Mathew Knowles Reveals Colorism Led Him To Date Ex-Wife Tina Knowles: 'I Actually Thought ... She Was White'
https://www.instagram.com/p/BercAMUlCzn
In a recent interview promoting his new book on race, Racism: From the Eyes of A Child, Mathew Knowles he revealed that it was colorism that led him to date his ex-wife, Tina Knowles.
Beyonc? and Solange Knowles' dad admitted in an interview with Ebony that colorism was taught to him from an early age by both by his family and community.
"When I was growing up, my mother used to say, 'Don?t ever bring no nappy-head black girl to my house,'" Knowles said. "In the deep South in the ?50s, ?60s and ?70s, the shade of your blackness was considered important. So I, unfortunately, grew up hearing that message."
Things weren't much different when Knowles, a professor at Texas Southern University, went to university. He spent the first half of his college career at a mostly white institution before transferring to the historically black college and university of Fisk University in 1972.
But even at Fisk, once again, he was reminded of the implications of light and dark skin.
"They had a colorism issue there," Knowles said. "I was in the last class where they?d take out a brown paper bag, and if you were darker than the bag, you could not get into Fisk."
Knowles went on to add that he developed "eroticized rage," after having internalized those messages.
"One day I had a breakthrough," Knowles said. "I used to date mainly white women or very high-complexion black women that looked white... I had been conditioned from childhood. Within eroticized rage, there was actual rage in me as a black man, and I saw the white female as a way, subconsciously, of getting even or getting back."
This is even what led to him to date Tina Knowles, whom he first thought was white, he explained.
"I actually thought when I met Tina, my former wife, that she was white. Later I found out that she wasn?t, and she was actually very much in-tune with her blackness," he said.
Knowles added that although he has worked through his issues with colorism through "therapy and sharing," the world has yet to catch up.
"I challenge my students at Texas Southern to think about this," Knowles said. "When it comes to black females, who are the people who get their music played on pop radio? Mariah Carey, Rihanna, the female rapper Nicki Minaj, my kids, and what do they all have in common?"
The interviewer, Jessica Bennett, answered his question by saying, "They?re all lighter skinned."
"So you get it!" Knowles said.
https://blavity.com/matthew-knowles-reveals-colorism-led-him-to-date-ex-wife-tina-knowles-i-actually-thought-she-was-white
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://www.ebony.com/entertainment-culture/books/exclusive-mathew-knowles
wow he really is a disgusting through and through huh
I always give him the benefit of the doubt but.
:melmel:
Quote from: BowDown on February 01, 2018, 11:10:36 PM
I always give him the benefit of the doubt but.
:melmel:
im sure u do racist
s
But wow so sad how people are conditioned as children
So he did make those other girls tan huh
Quote from: Kaeli. on February 01, 2018, 11:11:10 PM
Quote from: BowDown on February 01, 2018, 11:10:36 PM
I always give him the benefit of the doubt but.
:melmel:
im sure u do racist
Good evening Kaeli.
(http://i.imgur.com/Wu1LiGK.gif)
He?s blunt as FUCK :uhh:
The way he?s dragging his group member like this :plzstop:
https://instagram.com/p/BeqEWmTHgMH/
Quote from: L0NZ. on February 01, 2018, 11:12:40 PM
So he did make those other girls tan huh
aldsmkolnmkddddddddddd
This is so inspiring.
Quote from: Young on February 01, 2018, 11:16:49 PM
He?s blunt as FUCK :uhh:
The way he?s dragging his group member like this :plzstop:
https://instagram.com/p/BeqEWmTHgMH/
Your look is fucked up!MNCNFJFJFFJFFFFFFFFFF
Quote from: BowDown on February 01, 2018, 11:19:06 PM
Quote from: Young on February 01, 2018, 11:16:49 PM
He?s blunt as FUCK :uhh:
The way he?s dragging his group member like this :plzstop:
https://instagram.com/p/BeqEWmTHgMH/
Your look is fucked up!
MNCNFJFJFFJFFFFFFFFFF
Cbcbcbcbcbcbccbcccc :dead:
He couldn?t manage me ch
Unfortunately a lot of Black people have this same mindset
Quote from: M??D?? on February 01, 2018, 11:24:37 PM
Unfortunately a lot of Black people have this same mindset
sssssss
My grandmother used to say ignorant shit like that. mess
This is how I thought Rachel Dolezal got away with being "Black"
She easily could have been like "oh am Creole" even if someone questioned her ethnicity. And no one woulda even blinked. She looks Creole /Tina Knowles-ish with the puffy curls added.
sdd People wonder how she flew under the radar so long but I see it.
And sometimes AA's can just have a bit more European ancestry than normal ... I've seen plenty of Black people with two Black parents who are light as a bulb with blue eyes, etc. So I see how no one really questioned her.
(http://media.tmz.com/2017/03/01/0301-rachel-dolezal-instagram-2.jpg)
Yea Rachel and Tina are pretty much the same tone after a light tan mess sssssddd
But Matthew PLEA? :kii:
weweew
I believe him though. A lot of Creoles have more of an ambiguous look to them.
You don't see Black women who look like Tina Knowles every day. That's just being real.
Now if Jay-Z was somewhere talking about he thought 'fas was White then I'd be like :udontlookok:
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bege0w9h9-L
Quote from: Freeruu on February 01, 2018, 11:50:43 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bege0w9h9-L
nccbdhbfbfffbbffhhff
Do we have pics of younger Tina cause I don't see how u could think she is white
This is giving vonc down
As ignorant as he was I?m glad he picked Tina
:cheerup:
Now to be clear - I'm not saying I think she's White.
sdsd or ever thought she was White.
I'm just saying I see where his confusion may have come in.
Creoles are more mixed with European than usual. A lot more than the typical African-American. It's just part of their history.
Ultimately it really depends on the person who's looking guys. Some people will just see a Black person whereas someone else may ask "What are you?" "You sure you all the way Black?"
Quote from: Vonc2002 on February 01, 2018, 11:53:27 PM
Do we have pics of younger Tina cause I don't see how u could think she is white
(https://i.imgur.com/Bd2faf9.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/JtpGjig.jpg)
pppp I wonder if queen is insulted @ being compared to a white womuh :omgwatshappening:
Quote from: Freeruu on February 01, 2018, 11:57:40 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on February 01, 2018, 11:53:27 PM
Do we have pics of younger Tina cause I don't see how u could think she is white
(https://i.imgur.com/Bd2faf9.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/JtpGjig.jpg)
pppp I wonder if queen is insulted @ being compared to a white womuh :omgwatshappening:
Yea, this is a black woman right away for me
(http://www.janetcharltonshollywood.com/images/2014/05/article-2626022-1Dbeycut.jpg)
Quote from: Freeruu on February 01, 2018, 11:57:40 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on February 01, 2018, 11:53:27 PM
Do we have pics of younger Tina cause I don't see how u could think she is white
(https://i.imgur.com/Bd2faf9.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/JtpGjig.jpg)
pppp I wonder if queen is insulted @ being compared to a white womuh :omgwatshappening:
If u know what creoles look like u can tell
If ur dark and comefrom a dark family
That kind of lighskin can be white to them
I get it
I always found it interesting that Lyndriette is an actual biracial person - as in one White parent, one Black parent, whereas Beyonce doesn't even have a White grandparent or even a White great grandparent.
Yet she's her damn twin :plzstop:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CjNMdofXIAAHbbc.jpg)
The multi-generational mixing of European is strong in Beyonce's family IMO. But it's to be expected of someone with Creole ancestry.
Quote from: Afro on February 02, 2018, 12:06:03 AM
I always found it interesting that Lyndriette is an actual biracial person - as in one White parent, one Black parent, whereas Beyonce doesn't even have a White grandparent or even a White great grandparent.
Yet she's her damn twin :plzstop:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CjNMdofXIAAHbbc.jpg)
The multi-generational mixing of European is strong in Beyonce's family IMO. But it's to be expected of someone with Creole ancestry.
Im sorry i dont see bey here i see lightskin with a weave
Let me just
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35xwrQMkpg8
:caseoftheherp:
He's not wrong at all.
In Louisiana and Texas a lot of creole ppl can pass for white, but they identify as black.
Quote from: Vonc2002 on February 01, 2018, 11:59:14 PM
Quote from: Freeruu on February 01, 2018, 11:57:40 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on February 01, 2018, 11:53:27 PM
Do we have pics of younger Tina cause I don't see how u could think she is white
(https://i.imgur.com/Bd2faf9.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/JtpGjig.jpg)
pppp I wonder if queen is insulted @ being compared to a white womuh :omgwatshappening:
Yea, this is a black woman right away for me
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"yup! black"
se,fsef
Quote from: TheNextLew on February 02, 2018, 12:08:05 AM
Quote from: Afro on February 02, 2018, 12:06:03 AM
I always found it interesting that Lyndriette is an actual biracial person - as in one White parent, one Black parent, whereas Beyonce doesn't even have a White grandparent or even a White great grandparent.
Yet she's her damn twin :plzstop:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CjNMdofXIAAHbbc.jpg)
The multi-generational mixing of European is strong in Beyonce's family IMO. But it's to be expected of someone with Creole ancestry.
Im sorry i dont see bey here i see lightskin with a weave
Time to bring out one of my favorite toys again... :cheerup:
(https://i.imgur.com/absmjoT.jpg)
Quote from: Wild Bitch on February 02, 2018, 12:02:23 AM
(http://www.janetcharltonshollywood.com/images/2014/05/article-2626022-1Dbeycut.jpg)
I guess I see it more here but I still think I would assume black but of mixed heritage
Quote from: Mistress Marie Laveau on February 01, 2018, 11:18:05 PM
Quote from: L0NZ. on February 01, 2018, 11:12:40 PM
So he did make those other girls tan huh
aldsmkolnmkddddddddddd
Dffc
Not him sending them to the tanning salon while Bey was in the studio.
