I just had a few ppl try to argue with me claiming Rocafella had the bigger prime :uhh:
Bad boy started off better but today rocafella produced a better calibur of artists. Kanye, rihanna, j cole. Who diddy got? Cassie and french montana? :dead:
Bad Boy >>>>>>
Jay was the only one really slaying on Roc.
Bad boy lmao
I mean, Roc had Queen Amil so gonna go with them. lol!
(https://i.imgur.com/aZu57YO.gif)
Quote from: Genesis on April 03, 2018, 09:24:20 PM
Bad boy started off better but today rocafella produced a better calibur of artists. Kanye, rihanna, j cole. Who diddy got? Cassie and french montana? :dead:
I think they're just managed not on the label
ROC and its not even close tbh
Jay and Kanye ALONE >> anything on Bad Boy roster :dead:
What star was made outside of Jay and Ye?
N
Bad Boy pretty much defined an era of music. It was closest thing to a modern day Motown.
Bad Boy?s reign continued into the early 2000?s. Danity Kane had 2 number 1 albums
Please
An entity of artists that made a mark >>> 2 artist :dead:
Quote from: brocka4life on April 03, 2018, 09:27:22 PM
Bad Boy pretty much defined an era of music. It was closest thing to a modern day Motown.
Roc never even broke a singer :dead:
Or a group :tears:
Bad Boy still had the longest running and BIGGER prime. The Roc dissolved mid 2000?s
The one that produced Bible5
None of the roc girls have HITS outside of Jigga and Kanye :dead:
death
Define bigger prime ?
because ROC def moved more units. Like specifically.
n
Quote from: Kaeli. on April 03, 2018, 09:29:11 PM
The one that produced Bible5
Just answer the fucking question. No one knows which label your flops belong to.
Quote from: M'Baku on April 03, 2018, 09:29:25 PM
None of the roc girls have HITS outside of Jigga and Kanye :dead:
death
Each one of their solo products went BRICK
A fucking waste
:plzstop:
Quote from: HUGO on April 03, 2018, 09:31:02 PM
Quote from: M'Baku on April 03, 2018, 09:29:25 PM
None of the roc girls have HITS outside of Jigga and Kanye :dead:
death
Each one of their solo products went BRICK
A fucking waste
:plzstop:
im crying
Do y?all compare the white labels like this? :ack:
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a3/Kanyewest_collegedropout.jpg)
kinda bigger than any album released under Bad 'oy :justabit:
Quote from: Baph al Mana. on April 03, 2018, 09:32:07 PM
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a3/Kanyewest_collegedropout.jpg)
kinda bigger than any album released under Bad 'oy :justabit:
The question was bigger prime tho. In Bad Boy?s prime, all the artists were in heavy rotation at radio.
Quote from: Baph al Mana. on April 03, 2018, 09:32:07 PM
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a3/Kanyewest_collegedropout.jpg)
kinda bigger than any album released under Bad 'oy :justabit:
Even Life After Death?
:omgwatshappening:
Most of the bad boy girls are staples in music
n
Biggie
Puff
Faith
Mary by association
Faith
112
Craig Mack
DK
Rick Ross
The Lox
jadakiss
Kim by association
Mase
:dead:
Plea
Bad Boy has biggie
Who has a diamond mess and huge hits
So ima go with them
Quote from: brocka4life on April 03, 2018, 09:32:00 PM
Do y?all compare the white labels like this? :ack:
can the girls just discuss a bit!?
shit
Quote from: M'Baku on April 03, 2018, 09:33:52 PM
Most of the bad boy girls are staples in music
Mary by association
is this some group because...
Quote from: NATHAN. on April 03, 2018, 09:39:57 PM
Wait I take back what I said.
The First Ladies of Rocafella >
Scam Boy could never.
LMAO!
(https://i.pinimg.com/236x/3d/cf/b3/3dcfb30471fc35cbc8718199722c3992--aaliyah-illuminati-illuminati-conspiracy.jpg)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BA_u0uyCAAEjpHy.jpg)
(http://msdramatv.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/Screen-Shot-2016-12-20-at-11.07.34-AM.png)
And these classics! Ack :gorlonfire:
I mean... LMAO :letsmessfag:
n
Yeah I see who?s voting for Rocafella :dead:
And Mary and Kim are def bad boy affiliated
Bey isn?t
Li wasn?t
Nor Rih (before u girls get bright ideas)
(http://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Roc+Nation+Pre+Grammy+Brunch+NO_AUghMqx0l.jpg)
:supluv: almost forgot Rih
Quote from: M'Baku on April 03, 2018, 09:34:33 PM
Quote from: brocka4life on April 03, 2018, 09:32:00 PM
Do y?all compare the white labels like this? :ack:
can the girls just discuss a bit!?
shit
Yeah, but I want a Jive vs Capitol mess or something.
