THat's what I originally said to myself as I watched this recent episode of EMPIRE. Amazed.
Then I thought, wait, it HAS been mainstream recently ^o) ^o) ^o) so what's the difference here?
Oh yeah! We're actually involved and paid for it. that's it. hehe :cheerup:
book! :receipts:
rap/hip-hop type urban has consistently been mainstream
its R&B that struggling
Quote from: ........ on October 15, 2015, 12:57:19 AM
rap/hip-hop type urban has consistently been mainstream
its R&B that struggling
"Earned It" was a huge hit this year. A R&B song.
Quote from: iman on October 15, 2015, 01:00:14 AM
Quote from: ........ on October 15, 2015, 12:57:19 AM
rap/hip-hop type urban has consistently been mainstream
its R&B that struggling
"Earned It" was a huge hit this year. A R&B song.
so one song was a hit
is that supposed to mean R&B isnt struggling?
i will fck all 3 of u up
n i means tht
v
R&B is struggling for certain artists, I guess. but the #1 song in the country is a R&B song by a R&B artist.
truthfully Hip Hop hasn't had a problem.
It's the R&B that's not infused with some Hip Hop mess that hasn't been getting it's just due, but I like to think it's because it's become stagnant a bit.
There was a while when Trey Songz type sex music just cluttered R&B, but now I feel with the Weeknd, Jhene, Kelela, Miguel etc., there's more variety coming in again
Earned it doesn't give me REAL rythym and blues, no shade.
But he is booking.
Other than that, R&B is the one most definitely struggling
I think a lot of people are still in the mindset that the soulful, sangin' R&B is all that matters. It's okay to admit that sound won't comeback. Sor'. It just won't unless you're fat and white then you will get spins on AC, Pop and even Rhythmic. If you're black, you're stuck with Urban AC. That's why so many are leaning more towards Hip-Hop now and getting rap artists to feature.
There's a new wave; Weeknd, Drake's sound, Kelela is coming through with her sound too.
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Quote from: Young on October 15, 2015, 01:18:36 AM
Earned it doesn't give me REAL rythym and blues, no shade.
Why are you lying? :uhh:
Everything about that song is R&B.
The tempo, lyrics, vocals, production.
He slayed with no feature.
Quote from: iman on October 15, 2015, 01:18:45 AM
I think a lot of people are still in the mindset that the soulful, sangin' R&B is all that matters. It's okay to admit that sound won't comeback. Sor'. It just won't unless you're fat and white then you will get spins on AC, Pop and even Rhythmic. If you're black, you're stuck with Urban AC. That's why so many are leaning more towards Hip-Hop now and getting rap artists to feature.
There's a new wave; Weeknd, Drake's sound, Kelela is coming through with her sound too.
(http://i.imgur.com/ejNsGBu.gif)
:flamebroiled:
and you guys are saying R&B is struggling simply because your faves are flops now :plzstop: no shade
Quote from: iman on October 15, 2015, 01:19:40 AM
Quote from: Young on October 15, 2015, 01:18:36 AM
Earned it doesn't give me REAL rythym and blues, no shade.
Why are you lying? :uhh:
Everything about that song is R&B.
The tempo, lyrics, vocals, production.
He slayed with no feature.
Wait sorry I was thinking of the hills
I actually love that song from 50 shades
Yeah that's R&B
It's nice that The Weeknd is slaying, but I need more R&B artist to do the same. It shouldn't be just one artist doing the slaying
drake is not real R&B
hes not evn full blck!!!
dog face faggot
fck him
weeknd tho...hes rlly bringin sumn knew
...wish he like BLACK GIRLS tho
Quote from: SCOTTland on October 15, 2015, 01:23:21 AM
It's nice that The Weeknd is slaying, but I need R&B artist to do the same. It shouldn't be just one artist doing the slaying
he's a R&B artist tho :usuresis:
Quote from: iman on October 15, 2015, 01:20:58 AM
and you guys are saying R&B is struggling simply because your faves are flops now :plzstop: no shade
n
I mean....YEAH!
ALL our faves ain't sellin like they use to. They don't get label support, they barely get spins on the radio. They get the short end of the stick
I mean if u just look at the iTunes Charts, the R&B category is almost non existent. The shade is u can be #7 on R&B and #145 on the iTunes main.