Quote from: squid on February 02, 2018, 12:14:28 AM
Quote from: Mistress Marie Laveau on February 01, 2018, 11:18:05 PM
Quote from: L0NZ. on February 01, 2018, 11:12:40 PM
So he did make those other girls tan huh
aldsmkolnmkddddddddddd
Dffc
Not him sending them to the tanning salon while Bey was in the studio.
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Quote from: Vonc2002 on February 02, 2018, 12:13:56 AM
Quote from: Wild Bitch on February 02, 2018, 12:02:23 AM
(http://www.janetcharltonshollywood.com/images/2014/05/article-2626022-1Dbeycut.jpg)
I guess I see it more here but I still think I would assume black but of mixed heritage
!!!!!!
It's not far fetched. Especially when you factor in how she looked back then.
I see he's trying to profit off the black pride wave. Not a fckn book by Beyonc?'s dad. I hope people see through his bullshit.
Sister Sister
(https://www.famousbirthdays.com/faces/lyndriette-smith-kristal-image.jpg)
(https://uploadir.com/u/ygb9vmfa)
snbsd
sd
Gor u know the gorls thought Lyndriette was a bvy Bey.
back when she was actually in shape and slaying a bit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMv1sqz62qY
lets not act brand new
(https://uploadir.com/u/ygb9vmfa)
Quote from: Afro on February 02, 2018, 12:13:39 AM
Quote from: TheNextLew on February 02, 2018, 12:08:05 AM
Quote from: Afro on February 02, 2018, 12:06:03 AM
I always found it interesting that Lyndriette is an actual biracial person - as in one White parent, one Black parent, whereas Beyonce doesn't even have a White grandparent or even a White great grandparent.
Yet she's her damn twin :plzstop:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CjNMdofXIAAHbbc.jpg)
The multi-generational mixing of European is strong in Beyonce's family IMO. But it's to be expected of someone with Creole ancestry.
Im sorry i dont see bey here i see lightskin with a weave
Time to bring out one of my favorite toys again... :cheerup:
(https://i.imgur.com/absmjoT.jpg)
the jennifer freeman is more accurate lol
and lynn looks trans here
pk]oj[hipugyf;tdlrsx
(https://i.imgur.com/EaGZ6BD.png)
you know what
Quote from: Young on February 01, 2018, 11:19:44 PM
Quote from: BowDown on February 01, 2018, 11:19:06 PM
Quote from: Young on February 01, 2018, 11:16:49 PM
He?s blunt as FUCK :uhh:
The way he?s dragging his group member like this :plzstop:
https://instagram.com/p/BeqEWmTHgMH/
Your look is fucked up!
MNCNFJFJFFJFFFFFFFFFF
Cbcbcbcbcbcbccbcccc :dead:
He couldn?t manage me ch
gxbnn
?Yew just hanging out shit?
Quote from: Freeruu on February 02, 2018, 12:34:47 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/EaGZ6BD.png)
you know what
Ddfggf
Not Chilli too
Quote from: Wild Bitch on February 02, 2018, 12:02:23 AM
(http://www.janetcharltonshollywood.com/images/2014/05/article-2626022-1Dbeycut.jpg)
depending on the light of the room when he met her I can see why he could?ve thought she was white
pk]0jo[9hip8ugo7y;iftuld
Matthew hun
Quote from: Vonc2002 on February 01, 2018, 11:53:27 PM
Do we have pics of younger Tina cause I don't see how u could think she is white
!!!!!
She looks mixed... but def not white.
Quote from: glock on February 02, 2018, 12:36:52 AM
Quote from: Wild Bitch on February 02, 2018, 12:02:23 AM
(http://www.janetcharltonshollywood.com/images/2014/05/article-2626022-1Dbeycut.jpg)
depending on the light of the room when he met her I can see why he could?ve thought she was white
even here, she looks spanish if anything
like
:dead:
Quote from: Afro on February 01, 2018, 11:43:17 PM
This is how I thought Rachel Dolezal got away with being "Black"
She easily could have been like "oh am Creole" even if someone questioned her ethnicity. And no one woulda even blinked. She looks Creole /Tina Knowles-ish with the puffy curls added.
sdd People wonder how she flew under the radar so long but I see it.
And sometimes AA's can just have a bit more European ancestry than normal ... I've seen plenty of Black people with two Black parents who are light as a bulb with blue eyes, etc. So I see how no one really questioned her.
(http://media.tmz.com/2017/03/01/0301-rachel-dolezal-instagram-2.jpg)
i can see why this woman got away with it for so long
:dead:
Quote from: ???? on February 02, 2018, 12:42:36 AM
Quote from: glock on February 02, 2018, 12:36:52 AM
Quote from: Wild Bitch on February 02, 2018, 12:02:23 AM
(http://www.janetcharltonshollywood.com/images/2014/05/article-2626022-1Dbeycut.jpg)
depending on the light of the room when he met her I can see why he could?ve thought she was white
even here, she looks spanish if anything
like
:dead:
Yea not WHITE!
Tina reminds me of Nicole
And I would not assume they were white
:dead:
I don't know, I just don't see it
(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/a2/75/83/a27583dd7a5dadee881bc00209b4a362--nicole-ari-parker-boogie-nights.jpg)
Quote from: Freeruu on February 02, 2018, 12:34:47 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/EaGZ6BD.png)
you know what
ssfsffsf
:woohoo:
(https://i.imgur.com/wjnBXjc.jpg?1)
Perhaps because I have so many family members who resemble them
And we are black, thanks
:ohwow:
Quote from: Afro on February 02, 2018, 12:46:56 AM
Quote from: Freeruu on February 02, 2018, 12:34:47 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/EaGZ6BD.png)
you know what
ssfsffsf
:woohoo:
(https://i.imgur.com/wjnBXjc.jpg?1)
these things are a mess
cause i get larry the most not no damn mindy
Quote from: ???? on February 02, 2018, 12:47:11 AM
Perhaps because I have so many family members who resemble them
And we are black, thanks
:ohwow:
I think that's what It might be. I have family and friends that are black and are from both ends of the color spectrum
Quote from: Freeruu on February 02, 2018, 12:34:47 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/EaGZ6BD.png)
you know what
The Carli Redd one
:plzstop:
Quote from: Vonc2002 on February 02, 2018, 12:49:15 AM
Quote from: ???? on February 02, 2018, 12:47:11 AM
Perhaps because I have so many family members who resemble them
And we are black, thanks
:ohwow:
I think that's what It might be. I have family and friends that are black and are from both ends of the color spectrum
(https://i.imgur.com/22IYMOS.png)
:guys:
Quote from: ???? on February 02, 2018, 12:46:24 AM
Tina reminds me of Nicole
And I would not assume they were white
:dead:
I don't know, I just don't see it
(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/a2/75/83/a27583dd7a5dadee881bc00209b4a362--nicole-ari-parker-boogie-nights.jpg)
i don't see white either
especially now for Tina.
but it's not far fetched that he's saying he was mistaken.
she's creole. they have a reputation for looking ambiguous.
Quote from: Afro on February 02, 2018, 12:57:46 AM
Quote from: ???? on February 02, 2018, 12:46:24 AM
Tina reminds me of Nicole
And I would not assume they were white
:dead:
I don't know, I just don't see it
(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/a2/75/83/a27583dd7a5dadee881bc00209b4a362--nicole-ari-parker-boogie-nights.jpg)
i don't see white either
especially now for Tina.
but it's not far fetched that he's saying he was mistaken.
she's creole. they have a reputation for looking ambiguous.
he is an idiot hun
im sorry
Quote from: Vonc2002 on February 02, 2018, 12:49:15 AM
Quote from: ???? on February 02, 2018, 12:47:11 AM
Perhaps because I have so many family members who resemble them
And we are black, thanks
:ohwow:
I think that's what It might be. I have family and friends that are black and are from both ends of the color spectrum
I think we all do tbh
light, brown, dark, whatever we wanna call it.
if you're African American you're gonna see more than one color in ur family.
But it goes further than skin tone with race. I thought it was just about skin tone too but people point out other things like bone structure, etc. Undertones to the skin. Things I never thought about before.
Beyonce is a light skinned Black woman to me, first time I saw her on DC covers I never questioned that. :plzstop: So it's not really about "ohhh u light skinned . u mix?"
But with race in general it goes a little further.
Quote from: TheNextLew on February 02, 2018, 12:08:05 AM
Quote from: Afro on February 02, 2018, 12:06:03 AM
I always found it interesting that Lyndriette is an actual biracial person - as in one White parent, one Black parent, whereas Beyonce doesn't even have a White grandparent or even a White great grandparent.
Yet she's her damn twin :plzstop:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CjNMdofXIAAHbbc.jpg)
The multi-generational mixing of European is strong in Beyonce's family IMO. But it's to be expected of someone with Creole ancestry.
Im sorry i dont see bey here i see lightskin with a weave
She?s Beys twin
Quote from: Afro on February 02, 2018, 12:24:45 AM
snbsd
sd
Gor u know the gorls thought Lyndriette was a bvy Bey.
back when she was actually in shape and slaying a bit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMv1sqz62qY
lets not act brand new
(https://uploadir.com/u/ygb9vmfa)
Clock these girls
Quote from: Vonc2002 on February 02, 2018, 12:13:56 AM
Quote from: Wild Bitch on February 02, 2018, 12:02:23 AM
(http://www.janetcharltonshollywood.com/images/2014/05/article-2626022-1Dbeycut.jpg)
I guess I see it more here but I still think I would assume black but of mixed heritage
!!!!
This pic convinced me. And i assume he met her when she was super young
Quote from: Freeruu on February 01, 2018, 11:57:40 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on February 01, 2018, 11:53:27 PM
Do we have pics of younger Tina cause I don't see how u could think she is white
(https://i.imgur.com/Bd2faf9.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/JtpGjig.jpg)
pppp I wonder if queen is insulted @ being compared to a white womuh :omgwatshappening:
Matthew bye
Is he blind?
Quote from: Freeruu on February 02, 2018, 12:34:47 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/EaGZ6BD.png)
you know what
CcCCCVCCCXCCV
Quote from: Afro on February 02, 2018, 12:57:46 AM
Quote from: ???? on February 02, 2018, 12:46:24 AM
Tina reminds me of Nicole
And I would not assume they were white
:dead:
I don't know, I just don't see it
(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/a2/75/83/a27583dd7a5dadee881bc00209b4a362--nicole-ari-parker-boogie-nights.jpg)
i don't see white either
especially now for Tina.
but it's not far fetched that he's saying he was mistaken.
she's creole. they have a reputation for looking ambiguous.
!!!!! I have creole in my family bloodline. My middle school principal is creole and people thought she was a white woman.
n
Ok now see
Quote from: Happily Unhappy on February 02, 2018, 03:55:59 AM
Quote from: Afro on February 02, 2018, 12:57:46 AM
Quote from: ???? on February 02, 2018, 12:46:24 AM
Tina reminds me of Nicole
And I would not assume they were white
:dead:
I don't know, I just don't see it
(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/a2/75/83/a27583dd7a5dadee881bc00209b4a362--nicole-ari-parker-boogie-nights.jpg)
i don't see white either
especially now for Tina.
but it's not far fetched that he's saying he was mistaken.
she's creole. they have a reputation for looking ambiguous.
!!!!! I have creole in my family bloodline. My middle school principal is creole and people thought she was a white woman.
:guys:
White people did a number on us. fffffff
I feel like he should?ve spoke on his chocolate kids here
She could have passed for Syrian, Italian, Turkish... which to many people is also ?white?.
;
Quote from: Poseidon on February 02, 2018, 09:11:50 AM
She could have passed for Syrian, Italian, Turkish... which to many people is also ?white?.
It's weird cause when i saw this thread i thought it was a reach but she really does look Italian and I never noticed that until just now :blink:
(http://www.bravotv.com/sites/nbcubravotv/files/styles/blog-post--mobile/public/field_blog_image/2016/05/dish-052316-dolores.jpg?itok=2LwtOZdN×tamp=1464035212)
(http://celebsiren.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/Melissa-Gorga-1.jpg)
They are completely Italian too
Quote from: Gilgamesh. on February 02, 2018, 09:20:30 AM
Quote from: Poseidon on February 02, 2018, 09:11:50 AM
She could have passed for Syrian, Italian, Turkish... which to many people is also ?white?.
It's weird cause when i saw this thread i thought it was a reach but she really does look Italian and I never noticed that until just now :blink:
It all depends on who's looking at someone.
Someone may just say "ch....how did he mistake this light skin black womuh for anything other than Black" and others may see it differently.
Also depends on how much diversity is in someone's heritage. I've found that multi-generational mixing can be just as strong on someone's appearance as a direct mix. In terms of people seeing "other" things when someone's only identified as Black their entire life.
:dead: I guess I'm true to the one drop rule because I've always seen BLACK when I look at women who teter on the edge
and I'm still not even sure these women are even "black" except Mimi :dead:
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_IieevV9ooqM/SID4FEwwIhI/AAAAAAAABOA/W1RfrUdjOfI/s400/Pebbles-Backyard-284818.jpg)
(http://media1.s-nbcnews.com/j/MSNBC/Components/Slideshows/_production/ss-090805-paula-abdul/paula-abdul-undated-young.today-ss-slide-desktop.jpg)
(https://imgix.ranker.com/user_node_img/50040/1000794943/original/young-mariah-carey-in-pink-dress-semi-closeup-photo-u1?w=650&q=50&fm=jpg&fit=crop&crop=faces)
Paula is Jewish
But I think the fact that you acknowledge and realize that they are closer to "the edge" shows that their mixing shows a bit in their phenotype.
If I see a White person who to me looks "just White", they're just White.
But then I may see another person who is White but I may wonder "hmm, she got something else up in her?" I think this is the "edge" you're referring to. Not meeting expectations 100% of what a group "should" look like.
At the end of the day they'd still be White but I think some people just see that there may be other things thrown into their heritage besides one race/group.
I'm not surprised
Alot of black people in the south are ambiguous, especially the women. The only difference is their hair isn't usually bone straight and thin.
Quote from: Freeruu on February 02, 2018, 12:34:47 AM
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you know what
Very accurate
Quote from: TheNextLew on February 02, 2018, 12:48:15 AM
Quote from: Afro on February 02, 2018, 12:46:56 AM
Quote from: Freeruu on February 02, 2018, 12:34:47 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/EaGZ6BD.png)
you know what
ssfsffsf
:woohoo:
(https://i.imgur.com/wjnBXjc.jpg?1)
these things are a mess
cause i get larry the most not no damn mindy
Ndjjdjdjrnrn
I'm gonna kick Afro's ass
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(https://i1.wp.com/insidejamarifox.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/tumblr_p0jxmyLl4K1ql5yr7o1_500.gif)
but in some of his edited photos I did actually get GODlli/Nicki vibes
there was one photo he took/edited and it was spot on to Nicki.
but on camera is a different story.
Quote from: Boomer on February 02, 2018, 11:22:40 AM
Quote from: Freeruu on February 02, 2018, 12:34:47 AM
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you know what
Very accurate
:kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii: :kii:
Quote from: LORD GRAND SUPREME PRIME CELESTIAL MARSHALL on February 02, 2018, 03:43:53 AM
Quote from: Freeruu on February 01, 2018, 11:57:40 PM
Quote from: Vonc2002 on February 01, 2018, 11:53:27 PM
Do we have pics of younger Tina cause I don't see how u could think she is white
(https://i.imgur.com/Bd2faf9.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/JtpGjig.jpg)
pppp I wonder if queen is insulted @ being compared to a white womuh :omgwatshappening:
Matthew bye
Is he blind?
!!!
I can clearly see she ain't White
:dead:
dffgfh
he said when they first met not after they got married and had 2 kids.
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i dont think its as deep as we're looking into it.
he mistook her for something she's not. it happens
Quote from: golden touch. on February 02, 2018, 09:49:00 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh. on February 02, 2018, 09:20:30 AM
Quote from: Poseidon on February 02, 2018, 09:11:50 AM
She could have passed for Syrian, Italian, Turkish... which to many people is also ?white?.
It's weird cause when i saw this thread i thought it was a reach but she really does look Italian and I never noticed that until just now :blink:
It all depends on who's looking at someone.
Someone may just say "ch....how did he mistake this light skin black womuh for anything other than Black" and others may see it differently.
Also depends on how much diversity is in someone's heritage. I've found that multi-generational mixing can be just as strong on someone's appearance as a direct mix. In terms of people seeing "other" things when someone's only identified as Black their entire life.
I think I agree more with this.
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Nah Tina looks mixed/black I don?t even see how ppl thought Mariah was all the way white back in da day let alone Tina.
Now if she was tryna give an imitation of life Tea id get it. Speaking of which was that lady really white
Quote from: golden touch. on February 02, 2018, 12:27:32 PM
nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
!!!
i dont think its as deep as we're looking into it.
he mistook her for something she's not. it happens
!
Also thought Rita Oral was mixed
Quote from: Andrais. on February 02, 2018, 12:21:36 PM
dffgfh
he said when they first met not after they got married and had 2 kids.
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The gorls so silly
Mariah is a proud black woman btw
:ohwow: my lamb senses told me she was mentioned in here.
(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/55/f3/99/55f399f59132e8025996ae953297e82e--her-hair-hair-colors.jpg)
Quote from: BENTLEY on February 02, 2018, 10:05:40 AM
:dead: I guess I'm true to the one drop rule because I've always seen BLACK when I look at women who teter on the edge
and I'm still not even sure these women are even "black" except Mimi :dead:
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_IieevV9ooqM/SID4FEwwIhI/AAAAAAAABOA/W1RfrUdjOfI/s400/Pebbles-Backyard-284818.jpg)
(http://media1.s-nbcnews.com/j/MSNBC/Components/Slideshows/_production/ss-090805-paula-abdul/paula-abdul-undated-young.today-ss-slide-desktop.jpg)
(https://imgix.ranker.com/user_node_img/50040/1000794943/original/young-mariah-carey-in-pink-dress-semi-closeup-photo-u1?w=650&q=50&fm=jpg&fit=crop&crop=faces)
I agree. I'm thge same way. Iono what Paula Abdul is. I actually found out at some point but I've always just thought her a light black woman
Mariah is the ugliest there btw
ssssssssss
:guys:
Ima deal with Rihanna later. Got a whole new set of pics.
(http://s1.dmcdn.net/OG6Go/1280x720-DMC.jpg)
Even before the surge you could clearly see Moo wasn't a White girl.
I don't know why people ever thought that.
Well one thing thats for sure no one mistook Janet for anything but a Nigger.
(https://images-production.global.ssl.fastly.net/uploads/photos/file/252347/janet-jackson-1977.jpg?auto=compress&crop=top&fit=clip&h=500&q=55&w=698)
with that big ass nose and nappy ass hair,.
Are you ok hon? :uhh:
:caramelapple: peachy.
the racism
Quote from: Baph al Mana. on February 02, 2018, 04:04:33 PM
Well one thing thats for sure no one mistook Janet for anything but a Nigger.
(https://images-production.global.ssl.fastly.net/uploads/photos/file/252347/janet-jackson-1977.jpg?auto=compress&crop=top&fit=clip&h=500&q=55&w=698)
with that big ass nose and nappy ass hair,.
:guys:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BejeioOnNWx
guys i made some vegan white/black cookies
Quote from: Baph al Mana. on February 02, 2018, 04:04:33 PM
Well one thing thats for sure no one mistook Janet for anything but a Nigger.
(https://images-production.global.ssl.fastly.net/uploads/photos/file/252347/janet-jackson-1977.jpg?auto=compress&crop=top&fit=clip&h=500&q=55&w=698)
with that big ass nose and nappy ass hair,.
:ummwhat:
Quote from: Baph al Mana. on February 02, 2018, 04:04:33 PM
Well one thing thats for sure no one mistook Janet for anything but a Nigger.
(https://images-production.global.ssl.fastly.net/uploads/photos/file/252347/janet-jackson-1977.jpg?auto=compress&crop=top&fit=clip&h=500&q=55&w=698)
with that big ass nose and nappy ass hair,.
(https://i.imgur.com/yUEuGqF.gif)
[youtube height=1 width=1 autoplay=1]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGwxVsUN5Dw[/youtube]
Quote from: M??D?? on February 02, 2018, 04:02:58 PM
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Even before the surge you could clearly see Moo wasn't a White girl.
I don't know why people ever thought that.
She kinda looks Aboriginal here
*cave mannish
Quote from: squid on February 02, 2018, 07:16:55 PM
Quote from: M??D?? on February 02, 2018, 04:02:58 PM
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Even before the surge you could clearly see Moo wasn't a White girl.
I don't know why people ever thought that.
She kinda looks Aboriginal here
i see it bhhhh
i thought mariah was white until i heard about her heritage.
i always wondered how a white womuh SLIPPED into and settled into R&B/hip hop so comfortably :dead: :dead: never seemed forced with her.
it made sense of her style of musicality to me.
i've heard mariah acknowledge that some people look at her like :blink: :blink: when she says "im black". :dead:
but her styling had something to do with it too. the blond hair, etc.
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/71UUfMZO5ML._SL1050_.jpg)
and mariahs one of those people...whose race u dont even focus on like that
shes just mariah :plzstop: :plzstop:
Janet had that same thing going on. she was just janet.
whitney too.
their presence/talent surpassed the concept of race.
its crazy to me that half of everyone thinks mariah was white and the other half thought she was black
i always thought she was black :dead: i guess shes really perfectly black&white
Quote from: LORD GRAND SUPREME PRIME CELESTIAL MARSHALL on February 02, 2018, 07:29:52 PM
its crazy to me that half of everyone thinks mariah was white and the other half thought she was black
i always thought she was black :dead: i guess shes really perfectly black&white
!
I never saw white :plzstop:
I didn't really grow up with the concept of races. For example Mel B had darker skin and that was just it. And I don't ever remember thinking of TLC as black girls. I didn't really put too much thought into that. Mariah kinda looked like a singing Pamela Anderson to me. :dead:
!!!!
Race honestly wasn't a thing for me til I went down south.
but I'm glad I woke up. This isn't really isn't the time in America's history to be walking around saying or genuinely believing "I don't see color".
Quote from: golden touch. on February 02, 2018, 07:57:57 PM
!!!!
Race honestly wasn't a thing for me til I went down south.
but I'm glad I woke up. This isn't really isn't the time in America's history to be walking around saying or genuinely believing "I don't see color".
Yes, I think it's just the innocence you have as a child.
Quote from: M??D?? on February 02, 2018, 04:02:58 PM
(http://s1.dmcdn.net/OG6Go/1280x720-DMC.jpg)
Even before the surge you could clearly see Moo wasn't a White girl.
I don't know why people ever thought that.
Damn this little bitch is ugly. Dem bvys look just like her too!
Quote from: squid on February 02, 2018, 08:01:24 PM
Quote from: golden touch. on February 02, 2018, 07:57:57 PM
!!!!
Race honestly wasn't a thing for me til I went down south.
but I'm glad I woke up. This isn't really isn't the time in America's history to be walking around saying or genuinely believing "I don't see color".
Yes, I think it's just the innocence you have as a child.
!!!!!
my best friend didn't really have that tho. she always felt as if i lived in a bubble where everyone got along, there was no racism, shadiness in the world etc. :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:
she'd be like ..
wat world r u in right now? :usureuok:
s
sc.'sc.
'sc.s'c
s.c'
.cs'
she's wat u'd call "been woke"
Quote from: BowDown on February 02, 2018, 08:02:10 PM
Quote from: M??D?? on February 02, 2018, 04:02:58 PM
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Even before the surge you could clearly see Moo wasn't a White girl.
I don't know why people ever thought that.
Damn this little bitch is ugly. Dem bvys look just like her too!
she looks way better than Janet
Wtf are u talking about :plzstop:
guys im making some celery sticks
Quote from: squid on February 02, 2018, 07:54:03 PM
I didn't really grow up with the concept of races. For example Mel B had darker skin and that was just it. And I don't ever remember thinking of TLC as black girls. I didn't really put too much thought into that. Mariah kinda looked like a singing Pamela Anderson to me. :dead:
v
well when you're 10 and you take a survey and it asks what race you are
you become accustomed very quickly
wtf
what kind of survey was that?
Quote from: golden touch. on February 02, 2018, 08:19:49 PM
wtf
what kind of survey was that?
Probably some Floridian welfare surveys..
nmmmmmmmmmmmm i dunno but ive been asked my race when applying for college applications and jobs
in fact, after i turned 18 i saw those questions LESS
it was always asked when we took the FCAT (a test required for you to go to the next grade)
i've always viewed mariah as a black woman
:dead:
you just know... or can tell...
however, i never viewed jon b. as a black man
i never looked into it... he's white, right?
Quote from: golden touch. on February 02, 2018, 07:25:52 PM
and mariahs one of those people...whose race u dont even focus on like that
shes just mariah :plzstop: :plzstop:
Janet had that same thing going on. she was just janet.
whitney too.
their presence/talent surpassed the concept of race.
!!!!
it's like mariah is A RACE within herself
:plzstop:
Quote from: golden touch. on February 02, 2018, 08:02:59 PM
Quote from: squid on February 02, 2018, 08:01:24 PM
Quote from: golden touch. on February 02, 2018, 07:57:57 PM
!!!!
Race honestly wasn't a thing for me til I went down south.
but I'm glad I woke up. This isn't really isn't the time in America's history to be walking around saying or genuinely believing "I don't see color".
Yes, I think it's just the innocence you have as a child.
!!!!!
my best friend didn't really have that tho. she always felt as if i lived in a bubble where everyone got along, there was no racism, shadiness in the world etc. :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:
she'd be like .. wat world r u in right now? :usureuok:
s
sc.'sc.
'sc.s'c
s.c'
.cs'
she's wat u'd call "been woke"
NYC does that to us, IMO.
Visiting family in other states is when I woke up to it more.
Now, don't get it twisted, race shows up in professional settings, especially corporate. So I've experienced and I am well aware.
But NYC is really in a damn bubble.
:dead:
Quote from: ???? on February 02, 2018, 09:34:22 PM
Quote from: golden touch. on February 02, 2018, 08:02:59 PM
Quote from: squid on February 02, 2018, 08:01:24 PM
Quote from: golden touch. on February 02, 2018, 07:57:57 PM
!!!!
Race honestly wasn't a thing for me til I went down south.
but I'm glad I woke up. This isn't really isn't the time in America's history to be walking around saying or genuinely believing "I don't see color".
Yes, I think it's just the innocence you have as a child.
!!!!!
my best friend didn't really have that tho. she always felt as if i lived in a bubble where everyone got along, there was no racism, shadiness in the world etc. :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:
she'd be like .. wat world r u in right now? :usureuok:
s
sc.'sc.
'sc.s'c
s.c'
.cs'
she's wat u'd call "been woke"
NYC does that to us, IMO.
Visiting family in other states is when I woke up to it more.
Now, don't get it twisted, race shows up in professional settings, especially corporate. So I've experienced and I am well aware.
But NYC is really in a damn bubble.
:dead:
!!!
I understood race very early. And Mariah Carey, Britney Spears, Shakira & Christina were all the same/white to me. Most light latinos were white to me. Fat Joe, Ricky Martin...
And I thought Will Smith, Tatyana Ali and some others were mixed but black like me. Dark latinos were just black to me like Christina Milian.
Whoopi was black.
Quote from: BowDown on February 02, 2018, 08:02:10 PM
Quote from: M??D?? on February 02, 2018, 04:02:58 PM
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Even before the surge you could clearly see Moo wasn't a White girl.
I don't know why people ever thought that.
Damn this little bitch is ugly. Dem bvys look just like her too!
Ugly AF
Quote from: ???? on February 02, 2018, 09:30:08 PM
you just know... or can tell...
however, i never viewed jon b. as a black man
i never looked into it... he's white, right?
Yea, he white
Quote from: Freeruu on February 02, 2018, 12:56:24 AM
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:guys:
Not tiffany :plzstop:
I see it