Can a question be asked?!
shit
n
Brandy. Get the fuck owt
Damn
(https://media1.tenor.com/images/e3b615a1ba126799756aeb95143024ee/tenor.gif?itemid=5962842)
Bad Boy easily.
We?re counting associates now? :dead:
Quote from: StarKitty on April 03, 2018, 09:24:25 PM
Bad Boy >>>>>>
Jay was the only one really slaying on Roc.
Right lol
Quote from: Nine on April 03, 2018, 09:33:52 PM
Quote from: Baph al Mana. on April 03, 2018, 09:32:07 PM
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a3/Kanyewest_collegedropout.jpg)
kinda bigger than any album released under Bad 'oy :justabit:
Even Life After Death?
:omgwatshappening:
Never.
Quote from: Kaeli. on April 03, 2018, 09:52:11 PM
We?re counting associates now? :dead:
n
Kim and Mary are a part of the bad boy legacy and helped build this company up :plzstop:
They will be listed in any history lesson about bad boy hun
These are the only associations that count
Lih, Rih nor bey are associated with the actual label :dead:
Mary J Blige Labels over the years: MCA, Geffen, Uptown, Matriarch
whats the LOOPHOLE on this "association" thing
(https://i.imgur.com/YMiXQIW.gif)
Kim was def Bad Boy. Come on now.
I could def see counting Kim, but Mary is a stretch. Puff first worked with her at Uptown.
Not including Kim with Bad Boy is like trying to not include Li with the Tim/Missy clique.
I don't think J. Cole and Rihanna play a part in "Rocafella's prime" either. Prime relates to a time period. They were too late.
Death Row & Aftermath>>>>ROC, imho as well.
Bad Boy really defined an era and was a like a hip hop version of Motown.
Rocafella was basically Jay and his cronies.
Quote from: ANIMMAI on April 03, 2018, 10:03:01 PM
Bad Boy really defined an era and was a like a hip hop version of Motown.
I couldn?t have said it better myself.
Quote from: L0NZ. on April 03, 2018, 09:58:23 PM
Not including Kim with Bad Boy is like trying to not include Li with the Tim/Missy clique.
Kik makes more sense hun. Li tim and miss is a stretch
Quote from: ANIMMAI on April 03, 2018, 10:03:01 PM
Bad Boy really defined an era and was a like a hip hop version of Motown.
(https://i.imgur.com/YMiXQIW.gif)
Quote from: HUGO on April 03, 2018, 10:06:01 PM
Quote from: L0NZ. on April 03, 2018, 09:58:23 PM
Not including Kim with Bad Boy is like trying to not include Li with the Tim/Missy clique.
Kik makes more sense hun. Li tim and miss is a stretch
it's really not :dead: they're majorly responsible for the quintessential Aaliyah sound
Bad Boy even made the whole remix thing a fucking thing
Quote from: ANIMMAI on April 03, 2018, 10:08:33 PM
Quote from: HUGO on April 03, 2018, 10:06:01 PM
Quote from: L0NZ. on April 03, 2018, 09:58:23 PM
Not including Kim with Bad Boy is like trying to not include Li with the Tim/Missy clique.
Kik makes more sense hun. Li tim and miss is a stretch
it's really not :dead: they're majorly responsible for the quintessential Aaliyah sound
To throw them with Rocafella? Yes
This is dumb
Two different eras and obviously bad boy had more artist
But Roc has bigger artist
I dunno how you compare that
Quote from: HUGO on April 03, 2018, 10:06:01 PM
Quote from: L0NZ. on April 03, 2018, 09:58:23 PM
Not including Kim with Bad Boy is like trying to not include Li with the Tim/Missy clique.
Kik makes more sense hun. Li tim and miss is a stretch
lol chile
N
Li Missy and Timbo are def an entity
Y?all really don?t feel like Mary is bad boy associated
Weird :dead:
n
I misunderstood. I thought they were trying to link Li Tim and Missy with the Roc
Quote from: LORD GRAND SUPREME PRIME CELESTIAL MARSHALL on April 03, 2018, 10:13:05 PM
This is dumb
Two different eras and obviously bad boy had more artist
But Roc has bigger artist
I dunno how you compare that
:omf: tbh
n
Biggie is a bigger artist than both jay and Kanye
v
Almost every album Bad Boy released from 1994 to 2001 sold platinum or better. I think Total?s album was the only album that wasn?t certified platinum during that time.
Total's first album went platinum.
what about memphis bleek?
Quote from: M'Baku on April 03, 2018, 11:12:28 PM
n
Biggie is a bigger artist than both jay and Kanye
:dead:
Quote from: Lazarus on April 03, 2018, 11:18:29 PM
Total's first album went platinum.
The second one is the one that didn?t go platinum. When I said Total, I didn?t mean the album title, I was speaking of the group. But I could see how that could be confused. I just edited it to clear up the confusion.
Quote from: M'Baku on April 03, 2018, 11:12:28 PM
n
Biggie is a bigger artist than both jay and Kanye
he's not going to be bigger than Jay Z once he dies
Trust :kii:
Dying gives the girls an extra BOOST mess
Jay is solidifying himself as the biggest rapper in history and not because of his actual rap career
But this isn't something we'll see until he's dead
n
stupid!
But let me join in
Welcome ?preme
Anyone with sense would say Bad Boy>>>>
Classic. Redefined a whole genre. TF.
Quote from: M'Baku on April 03, 2018, 09:33:52 PM
Most of the bad boy girls are staples in music
n
Biggie
Puff
Faith
Mary by association
Faith
112
Craig Mack
DK
Rick Ross
The Lox
jadakiss
Kim by association
Mase
:dead:
Plea
:dead:
I mean who was successful besides Jay Z and Kanye?
Amil?
Freeway?
Memphis Bleek?
Beanie Sigel?
Teairra Mari?
Young Gunz?
Cam?
Diplomats?
:kii:
Bad Boy>>>>>>>
They really defined the ?cool? and ?it? factor of the 90s... from music, fashion, remixes, the sound of hip hop and r&b...
Quote from: LORD GRAND SUPREME PRIME CELESTIAL MARSHALL on April 03, 2018, 11:45:38 PM
Quote from: M'Baku on April 03, 2018, 11:12:28 PM
n
Biggie is a bigger artist than both jay and Kanye
he's not going to be bigger than Jay Z once he dies
Trust :kii:
Dying gives the girls an extra BOOST mess
Jay is solidifying himself as the biggest rapper in history and not because of his actual rap career
But this isn't something we'll see until he's dead
:omf: the girls arent thinking clearly it seems
n
Today faggots..
Biggie is bigger than jay z
I?m crying
I get y?all caping for this ugly ape because of Bey
But Biggie is more legendary than him
'preme isnt even a Bey fan and I currently don't care for sis right now. So... nope.
Jay literally has MORE hits than that lazy eyed thing. Like... actual ANTHEMS. This is a fact.
:udontlookok: and sold WAYYYYYYYYYYYY more.
Biggie - 17 million albums sold.
Camel-Z - 50 million albums sold and 75 million singles.
:everythingok:
Quote from: Baph al Mana. on April 04, 2018, 01:20:44 AM
'preme isnt even a Bey fan and I currently don't care for sis right now. So... nope.
Jay literally has MORE hits than that lazy eyed thing. Like... actual ANTHEMS. This is a fact.
:udontlookok: and sold WAYYYYYYYYYYYY more.
ddd
Biggie has nothing but anthems hun
:plzstop:
Jay literally doesn?t have a ?one more chance? or ?big Poppa?
Nor a ?juicy? but DEW
Biggie is more legendary and iconic in hip hop
Jay is richer and a mogul ddd
This reminds me of a the Tyra vs Naomi mess
v
Biggie is a pioneer and that alone puts BB > ROCaFag
Bad boy. They had a series of multiplat artists.
Jay was and will always be the only real star from the roc.
Next caaaaaaaaaase
Quote from: Baph al Mana. on April 04, 2018, 01:22:20 AM
Biggie - 17 million albums sold.
Camel-Z - 50 million albums sold and 75 million singles.
:everythingok:
lets see
One died
And had 2 albums
And the other has been here scratching and kicking.. using his wife for hits, staying relevant and to tour successfully
Bet
Quote from: Sl?iVasion Of Privacy on April 04, 2018, 01:28:17 AM
Bad boy. They had a series of multiplat artists.
Jay was and will always be the only real star from the roc.
Next caaaaaaaaaase
Y?all can be so foolish during debates at times :dead:
Like anyone with an unbiased mind would know that
Bad boy > Roc
And biggies impact and mark in music > Jay z
And this is coming from the boards biggest Jay z fan
He?s my favorite rapper :kii:
Quote from: M'Baku on April 04, 2018, 01:28:50 AM
Quote from: Baph al Mana. on April 04, 2018, 01:22:20 AM
Biggie - 17 million albums sold.
Camel-Z - 50 million albums sold and 75 million singles.
:everythingok:
lets see
One died
And had 2 albums
And the other has been here scratching and kicking.. using his wife for hits, staying relevant and to tour successfully
Bet
So.... if we're talking about today (your words) Jay is bigger. :omgwatshappening:
n
He isn?t a bigger rapper than Biggie today
R u ok?
Lol where is Jay s Diamond album at?
Drake is bigger than Jay z as well right now
:scrumptious: at the end of the day Jay sold more.
Quote from: M'Baku on April 04, 2018, 01:36:15 AM
Drake is bigger than Jay z as well right now
you would be correct and he's bigger than Biggie too.
Quote from: Baph al Mana. on April 04, 2018, 01:40:12 AM
Quote from: M'Baku on April 04, 2018, 01:36:15 AM
Drake is bigger than Jay z as well right now
you would be correct and he's bigger than Biggie too.
he has sold more
Yet his influence and impact doesn?t supersede biggies :dead:
Yet it does supersededs jiggas
Biggie and pac are the most influential hip hop artist of all time :dead:
Doesn?t get more impactful
Quote from: HUGO on April 04, 2018, 12:01:06 AM
n
stupid!
But let me join in
Welcome ?preme
hey king
Still lying about being berth?
Quote from: M'Baku on April 04, 2018, 01:30:13 AM
Y?all can be so foolish during debates at times :dead:
Like anyone with an unbiased mind would know that
Bad boy > Roc
And biggies impact and mark in music > Jay z
And this is coming from the boards biggest Jay z fan
He?s my favorite rapper :kii:
v
Fag ain't nobody seen you stannin for Jay
Tell lies to someone else
N
Been a jigga bitch
V
I just think Jay will be helmed as the greatest Hip hop artist ever eventually
I dunno King
Quote from: brocka4life on April 03, 2018, 09:27:22 PM
Bad Boy pretty much defined an era of music. It was closest thing to a modern day Motown.
!!!
n
Come on now
Quote from: M'Baku on April 03, 2018, 09:27:41 PM
Please
An entity of artists that made a mark >>> 2 artist :dead:
lifnmdmdnfn
Like ... u can fill up an entire ZUNE or ipod up with that roster and their fucking hits :kii:
Jay!
q
Quote from: Baph al Mana. on April 03, 2018, 10:06:25 PM
Quote from: ANIMMAI on April 03, 2018, 10:03:01 PM
Bad Boy really defined an era and was a like a hip hop version of Motown.
(https://i.imgur.com/YMiXQIW.gif)
Mariah?s Honey >>>
All a part of that era, tbh. Lmao! I mean come on. the fuck
King, please.
Quote from: M'Baku on April 04, 2018, 01:42:43 AM
Biggie and pac are the most influential hip hop artist of all time :dead:
Doesn?t get more impactful
people always talk sales but that ain?t always indicative of a high level of impact
Everyone knows it?s Bad Boy :dead:
Obviously BAD BOY.
Jay was really the only one holding Rocafella afloat
Biggest Prime? Bad Boy for sure.
But Roc-Fella was lit too during Amil, Memphis Bleek, Beanie Sigel, Freeway & them
Benjamins, Flava In Ya Ear, One More Chance, Tell Me What You Want, Feel So Good, Soon As I Get Home, Only You...
BadBoy produced anthems. And notice some of these are collaborations, while others were solo hits. Most of Rocafella's most recognizable hits are Jay's and Jay alone.
Ack ?Can I Get A...? is legendary
:flamebroiled:
Quote from: Scott. on April 04, 2018, 12:34:33 AM
Quote from: M'Baku on April 03, 2018, 09:33:52 PM
Most of the bad boy girls are staples in music
n
Biggie
Puff
Faith
Mary by association
Faith
112
Craig Mack
DK
Rick Ross
The Lox
jadakiss
Kim by association
Mase
:dead:
Plea
:dead:
I mean who was successful besides Jay Z and Kanye?
Amil?
Freeway?
Memphis Bleek?
Beanie Sigel?
Teairra Mari?
Young Gunz?
Cam?
Diplomats?
:kii:
:plzstop: :plzstop:
Even SoSo Def produced more successful acts
Quote from: Lazarus on April 04, 2018, 08:24:42 AM
Quote from: Scott. on April 04, 2018, 12:34:33 AM
Quote from: M'Baku on April 03, 2018, 09:33:52 PM
Most of the bad boy girls are staples in music
n
Biggie
Puff
Faith
Mary by association
Faith
112
Craig Mack
DK
Rick Ross
The Lox
jadakiss
Kim by association
Mase
:dead:
Plea
:dead:
I mean who was successful besides Jay Z and Kanye?
Amil?
Freeway?
Memphis Bleek?
Beanie Sigel?
Teairra Mari?
Young Gunz?
Cam?
Diplomats?
:kii:
:plzstop: :plzstop:
Even SoSo Def produced more successful act
I think Disturbing the Peace and RuffRyders has more success than The
Roc Pebble collectively
Nah the only successful acts on DTP were Ludacris and Bobby V.
Quote from: Lazarus on April 04, 2018, 08:34:58 AM
Nah the only successful acts on DTP were Ludacris and Bobby V.
Chingy and Shawna
Hell even Houston
Quote from: HUGO on April 04, 2018, 08:41:03 AM
Quote from: Lazarus on April 04, 2018, 08:34:58 AM
Nah the only successful acts on DTP were Ludacris and Bobby V.
Chingy and Shawna
Hell even Houston
I'll give you Chingy. Shawna doesn't have any certified albums and Houston wasn't signed to DTP. He was strictly signed to Capitol.
Bad Boy
Quote from: Lazarus on April 04, 2018, 08:24:42 AM
Quote from: Scott. on April 04, 2018, 12:34:33 AM
Quote from: M'Baku on April 03, 2018, 09:33:52 PM
Most of the bad boy girls are staples in music
n
Biggie
Puff
Faith
Mary by association
Faith
112
Craig Mack
DK
Rick Ross
The Lox
jadakiss
Kim by association
Mase
:dead:
Plea
:dead:
I mean who was successful besides Jay Z and Kanye?
Amil?
Freeway?
Memphis Bleek?
Beanie Sigel?
Teairra Mari?
Young Gunz?
Cam?
Diplomats?
:kii:
:plzstop: :plzstop:
Even SoSo Def produced more successful acts
:dead:
Quote from: M'Baku on April 04, 2018, 01:18:08 AM
n
Today faggots..
Biggie is bigger than jay z
How can u be wrong all the damn time?
:uhh:
Boom plea faggot
I?m correct
The girls are ganging up on you today it seems King
Lolz
Bad Boy...and it's not close.
Really this comparison isnt fair cause The Roc didn't really attempt to delve into R&B, the way Bad Boy or even...So So Def did.
Dame and Co. was basically satisfied with riding Jay. :dead:
I?m a Voltron Records kinda gorl and Knockout Entertainment >>
:ohwow:
Omg... Remember when Bad Boy used to shut down award shows with all their artists doing one big collaborative effort. Everyone would be so hyped.
And the videos... They had a few videos that became events and would feature several Bad Boy artists.
My favorite "crew" of the 90s would definitely be Missy and Tim with Aaliyah, Ginuwine, Playa, Nicole Wray, Lil' Mo, Magoo, ect. But they didn't have a record label, so for this argument I would have to go with Bad Boy.
Lil Mo was not a part of the supa friends tho
The comparison should be bad boy vs def jam.
They were the main competitors.
Quote from: M'Baku on April 04, 2018, 05:00:47 PM
Lil Mo was not a part of the supa friends tho
Well, she did several records with them, so I don't know. But who else was in their "crew"? Was 702? They worked together a lot.
Supafriendz was def Tim & Mag, Ginuwine, Aaliyah, Missy, Playa and Nicole Wray... they even toured together in 97/98... they had some underground?s like Mocha, Virginia Williams, St Nick but that?s it...
Lil Mo def ain?t Supafriendz b/c that means Gina Thompson and Pepsi Riley are too
Quote from: NATHAN. on April 04, 2018, 08:20:29 PM
(https://www.bet.com/news/music/2011/08/19/amil-wishes-she-could-talk-to-jay-z-and-get-closure/_jcr_content/image.large2x1image.dimg/__1313781305232__1313774788569/081911-music-amil-jay-z.jpg)
OOF.
I just got done listening to "Can I Get a" :plzstop: :loose2when:
You ain't gotta be rich but fuck that
How we gonna get around on your bus pass
ROC kinda stayed with the heat
(https://i.imgur.com/EHJwmWu.gif)
Bad Boy