Quote from: Plankesha on October 15, 2015, 01:24:08 AM
weeknd tho...hes rlly bringin sumn knew
...wish he like BLACK GIRLS tho
illiterate self
Quote from: iman on October 15, 2015, 01:24:55 AM
Quote from: SCOTTland on October 15, 2015, 01:23:21 AM
It's nice that The Weeknd is slaying, but I need R&B artist to do the same. It shouldn't be just one artist doing the slaying
he's a R&B artist tho :usuresis:
Um, I never said he wasnt. And that was clearly a typo. I meant to say "MORE R&B artist should be slaying or whatever"
gurl fck u
get offa my neo coochie
Quote from: Young on October 15, 2015, 01:25:11 AM
Quote from: iman on October 15, 2015, 01:20:58 AM
and you guys are saying R&B is struggling simply because your faves are flops now :plzstop: no shade
n
I mean....YEAH!
ALL our faves ain't sellin like they use to. They don't get label support, they barely get spins on the radio. They get the short end of the stick
I mean if u just look at the iTunes Charts, the R&B category is almost non existent. The shade is u can be #7 on R&B and #145 on the iTunes main.
look
im jus happ' shan got her mess out wen she did
she rlly did good for a vet' female R&B gurl
its rlly hard for blck gurls especially cuz of tha racism n sexism
if u not bey or forehead u aint gettin no luv
Quote from: iman on October 15, 2015, 01:20:58 AM
and you guys are saying R&B is struggling simply because your faves are flops now :plzstop: no shade
Beyonce is shitting
so thats false tbh
but theres always a few token Blacks that slip through
John Legend went to #1 with All of Me
but we both know R&B as a whole is struggling and isnt mainstream
Quote from: Young on October 15, 2015, 01:25:11 AM
Quote from: iman on October 15, 2015, 01:20:58 AM
and you guys are saying R&B is struggling simply because your faves are flops now :plzstop: no shade
n
I mean....YEAH!
ALL our faves ain't sellin like they use to. They don't get label support, they barely get spins on the radio. They get the short end of the stick
I mean if u just look at the iTunes Charts, the R&B category is almost non existent. The shade is u can be #7 on R&B and #145 on the iTunes main.
You make a good point. It's sad but I'm used to it now. It's like the same formula every time. Make them release boring R&B songs, send it to Urban AC, release the album, whew! done :uhh:
but I have to put some blame on the R&B artists as well. Feels like a lot of them are comfortable where they are. Why not change the sound, release a different way, etc.
Quote from: ........ on October 15, 2015, 01:29:13 AM
Quote from: iman on October 15, 2015, 01:20:58 AM
and you guys are saying R&B is struggling simply because your faves are flops now :plzstop: no shade
Beyonce is shitting
so thats false tbh
but theres always a few token Blacks that slip through
John Legend went to #1 with All of Me
but we both know R&B as a whole is struggling and isnt mainstream
s
now ray, Bey is a Pop star at most, I wouldn't group her with the other struggling R&B artists.
John established himself with the AC audience so it was easy for him to get that #1 but keep in mind his album didn't sell as well as that single did.
Quote from: Plankesha on October 15, 2015, 01:28:42 AM
Quote from: Young on October 15, 2015, 01:25:11 AM
Quote from: iman on October 15, 2015, 01:20:58 AM
and you guys are saying R&B is struggling simply because your faves are flops now :plzstop: no shade
n
I mean....YEAH!
ALL our faves ain't sellin like they use to. They don't get label support, they barely get spins on the radio. They get the short end of the stick
I mean if u just look at the iTunes Charts, the R&B category is almost non existent. The shade is u can be #7 on R&B and #145 on the iTunes main.
look
im jus happ' shan got her mess out wen she did
she rlly did good for a vet' female R&B gurl
its rlly hard for blck gurls especially cuz of tha racism n sexism
if u not bey or forehead u aint gettin no luv
I still spin "scars" :stressed:
Quote from: iman on October 15, 2015, 01:29:30 AM
Quote from: Young on October 15, 2015, 01:25:11 AM
Quote from: iman on October 15, 2015, 01:20:58 AM
and you guys are saying R&B is struggling simply because your faves are flops now :plzstop: no shade
n
I mean....YEAH!
ALL our faves ain't sellin like they use to. They don't get label support, they barely get spins on the radio. They get the short end of the stick
I mean if u just look at the iTunes Charts, the R&B category is almost non existent. The shade is u can be #7 on R&B and #145 on the iTunes main.
You make a good point. It's sad but I'm used to it now. It's like the same formula every time. Make them release boring R&B songs, send it to Urban AC, release the album, whew! done :uhh:
but I have to put some blame on the R&B artists as well. Feels like a lot of them are comfortable where they are. Why not change the sound, release a different way, etc.
I definitely agree with that. They have to find a way to be hot/current/ and still have a progressive sound, while being true to R&B.
I think that's why I love "Earned It"
Quote from: iman on October 15, 2015, 01:30:51 AM
Quote from: ........ on October 15, 2015, 01:29:13 AM
Quote from: iman on October 15, 2015, 01:20:58 AM
and you guys are saying R&B is struggling simply because your faves are flops now :plzstop: no shade
Beyonce is shitting
so thats false tbh
but theres always a few token Blacks that slip through
John Legend went to #1 with All of Me
but we both know R&B as a whole is struggling and isnt mainstream
s
now ray, Bey is a Pop star at most, I wouldn't group her with the other struggling R&B artists.
John established himself with the AC audience so it was easy for him to get that #1 but keep in mind his album didn't sell as well as that single did.
if Bey is Pop, so is Weeknd
and exactly about John, he slipped in with a #1
but no one was buying a FULL R&B album
Quote from: Young on October 15, 2015, 01:32:27 AM
Quote from: iman on October 15, 2015, 01:29:30 AM
Quote from: Young on October 15, 2015, 01:25:11 AM
Quote from: iman on October 15, 2015, 01:20:58 AM
and you guys are saying R&B is struggling simply because your faves are flops now :plzstop: no shade
n
I mean....YEAH!
ALL our faves ain't sellin like they use to. They don't get label support, they barely get spins on the radio. They get the short end of the stick
I mean if u just look at the iTunes Charts, the R&B category is almost non existent. The shade is u can be #7 on R&B and #145 on the iTunes main.
You make a good point. It's sad but I'm used to it now. It's like the same formula every time. Make them release boring R&B songs, send it to Urban AC, release the album, whew! done :uhh:
but I have to put some blame on the R&B artists as well. Feels like a lot of them are comfortable where they are. Why not change the sound, release a different way, etc.
I definitely agree with that. They have to find a way to be hot/current/ and still have a progressive sound, while being true to R&B.
I think that's why I love "Earned It"
!!! and a lot of them don't even have to switch it up that much. They can easily just find a producer to add an edgy spin to their established sound. Switch up how they sing, etc. :loose2when:
rebranding rebranding rebranding.
That's what it comes down to with the R&B artist from the 90's n early 2000's.
and ALL artist should listen to radio. Not to hop on whats hot but to see how they can push something further or make something their own.
Quote from: Baphomet. on October 15, 2015, 01:39:21 AM
rebranding rebranding rebranding.
That's what it comes down to with the R&B artist from the 90's n early 2000's.
and ALL artist should listen to radio. Not to hop on whats hot but to see how they can push something further or make something their own.
I see what you mean.
I remember when I really first fell in love GODni ..... in high school
HWME :stressed: :stressed:
everyone was HOPPING on darkchild beats
but no one did it like ha
In 2010-2011, an R&B artist was lucky to see Gold. Now you're lucky to even push 300k, 400k at the most
So Glad Quee' Mo has a gold album this decade
Lolz
Quote from: SCOTTland on October 15, 2015, 01:45:47 AM
In 2010-2011, an R&B artist was lucky to see Gold. Now you're lucky to even push 300k, 400k at the most
:feelinmyself:
Quote from: iman on October 15, 2015, 01:00:14 AM
Quote from: ........ on October 15, 2015, 12:57:19 AM
rap/hip-hop type urban has consistently been mainstream
its R&B that struggling
"Earned It" was a huge hit this year. A R&B song.
That song isn't purely R&B. & i think it's female R&B/hip hop that's taken a hit.
I remember when all of our gorls were dominating the charts at one point. But I feel like now the industry is more misogynistic than ever.
http://www.mediabase.com/mmrweb/radiofacts/Charts.asp?format=U1R
it's kinda disgusting how there are only 3 females in the top 30
& two of them have male features :ohwow:
Quote from: Plankesha on October 15, 2015, 01:23:30 AM
drake is not real R&B
hes not evn full blck!!!
And you're not a real fckin womuh
Never fucking will be LMAO
:feelinmyself: