the girls went up for a Ga vocal. :guys:
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