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Thoughts?
Full Episode:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9NTvCyprsA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUxtzhplZtI
The grapevine always brings it.
This is a very good watch + conversation. Ya'll should watch
This black queen was going the fuck off.
:guys:
v
these hotep "woke" ass people are annoying.
where is a shooter when you need them.
let the man live its not like he doesn't acknowledge and support blacks.
tbh he's a minority his own damn self.
I actually agree that Bruno won that Grammy because he's the non-threatening mulatto boy doing black music.
That's more on the music institution though.
He doesn't give me culture vulture like Miley and 'em. He's just making music.
I agree with what she's saying but I'm a bit confused when it comes to Bruno. He shares a lot of the same genetic roots as some black artists but the issue with him is because he doesn't identify as a black person?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_awards_and_nominations_received_by_Prince#Grammy_Award
Damn @ none of Prince's albums nabbing AOTY :omgwatshappening:
This is fucked up to me.
If he grew up in the culture how could he be appropriating it?
Just because he doesn't look a certain way you're going to target him?
And where the hell was this session and intervention when Miley was out there twerking on Black men in her videos?
We know damn well she didn't come from the culture but I saw no picket signs being raised.
Leave him alone.
Quote from: hai class. on March 09, 2018, 10:13:02 AM
This is fucked up to me.
If he grew up in the culture how could he be appropriating it?
Just because he doesn't look a certain way you're going to target him?
facts. i hate stupid ass people.
Quote from: Nine on March 09, 2018, 10:11:58 AM
I actually agree that Bruno won that Grammy because he's the non-threatening mulatto boy doing black music.
That's more on the music institution though.
He doesn't give me culture vulture like Miley and 'em. He's just making music.
Quote from: hai class. on March 09, 2018, 10:16:42 AM
And where the hell was this session and intervention when Miley was out there twerking on Black men in her videos?
We know damn well she didn't come from the culture but I saw no picket signs being raised.
Leave him alone.
fffffff
The social justice gors kinda wanted her dead since 2013 :guys:
http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/doublex/2013/08/miley_cyrus_vma_performance_white_appropriation_of_black_bodies.html
https://www.teenvogue.com/story/miley-cyrus-rightful-backlash-past-cultural-appropriation
I agree that people would rather take black music and black culture from non blacks, but that's pretty much all.
Chris Brown, Trey Songz, Usher, Bryston Tiller etc etc etc music doesn't sound anything like Bruno's so I'm not really buying what she's selling.
Prince, Bobby Brown and MJ aren't current
Quote from: Andrais. on March 09, 2018, 10:20:29 AM
I agree that people would rather take black music and black culture from non blacks, but that's pretty much all.
Chris Brown, Trey Songz, Usher, Bryston Tiller etc etc etc music doesn't sound anything like Bruno's so I'm not really buying what she's selling.
Prince, Bobby Brown and MJ aren't current
!!!!! But we also have to acknowledge that we don't value our own damn artist. We are the kings/queens of telling artist that have made it past their debut album to go somewhere and sit down.
ddddddddd
Not these niggas getting buck and ready to fight each other
:guys:
Quote from: Nine on March 09, 2018, 10:29:18 AM
ddddddddd
Not these niggas getting buck and ready to fight each other
:guys:
hhhhh they get into it on there
This episode>
"his ukelele music wasn't popping before he started making black music"
"anyone that walks around saying the n-word is black to me"
:plzstop:
They def do a great job of getting diverse opinions to create a conversation
in a cafe
Opinions indeed
"He's nothing but a wedding singer!"
With the amount of anger I see here, you'd think Bruno Mars was out here claiming he lived a thug life or something. Just being blatantly offensive or something. He sings R&B infused POP music.
And his father is a Puerto Rican man from Brooklyn. Like....
"He's not Black at all"
How do you know that? I see goddess obtained his DNA report prior to this session taking place.
opinions indeed
Quote from: Mu on March 09, 2018, 10:28:14 AM
Quote from: Andrais. on March 09, 2018, 10:20:29 AM
I agree that people would rather take black music and black culture from non blacks, but that's pretty much all.
Chris Brown, Trey Songz, Usher, Bryston Tiller etc etc etc music doesn't sound anything like Bruno's so I'm not really buying what she's selling.
Prince, Bobby Brown and MJ aren't current
!!!!! But we also have to acknowledge that we don't value our own damn artist. We are the kings/queens of telling artist that have made it past their debut album to go somewhere and sit down.
Exactly
And I agree with the other girl when she was talking about should we accept black people making black music when the shit is wack as fuck but then turn around and demean non black people making black music when it's really fckng good.
Damn @ 25:17 in the first vid :guys:
https://tinyurl.com/ydfnubqy
ssddsadsdds were they about to come to BLOWS?
Quote from: Freeruu on March 09, 2018, 10:12:54 AM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_awards_and_nominations_received_by_Prince#Grammy_Award
Damn @ none of Prince's albums nabbing AOTY :omgwatshappening:
A damn shame.
With Bruno I feel like he grew up with that kind of music, even though his interpretation of it is corny, you can tell he's sincere and genuine with it.
That "Finesse" song sounds like it came from a Bobby Brown album from the early 90's :dead:
Justin Timberlake is the bigger perp IMO, he profits from the culture and stays silent when it comes to black issue's.
He disrespects black legends (Prince and Janet) whilst benefiting from their sound, his production is solely Timbaland and Pharrell, he justs put his pasty pale face over it and it sells like hotcakes.
Quote from: Vibrant on March 09, 2018, 11:00:46 AM
With Bruno I feel like he grew up with that kind of music, even though his interpretation of it is corny, you can tell he's sincere and genuine with it.
That "Finesse" song sounds like it came from a Bobby Brown album from the early 90's :dead:
Justin Timberlake is the bigger perp IMO, he profits from the culture and stays silent when it comes to black issue's.
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
But let's pounce on a fellow person of color instead.
I wish they were around when Katy had her hair braided up in that "This Is How We Do" vidya , rolling her neck and singing about spending rent money on bottles in the club. I was a bit offended by that. But kwee makes some good bops. :woohoo:
But I definitely knew she was low key racist and clearly an appropriator from that point. But the gorls finally caught on once she just went FULL OWT with it after she began flopping ...and whatever comments she was making about Obama and Trump as she sipped her slurpee in a car. :plzstop:
Quote from: Vibrant on March 09, 2018, 11:00:46 AM
With Bruno I feel like he grew up with that kind of music, even though his interpretation of it is corny, you can tell he's sincere and genuine with it.
That "Finesse" song sounds like it came from a Bobby Brown album from the early 90's :dead:
Justin Timberlake is the bigger perp IMO, he profits from the culture and stays silent when it comes to black issue's.
I agree 100%
He?s corny, and I?m definitely not a fan especially of this era with
Everything completely copied from early 90s songs
but I don?t think he?s an appropriator. He is a person of color
It is unfair how he gets accolades and opportunities based on being less black than anyone else but that?s not his fault
Quote from: AYR on March 09, 2018, 11:05:56 AM
Quote from: Vibrant on March 09, 2018, 11:00:46 AM
With Bruno I feel like he grew up with that kind of music, even though his interpretation of it is corny, you can tell he's sincere and genuine with it.
That "Finesse" song sounds like it came from a Bobby Brown album from the early 90's :dead:
Justin Timberlake is the bigger perp IMO, he profits from the culture and stays silent when it comes to black issue's.
I agree 100%
He?s corny, and I?m definitely not a fan especially of this era with
Everything completely copied from early 90s songs
but I don?t think he?s an appropriator. He is a person of color
It is unfair how he gets accolades and opportunities based on being less black than anyone else but that?s not his fault
Because I guarantee if someone like Trey, Chris Brown, Usher or even R.Kelly came out with that kind of music, radio wouldn't play it as much and award committee's and shows wouldn't even pay them any mind.
or even Miguel
This is dumb. Bruno has stated in multiple interviews (current and even when he debuted) that he grew up on 90s R&B. He gave props to the legends in his Grammy's speech.
A lot of great points are being made
especially by the girl in the braids who hates him
but I just won?t say he?s an appropriator. He?s overrated and corny
Quote from: AYR on March 09, 2018, 11:20:42 AM
A lot of great points are being made
especially by the girl in the braids who hates him
but I just won?t say he?s an appropriator. He?s overrated and corny
Exactly. You can say that he's cheating by reusing a sound that's already been done but he's not appropriating the culture.
Quote from: Andrais. on March 09, 2018, 10:44:48 AM
Quote from: Mu on March 09, 2018, 10:28:14 AM
Quote from: Andrais. on March 09, 2018, 10:20:29 AM
I agree that people would rather take black music and black culture from non blacks, but that's pretty much all.
Chris Brown, Trey Songz, Usher, Bryston Tiller etc etc etc music doesn't sound anything like Bruno's so I'm not really buying what she's selling.
Prince, Bobby Brown and MJ aren't current
!!!!! But we also have to acknowledge that we don't value our own damn artist. We are the kings/queens of telling artist that have made it past their debut album to go somewhere and sit down.
Exactly
And I agree with the other girl when she was talking about should we accept black people making black music when the shit is wack as fuck but then turn around and demean non black people making black music when it's really fckng good.
His last album was better than any album Usher or Chris Brown has put out in years. The concept was well developed, the music was superb, and the respect he has for our culture is more than some of our biggest options. He makes his business to attend the Soul Train Awards/BET awards and etc. He is always gracious. I am sorry but if I grew up in Mexico and want to put a perm in my hair and dress and sing like I'm Mexican that's my right. These people are dumb as fuck!
Black people mad at bruno mars for whatever reason meanwhile left monique hanging to dry :plzstop:
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I just...
And he's very talented. If I was never addicted to any of his songs I would probably look into entertaining this mess but "Thats What I Like" is beautifully amazing to me. :plzstop:
Hardly anything in music is brand new. Even Michael had his references.
I just feel like Bruno was a terrible example.
Most of the time black people are talking about how trash the new generation of R&B/Hip Hop is but as soon as somebody non black comes along and sings something in the genre they wanna scream appropriation.
Nevermind the fact these black artists are singing the same tired old club party trap bullshit or the emo alternative rnb mess. Most mainstream blacks artists discarded black music eons ago.
And I don't care for this midget at all but the music he's "appropriating" is something hardly any other black male artists are bothering to dip into.
It's just not clicking but I'm definitely concerned about the erasure of black people from our own culture.
I am beyond tired of this era in society. I love that we are starting to see things but let's use logic and not be selective.
Monique deserved more than 500k ; her logic was flawed but she definitely deserved more than that.
Bruno should be allowed to make whatever music he wants to make.
The fact of the matter is until we as culture go out and buy the new R&B projects like we did for Black Panther and hip-hop. The whites (non-blacks) will continue to be more popular sanging it.
We have to be okay with the fact that Monica will never get another bb hot100 #1 song no matter how amazing it was or that there will never be another Confessions' album from our genre and take our FAULT in it!
the video in the OP didn't really lie. the appropriating stuff is dumb because we can say that about damn near everyone, but that opinion of him being about as unoriginal as gets, is pretty much a fact in my mind.
Quote from: Andrais. on March 09, 2018, 10:20:29 AM
I agree that people would rather take black music and black culture from non blacks, but that's pretty much all.
Chris Brown, Trey Songz, Usher, Bryston Tiller etc etc etc music doesn't sound anything like Bruno's so I'm not really buying what she's selling.
Prince, Bobby Brown and MJ aren't current
the only thing I feel about Bruno is that it is unfair that he gets tossed into the black categories at all the award shows..
he is a pop singer who does R&B songs.. really unfair advantage but that's it.
He is very upfront with his appreciation for blacks and how they have inspired him!
Quote from: M'Baku on March 09, 2018, 11:36:38 AM
the only thing I feel about Bruno is that it is unfair that he gets tossed into the black categories at all the award shows..
he is a pop singer who does R&B songs.. really unfair advantage but that's it.
He is very upfront with his appreciation for blacks and how they have inspired him!
!!!! toss his ass in them other categories
traditional! urban! plea'
Quote from: Mu on March 09, 2018, 11:31:56 AM
I am beyond tired of this era in society. I love that we are starting to see things but let's use logic and not be selective.
Monique deserved more than 500k ; her logic was flawed but she definitely deserved more than that.
Bruno should be allowed to make whatever music he wants to make.
The fact of the matter is until we as culture go out and buy the new R&B projects like we did for Black Panther and hip-hop. The whites (non-blacks) will continue to be more popular sanging it.
We have to be okay with the fact that Monica will never get another bb hot100 #1 song no matter how amazing it was or that there will never be another Confessions' album from our genre and take our FAULT in it!
Monica hasnt had a hit or platinum plaque since the 90?s because she?s a flop not because she?s black :dead:
n
Monica literally had two hits in 2010. this decade lolz
she has more number 1's than all of your faves outside of Beyonce
stay mad
Quote from: 1RIG on March 09, 2018, 11:41:25 AM
n
Monica literally had two hits in 2010. this decade lolz
Gen is so bitter!
:dead:
it's a kii
Quote from: M'Baku on March 09, 2018, 11:36:38 AM
the only thing I feel about Bruno is that it is unfair that he gets tossed into the black categories at all the award shows..
he is a pop singer who does R&B songs.. really unfair advantage but that's it.
He is very upfront with his appreciation for blacks and how they have inspired him!
Rihanna also gets placed in the R&B categories at award shows but no one complains about that...lol
lemme pop in my After the storm mess
:wheresmylawyer:
just for a sec tho
Quote from: Buddha on March 09, 2018, 11:44:07 AM
Quote from: M'Baku on March 09, 2018, 11:36:38 AM
the only thing I feel about Bruno is that it is unfair that he gets tossed into the black categories at all the award shows..
he is a pop singer who does R&B songs.. really unfair advantage but that's it.
He is very upfront with his appreciation for blacks and how they have inspired him!
Rihanna also gets placed in the R&B categories at award shows but no one complains about that...lol
n
rihanna is r&b tho
and she is also black..
her r&b tunes are serviced like R&B records as well..
Quote from: M'Baku on March 09, 2018, 11:45:27 AM
Quote from: Buddha on March 09, 2018, 11:44:07 AM
Quote from: M'Baku on March 09, 2018, 11:36:38 AM
the only thing I feel about Bruno is that it is unfair that he gets tossed into the black categories at all the award shows..
he is a pop singer who does R&B songs.. really unfair advantage but that's it.
He is very upfront with his appreciation for blacks and how they have inspired him!
Rihanna also gets placed in the R&B categories at award shows but no one complains about that...lol
n
rihanna is r&b tho
and she is also black..
her r&b tunes are serviced like R&B records as well..
Rihanna is not an R&B artist
Quote from: Buddha on March 09, 2018, 11:46:27 AM
Quote from: M'Baku on March 09, 2018, 11:45:27 AM
Quote from: Buddha on March 09, 2018, 11:44:07 AM
Quote from: M'Baku on March 09, 2018, 11:36:38 AM
the only thing I feel about Bruno is that it is unfair that he gets tossed into the black categories at all the award shows..
he is a pop singer who does R&B songs.. really unfair advantage but that's it.
He is very upfront with his appreciation for blacks and how they have inspired him!
Rihanna also gets placed in the R&B categories at award shows but no one complains about that...lol
n
rihanna is r&b tho
and she is also black..
her r&b tunes are serviced like R&B records as well..
Rihanna is not an R&B artist
yeah she is
every single from Anti is R&B btw..
every one
Quote from: M'Baku on March 09, 2018, 11:46:59 AM
Quote from: Buddha on March 09, 2018, 11:46:27 AM
Quote from: M'Baku on March 09, 2018, 11:45:27 AM
Quote from: Buddha on March 09, 2018, 11:44:07 AM
Quote from: M'Baku on March 09, 2018, 11:36:38 AM
the only thing I feel about Bruno is that it is unfair that he gets tossed into the black categories at all the award shows..
he is a pop singer who does R&B songs.. really unfair advantage but that's it.
He is very upfront with his appreciation for blacks and how they have inspired him!
Rihanna also gets placed in the R&B categories at award shows but no one complains about that...lol
n
rihanna is r&b tho
and she is also black..
her r&b tunes are serviced like R&B records as well..
Rihanna is not an R&B artist
yeah she is
No she isn't
People just love looking at someone and moving to dictate what their place should be. All about color and race, and about putting someone in a damn box. And that's understandable , especially given the nation's racial climate, but at least take the time to look into his background before you make such a SERIOUS accusation like culture appropriation.
I definitely get the points being made, there's some validity . But to pin HIM to the cross for it is fucked up.
Quote from: Andrais. on March 09, 2018, 11:49:31 AM
Quote from: M'Baku on March 09, 2018, 11:46:59 AM
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Quote from: M'Baku on March 09, 2018, 11:45:27 AM
Quote from: Buddha on March 09, 2018, 11:44:07 AM
Quote from: M'Baku on March 09, 2018, 11:36:38 AM
the only thing I feel about Bruno is that it is unfair that he gets tossed into the black categories at all the award shows..
he is a pop singer who does R&B songs.. really unfair advantage but that's it.
He is very upfront with his appreciation for blacks and how they have inspired him!
Rihanna also gets placed in the R&B categories at award shows but no one complains about that...lol
n
rihanna is r&b tho
and she is also black..
her r&b tunes are serviced like R&B records as well..
Rihanna is not an R&B artist
yeah she is
No she isn't
yes she is, leave him alone.
Quote from: Genesis on March 09, 2018, 11:38:30 AM
Quote from: Mu on March 09, 2018, 11:31:56 AM
I am beyond tired of this era in society. I love that we are starting to see things but let's use logic and not be selective.
Monique deserved more than 500k ; her logic was flawed but she definitely deserved more than that.
Bruno should be allowed to make whatever music he wants to make.
The fact of the matter is until we as culture go out and buy the new R&B projects like we did for Black Panther and hip-hop. The whites (non-blacks) will continue to be more popular sanging it.
We have to be okay with the fact that Monica will never get another bb hot100 #1 song no matter how amazing it was or that there will never be another Confessions' album from our genre and take our FAULT in it!
Monica hasnt had a hit or platinum plaque since the 90?s because she?s a flop not because she?s black :dead:
that is a lie! Monica wasn't fucking with the girls in her Still Standing era and if that same era with the same music was released in the 90s guarantee Love All Over Me/Everything would have hit that BB TOP 3. This isn't about her I was using her as an example as someone who has kinda stayed consistent to her base and semi consistent with material releases.
go make a tinashe mixtape or something
nosey self
Quote from: Vibrant on March 09, 2018, 11:50:05 AM
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Quote from: M'Baku on March 09, 2018, 11:45:27 AM
Quote from: Buddha on March 09, 2018, 11:44:07 AM
Quote from: M'Baku on March 09, 2018, 11:36:38 AM
the only thing I feel about Bruno is that it is unfair that he gets tossed into the black categories at all the award shows..
he is a pop singer who does R&B songs.. really unfair advantage but that's it.
He is very upfront with his appreciation for blacks and how they have inspired him!
Rihanna also gets placed in the R&B categories at award shows but no one complains about that...lol
n
rihanna is r&b tho
and she is also black..
her r&b tunes are serviced like R&B records as well..
Rihanna is not an R&B artist
yeah she is
No she isn't
yes she is, leave him alone.
these girls :dead:
Quote from: Vibrant on March 09, 2018, 11:50:05 AM
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Quote from: M'Baku on March 09, 2018, 11:45:27 AM
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Quote from: M'Baku on March 09, 2018, 11:36:38 AM
the only thing I feel about Bruno is that it is unfair that he gets tossed into the black categories at all the award shows..
he is a pop singer who does R&B songs.. really unfair advantage but that's it.
He is very upfront with his appreciation for blacks and how they have inspired him!
Rihanna also gets placed in the R&B categories at award shows but no one complains about that...lol
n
rihanna is r&b tho
and she is also black..
her r&b tunes are serviced like R&B records as well..
Rihanna is not an R&B artist
yeah she is
No she isn't
yes she is, leave him alone.
r u on drugs
Quote from: M'Baku on March 09, 2018, 11:47:40 AM
every single from Anti is R&B btw..
every one
What about the rest of Rihanna's discography?
And Bruno's whole album is R&B.
She's more R&B than bruno, i know that. even her album tracks if we AREN'T talking singles lol
people like Fauntleroy laced her with R&B IMO. it may not be the old school B.cox ballad kind, but hey.
Quote from: Buddha on March 09, 2018, 11:51:04 AM
Quote from: M'Baku on March 09, 2018, 11:47:40 AM
every single from Anti is R&B btw..
every one
What about the rest of Rihanna's discography?
And Bruno's whole album is R&B.
she has pop songs but her base is R&B..
i also said Bruno makes R&B music..
You can't put Rihanna in a category with Maxwell or Fantasia. She doesn't have a single R&B album.
She's always been mostly Island Pop and started to dip into Urban later in her career. And even still that's the Trey Songz, Kelly Rowland, etc type of music. Not actual R&B.
v
oh girl!
she has always been an r&b girl and all over r&b radio
she just happens to make music that reaches pop audiences.
She's not
I still laugh how she skyrocketed to the top of the R&B charts after Billboard make that stupid rule change.
I'll say this..
there should be more r&b categories
and they should be split into R&B/Soul and Contemporary R&B
rather than shoving them all together..
because it is unfair to box Lalah Hathaway against someone like Beyonce..
ill say that
Quote from: Andrais. on March 09, 2018, 11:52:42 AM
You can't put Rihanna in a category with Maxwell or Fantasia. She doesn't have a single R&B album.
She's always been mostly Island Pop and started to dip into Urban later in her career. And even still that's the Trey Songz, Kelly Rowland, etc type of music. Not actual R&B.
Rihanna's a Rhythmic girl.... am not sure she makes R&B music that should be getting her nominated in those categories.
Quote from: Andrais. on March 09, 2018, 11:54:38 AM
She's not
I still laugh how she skyrocketed to the top of the R&B charts after Billboard make that stupid rule change.
beyonce also benefited from this rule as well..
is she not R&B?
Quote from: M'Baku on March 09, 2018, 11:55:09 AM
I'll say this..
there should be more r&b categories
and they should be split into R&B/Soul and Contemporary R&B
rather than shoving them all together..
because it is unfair to box Lalah Hathaway against someone like Beyonce..
ill say that
Beyonce is a rapper now.
Quote from: 1RIG on March 09, 2018, 11:51:16 AM
She's more R&B than bruno, i know that. even her album tracks if we AREN'T talking singles lol
people like Fauntleroy laced her with R&B IMO. it may not be the old school B.cox ballad kind, but hey.
Fauntleroy wrote that whole Bruno album. Rihanna is a pop artist that makes R&B songs. Just like Justin Timberlake and Bruno Mars.
Needed Me, Work, Love on the Brain, Kiss it better and bitch better have my money are all r&b records
Quote from: hai class. on March 09, 2018, 10:40:31 AM
Opinions indeed
"He's nothing but a wedding singer!"
With the amount of anger I see here, you'd think Bruno Mars was out here claiming he lived a thug life or something. Just being blatantly offensive or something. He sings R&B infused POP music.
And his father is a Puerto Rican man from Brooklyn. Like....
"He's not Black at all"
How do you know that? I see goddess obtained his DNA report prior to this session taking place.
Weren't you trying to say the same thing about cardi right when bodak went number 1 ?
In recent years Bruno Mars has made more R&B songs mainstream than majority of the people mentioned in this thread. There are so many factors that make this true but the guy definitely makes R&B music is talented AF and puts on a damn good show. I would go to is tour on any day.
Quote from: TEXASbama on March 09, 2018, 11:57:34 AM
Quote from: hai class. on March 09, 2018, 10:40:31 AM
Opinions indeed
"He's nothing but a wedding singer!"
With the amount of anger I see here, you'd think Bruno Mars was out here claiming he lived a thug life or something. Just being blatantly offensive or something. He sings R&B infused POP music.
And his father is a Puerto Rican man from Brooklyn. Like....
"He's not Black at all"
How do you know that? I see goddess obtained his DNA report prior to this session taking place.
Weren't you trying to say the same thing about cardi right when bodak went number 1 ?
:ummwhat:
Quote from: Buddha on March 09, 2018, 11:56:08 AM
Quote from: 1RIG on March 09, 2018, 11:51:16 AM
She's more R&B than bruno, i know that. even her album tracks if we AREN'T talking singles lol
people like Fauntleroy laced her with R&B IMO. it may not be the old school B.cox ballad kind, but hey.
Fauntleroy wrote that whole Bruno album. Rihanna is a pop artist that makes R&B songs. Just like Justin Timberlake and Bruno Mars.
what makes her more pop tho?
she isnt a conventional pop girl..
she is an r&b girl who reaches pop audiences period
Beyonc? has actual R&B albums. The foundation of her music has always R&B, and then she crossed over into Pop. Rihanna doesn't have a Dangerously In Love or a 4.
She's always been mostly Pop with an Urban flair. Now she's mostly Urban.
Quote from: M'Baku on March 09, 2018, 11:58:46 AM
Quote from: Buddha on March 09, 2018, 11:56:08 AM
Quote from: 1RIG on March 09, 2018, 11:51:16 AM
She's more R&B than bruno, i know that. even her album tracks if we AREN'T talking singles lol
people like Fauntleroy laced her with R&B IMO. it may not be the old school B.cox ballad kind, but hey.
Fauntleroy wrote that whole Bruno album. Rihanna is a pop artist that makes R&B songs. Just like Justin Timberlake and Bruno Mars.
what makes her more pop tho?
she isnt a conventional pop girl..
she is an r&b girl who reaches pop audiences period
no she is a pop girl that uses her blackness to reach the urban market.
Quote from: M'Baku on March 09, 2018, 11:57:15 AM
Needed Me, Work, Love on the Brain, Kiss it better and bitch better have my money are all r&b records
See I think we have different definitions on what r&b is.
an r&b girl that makes music that reaches pop audiences would be A. Keys (outside of HERE) that reached nowhere.
Quote from: TEXASbama on March 09, 2018, 11:57:34 AM
Quote from: hai class. on March 09, 2018, 10:40:31 AM
Opinions indeed
"He's nothing but a wedding singer!"
With the amount of anger I see here, you'd think Bruno Mars was out here claiming he lived a thug life or something. Just being blatantly offensive or something. He sings R&B infused POP music.
And his father is a Puerto Rican man from Brooklyn. Like....
"He's not Black at all"
How do you know that? I see goddess obtained his DNA report prior to this session taking place.
Weren't you trying to say the same thing about cardi right when bodak went number 1 ?
If anything I was on here defending Cardi's use of the "n" word when interviews and articles began popping up to question her about it.
And trying to explain how closely knit Blacks and Hispanics are here in NYC.
Check the tapes before you roll them, Nick.
Quote from: Andrais. on March 09, 2018, 11:59:02 AM
Beyonc? has actual R&B albums. The foundation of her music has always R&B, and then she crossed over into Pop. Rihanna doesn't have a Dangerously In Love or a 4.
She's always been mostly Pop with an Urban flair. Now she's mostly Urban.
im crying
ok :dead:
Quote from: Buddha on March 09, 2018, 12:00:45 PM
Quote from: M'Baku on March 09, 2018, 11:57:15 AM
Needed Me, Work, Love on the Brain, Kiss it better and bitch better have my money are all r&b records
See I think we have different definitions on what r&b is.
Yeah those were hip hop songs to me lolz def not rnb
Not Love On The Brain, Kiss & Work being hip hop
4 is not some b cox type R&B..
and dangerously in love has "pop" records on them
the only difference is that some of rihanna albums have EDM tracks on it..
please..
rih and bey are both one in the same..
if rih is pop
so is beyonce
Beyonce has never made a Pop Album / Outside of IASF and even those were very R&B rooted.
Quote from: hai class. on March 09, 2018, 12:01:08 PM
Quote from: TEXASbama on March 09, 2018, 11:57:34 AM
Quote from: hai class. on March 09, 2018, 10:40:31 AM
Opinions indeed
"He's nothing but a wedding singer!"
With the amount of anger I see here, you'd think Bruno Mars was out here claiming he lived a thug life or something. Just being blatantly offensive or something. He sings R&B infused POP music.
And his father is a Puerto Rican man from Brooklyn. Like....
"He's not Black at all"
How do you know that? I see goddess obtained his DNA report prior to this session taking place.
Weren't you trying to say the same thing about cardi right when bodak went number 1 ?
If anything I was on here defending Cardi's use of the "n" word when interviews and articles began popping up to question her about it.
And trying to explain how closely knit Blacks and Hispanics are here in NYC.
Check the tapes before you roll them, Nick.
I checked the tapes including the hidden ones that yums never told you about.
You said cardi wasn't black and she shouldn't say the n word and that bodak yellow wasn't a success for black females in rap cause she wasn't black lolz
anti was more urban and r&b than Lemonade btw
Quote from: Mu on March 09, 2018, 12:03:28 PM
Beyonce has never made a Pop Album / Outside of IASF and even those were very R&B rooted.
so has she or hasnt she
u just contradicted yourself..
Beyonce is a pop album if were going off yall definition of what rnb is
lemonade as well .. 4 too
Some of ya'll just love making shit up off the top of your head.
Then wonder why someone gets annoyed with it.
"But wait. Didn't you... :butwait!: "
No, I didn't.
Quote from: M'Baku on March 09, 2018, 12:03:14 PM
4 is not some b cox type R&B..
and dangerously in love has "pop" records on them
the only difference is that some of rihanna albums have EDM tracks on it..
please..
rih and bey are both one in the same..
if rih is pop
so is beyonce
f
Y'all main arguement about Rihanna in stan battles is that she's some super diverse genre bending artist.
Rock! Folk! Experimental!
Don't try to act like her & Bey are similar now. :dead:
Quote from: M'Baku on March 09, 2018, 11:55:09 AM
I'll say this..
there should be more r&b categories
and they should be split into R&B/Soul and Contemporary R&B
rather than shoving them all together..
because it is unfair to box Lalah Hathaway against someone like Beyonce..
ill say that
s
and rih not an R&B artist :dead:
she is genre bending..
yet her base is always R&B
what is so hard to understand lol
she just pulls all of this off better than beyonce :dead:
if rih is pop.. so is beyonce. Flat owt
Quote from: Vibrant on March 09, 2018, 12:03:07 PM
Not Love On The Brain & Work being hip hop
Not love on the brain but Work is def not rnb
If work is rnb what do you call Jill Scott's "long walk"
Brandy "full moon". erykah badu "window seat"
Would you put all those on the same category as needed me and work? Lmao
i keep bran fumed up..
its really an art imo
Quote from: Buddha on March 09, 2018, 11:46:27 AM
Quote from: M'Baku on March 09, 2018, 11:45:27 AM
Quote from: Buddha on March 09, 2018, 11:44:07 AM
Quote from: M'Baku on March 09, 2018, 11:36:38 AM
the only thing I feel about Bruno is that it is unfair that he gets tossed into the black categories at all the award shows..
he is a pop singer who does R&B songs.. really unfair advantage but that's it.
He is very upfront with his appreciation for blacks and how they have inspired him!
Rihanna also gets placed in the R&B categories at award shows but no one complains about that...lol
n
rihanna is r&b tho
and she is also black..
her r&b tunes are serviced like R&B records as well..
Rihanna is not an R&B artist
Quote from: TEXASbama on March 09, 2018, 12:07:14 PM
Quote from: Vibrant on March 09, 2018, 12:03:07 PM
Not Love On The Brain & Work being hip hop
Not love on the brain but Work is def not rnb
If work is rnb what do you call Jill Scott's "long walk"
Brandy "full moon". erykah badu "window seat"
Would you put all those on the same category as needed me and work? Lmao
jhvkb
work is an island R&B record
full moon is a pop r&b song
long walk is neo soul
and window seat is neo soul
Quote from: TEXASbama on March 09, 2018, 12:07:14 PM
Quote from: Vibrant on March 09, 2018, 12:03:07 PM
Not Love On The Brain & Work being hip hop
Not love on the brain but Work is def not rnb
If work is rnb what do you call Jill Scott's "long walk"
Brandy "full moon". erykah badu "window seat"
Would you put all those on the same category as needed me and work? Lmao
there are different kinds of R&B :plzstop:
Quote from: MARS. on March 09, 2018, 12:06:50 PM
and rih not an R&B artist :dead:
!!!!!!!!
But a Pon de replay to you too
Quote from: TEXASbama on March 09, 2018, 12:03:44 PM
Quote from: hai class. on March 09, 2018, 12:01:08 PM
Quote from: TEXASbama on March 09, 2018, 11:57:34 AM
Quote from: hai class. on March 09, 2018, 10:40:31 AM
Opinions indeed
"He's nothing but a wedding singer!"
With the amount of anger I see here, you'd think Bruno Mars was out here claiming he lived a thug life or something. Just being blatantly offensive or something. He sings R&B infused POP music.
And his father is a Puerto Rican man from Brooklyn. Like....
"He's not Black at all"
How do you know that? I see goddess obtained his DNA report prior to this session taking place.
Weren't you trying to say the same thing about cardi right when bodak went number 1 ?
If anything I was on here defending Cardi's use of the "n" word when interviews and articles began popping up to question her about it.
And trying to explain how closely knit Blacks and Hispanics are here in NYC.
Check the tapes before you roll them, Nick.
I checked the tapes including the hidden ones that yums never told you about.
You said cardi wasn't black and she shouldn't say the n word and that bodak yellow wasn't a success for black females in rap cause she wasn't black lolz
Check them more thoroughly.
Quote from: hai class. on November 26, 2017, 03:20:15 PM
Quote from: Uzi on November 26, 2017, 03:07:09 PM
I think it depends on your experiences too.
like I know yall girls in New York and other places go by proximity and aren't bothered hearing the N Word by certain people sometimes because alot of the time the context matches what you're used too.
In high school I didn't care who said the N word because I viewed it as a term of endearment, but I also lived in a majority black town and went to a majority black school. It wasn't until my freshmen year of college in Mississippi and hearing multiple white people use Nigga/Nigger interchangeably and in extremely offensive ways that my perception changed and I'm like nah white people can't ever say it cause I don't trust them with the word anymore. :uhh:
It's mainly hispanic people that use it with no problem here.
Being from NYC ( :supluv: ) , I just have an eye and ear for them so I automatically knew Cardi was Latina from the Bronx but, a lot of people here thought Cardi was African American. I think that's why its comfortable - many of them not only experience the same struggles of the hood but they look like us as well.
Fat Joe could easily walk in the hood and tell the gorls he's a light skinned African American man and no one even would question it.
(http://www.rap-up.com/app/uploads/2014/12/fat-joe.jpg)
It's really their culture/history that separates them as Puerto Ricans, Dominicans, etc. And some genetics/bloodlines are definitely different as well but there are plenty who could "pass" as Black or "mixed" if they wanted to.
They look like people of color.
Quote from: hai class. on February 16, 2018, 11:40:54 AM
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Well they lashed tf outta J. Lo when she said it. But then nobody cared about Angie Martinez.
I think it's more about culture than race at this point.
J.Lo only aligned herself with Black artists for personal gain - Murder Inc was like the hottest able at the time. SO her using it seems disingenuous.
Angie, Joe etc have always been a part of the "culture"
I don't agree. J Lo's from the Bronx - and she pointed out she lived (in that vidya where the old man couldn't figure out who she was :dead: :dead: ) She was def from the hood.
Castle Hill area of the BX has a mixture of Blacks and Latinos living among one another.
Puerto Ricans don't even have to apply for a pass here. They share the same space a lot of times, and many of them are clearly people of color, so they experience a lot of the same mess.
J-Lo is generally a pop artist so there's really no need for her to be using profanity at every twist and turn..which is why we didn't hear the "n" word a lot from her.
Just because Angie and Fat Joe are rappers instead of singers doesn't give them more of a right IMO. That's the only difference. It's all about where you come from. You can take someone out of the hood and "polish" them up a bit. Doesn't mean that they're not from the hood.
That video always tears me up!!!
:kii:
fucking death.
And that's definitely the hood.
Look @ those damn prison BARS placed on the windows of the house so no one can break in. :plzstop: :plzstop:
It's pretty standard in more....urban areas. :woohoo:
Yeah Rihanna is an R&B girl..
who has a machine behind her that allows her to reach pop audiences!
:dead:
Bruno wasnt crafted for black audiences.. period!
that is the difference ha ha
Quote from: Vibrant on March 09, 2018, 12:08:13 PM
Quote from: TEXASbama on March 09, 2018, 12:07:14 PM
Quote from: Vibrant on March 09, 2018, 12:03:07 PM
Not Love On The Brain & Work being hip hop
Not love on the brain but Work is def not rnb
If work is rnb what do you call Jill Scott's "long walk"
Brandy "full moon". erykah badu "window seat"
Would you put all those on the same category as needed me and work? Lmao
there are different kinds of R&B :plzstop:
yeah :plzstop: :plzstop:
these damn girls
"work" is, it's def not hip hop :plzstop:
it's an R&B dancehall infusion
Quote from: M'Baku on March 09, 2018, 12:06:52 PM
she is genre bending..
yet her base is always R&B
what is so hard to understand lol
she just pulls all of this off better than beyonce :dead:
if rih is pop.. so is beyonce. Flat owt
It's never been R&B.
Rih has nevenr given a Brandy, Faith Evans, Maxwell, Fantasia, Jaz Sullivan, Brian McKnight ect etc etc type of mess. That's R&B. Rihanna is Urban & Pop. She doesn't have a single R&B album and her making an R&B record every blue moon doesn't change anything.
:dead:
Quote from: Vibrant on March 09, 2018, 12:09:21 PM
"work" is, it's def not hip hop :plzstop:
it's an R&B dancehall infusion
yeah :plzstop:
Quote from: MARS. on March 09, 2018, 12:08:01 PM
Quote from: Buddha on March 09, 2018, 11:46:27 AM
Quote from: M'Baku on March 09, 2018, 11:45:27 AM
Quote from: Buddha on March 09, 2018, 11:44:07 AM
Quote from: M'Baku on March 09, 2018, 11:36:38 AM
the only thing I feel about Bruno is that it is unfair that he gets tossed into the black categories at all the award shows..
he is a pop singer who does R&B songs.. really unfair advantage but that's it.
He is very upfront with his appreciation for blacks and how they have inspired him!
Rihanna also gets placed in the R&B categories at award shows but no one complains about that...lol
n
rihanna is r&b tho
and she is also black..
her r&b tunes are serviced like R&B records as well..
Rihanna is not an R&B artist
Quote from: Andrais. on March 09, 2018, 12:09:38 PM
Quote from: M'Baku on March 09, 2018, 12:06:52 PM
she is genre bending..
yet her base is always R&B
what is so hard to understand lol
she just pulls all of this off better than beyonce :dead:
if rih is pop.. so is beyonce. Flat owt
It's never been R&B.
Rih has nevenr given a Brandy, Faith Evans, Maxwell, Fantasia, Jaz Sullivan, Brian McKnight ect etc etc type of mess. That's R&B. Rihanna is Urban & Pop. She doesn't have a single R&B album and her making an R&B record every blue moon doesn't change anything.
:dead:
there are several different forms of rhythm and blues :plzstop:
even brandy doesnt make Jill scott or mazwell type R&B..She doesnt even give jaz sullivan
and brian is different from all the artist youve listed!
DEAD
Anti is a contemporary r&b album with Pop gems on it.
FLAT THE FUCK OWT
Quote from: Vibrant on March 09, 2018, 12:09:21 PM
"work" is, it's def not hip hop :plzstop:
it's an R&B dancehall infusion
Not rnb dance hall infusion.
Traditional R&B, Contemporary R&B, Alternative R&B, then there's different fusions with soul, pop, rock, hip hop, dancehall ect
Black music doesn't have to follow one format
Do "Kiss It Better" & "Love On The Brain" really sound like Hip Hop songs to you? :ummwhat:
Quote from: Andrais. on March 09, 2018, 12:09:38 PM
Quote from: M'Baku on March 09, 2018, 12:06:52 PM
she is genre bending..
yet her base is always R&B
what is so hard to understand lol
she just pulls all of this off better than beyonce :dead:
if rih is pop.. so is beyonce. Flat owt
It's never been R&B.
Rih has nevenr given a Brandy, Faith Evans, Maxwell, Fantasia, Jaz Sullivan, Brian McKnight ect etc etc type of mess. That's R&B. Rihanna is Urban & Pop. She doesn't have a single R&B album and her making an R&B record every blue moon doesn't change anything.
:dead:
Quote from: Andrais. on March 09, 2018, 12:09:38 PM
Quote from: M'Baku on March 09, 2018, 12:06:52 PM
she is genre bending..
yet her base is always R&B
what is so hard to understand lol
she just pulls all of this off better than beyonce :dead:
if rih is pop.. so is beyonce. Flat owt
It's never been R&B.
Rih has nevenr given a Brandy, Faith Evans, Maxwell, Fantasia, Jaz Sullivan, Brian McKnight ect etc etc type of mess. That's R&B. Rihanna is Urban & Pop. She doesn't have a single R&B album and her making an R&B record every blue moon doesn't change anything.
:dead:
Damn you preaching!
Wtf did this blow up in pages
Quote from: TEXASbama on March 09, 2018, 12:11:40 PM
Quote from: Vibrant on March 09, 2018, 12:09:21 PM
"work" is, it's def not hip hop :plzstop:
it's an R&B dancehall infusion
Not rnb dance hall infusion.
Yes, R&B/Dancehall
you don't hear the dancehall influence in the song?
Quote from: M'Baku on March 09, 2018, 12:10:54 PM
Quote from: Andrais. on March 09, 2018, 12:09:38 PM
Quote from: M'Baku on March 09, 2018, 12:06:52 PM
she is genre bending..
yet her base is always R&B
what is so hard to understand lol
she just pulls all of this off better than beyonce :dead:
if rih is pop.. so is beyonce. Flat owt
It's never been R&B.
Rih has nevenr given a Brandy, Faith Evans, Maxwell, Fantasia, Jaz Sullivan, Brian McKnight ect etc etc type of mess. That's R&B. Rihanna is Urban & Pop. She doesn't have a single R&B album and her making an R&B record every blue moon doesn't change anything.
:dead:
there are several different forms of rhythm and blues :plzstop:
And Rihanna is none of them.
LIKE..
Maxwell
Erykah Badu
Jill Scott
they make the same type of R&B
Brandy
Jhene
Frank Ocean
they all make experimental R&B
Monica
Keyshia
Mary
Faith Evans
R Kelly
same type of R&B
Rihanna
Beyonce
Usher
they make the same type of R&B!
DSFGDSFAFBCDSADFCVSDVFBCDSGFNB
Quote from: Vibrant on March 09, 2018, 12:13:28 PM
Quote from: TEXASbama on March 09, 2018, 12:11:40 PM
Quote from: Vibrant on March 09, 2018, 12:09:21 PM
"work" is, it's def not hip hop :plzstop:
it's an R&B dancehall infusion
Not rnb dance hall infusion.
Yes, R&B/Dancehall
you don't hear the dancehall influence in the song?
I personally don't hear the R&B tbh
stop being so limited girls!
Quote from: Andrais. on March 09, 2018, 12:05:43 PM
Quote from: M'Baku on March 09, 2018, 12:03:14 PM
4 is not some b cox type R&B..
and dangerously in love has "pop" records on them
the only difference is that some of rihanna albums have EDM tracks on it..
please..
rih and bey are both one in the same..
if rih is pop
so is beyonce
f
Y'all main arguement about Rihanna in stan battles is that she's some super diverse genre bending artist.
Rock! Folk! Experimental!
Don't try to act like her & Bey are similar now. :dead:
:kii: :kii: :kii:
Quote from: MARS. on March 09, 2018, 12:14:04 PM
Quote from: Vibrant on March 09, 2018, 12:13:28 PM
Quote from: TEXASbama on March 09, 2018, 12:11:40 PM
Quote from: Vibrant on March 09, 2018, 12:09:21 PM
"work" is, it's def not hip hop :plzstop:
it's an R&B dancehall infusion
Not rnb dance hall infusion.
Yes, R&B/Dancehall
you don't hear the dancehall influence in the song?
I personally don't hear the R&B tbh
To each their own, but it's def a Hip Hop song
Quote from: M'Baku on March 09, 2018, 12:14:00 PM
LIKE..
Maxwell
Erykah Badu
Jill Scott
they make the same type of R&B
Brandy
Jhene
Frank Ocean
they all make experimental R&B
Monica
Keyshia
Mary
Faith Evans
R Kelly
same type of R&B
Rihanna
Beyonce
Usher
they make the same type of R&B!
DSFGDSFAFBCDSADFCVSDVFBCDSGFNB
Rihanna's name doesn't even fit in with these people.
Usher & Beyonc? have R&B albums.
Quote from: Andrais. on March 09, 2018, 12:15:45 PM
Quote from: M'Baku on March 09, 2018, 12:14:00 PM
LIKE..
Maxwell
Erykah Badu
Jill Scott
they make the same type of R&B
Brandy
Jhene
Frank Ocean
they all make experimental R&B
Monica
Keyshia
Mary
Faith Evans
R Kelly
same type of R&B
Rihanna
Beyonce
Usher
they make the same type of R&B!
DSFGDSFAFBCDSADFCVSDVFBCDSGFNB
Rihanna's name doesn't even fit in with these people.
Usher & Beyonc? have R&B albums.
hcfgvjbknl
im crying!
usher has a full r&b album and that is his debut album :dead:
he still has pop gems on every album after that
GIRL
One of my white coworkers just made an announcement about the anniversary of BIggie's death. And are making a bit of a kii out of it. "Let's have a round table mess about whether he was the illest or nah"
I just...
(https://media.giphy.com/media/BAcL6li9HFJcs/giphy.gif)
Now this is the shit that gets under my skin.
Damn glock is getting dragged
And Beyonce is so pretty and talented and Urban <3333
My new queen tbh
beyonce has pop records on every one of her albums
so this theory isnt making sense
Quote from: M'Baku on March 09, 2018, 12:17:44 PM
usher has a full r&b album
Yeah we know
Rihanna doesn't
:dead:
Quote from: LORD GRAND SUPREME PRIME CELESTIAL MARSHALL on March 09, 2018, 12:17:54 PM
Damn glock is getting dragged
And Beyonce is so pretty and talented and Urban <3333
My new queen tbh
no one even recognizes the "Usher" album :dead:
so yeah.. he, Rih and Bey are the same type of R&B gorls
:guys:
And Nick lemme know once you're done wiping that egg off your face hun.
I see you got quiet.
I'm screaming
Love On The Brain!
Nobody thinks of songs like that when they think of Rihanna
Don't Stop The Music
Disturbia
S&M
Shut Up & Drive
We Found Love
etc etc
They think of the Pop/EDM/Dance mess or her gritty urban records
But a Mary J Blige to you too
tears at you conveniently leaving out her big ass urban records that everyone references
You're a kii
Umbrella
work
Pour it up
bitch better have my money
pon de replay
rude boy
needed me
WOW.. this girl really is a true ass blend of r&b and Pop huh?
again back to my first statement
she simply pulls it off better than beyonce.. and you're mad about it
they are both the same type of R&b
Quote from: Freeruu on March 09, 2018, 10:12:54 AM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_awards_and_nominations_received_by_Prince#Grammy_Award
Damn @ none of Prince's albums nabbing AOTY :omgwatshappening:
he sucks
perfectly understandable
i'll just say it
fuck prince & this bitch
How is Pour It Up an R&B song lol
Said the fucking Dreezy stan
girl if you were in front of me right now...
If Mike Will gave that record to Miley you would not be calling it R&B
Quote from: M'Baku on March 09, 2018, 12:25:06 PM
tears at you conveniently leaving out her big ass urban records that everyone references
You're a kii
Umbrella
work
Pour it up
bitch better have my money
pon de replay
rude boy
needed me
WOW.. this girl really is a true ass blend of r&b and Pop huh?
again back to my first statement
she simply pulls it off better than beyonce.. and you're mad about it
they are both the same type of R&b
The whole structure of "Umbrella" is Pop with mild influences from other genres. None of that other mess is R&B.
Quote from: Buddha on March 09, 2018, 12:26:14 PM
How is Pour It Up an R&B song lol
DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDFDFDFD
Quote from: Vibrant on March 09, 2018, 12:26:44 PM
Said the fucking Dreezy stan
girl if you were in front of me right now...
fuck janet too bitch
not pour it fckin up :kii:
Quote from: Kaeli. on March 09, 2018, 12:27:49 PM
Quote from: Vibrant on March 09, 2018, 12:26:44 PM
Said the fucking Dreezy stan
girl if you were in front of me right now...
fuck janet too bitch
(http://i.imgur.com/iZg4Zxg.jpg)
Quote from: Buddha on March 09, 2018, 12:26:14 PM
How is Pour It Up an R&B song lol
how is it not? :uhh:
idk if i would box rihanna into one genre
lemme go back and read this argument
Quote from: hai class. on March 09, 2018, 12:21:33 PM
And Nick lemme know once you're done wiping that egg off your face hun.
I see you got quiet.
I'm not quiet just not ready to read one of your novels at this point in time sis.
PIU is a trap song
Quote from: TEXASbama on March 09, 2018, 12:29:29 PM
Quote from: hai class. on March 09, 2018, 12:21:33 PM
And Nick lemme know once you're done wiping that egg off your face hun.
I see you got quiet.
I'm not quiet just not ready to read one of your novels at this point in time sis.
whoa what happened?
it isnt 97 anymore
that is a 2010's r&b style song sdbvbd
:dead:
Quote from: M'Baku on March 09, 2018, 12:29:09 PM
Quote from: Buddha on March 09, 2018, 12:26:14 PM
How is Pour It Up an R&B song lol
how is it not? :uhh:
It's a strip club anthem if anything. Def not a rnb song lolz
Quote from: Andrais. on March 09, 2018, 12:26:55 PM
Quote from: M'Baku on March 09, 2018, 12:25:06 PM
tears at you conveniently leaving out her big ass urban records that everyone references
You're a kii
Umbrella
work
Pour it up
bitch better have my money
pon de replay
rude boy
needed me
WOW.. this girl really is a true ass blend of r&b and Pop huh?
again back to my first statement
she simply pulls it off better than beyonce.. and you're mad about it
they are both the same type of R&b
The whole structure of "Umbrella" is Pop with mild influences from other genres. None of that other mess is R&B.
structure!its an r&b/pop record..
Would y'all consider put it down as an rnb song ?
Quote from: Buddha on March 09, 2018, 12:26:51 PM
If Mike Will gave that record to Miley you would not be calling it R&B
The KI is Miley could sing ALOT of Rih's shit bur R&B!
So could Katy & Gaga honestly.
Quote from: TEXASbama on March 09, 2018, 12:30:33 PM
Quote from: M'Baku on March 09, 2018, 12:29:09 PM
Quote from: Buddha on March 09, 2018, 12:26:14 PM
How is Pour It Up an R&B song lol
how is it not? :uhh:
It's a strip club anthem if anything. Def not a rnb song lolz
so what
R Kellys "Seem like your ready" is a strip club song as well
PIU is a r&b song..
it has trap elements but that doesnt take away from its R&B base
Yea Rih is a Pop artist with a few Urban/ R&B songs
Don?t see why Beyonc? who is R&B with a few pop songs
DIL, 4, Bday, Beyonc? and Lemonade are R&B for the most part
Sasha is Pop
No Rihanna album is R&B like those. Everyone knows she?s mainly Pop
Quote from: TEXASbama on March 09, 2018, 12:29:29 PM
Quote from: hai class. on March 09, 2018, 12:21:33 PM
And Nick lemme know once you're done wiping that egg off your face hun.
I see you got quiet.
I'm not quiet just not ready to read one of your novels at this point in time sis.
Didn't type a novel. I quoted two posts I made in the past which directly disprove whatever the hell you were trying to get at.
Know what the fuck you're talking about before you speak on something.
And don't ask me questions that you don't want an answer to.
Quote from: Andrais. on March 09, 2018, 12:31:12 PM
Quote from: Buddha on March 09, 2018, 12:26:51 PM
If Mike Will gave that record to Miley you would not be calling it R&B
The KI is Miley could sing ALOT of Rih's shit bur R&B!
So could Katy & Gaga honestly.
and so could beyonce
what does that mean?
anyone with vocal cords could...
whats ur point?
isn't pour it up trap
afjsdilk;;;;;;;;;ipsdifklcasi
Glock wtf
Quote from: AYR on March 09, 2018, 12:31:49 PM
Yea Rih is a Pop artist with a few Urban/ R&B songs
Don?t see why Beyonc? who is R&B with a few pop songs
DIL, 4, Bday, Beyonc? and Lemonade are R&B for the most part
Sasha is Pop
No Rihanna album is R&B like those. Everyone knows she?s mainly Pop
Quote from: Kaeli. on March 09, 2018, 12:32:12 PM
isn't pour it up trap
afjsdilk;;;;;;;;;ipsdifklcasi
:plzstop: :plzstop:
for the way r&b is created now
POUR IT UP is R&B
it has the same pattern of a DRUNK IN LOVE.. or Tanks "when we"
all r&b records!
im crying!
yall really dont know music... PERIOD!
R&B FOR THE MOST PART!
im crying!
:dead:
Quote from: M'Baku on March 09, 2018, 12:30:48 PM
Quote from: Andrais. on March 09, 2018, 12:26:55 PM
Quote from: M'Baku on March 09, 2018, 12:25:06 PM
tears at you conveniently leaving out her big ass urban records that everyone references
You're a kii
Umbrella
work
Pour it up
bitch better have my money
pon de replay
rude boy
needed me
WOW.. this girl really is a true ass blend of r&b and Pop huh?
again back to my first statement
she simply pulls it off better than beyonce.. and you're mad about it
they are both the same type of R&b
The whole structure of "Umbrella" is Pop with mild influences from other genres. None of that other mess is R&B.
structure!
its an r&b/pop record..
It's a Pop record with Urban & "R&B" elements just like Rihanna is a Pop artist with elements of other mess. She didn't even started fucking it heavily until Talk That Talk, her 6th album. :kii:
neither Beyonce or Rihanna have a full "R&B" ALBUM...
:dead:
yet they land in the same genre
Pour It Up is Urban. I guess it can be categorized as R&B
Quote from: MARS. on March 09, 2018, 12:32:40 PM
Quote from: AYR on March 09, 2018, 12:31:49 PM
Yea Rih is a Pop artist with a few Urban/ R&B songs
Don?t see why Beyonc? who is R&B with a few pop songs
DIL, 4, Bday, Beyonc? and Lemonade are R&B for the most part
Sasha is Pop
No Rihanna album is R&B like those. Everyone knows she?s mainly Pop
Quote from: AYR on March 09, 2018, 12:35:15 PM
Pour It Up is Urban. I guess it can be categorized as R&B
I was kinda laughing but i kinda see his point when bringing up Drunk in Love & When We
All of Bey?s albums are R&B except Sasha.
What song is Pop on B day?
Beyonce & Rihanna definitely aren't the same type of artists tho
What's pop on Dangerously in love
Nothing's Really Pop on B'Day either
or Lemons
or 4
either way, Beyonce's pop songs are all urban influenced. She's never really done a FULL pop mess like Don't Stop the Music or We Found Love
And you keep hollering about all the singles off Anti being "R&B" but she only put out like 3 singles and there's 16 songs on the album.
The foundation of her music has always R&B
Quote from: Kaeli. on March 09, 2018, 12:37:44 PM
either way, Beyonce's pop songs are all urban influenced.
:letsmessfag:
Quote from: Kaeli. on March 09, 2018, 12:36:19 PM
Quote from: AYR on March 09, 2018, 12:35:15 PM
Pour It Up is Urban. I guess it can be categorized as R&B
I was kinda laughing but i kinda see his point when bringing up Drunk in Love & When We
im giggling
R&B and music as a whole is ever changing
These songs may not fit the traditional mold but there are a form what R&B has come to
But
n!
r u tryna have the last laugh
Quote from: Andrais. on March 09, 2018, 12:37:59 PM
And you keep hollering about all the singles off Anti being "R&B" but she only put out like 3 singles and there's 16 songs on the album.
she put out
Work, love, needed me and kiss it better ..
u don?t know how to count?
Also Sex with me was serviced to urban radio
And bitch better have my money was also released during the era
But
pop!
Quote from: M'Baku on March 09, 2018, 12:42:18 PM
Quote from: Andrais. on March 09, 2018, 12:37:59 PM
And you keep hollering about all the singles off Anti being "R&B" but she only put out like 3 singles and there's 16 songs on the album.
she put out
Work, love, needed me and kiss it better ..
u don?t know how to count?
Also Sex with me was serviced to urban radio
And bitch better have my money was also released during the era
But pop!
She had 3 singles.
Sending album tracks out to random formats doesn't make them singles.
And BBHMM isn't on the album. :dead:
Quote from: Kaeli. on March 09, 2018, 12:41:38 PM
r u tryna have the last laugh
Either way he's still wrong.
Quote from: Kaeli. on March 09, 2018, 12:37:44 PM
Beyonce & Rihanna definitely aren't the same type of artists tho
What's pop on Dangerously in love
Nothing's Really Pop on B'Day either
or Lemons
or 4
either way, Beyonce's pop songs are all urban influenced. She's never really done a FULL pop mess like Don't Stop the Music or We Found Love
whew
I?m glad u asked hun
DANGEROUS
1.) Crazy in love
2.) hip hop star
3.) naughty girl
4.) baby boy (if you bitches wanna claim ?work? isn?t R&b.. what?s good)
bday
Get me bodied
Listen (if Stay is pop.. so is this MESS)
Irreplaceable (if ?take the bow? is pop.. so is this MESS)
deja Vu (if umbrella ain?t fuckinng R&B)
lemonade.. Tears
Hold up (if Pon de replay ain?t and work as well fags)
Don?t hurt yourself (ain?t R&B)
6 inch
Daddy lessons (country)
Sandcastle (pop if Stay is pop)
Forward (POP)
All night
WHAT THE FUCK IS GEWd
Quote from: M'Baku on March 09, 2018, 12:41:03 PM
Quote from: Kaeli. on March 09, 2018, 12:36:19 PM
Quote from: AYR on March 09, 2018, 12:35:15 PM
Pour It Up is Urban. I guess it can be categorized as R&B
I was kinda laughing but i kinda see his point when bringing up Drunk in Love & When We
im giggling
R&B and music as a whole is ever changing
These songs may not fit the traditional mold but there are a form what R&B has come to
But n!
Wouldn't you agree that R&B should at least have soul in it???
Quote from: Andrais. on March 09, 2018, 12:45:13 PM
Quote from: M'Baku on March 09, 2018, 12:42:18 PM
Quote from: Andrais. on March 09, 2018, 12:37:59 PM
And you keep hollering about all the singles off Anti being "R&B" but she only put out like 3 singles and there's 16 songs on the album.
she put out
Work, love, needed me and kiss it better ..
u don?t know how to count?
Also Sex with me was serviced to urban radio
And bitch better have my money was also released during the era
But pop!
She had 3 singles.
Sending album tracks out to random formats doesn't make them singles.
And BBHMM isn't on the album. :dead:
]I referred to the era when I mentioned anti fag
And she had 4 singles
What don?t u get
Work, brain, needed me and kiss it better
Brains vidya was canceled last minute
Quote from: M'Baku on March 09, 2018, 12:48:41 PM
Quote from: Andrais. on March 09, 2018, 12:45:13 PM
Quote from: M'Baku on March 09, 2018, 12:42:18 PM
Quote from: Andrais. on March 09, 2018, 12:37:59 PM
And you keep hollering about all the singles off Anti being "R&B" but she only put out like 3 singles and there's 16 songs on the album.
she put out
Work, love, needed me and kiss it better ..
u don?t know how to count?
Also Sex with me was serviced to urban radio
And bitch better have my money was also released during the era
But pop!
I referred to the era when I mentioned ain?t fag
And she had 4 singles
What don?t u get
Work, brain, needed me and kiss it better
Brains vidya was canceled last minute
She had 3 singles.
Sending album tracks out to random formats doesn't make them singles.
And BBHMM isn't on the album. :dead:
g
Quote from: Buddha on March 09, 2018, 12:47:34 PM
Quote from: M'Baku on March 09, 2018, 12:41:03 PM
Quote from: Kaeli. on March 09, 2018, 12:36:19 PM
Quote from: AYR on March 09, 2018, 12:35:15 PM
Pour It Up is Urban. I guess it can be categorized as R&B
I was kinda laughing but i kinda see his point when bringing up Drunk in Love & When We
im giggling
R&B and music as a whole is ever changing
These songs may not fit the traditional mold but there are a form what R&B has come to
But n!
Wouldn't you agree that R&B should at least have soul in it???
Not in 2018 it doesn?t have to
Soul and R&B are different
and they both have sub genres
Quote from: Andrais. on March 09, 2018, 12:45:13 PM
Quote from: M'Baku on March 09, 2018, 12:42:18 PM
Quote from: Andrais. on March 09, 2018, 12:37:59 PM
And you keep hollering about all the singles off Anti being "R&B" but she only put out like 3 singles and there's 16 songs on the album.
she put out
Work, love, needed me and kiss it better ..
u don?t know how to count?
Also Sex with me was serviced to urban radio
And bitch better have my money was also released during the era
But pop!
She had 3 singles.
Sending album tracks out to random formats doesn't make them singles.
And BBHMM isn't on the album. :dead:
AND she also did 4,5 Seconds, American Oxygen, Sledgehammer, This Is What You Came For etc during the era if we?re adding non album songs
The girl is Pop
Quote from: AYR on March 09, 2018, 12:51:00 PM
Quote from: Andrais. on March 09, 2018, 12:45:13 PM
Quote from: M'Baku on March 09, 2018, 12:42:18 PM
Quote from: Andrais. on March 09, 2018, 12:37:59 PM
And you keep hollering about all the singles off Anti being "R&B" but she only put out like 3 singles and there's 16 songs on the album.
she put out
Work, love, needed me and kiss it better ..
u don?t know how to count?
Also Sex with me was serviced to urban radio
And bitch better have my money was also released during the era
But pop!
She had 3 singles.
Sending album tracks out to random formats doesn't make them singles.
And BBHMM isn't on the album. :dead:
AND she also did 4,5 Seconds, American Oxygen, Sledgehammer, This Is What You Came For etc during the era if we?re adding non album songs
The girl is Pop
OMG I forgot about all these random ass songs. And none of them are remotely R&B.
:plzstop:
Quote from: Kaeli. on March 09, 2018, 12:41:38 PM
r u tryna have the last laugh
that boy will say anything
:guys:
Quote from: M'Baku on March 09, 2018, 12:47:29 PM
Quote from: Kaeli. on March 09, 2018, 12:37:44 PM
Beyonce & Rihanna definitely aren't the same type of artists tho
What's pop on Dangerously in love
Nothing's Really Pop on B'Day either
or Lemons
or 4
either way, Beyonce's pop songs are all urban influenced. She's never really done a FULL pop mess like Don't Stop the Music or We Found Love
whew
I?m glad u asked hun
DANGEROUS
1.) Crazy in love
2.) hip hop star
3.) naughty girl
4.) baby boy (if you bitches wanna claim ?work? isn?t R&b.. what?s good)
bday
Get me bodied
Listen (if Stay is pop.. so is this MESS)
Irreplaceable (if ?take the bow? is pop.. so is this MESS)
deja Vu (if umbrella ain?t fuckinng R&B)
lemonade.. Tears
Hold up (if Pon de replay ain?t and work as well fags)
Don?t hurt yourself (ain?t R&B)
6 inch
Daddy lessons (country)
Sandcastle (pop if Stay is pop)
Forward (POP)
All night
WHAT THE FUCK IS GEWd
is this real life
Yeah i didn?t fucking lie
I?m sitting on a board full of Rihanna haters :dead:
My point has been MADE.. and can?t be dispelled
So yeah.
Rihanna, Usher and Bey are the same form of R&B Girls.
The end
po' it ahp
po' it ahp
(http://i.imgur.com/ohS4PeJ.gif)
my man doesn't BACK down from a fight :welllol:
Quote from: LORD GRAND SUPREME PRIME CELESTIAL MARSHALL on March 09, 2018, 12:53:20 PM
Quote from: M'Baku on March 09, 2018, 12:47:29 PM
Quote from: Kaeli. on March 09, 2018, 12:37:44 PM
Beyonce & Rihanna definitely aren't the same type of artists tho
What's pop on Dangerously in love
Nothing's Really Pop on B'Day either
or Lemons
or 4
either way, Beyonce's pop songs are all urban influenced. She's never really done a FULL pop mess like Don't Stop the Music or We Found Love
whew
I?m glad u asked hun
DANGEROUS
1.) Crazy in love
2.) hip hop star
3.) naughty girl
4.) baby boy (if you bitches wanna claim ?work? isn?t R&b.. what?s good)
bday
Get me bodied
Listen (if Stay is pop.. so is this MESS)
Irreplaceable (if ?take the bow? is pop.. so is this MESS)
deja Vu (if umbrella ain?t fuckinng R&B)
lemonade.. Tears
Hold up (if Pon de replay ain?t and work as well fags)
Don?t hurt yourself (ain?t R&B)
6 inch
Daddy lessons (country)
Sandcastle (pop if Stay is pop)
Forward (POP)
All night
WHAT THE FUCK IS GEWd
is this real life
I'm screaming
No Beyonc? album is predominantly Pop outside of Sasha.
And like Kae said even her Pop songs are rooted in R&B/Urban elements.
Bey is not recording Britney, Katy, Gaga, Miley type mess. They could easily do alot of Rih's music up to her last 3 albums and even then they could still do certain records.
That fat girl will never be R&B.
Quote from: M'Baku on March 09, 2018, 12:47:29 PM
Quote from: Kaeli. on March 09, 2018, 12:37:44 PM
Beyonce & Rihanna definitely aren't the same type of artists tho
What's pop on Dangerously in love
Nothing's Really Pop on B'Day either
or Lemons
or 4
either way, Beyonce's pop songs are all urban influenced. She's never really done a FULL pop mess like Don't Stop the Music or We Found Love
whew
I?m glad u asked hun
DANGEROUS
1.) Crazy in love
2.) hip hop star
3.) naughty girl
4.) baby boy (if you bitches wanna claim ?work? isn?t R&b.. what?s goo
n
The only non R&B one here is Baby Boy
Crazy in Love is a sample of the Chi-lites a old soul group
Naughty Girl is very disco meets Rick James/ Vanity 6
Hip Hop Star is like Hip Hop
Nothing is Pop about DIL boy bye
Quote from: M'Baku on March 09, 2018, 12:47:29 PM
Quote from: Kaeli. on March 09, 2018, 12:37:44 PM
Beyonce & Rihanna definitely aren't the same type of artists tho
What's pop on Dangerously in love
Nothing's Really Pop on B'Day either
or Lemons
or 4
either way, Beyonce's pop songs are all urban influenced. She's never really done a FULL pop mess like Don't Stop the Music or We Found Love
whew
I?m glad u asked hun
DANGEROUS
1.) Crazy in love
2.) hip hop star
3.) naughty girl
4.) baby boy (if you bitches wanna claim ?work? isn?t R&b.. what?s good)
bday
Get me bodied
Listen (if Stay is pop.. so is this MESS)
Irreplaceable (if ?take the bow? is pop.. so is this MESS)
deja Vu (if umbrella ain?t fuckinng R&B)
Listen is a hidden bonus
Get Me Bodied and Deja ESPECIALLY are R&B
and Umbrella sounds nothing like Deja Vu
(https://i.imgur.com/Peh5rMQ.png)
https://twitter.com/TheGrapevineTV/status/972147397789921280
Damn they blocked queen for preaching :omgwatshappening:
Quote from: hai class. on March 09, 2018, 12:31:55 PM
Quote from: TEXASbama on March 09, 2018, 12:29:29 PM
Quote from: hai class. on March 09, 2018, 12:21:33 PM
And Nick lemme know once you're done wiping that egg off your face hun.
I see you got quiet.
I'm not quiet just not ready to read one of your novels at this point in time sis.
Didn't type a novel. I quoted two posts I made in the past which directly disprove whatever the hell you were trying to get at.
Know what the fuck you're talking about before you speak on something.
And don't ask me questions that you don't want an answer to.
Two posts out of 100s where you discredited cardi lolz
I love us for real honestly and truly
On Lemonade
Sorry
Love Drought
Freedom
All Night
6 Inch
Formation
Are all R&B
This whole cultural appropriation argument is pointless. A lot of these new black artists clearly don't take their time to study or pay respects to our legends, so why is it okay for them to exploit the culture? Because they're black?
And the vitriol against Bruno Mars really boils down to a lot of people being mad that he came along snatched the career everyone thought Chris Brown was gonna have before he went tasmanian devil on Rih.
Quote from: ANIMMAI on March 09, 2018, 01:13:14 PM
This whole cultural appropriation argument is pointless. A lot of these new black artists clearly don't take their time to study or pay respects to our legends, so why is it okay for them to exploit the culture? Because they're black?
And the vitriol against Bruno Mars really boils down to a lot of people being mad that he came along snatched the career everyone thought Chris Brown was gonna have before he went tasmanian devil on Rih.
#facts but the shade is CHRIS BROWN has an amazing career. He gets plaques, radio play, and hits out the ass! He even crossed over during his FAME era! Chris isnt struggling so what the old white guys arent giving him grammys. who the fuck cares!?
Quote from: TEXASbama on March 09, 2018, 01:08:18 PM
Quote from: hai class. on March 09, 2018, 12:31:55 PM
Quote from: TEXASbama on March 09, 2018, 12:29:29 PM
Quote from: hai class. on March 09, 2018, 12:21:33 PM
And Nick lemme know once you're done wiping that egg off your face hun.
I see you got quiet.
I'm not quiet just not ready to read one of your novels at this point in time sis.
Didn't type a novel. I quoted two posts I made in the past which directly disprove whatever the hell you were trying to get at.
Know what the fuck you're talking about before you speak on something.
And don't ask me questions that you don't want an answer to.
Two posts out of 100s where you discredited cardi lolz
I love us for real honestly and truly
Saying someone sucks as an artist is totally different than me saying Cardi has no right to do hip hop because she's Hispanic. I would NEVER say that and you'd never find a post of me even insinuating such foolishness if you spent all day trying.
Bye, Nick.
Are you even fully aware of which point you're trying to make?
Quote from: Freeruu on March 09, 2018, 01:05:44 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/Peh5rMQ.png)
https://twitter.com/TheGrapevineTV/status/972147397789921280
Damn they blocked queen for preaching :omgwatshappening:
Maybe she shouldn't have said something about him dying tomorrow and baking a cake.
:receipts:
Quote from: Vibrant on March 09, 2018, 11:08:03 AM
Quote from: AYR on March 09, 2018, 11:05:56 AM
Quote from: Vibrant on March 09, 2018, 11:00:46 AM
With Bruno I feel like he grew up with that kind of music, even though his interpretation of it is corny, you can tell he's sincere and genuine with it.
That "Finesse" song sounds like it came from a Bobby Brown album from the early 90's :dead:
Justin Timberlake is the bigger perp IMO, he profits from the culture and stays silent when it comes to black issue's.
I agree 100%
He?s corny, and I?m definitely not a fan especially of this era with
Everything completely copied from early 90s songs
but I don?t think he?s an appropriator. He is a person of color
It is unfair how he gets accolades and opportunities based on being less black than anyone else but that?s not his fault
Because I guarantee if someone like Trey, Chris Brown, Usher or even R.Kelly came out with that kind of music, radio wouldn't play it as much and award committee's and shows wouldn't even pay them any mind.
They won?t do the type of music that Bruno is doing. Chris and Trey are too fuckin comfortable where they?re at and R. Kelly is just R. Kelly. smh
Quote from: Andrais. on March 09, 2018, 01:27:54 PM
Quote from: Freeruu on March 09, 2018, 01:05:44 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/Peh5rMQ.png)
https://twitter.com/TheGrapevineTV/status/972147397789921280
Damn they blocked queen for preaching :omgwatshappening:
Maybe she shouldn't have said something about him dying tomorrow and baking a cake.
:receipts:
ffffffffff not queen giving a
passionate self
Quote from: Kaeli. on March 09, 2018, 12:32:12 PM
isn't pour it up trap
afjsdilk;;;;;;;;;ipsdifklcasi
n
Some gorls just need to take a permanent seat on owt
Quote from: ANIMMAI on March 09, 2018, 01:13:14 PM
This whole cultural appropriation argument is pointless. A lot of these new black artists clearly don't take their time to study or pay respects to our legends, so why is it okay for them to exploit the culture? Because they're black?
And the vitriol against Bruno Mars really boils down to a lot of people being mad that he came along snatched the career everyone thought Chris Brown was gonna have before he went tasmanian devil on Rih.
!!!!!!!!! All of this!!!!! And all Chris is known for now is having violent outbursts and ranting on Twitter or Instagram about something. Plus his music is horrible now. No growth at all. At least Bruno grew as an artist and made sure that each album and era was different from the last. Plus, he writes and produces his own shit. So it?s simple,
And didn?t Chris win a Grammy for one of his albums?
Quote from: M'Baku on March 09, 2018, 12:54:57 PM
Yeah i didn?t fucking lie
I?m sitting on a board full of Rihanna haters :dead:
My point has been MADE.. and can?t be dispelled
So yeah.
Rihanna, Usher and Bey are the same form of R&B Girls.
The end
m
Quote from: MelMel on March 09, 2018, 01:39:38 PM
Quote from: M'Baku on March 09, 2018, 12:54:57 PM
Yeah i didn?t fucking lie
I?m sitting on a board full of Rihanna haters :dead:
My point has been MADE.. and can?t be dispelled
So yeah.
Rihanna, Usher and Bey are the same form of R&B Girls.
The end
m
n
Quote from: Mu on March 09, 2018, 01:20:56 PM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on March 09, 2018, 01:13:14 PM
This whole cultural appropriation argument is pointless. A lot of these new black artists clearly don't take their time to study or pay respects to our legends, so why is it okay for them to exploit the culture? Because they're black?
And the vitriol against Bruno Mars really boils down to a lot of people being mad that he came along snatched the career everyone thought Chris Brown was gonna have before he went tasmanian devil on Rih.
#facts but the shade is CHRIS BROWN has an amazing career.
:udontlookok:
Quote from: M'Baku on March 09, 2018, 12:47:29 PM
Quote from: Kaeli. on March 09, 2018, 12:37:44 PM
Beyonce & Rihanna definitely aren't the same type of artists tho
What's pop on Dangerously in love
Nothing's Really Pop on B'Day either
or Lemons
or 4
either way, Beyonce's pop songs are all urban influenced. She's never really done a FULL pop mess like Don't Stop the Music or We Found Love
whew
I?m glad u asked hun
DANGEROUS
1.) Crazy in love
2.) hip hop star
3.) naughty girl
4.) baby boy (if you bitches wanna claim ?work? isn?t R&b.. what?s good)
bday
Get me bodied
Listen (if Stay is pop.. so is this MESS)
Irreplaceable (if ?take the bow? is pop.. so is this MESS)
deja Vu (if umbrella ain?t fuckinng R&B)
lemonade.. Tears
Hold up (if Pon de replay ain?t and work as well fags)
Don?t hurt yourself (ain?t R&B)
6 inch
Daddy lessons (country)
Sandcastle (pop if Stay is pop)
Forward (POP)
All night
WHAT THE FUCK IS GEWd
boy
/
Heartbreak On A Full Moon >>>> 24 Carrots
Quote from: ANIMMAI on March 09, 2018, 01:42:07 PM
Quote from: Mu on March 09, 2018, 01:20:56 PM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on March 09, 2018, 01:13:14 PM
This whole cultural appropriation argument is pointless. A lot of these new black artists clearly don't take their time to study or pay respects to our legends, so why is it okay for them to exploit the culture? Because they're black?
And the vitriol against Bruno Mars really boils down to a lot of people being mad that he came along snatched the career everyone thought Chris Brown was gonna have before he went tasmanian devil on Rih.
#facts but the shade is CHRIS BROWN has an amazing career.
:udontlookok:
i want to know which of his peers currently are getting cert's in plaques for their most recent singles and albums?
But honestly back to the topic.
Why didn't they mention Drake's fake Caribbean mess or all these white boys with face tattoos and trash ass rap music talmbout nigga every 5 seconds in their lyrics?
Or how about all the black artists who abandoned R&B to start acting like rappers. Bitches! Hos! Emo! Weed!
I usually side with the girls when they bring up appropriation but they picked the least problematic example. Bruno is always vocal about his influences and stays perched at the black award shows. Alot of black artists are too conceited to even give props to their predecessors and only go to the white mess.
And they fussing over grammys and shit when they don't want your black ass there to begin with.
:udontlookok:
Quote from: Andrais. on March 09, 2018, 02:21:35 PM
But honestly back to the topic.
:udontlookok:
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
stay on topic hun.
Quote from: Andrais. on March 09, 2018, 02:21:35 PM
But honestly back to the topic.
Why didn't they mention Drake's fake Caribbean mess or all these white boys with face tattoos and trash ass rap music talmbout nigga every 5 seconds in their lyrics?
Or how about all the black artists who abandoned R&B to start acting like rappers. Bitches! Hos! Emo! Weed!
I usually side with the girls when they bring up appropriation but they picked the least problematic example. Bruno is always vocal about his influences and stays perched at the black award shows. Alot of black artists are too conceited to even give props to their predecessors and only go to the white mess.
And they fussing over grammys and shit when they don't want your black ass there to begin with.
:udontlookok:
you DRAGGED the fuck out of them and told NOT ONE GOTDAMN lie! This SZA shit needs TO GO!!! The fact she is the face of R&B is so troubling to me! i like her but JUST NO!
Quote from: Andrais. on March 09, 2018, 11:54:38 AM
She's not
I still laugh how she skyrocketed to the top of the R&B charts after Billboard make that stupid rule change.
that was only bullshit because nothing about ?Diamonds? is R&B or hip hop :dead:
A bunch of girls living in yesteryears
What?s wrong with SZA she?s talented, works hard and actually makes good music
Quote from: M'Baku on March 09, 2018, 11:58:46 AM
Quote from: Buddha on March 09, 2018, 11:56:08 AM
Quote from: 1RIG on March 09, 2018, 11:51:16 AM
She's more R&B than bruno, i know that. even her album tracks if we AREN'T talking singles lol
people like Fauntleroy laced her with R&B IMO. it may not be the old school B.cox ballad kind, but hey.
Fauntleroy wrote that whole Bruno album. Rihanna is a pop artist that makes R&B songs. Just like Justin Timberlake and Bruno Mars.
what makes her more pop tho?
she isnt a conventional pop girl..
she is an r&b girl who reaches pop audiences period
Bruno?s recent album is a new edition rehash anyway. I?m speaking on bruno as a whole, not the exception that this latest album is.
He?s pop to me. Grenade and all them other corny ass songs
Quote from: TEXASbama on March 09, 2018, 12:02:25 PM
Quote from: Buddha on March 09, 2018, 12:00:45 PM
Quote from: M'Baku on March 09, 2018, 11:57:15 AM
Needed Me, Work, Love on the Brain, Kiss it better and bitch better have my money are all r&b records
See I think we have different definitions on what r&b is.
Yeah those were hip hop songs to me lolz def not rnb
R&B is much more than just Jermaine Dupri and B.cox, guys. Them days are over
Quote from: 1RIG on March 09, 2018, 02:26:17 PM
Quote from: Andrais. on March 09, 2018, 11:54:38 AM
She's not
I still laugh how she skyrocketed to the top of the R&B charts after Billboard make that stupid rule change.
that was only bullshit because nothing about ?Diamonds? is R&B or hip hop :dead:
definitely but I don?t think it was Diamonds :dead:
It was Birthday Cake I think
Quote from: Mu on March 09, 2018, 12:03:28 PM
Beyonce has never made a Pop Album / Outside of IASF and even those were very R&B rooted.
boy :kii: IASF wasn?t rooted in no damn R&B
She completely flipped and went for pop hit after pop hit. It just didn?t happen outside of single ladies
Quote from: 1RIG on March 09, 2018, 02:27:52 PM
Quote from: M'Baku on March 09, 2018, 11:58:46 AM
Quote from: Buddha on March 09, 2018, 11:56:08 AM
Quote from: 1RIG on March 09, 2018, 11:51:16 AM
She's more R&B than bruno, i know that. even her album tracks if we AREN'T talking singles lol
people like Fauntleroy laced her with R&B IMO. it may not be the old school B.cox ballad kind, but hey.
Fauntleroy wrote that whole Bruno album. Rihanna is a pop artist that makes R&B songs. Just like Justin Timberlake and Bruno Mars.
what makes her more pop tho?
she isnt a conventional pop girl..
she is an r&b girl who reaches pop audiences period
Bruno?s recent album is a new edition rehash anyway. I?m speaking on bruno as a whole, not the exception that this latest album is.
He?s pop to me. Grenade and all them other corny ass songs
yea, like Locked Outta Heaven etc
He?s Pop, so is she
Quote from: 1RIG on March 09, 2018, 02:29:46 PM
Quote from: Mu on March 09, 2018, 12:03:28 PM
Beyonce has never made a Pop Album / Outside of IASF and even those were very R&B rooted.
boy :kii: IASF wasn?t rooted in no damn R&B
She completely flipped and went for pop hit after pop hit. It just didn?t happen outside of single ladies
im crying honestly :dead:
yo quiero dinero
Quote from: Andrais. on March 09, 2018, 12:09:38 PM
Quote from: M'Baku on March 09, 2018, 12:06:52 PM
she is genre bending..
yet her base is always R&B
what is so hard to understand lol
she just pulls all of this off better than beyonce :dead:
if rih is pop.. so is beyonce. Flat owt
It's never been R&B.
Rih has nevenr given a Brandy, Faith Evans, Maxwell, Fantasia, Jaz Sullivan, Brian McKnight ect etc etc type of mess. That's R&B. Rihanna is Urban & Pop. She doesn't have a single R&B album and her making an R&B record every blue moon doesn't change anything.
:dead:
R&B isn?t just one thing, though. Cuz Brandy ain?t really in that category either if that?s the case :dead: her and Jazmine/faith Maxwell and those girls are not the same. Ew
You could argue Brandy was more pop/urban soul or whatever tf with the exception of TwoEleven. It can be argued that she?d never made a pure R&B album until 2012 with this line of thinking
Quote from: M'Baku on March 09, 2018, 12:10:54 PM
Quote from: Andrais. on March 09, 2018, 12:09:38 PM
Quote from: M'Baku on March 09, 2018, 12:06:52 PM
she is genre bending..
yet her base is always R&B
what is so hard to understand lol
she just pulls all of this off better than beyonce :dead:
if rih is pop.. so is beyonce. Flat owt
It's never been R&B.
Rih has nevenr given a Brandy, Faith Evans, Maxwell, Fantasia, Jaz Sullivan, Brian McKnight ect etc etc type of mess. That's R&B. Rihanna is Urban & Pop. She doesn't have a single R&B album and her making an R&B record every blue moon doesn't change anything.
:dead:
there are several different forms of rhythm and blues :plzstop:
even brandy doesnt make Jill scott or mazwell type R&B..She doesnt even give jaz sullivan
and brian is different from all the artist youve listed!
DEAD
!!!! Omg :kii: I?d damn near be offended if i were Bran ssssssdd
Love Jaz? and Jill Tho. too damn cool
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Quote from: Buddha on March 09, 2018, 12:00:45 PM
Quote from: M'Baku on March 09, 2018, 11:57:15 AM
Needed Me, Work, Love on the Brain, Kiss it better and bitch better have my money are all r&b records
See I think we have different definitions on what r&b is.
Yeah those were hip hop songs to me lolz def not rnb
R&B is much more than just Jermaine Dupri and B.cox, guys. Them days are over
I want those days back :stressed:
And yh Bruno is basically a Pop artist who experiments with Funk/Soul/Doo Wop whatever.
Fake woke gurs are acting like he's trying to be Luther Vandross or something. Bruno's music is super niche and generic and it works for him.
Quote from: M'Baku on March 09, 2018, 12:14:00 PM
LIKE..
Maxwell
Erykah Badu
Jill Scott
they make the same type of R&B
Brandy
Jhene
Frank Ocean
they all make experimental R&B
Monica
Keyshia
Mary
Faith Evans
R Kelly
same type of R&B
Rihanna
Beyonce
Usher
they make the same type of R&B!
DSFGDSFAFBCDSADFCVSDVFBCDSGFNB
M?baKU bitch ... ack!
Quote from: 1RIG on March 09, 2018, 02:35:44 PM
Quote from: Andrais. on March 09, 2018, 12:09:38 PM
Quote from: M'Baku on March 09, 2018, 12:06:52 PM
she is genre bending..
yet her base is always R&B
what is so hard to understand lol
she just pulls all of this off better than beyonce :dead:
if rih is pop.. so is beyonce. Flat owt
It's never been R&B.
Rih has nevenr given a Brandy, Faith Evans, Maxwell, Fantasia, Jaz Sullivan, Brian McKnight ect etc etc type of mess. That's R&B. Rihanna is Urban & Pop. She doesn't have a single R&B album and her making an R&B record every blue moon doesn't change anything.
:dead:
R&B isn?t just one thing, though. Cuz Brandy ain?t really in that category either if that?s the case :dead: her and Jazmine/faith Maxwell and those girls are not the same. Ew
You could argue Brandy was more pop/urban soul or whatever tf with the exception of TwoEleven. It can be argued that she?d never made a pure R&B album until 2012 with this line of thinking
Everybody that I mentioned has made an R&B album.
You can say whatever but Rihanna is not R&B period.
Quote from: Andrais. on March 09, 2018, 02:37:22 PM
And yh Bruno is basically a Pop artist who experiments with Funk/Soul/Doo Wop whatever.
Fake woke gurs are acting like he's trying to be Luther Vandross or something. Bruno's music is super niche and generic and it works for him.
more facts from this guy. close the thread. Post all Drais post in the beginning of the thread and dead this discussion.
Quote from: 1RIG on March 09, 2018, 02:35:44 PM
Quote from: Andrais. on March 09, 2018, 12:09:38 PM
Quote from: M'Baku on March 09, 2018, 12:06:52 PM
she is genre bending..
yet her base is always R&B
what is so hard to understand lol
she just pulls all of this off better than beyonce :dead:
if rih is pop.. so is beyonce. Flat owt
It's never been R&B.
Rih has nevenr given a Brandy, Faith Evans, Maxwell, Fantasia, Jaz Sullivan, Brian McKnight ect etc etc type of mess. That's R&B. Rihanna is Urban & Pop. She doesn't have a single R&B album and her making an R&B record every blue moon doesn't change anything.
:dead:
R&B isn?t just one thing, though. Cuz Brandy ain?t really in that category either if that?s the case :dead: her and Jazmine/faith Maxwell and those girls are not the same. Ew
You could argue Brandy was more pop/urban soul or whatever tf with the exception of TwoEleven. It can be argued that she?d never made a pure R&B album until 2012 with this line of thinking
Literally said the same shit :plzstop:
These girls don?t know shit
All they see is stan shit
Put the shit to the side and call a thing a thing
Wait though cuz
Ego, Hello, Why Don?t You Love Me, Disappear, Video Phone, Scared Of Lonely
we?re kinda R&B
Quote from: AYR on March 09, 2018, 02:39:55 PM
Wait though cuz
Ego, Hello, Why Don?t You Love Me, Disappear, Video Phone, Scared Of Lonely
we?re kinda R&B
'fas is hood as fuck when she wants to be.
bday >>>>
Quote from: Andrais. on March 09, 2018, 02:21:35 PM
But honestly back to the topic.
Why didn't they mention Drake's fake Caribbean mess or all these white boys with face tattoos and trash ass rap music talmbout nigga every 5 seconds in their lyrics?
Or how about all the black artists who abandoned R&B to start acting like rappers. Bitches! Hos! Emo! Weed!
I usually side with the girls when they bring up appropriation but they picked the least problematic example. Bruno is always vocal about his influences and stays perched at the black award shows. Alot of black artists are too conceited to even give props to their predecessors and only go to the white mess.
And they fussing over grammys and shit when they don't want your black ass there to begin with.
:udontlookok:
i agree with this all the way
He?s musically late to me overall (great performer tho) but i never really thought of culture vulture mess or whatever people are talking about.
GODmation is urban knock downe as well.
I love when she taps into that side of her. I think that's the real 'fas to be honest.
She just needs to clean it and soften it up a bit sometimes to make sure she doesn't lose that wider appeal
Quote from: 1RIG on March 09, 2018, 02:35:44 PM
Quote from: Andrais. on March 09, 2018, 12:09:38 PM
Quote from: M'Baku on March 09, 2018, 12:06:52 PM
she is genre bending..
yet her base is always R&B
what is so hard to understand lol
she just pulls all of this off better than beyonce :dead:
if rih is pop.. so is beyonce. Flat owt
It's never been R&B.
Rih has nevenr given a Brandy, Faith Evans, Maxwell, Fantasia, Jaz Sullivan, Brian McKnight ect etc etc type of mess. That's R&B. Rihanna is Urban & Pop. She doesn't have a single R&B album and her making an R&B record every blue moon doesn't change anything.
:dead:
R&B isn?t just one thing, though. Cuz Brandy ain?t really in that category either if that?s the case :dead: her and Jazmine/faith Maxwell and those girls are not the same. Ew
You could argue Brandy was more pop/urban soul or whatever tf with the exception of TwoEleven. It can be argued that she?d never made a pure R&B album until 2012 with this line of thinking
Bran is futuristic but outside of Human everything else has a lot of R&B/Soul
Quote from: AYR on March 09, 2018, 02:29:18 PM
Quote from: 1RIG on March 09, 2018, 02:26:17 PM
Quote from: Andrais. on March 09, 2018, 11:54:38 AM
She's not
I still laugh how she skyrocketed to the top of the R&B charts after Billboard make that stupid rule change.
that was only bullshit because nothing about ?Diamonds? is R&B or hip hop :dead:
definitely but I don?t think it was Diamonds :dead:
It was Birthday Cake I think
was it? I remember it being diamonds that knocked PID down to #16 or something crazy because of iTunes sales but u could be right
All I know is Rih aint no damn R&B artist.
Quote from: AYR on March 09, 2018, 02:39:55 PM
Wait though cuz
Ego, Hello, Why Don?t You Love Me, Disappear, Video Phone, Scared Of Lonely
we?re kinda R&B
Why don?t you love me if fucking iconic
And yea! I?ll give you that one for sure. And disappear
:stressed:
Quote from: AYR on March 09, 2018, 02:43:05 PM
Quote from: 1RIG on March 09, 2018, 02:35:44 PM
Quote from: Andrais. on March 09, 2018, 12:09:38 PM
Quote from: M'Baku on March 09, 2018, 12:06:52 PM
she is genre bending..
yet her base is always R&B
what is so hard to understand lol
she just pulls all of this off better than beyonce :dead:
if rih is pop.. so is beyonce. Flat owt
It's never been R&B.
Rih has nevenr given a Brandy, Faith Evans, Maxwell, Fantasia, Jaz Sullivan, Brian McKnight ect etc etc type of mess. That's R&B. Rihanna is Urban & Pop. She doesn't have a single R&B album and her making an R&B record every blue moon doesn't change anything.
:dead:
R&B isn?t just one thing, though. Cuz Brandy ain?t really in that category either if that?s the case :dead: her and Jazmine/faith Maxwell and those girls are not the same. Ew
You could argue Brandy was more pop/urban soul or whatever tf with the exception of TwoEleven. It can be argued that she?d never made a pure R&B album until 2012 with this line of thinking
Bran is futuristic but outside of Human everything else has a lot of R&B/Soul
not Brandy the pioneer of modern rnb's sound not being r&b. i am done with this discussion. :uhh: :uhh: :uhh:
Quote from: 1RIG on March 09, 2018, 02:43:06 PM
Quote from: AYR on March 09, 2018, 02:29:18 PM
Quote from: 1RIG on March 09, 2018, 02:26:17 PM
Quote from: Andrais. on March 09, 2018, 11:54:38 AM
She's not
I still laugh how she skyrocketed to the top of the R&B charts after Billboard make that stupid rule change.
that was only bullshit because nothing about ?Diamonds? is R&B or hip hop :dead:
definitely but I don?t think it was Diamonds :dead:
It was Birthday Cake I think
was it? I remember it being diamonds that knocked PID down to #16 or something crazy because of iTunes sales but u could be right
Diamonds wasn?t out until like a year after PID
Quote from: AYR on March 09, 2018, 02:43:05 PM
Quote from: 1RIG on March 09, 2018, 02:35:44 PM
Quote from: Andrais. on March 09, 2018, 12:09:38 PM
Quote from: M'Baku on March 09, 2018, 12:06:52 PM
she is genre bending..
yet her base is always R&B
what is so hard to understand lol
she just pulls all of this off better than beyonce :dead:
if rih is pop.. so is beyonce. Flat owt
It's never been R&B.
Rih has nevenr given a Brandy, Faith Evans, Maxwell, Fantasia, Jaz Sullivan, Brian McKnight ect etc etc type of mess. That's R&B. Rihanna is Urban & Pop. She doesn't have a single R&B album and her making an R&B record every blue moon doesn't change anything.
:dead:
R&B isn?t just one thing, though. Cuz Brandy ain?t really in that category either if that?s the case :dead: her and Jazmine/faith Maxwell and those girls are not the same. Ew
You could argue Brandy was more pop/urban soul or whatever tf with the exception of TwoEleven. It can be argued that she?d never made a pure R&B album until 2012 with this line of thinking
Bran is futuristic but outside of Human everything else has a lot of R&B/Soul
true
I like how Glock categorized it all tho
Haven't read the whole Bey vs Rih ...who's more greasy debate (if that's what it is)
But I'd say both of them have a mixture of mess. There are times where they get all popped owt and sweet. and there are times where they dig downe and get ratchet with some bonafide knock. :woohoo:
I'd say 'fas is more guttah with it sometimes. Just a bit. That could be argued down tho. But they do the same thing to me. A good variety of "here's some mess for you White people" and "OK let's get down to bidness real quick" chunes.
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Quote from: Andrais. on March 09, 2018, 12:09:38 PM
Quote from: M'Baku on March 09, 2018, 12:06:52 PM
she is genre bending..
yet her base is always R&B
what is so hard to understand lol
she just pulls all of this off better than beyonce :dead:
if rih is pop.. so is beyonce. Flat owt
It's never been R&B.
Rih has nevenr given a Brandy, Faith Evans, Maxwell, Fantasia, Jaz Sullivan, Brian McKnight ect etc etc type of mess. That's R&B. Rihanna is Urban & Pop. She doesn't have a single R&B album and her making an R&B record every blue moon doesn't change anything.
:dead:
R&B isn?t just one thing, though. Cuz Brandy ain?t really in that category either if that?s the case :dead: her and Jazmine/faith Maxwell and those girls are not the same. Ew
You could argue Brandy was more pop/urban soul or whatever tf with the exception of TwoEleven. It can be argued that she?d never made a pure R&B album until 2012 with this line of thinking
Bran is futuristic but outside of Human everything else has a lot of R&B/Soul
true
I like how Glock categorized it all tho
ha ha
Hey
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Quote from: 1RIG on March 09, 2018, 02:35:44 PM
Quote from: Andrais. on March 09, 2018, 12:09:38 PM
Quote from: M'Baku on March 09, 2018, 12:06:52 PM
she is genre bending..
yet her base is always R&B
what is so hard to understand lol
she just pulls all of this off better than beyonce :dead:
if rih is pop.. so is beyonce. Flat owt
It's never been R&B.
Rih has nevenr given a Brandy, Faith Evans, Maxwell, Fantasia, Jaz Sullivan, Brian McKnight ect etc etc type of mess. That's R&B. Rihanna is Urban & Pop. She doesn't have a single R&B album and her making an R&B record every blue moon doesn't change anything.
:dead:
R&B isn?t just one thing, though. Cuz Brandy ain?t really in that category either if that?s the case :dead: her and Jazmine/faith Maxwell and those girls are not the same. Ew
You could argue Brandy was more pop/urban soul or whatever tf with the exception of TwoEleven. It can be argued that she?d never made a pure R&B album until 2012 with this line of thinking
Bran is futuristic but outside of Human everything else has a lot of R&B/Soul
true
I like how Glock categorized it all tho
ha ha
Hey
That doesn't change the fact that you're wrong and the entire thread disgareed and provided examples as to why.
Damn Rih, Bey and Usher are the same type of R&B
Love that
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Quote from: Andrais. on March 09, 2018, 12:09:38 PM
Quote from: M'Baku on March 09, 2018, 12:06:52 PM
she is genre bending..
yet her base is always R&B
what is so hard to understand lol
she just pulls all of this off better than beyonce :dead:
if rih is pop.. so is beyonce. Flat owt
It's never been R&B.
Rih has nevenr given a Brandy, Faith Evans, Maxwell, Fantasia, Jaz Sullivan, Brian McKnight ect etc etc type of mess. That's R&B. Rihanna is Urban & Pop. She doesn't have a single R&B album and her making an R&B record every blue moon doesn't change anything.
:dead:
R&B isn?t just one thing, though. Cuz Brandy ain?t really in that category either if that?s the case :dead: her and Jazmine/faith Maxwell and those girls are not the same. Ew
You could argue Brandy was more pop/urban soul or whatever tf with the exception of TwoEleven. It can be argued that she?d never made a pure R&B album until 2012 with this line of thinking
Bran is futuristic but outside of Human everything else has a lot of R&B/Soul
true
I like how Glock categorized it all tho
except Rih is not R&B
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Quote from: Andrais. on March 09, 2018, 12:09:38 PM
Quote from: M'Baku on March 09, 2018, 12:06:52 PM
she is genre bending..
yet her base is always R&B
what is so hard to understand lol
she just pulls all of this off better than beyonce :dead:
if rih is pop.. so is beyonce. Flat owt
It's never been R&B.
Rih has nevenr given a Brandy, Faith Evans, Maxwell, Fantasia, Jaz Sullivan, Brian McKnight ect etc etc type of mess. That's R&B. Rihanna is Urban & Pop. She doesn't have a single R&B album and her making an R&B record every blue moon doesn't change anything.
:dead:
R&B isn?t just one thing, though. Cuz Brandy ain?t really in that category either if that?s the case :dead: her and Jazmine/faith Maxwell and those girls are not the same. Ew
You could argue Brandy was more pop/urban soul or whatever tf with the exception of TwoEleven. It can be argued that she?d never made a pure R&B album until 2012 with this line of thinking
Bran is futuristic but outside of Human everything else has a lot of R&B/Soul
true
I like how Glock categorized it all tho
except Rih is not R&B
R&B/Pop
:ohwow:
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the only thing I feel about Bruno is that it is unfair that he gets tossed into the black categories at all the award shows..
he is a pop singer who does R&B songs.. really unfair advantage but that's it.
He is very upfront with his appreciation for blacks and how they have inspired him!
Rihanna also gets placed in the R&B categories at award shows but no one complains about that...lol
n
rihanna is r&b tho
and she is also black..
her r&b tunes are serviced like R&B records as well..
Rihanna is not an R&B artist
Quote from: AYR on March 09, 2018, 02:39:55 PM
Wait though cuz
Ego, Hello, Why Don?t You Love Me, Disappear, Video Phone, Scared Of Lonely
we?re kinda R&B
Ughh bitch disappear. I haven't listened to that in forever!!
One of her best songs
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Quote from: Andrais. on March 09, 2018, 12:09:38 PM
Quote from: M'Baku on March 09, 2018, 12:06:52 PM
she is genre bending..
yet her base is always R&B
what is so hard to understand lol
she just pulls all of this off better than beyonce :dead:
if rih is pop.. so is beyonce. Flat owt
It's never been R&B.
Rih has nevenr given a Brandy, Faith Evans, Maxwell, Fantasia, Jaz Sullivan, Brian McKnight ect etc etc type of mess. That's R&B. Rihanna is Urban & Pop. She doesn't have a single R&B album and her making an R&B record every blue moon doesn't change anything.
:dead:
R&B isn?t just one thing, though. Cuz Brandy ain?t really in that category either if that?s the case :dead: her and Jazmine/faith Maxwell and those girls are not the same. Ew
You could argue Brandy was more pop/urban soul or whatever tf with the exception of TwoEleven. It can be argued that she?d never made a pure R&B album until 2012 with this line of thinking
Bran is futuristic but outside of Human everything else has a lot of R&B/Soul
true
I like how Glock categorized it all tho
except Rih is not R&B
Pop/Urban
:ohwow:
youre welcome bro
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Quote from: 1RIG on March 09, 2018, 02:35:44 PM
Quote from: Andrais. on March 09, 2018, 12:09:38 PM
Quote from: M'Baku on March 09, 2018, 12:06:52 PM
she is genre bending..
yet her base is always R&B
what is so hard to understand lol
she just pulls all of this off better than beyonce :dead:
if rih is pop.. so is beyonce. Flat owt
It's never been R&B.
Rih has nevenr given a Brandy, Faith Evans, Maxwell, Fantasia, Jaz Sullivan, Brian McKnight ect etc etc type of mess. That's R&B. Rihanna is Urban & Pop. She doesn't have a single R&B album and her making an R&B record every blue moon doesn't change anything.
:dead:
R&B isn?t just one thing, though. Cuz Brandy ain?t really in that category either if that?s the case :dead: her and Jazmine/faith Maxwell and those girls are not the same. Ew
You could argue Brandy was more pop/urban soul or whatever tf with the exception of TwoEleven. It can be argued that she?d never made a pure R&B album until 2012 with this line of thinking
Bran is futuristic but outside of Human everything else has a lot of R&B/Soul
true
I like how Glock categorized it all tho
except Rih is not R&B
R&B/Pop
:ohwow:
yeah :raycharles2urmess:
Quote from: M'Baku on March 09, 2018, 03:01:59 PM
Quote from: 1RIG on March 09, 2018, 02:49:50 PM
R&B/Pop
:ohwow:
yeah :raycharles2urmess:
Quote from: M'Baku on March 09, 2018, 11:36:38 AM
the only thing I feel about Bruno is that it is unfair that he gets tossed into the black categories at all the award shows..
he is a pop singer who does R&B songs.. really unfair advantage but that's it.
He is very upfront with his appreciation for blacks and how they have inspired him!
:plzstop:
I agree with her. You cannot tell me that Bruno album is better than any R&B album that was nominated for AOTY in the past.
n
R&B is placed first in his post
r u blind? or?
She's the same as Bruno Mars except her secondary genre is Urban instead of Funk/Soul.
A Pop artist who does "insert other genre" here.
Meaning she's not an R&B artist
d
Quote from: TEXASbama on March 09, 2018, 02:50:49 PM
Quote from: AYR on March 09, 2018, 02:39:55 PM
Wait though cuz
Ego, Hello, Why Don?t You Love Me, Disappear, Video Phone, Scared Of Lonely
we?re kinda R&B
Ughh bitch disappear. I haven't listened to that in forever!!
One of her best songs
the very end of it is sooooo pretty
Quote from: Andrais. on March 09, 2018, 03:23:05 PM
She's the same as Bruno Mars except her secondary genre is Urban instead of Funk/Soul.
A Pop artist who does "insert other genre" here.
Meaning she's not an R&B artist
d
this makes sense or whatever
:overit:
n
Fuck you babe. Ugh Rih?s new album is giving India Arie, i hear.
this boy is pissed :kii:
She def gives me more R&B than Bruno ever has until these last few months though
?Get it over with? >>>
I have never
Quote from: 1RIG on March 09, 2018, 03:27:09 PM
Quote from: Andrais. on March 09, 2018, 03:23:05 PM
She's the same as Bruno Mars except her secondary genre is Urban instead of Funk/Soul.
A Pop artist who does "insert other genre" here.
Meaning she's not an R&B artist
d
this makes sense or whatever
:overit:
n
Fuck you babe. Ugh Rih?s new album is giving India Arie, i hear.
Of course it makes no sense. You're not an R&B artist when your biggest hits are all europop/EDM/Dance
And Rih is trash btw.
:ATLcameo:
Rih hops from one musical trend to the next, so she's never really one sound.
They toss her and Bey in those urban categories because they're black and want them at their awards shows.
Damn I wasn't trying to read her but yh Rih does chase trends from other countries and tries to make it pop in the US.
these carrots r on point
Quote from: M'Baku on March 09, 2018, 12:14:00 PM
LIKE..
Maxwell
Erykah Badu
Jill Scott
they make the same type of R&B
Brandy
Jhene
Frank Ocean
they all make experimental R&B
Monica
Keyshia
Mary
Faith Evans
R Kelly
same type of R&B
Rihanna
Beyonce
Usher
they make the same type of R&B!
DSFGDSFAFBCDSADFCVSDVFBCDSGFNB
!!!
You're in here preaching Trin
Quote from: Kaeli. on March 09, 2018, 12:27:49 PM
Quote from: Vibrant on March 09, 2018, 12:26:44 PM
Said the fucking Dreezy stan
girl if you were in front of me right now...
fuck janet too bitch
Lil bitch I will kill you
Janet aint shit
Quote from: Andrais. on March 09, 2018, 02:46:59 PM
Quote from: M'Baku on March 09, 2018, 02:46:04 PM
Quote from: 1RIG on March 09, 2018, 02:45:44 PM
Quote from: AYR on March 09, 2018, 02:43:05 PM
Quote from: 1RIG on March 09, 2018, 02:35:44 PM
Quote from: Andrais. on March 09, 2018, 12:09:38 PM
Quote from: M'Baku on March 09, 2018, 12:06:52 PM
she is genre bending..
yet her base is always R&B
what is so hard to understand lol
she just pulls all of this off better than beyonce :dead:
if rih is pop.. so is beyonce. Flat owt
It's never been R&B.
Rih has nevenr given a Brandy, Faith Evans, Maxwell, Fantasia, Jaz Sullivan, Brian McKnight ect etc etc type of mess. That's R&B. Rihanna is Urban & Pop. She doesn't have a single R&B album and her making an R&B record every blue moon doesn't change anything.
:dead:
R&B isn?t just one thing, though. Cuz Brandy ain?t really in that category either if that?s the case :dead: her and Jazmine/faith Maxwell and those girls are not the same. Ew
You could argue Brandy was more pop/urban soul or whatever tf with the exception of TwoEleven. It can be argued that she?d never made a pure R&B album until 2012 with this line of thinking
Bran is futuristic but outside of Human everything else has a lot of R&B/Soul
true
I like how Glock categorized it all tho
ha ha
Hey
That doesn't change the fact that you're wrong and the entire thread disgareed and provided examples as to why.
lol
Yea
Quote from: Andrais. on March 09, 2018, 04:05:49 PM
Janet aint shit
but a aid titty bitch :tittehbeendry:
Quote from: Mays. on March 09, 2018, 04:00:46 PM
Quote from: M'Baku on March 09, 2018, 12:14:00 PM
LIKE..
Maxwell
Erykah Badu
Jill Scott
they make the same type of R&B
Brandy
Jhene
Frank Ocean
they all make experimental R&B
Monica
Keyshia
Mary
Faith Evans
R Kelly
same type of R&B
Rihanna
Beyonce
Usher
they make the same type of R&B!
DSFGDSFAFBCDSADFCVSDVFBCDSGFNB
!!!
You're in here preaching Trin
Whew!!!
These damn girls
Quote from: Happily Unhappy on March 09, 2018, 01:36:50 PM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on March 09, 2018, 01:13:14 PM
This whole cultural appropriation argument is pointless. A lot of these new black artists clearly don't take their time to study or pay respects to our legends, so why is it okay for them to exploit the culture? Because they're black?
And the vitriol against Bruno Mars really boils down to a lot of people being mad that he came along snatched the career everyone thought Chris Brown was gonna have before he went tasmanian devil on Rih.
!!!!!!!!! All of this!!!!! And all Chris is known for now is having violent outbursts and ranting on Twitter or Instagram about something. Plus his music is horrible now. No growth at all. At least Bruno grew as an artist and made sure that each album and era was different from the last. Plus, he writes and produces his own shit. So it?s simple,
Chris writes and produces too
Quote from: Mays. on March 09, 2018, 04:17:17 PM
Quote from: Happily Unhappy on March 09, 2018, 01:36:50 PM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on March 09, 2018, 01:13:14 PM
This whole cultural appropriation argument is pointless. A lot of these new black artists clearly don't take their time to study or pay respects to our legends, so why is it okay for them to exploit the culture? Because they're black?
And the vitriol against Bruno Mars really boils down to a lot of people being mad that he came along snatched the career everyone thought Chris Brown was gonna have before he went tasmanian devil on Rih.
!!!!!!!!! All of this!!!!! And all Chris is known for now is having violent outbursts and ranting on Twitter or Instagram about something. Plus his music is horrible now. No growth at all. At least Bruno grew as an artist and made sure that each album and era was different from the last. Plus, he writes and produces his own shit. So it?s simple,
Chris writes and produces too
still got my eye on u.. :udontlookok:
watch ur step bvy. floor's slippery around here
Quote from: Mays. on March 09, 2018, 04:00:46 PM
Quote from: M'Baku on March 09, 2018, 12:14:00 PM
LIKE..
Maxwell
Erykah Badu
Jill Scott
they make the same type of R&B
Brandy
Jhene
Frank Ocean
they all make experimental R&B
Monica
Keyshia
Mary
Faith Evans
R Kelly
same type of R&B
Rihanna
Beyonce
Usher
they make the same type of R&B!
DSFGDSFAFBCDSADFCVSDVFBCDSGFNB
!!!
You're in here preaching Trin
n
kang wyd
baybeee.....
Quote from: hai class. on March 09, 2018, 04:18:24 PM
Quote from: Mays. on March 09, 2018, 04:17:17 PM
Quote from: Happily Unhappy on March 09, 2018, 01:36:50 PM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on March 09, 2018, 01:13:14 PM
This whole cultural appropriation argument is pointless. A lot of these new black artists clearly don't take their time to study or pay respects to our legends, so why is it okay for them to exploit the culture? Because they're black?
And the vitriol against Bruno Mars really boils down to a lot of people being mad that he came along snatched the career everyone thought Chris Brown was gonna have before he went tasmanian devil on Rih.
!!!!!!!!! All of this!!!!! And all Chris is known for now is having violent outbursts and ranting on Twitter or Instagram about something. Plus his music is horrible now. No growth at all. At least Bruno grew as an artist and made sure that each album and era was different from the last. Plus, he writes and produces his own shit. So it?s simple,
Chris writes and produces too
still got my eye on u.. :udontlookok:
watch ur step bvy. floor's slippery around here
sbbbbbbbbbbb
(http://i.imgur.com/8uwAlWu.jpg?1)
Quote from: Andrais. on March 09, 2018, 04:05:49 PM
Janet aint shit
Tinashe just got dropped by her label
He is kinda corny but it's in the best possible way.
"Thats What I Like" had me hooked . such a sweet song
yeah he's clearly inspired/influenced by older acts but there's some sort of freshness to it.
he breathes new life into the old style he bites off of.
Quote from: Mays. on March 09, 2018, 04:23:23 PM
Quote from: hai class. on March 09, 2018, 04:18:24 PM
Quote from: Mays. on March 09, 2018, 04:17:17 PM
Quote from: Happily Unhappy on March 09, 2018, 01:36:50 PM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on March 09, 2018, 01:13:14 PM
This whole cultural appropriation argument is pointless. A lot of these new black artists clearly don't take their time to study or pay respects to our legends, so why is it okay for them to exploit the culture? Because they're black?
And the vitriol against Bruno Mars really boils down to a lot of people being mad that he came along snatched the career everyone thought Chris Brown was gonna have before he went tasmanian devil on Rih.
!!!!!!!!! All of this!!!!! And all Chris is known for now is having violent outbursts and ranting on Twitter or Instagram about something. Plus his music is horrible now. No growth at all. At least Bruno grew as an artist and made sure that each album and era was different from the last. Plus, he writes and produces his own shit. So it?s simple,
Chris writes and produces too
still got my eye on u.. :udontlookok:
watch ur step bvy. floor's slippery around here
sbbbbbbbbbbb
(http://i.imgur.com/8uwAlWu.jpg?1)
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k;mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
yumz i will end u this evening
ddddd
(http://uploadir.com/u/rncj13dh)
A lot of what homegirl said is very true.
Quote from: hai class. on March 09, 2018, 04:28:54 PM
k;mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
yumz i will end u this evening
Not before I kill u
Quote from: Andrais. on March 09, 2018, 04:32:44 PM
Quote from: hai class. on March 09, 2018, 04:28:54 PM
k;mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
yumz i will end u this evening
Not before I kill u
You were 100% wrong in this thread lolz
I'll read it all later
Black people are annoying.
Queen spoke w/ Complex about her comments:
QuoteComplex spoke with Seren Sensei to get her thoughts on how this conversation blew up, why she got reported on social media, and whether there's anything Bruno can do to not be seen as a cultural appropriator.
Full Interview: http://www.complex.com/music/2018/03/we-talked-to-woman-who-reignited-bruno-mars-cultural-appropriation-debate
This whole "woke" culture is a front
that gives the gorls an excuse to complain about any and everything
and I wish they would just shut the fuck up
hope this ruins him
Mel wat kinda music doesn?t years make
And is he mixed?
Quote from: hai class. on March 09, 2018, 04:28:54 PM
k;mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
yumz i will end u this evening
get ha
Change that sig or I?m perching bey with the frown lines in my mess
Quote from: M'Baku on March 09, 2018, 06:18:03 PM
Mel wat kinda music doesn?t years make
And is he mixed?
I think he's white, idk..
their music is pop, alternative and electronic influenced
Quote from: Mel on March 09, 2018, 06:24:38 PM
Quote from: M'Baku on March 09, 2018, 06:18:03 PM
Mel wat kinda music doesn?t years make
And is he mixed?
I think he's white, idk..
their music is pop, alternative and electronic influenced
is it GEWD?
Quote from: M'Baku on March 09, 2018, 06:25:00 PM
Quote from: Mel on March 09, 2018, 06:24:38 PM
Quote from: M'Baku on March 09, 2018, 06:18:03 PM
Mel wat kinda music doesn?t years make
And is he mixed?
I think he's white, idk..
their music is pop, alternative and electronic influenced
is it GEWD?
Yes
Quote from: M'Baku on March 09, 2018, 06:25:00 PM
Quote from: Mel on March 09, 2018, 06:24:38 PM
Quote from: M'Baku on March 09, 2018, 06:18:03 PM
Mel wat kinda music doesn?t years make
And is he mixed?
I think he's white, idk..
their music is pop, alternative and electronic influenced
is it GEWD?
It's AMAZE
you should check them out
Just downloaded Sanctity
And communion alber
Olly>>>>
Quote from: Andrais. on March 09, 2018, 02:21:35 PM
But honestly back to the topic.
Why didn't they mention Drake's fake Caribbean mess or all these white boys with face tattoos and trash ass rap music talmbout nigga every 5 seconds in their lyrics?
:udontlookok:
I honestly though this would make it's way to the conversation.
Lil' Pump, that 6ix9ine demon and others like them are more "problematic" than Bruno will ever be.
Like just the other day I heard that Lil' Pump was firing a gun up in his house, but when the cops get there he blamed it on 3 black men
:uhh:
kfknkdjff
I didn't watch the video so I'm not talking about her, but the trendy people jumping on the woke bandwagon and really destroying it and I hate seeing this happen before my eyes.
Is Bruno Mars really the first person everyone should worry about?!
I cant even finish that video, she is not even breathing. There are many things you can complain about but i think she is wasting her energy on this one. There are actually people who grew up listening to hiphop, soul and R&B and genuinely love it..if it feels natural for someone to express yourself in this genre go ahead. I think people who use n-words even if they are not black or mock the culture are the real problem. Chris Brown ruined his own career by attacking Rihanna and all the crazy mess on twitter afterwards. I?ve never heard anything bad about Bruno, he even wrote his own songs..his music is a bit corny every now and then that?s why I don?t listen, but do your thing Bruno
The only bad thing I know is that Bruno is a coke head
Quote from: M'Baku on March 09, 2018, 06:24:33 PM
Change that sig or I?m perching bey with the frown lines in my mess
Try it
I will say though looking at where hip hop, R&B, and black entertainment in general is heading.
The children are waking up and they're getting restless. Just gotta let the trendy girls be the pawns, while the Kings & Queens work in silence.
:scrumptious: :scrumptious:
Quote from: Mistress Marie Laveau on March 09, 2018, 07:12:49 PM
I will say though looking at where hip hop, R&B, and black entertainment in general is heading.
The children are waking up and they're getting restless. Just gotta let the trendy girls be the pawns, while the Kings & Queens work in silence.
:scrumptious: :scrumptious:
hey kang
One thing I've noticed with a lot of the discussions around cultural appropriation is the underlying craving of white validation. This doesn't really have shit to do with Bruno or any other alleged "culture vulture", it has more to do with the fake woke types who desire the approval and praise from the same historically white establishments they claim they don't care about. It's easy to mask it with hashtags and online movements, but removing the need for validation from these outdated ass award show committees is far more easier said than done for them. I'll never understand how you can claim to be unapologetically blackity black in one breath and then turn around and throw tantrums over non black audiences not throwing awards and money at your favorite artist's feet, but I guess we all have our contradictions.
Quote from: hai class. on March 09, 2018, 07:22:19 PM
Quote from: Mistress Marie Laveau on March 09, 2018, 07:12:49 PM
I will say though looking at where hip hop, R&B, and black entertainment in general is heading.
The children are waking up and they're getting restless. Just gotta let the trendy girls be the pawns, while the Kings & Queens work in silence.
:scrumptious: :scrumptious:
hey kang
Hey babes!
Quote from: ANIMMAI on March 09, 2018, 07:30:50 PM
One thing I've noticed with a lot of the discussions around cultural appropriation is the underlying craving of white validation. This doesn't really have shit to do with Bruno or any other alleged "culture vulture", it has more to do with the fake woke types who desire the approval and praise from the same historically white establishments they claim they don't care about. It's easy to mask it with hashtags and online movements, but removing the need for validation from these outdated ass award show committees is far more easier said than done for them. I'll never understand how you can claim to be unapologetically blackity black in one breath and then turn around and throw tantrums over non black audiences not throwing awards and money at your favorite artist's feet, but I guess we all have our contradictions.
Right.
It's
one thing that annoys me about Mo'nique's entire campaign. It's all based off some expectations she had since she got the White approval trophy in hand. One that she received after playing a role that most people of color must play before they get it. Guess she didn't get the memo that she still has to play the politics mess correctly regardless of whether they approve or not - including the fact that it's common courtesy to thank the director during your speech once you win.
Angela Bassett has yet to get an Oscar in hand but I'm sure the day she decides to say fuck it play a drug addict it'll come flying into her lap. Then she can run around telling everyone how decorated she is, too.
Bitch please.
Now that I've watched sensei's video, I have to say
If a person grew up listening to hip-hop music or R&b, there ain't nothing wrong with them creating that type of music if they get the opportunity to do that. culture appropriation is usually when a white person steals a piece of culture from some point and bills it at their own. This ain't that
Quote from: OwnIt on March 09, 2018, 07:44:33 PM
Now that I've watched sensei's video, I have to say
If a person grew up listening to hip-hop music or R&b, there ain't nothing wrong with them creating that type of music if they get the opportunity to do that. culture appropriation is usually when a white person steals a piece of culture from some point and bills it at their own. This ain't that
First post of yours that?s ever made sense.
Quote from: OwnIt on March 09, 2018, 07:44:33 PM
Now that I've watched sensei's video, I have to say
If a person grew up listening to hip-hop music or R&b, there ain't nothing wrong with them creating that type of music if they get the opportunity to do that. culture appropriation is usually when a white person steals a piece of culture from some point and bills it at their own. This ain't that
Right.
It's like a group of Native Americans deciding that even though a Black Native grew up on right on the Indian reservation, took part in all the traditions - all the ceremonies, pow wows, etc., none of that matters because the person doesn't "look" Native American at all.
Like, how dare you. You have no right to take their upbringing away from them based on how they look. It's a really fucked up thing to do. Usually I enjoy these teas but I don't even want to watch this clip.
Quote from: BowDown on March 09, 2018, 07:46:21 PM
Quote from: OwnIt on March 09, 2018, 07:44:33 PM
Now that I've watched sensei's video, I have to say
If a person grew up listening to hip-hop music or R&b, there ain't nothing wrong with them creating that type of music if they get the opportunity to do that. culture appropriation is usually when a white person steals a piece of culture from some point and bills it at their own. This ain't that
First post of yours that?s ever made sense.
tbh!
Cuz Bruno doesn?t appropriate imo
It?s not an act imo
Now Katy perry and Selana .. and Justin B
:udontlookok:
Quote from: ANIMMAI on March 09, 2018, 07:30:50 PM
One thing I've noticed with a lot of the discussions around cultural appropriation is the underlying craving of white validation. This doesn't really have shit to do with Bruno or any other alleged "culture vulture", it has more to do with the fake woke types who desire the approval and praise from the same historically white establishments they claim they don't care about. It's easy to mask it with hashtags and online movements, but removing the need for validation from these outdated ass award show committees is far more easier said than done for them. I'll never understand how you can claim to be unapologetically blackity black in one breath and then turn around and throw tantrums over non black audiences not throwing awards and money at your favorite artist's feet, but I guess we all have our contradictions.
!!!
Grammys!
They don't want you there anyway :dead:
Bruno is still trash and corny though
and 'fas is a ho :cheerup:
https://www.instagram.com/p/Ba-CZVUHF1X/?taken-by=inojofficial
o[jniph8ug7fy68tludr57ys4e6a3uw52
That looks like a long thin dick
Bitch is that a dick
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this fcking dagger
Did y'all know even though bruno got thick ass man thighs, he kinda has no ass :ummwhat:
:ohwow:
(http://www.rap-up.com/app/uploads/2010/07/bruno-mars-y100.jpg)
reminds me a lil of squid in that pic . :wub: :blush:
Quote from: Paradiso. on March 09, 2018, 08:20:14 PM
Elsalvador was lashed in here!
[youtube autoplay=1]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVSz-YsBDS4[/youtube]
?
Quote from: hai class. on March 09, 2018, 07:56:29 PM
and 'fas is a ho :cheerup:
let me put this drink down and SQUARE up
:cmerefag:
*down this drink
p[ojnhib'gouv;fyicdtu7x
Shutup ho
no :guys:
These "hotep" niggas need to chill the hell out. It ain't even all that damn serious.
bgggggggggggfrhjm
not donovan n tht one nigger bout to fight
Quote from: bynm36 on March 09, 2018, 08:46:08 PM
These "hotep" niggas need to chill the hell out. It ain't even all that damn serious.
It's ok they'll get over it. They're just angry and this is their only way to let that out. They don't know any better.
And since we bucking the fucking tables.
Drai', you think cause you been MIA you can't get this work and this lashing.
But brother...I'm here to let you know I'ma fuck you up.
(https://ionemadamenoire.files.wordpress.com/2016/06/charm-school1.jpg)
bhjnfdmnbbfdx
:welllol:
hell u smirkin' for mops head
wen he done wit drais
im gettin' on U
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ton? :usureuok:
Quote from: Mistress Marie Laveau on March 09, 2018, 09:04:41 PM
And since we bucking the fucking tables.
Drai', you think cause you been MIA you can't get this work and this lashing.
But brother...I'm here to let you know I'ma fuck you up.
(https://ionemadamenoire.files.wordpress.com/2016/06/charm-school1.jpg)
https://www.instagram.com/p/BYrl8Z_F7bh
Omg khias pit is so cute
Quote from: hai class. on March 09, 2018, 09:27:56 PM
ton? :usureuok:
King that wasn't me
:omgwatshappening:
Ton & me giving a bit of Futch and Ci bod party whiles Drais, Afro & Pons act like wild niggers.
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(https://cdn1.aznude.com/queenlatifah/bessie/Latifah-Bessie_773051.jpg)
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(https://uploadir.com/u/1hdeahf9)
:plzstop:
kasnkjfnff
mmm yes, Queen latifah's titties tell a story. Those wisdom titties. I can see the creases and the wrinkles of time in those titties. Yes Yes. Those African titties. The titties the ancestors used to bounce and jiggle about with in Africa. Yes, my African Queen of Nubia. release those titties and let them falls to the EARTH and live in harmony with the dirt like our ancestors.
(http://picresize.com/images/rsz_1rsz_o-mature-woman-smiling-facebook.jpg)
Mm
bhfvnnfv
writer! good wit words!
tht lil fanfic got u feelin' urself huh sinn'
Quote from: Eternal Bell on March 09, 2018, 10:09:50 PM
bhfvnnfv
writer! good wit words!
tht lil fanfic got u feelin' urself huh sinn'
I know why the caged bird sings honey, do you?
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from 21:30 on >>>>>
Not the best part coming in at the end. But a-fucking-men.
Why do you care about the fucking Grammys?
I've been saying this for so long. This is a WHITE fucking country. Do you really think the fucking Grammys are turning into the "EBT" Awards anytime soon? Or that the Oscars are gonna begin throwing out trophies like rice into the hood because they feel bad? :plzstop:
No, you'll continue to whine and as long as this country is WHITE, you'll keep whining about the lack of recognition. Or they'll just eventually flat owt create a "niggers only" category to get it done with once and for all, instead of decorating it with titles like Urban Contemporary. :dead:
The moment we begin giving more credence to our own shit - our own award shows, organizations, etc. - the better we'll be. These White people ain't fucking thinking about you unless you're ready to play a crackhead in a movie or some abusive mother swinging frying pans at her child's head. :dead:
Get that through your GOT damns skull.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUxtzhplZtI
Kang was fed the fuck AHP with hearing about it nsfnfnsnfsfns
Oh Massah!!! We want Grammy too! How else shall we know that thee approves of us?
How else shall we know we are "crossover"? Hear our cry! :'( :'(
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Black the fuck OWT then :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop: :plzstop:
I'm really glad it all ended on that note.
Quote from: Nine on March 09, 2018, 06:32:01 PM
Quote from: Andrais. on March 09, 2018, 02:21:35 PM
But honestly back to the topic.
Why didn't they mention Drake's fake Caribbean mess or all these white boys with face tattoos and trash ass rap music talmbout nigga every 5 seconds in their lyrics?
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I honestly though this would make it's way to the conversation.
Lil' Pump, that 6ix9ine demon and others like them are more "problematic" than Bruno will ever be.
Like just the other day I heard that Lil' Pump was firing a gun up in his house, but when the cops get there he blamed it on 3 black men
:uhh:
isnt that the child molester? yea, toss em and the other white weirdos
Yeah kang spoke at the end.
i was just jammin and realized
that "oh-ho" adlib at 3:11
straight from Slim's handbook! (112)
i love it cuz vocally Sim has always slayed to me. his adlibs and all.
its little things like that that let u see that this soooo real with Bruno.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsoLEjrDogU